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Speaker 2: So on August twentieth, the Metropolitan Development Commission, they voted

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Speaker 2: You only had one person dissent. However, there were more

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Speaker 1: Forty five hundred people. All Right, so let me explain

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Speaker 2: So you had mentioned utility costs rising and AEES is

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Speaker 3: Cheaper stuff and more freedom, roads, the roads, bridges, sidewalks,

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Speaker 3: that's the basic, the basic functions of government. Like I

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Speaker 1: Now and we have two football fields. Did you know this? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's never stopping. And we ultimately we only have ourselves

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Speaker 2: So Indiana's Speaker of the House, Todd Houston's daughter.

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Speaker 2: It just it's relationships. So Obviously, she's been around these

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Speaker 2: that doesn't surprise me that she does that, and there's

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm, all right, you ready to get your brain going.

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Speaker 1: Oh, how exciting? What are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Okay? This is five and ten?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a category and you have

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, So like if you told me US presidents,

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Speaker 2: Whatever you got to do in ten seconds. We've got

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Speaker 2: five different categories. These are going to get progressively harder.

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Speaker 1: My brain doesn't work very quick, so I'm guessing I'll

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Speaker 2: I've got the bell here, excited, I let you know

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Speaker 2: when time is up, and I am timing you.

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Speaker 1: Oh, very good, okay. I love how you're like. It's

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Speaker 2: That's right. We're down to business here.

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Speaker 2: Your first category, Yes, Holidays.

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Speaker 1: Christmas, Thanksgiving, Easter, Valentine's Day, Saint Patrick's Day.

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Speaker 2: Five point four seconds. Very nice. Okay. Your next category restaurants.

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Speaker 1: RB's, McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King.

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Speaker 2: Taco Bell four point nine seconds. You're actually improving with this.

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Speaker 2: This is fantastic. I had to ring the bell once.

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Speaker 1: Wait and I'll give you when do I go? Do

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Speaker 1: I start? When I just start naming things? Okay, I

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Speaker 2: one is right up your ally. Taxes in Indiana.

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Speaker 2: That was eight point two. I was actually talking about

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Speaker 2: Specific taxes that you pay as an Indiana resident? Go?

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Speaker 1: Okay, gas tax, wheel tax, property tax, income tax, and

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Speaker 1: were the poor? I said? What were the four? I said?

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Speaker 2: We've prepped this out. Here's your last category. Redeem yourself

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Speaker 2: right now, Rob Kendall.

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Speaker 2: Last category, Indiana State Reps.

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Speaker 1: I just want me to name the state reps right now? Okay, Ireland, Haggard, Thompson,

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Speaker 1: stirwalled spark or cash. I made it.

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Speaker 2: That was thirteen seconds. We let it go.

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Speaker 1: Well, the sparks of cash look exactly the same, and

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you're thinking this morning. It is kend Ofy Casey.

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Speaker 2: It's ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So there's a new poll out on Trump. Is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a new gallup hole and it covers

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Speaker 2: quite a few things, but it overall talks about his

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Speaker 1: So forty percent of Americans are approving of the job

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Speaker 1: Trump is doing. Look, and this is where I think

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Speaker 1: Clinton has entered the chat. Thank you, But like these

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Speaker 2: Is his idea of coalition building, inviting people to the

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Speaker 1: Well, but that's not the public at large. You're not

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Speaker 1: We believe this has caused error or harm or whatever

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Speaker 1: And so the Big Bullcrap Bill is a great example

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Speaker 1: It's always somebody without a name or a photo, right

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Speaker 1: I'm not the president. When I was an elected official

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Speaker 1: I don't want to have to be nice to people

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Speaker 1: That no, because I don't want to have to play

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Speaker 1: good at creating environment where you can not only get

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Speaker 2: One thing that Trump is definitely handling differently is his

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Speaker 2: media they're the entire time. I mean, that's more engagement

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Speaker 2: than you ever got with the buying administration in one day.

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Speaker 1: Sure, okay, but like here's an example. I was listening.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this was Tony's show or what

436
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Speaker 1: it was. It must have been Tony Shows because I

437
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Speaker 1: was coming home from work and they're playing this press

438
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Speaker 1: conference of him and I joined it mid things, so

439
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Speaker 1: I don't know the whole background on it. But he's

440
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Speaker 1: someone talking about the automobile industry and it's, oh, the

441
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Speaker 1: Teamsters guy. I saw him on TV and he was

442
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Speaker 1: he was being so nice to me and he used

443
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Speaker 1: to not be nice to me, and all the Teamsters

444
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Speaker 1: people they all voted for me, and oh they all

445
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and it's just like it's you you

446
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Speaker 1: you you you you you you you, and you're the

447
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Speaker 1: best and you're this and you've won. Somebody but it's

448
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Speaker 1: just like that is exhausting to people. And that's fine.

449
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: If you don't care about anything. You're just doing a

450
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Speaker 1: lift myself up routine, that's great. Whatever, it's you know,

451
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Speaker 1: fun it's funny, like I'm wah blue, you're driving down

452
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Speaker 1: the road. I'm chuckling as I'm listening to it because

453
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Speaker 1: I know what he's doing and it's humorous to me.

454
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Speaker 1: But you're not going to convince people of whatever the

455
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Speaker 1: thing is by just continually telling them how great you are.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like it's just it's and it's just it's

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Speaker 1: just when you if the presidency is such a powerful

458
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Speaker 1: position and you have such an ability to do so

459
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Speaker 1: many things that I hate seeing when things don't get accomplished,

460
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Speaker 1: or they don't get accomplished to the level they could

461
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Speaker 1: be because you won't check your personality or ear.

462
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Speaker 2: They don't want to filter through the personality to look

463
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Speaker 2: at the policy.

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Speaker 1: Right, and people can't and are not willing to do that.

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Speaker 1: And so that's why to bring all this full circle,

466
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Speaker 1: this is why you find the guy at forty percent.

467
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Speaker 1: It's with Trump, there's so much more than just his policies,

468
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Speaker 1: which is too bad because while there's certainly things I

469
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Speaker 1: don't agree with. There are a lot of policies that

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Speaker 1: he has that I think I've been beneficial to the country.

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Speaker 1: I think the immigration stuff, I think the foreign policy

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Speaker 1: is much.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, let's look at these. We've got numbers for that.

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Speaker 2: For the economy, he's got a thirty seven percent approval rating,

475
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Speaker 2: which is down five points from February, and it is

476
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Speaker 2: the lowest since this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that makes sense. The economy is no better

478
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Speaker 1: under Trump, I don't think. I mean, do you look

479
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Speaker 1: at anything and go, oh my gosh, it's so much

480
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Speaker 1: better because Trump and his new policies are here. No,

481
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Speaker 1: I don't think an average person if you can eliminate

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Speaker 1: the names Biden and Trump, if you just showed them

483
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Speaker 1: the data on the economy, ord they're how they're personally

484
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Speaker 1: feeling or personally experiencing things when we go to the

485
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Speaker 1: grocery store we talk about all the time.

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Speaker 2: Well, and in some cases is worse.

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Speaker 1: You're right, terror right, if we're being honest with these

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Speaker 1: things are more experence. Okay, very good, I would buy that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, what it was.

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Speaker 2: The other one is foreign affairs thirty nine percent approval rating,

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Speaker 2: And they also did a measurement on education, which was

492
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Speaker 2: the first time they've measured his approval rating on education

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Speaker 2: so far this term, and he's at thirty eight percent.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, other than other than the border and immigration,

495
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Speaker 1: which he gets great marks on, is there anything going

496
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Speaker 1: on right now that you say, well, if it weren't

497
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: for Trump, we'd be much worse off. I'm not asking

498
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: to be facetious. I'm trying to. I'm not trying to

499
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Speaker 1: like I'm genuinely curious. Like I can tell you when

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Speaker 1: you talk about immigration now, he's got a major problem

501
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Speaker 1: with all these people that are still coming in from

502
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Speaker 1: China and India and these HP one VSA people and

503
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Speaker 1: all this other stuff. That's a major issue. But I'm

504
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Speaker 1: saying in terms of I would say immigration is much better.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything in this country right now that you

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Speaker 1: would say other than immigration, if Trump weren't here, would

507
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Speaker 1: be so much worse off.

508
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Speaker 2: Well, I think he's trying to address crime.

509
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Speaker 1: And wait, wait no, no, in Washington, d C. Right, president

510
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Speaker 1: has no impact on crime elsewhere elsewhere?

511
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Speaker 2: Right, If nothing else, he's bringing more attention.

512
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Speaker 1: I think you could say it's Washington, DC is probably

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Speaker 1: safe for how does that help you? Well?

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Speaker 2: When I visit there, Okay, I'm.

515
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Speaker 1: Saying you personally in your day to day existence, like,

516
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Speaker 1: how does it? Howes it help you?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Well, it doesn't exactly other than it's you know,

518
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Speaker 2: being talked about more. How about the MAHA movement? Now,

519
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 2: are you going to give Trump that credit for that?

520
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 2: Or is that RFK Junior?

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Speaker 1: Well, but how do we know? I mean, none of

522
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Speaker 1: it's even taken effect yet. Like, okay, you're red dye

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Speaker 1: number eighty nine.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely more awareness. Doesn't that count for something?

525
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Speaker 1: But more awareness on what red diety nines out of

526
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Speaker 1: the skittles.

527
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Speaker 2: For people to try and move more?

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Speaker 1: What is the healthier? Yeah? But what is the health

529
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Speaker 1: movement in this country? What is it? I mean they're

530
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Speaker 1: doing these things, but do you see a slew of

531
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Speaker 1: people out exercising that weren't before or hitting your local gymnasium. No,

532
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Speaker 1: I mean they're doing things and it's fine. What I'm

533
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Speaker 1: trying I'm not trying to be difficult with this, but

534
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Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say is there's just nothing. I'm

535
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Speaker 1: not surprised his approval rating is this low because other

536
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Speaker 1: than immigrat which is a split issue anyway. There's just

537
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: not there's just not anything Trump's doing. Everybody knows what

538
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: that that big bullcrap bill is. The politicians can lie

539
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: to you, they can spin it, they can you know

540
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: deep down that it was nothing, because that's what giant

541
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Speaker 1: monstrosity bills always end up as as these big giveaways

542
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: that benefit the tippy top people and you get nothing

543
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Speaker 1: or next to nothing out of it.

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Speaker 2: So listen to this partisan divide on this. Ninety three

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Speaker 2: percent of Republicans approve of Trump and only one percent

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Speaker 2: of Democrats.

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Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, no, no, no, no, See this is the problem.

548
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Speaker 1: People believe, they want to believe. We're gona try to

549
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Speaker 1: cut you off. There's somebody in the YouTube chat that

550
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Speaker 1: said gas prices are much are much cheaper. That's not

551
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Speaker 1: true at all. Let's see gas is what three poin

552
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Speaker 1: forty now or something like that. What were gas prices?

553
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Speaker 2: Yes, Studdy said that the there was a refinery out.

554
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Speaker 2: It's that costs some increases temporarily.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But but I'm saying, okay, so let's just say,

556
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Speaker 1: but I'm saying on average, this is three oh nine,

557
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Speaker 1: three ten, you know, three ten, Yeah, whatever, like, I

558
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Speaker 1: don't recall gas being two do you know five dollars

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Speaker 1: a gallon at the first of this year? Okay, on

560
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Speaker 1: January one, the national average or price of gas is

561
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Speaker 1: three oh six to three oh eight, So it's unchanged.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing going on that's making gas much cheaper. It's

563
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Speaker 1: like we're paying two dollars a gallon for gas now

564
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Speaker 1: in your mind because Trump talks about drilling and all

565
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: that other stuff. Maybe you've conventures up with the statistical

566
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Speaker 1: data shows no, it's not.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, can you play number four if you can find that?

568
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Speaker 2: So this is something that you know, maybe he believes it.

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Speaker 4: Do you have any The wages for blue collar workers

570
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Speaker 4: are now rising at the fastest rate in sixty years,

571
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Speaker 4: which is so important to all of us around this table.

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Speaker 4: The average American workers have already seen a five hundred

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Speaker 4: dollars wage increase this year, and there's no inflation because

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Speaker 4: there's been decreases, tremendous decreases with thanks to Doug and

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Speaker 4: Chris and some of the people the great job get

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Speaker 4: done with energy. Thank you very much, and Chris, thank

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Speaker 4: you very much. I see you down close to sixty

578
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Speaker 4: dollars a barrel and you'll be breaking that pretty soon.

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Speaker 4: And that has a huge impact. So we have groceries down.

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Speaker 4: Energy is way down. Energy is way down. It was

581
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Speaker 4: four and five dollars for a gallon of gas. Think

582
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Speaker 4: of that gasoline, and now it's probably two twenty five.

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Speaker 4: There are some places it's two dollars. It's even it

584
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Speaker 4: broke two dollars at a couple of locations.

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Speaker 1: And what planet is he living on?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Where is this gas at?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's definitely not here in Indiana.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look the gas like, that's what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 1: the food is not cheaper, Inflation is not down. Is

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Speaker 1: it as high as it was in twenty twenty two? No,

592
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Speaker 1: But that's insulting to me. See, this is why he

593
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: can't move forward because people hear that I almost said it,

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00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: they go bull crap. That's insulting to me because I

595
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Speaker 1: have to go grocery shopping once a week. I know,

596
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Speaker 1: what the when's the last time you went grocery shopping?

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump? Seriously, when do you think the last time

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump went to a supermarket and had to work

599
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: his way through the through the aisles? No, what do

600
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Speaker 1: you think?

601
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Speaker 2: Me? A concession? Stand at a golf course.

602
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: Right, or the or the or the gas station. What

603
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: do you think he's actually pulled up and put a

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00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: credit card in and paid. See this is the And

605
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: then like again, I get people want to like the

606
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Speaker 1: guy and they're invested in him and everything, and that's great,

607
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: but that stuff just really alienates, especially people in the

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Speaker 1: middle because like sir, that is not.

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Speaker 2: That's not true.

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Speaker 1: That is not happening. One thing that is happening, though, Casey,

611
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Speaker 1: is that our attorney general could be in big trouble.

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Speaker 2: Abdula is going to join us next on ninety three

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Speaker 2: w IBC.

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Speaker 1: So the Attorney General could be in trouble and that's

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Speaker 1: a win for humanity. It's still a Casey show, Rob

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Speaker 1: Casey's here. Look who it is is, author, broadcaster provocateur

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Speaker 1: Sowre nemesis of the Attorney General, Todd Raketo Bulagip Shabaz.

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Speaker 5: Hello, I'm the Clark kent to his lex luthor. But

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Speaker 5: then again that's given. That's an insult to lex luthor.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you know, obviously we've covered this in depth

621
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Speaker 1: just very quickly. Most people are aware. But for those

622
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Speaker 1: who aren't, Todd roket of the attorney General is currently

623
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Speaker 1: finding himself for a second time in front of the

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Speaker 1: Indiana State Disciplinary Commission that police's attorneys. And this is

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Speaker 1: related to him basically making statements that were in appear

626
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Speaker 1: to be in contrast with an agreement he signed with

627
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Speaker 1: the court over statements he had made on Fox News.

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Speaker 1: And this matters because this group has the ability to

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Speaker 1: yank his law license, and if they choose to yank

630
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Speaker 1: his law license, he cannot be the attorney general in

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Speaker 1: the state of Indiana. I talked about this with Casey.

632
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Speaker 1: I am totally biased on this. I think the guy's

633
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Speaker 1: a complete buffoon. I think he has no business being

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Speaker 1: the attorney general. I think it's a he's a horrible

635
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Speaker 1: person and to be in that position because you should

636
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Speaker 1: have non political people as the chief law enforcement officer

637
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Speaker 1: for the state of Indiana. He is wholly political. However,

638
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: I always thought he was going to, you know, find

639
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Speaker 1: a way to weasel his way out of it. But

640
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: after the other day, when this three judge panel that

641
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: will help decide his fit fate denied basically all of

642
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: his request to delay and get more information and said

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Speaker 1: we will see you on such and such a day.

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00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 1: We highly see you, and we will see you in December.

645
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: We highly suggest you consider mediation and some sort of settlement.

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Speaker 1: I think, for the first time this dude could be

647
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: in real trouble. What say you.

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Speaker 5: I've thought about this from day one, and my position

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Speaker 5: has been consistent on day one is that Todd can't

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Speaker 5: keep his mouth shut and he always has to get attention.

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Speaker 5: And I can respect that to a certain degree. However,

652
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Speaker 5: I don't say things to put my law license in jeopardy.

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Speaker 5: I mean, what you have to go through to get

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Speaker 5: a law license to begin with, it is hard enough.

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Speaker 5: I've got to go no law school, bar exams, no

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Speaker 5: the whole nine character of fitness, to the whole nine yards.

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Speaker 5: And why you would jeopard is that over basically thirty

658
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Speaker 5: seconds of years of years of hard work. And who's

659
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Speaker 5: the village idiot?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: Yes, So for those who don't know, Todd called Abdullah

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Speaker 1: myself in recent appearances with the Hammer Nigel the village idiots,

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Speaker 1: which is fine. He cannot like us, but not liking

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Speaker 1: us doesn't change the facts on the ground, which is

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Speaker 1: this three judge panel, two of which were appointed by

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Speaker 1: Republican By Republicans, that will help decide his fate. They

668
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Speaker 1: are not messing around with this and the public might

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Speaker 1: you know, just you know, brust this aside. There is

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Speaker 1: a real chance, not saying it's going to happen, but

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Speaker 1: a real chance. They could recommend to the State Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court that he have his law license removed because they're

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Speaker 1: so sick of dealing with this guy. And if he does,

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Speaker 1: the governor could have to appoint a new attorney general.

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Speaker 5: And the other thing too, is but I don't think

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Speaker 5: mister Keida fully appreciates is the first time he got

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Speaker 5: away with it both with a three to two decision.

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Speaker 1: That's right. So let me real quick just explain. So

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Speaker 1: this this disciplinary Commission, it was a hearing officer then

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Speaker 1: I believe. Yeah, Now it's this three judge panel. The

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Speaker 1: State Supreme Court's set this up to try to take

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Speaker 1: away any claims of bias or I'm a victim or whatever,

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Speaker 1: which is another if you're reading the tea leaves on

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Speaker 1: how State Supreme Court feels about mister Roketa. The State

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court upon the plea agreement, for lack of a

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Speaker 1: better term, it was a three to two vote to

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Speaker 1: accept it. There were two judges who again, if you're

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Speaker 1: reading the tea leaves, didn't feel this was strong enough,

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Speaker 1: and now you're going to give this group another bite

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Speaker 1: at the apple. If you're Todd Roketo, why would you

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Speaker 1: have done that? Exactly?

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Speaker 5: And I've known all the justices for years, really good people,

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Speaker 5: of great character, of great integrity. They leave their personal

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Speaker 5: biases aside and apply the law on the facts. But

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Speaker 5: I could just see in their private chambers. I told

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Speaker 5: you so, I told you this was going to happen,

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Speaker 5: and now here we are. Now, let's apply the law

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Speaker 5: all those facutlet's do our jobs as judges. But just

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Speaker 5: w'll let you guys know, I told you this was

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Speaker 5: going to happen, and it did.

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Speaker 1: So this three judge panel which is set up by

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Speaker 1: the State Supreme Court, which will make a recommendation to them.

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Speaker 1: There are two Republican judges who have been appointed by Republicans,

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Speaker 1: one who is appointed by a Democrat. Two of them

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Speaker 1: are currently I believe on the State Court of Appeals,

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Speaker 1: one Democrat, one Republican, and then a former federal magistrate

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Speaker 1: as well. So they've set this date for December eighteenth.

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Speaker 1: They basically said this is going down. You know, be

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Speaker 1: there b square. They've set up the time frame by

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Speaker 1: which all this stuff has to be submitted. They have

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Speaker 1: given both this panel and the State Supreme Court appear

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Speaker 1: to have strongly urged mister Rokeita to settle this case.

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Speaker 1: But I just cannot see Todd going in with his

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Speaker 1: ego and who he is and going I'll except a

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Speaker 1: month's suspension or whatever in order to keep the all.

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Speaker 1: I just can't see him doing that.

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Speaker 5: Here's what this reminds me of. And I gotta I

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Speaker 5: gotta go a little bit of a tangent here back

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Speaker 5: in the early days, back in like two thousand and six,

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Speaker 5: two thousand and seven, when you're kind of get out

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Speaker 5: of getting out control that second side, not devanting in

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Speaker 5: a black expo because the nuhats were coming out. One

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Speaker 5: thing that a guy named Bill Benjamin, he was an

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Speaker 5: IMPD officer, would.

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Speaker 1: Do, wait for the colts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what he would do is they go to the

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Speaker 5: guy's house, Hey, how's it going.

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 5: You may want to go out of town this weekend

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Speaker 5: and go fuck go Vince your cousin down in Atlanta,

731
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Speaker 5: because I don't think downtown is where you want to

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Speaker 5: be in a nutshell to a certain degree. That's kind

733
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Speaker 5: of what the Supreme Court. So it was like, you

734
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Speaker 5: may want to mediate this because you will let you

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Speaker 5: make the decision yourself, because you don't want us to

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Speaker 5: make that decision.

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Speaker 1: And there's I just can't see it. Anything could happen,

738
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Speaker 1: right obviously this goose Supreme Court to look at it. This

739
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Speaker 1: three judges pederal later, Oh hate, nothing happened here. Everybody

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Speaker 1: go home. But I just cannot see given who he is,

741
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Speaker 1: he being Roketa, the way he just craves conflict, and

742
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Speaker 1: you know what some of these people think of him,

743
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Speaker 1: and that they're just going to let him skedoodle out

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Speaker 1: the door with anything that isn't at least a suspension

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Speaker 1: of some sort, because that's what Curtis Ill got.

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Speaker 5: Because here's the thing, but I don't think people fully

747
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Speaker 5: appreciate we're not debating what you said because you said it,

748
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Speaker 5: you did it, it's on the record several times. We're

749
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Speaker 5: just arguing, we're just we're going to shape with the table.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what's so important because in this latest round

751
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Speaker 1: of filings that this this three judge panel rejected, Raketa

752
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Speaker 1: was trying to get discovering all these other things, and

753
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Speaker 1: they said, eh, there's nothing that needs to be discovered.

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Speaker 1: You signed this document which says this, You made these

755
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Speaker 1: statements afterwards which says that, and we gotta we gotta

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Speaker 1: square all that up. It's the only thing we're looking

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Speaker 1: at here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all this other stuff, you know, First Amendment, goodbye,

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Speaker 5: slap statute, goodbye. None of that matters. This. This is

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Speaker 5: what we're focusing on. And that's the end of the discussion.

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Speaker 5: Now I can see rare Keda is still trying to

762
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Speaker 5: weasele maneuver his way into like this is the first moment. Okay,

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Speaker 5: that's fine, mister Keita motion denied.

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Speaker 1: Click. Yeah, Well, and let's touch on that real quick,

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Speaker 1: because one of the things I see from and there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people who just will twist twist themselves

767
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Speaker 1: into whatever mental press they want. Well, his first Amendment, right,

768
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Speaker 1: he can say no, you can't. The same way is

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Speaker 1: I cannot come on here on these radio airwaves and

770
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Speaker 1: say a whole bunch of words, seven of them in

771
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Speaker 1: particularly Well it changes right over time, right like, but

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Speaker 1: there are standards to which I cannot words, I cannot

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Speaker 1: do things, I cannot say that I accept in order

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Speaker 1: to be on these airwaves. Now I can walk down

775
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Speaker 1: to forty Monuments outside of forty Monuments Circle where're at

776
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Speaker 1: right now, and I can say whatever I want on

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Speaker 1: that sidewalk, and it's fine, But I accept that in

778
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Speaker 1: order the privilege, the right to be in the club

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Speaker 1: to be here. Same thing with the being attorney expanded this,

780
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Speaker 1: it's the same thing with being an attorney. You don't

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Speaker 1: have to have a law license. And in order to

782
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Speaker 1: have a law license in this state, there are rules

783
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Speaker 1: you agree to abide by in terms of your behavior.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't want to do that, don't be

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Speaker 1: an attorney.

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Speaker 5: And well, you took a class with this too, what

787
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Speaker 5: are your law school ethics in professional conduct? There are

788
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Speaker 5: certain things that lawyers cannot do. Now you give up

789
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 5: your law license or you retire, you can go say

790
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Speaker 5: and do whatever you want right within reason. But by

791
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Speaker 5: the way, even the First Amendment has limits on it,

792
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Speaker 5: as some people are finding out right.

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Speaker 1: Sure, but he could have if Todd Rokeito were a

794
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Speaker 1: senator or a congressman, he could have gone on Fox

795
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Speaker 1: News and said exactly what he said about that abortion doctor,

796
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Speaker 1: which is what got him in the hot water to

797
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Speaker 1: begin with and there would have been no problem with it.

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Speaker 1: He has the right to say the things that said.

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Speaker 1: I don't even disagree with a lot of things he said.

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Speaker 1: But the point is, you're the attorney general, you're the

801
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Speaker 1: chief law enforcement officer for the state of Indiana. You

802
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Speaker 1: are an attorney. There are rules you have to abide by,

803
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Speaker 1: and so you don't get to say the things you

804
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Speaker 1: get to say if you're not an attorney.

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Speaker 5: Exactly and simple. It's really simple. He caught a license, yes,

806
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Speaker 5: thank you very very much. Like you don't have a

807
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 5: right to drive. You have a license right.

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Speaker 1: If you do certain things, they will yank away your

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Speaker 1: license to drive an automobile. Okay, very good. You can

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Speaker 1: find him over at Indiepolitics dot org of doue to

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Speaker 1: keep your bass. Thank you, thank you. It's gonna do

812
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Speaker 1: it for us today. Thank you to Kevin and Casey

813
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: is well, great job, and most poorly, thank you to

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Speaker 1: you the listener. Without you, there is no stick around.

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Speaker 1: Tony Kat's coming up next, Kennel Case Show ninety three

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Speaker 1: w IBC