1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Why From Baull Hartbyer and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 3: We're stay about the Democrat Party when they have a 4 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 3: thirty three percent favorability rating on average in recent months, 5 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 3: and they're willing to shut down the government over our healthcare. 6 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 4: They're shutting it down. 7 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 5: We're not shutting it down. 8 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 6: We don't want it to shut down because we have 9 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 6: the greatest period of time ever. I tell you, we 10 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 6: have seventeen trillion dollars being invested. So the last person 11 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 6: that wants to shut down is us. 12 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 4: Now. 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 6: With that being said, we can do things during the 14 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 6: shutdown that are irreversible, that are bad for them and 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 6: irreversible by them, like cutting vast numbers of people out, 16 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 6: cutting things that they like, cutting. 17 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 4: Programs that they like. And you know, you all know 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 4: Russell though. 19 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 6: He's become very popular recently because he can trim the 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 6: budget to a level that you couldn't do any other way. 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 6: So they're taking a risk by having a shutdown because 22 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 6: because of the shutdown, we can do things medically and 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 6: other ways, including benefits. We can cut large numbers of people. 24 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 6: We don't want to do that, but we don't want fraud, waste, 25 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 6: and abuse. 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 4: And you know we're cutting that. 27 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 6: But they want to have illegal aliens come into our 28 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 6: country and get massive health care at the court to 29 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 6: everybody else, and we don't have it. And that's I 30 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 6: would say the number one reason that they want to 31 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 6: strike is to get illegal immigrants health care. And you 32 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 6: know Gavin Newsom wants that too in California and it's 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 6: destroying California. 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: We discussed this earlier that if the Democrats want to 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: shut it down, they can. 36 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: But they're the ones who lose out. 37 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: They're the ones who are going to lose out on 38 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: programs and another one who are going to lose out 39 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: on people because you can fire all these people, which 40 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: they've already been preparing for. And then if when the 41 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: shutdown's done, you want to hire people back, you don't 42 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: hire those people. 43 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: You hire your people. You can remake the government that way. 44 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: And I want to be on the record I want 45 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: the people to stay fired. I want to do more 46 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: with much much much, much much much less. And then 47 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: I want to reduce a good I don't know, let's 48 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: just call it eight hundred and forty two programs. You 49 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: say to me, Tony, do you have a list of 50 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: eight hundred and forty two programs, and I'll say to you, 51 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: not yet, but if you give me thirty days, I'll 52 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: find you eight hundred and forty two programs that have 53 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: no business being in existence. Again, I will tell you 54 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: doge is a good idea. We shouldn't stop because not 55 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: everything went perfect. We should keep going because we don't 56 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: have an option. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to 57 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: be with You find everything at Tony katz dot com, 58 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: live streaming, on the youtubees Tony kats or the. 59 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 4: Twitter x Tony Kats. 60 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: You can find me there eight three three four six 61 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: eight eight six six 's nine agree, disagree, Just be 62 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: decent and I'll have the conversation eight three to three, 63 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: got Tony. That's how you get to be a part 64 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: of the show again. I will tell you it comes, 65 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't come. Whatever happens happens on My advice is 66 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: to have yourself a drink, have a beverage. If you 67 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: need any beverage ideas, I'm more than happy to help. 68 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: What's the best bourbon to drink during a shutdown? I'll 69 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: put that video out later. I will I will make 70 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: that I will make that work. And one of the 71 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: other things that took place today that was President Trump's 72 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: speaking at this press conference about the lowering of insurance costs, 73 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: announcing that there's a deal with Pfizer for a lowering 74 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: of prescription drug prices, saying, quote, this is a result 75 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: of the most favorite nation drug pricing order that we 76 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: established earlier this year. Now we're going to be paying 77 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: whatever the lowest price is. And President Trump said prices 78 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: would come down immediately. I not a fan of this, 79 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: and the idea of forced price reductions very much a 80 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: non American thing to do. The argument would come back 81 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: to me that we are seeing an abuse of the 82 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: system that increased costs for Americans. I would say to you, 83 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: to those people who make that argument, I would say, Okay, 84 00:04:54,960 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: then go about right now changing that system. 85 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 4: I'm in. 86 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: Let us change the regulatory environment, let us change other 87 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: environments that allow for any level of abuses. Let's make 88 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: those changes through legislation right now. 89 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 4: Let's go and let us out. 90 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: Those people who somehow think that what we have going 91 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: on right now is just fine. Wouldn't this be something 92 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: that could be bipartisan in nature, that Republicans conservatives could 93 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: get the win on for leading the. 94 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 4: Charge, and all of us be better off. 95 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: The idea that I'm going to buy force reduce prices. 96 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not what presidents do. It's not what we do. 97 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: If you want this to be legislative regulatory, I'm all 98 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: in ten thousand percent in. People are gonna like the 99 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: lower costs. The question will be at what CA do 100 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: the lower costs come on some drugs. I got to 101 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: assume their drug company can absolutely handle the lower costs 102 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: and be like, all right, we had a good run. 103 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: We made our money while we could. Now we'll just 104 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: make this money. And then two years from now when 105 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: they're out of supply, they won't even offer up that 106 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: drug anymore. What happened to that moment? Not enough meat 107 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: on the bone. It's not worth the time. So you 108 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: know what they say, Hey, you know we're done here. 109 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: You know we don't we don't do that drug anymore. Yeah, 110 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: we just found that we couldn't really produce it the. 111 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 4: Way we would like to. 112 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: Oh, but wait to see our new drug that you 113 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: sniff it and you lose weight, you know, smithhodium, I don't. 114 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 4: I don't know what they're gonna call. Well, they call it. Well, 115 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 4: if you sniff it and you lose weight, I guess 116 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 4: it would just be called Biden. 117 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: And so yeah, and so we've got this great new 118 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: drug called Biden. And even Joe Biden has said, of 119 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: the drug, where am I? And so that's what we're 120 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: going to sell. And No, this drug over here that 121 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 1: everybody's using, we don't make any money on it anymore. 122 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: So we don't you that one. But this Biden sniff drug, 123 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: Oh that's the future. Only eight hundred and forty two 124 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: dollars a pill. And as a reminder of people, say 125 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: it only costs you three cents to make the drug. 126 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: No, no, it cost three cents for the second pill. 127 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: It costs forty two billion dollars for the first pill, 128 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: or whatever it is the investments actually took. Let's not 129 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: forget that. By the way, very very funny chat room 130 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: sniff and lose weight was big in the eighties. That 131 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, that is a cocaine joke. Try try 132 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: and get that elsewhere, right. 133 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 4: Only here, only here. 134 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: So that was Trump's a big announcement today. But I 135 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: thought one of the the bigger stories was almost a 136 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: moment of self effacing from the president when he talked 137 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: in front of the General's an animal. He shut up after 138 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: and spoke after the Secretary of War Pete Hegstt, spoke 139 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: today and I will share that with you in full. 140 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: If you haven't heard it, I have the whole speech 141 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: that's coming. He talks about ending the Ukraine war. Listen, 142 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: the easiest one of them all is Putin. I said 143 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: number one, it's a. 144 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 5: War that would have never happened if I were president 145 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 5: of the election weren't rigged, and if I were president, 146 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 5: that war would have never happened, not even a little chance. 147 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 5: And it didn't happen for four years. But I knew 148 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 5: Putin very well, and I thought that would be easy 149 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 5: because I know him so well well. That would turned 150 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 5: out to be the hardest of them. And we had 151 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 5: some that were not settlable, and they all got settled. 152 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 5: So if this works out that we did yesterday with 153 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 5: the Middle East, then that's that's more than a war. 154 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 5: That's lots of wars that's all combined. That's a lot 155 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 5: of wars. Many of you were over there in many 156 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 5: different capacities, in many different countries that Doways say, that's 157 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 5: a big that's a big. 158 00:08:59,480 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 4: Part of the. 159 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: People are like, Trump sounds ridiculous, he sounds mental. 160 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 4: We need to. 161 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: Invote, Eric Swalwell, We need to invoke the twenty fifth 162 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: Amendment you had from January twentieth, twenty twenty one to 163 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: January twentieth, twenty twenty five. 164 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 4: To do just that, Eric Swalwell. 165 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: But I guess when you're so busy banging a Chinese spy, 166 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: you don't have time to recognize that the then president 167 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: of the United States wasn't in his right mind. But 168 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: Trump is talking exactly the way Trump does, and all 169 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: of a sudden it's an issue. 170 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 4: It's exactly the way the man talks. 171 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: But I thought it was interesting that he made this 172 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: statement that I thought this was gonna be easy. I 173 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: thought this was gonna be easy. But it has not 174 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: been easy. No, no, it has not. Meanwhile, Ukraine is 175 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: going so in full on. They have now hit There 176 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: was a major drone strike from the Russians against the 177 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: Ukrainians and now Ukraine has engaged a Mitchell strike against 178 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: a thermal power plant in a place called Belgarod, and 179 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: that has put parts of Russia into darkness. And so 180 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: Ukraine has been very aggressive in going after power, going 181 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: after oil, going after refineries, going after pipelines, and. 182 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 4: Now thermal power. 183 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: This thermal station supplies for the town of Belgarod a 184 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: third of the city's heating and electricity. And so there's 185 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: thirty five thousand people in the city. So they kind 186 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: of blacked out the city. And you say, well, listen, 187 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: it's not Moscow. 188 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 4: You're right. 189 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: But it does show the ability to engage reach and 190 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: pinpoint and precision, and it does show a willingness from 191 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: Ukraine to say, look, we're done caring. The Presidential Office 192 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: Ukraine's presidential office has said Russia has made blackouts and 193 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: terror part of its worst strategy. Now it is facing 194 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: the same price. We've got the weaponry to do it. 195 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: We have US weapons, we're gonna be getting from NATO 196 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: more and more, all because you've Vladimir Putin decided to 197 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: insult Trump, so more stuff is becoming available to us. 198 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 4: This is what we're doing. 199 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: By the way, the town, forgive me, he doesn't have 200 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: thirty five thousand people. It's see hundred and fifty thousand 201 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: people known as a logistical hub for the war effort. 202 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: Ukrainians are not done, not by any stretch of the imagination. 203 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: They're not anywhere close to done with trying to fight back. 204 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: But when it comes to just a sheaer amount of people, 205 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: they can't keep up. They would need more attacks like this. 206 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: That more discombobulate of the Russians, could lead to more. 207 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 4: People saying I'm not going to go fight. 208 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: To the extent that that's actually happening or could happen, 209 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: they still need a way out, so, by the way, 210 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: do the Russians. But the Russians haven't stated that they 211 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: want out. They had a chance, they met with Trump 212 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: and then nothing came of it. So now here we 213 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: are with nat I'm more than happy to be supportive 214 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: of Ukraine. 215 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 4: Europe thrilled to be a supportive of Ukraine. 216 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: Things being bought, but from the United States, US selling hardware. 217 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 4: What if I told you everyone's kind of. 218 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: Happy with this result, which is insane because we should 219 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: want this to be over. 220 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 4: But if it can't be over, mess up. 221 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: The Russians make some cash, don't look at me, that's 222 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: Putin's fault. Much more to get to this is Tony 223 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: Katz today. 224 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 7: Dimamama, that's bad bunny, And I'm not familiar with his music. 225 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: What I have learned about him since finding out he 226 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: would be the halftime show for the Super Bowl is 227 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: that he doesn't like Trump, doesn't like Ice, and doesn't 228 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:47,479 Speaker 1: have any songs in English. 229 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 4: So you know, perfect pick, NFL. The only way you 230 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 4: could have done more is if you had picked rothe O'donnald. 231 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: Truly truly the case, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, guys, 232 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: good to be here, Good to be with you. 233 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: There's a lot. 234 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: About why this pick, and does this involve the fact 235 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: that Jay Z works with the NFL through his company 236 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: and they decide what the halftime act is? Is this 237 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: a conversation about the fact that the NFL is trying 238 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: to get more and more international and the games in 239 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: Ireland and the games in the UK, games in Germany, 240 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: games in Mexico, and they're trying to build and so 241 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: they wanted somebody with more of an international flair because 242 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: you know, that's where the money is. They don't care 243 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: about the US fan. They care about the money. The 244 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: Shield is everything, and the Shield does not care about 245 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: whether or not you're watching. They figure most of you 246 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: just complained, but you watch anyway, which, as we all know, 247 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: is the truth. So as for the pick for this guy, 248 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. People will watch the Super Bowl halftime 249 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: show or they won't. I think there are plenty of 250 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: people who look to Kendrick Lamar and said, what the 251 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: heck does this halftime show? And then got it explained 252 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: to them that oh, there was something going on here. 253 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: There's a story going on here without this part of 254 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: the set lurked and that was that Serena Williams and 255 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: what is going on here? A lot of people learned 256 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: what a cripwalk is and there was a lot of 257 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: education that took place. And then of course what the 258 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: song They Not Like Us is all about. But the 259 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: bed Bunny thing is not the story. The story is 260 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: the Taylor Swift story. Because, as the story wins, Taylor 261 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: Swift was approached about doing the halftime show. You're engaged 262 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: to Travis Kelcey of the Kansas City Chiefs. My gosh, 263 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: this is everything you could want. Taylor Swift at the 264 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: halftime show. As the story goes, she. 265 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 4: Said no, thanks, not interested. 266 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: Because it seems that Taylor wanted to get paid, and 267 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: if you don't know, the NFL doesn't pay the performers 268 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: of the halftime show. They don't get paid. They get exposure, 269 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: biggest stage. 270 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 4: In the world. 271 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: You want to be on it or not, it'll help 272 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: the album sales. They don't get paid. Taylor said, Hi, 273 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: maybe you don't know me, but I could. I could sneeze. 274 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: I was gonna I was gonna say something dirtier. I 275 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: could sneeze on Instagram and I can get more viewers 276 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: of my sneeze than you have for the Super Bowl. 277 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 4: I want you to know I cleaned it up in 278 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 4: the middle of the thought. That's how much I care 279 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 4: about you and my affiliates. That's all I have to do. 280 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 4: What are you talking about? 281 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: Exposure? You want me, you pay for me. That's all 282 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: there is to it. She wanted a deal that reflected 283 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: her value. Me too, I want a deal that reflects 284 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift's value. 285 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 4: Who wouldn't. 286 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: She's right to say no, did the NFL really think 287 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: they could get her? 288 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 4: And you could say to me. 289 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: Well, tony, other people have done the halftime show. I 290 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: didn't need the exposure. Michael Jackson didn't need the exposure. 291 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: Janet Jackson didn't need the exposure. And that's a great 292 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: double on Tanja right there. Prince didn't need the exposure. 293 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: I would say that that's all true, and they could 294 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: have had their own reasons for doing the show right, 295 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: different time, in place, different ways of reaching people. 296 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 4: They may have seen evaluated. 297 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: It might have just been like, you know what, this 298 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: sounds like fun, Let's go do something fun. This sounds 299 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: like a good time, Let's go do that. 300 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 4: That could have very well been it. 301 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: But the idea that you're surprised that Taylor would say no, 302 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: of course Taylor said no. Just came off the biggest 303 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: tour ever. You have nothing that you can offer her, 304 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: and she was right. 305 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 4: Now. 306 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: Ten years from now, maybe she'll see it differently. The 307 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: audience will have grown up. No one stays young for forever. 308 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: Things change, sure, but I say that she's accurate. And 309 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: as for the bad Bunny pick, I don't know. I'll 310 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: see the clips, but I won't worry about the halftime show, 311 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: and I don't think the vast majority of people will either. 312 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: I have to assume that the vast majority of people 313 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: are going to say, or at least I shouldn't say 314 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: vast majority, A fair majority of people are gonna. 315 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 4: Say, I wonder what else is on? But the NFL 316 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 4: isn't after you. 317 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: They're not after you if you speak English and live 318 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: in the Midwest. Then again if you if it was 319 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, I asked this, were you going to watch? 320 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: Let's just say there are very few acts you would 321 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: have watched your daughters would have watched. I have no 322 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: idea they're going to watch Bad Bunny, which, by the way, 323 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: is an absolutely horrific name. 324 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 4: Just call him Frank. This is Tony Katts today. 325 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: Can you tell us what you think about What do 326 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: you think about the attack on the Dallas ice facility? 327 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 4: What was your reaction when you saw the shooting the 328 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 4: shooting at the ice facility in Dallas. I'm not aware 329 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 4: another attack on ice water facility. To take a look 330 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 4: at my staff, bring me the report walking through? Was 331 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 4: it a hotel lobby? 332 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: She's not aware that an ice facility was attacked? 333 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 4: Sure? 334 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 3: Hm. 335 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: Maybe we shouldn't be electing Octaggerians, octan Agerians, Octanigerians. 336 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 4: That's it. 337 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: That's the word. If we shouldn't be electing eighty year olds. 338 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: Tony Kats, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. 339 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: Eight three three four six eight eight six six' nine 340 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: eight three three Got. 341 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 4: Tony that's how you get to be a part of the. 342 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: Show so That's Maxine, waters then there's Lehan omar is. 343 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 4: Responsible that's your. Opinion, Man i'm just asking what you. 344 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: Think you don't, Think, No i'm just asking the. 345 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 4: Question but thank, you thank. 346 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: You was that Ilhan omar claiming that the shooting At 347 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: ice At ice was the fault Of. Republicans but this 348 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: is the kind of nonsense that you get from people 349 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: who are not serious. 350 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 4: People and you know that they're not. 351 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: Serious people because they make kind of ridiculous claims like 352 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: this one at any. 353 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 3: Time you know that he sees a black woman sort 354 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: of stand up for, ourselves that that is, intelligent that 355 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: is able to command. Respect he wants to go after 356 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 3: them and break them. Down but he doesn't understand that 357 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 3: you can't really like bully a black, woman, right like 358 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 3: we're bill. 359 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: Different, yeah let me ask you about this because what 360 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: what is THAT i have heard things like this in 361 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: my life AND i always thought it was some of 362 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: the most biggotan. 363 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 4: And ridiculous stuff out. 364 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: There oh you can't say that to a black. Woman 365 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 1: oh you can't say that to a black. Man oh 366 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: you can't say that to a spanic. Woman all you 367 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: would want to say that to An italian? 368 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 4: Woman what is? This you could say anything you. 369 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: Want some people react one, way some people react another. 370 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: Way you can't say that to these. People you can't 371 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: bully a black woman who's bullying? Anybody what are you talking? 372 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: About AND i don't think you're tough if you marry 373 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: your own. 374 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 4: Brother this is just one man's. Philosophy oh, Wait i'm. 375 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: Sorry, Allegedly someone please tell the LAWYERS i said allegedly. 376 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 4: She's totally fine with trying to bully The. Jews you, 377 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 4: know it's all about The benjamins and what have. You oh, 378 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 4: yeah it's just about is of course it. 379 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: Is, AH i can't say that on, Air But, niko 380 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: you can't bully Black what is? 381 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 4: What possibly is he referring? To is she referring? To? 382 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: Here what bullying do you think is taking? Place it's 383 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: such a, weird non sensical. 384 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 4: Statement it's a statement of sudo. 385 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: Intellectualism and it is only appropriate that she made this 386 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: statement To Don, lemon Because Don lemon is the king 387 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: of pudo. Intellectualism men who look like, you men who 388 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: vote like, you and men who sound like you. 389 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 4: White. Men something is. 390 00:23:53,600 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: Broken something is cracked deep inside when so many of 391 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: you believe the. 392 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 4: Answer to, fear to, loss to change is. Violence are 393 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 4: you listening to? ME i Hope i'm saying it loud 394 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 4: enough for the people in the. Back, no, no, no we heard, 395 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 4: You we heard. 396 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: You DON i just would like for you to now 397 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: to address the black on black violence in every major. 398 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: City white people only know how to respond to anything with. 399 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: Violence CAN i ask for those of you in the 400 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: cheap seats that he was referring to the people in the. 401 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: Back that's a VERY kkk kind of, line isn't. It 402 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: you're saying that because of a skin, color people can't 403 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: react appropriately or, responsibly which is exactly what groups like 404 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: THE kkk would say about black, men about black people in, 405 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: general that somehow the color of the skin MEANT, X 406 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: y and z and an incapacity to do this or 407 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: an incapability to do. That how Is Don lemon not 408 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: engaged in a full ku Klux klan Conversation three k's 409 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: in a c For Don, lemon The ku Klux klan, 410 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: conversation that's what he's. Saying no, conversation by the, way 411 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: regarding the black on black violence in all of these. 412 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 1: Cities what a, weird odd thing to. Say but it 413 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: goes to what Ilhan omar was just talking about about being. 414 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: Bullied this is some pseudo, intellectual tough guy nonsense that 415 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: gets thrown into the. Ether, hey let's see IF i 416 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: can enrage. Somebody let's see IF i can get four more. 417 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: Clicks but what does it actually? Do what kind of 418 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: how is anybody better off from that? Statement the answer 419 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: is they're. Not but the response from that, is, well, 420 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: tony no one's trying to be better off from the. 421 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: Statement he's not trying to make anybody better off from the. 422 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: Statement he just wants you to talk about it so 423 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: he could be seen as a guy who is starring the. 424 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 4: Pot he'll get more clicks and therefore make more. 425 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: Money you're the one playing into, it and you might 426 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: very well be right about. 427 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 4: That you might very well be right about. 428 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: THAT i, mean it's the same way that MAYBE i 429 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: shouldn't be playing any ton of heasty coats and producier. 430 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 4: LANDON i think it's. CLEAN i remember a, clean but 431 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 4: finger on the dumb button just in. CASE i don't. 432 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 8: Take any joy in saying, this but we sometimes soothe 433 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 8: ourselves by pointing out that, love acceptance. Wanted these are powerful. 434 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 8: FORCES i believe they. ARE i also believe hate is 435 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 8: a powerful. FORCE i believe it's a, powerful powerful unifying. 436 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 8: Force AND i Think Charlie kirk was a hate. Longer you, 437 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 8: KNOW i really need to say this over and over. 438 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 8: AGAIN i have a politic that rejects, violence that rejects political. 439 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 8: VIOLENCE i take no joy in the killing of, anyone 440 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 8: no matter what they. Said but if you asked me 441 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 8: what the truth of his life, was you, know and 442 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 8: the truth of his public, LIFE i would have to 443 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 8: tell you it's. HATE i would tell. You i'd had 444 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 8: to tell you it is the usage of hate and 445 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 8: a harnessing of hate towards. 446 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: Political enjoy THAT i, mean this is you, right hate 447 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: of white. People oh my, gosh your book about you. 448 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 4: Know, OH i. 449 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: Spent a week In, israel And i've determined that it's 450 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: all The israeli's. Fault such a such a, deep deep. 451 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 4: Mind what do you do with? That that's his. Take 452 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 4: everyone's got a. 453 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: Take, now very few people get to make it to 454 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: The New York times with that, take and Have ezra 455 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: kleinjo just go. Hmm there are always going to be 456 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: people who don't address things with. Honesty they address things 457 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: through their. 458 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 4: Not just their. 459 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: Lens, right one THING i could, understand but RATHER i 460 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: have to see it a certain. Way, right everyone gets 461 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: accused of, this and they accused me of, this it's 462 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: me accusing him of. This it's him accusing somebody else of. 463 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: This if your take is That Charlie kirk was a 464 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: hater for debating people in, public, Okay, now did most 465 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: people show up to those debates because they were Watching 466 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: Charlie kirk slap around a liberal like a cat with a? 467 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 4: Mouse ten? Percent someone wants to argue that all. 468 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: Day but the idea that there was a hate, there 469 00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: it's a. 470 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 4: Hate for what? Communism, sure. 471 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: People who were opposed to The american way of, life 472 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: to the value system that we. Have maybe people would 473 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: say that about. YOU i don't know if it should mean. 474 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 4: Any more any, less it's just what Is. 475 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: You listened To Charlie kirk and you determined. HATER i 476 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,479 Speaker 1: got hundreds of thousands of not, millions of people who 477 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: see it the other, Way. 478 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 4: So, sure you go right. 479 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: Ahead maybe we should take a look at the Author 480 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: Tanahisi coates and see it is differently than What Ilhana mar, 481 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: said And Don lemon, said because what they said isn't 482 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: so much opinion as it is rabbel, rousing pseudo, intellectual 483 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: tough guy nonsense. 484 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 4: Coats is just. Wrong maybe that's the way it should be. 485 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 4: Seen and maybe that's all we can. 486 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: Do listen to this as do you hear people and be, Like, 487 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: yep that's. Wrong, yeah that's a. Mistake, no, no, Nope 488 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: i'm gonna make SURE i explain to my kids why 489 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: that's a. Mistake as opposed to people Like lemon And 490 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: omar who in this, case who are. 491 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 4: Trying to. 492 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: Play, tough those are different. Things maybe we should see 493 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: them as different. Things and then there's just the stuff 494 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: that's flat out. Ignorant the stuff that's flat out ignorant 495 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: is people like the mayor Of chicago who want to 496 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: say That Asada shakur was an important person in The 497 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: black liberation. Movement Asada shakur was a communist who killed 498 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: A New Jersey state trooper and then fled to live 499 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: the rest of her life In. Cuba she wasn't important 500 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: in any. Way she was a despicable low communist and. 501 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: Murderer and leftists who want to support her are dangerous 502 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: people who should be noted as dangerous people and shouldn't 503 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: be given any political. 504 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 4: Power. 505 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: Opinions people are gonna have. Opinions you're disagree with. Opinions 506 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: some you're gonna be, like that's just flat out. Wrong 507 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: some people are just gonna be fools desperate that you'll 508 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: pay attention to. Them and some people are gonna promote, 509 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: communists which is just flat out. DANGEROUS i think it's 510 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: important that we are able to note the difference and 511 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: then apply ourselves accordingly to those. DIFFERENCES i can Ignore 512 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: Tanahisi coates what a. FOOL i can discuss the ignorance 513 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: Of omar And, lemon AND i could say without any 514 00:31:54,240 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: fear that the mayor Of chicago is a absolutely stating 515 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: that communism and cop killing is. Fine you don't vote 516 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: for losers like. That you don't vote For Ilejhano mari. 517 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: Either I'm Tony, katz and this Is Tony katz. Today 518 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: the shooter In michigan who set the church on, fire 519 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: ran his truck into the, church killed two, people set 520 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: the church on. Fire two others were killed in the. 521 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: Fire real issue With, Mormons this is ugly. Stuff Tony, 522 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: Katz Tony katz, today good to be with. You the 523 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: shooter had a, rifle changed gunfire with officers killed at the. 524 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: Scene AS i know the, story and they're still working 525 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: on levels of, motive WHICH i. Thought we had a 526 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: conversation that happened with a guy running for school. Board 527 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: the guy running for the local. Office, remembered actually he 528 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: wasn't running for school. Bard he's running for city. COUNCIL 529 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: i remember the conversation he. Had he knocked on this guy's. 530 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: Door they had like a twenty minute conversation and then got. 531 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: In he all of a, sudden he's talking bad About 532 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: mormons and referred to him as The. Antichrist he had an. 533 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: Issue but AS i know the, story he rams his 534 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: truck into the. Church people came to the truck to 535 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: see if he was, okay and that's when he started. 536 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: Firing he wanted to do as much damage. 537 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 4: As he. Could it is an absolutely horrific. 538 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: Story previously arrested as reported By Fox news For burglary AND. 539 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: Owi when did it BECOME owi and NOT? Dwi when 540 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: did that? CHANGE i wasn't always driving under the. Influence 541 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: now it's operating while. INTOXICATED i don't know why that. 542 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: Changed i'm, like was there a woke reason or is 543 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: there some other legal reason to engage a little more. 544 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 4: SPECIFICITY i don't. 545 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 1: Know WHAT i do know is that there were people 546 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: desperate to, Scream oh look. 547 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 4: At What magga. DID i can't Believe maga. Did it's 548 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 4: oh my, Gosh. MAGGA i have no. 549 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: Idea, yes Two american flags out the back of his. 550 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: Truck i'm telling, You i've got no. Idea And i'm 551 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: bothered that we don't know more because every time something, 552 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: happens we either know everything because it's about people on 553 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: the political right and it makes them look, bad or. 554 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 4: We don't get. 555 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 1: Information it turns out it's regarding something on the political, 556 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: left and somehow it gets, hidden kept, away kept in the, dark. 557 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: ETC i don't want any part of this kept in the. 558 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: DARK i don't Want mormons thinking that every time they 559 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: go to their services that they're under. Attack but then, 560 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: Again i've said this many. Times you are a soft 561 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: target in your place of. Worship buy guns BY, ammo get, 562 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: trained be, prepared be, Ready and any church leader or, 563 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: pastor priest or rabbi whatever who says we don't bring 564 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: guns to this place of. Worship fire them or quit 565 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: because they're not serious about protecting. Themselves they're not serious 566 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: about lives being at, stake and they need. 567 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 4: To be awful. 568 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: Story as we get more, Details i'll bring them to. 569 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: You find everything at tonycats dot. Com this Is Tony Kats. 570 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: Today