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You 35 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: will keep Shabaz. 36 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 3: Hello. 37 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 4: We'll take more than you guys to get rid of me. 38 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: Gosh start. 39 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: We've been trying to get rid of you for years 40 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: wife unsuccessfully, and you know him for thirty years. And 41 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: the Indiana Senate, the Great Jim Merritt, Hello, Robert. All right, 42 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: so the big well, there are a couple of big stories. 43 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: We start. We've been at this, Merrit, What have we 44 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: been at this for nine years? 45 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 4: Now? 46 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: We've been started with us and then you got replaced 47 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: because you ran for mayor. Duel took over and you 48 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: got replaced because you ran for mayor. And now it's 49 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: like we're all here together. But in the the nine years, 50 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: whether it was with you Abduel or you Jim Merritt, 51 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: every year's session ends and then we're. 52 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: Like, well what will we talk about on this program? 53 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 4: And every year the press one with Press two probably 54 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 4: above Press three. 55 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: Every year it seems like the out of session stuff 56 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: is more entertaining than the in session stuff. And the 57 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: whole premise of this program was sortady to cover things 58 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: that were going on at. 59 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: The State House. 60 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: So, uh, the big announcement came out, what this was Monday? 61 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: Right? 62 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: This came out that bo Bai, son of former Indiana 63 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: governor and Senator Evan By, is going to run for 64 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: Secretary of State. Presumably and we'll get to this in 65 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: a minute. It'll be against Diego Morales, the current incumbent. 66 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: Let's start with you, Jim Merritt, you knew Evan By. 67 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 2: I did what a famous man once said, They said, 68 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: I pull that microphone up there just a little bit. 69 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: Was there a famous I knew John Kennedy? And you're 70 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: you're no, no, no, Evan By. 71 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 5: And one thing in the intro that you didn't you 72 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 5: didn't talk about is, uh, we were worried. I don't 73 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 5: know about worried, but we were. We were thinking about, 74 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 5: this is a non election year. Yeah, and so there 75 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 5: wasn't really going to be anything to talk about. Yeah, 76 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 5: and uh that it was completely untrue. And uh, every 77 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 5: riveting Statehouse happenings. 78 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: Has been riveting, award winning. Yes, I don't know what 79 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: award we want. Okay. 80 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: So, so Evan By's son, Bo Bye, because he's going 81 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: to run for Secretary of State. That's the office that 82 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: Evan By started his political career at in the mid 83 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: nineteen eighties. You served in the General Assembly for both 84 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: terms of Evan Bye's governorship. Does the Evan By. Let's 85 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: face it, he's running in large part on the Evan 86 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: By name. If his name were Bo Smith, you know, 87 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: very nice young guy, seems like distinguished military service, you know, 88 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: clerk just wrapped up a clerk clerkship is that what 89 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: they call it for the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals. 90 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: Very distinguished, you know, young life he's had. But if 91 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: his name were Bo Smith, we wouldn't be talking about 92 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: him for Bo Baird. Well, what is with these guys, right, 93 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: Let's let's start with that. If he does the Evan 94 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: by name still have enough juice to make a difference 95 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: in the state. 96 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 5: Well, to go back in history, Evan Bye came to 97 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 5: Indiana and ran for Secretary of State. Gordon Denell, who 98 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 5: was the state chairman of the Republican Party the other 99 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 5: time at that time, was quite concerned about Evan Bye 100 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 5: because his father, Birch Bye, was a US Senator and 101 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 5: had the rich name at that time, and so Gordon Darnell, 102 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 5: the state chairman of the Republican Party. 103 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 4: A residency challenge. 104 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 5: Yes he did. But he also went out and recruited 105 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 5: Otis Bowen. Doc Bowen, who was the most famous and 106 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 5: beloved Republican at the time, got Rob Bowen, his son, 107 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 5: to run for Secretary of State. 108 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: This show is a gym. Okay, well, okay, so let's 109 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: go back and go back to that. What's old is 110 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: new again? Right exactly. 111 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: So Evan Bye's son or Evan Bye is the son 112 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: of Birch By, famous Indiana senator defeated by Dan Quail 113 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: and the Reagan Revolution of the the. 114 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 5: Nineteen eight election. 115 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: Yes, and then so they brought Evan By in to 116 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: run for daving the Democrats for secretary of state. And 117 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: somebody said you don't live here. 118 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 5: Right, And Evan By was actually Birch Bye's campaign manager. 119 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 5: So Evan Bye has been in falling politics. He and 120 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 5: I are about the same age. He's a couple of 121 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 5: years old. He's Joe Hoggs. It's age he was at 122 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 5: IU right before I was, right down on the street 123 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 5: from where Joe and I lived. And and so this 124 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 5: is I've watched this for a long time now. And 125 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 5: and yes, Evan By his residency was questioned. 126 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 4: He actually became the by rule. 127 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 5: Yes. 128 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 4: And because that the rule was, I said, didn't live here, 129 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 4: didn't have residency, so we couldn't run for the for 130 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 4: the for governor or secretary of state. But the what 131 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 4: the court decide was is sort of where do you 132 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 4: lay your where do you intend to lay your head 133 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 4: at night? 134 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: That hat? 135 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 4: Where you lay your head? Where do you intend to 136 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: lay your head. 137 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 5: And Rob Bowen was recruited to run against him for 138 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 5: secretary of State, and uh and and and Rob Bowen 139 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 5: ends up being a distinguished judge up in northern Indiana Breemen, 140 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 5: where where Otis was from. Uh, but really did not 141 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 5: want to run for secretary of state. You could just 142 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 5: see in all his body language he was just doing 143 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 5: it for his dad and for the party and for 144 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 5: Gordon Urnell and so uh, it's it's a rich, rich history. 145 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 5: But Evan Bye goes on to to win the secretary 146 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 5: of State's office and we're seeing Washington repeat Grinson. 147 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: Okay, so Indiana was a much more balanced state politically 148 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: than it is today. I mean it was probably it 149 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: was a sort of a Pickham state back then. 150 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: Right. 151 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 5: Well, no, you know, I don't know about that. 152 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 4: I was saying Indiana was mixed because the only time 153 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 4: because until Barack Obama won in two thousand and eight, 154 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 4: the only time Democrats had won carried the presidency and 155 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 4: it was nineteen sixty four. 156 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: Sure, but I'm saying, but also. 157 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was republican state presidential, but y had no 158 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: Democrat US senator, democratic governor, right, but they. 159 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 5: Were if you look at everything from birch By, Evan 160 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 5: byde frank O Bannon to Joe Kernin those boys would 161 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 5: be Republicans today. 162 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 4: They would be North side Indianapolis Republicans today. 163 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 164 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,239 Speaker 5: So the left has really taken over the Democrat Party. 165 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 166 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: Right, So this comes to my point, which is nothing 167 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: is the same as it was forty years ago. And 168 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: Evin by first one, it's not even the same thirty 169 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: years ago when exactly when he was the governor. It's 170 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: not even the same twenty years ago when he was 171 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: a Senator from Indiana. So does let's start with that. 172 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: Does the Evan by name still have enough juice or 173 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: any juice for that matter, in our state to help 174 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: bow Bye pull off? 175 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,679 Speaker 4: I mean I would say, I would say yes, because 176 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 4: here's where Evan Bye, Here's where the by name comes 177 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 4: in handy, I mean obviously, Yeah, the new voters, younger voters, 178 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 4: you can always appeal to appeal to them. What Evan 179 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 4: Bye brings to the Democrats is a name, institutional gravitas, 180 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 4: and more importantly two million dollars to start up in 181 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 4: the bank. It all comes back to money, money and 182 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 4: trust me money and and also what Democrats actually thinking, hey, 183 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 4: we got a chance of winning. This is It brings 184 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 4: energy and enthusiasm and and it brings the ground game 185 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 4: because think about it, who is first buyer who bo 186 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 4: by reading against Diego Morales, the guy who's got a 187 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 4: rap sheet politically speaking, you know, as long as a 188 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 4: as long as the Chinese phone book. 189 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's go there. He's running for this office 190 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 2: because it's Diego Morales. Diego Morales is probably the one 191 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: Republican statewide who you would say he's beatable because his 192 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: behavior is so egregious. That's why he's That's why he's he's. 193 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 5: Not run against Dan Elliott or at least in the 194 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 5: saulid So you're. 195 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 4: Correct, right, I mean he kicked this off. And by 196 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 4: the way, too, this isn't Destiny Wells four years ago. 197 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 4: There's a much more longer list of grievances. Sure that 198 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 4: Diego has done since? 199 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,599 Speaker 5: No, well, not only that, Bobi is going to be 200 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 5: a better candidate. Oh yeah, yeah, there's no question about it. 201 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: And is he. 202 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So let me ask you this because when football 203 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: started this year, a lot of people hearing this podcast. 204 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: No I do a sports betting podcast with Jason Hammer 205 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: from the Hammer Nigel Show called the Degenerates next. 206 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 4: Door and it's adequately it's perfect. Yes, Uh, I was 207 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 4: gonna Degenerous Upstairs book. 208 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 2: When the season started, the first game of the year 209 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 2: was Texas against Ohio State, right, and arch Manning is 210 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: the quarterback for Texas, and everybody was arch Manning this 211 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: and arch Manning that. And I said in our podcast, 212 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 2: I said, what if Arch Manning isn't very good? And 213 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: everybody's like, wow, what a bad I said, well, he's 214 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: never really I mean, he's played some games in college 215 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: against like directional schools, and he's had some you know, 216 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: mop up time. And I said, what if he's not 217 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: very good, we just assume because his name is Manning 218 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: and he was good in high school, he's gonna be 219 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: good in college. And it turns out thus far this 220 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 2: year arch Manning not all that good. What if bo 221 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 2: Bay isn't very good as a candidate, Well, I think 222 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: he's gonna have quite a campaign around him. And I 223 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: think I think, uh, contrary to the previous candidate, that 224 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: he they're going to handle this campaign incredibly different than 225 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: what Destiny did. 226 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: Oh. 227 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: I don't think there's no doubt he's gonna be a 228 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: million times better than her. But that's like saying you're 229 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: gonna be better than the Colorado Rockies. 230 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 5: This is still a red Republican state. And also it's 231 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 5: gonna be a big hill to climb. 232 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 4: And keep in mind too, the person who's handling communications 233 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 4: for bow Bye is the same person who handled communications 234 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 4: for Joe Donnelly during the Richard Murdoch disaster years ago. 235 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 4: So once again was old I'll meet the new bosses 236 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 4: same as the old. 237 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: Boston's Okay, so we all agree he's running for Secretary 238 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: of State because Diego is. So if there was ever 239 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 2: gonna be a Republican who's beatable, it's Diego because of the. 240 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: As you I think are law. 241 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: There's a laundry list of things, pick them, and you 242 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: can just run one ad after another. 243 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 4: When Diego Moreles said, uh, he'd be happy to show 244 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 4: Bobye around all ninety two counties, Like he did not 245 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 4: say ninety two counties, mister I did mister bought a 246 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 4: bought a super suv. Yeah, so you can sit on 247 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 4: the phone book and drive around Indiana and like really seriously. 248 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, there's no way that Bob I would run 249 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 5: against a last Nashalla the comptroller or the treasure state 250 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 5: Treasurer Daniel Elliott. They've they've had great you know, they've 251 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 5: done well in their offices and uh uh and and 252 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 5: as well as you know, bow bye Secretary State. I 253 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 5: mean there's a rhythm to it. And uh I still 254 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 5: think that Indiana will be a Republican state. 255 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: Okay, So I want to you're jumping the gun. You're 256 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: jumping the gun I usually do. Really, it's not a template. 257 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: Should I should really just just mess us up. We 258 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: should not just sit down and start talking. Let's let's 259 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: pivot real quick on this because before we we'll come 260 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: back to bo by. Okay, But there is the reality 261 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: is there is a convention for the Republicans. It'll be 262 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: held in June, June of next year. And David Shelton, 263 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: who I think we out all agree, is actually a 264 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: very qualified individual to be the Secretary of state. Knox 265 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: County clerk has done a fine job there, very very 266 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 2: respected and in terms of elections, et cetera, like. 267 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 5: Its second time around. 268 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: But he's also as boring as that wall behind you guys. 269 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 2: And now that Evan Buy's son with all that money 270 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: and infrastructure, and everything is in the race. 271 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: Is a is a threat? Is in the race and 272 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 3: is a threat. 273 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: Do Republicans have to pause and go yep, we we 274 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: can't ye because I think David Shelton would do just 275 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: fine against bob bike because it takes away all the stuff. 276 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: It just becomes a Republican versus Democrat. Do Republicans have 277 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: to take a long look and go time for us 278 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: to cut the crape bounce this dude at convention. 279 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 4: If Republicans have an ounce of common sense, they look, okay, 280 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 4: we can have Dave Shelton not toown of clerk boring, 281 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 4: but this but this year boring is actually probably kind 282 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 4: of a good sure or itsus Diego Morales who's got 283 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 4: this laundry list of issues' is just basically a walking 284 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: campaign at every time he opens his mouth. Now you 285 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 4: have some convintion. I'igets who are who are Diego fans 286 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 4: or Diego homeboy fanboys. They will they won't change a thing. 287 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 4: But I do think though, and it also depends on 288 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 4: how many Republicans actually getting the race or Secretary of State, 289 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 4: because if it if it's three or more, I would 290 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 4: argue that what unless Diego gets a clear majority on 291 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 4: that first bow route. That is his ceiling, because it's 292 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 4: nobody's gonna pivot to him. Right, Well, welcome to the 293 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 4: twenty twenty six campaign. And uh, and and I've said 294 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: it so many times this this Republican convention. These delegates 295 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 4: are ultra conservative. And and Diego would never win a primary, 296 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 4: nor would a rookiet it, nor would uh And I 297 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 4: told the Lieutenant Government to his face he wouldn't either. 298 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 4: And so these are children of the convention. Diego, if 299 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 4: you get out of the bubble of the fifteen counties 300 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 4: that listen to us and everybody else on streaming, you're 301 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 4: selling yourself short, all right. Everybody listens to us from 302 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 4: around the state, either radio or by streaming. And and 303 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 4: I truly believe that if you go to a convention, 304 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 4: or excuse me, to a Lincoln Day dinner, sometimes it's 305 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 4: somewhere in lagrange. 306 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 5: Uh. These three hang the moon. They they are very 307 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 5: popular outside of our listening. 308 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 4: You see. But see, But here's the thing, though. Popularity 309 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 4: is one thing. You may like the guy, but once again, 310 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 4: this is where your logic has to kick in. And 311 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 4: your if your logic says, who am i gonna run 312 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 4: against uh bow Bye. I'm gonna run Dave Sheldon, who's 313 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 4: boring but has a clean record, clean sweep. I'm gonna run. 314 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna run Diego Morales. 315 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: But I think what he's saying of duel is they So. 316 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: I did an interview with w j OB a couple 317 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: of weeks ago, which is. 318 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 5: There's somebody there's a radio station, very. 319 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: Well known, prominent radio station in the region. 320 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 4: Great it was also his old eighties r and have 321 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 4: a job if want to people men of nothing going 322 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 4: on but the rent. 323 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: So w job. 324 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 2: It's a prominent talk station in the in the region. 325 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: And that was on their morning show, and they're they're 326 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: big fans of what we do down here. 327 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: They follow what we do. And they said the same thing. 328 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: They said, the problem, the problem with all the stuff 329 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: you're laying And they asked about you know, Micah and 330 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: Diego and all of this stuff, and they said, nobody 331 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: knows about any of this up here because they don't 332 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: hear you. And we know we talk about it a 333 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: little bit, but other than that, yeah, it's it's out 334 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: of the side of nobody knew who Jamie Nole was 335 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: either well that's I think that's the problem is if 336 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: you're Shelton, you got to grow a pair and you 337 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: got to start because he put out this big press 338 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: release when Bobi entered the racing. 339 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 3: You need to be doing that to Diego. 340 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: If you don't do that to Diego, there's going to 341 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: be no Shelton v Buy. You're focusing on the wrong 342 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: person right now. 343 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 5: There's no question that that's the truth. And and we 344 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 5: we we think we see everything just down the market 345 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 5: street either way from us. And and uh, that's why 346 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 5: Jennifer Ruth Green can run for Congress because this is 347 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 5: the bubble. Nobody really hears anything that goes on in Indianapolis. 348 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 5: And Hamlin hamon him uh Hamelin Indiana. And so I 349 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 5: think that if if David Shelton has a chance at 350 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 5: the at the UH at the convention, he's got to 351 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 5: go delegate by delegate and and and it goes back. 352 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: You got brings some smoke on Diego. 353 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 5: Right, But also with Rob Bowen, who was an outstanding 354 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 5: young man, but Vanilla had no chance against Evan Bye. 355 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 5: And it's and David Shelt, I think Bobi has a 356 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 5: really good chance to run UH for you know, election 357 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 5: because of if if if David David Shelton gets the 358 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 5: nomination in the convention, bo By uh has an outstanding 359 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 5: chance of becoming Do. 360 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: You think he can beat at a generic He could 361 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 2: be a generic Republican. 362 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 5: Well, it comes back to money and he will have 363 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 5: plenty of it. 364 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 4: And also keep in mind too, uh for those Dave 365 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 4: Shelton supporters, Let's say they lose at the convention, do 366 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 4: they go vote for Diego or do It's like, nope, 367 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 4: skip this, I'm not voting for this guy. Either stay 368 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 4: home or go vote for this. 369 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: Is what was fascinating to me about the bow By 370 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 2: announcement was that these people who have ignored one egregious behavior, 371 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: one bad headline after another from Diego Morales about his 372 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 2: behavior either as an elected official or trying to become 373 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,959 Speaker 2: an elected official and not a peep, and they just 374 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 2: start in with the he doesn't live here, he residency 375 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 2: voter history. 376 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 4: Like we're talking about Didaga Morales. 377 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: It's okay, So where the guy you know lives or 378 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: voted or whatever is the is your biggest thing. And 379 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: this this guy over here has been doing all of 380 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: this stuff as an elected official and not a peep. 381 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 3: But it really does show who some of these people are. 382 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 4: Well, it shows that they're willing to put aside their differences, 383 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 4: put aside through issues with Diego Morales because they can 384 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 4: not to let a Democrat have this seat. In a nutshell, 385 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 4: that's what because if you think about it too, I 386 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 4: want to say, Jim in the in the election boards. 387 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 4: Election boards are determined by the by the number of 388 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 4: votes that the Secretary of State candidate got. 389 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 5: Yes, election boards meaning who's in charge exact inspector. 390 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, who's in charge. So if bow By wins that 391 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 4: Chelsel changes a whole lot of a county election boards 392 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 4: situation because the top vote get to the top voteting 393 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 4: Secretary of States raised in the county, in the county. 394 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 4: That's how the election board is determined. 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The buy 438 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 2: machine will figure out and tell everyone who paid for India. 439 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 5: There's gonna be a there's a research probably already completed 440 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 5: on that. 441 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: I mean you're you're talking. 442 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm so excited about this because I just 443 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: I want to get rid of Diego because I think 444 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: his behavior is so egregious. But I gotta admit I 445 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: kind of want a democrat in that office because they 446 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: will open up the doors of that office and they 447 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: will show all of the stuff that's been going on 448 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: since Diego Morales has been Secretary of State. And I 449 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: think they'll have the ability on some level to show 450 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 2: which Republicans knew what, who was complicit in it, who 451 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 2: did nothing. I think the revelation of the cabal, as 452 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 2: I call it, would be on full display. And I 453 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: kinda I kind of want a democrat in there. 454 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 5: Well, let let's talk about it. There's two separate things 455 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 5: you're talking about. 456 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 3: That make me a horrible person. 457 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,719 Speaker 5: Well, I don't know. 458 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 4: That doesn't make it. 459 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 5: We have to we have to separate what you're talking about. 460 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 5: The office runs like a top. What you're talking about 461 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 5: is Diego world. Ye, Diego political world is you're opening 462 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 5: up because secretary of State's office and everything I have 463 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 5: as a businessman, everything that I've worked with that office 464 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 5: and and and I've been stepped away five years ago. 465 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 5: But from every everything we've seen, Uh, the Secretary of 466 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 5: State's office as a whole has run very very well. 467 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 5: What you're talking about is Diego world and with that 468 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 5: political But there's people in that office. 469 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the rank and file people, right, 470 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the tippy top people. 471 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 5: Okay, I think you need the clarity there. 472 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: Well, but they're in the office. Yes, I don't think 473 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: you can separate that. Some of these people are working 474 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: in the office. And I think a lot of Republicans 475 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 2: who are in that State House know exactly what's what 476 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 2: that looks. That office is being used as a twenty 477 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: four to seven campaign machine. That's all he does is 478 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: campaign on taxpayer time and taxpayer money. That's all he does. 479 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: Everybody knows what he is. Everybody knows how he's used 480 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: the office, the no bid contracts, you know, the contracts 481 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 2: with his friends. Everybody knows what's going on there, and 482 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: nobody does anything about it. And so I want to 483 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 2: know who knew what and didn't do anything. And I 484 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 2: think if you have a Democrat in there, you get 485 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 2: access to a lot of stuff. 486 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 4: And here's the other other interesting part of all this too, 487 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 4: which is, first of all, I like divided government because 488 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 4: nobody has monopoly on good ideas or stupidity. Yeah, that's 489 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 4: kind of point point number one, point number two if 490 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 4: you look at like I said, I did a rundown 491 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 4: breakdown of you know, sort of pre bow Bye, sort 492 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 4: of post bow buyeh in the race, and bow Bay 493 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 4: has the best shot of winning and beating Diego Morauth 494 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 4: And also, don't forget the libertarian Liberties will pull off 495 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 4: three to five percent of the vote anyway, do you. 496 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: Think, Okay, let's real quick touch on that, because Jeff 497 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: Moore was about the best kiddid the Libertarians were gonna 498 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: possibly run. Uh, he's coming off the success of rain Water. 499 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 2: You're right, Diego has a longer list of grievances now 500 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 2: than he did the last time, but he had a 501 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 2: lot of people kind of knew what he was. Jeff 502 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 2: Moore got five and half percent. How do you think 503 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: Lori Shillings, if she's the nominee, can get three percent? 504 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 4: Like if you're I think I think she has three 505 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 4: to five percent for the Like I said, once again, no, 506 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 4: twenty twenty six is not twenty twenty two. You have 507 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 4: you've had all these area of grievances. You know, Diego's 508 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 4: basically a Festivus episode from Seinfeld. All these areas of 509 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 4: political grievances, you know, between the last time he ran 510 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 4: in this time, which kind of makes it. And also, 511 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 4: please keep in mind you've got a lot of Republicans 512 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 4: pically on the donut, kind of like what the hell 513 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 4: are we doing here with this guy? 514 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: Well, but but the Libertarians better wake up because isn't 515 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 2: the bar two percent? Because the Secretary of State's race 516 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 2: is the bar for ballot access and if they screw around, 517 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: and let's face it, Rainwater was a dumpster fire this pastime, 518 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: and the Libertarians have done nothing to capitalize on that 519 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 2: success he had in twenty twenty. They threw it all away. 520 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: They haven't organized, they haven't fundrais, they haven't done anything. 521 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 2: They could screw up and not get the two percent 522 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: and lose the ballot access. I'm not saying it's going 523 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 2: to happen. I'm saying I think it's fair to point 524 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 2: that out. But I think the odds that happened are 525 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: a lot less. I think they're probably like five to 526 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 2: seven percent. Like I said, with Diego Morales on the ticket, 527 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: with all the stuff that's happened since the last election. 528 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think when you when you're talking 529 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 5: about Diego Morales and and all everything, all the baggage 530 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 5: that he brings to the to the table, you kind 531 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 5: of wonder if the voter just kind of you know, 532 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 5: it's a pox on the all their houses. Are they 533 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 5: going to vote in twenty twenty six? 534 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 3: Uh? 535 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 5: You know in twenty twenty eight, everybody will vote. But 536 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 5: in off election, you know, people's interests in their trusts, 537 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 5: in their in their leaders has has declined so much. 538 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 5: You just kind of wonder if if people take a 539 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 5: break and I'll see in twenty eight. 540 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 4: And by the way, Jimmy, you realize what happened twenty 541 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 4: years ago in the sixth election when Mitch Daniels had 542 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 4: his first couple years in office, who would up taken 543 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 4: over in twenty six and twenty eight. Yes, yeah, we've 544 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 4: the Democrats took back the Indiana House back in a 545 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 4: thousand and they. 546 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 2: Got they gotta and we're running our time here because 547 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: I want to ask you guys something here before we 548 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 2: get But Democrats got to start nominating normal people to 549 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 2: run for office and have normal positions everywhere, like you can't. 550 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 3: You can't. 551 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 4: You gotta run people meet the district. 552 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't have these crazy people and sink the 553 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: top of the ticket with lunatics. And that's gonna be 554 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 2: challenged with them. All right, we got about thirty seconds left. 555 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you both two questions to wrap up 556 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: our show. One, will it be bo Bie against Diego 557 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: Morales or David Shelton? And based on that answer, who 558 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: do you think will be the Secretary of State in 559 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven? 560 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 4: I think by versus Morales and bye went. 561 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 5: Okay, I think by versus Morales and Moralesman's. 562 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 3: Well, very good. 563 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: But today we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna time stamp 564 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: this and I'm sure we'll have a lot of conversation 565 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: about it over the next several uh, well obviously next 566 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: year basically. 567 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 3: And uh. 568 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: In the meantime, fabulous job by both of you, and 569 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 2: no notes. 570 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm doctor Jim Dalton, President and CEO of Daymar. 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