1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: We are live twenty twenty six six. Man, everything's rolling 2 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: back out. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: I know, I know. Everything is back at it now. 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: Man, My Tuesdays, Wednesday, Sundays back full well and then 5 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: effect glad to have everybody piling in joining us for 6 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: our first show of the year. My name is Kenneth 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: be is joining me on the show's rod and FFO 8 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: what ep fellas? 9 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: Man? What's up? By the way, you see that? 10 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 4: That's why I put the name up there? Broke another question. 11 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: Right right, right right? 12 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: Uh, Sam's basic for thirty man, you know bas for thirty. 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Uh will be away for uh maybe a couple of 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: much what's yead go? 15 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: But man has a great opportunity for him. We love 16 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: your brother. We hope everything is going well. I did 17 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: talk to him. 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: And is whipping him up already, right, you know, so 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: so but yeah, man, you know, but it's always fun. 20 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: You know. 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, yeah, I was over there a 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago listening to some some beats or whatever. 23 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 3: He working on a new beat tape sounds Yeah. Yeah. 24 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 5: He didn't release the cover for it, and everything that's 25 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 5: coming out soon they mixing master process. 26 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, man, he still you know, he's still gonna 27 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: be active, you know what I'm saying. 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 5: They working him like a dog, but he's still gonna 29 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 5: be honest when this hip possible, you know. 30 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: So you know, every year we start off with our anticipations. 32 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: You know, we've been doing it since twenty eleven. You know, 33 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: some of the old g's you guys know how I 34 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: am about that, Uh hasn't changed. But you know, the 35 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: show what's going and you guys are here to see 36 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: a show. But this year we're gonna do something a 37 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: little bit different. We're definitely gonna talk about, you know, anticipations, 38 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: but we're gonna be forward thinking, like do a little 39 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: predictions look ahead. You know, we got some albums that 40 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: may be on the way, talk about like the state 41 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: of the industry and stuff like that. So we're just 42 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: gonna have a little bit more of an immersive, a 43 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: different type of conversation. 44 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 2: We are not doing it alone. 45 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: We are doing it with two brothers with a third 46 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: on the way from wrap round table. These fellas are 47 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: no strangers to controversy or controversial statements, you know, so 48 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: they're making their rounds. So joining us, man, we have 49 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: coming to the stage, Jar and Deanie, What up? 50 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 6: Jar? 51 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: What up? Dean's good? People? Yeah? Man, what's what's the 52 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: word people? 53 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 7: What's the word? 54 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 4: Gucci? 55 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 8: Man? 56 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 4: It's Gucci. 57 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: Happy to be not strangers and controversies at all. 58 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 59 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 9: We tend to get in trouble. We we weave in 60 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 9: and out of trouble. But that's all right. We love 61 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 9: this game. 62 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, the dudes, I know we've been trying to give 63 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 5: you all for a minute. Man, was this last year? 64 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: Last year? 65 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 4: Man? 66 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 7: Literally a year ago around this time, we were trying 67 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 7: to make it happen. 68 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: You know. 69 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, schedules just was crazy. It just was not a line. 70 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 5: But I'm glad we finally got you all on board, 71 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 5: like for sure. 72 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: Man. 73 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 5: Uh so this controversy talking about like what's the biggest 74 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 5: thing y'all? Y'all y'all faced, Like. 75 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, drink to that ship. 76 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 9: What we had we had, The Call of Three is 77 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 9: not a classic album. 78 00:03:58,480 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: We had. 79 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 9: The most recent one was Outcast would lose the clips 80 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 9: and the versus we had. We had the unpopular opinion 81 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 9: that that nineties hip hop makes it impossible for any 82 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 9: other era to really succeed because the ball was too high. 83 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 7: We've got a few I gotta I gotta go back 84 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 7: and check them out. But we had a few. 85 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: Yeah that's un or some heat, you know. 86 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 9: But at the end of the day, everything is within 87 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 9: the guise of a music argument. 88 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 7: We're not here to be shot jocks. 89 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 9: We just feel like when it comes to music, especially 90 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 9: the balls hip hop shit, if we're not talking about that, 91 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 9: then what we're talking about. 92 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: You know, right right, that's dope. 93 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so so real quick, man, before we get 94 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: into everything, man, just kind of get people to run 95 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: down to where they can find. 96 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: You guys, so they can make sure that they keep 97 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: up with it. 98 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 9: The tapes, of course, follow us on Twitter, Rap Round 99 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 9: Table PC. That's what we get in the most trouble, 100 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 9: all of our pods on YouTube, the Rap Round Table. 101 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 9: Subscribe to the Rap Round Table on YouTube. You know, 102 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 9: we're a lot more team on the YouTube. Every now 103 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 9: and again. Twitter, you gotta shake the table. So Twitter 104 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 9: is when we get in the most trouble. But then 105 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 9: once you watch the podle realize that, you. 106 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 7: Know, we support our arguments on Twitter with the podcast, 107 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 7: so log in to us over there. 108 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, for everybody watching, man, the super chats are now on, 109 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: so if you have you know, any predictions, any albums 110 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: that you're looking for, to thoughts on Jake Cole, because 111 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: Jake Cole just dropped, so we'll definitely cover that. We 112 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: actually just recorded a first thoughts about that before we 113 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: did the live, so we'll have a full, more in 114 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: depth conversation on the way on the channel as well. 115 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: But we definitely want to get Jarvin Deni's takes. 116 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: On that and joining us later will be mace from 117 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: them as well, So just be on the lookout if 118 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: you see a third person pop up. Man, I gotta 119 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, I got a quick question, man, who who 120 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: Who's the one that says. 121 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: The most controversial stuff? Who is the guy? 122 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 4: It might be? It might be huge job. 123 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 9: I don't know, you know, I think it depends, like 124 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 9: it depends on the topic. When it comes to the 125 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 9: Ovio arguments and and and the the younger scale of 126 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 9: RAPO definitely gets us in trouble, you know, when it 127 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 9: comes to the opposite side. I'm the evil jay Z fan, 128 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 9: so I'll get us the trouble with some of the takes, 129 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 9: like in my and my anti Little Waye rhetoric, a 130 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 9: lot of times that we random way straights. That's me 131 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 9: Deani Dani, though he'll say the thing that will almost 132 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 9: get us canceled. He trying to pass it off for me. 133 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 9: But Dean he be the guy who teed his defense 134 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 9: from getting us canceled. That we have I will fourth member, 135 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 9: which is to say the rapsob. He can't be with 136 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 9: the snae on the clock say it is the rap snob. 137 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 9: He keeps us on deck. 138 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 7: Once we go through far to the left for the right, 139 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 7: he brings us back to the center. 140 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 3: I think I've just seen him in the comments. 141 00:06:58,920 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I said. 142 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 4: O'clock right now, or that's you'll be here on deck? 143 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 4: Where and what I see? 144 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 7: Good brothers, Brooklyn, Harlem, b X queens, you know what 145 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 7: I mean? 146 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 4: All over the place? 147 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 5: Man, Are y'all in the same place now though, like 148 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 5: like y'all have a location where y'all feel together or 149 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 5: y'all all this like virtual too. 150 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 9: We stream in studio every other week, so every like 151 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 9: this Friday, in fact, we go to our studio, so 152 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 9: when we drop on Wednesdays, that's our in studio form 153 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 9: that we do. 154 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 7: Anything else. We stream from different locations. 155 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: Got you, so, where where is the where's the one location? 156 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 7: Brooklyn? I know, it's like North Brooklyn, so like the 157 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 7: Uptown Cats, they don't got to travel too far to 158 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 7: get there, you know what I mean. 159 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: You used to all the way on the. 160 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 7: Opposite end of Brooklyn, Queens, but now we're in a 161 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 7: good spot for everybody to connect. 162 00:07:58,600 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: That's what's up, man. 163 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 10: Yeah, that's all right, man. 164 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: Well let's go ahead and get into it. Man. 165 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about uh, you know, the show I 166 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: called Frode yesterday kind of pitching him a version of 167 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: this idea, and so I think it's just great that 168 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: the timing worked just just by just to the. 169 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: Point where you guys can be on. So I'm glad 170 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: it worked out. 171 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, man, let's let's kind of talk about kind 172 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: of the state of hip. 173 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: Hop where we are right. 174 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: You know, everybody got have a state of the hip 175 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: hop culture conversation, uh. 176 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: You know, artists, you know, to watch albums. 177 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: And you know, any moments that we're looking for, and 178 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: and then we'll just close out with some just you know, 179 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: everyday conversation and stuff, uh, and then other things that 180 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: we may be watching, you know, for the rest of 181 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: the year. So so starting out, man, there's a lot 182 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: going on right now. You know, there's a lot of 183 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: conversation about hip hop. Last year, you know, we had 184 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: the clips who pretty much owned the year. Right after 185 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, the famous Kendrick and Drake situation that went down. 186 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: Hip hop fell off the top, fell off the charts. 187 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of fragmentation going on, a lot 188 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: of conversations about where where hip hop alongs, et cetera, 189 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: et cetera. We got algorithms going on, we got albums 190 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: and moments, personalities. 191 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: A lot happening right now. 192 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: So what do you guys think, man, Like, what phase 193 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: do you think we're in with hip hop? What do 194 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: you guys? What are your thoughts on where hip hop 195 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: is right now? Heading into. 196 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 4: You go ahead, Dan, I think I think it's in 197 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 4: a good place, man. 198 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 6: I think we're in a we're in a realm of anticipation, 199 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 6: Like we haven't been this excited, whether for good or 200 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 6: bad albums coming out in the year. 201 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 4: So I think between like the. 202 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 6: Jay Cole the Drake, there's a lot of anticipation, there's 203 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 6: a lot of questioning, there's a lot of the trepidation, 204 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,599 Speaker 6: there's a lot of just everything when it comes to 205 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 6: these albums. And I feel like we haven't had that 206 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 6: for a really long time, where we're just pressing on 207 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 6: the albums, saying when is this. 208 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 4: Album gonna come out? Blah blah blah. So I think 209 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 4: anticipation is great. 210 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 6: I think it's I think the Ladies are gonna have 211 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 6: like a crazy impact this year. I think the Ladies 212 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 6: are gonna step it up this year. Shout out to Doci. 213 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 6: I love the energy that she's bringing. 214 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 4: I think I think I think when you take into 215 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 4: a into account, we're kind of more on the end 216 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 4: of the Kendrick Drake thing. 217 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 6: It's it's it's still lingers, you know, but it's it's 218 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 6: not hitting us to death like it was in the 219 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 6: earlier part of the year. I think people are like, 220 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 6: we can come outside now, the decks are kind of cleared, 221 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 6: People can be more free to make music. 222 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 4: The listening space is more open now. 223 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: I think. 224 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 4: I think beautiful things they hear to come. 225 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 6: Man, I have a lot of faith in twenty twenty 226 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 6: six after coming out of twenty twenty five. 227 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 9: I think hip hop is in a tricky spot because 228 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 9: there's a clear the vibe between the culture itself and 229 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 9: then like the mainstream side of it, there's no like 230 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 9: definitive sound. As far as mainstream goes, you have a 231 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 9: lot of guys that's on the underground or ors we 232 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 9: like to call it the overground because they's too popular 233 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 9: to be considered underground, who are having a strong presence 234 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 9: lyricism is being pushed to the forefront. But then all 235 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 9: of the people who are on the mainstream side a 236 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,599 Speaker 9: screaming that hip hop is dead. So I feel like 237 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 9: there's a there's a conflict because people are having a 238 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 9: bit of a tug of war between what they want 239 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 9: it to be. I prefer that the overground casts to 240 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 9: continue to get the love and get pushed. 241 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 7: Up more so to the forefront as opposed to the bs. 242 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 9: We've been here and I think, you know, I know 243 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 9: you guys are from Georgia, Atlanta. Atlanta's having a tricky 244 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 9: time right now sonically as far as like what is 245 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 9: the next thing? You know, because for a cool twenty 246 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 9: years that city has dominated the space. We got to 247 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 9: call it what it is, even if New York iss 248 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 9: it hurts me to say it, but they've dominated the space. 249 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 9: What is the sound though? Where is it gonna come from? 250 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 9: Is it gonna be a New York thing. Is it 251 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 9: the West Kendrick had a great run, but there was 252 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 9: no West Coast run behind that that dictated the terms 253 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 9: the New York overground scene. They're continuing to matriculate, putting 254 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 9: out projects. They're not dominating Georgia, Atlanta, Memphis. You might 255 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 9: say Memphis is doing some things, but overall there's no 256 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 9: overarching dominant sound. So I'm curious to see what the 257 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 9: twenty twenty six hold. Is it gonna be more of 258 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 9: the same. Are the guys that's coming out gonna create 259 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 9: something new? We had Metro trying to bring back a 260 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 9: bit of that futuristic energy the late the latter half 261 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 9: of twenty twenty five. I like the project, but it 262 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 9: seemed like that kind of split the room as well. 263 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 9: So I think twenty twenty six is another I would 264 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 9: say transitional year with some big releases. 265 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 7: I don't mind the regionality. I'd rather New York sound 266 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 7: in New York, Atlanta sound like Atlanta, Memphis and Memphis, 267 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 7: Texas and Texas, La, so on and so forth. 268 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 9: But what is gonna be the dominant thing? And I 269 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 9: think that's a very important question we gotta figure out 270 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 9: this year. 271 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: Why is it important? Though? 272 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 7: Like I don't think dominance is important. I think because 273 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,599 Speaker 7: I think dominance segregates. Dominance doesn't necessarily allow people to 274 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 7: come together because now it's, oh, well, this is the 275 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 7: hot thing. That's the hot thing, and then everybody tries 276 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 7: to jump on it, which is partly why hip hop 277 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 7: has sounded the same and had the Atlanta roots in it. 278 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 4: For the last twenty almost thirty years. 279 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 7: Now, my thing is this, right, Like, twenty twenty five 280 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 7: for me, the way I look at it was like 281 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 7: year of the Beef, you know what I'm saying, whether 282 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 7: it was manufactured or it was real or whatever. Right, 283 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 7: So like we saw Joey Badass thought off the year 284 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 7: where Ray Vaughn and we saw like all of that 285 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 7: type of stuff, right like, and just other people then 286 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 7: in Kuavo and Chris Brown, they like they had songs. 287 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 7: So like for me, twenty twenty five was the year 288 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 7: of the Beef. Where I'm seeing twenty twenty six, I 289 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 7: feel like hip hop it's in its own separate bubbles 290 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 7: right now, right and I think that hip hop I 291 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 7: don't disagree with you, Jarv where you know, we're in 292 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 7: a transformative year, but in a sense that the regionality 293 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 7: I feel like it's coming back to a degree. And 294 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 7: I also feel that, you know, and this is big 295 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 7: coming for me. I don't think I think radio is 296 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 7: always gonna have his place, But I love the fact 297 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 7: that I don't think that artists are trying to make 298 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 7: quote unquote radio hits for the most part, the majority 299 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 7: of not the glorillas and you know, supermarketable people. Of course, 300 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 7: you know, that's how they eat, that's. 301 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 4: How they live. 302 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 7: Okay, cool, But when we talk about you know, the 303 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 7: impacts of the grizelle, those the currencies, the Larry Jones. 304 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 4: Bad bad, not good. 305 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, like we could go like 306 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 7: the Jazzy Like everybody is just kind of like cultivating 307 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 7: their own fan base, even when we had uh uh 308 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 7: the waters well buddy for Big Jenkins, you know what 309 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 7: I'm saying, Like, well, mc Jenkins was talking about like, 310 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 7: you know, doing uh listening sessions, you know, for like 311 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 7: for his fan base. So you look at the Russell. 312 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 7: You look at all of these little bubbles that are 313 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 7: popping up. Whether they collide and create one bigger bubble, cool, 314 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 7: If they're not, they just separate, they're just floating out 315 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 7: through there. I think that That's how I'm looking at 316 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 7: twenty twenty six. I think everybody within their own little 317 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 7: bubble is just trying to expand that bubble. Bro And 318 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 7: to me, that's the most beautiful thing in hip hop 319 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 7: because we got to take the power back, Like we 320 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 7: can't continue to give the power to the entities, you 321 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. So we got to get more 322 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 7: direct to consumer direct like that. And I think that 323 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 7: a lot of these hip hop artists I'm not going 324 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 7: to say like the youngins, but obviously younger than me. 325 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 7: I think in their twenties and stuff like that. They're 326 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 7: just smarter business people now because the tools are there, 327 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 7: right and I see them utilizing that. So for me, 328 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 7: twenty twenty six is about expanding your bubble. 329 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: You know. 330 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 9: I guess just for the second clarity, when I talk 331 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 9: about the dominant sound, it's because from my entry into this, 332 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 9: there's always been like a particular thing that has dominated 333 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 9: rat we've had are the artists who have cooked, don't 334 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 9: get me wrong, But from now I would say maybe, 335 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 9: like for me, memories started to really build around ninety two, 336 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 9: you always had something that was going on that was 337 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 9: at the tip for the food chain. 338 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 7: Then you have off the things propagatd beneath it. 339 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 4: I said, right there that. 340 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 7: Way, let me pause you right there ninety two Right, 341 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 7: so we got Biggie pop and they sounded light and 342 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 7: they dominated. So what was the dominant sound? 343 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 6: Well, pop sound wasn't the dominated sound though like pop 344 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 6: units though he talking about the sound like like like 345 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 6: he was saying, like it's like like the drake sound 346 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 6: right now, that sound that sings songy melodic sound with 347 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 6: the song that's dominated kind of last ten fifteen years, 348 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 6: you know, but now it's on this way out like 349 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 6: Biggie ship was more like the dominant sound of the 350 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 6: two of like there was how many people dropping like pop, 351 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 6: you know, as. 352 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: There was a lot of there was a lot more 353 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: pop clones after the fact. 354 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 4: Okay, I get that, I gat that. 355 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 7: I get that the dominant sound might not have been 356 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 7: a sonic but like early nineties, nineties, late nineties, give it, 357 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 7: what's the thing like boom boom, that. 358 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 4: Was the sound boom the sound. I give you that. 359 00:16:58,480 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 4: I give you that. 360 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 7: I feel what you're saying. 361 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 9: Even within that you still had your boot camps and 362 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 9: then you had your bad boys, but they still had 363 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 9: lyrics that was driving the vehicle. 364 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah mm hmmm. So I mean. 365 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: No, no, no, you got it, you got it. 366 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: So so we don't have a signature sound in hip 367 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: hop right now from from your perspective. And Drake at 368 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: one point created a bunch of clones and now that 369 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: that's no longer popular since he got his ass, Well, 370 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: do you want to run away from that? 371 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: You know? 372 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: I think when you look at where we are or 373 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: what we're coming from, you know, I think that we're 374 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: we're going to a state of independence where it's not 375 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: about having one particular dominant sound in hip hop. You know, 376 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: it's it's we could be more than likely entering a 377 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: creative phase. When we were having a conversation about hip 378 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: hop not being on the charts, one of the things 379 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: that you know, I was talking about is like we're 380 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: probably just going back to the way it was, you know, 381 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 1: where it just belonged to us and we enjoyed it 382 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: and we didn't need all of the outside forces and 383 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: people coming in and you know, the culture vultures just 384 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: participating in the bouncing when they when they got what 385 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: they needed out of it. 386 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, like maybe post alone, I think Jack 387 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 2: Marlow's here right now, and a couple of other guys 388 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 2: to just come in and do what they need to 389 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: do and then they get out of here. So I 390 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: like where we are. 391 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: You know, we're moving into something that's creative and it'll 392 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: be interesting to see what happens. 393 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 2: Moving forward with this year. 394 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: I mean one of the things that Jaylor, one of 395 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: the producers for the other shows, is that and and 396 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: other people say this, but there's something for everybody, you know, 397 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: so you can and in that perspective, that's why everybody 398 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: talk about, oh yeah, hip hop's in a good place. 399 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: I'm the negative one around the show. 400 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 7: You know, hip hop's in a good place. I think 401 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 7: last year, I think the business of Wrath is in 402 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 7: a bad place where hip hop is in a great place. 403 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: I think hip hop is flying now, you know. 404 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm talking about when when they say 405 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: it every year, they've been saying this every year for 406 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: the last ten years. 407 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 4: And can't but cat but can't. 408 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 7: But every year we're getting like a handful of projects 409 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 7: that's just like yo, Like this ship is like tier one. 410 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 7: This ship is like great. Hey, Like you know what 411 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 7: I'm saying, Like think think about a cat like first 412 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 7: and foremost, we do D three sixty five. So we 413 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 7: listened to hell of fucking music, whether it's new or 414 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 7: slightly older or even older right like for some of 415 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 7: the records. 416 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, we also did I shop on last year. I 417 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: should on last year. 418 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 7: You're saying, you're saying that hip hop, you're saying that 419 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 7: hip hop is not in a good place. I don't know. 420 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 7: I was not, That's what I'm saying. 421 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: I think we're. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. I think that 422 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: was misunderstood. You're just talking about obvious years. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 423 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: which is why I didn't ship on last year because 424 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: I felt like last year wasn't good. 425 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 2: There's anybody to do it would have been me, right, 426 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 2: So uh but no. 427 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: I think we're I think we're We're in this creative 428 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: phase right now where people can go out there and 429 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: make the type of music they want to the fans 430 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: that likes to consume it, and have a sustainable career 431 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: from it. And it's gonna be interesting to see how 432 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: businesses react to that, because or or the streaming streaming 433 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: companies react to that when they can no longer dip 434 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: in the pocket. So so Atlanta not dominating or having 435 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: a signature sound. 436 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: I think it's fine, but you know it's gonna be 437 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 2: back on top man. Atlanta always has something. 438 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 9: That would have surprised me because at the end of 439 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 9: the day, like I feel like, yes, City, even if 440 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 9: I do get mad, y'all do a bit of job 441 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 9: of evolving everything you know, and the sonics speak to 442 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 9: that everything nature, and I think that's a good thing. 443 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 9: Even like the early runs. I love the t YA waves, 444 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 9: I love the g Z waves. Like we was up here, 445 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 9: there's a lot of guys that was yelling about we 446 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 9: wanted to come back, but then you walk by the 447 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 9: card it was blast and jeezy, you know what I mean. 448 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 9: So at the end of the day, I think, like 449 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 9: I think New York has become kind of niche in 450 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 9: they sound. I don't think that what we do best 451 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 9: right now can travel far. That's just the fact that 452 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 9: the mask. 453 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 7: You know, what you'all issue is bro and like this 454 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 7: has been this has been New York's issue for a minute. 455 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 7: And the reason why Atlanta surpassed you so many years 456 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 7: ago is because collaborations. You know what I'm saying, Like 457 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 7: that's a narrative that's not necessarily. 458 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 4: I kind of agree with him on that. I kind 459 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 4: of do. 460 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: When you say collaborations, what. 461 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: You mean together. 462 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 7: So so yeah, working together. There's no reason. There's no 463 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 7: reason why Funk flex it on Griselda two times, like 464 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 7: like like like that's that's New York putting on for 465 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 7: New York, bro, and like that's a big miss. It's 466 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 7: also a big miss when I'm looking at all of 467 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 7: these you know, New York artists that have a newer sound, 468 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 7: and y'all not collaborate with Griselda, Like why doesn't Cardi 469 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 7: b have any real gritty, gutty you know what I'm 470 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 7: saying type of features on the project? You know what 471 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 7: I'm saying, like like like those are the type of 472 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 7: things because you know, let me let me count that 473 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 7: before you continue. Why does she need to because because 474 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 7: the sonics of New York, it's so big, the city 475 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 7: is so big to it, Cardy don't necessarily need to 476 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 7: work with Griselda and Grizela don't necessarily need and and 477 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 7: that's and that's your issue, don't know what No no, no, no, no, 478 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 7: no no no no, it's your mentality. No no, because 479 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 7: because you're thinking New York, no no, No, I'm talking. 480 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 4: You're talking to New York. I'm talking New York. Listen, 481 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 4: but listen. 482 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 7: But but your mindset, your mindset around this quest shit 483 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 7: is like I'm talking, I'm talking hip hop like back 484 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 7: in the day, right like jay Z. Jay Z collabed 485 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 7: with all of them down South cast Say what happened 486 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 7: to jay He blew up as the biggest hip hop 487 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 7: artist out of New York. Why it wasn't just because 488 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 7: he was collabing just with New York. Is because he 489 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 7: collaborate hip hop And that's what we already beat it 490 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 7: jay Z, right, Like, hold on, that's crazy. Wait a second, 491 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 7: Wait a second, Like that's what I'm saying. Let's let's 492 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 7: let's drop slow the car down just a second. Cardis 493 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 7: signature sound on her way? She you gond argue, she's 494 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 7: in Atlanta artists, Let's call it what it is. 495 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 9: Game like, we gotta start there, like she don't make 496 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 9: New York rap per se. And the over archer point 497 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 9: is inside of New York City. I know you say, 498 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 9: we think about New York, but we're talking about hip hop. 499 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 7: You gotta you gotta get out of New York before 500 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 7: you get to the rest of hip hop. And the 501 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 7: problem with New York is is that within the five 502 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 7: boroughs and then you got the outskirts and you got 503 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 7: now Griselda, so on and so forth, Like there's no 504 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 7: there's no kids listening to Conway, the younger people. Like 505 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 7: when I was eighteen, I was listening in the boom Bat, 506 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 7: So there was kind of a universal thing that we 507 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 7: was locking into. Now in New York you got the. 508 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 9: Young drillers, you got the sexy drillers. You gotta waive that. 509 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 9: I don't even know what to describe it as. Then 510 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 9: you still have not legit like what's homie name Dan 511 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 9: that makes it always talked about but Mascon don't have 512 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 9: to ask him. 513 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 7: But it's like there's an artist right now who's like 514 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 7: Zeddi Will. Zeddi Will don't make drill. He's not a 515 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 7: street dude, but his wave is popping right now. I 516 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 7: don't even know what the label that asks, but he's popping. 517 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: He's from the city. 518 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 9: But then you still have the older cats like us 519 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 9: that listen to the Griseldas of the world and the 520 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 9: Ranisms of the world. 521 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 7: We got y'all have room streets on room streets home team, 522 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 7: but were listening to the rooms. There's like so much 523 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 7: different sounds within the city to where it's like it's 524 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 7: hard to really like, all right, what is the New 525 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 7: York sound? People on the outside would say were still 526 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 7: doing boom back, But then the resident of New York 527 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 7: is to tell you it's it's it's a demographic thing, 528 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 7: you know what I mean, And that's difficult to deal 529 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 7: with when you have variant defographics. 530 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 9: But then you have the people who are in charge 531 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 9: of what you hear. We saw what happened with Ebro recently. 532 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 7: Ebro been in a position how many years he's not 533 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 7: even from New York from flexes in position he's from 534 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 7: New York. With Flex. Everyone will tell you rappers who 535 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 7: are veteran rappers who so rugulars to tell you Flex 536 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 7: has been a pain in the ass his entire existence. 537 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 9: But you gotta deal with Flex. We don't have a 538 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 9: clue anymore. And he's a radio guy. Now we don't 539 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 9: even have the outlets we used to have. 540 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 7: So like the game in the city is so convoluted, 541 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 7: and there's a lot of opinions about what it should 542 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 7: be and what it could be. It ain't that you know, 543 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 7: what I'm saying, I. 544 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 3: Personally don't want to hear Cardi and Griselda. 545 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 4: To be quite honest, nobody will. I mean, she went, 546 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 4: she went to drive out. 547 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 6: She did some joints with k Flock and his and 548 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 6: his crew, so she went to drive out. You know, 549 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 6: she did the no flocking joint when she did so, 550 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 6: she went her southern route. She I just hate the 551 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 6: factors and Cardi be as the measuring stick for rappers, 552 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 6: like you know what, I understand where you was coming from, 553 00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 6: but we can do a lot better than just. 554 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 4: We had no one hundred percent. 555 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: Look, she go take it from us. 556 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 7: I threw Cardy's name out there just because she's one 557 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 7: of the most popular people from your city, right right, 558 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 7: So that's the only reason why I threw out there. 559 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 7: And I'm also just saying that, like from a standpoint 560 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 7: of the collaboration, you know what I'm saying, Like, like 561 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 7: I feel like New York artists, for the most part, 562 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 7: don't collaborate like Atlanta artists. Then when they when they 563 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 7: took over like that, that was that was the secret sauce, 564 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 7: is that everybody in Atlanta collaborated with each other, and 565 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 7: they collaborated with everybody outside of Atlanta too, and that's 566 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 7: how it cultivated the sound that was that was up 567 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 7: until like a couple of months every pop in New 568 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 7: York acts stepped outside of New York at the business though, 569 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 7: let's not act like that wasn't taking place, Okay, But. 570 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, what y'all think rock gonna 571 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 5: do with New York? Think what he about to do? 572 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 2: I think. 573 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 6: I think nigga just beat a gun charge man, niggas free. 574 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 6: He got two kids, three kids with Rihanna. I think 575 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 6: life is beautiful. I expect the music to be beautiful too, 576 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. And I expecting groundbreaking lyricism 577 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 6: from Asap Rocky No, but I expect him to get 578 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 6: a room shaken. And I feel like when you do 579 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 6: what you're good at, good things will follow, you know. 580 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just saying because he's from New York and 581 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 5: now I know y'all talking about New York like he 582 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 5: would like revive it some way. 583 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 4: Because his sound was never in New York. 584 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 9: When he first got on the scene, where he really 585 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 9: could have made things happen for the city, but then 586 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 9: it just didn't quite go. 587 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 7: To I think he immediately once what was that song? 588 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 7: Like fucking problems that record? 589 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 9: Right, he kind of veered away from what got him 590 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 9: lit in the first place, and then the conversations around 591 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 9: him started to change and he never really got back 592 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 9: to that energy. But when he first came on the scene, 593 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 9: we was rocking with a sad you know what I mean. 594 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 2: We liked it. 595 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 9: He liked that he was rocking with you because at 596 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 9: that point we was fully entrenching a completely different sound 597 00:27:54,680 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 9: in the city. 598 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 6: Of the New York And he didn't. He was just 599 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 6: he was a soho. He was a haller nigga, but 600 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 6: he chilled him so who you know. So when everybody 601 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 6: was on their baggy shit, he was on like the 602 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 6: extra slimmy geens. So he just had a different style 603 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 6: about himself, you know. Back in the days, that's what 604 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 6: hip hop was about. That nigga that just set the trends, 605 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 6: did everything different. He just happened to be a great 606 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 6: rapper along with it, you know. So definitely said trends 607 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 6: in the city. 608 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 9: And I think the biggest live about New York is 609 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 9: that like there was like uniformity, like inside the city, 610 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 9: there's no connections. 611 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 7: You got Brooklyn. You got Quee's, you got Hall, you 612 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 7: got the Bronx. 613 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 9: The music might sound similar, but this little war is 614 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 9: happening in each borough. So it's like once once the 615 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 9: shaan got off of us and it vid out of 616 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 9: the city, that disconnect got very loud, you know what 617 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 9: I mean. And I think that makes the most sense here. 618 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you think that rapper great? All right? 619 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 4: We hear, we hear, great rapper? What is our bargo? 620 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 4: You know That's what I'm saying. 621 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 6: He makes great songs, he makes great music, you know, 622 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,239 Speaker 6: but he had when I had a great rap, I'm like, 623 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 6: I'm like, is he blacked up? You know what I'm saying, Like, No, 624 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 6: but I don't. I don't expect that from him, and 625 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 6: I feel like holding that expectation on him. 626 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 4: This kind of way. We lose balanced a lot of times. 627 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's that's not his thing. Yeah, we had 628 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: a we had a pretty pretty rough start with what 629 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: you got wrong? 630 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I think I said even that 631 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 5: even at this age and at this statement, I think 632 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 5: Ja can still bring some light to some artists on 633 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 5: in New York. I think if he was to drop 634 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 5: and put you know, like like a Makami or a 635 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 5: Ransom and people like that on this album. 636 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 3: I think that's a better, better. 637 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 5: Catapult than a cart I think even at this point 638 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 5: of his career, I think people are gonna still pay attention, 639 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 5: right if j J popped up on an album, imagine 640 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 5: Jay popping up with an album with it'll do him 641 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 5: some good. 642 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 3: And the people that that he has on. 643 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 5: It, Like I said, the ramsos in the world, the 644 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 5: wrong streets, the all of those guys that we herald 645 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 5: in the independent underground scene. I think that would be 646 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 5: a great opportunity, uh for Jay to say some on him, 647 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 5: because I think he missed that opportunity when he was 648 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 5: really on the com ump to to bring some light 649 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 5: to some New York artists or whatever I mean, because 650 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 5: he was trying to be the biggest guy in New 651 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 5: York Kingdom New York. That was a whole thing back 652 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 5: in the day. So man, I just really wish he 653 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 5: would do something like that. I think that, But why 654 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 5: would he? 655 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 7: Though, like, that's never been his m O. 656 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 3: That's that's my point. It's never been his MO. 657 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 9: But I think that, if memory serves me right, with 658 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 9: Griselda was on a great assent there was a rock 659 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 9: Nation affiliation. 660 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,959 Speaker 7: I think you think Nation. Those are the only cats, 661 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 7: those are the only cats that that before and Grizelda 662 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 7: already had like a. 663 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 4: Little bit of a wave. 664 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 7: But outside of that, like everybody else that Jay has 665 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 7: ever collaborate outside of reasonable doubt, right, because those were 666 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 7: a lot of the. 667 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: Whole Do that he collaborated with m O P. You mean, but. 668 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 7: But m P already had like a footing, like like 669 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 7: there was nobody, no, no, no. What what I'm saying 670 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 7: is is that jay Z always worked with somebody that 671 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 7: was relatively established. They wasn't always necessarily bigger than him 672 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 7: or even on the same level, but they had a name. 673 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 4: MP had a name, UGK had. 674 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 9: A name, had a name Rest in peace big L. 675 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 9: Big L was sign run the same time, obs dropping 676 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 9: reasonable the fact. 677 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 7: But that's the reason why I sat around reasonable doubt. 678 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 7: Let's exclude that, exclude reasonable doubt, right, That's what put 679 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 7: him on the map. So after that, once j was 680 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 7: on the essension of becoming one of the biggest rappers, 681 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 7: that he didn't put on people. Everybody had a name 682 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 7: to a degree already not saying that Jay didn't blow 683 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 7: him up and make him bigger because j was. 684 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 4: Bigger, but bro like m P had a name name. 685 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 7: So that's different. That's different that that was on label 686 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 7: execs ship. That wasn't like you on what I'm saying 687 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 7: at the time, during that prime era of jay Z, 688 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 7: you look around New York City, He's not gonna pull 689 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 7: up some queens. 690 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 9: Dude, we really knew what the static was. There was 691 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 9: already a wit there was. There was real static in 692 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 9: the bronx he had. There was real issues once upon 693 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 9: a time. It was in the city. The city. It 694 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 9: might seem like we're in New York City, but it's 695 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 9: really five boroughs for really no just the Staten Island. 696 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,239 Speaker 9: They really belonged in New Jersey. But nevertheless, he had 697 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 9: real issues with Terror Squad. Like only Skiky ship you 698 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 9: see with Fat Joe Now that just happened. They had 699 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 9: real statics him. M Cameron was always on some little 700 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 9: big bro, little bro ship and we see how to 701 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 9: happen when he got signed the rock to you know 702 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 9: what I mean? All right, hold on, So when you 703 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 9: look around the city, the only guys that he had 704 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 9: real connects with was was Locks. 705 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 7: Locks was the only guys that was ruling across that 706 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 7: he still did this with them, you mean like him 707 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 7: and you worked with them. But but the s when 708 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 7: Jay said, when Jay said, I don't drive X five 709 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 7: were given the baby mambas. That was because Jadakin has 710 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 7: just bought a brand new X five and he was 711 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 7: driving around and it was just a Jada And that's 712 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 7: a competition. 713 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 9: Like, that's what they was doing during that time, and 714 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 9: we got one of the greatest battles in rap history 715 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 9: because of that. 716 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 7: We don't get beans versus kiss without that, you know 717 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 7: what I mean, their dog But. 718 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 6: Basically when they when he wanted them to do the 719 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 6: Reservo dog drink, they wanted to drop off their bags. 720 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 4: That I know. I know the story. He wanted them 721 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 4: to come. That's why he said, I don't give a 722 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 4: funk who you are, so yes, and that's. 723 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 7: Why Styles went right at him. I knowed I'm one 724 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 7: of the biggest Jays. That's not from New York, bro, 725 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 7: I just get it. I'm just saying that that New 726 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 7: York has been divisive and that's been part of their issue. 727 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 9: From so you who would he have brought up like 728 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 9: give us all this in like ninety eight, ninety nine, 729 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 9: that Jay should have stood next to at the peak 730 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 9: of his popularity to bring up with him from New 731 00:33:58,920 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 9: York City. 732 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,479 Speaker 4: He got on his joint, he did. 733 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 7: But that was that was, you know, doing his thing. 734 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 6: He was on the record, was on the album bro 735 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 6: on a major on a major hit for if you 736 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 6: give you, I give you, I give you, John. 737 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 7: But you got somebody your mind, I know you do. 738 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 7: Who are you thinking? 739 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 2: Real quick? I had to interrupt. 740 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 4: That's my type of conversation, like, Yo, what's the worrd? 741 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 3: Y'all came middle the fire? 742 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, go on, how y'all feeling for years? 743 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 11: Man, it's time to be up here with y'all. 744 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. 745 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: Bro glad man, glad you were able to have some 746 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: time to come chop it over with some old head. 747 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 2: Well me. 748 00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: Broke. But I didn't bring it up to talk about 749 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 3: the days of the past or whatever. 750 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 5: I was just saying that I think that would be 751 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 5: a good opportunity for him to do what he didn't 752 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 5: necessarily do back in the day. I think I think 753 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 5: he has a prime opportunity, especially with so many talented 754 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 5: New York artists, to. 755 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 3: Share some light. 756 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 4: Now you're right, V. 757 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 5: He is affiliated with a lot, even my comedy right, Like, 758 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 5: he is affiliated with a lot of these guys. So 759 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 5: I think to even taking a step further with putting 760 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 5: them as features or doing songs with him or whatever. 761 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 5: I think that could, like I said, calipolt the New 762 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 5: York scene again, you know what, and get people talking 763 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 5: about it, you know. And and yeah, just to get 764 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 5: add my two cents on what the initial question was, 765 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,959 Speaker 5: I pretty much agree with you guys for the most part. 766 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 5: Where it is a lot of individuality going on right 767 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 5: now hip hop, which I think is which is which 768 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 5: is good. 769 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 3: I don't think it needs to be like a dominant thing. 770 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 5: And I think because of that, you know, like I said, 771 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 5: people are artists are getting creative with how you know, 772 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 5: they make their money, how they get their their views 773 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 5: and streams up. 774 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 3: And I think that's. 775 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 5: Scary to the you know, the record execs, which is 776 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 5: I probably have this surgeons of AI right because they 777 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 5: can't control the humans anymore, they can't control artists like 778 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 5: that anymore. They're getting out their deals, they stand out 779 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 5: of their deals, and so now I think that's probably 780 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 5: a main push for the AI artists right now because 781 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 5: they can control that, right and they can get you know, 782 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 5: get those streaming numbers up, and it can make them 783 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 5: popular and things. 784 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 3: So I like the I. 785 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 5: Think there needs to be a renaissance And I told 786 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 5: this to Mike Jenkins, like of artists just like you know, 787 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 5: creating their own bubbles and finding a way to cultivate 788 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 5: that and get you know, get their numbers up or whatever. 789 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 5: It may not be top charts or whatever, but fuck 790 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 5: the charts, you know what I'm saying. Long as you're 791 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 5: getting your money, loon's, youre getting your paper. I think 792 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 5: that's what people minds need to be. I think there's 793 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 5: a lot of smoking mirrors when it comes to these charges. 794 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 5: We see it, right, people got bots, all kinds of stuff. 795 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 5: So it's just a lot of smoking mirrors when it 796 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 5: comes to that Internet is your greatest tool right now 797 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 5: you can get it to anybody in the world, whereas 798 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 5: once before that wasn't the case. So yeah, I just 799 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 5: think it needs to didn't like and you're also talking 800 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 5: about the different sounds that are probably like Dochi has 801 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 5: our own sound? 802 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 3: And uh who else? Who else? 803 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 2: Yeah? 804 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 5: I had said somebody else, but yeah, that's that's one 805 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 5: of the main ones I was thinking about, Like you 806 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 5: have a doti and uh and uh and all these 807 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 5: other people living in the same at the same time. 808 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 3: So yeah, I pretty much agree with the individuality right now. 809 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Man, when you got oh, well, yeah, Mace, as 810 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: we get ready to transition, I got one more question 811 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: about the current state of hip hop and then we 812 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: can move on into artists, albums and some other stuff. 813 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: Mace, you just hopped on, Man, what are your what is? 814 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 2: What are your what's your thoughts on? 815 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: Like where we are right now coming off with twenty 816 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: twenty five and looking ahead. 817 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 12: Very much in a transitional period. But I think one 818 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 12: an upward, upward trend. I should say, you know, it's 819 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 12: it's no, it's no. 820 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 11: Uh. Everybody knows. 821 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 12: For the last bunch of years and hip hop we've 822 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 12: been we've been saying we wanted a new sound, we 823 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 12: want new energy. 824 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 3: You know. 825 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 12: I seen y'all having the New York conversation. Bring New 826 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 12: York back, bring lyricism back. That's been very much a 827 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 12: common theme. But it seems like a decade plus, right, 828 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 12: So I think it's very good that you know, we've 829 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 12: had the moment of artistry, the moment of people, you know, 830 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 12: wanting to put out good music, right, not just. 831 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 11: Wanting to charge. 832 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 12: You know, we had the Kendrick Drake moment that kind 833 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 12: of blew up the mainstream almost, right, So I think 834 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 12: it's good that we were having this moment where people 835 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 12: have a super emphasis on I don't want to just 836 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 12: say lyricism, right because I feel like that's a flat 837 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 12: blanket statement, but musicality, right, making great albums, songs that 838 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 12: stick with you, bringing back themes that resonate with the 839 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 12: with the common. 840 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 11: Person, right, I feel like that's that can be a 841 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 11: bad thing. 842 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 4: Right now. 843 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 12: I do think that we're very much in the like different. 844 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 11: You know, I've seen you guys having the conversation. 845 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,280 Speaker 12: We're very much in a different ecosystem moment in hip 846 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 12: we You know, for years people have said, why can't 847 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 12: hip hop be like rock and have different little subgenres, 848 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 12: And it's like that right now. And I feel that 849 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 12: because the mainstream ecosystem of hip hop is so down, 850 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 12: the numbers are down, the music is down. Like I've 851 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,479 Speaker 12: seen a viral thing where somebody showed that they said 852 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,760 Speaker 12: twenty one put out his worst album, gonna put out. 853 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 11: His worst album. 854 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 12: All of the people that kind of defined that mainstream sound, 855 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 12: which a lot of people were riding for the last 856 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 12: few years. You know, how many times did you hear 857 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 12: hip hop is the best selling genre. So that was 858 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 12: the thing that we kind of held sites to us. 859 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,919 Speaker 12: So I think that because the mainstream is in such 860 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 12: a downward trend. 861 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 11: It's still not where it needs to be. 862 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 12: Because I'm very much everybody loves the early nineties when 863 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 12: we had our you know, it was just for us 864 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 12: and we had our the culture was tight, and everything 865 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 12: was where we wanted it to be. But for me, 866 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 12: I still want to see, you know, hip hop has shine, right. 867 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 12: I still want to see you know, us dominating the charts. 868 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 12: I still want to see all of that as along 869 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 12: with the artistry, because I think we can do both. 870 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 11: I think we have artists that can balance both. 871 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 12: So I think that it's long overdue that people started 872 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,240 Speaker 12: wanting to make great music again, but. 873 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 11: Not at the at the you know, expense of all 874 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 11: of the business. I guess, I'll say, because I think 875 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 11: the mace what's happening. 876 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 7: So, but hip hop and R and B was still 877 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 7: the most consumed genre in music in twenty twenty five. 878 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 7: So even though we didn't dominate necessarily the charts, and 879 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 7: there are people like you said twenty one and some 880 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 7: of these other people that they albums wasn't what they 881 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 7: were supposed to be. It's not necessarily a bad thing, right. 882 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 7: If you go back to the song Overtime by Nipsey 883 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 7: Us on Mailbox Money, at the end, he talks about 884 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 7: like his he talks about like the pretty much the 885 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,959 Speaker 7: industry as we know crumbling and failing, and he talks 886 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 7: about having power or as an artist. You know what 887 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 7: I'm saying, are you direct to consumer? Do you own 888 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 7: your own do you own your masters? 889 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 4: Can you move? 890 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 7: And the people that you mentioned don't And that's why 891 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,959 Speaker 7: they're failing. That's the reason why it's gonna be hard 892 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 7: for them to continue to stay on the chart because 893 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 7: they don't have the power. They don't have power, and 894 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 7: that's the reason also Jarv that I was saying, like 895 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 7: I feel like hip hop is all in these separate 896 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 7: bubbles and the powers in the bubbles, bro is The 897 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 7: power is in your fan base. The power is in 898 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 7: how many people support you. The power is in when 899 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 7: I say, hey, I'm gonna have a listening party. 900 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 901 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 7: This weekend on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday night. Can I 902 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 7: get four hundred people into the studio within that weekend 903 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 7: as an artist and charge them money. That's where the 904 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 7: power is. It's it's not in the charts anymore. Like 905 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 7: like to me, and look, this is coming from the 906 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 7: guy on dere to hip hop that has always said 907 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 7: that we need balance, we need this, we need that. 908 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 7: This is like one of the first years that I'm like, 909 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 7: I don't give a fuck about the radio, bro, I 910 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 7: don't give a fuck about the charts. I don't give 911 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 7: a fuck about the Grammy. I don't give a fuck 912 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 7: about none of that. Because if I'm truly a fan 913 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 7: of you that's making good music, I'm. 914 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 4: Gonna find you. Bro. 915 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 9: Growing up, I guess for me like I'm always looking 916 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 9: at it. When I say, like the dominant sound to 917 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 9: go back to. 918 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 7: That conversation, just to bring it all together, I always 919 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 7: look at it from a perspective of what I want 920 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 7: as opposed to what it is. When I when I 921 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 7: take myself out of the equation I look at hip hop, 922 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 7: I'm like, all right, these are things that I listened to. 923 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 7: Like for instance, school Boy Q was one of my favorites. 924 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,240 Speaker 7: Push your Tea one of my favorites. 925 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 9: These guys are not dominating quote the charts or quote 926 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 9: the dominant sound, so I'm not looking for that from them. 927 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 9: But I notice people that I don't listen to, like 928 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 9: a Drake sorry may see though you know what I mean? 929 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,439 Speaker 9: And if you other quote popular acts, they control the scene. 930 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 9: And I look at every iteration of hip hop, every 931 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 9: version how we want to call it. This people who 932 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 9: is at the top outside with holes at the top 933 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 9: that I just don't listen to, and I can't control that. 934 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 7: It is what it is. So it's like I'm just 935 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 7: looking at those are the guys that's the top of 936 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 7: the food chain. Then you get the trickle down economics 937 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 7: and where do you land. That's how I look at it. 938 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,959 Speaker 7: That don't mean that I like it that way. That's 939 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 7: just how I look at it. 940 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 4: But isn't it but isn't it a good thing? Right? 941 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 7: And I think k Dot talked about burning everything down 942 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 7: and everything kind of growing back, right, Like, isn't it 943 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 7: a good thing that those people that we question, their love, 944 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 7: their acuben, they're all of these things right that that 945 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 7: it's kind of like anti hip hop, what we grew 946 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 7: up on. Isn't it good that they aren't as successful anymore? 947 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 7: That they're little by little exactly? So that's what we 948 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 7: are hip hop I want to I want to let 949 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 7: you know how much in lucks if I am with 950 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 7: you when it comes to that particular thing as far 951 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 7: as four hundred people when we talk about it on 952 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 7: our platform always saying that, and I MA Sito kind 953 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 7: of brought this to life for me. It's like, there's 954 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 7: a lot of guys who. 955 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 9: Move units quote unquote, they do great streaming numbers, but 956 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 9: then when it's time to sell tickets for concerts, they cannot. 957 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,479 Speaker 9: And I said, to my gods, I'm like, yo, look, 958 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 9: there's there's a clear delineation between the people shout out 959 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 9: and be a young boy who could pack out a 960 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 9: twenty thousand seater and make people move and make suit 961 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 9: shape and guys who get streaming numbers but nobody's really 962 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 9: jacking them. 963 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 7: So I'm with you with that. I want to see 964 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 7: who could put asides and cease. 965 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 9: I always said, I have to story here and I'll 966 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 9: bring it to you guys in your audience. I don't 967 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 9: even like the idea that it's so much so like 968 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 9: I put this album out and we can just stream it. 969 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 9: I want there to be like a three to four 970 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 9: week window where it's like, you gotta buy the album. 971 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 9: I want people to go back to that forcibly having 972 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 9: to save ten dollars or fifteen dollars to buy it out. 973 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 7: You can't just streaming the album music. 974 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 9: I want to see how many people said artists can 975 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,240 Speaker 9: get to drop fifteen dollars to buy the album. 976 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 7: You got four weeks, and after that four week window 977 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 7: you moving units. Then you release it the streamer, kind 978 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 7: of like what movies are doing, where it's like there's 979 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 7: a few three week window in the theaters before it 980 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 7: goes on to the DSPs, then it ends up on 981 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:49,280 Speaker 7: the cable networks. 982 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 9: I want that for music so we can really separate 983 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 9: who's who all these fake streaming numbers. The only way 984 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 9: we get to know who's really popping out here is 985 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 9: when it's concert time and you see it's maybe like 986 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 9: five artists, five rappers, maybe who could fill a right now. 987 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 7: So I think that is the best way to separate 988 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 7: the who's who and what's what. As we go on 989 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 7: in twenty twenty six and it's you. 990 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 12: Know, to mention Kendrick. Within you speaking about it, Kendrick 991 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 12: is like, that's what we aspire to be. Because it's 992 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 12: not necessarily that I'm saying, hey, let's bring back Gunner, 993 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 12: let's bring back twenty one, let's bring back But when 994 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 12: you mentioned a guy like Kendrick, that is what the 995 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 12: perfect balance of mainstream and musicality, you know what I mean. 996 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 12: I've seen you guys speaking about Doci. She has that ability, 997 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 12: you know what I mean? The shit we grew up on, 998 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 12: like it wasn't underground, you know what I mean? Or 999 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 12: not all of it, jay Z nas DMX Biggie, that 1000 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 12: wasn't underground. It was mainstream popular music that also was 1001 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,919 Speaker 12: able to reach the levels that we liked artistically. 1002 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 11: You know what I'm saying. 1003 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 12: And that's all I'm saying is that let's not just 1004 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 12: say fuck it all right, let's say, hey, let's bring 1005 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:50,800 Speaker 12: the two together. 1006 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: Do you guys think that the audience changing or I 1007 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 1: guess the question is, do you guys think the audience 1008 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,720 Speaker 1: is change more than the music? 1009 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,919 Speaker 2: MM, like what they're consuming, how they're consusing stuff. 1010 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 9: I'll say that because I worked in education for closer 1011 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 9: ten years and I saw like the kids taste change 1012 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 9: from when I first got in there twenty thirteen to 1013 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,760 Speaker 9: when I left out of there around twenty twenty four. Actually, 1014 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,439 Speaker 9: so I did more to Tams, you know what I mean, 1015 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 9: And like they change, like what they listened to and 1016 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 9: what they chase. They've been from loving Drake to more 1017 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 9: or less chasing something that's kind of niche or more underground. 1018 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 9: They're not The kids now are not chasing like the 1019 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 9: most popular artists. I feel like the popular code selling 1020 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 9: artists are being supported by people our age. I think 1021 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 9: the kids are looking for that TikTok artist or the 1022 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,399 Speaker 9: Instagram artists, or somebody that we just not logged into. 1023 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 9: I used to be at work seeing kids on YouTube 1024 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 9: looking at some kid with like a million views, real comments, 1025 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 9: no boxing, the comments popping. 1026 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 7: Then I won't hit a mace because he's the closest one. 1027 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 7: Today it's like yo, just got legit. Basically be like Yo, yeah, bro, 1028 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 7: he's popping out here in New York. He's doing his thing, 1029 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,839 Speaker 7: and it's like that's interesting. So these kids, so what. 1030 00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 2: You think about Jay Coleen? 1031 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 7: Now we're not. And then we listened to the k flock, 1032 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 7: like huh, who's k flock. I gotta go do the knowledge. 1033 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 9: I used to walk around the hallways hearing Big Drip 1034 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 9: bout five year four, and I don't knowho for our 1035 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 9: Big Drip For like three years before he got a deal, 1036 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 9: I didn't know who he was. 1037 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 7: That's what they was listening to. 1038 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 9: I think kids right now, unlike us, where we was 1039 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 9: liking everything, they are looking for very specific things. That's 1040 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 9: not feeding the ecosystem of the mainstream hip hop. And 1041 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 9: I don't think that's really necessarily being reported as much 1042 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 9: as it should be. The taste of the children have changed. 1043 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 9: We like what we like, but the kids' opinions are 1044 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 9: changing drastically. 1045 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was talking to so. 1046 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: I have a seventeen year old son, and you know, 1047 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 1: every once in a while when I get a chance, 1048 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 1: I talked to, you know, some of his friends, you know, 1049 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: and some people at the school man who are y'all 1050 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: listening to right now? 1051 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 2: You know? 1052 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 1: And you know, they say, you know some of the 1053 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 1: names that we always hear. 1054 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 2: But I was like, who knew? Who do we not know? 1055 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 1: Like so they mentioned like last year was like B 1056 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 1: six and then there was a guy by the name 1057 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: of and you know, of course we in Georgia. So 1058 00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: these are the artist that has to sound as typical 1059 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,760 Speaker 1: for here, but be Sis and a guy named Baby 1060 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 1: Chief Do It. 1061 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,399 Speaker 2: And I remember, you. 1062 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: Know, bringing these names up on that and hip hop, 1063 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, just kind of throwing them out there just 1064 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: as example. And then Baby Chief Do It popped up 1065 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: on something we reviewed. I think it was a Chance 1066 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: Joint and uh something like that, and he killed it. 1067 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 1: Everybody was like, Oh, that's that's dope. I was like, Yo, 1068 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: that's the one that the kids would listen to. So 1069 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 1: it's always interesting. I love to kind of like talk 1070 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 1: to them and see like what are they listening to 1071 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 1: and what's changing so I can keep up with the trends, 1072 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 1: not necessarily that I have to like it, but just 1073 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 1: to kind of get an idea of like where we're going, 1074 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, as as as a as a as a genre, 1075 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 1: you know, as a culture. Is there some sustainability to it? 1076 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 2: You know? Are these guys rapping and stuff like that? 1077 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that's interesting that you also, you know, 1078 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: Jarv have experienced the same thing, and I like the 1079 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: fact that you are kind of probing and trying to 1080 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: get some insight as well. 1081 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:56,319 Speaker 2: I think that's dope. 1082 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you know real quick to drive point like, 1083 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 7: the kids are going to be what dictate the future 1084 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 7: of what music is gonna go like in mass right 1085 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 7: like like because eventually they're gonna be the number one 1086 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 7: consumers we are currently, but obviously we're gonna get phased out. 1087 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,439 Speaker 7: That being said, Like my brother, man, my youngest brother. 1088 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:19,880 Speaker 7: You know, I moved to Texas. I don't know if 1089 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 7: y'all knew that, but I moved to Texas. I've been 1090 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 7: here for like four or five months now. And my 1091 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 7: brother he coaches an AAU team, you know, multiple teams, 1092 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 7: so like he's my resource. I always ask him and 1093 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 7: here regionally, you know, I'm already bad with they, so 1094 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,720 Speaker 7: I'm not gonna give you the name how to forget 1095 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 7: all the niggas, but you know, he be playing them 1096 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 7: like whenever we be in the car, and shit, I'm like, bro, 1097 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 7: like this is not made for me, you know what 1098 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 7: I'm saying. But he's like, yo, like the kids the 1099 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 7: kids are you know, like they on it, you know 1100 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 7: what I'm saying. 1101 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,720 Speaker 4: And it's a lot of cads. 1102 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 7: Like none of the cats that you mentioned out of 1103 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 7: New York, I never heard them cats, and I'm pretty 1104 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 7: sure that I could find the names, like if I 1105 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 7: said that y'all niggas. But but at the end of 1106 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 7: the day, it goes back to the point, is the 1107 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 7: reason why the regionality bro like the re regionality is 1108 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 7: it's coming back, and I think that that's gonna be 1109 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 7: an amazing thing for hip hop. I don't think it's 1110 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 7: a bad thing. 1111 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 12: It's it's the regionality compared also with the fact that 1112 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 12: you know, hip hop is, you know, fifty plus years old, 1113 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 12: so it's gonna be different pockets and fan base. You know, 1114 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 12: Like in ninety eight, Rock Kim was thirty, but he 1115 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,240 Speaker 12: seems old to us, But now that still. 1116 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 7: Kicks my day. In ninety eight he's seen old. 1117 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,840 Speaker 9: But now once I touched thirty the artists I was 1118 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 9: listening too or third, like why did we treat rock 1119 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 9: Kim like that? 1120 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:32,879 Speaker 7: Very much? 1121 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 2: In this problem? 1122 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 12: Like the Big three are all forty or nearing forty, right, 1123 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 12: and that's the like we don't we don't act like that. 1124 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,839 Speaker 12: So it's like, as as the age of hip hop expans, 1125 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 12: you know that that's also going to be a part 1126 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,399 Speaker 12: of the audience just different, you know what I mean? 1127 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 11: It was very much. 1128 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 12: You know, twenty twenty five years ago, the audience age 1129 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,399 Speaker 12: specifically was much more centralized, you know what I mean, 1130 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,360 Speaker 12: all the folks listening to WBLS, kids listen to like, 1131 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 12: you know, uh Nickelodeon type stuff. But now you've got 1132 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 12: five year olds that have their own rap, and you 1133 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 12: got fifty five year olds that got their own rap. 1134 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 12: Combined with the regionality of it all because each region 1135 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 12: got they old and they middle and their younger artists. 1136 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 12: So when you think about it on that level that 1137 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 12: the audience is definitely going to expand. The audience is 1138 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 12: definitely gonna change. But like my man said, I think 1139 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 12: it's for the better at the end of the day. 1140 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 6: Like the way the way I look at it, bro 1141 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 6: like or all the all the waiters off these kids, like, 1142 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 6: think about it. We're all in the somewhat in the 1143 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 6: same age room. 1144 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:36,320 Speaker 4: Think about it. 1145 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 6: If you want to be a rapper, twenty twenty five 1146 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 6: years ago, like there was a whole playbook you kind 1147 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 6: of almost had to follow. You know, there was an aesthetic, 1148 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,919 Speaker 6: especially if you were from a certain place. 1149 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 4: You know, if it was a New York. 1150 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 6: Rapper, you had your baggy jeans, you had your tims, 1151 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 6: you had your pel you know. 1152 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 4: You just had your York fitted. You know, you're Scully, 1153 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 4: whatever it was. 1154 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 6: I feel like today these kids, they you're free to 1155 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 6: do whatever the fuck you want nowadays in a way 1156 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 6: that you will never like. They have just nothing holding 1157 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,320 Speaker 6: them back. If you want to be a skinny jeans 1158 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 6: big jacket wrapper, do it. You want to be a 1159 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,799 Speaker 6: take sure with the big jeans wrapper. There's there's a 1160 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,319 Speaker 6: lane now for everybody, which I think is dope because 1161 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,760 Speaker 6: it could elevate the game and it and it creates 1162 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,720 Speaker 6: a lot more lanes, Like we talked about it earlier, 1163 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,280 Speaker 6: how rap, how rock has so many different sub genres 1164 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 6: that there's so many subgenres and hip hop, and I 1165 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 6: think that it's where as as we get older, our 1166 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,799 Speaker 6: ears get older, you know, So as I listened in 1167 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 6: the sun that a sixteen year old will go crazy. 1168 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 4: So I'm like, what the like? You like, what the 1169 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 4: fuck is this? 1170 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 2: But so fast every time? 1171 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,720 Speaker 7: But I can't the program. 1172 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:43,839 Speaker 4: My ears are holding on. 1173 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 6: A little sexy drill ship in the right in the 1174 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,839 Speaker 6: right set another thing. Circumstance, you know, the right situation. 1175 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 6: Those things create situations. You feel me so they play, 1176 00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 6: they definitely play the part. 1177 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 2: They call it sexy drill. 1178 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not about shooting niggas, that's that's about. 1179 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 6: It's about more more like you know, set the vibe, sipping, 1180 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 6: smoking like you'ling like a sexy tone. 1181 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 4: It's like for the ladies. 1182 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,879 Speaker 7: You know. That's where I like, you know, Yeah, it's 1183 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:19,879 Speaker 7: the whole New York. 1184 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 4: New York is a wild place. Man. We'll take a 1185 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 4: bad thing makes them amazing, So we do. 1186 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 2: His sexy drill. So so sexy drill has replaced love songs. 1187 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're no longer good, We're more like. That's that'shere. 1188 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 12: That's the thing, right, because sexy drill is different from 1189 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 12: what like a little t J or a boogie dude, right, 1190 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 12: so fat that's even crazy. 1191 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:48,359 Speaker 9: A boogie coming over to the sexy drill side now now, 1192 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 9: be honest. 1193 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 4: It's crazy, you know. 1194 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, sexy drift. Now I got to go here the ship. 1195 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 7: Uh that child, you know, listen at your old risk. 1196 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,800 Speaker 7: That's all I'm gonna tell you. 1197 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 1: You know, the biggest thing about what you were saying, uh, Deanie. 1198 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:08,800 Speaker 3: Is that. 1199 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 2: You don't even have to be good nowadays. That's the 1200 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 2: biggest man you. 1201 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 7: Know, but good good, good is subjective though now good no, 1202 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 7: but look, I'm just being honest. Understand, there's a standard 1203 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 7: of good that we have to maintain. But but but 1204 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:38,759 Speaker 7: but then but there's a standard of enjoyment that is 1205 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 7: that is different that that you know what I'm saying. 1206 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 7: And this is the reason why I say that. Like 1207 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 7: my brother, he listens to a lot more genres of 1208 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 7: music than I do. And I think this one chick, 1209 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 7: Georgianna Smith with a j or something like that, right, like, 1210 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 7: he has this one song that is like it feels 1211 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 7: very jazzy. She starts rapping, and like I could be like, bro, 1212 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 7: like I know fifty million rappers that sound better than her, 1213 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 7: but it's viiety And even though I may not like 1214 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 7: her entire quite alogue, she got songs that I'm like, well, 1215 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 7: damn okay, well this shiit fit the vibe. So that's 1216 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 7: why I'm saying, like it's very subjective, Like you don't 1217 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,280 Speaker 7: have to be, you know, a hip, hip hoppity rapper 1218 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 7: to be good, to have a good song, to be 1219 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 7: to be consumed for your music to to to to 1220 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 7: move like it doesn't authority. So that's good and it 1221 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 7: is nice. Is that what you say? You separate? 1222 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 9: Because when I hit good, I'm thinking like the boss connect, 1223 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,240 Speaker 9: the pocket is right, the breathing is right, the cadence 1224 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 9: is right. 1225 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 7: That's when I think good. And that's what I'm saying. 1226 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 7: But just because you may have a couple of good 1227 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 7: songs doesn't mean that you're a good artist, right right, 1228 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 7: You created moments, and I think and I think that's 1229 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 7: the thing. I think that that's where we're moving just 1230 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,239 Speaker 7: as a society and whole beyond hip hop, right because 1231 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 7: because everything is so fast paced now, it's like, how 1232 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 7: do how do we create moments in time? 1233 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 4: And I think that that's where music is. 1234 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 9: At twenty second time. We're not Georgianah Smith is not 1235 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 9: the white girl I'm behind. 1236 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 7: Yes, Oh no, pack up. I have to realize what 1237 00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:14,440 Speaker 7: you want to talk about. Pack Bro. I'm gonna send you. 1238 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,319 Speaker 7: I'm gonna send you hey, Hey, I'm gonna send you 1239 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:18,959 Speaker 7: one song. 1240 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 6: Bro. 1241 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,719 Speaker 7: Bro, it's a vo Bro. And I'm not and I'm 1242 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 7: not calling her a nice artist like in general, right, 1243 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 7: Like I'm not saying like her entire music catalog is amazing, 1244 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 7: But Bro, I've been listening to like two or three 1245 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 7: jos I got you got a good heart, bro, I'll 1246 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 7: tell you that. 1247 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,799 Speaker 4: Hey, you you know where it is from. What did 1248 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 4: he say? 1249 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 1: What was the first thing he said when I said 1250 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,400 Speaker 1: you have to be good? It was like, you know, 1251 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: it's got you know. 1252 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,280 Speaker 4: Now you can be good at certain things? 1253 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1254 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 7: I have to be Why the NBA is diluted? 1255 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 9: Now we done got away from the game and now 1256 00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 9: we got specialists and the game don't hit the same. 1257 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 7: And let's let's not talk basketball talking about because because 1258 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 7: we won't be here for another four hours. 1259 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 2: We won't be here for. 1260 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 4: Another four hours. 1261 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,240 Speaker 7: Let's go there. 1262 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 4: Oh man, that's all right. Man. 1263 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 2: I love that conversation. Man, that was dope. 1264 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see how we finish off 1265 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 1: the year when we get to the end of it. 1266 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 1: But let's talk about artists. Let's talk about albums. So 1267 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna start with artists first. Who do you guys 1268 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,920 Speaker 1: think needs twenty twenty six to go? 1269 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 2: Right? 1270 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 4: Mm hmm, Jacop that's I mean elephant in the room, right, 1271 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 4: that's it, you know, I. 1272 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 7: Mean everybody else? 1273 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,439 Speaker 11: Yeah, it's Jake Cole, that's the that's the m VP 1274 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 11: of that list. Like a good. 1275 00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 9: I think he's been fighting a narrative war. He's been fighting, 1276 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 9: he's been going uphill. A lot of it's self inflicted, 1277 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 9: you know. Again, once you I don't know how you 1278 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 9: guys feel about it. Let me know if I'm tripping. 1279 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 9: But our stance has been, once you enter the ring, 1280 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 9: you can't just walk out the ring. They played your music, 1281 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 9: they announced you. You threw some punches, and then you 1282 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 9: decided that you didn't want to fight no more. And 1283 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 9: hip hop, especially the ilk that he comes from. He 1284 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,439 Speaker 9: came through the league with the things that we liked, 1285 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 9: the things that we represented, and you got in a 1286 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 9: ring with Kendrick. 1287 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 7: After saying you was the best the entire. 1288 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 9: Five years, Kendrick was out of the game essentially, and 1289 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 9: then as soon as it started, you backed out. And 1290 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 9: I think that in that situation, terrible look. One hundred 1291 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 9: percent terrible look. And now you put yourself in a 1292 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 9: position where it's kind of like you get beat up 1293 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,200 Speaker 9: on the block. Anybody think you're pussing. Now you got 1294 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 9: at some point get your name back. That's how I'm 1295 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 9: seeing it. You didn't squabble with Kenny. Everyone thinks you're 1296 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 9: a coward. We still know you, Wow, nice. I still 1297 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 9: think Sinner's not here to call me crazy. I still 1298 00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 9: think ball football, he could have out wrapped Kendrick if 1299 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,919 Speaker 9: they would have got to it. But now you got 1300 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 9: to prove it. There's no escapement. 1301 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 8: In my opinion, I don't know if he ever belonged 1302 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,960 Speaker 8: in that arena here we go. 1303 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 7: I don't think that got him to that. 1304 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 4: Arena based on that. It's not even based on that. 1305 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 5: It's not even from a from a from a like A. 1306 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,880 Speaker 5: Like I said, I think he does have the bars. 1307 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,440 Speaker 5: I don't disagree with you that. That's not what I'm 1308 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,440 Speaker 5: saying exactly. I'm just saying that, like I think he 1309 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,840 Speaker 5: just should have just never should have gotten involved. 1310 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 4: Honestly, I think he got in. 1311 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 3: But I just think I think he just should have 1312 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 3: never got into it. 1313 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 5: J Cole had had its own little thing going on, 1314 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. 1315 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 3: Like, I think he just should have should have never 1316 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 3: just got in the arena. 1317 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 5: To be quite honest, I don't think and that it's 1318 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 5: not because I don't think he can rap and he 1319 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,800 Speaker 5: can't go bar for bar with these guys. 1320 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 3: I just don't think that. 1321 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,479 Speaker 5: Was his He's too too much of a nice guy, 1322 00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 5: like no one believed him when he did it, Like 1323 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 5: no nobody believed that you wanted to rap against never never, never, 1324 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 5: ever do we think that that that you wanted to 1325 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 5: do that? So why are you even in this arena now? 1326 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 3: Now? 1327 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 5: Now you can't go around saying that you're best rapper 1328 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 5: and all that, because somebody eventually gonna call y'all. 1329 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 3: So I do agree with you there. 1330 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 5: I think he needs to come off of that and 1331 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 5: just create good music or whatever. 1332 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 3: I don't think he needs to to to stay in 1333 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 3: this all. 1334 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 5: I'm the best rapper out bang. I think he just 1335 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 5: needs to create it. Let people love j Cole for 1336 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,520 Speaker 5: what he is, and just stay there. I don't think 1337 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 5: he needs to be in these these battle arenas. Just 1338 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 5: make good music. Just just make stay in your lane, 1339 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 5: make your music, and I think people will love you 1340 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,960 Speaker 5: like they were loving. I mean, as soon as he 1341 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 5: jumped into that, everybody turned to gets him this up 1342 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,960 Speaker 5: to you know, the Dreamville fans. But but yeah, I 1343 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,920 Speaker 5: just I just think he just needs to focus. And 1344 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 5: I think the same thing about Drake. Honestly, I think 1345 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 5: he just needs to focus on good music. You know 1346 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Just making your hit records. Like that's it, y'all. 1347 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,360 Speaker 5: Don't play around with Kendrick. It is the bottom line, 1348 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 5: because that's that's why I'm mad with you. I mean, 1349 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 5: it was great and it was fun and everything, but 1350 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 5: these guys just can't spark with him. 1351 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 6: But one guy just has to stop rapping tough, you 1352 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,920 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. Luckily, he's exceptional at rapping from 1353 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,800 Speaker 6: a deep introspective perspective, as you heard from the joint 1354 01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 6: he just dropped. You know, he can take you into 1355 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 6: those But like Drake is essentially bro. We made like 1356 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 6: Drake music like weird. Get what I'm saying, Like, like 1357 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 6: his actual sound is like weird. Now, you know, That's 1358 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:39,760 Speaker 6: why I feel like he's in a worse off place 1359 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 6: than J Cole because all J Cole got to do 1360 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,440 Speaker 6: is stay away from the he gotta go vegan. But this, 1361 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,560 Speaker 6: this is like something I don't know what Drake gotta do. 1362 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,520 Speaker 6: Drake gotta do a whole nother like because his whole 1363 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 6: sound has been basically watered down and washed like the 1364 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 6: whole He's got to come from a completely different respective. 1365 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 6: We heard a bunch of songs he dropped through the 1366 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 6: year not it really stuck like that, you know, which 1367 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 6: is a new ordeal for him because he's never had 1368 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 6: to deal with that, Which makes me think that his 1369 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 6: year is a little bit more tougher than Cole's. With 1370 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,480 Speaker 6: all Cole gotta do is rapp dope got to do 1371 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 6: a lot more than just. 1372 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 7: I disagree with that. I think there's too many people 1373 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 7: who are disappointed with Cole and they got to see 1374 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 7: some ship and I don't think he could just he 1375 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:18,320 Speaker 7: can't get away with that. 1376 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 6: Get rewind part two ain't selling niggas ain't enough. 1377 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,320 Speaker 4: It's not enough. Shout out to kiss? 1378 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 11: Did I think you gassed off for today's track? But 1379 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 11: Cole definitely. 1380 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 4: Got more little video like it was today. 1381 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,680 Speaker 12: It definitely does, you know what I mean? All the 1382 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,080 Speaker 12: props indeed, but Cold, come on Cold. 1383 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:40,880 Speaker 7: You have one way to go. 1384 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 4: Shout out to catch. 1385 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:49,120 Speaker 5: Because because I do not listen to jars, Wow, not 1386 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,240 Speaker 5: listen to this man, stay out of this arena. 1387 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 9: I mean, apparently the album might be done already, and 1388 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 9: from what I'm hearing, from what I've heard today, I 1389 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,480 Speaker 9: fully anticipate here with some Kenny's direction. 1390 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 3: That'd be the worst mistake ever. 1391 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:12,920 Speaker 4: I believe that one hundred percent, but maybe like an 1392 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 4: explanation of everything that transpired through that whole ship, there's 1393 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,440 Speaker 4: gotta be an explanation, like a the official one. 1394 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,560 Speaker 9: Don't disk and you're not talking about how you folded 1395 01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 9: it from of fifty two thousands of your own people. 1396 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 7: I don't got to talk about that. 1397 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 3: Listen, I'll touch it. I'll touch it. 1398 01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,919 Speaker 1: So, no, Drake Iceman's dropping this year. You're Wescot Bully 1399 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 1: dropping this year. I know he's off. 1400 01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,800 Speaker 12: It's an important year for Drake for sure, Kanye not 1401 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,200 Speaker 12: as much. I think they are what they are, Like, 1402 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 12: Drake fought the fight, he lost, he sued, so it's 1403 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 12: like there's no there's no music that's gonna make him 1404 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 12: come back from that. 1405 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,280 Speaker 11: You feel what I'm saying. The fan base is still there, 1406 01:03:59,360 --> 01:03:59,600 Speaker 11: you know. 1407 01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,560 Speaker 12: I feel like people very much feel how they gonna 1408 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 12: feel about Drake. But people with J Cole people feel 1409 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 12: a lot more let down because he never actually if 1410 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,080 Speaker 12: he just went the mile and got smacked up, it 1411 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 12: wouldn't even matter. But with cole Is his destiny seems unfulfilled, 1412 01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 12: you know what I'm saying. So, so if we're talking 1413 01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,160 Speaker 12: about an important year from From that aspect, I think 1414 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,919 Speaker 12: Cole is leading. I actually wanted to wanted to mention 1415 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,200 Speaker 12: JID to keep it in Dreamville. I think it's an 1416 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 12: important year for him as well. He allegedly has an 1417 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:35,800 Speaker 12: album with Metro Booming coming completely produced by Metro. I 1418 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 12: think this, you know, this is as good of a 1419 01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 12: chance with you know, j I D has been the 1420 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,360 Speaker 12: next guy up for how long now, you know what I. 1421 01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 11: Mean, the next guy who's gonna take gold every long time. 1422 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 12: We know the lyricism is there, we know he can 1423 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,920 Speaker 12: make great music, but he still hasn't put together that 1424 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,320 Speaker 12: that MVP season, that two thousand shock, that ninety one 1425 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 12: Jordan and I feel like he can do that, right. 1426 01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 12: I feel like if anybody like Metro show was the coach, 1427 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 12: is the Phil Jackson that he needs, you know what 1428 01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 12: I mean, I think he can move up. You know, 1429 01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,320 Speaker 12: the fellas my guys went live earlier today, they were 1430 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 12: talking about a tier and s tier among rappers. 1431 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 11: You know what I mean. J I D is clearly 1432 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:14,479 Speaker 11: a tier, but. 1433 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,440 Speaker 12: I think he still needs that signature, that signature moment, 1434 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,360 Speaker 12: that signature year, the album to make it to that 1435 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 12: legendary level, to the way we speak about him as 1436 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 12: one of the all time greats. I think he can 1437 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,080 Speaker 12: have that kind of year this year. So I think 1438 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 12: it's it's a very important. He can go from an 1439 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 12: intercontinental champion to a to a world champion this year 1440 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 12: if he do his thing. 1441 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 2: The last album didn't do it. 1442 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:40,120 Speaker 7: Nah, I didn't. 1443 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,960 Speaker 11: It was supposed to, you know. 1444 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 2: It was like that. 1445 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,080 Speaker 4: I like the one before that better than the one 1446 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:46,320 Speaker 4: that drop, right, So. 1447 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 9: I think Metro is the perfect guy for it. I 1448 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,840 Speaker 9: feel like more rappers need to utilize Metro. I think 1449 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 9: he's as great as Metro is that he's still underutilized 1450 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 9: by a lot of talented artists from coast to coast, 1451 01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,360 Speaker 9: like get into him with Metro Booman. I think this 1452 01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,400 Speaker 9: beautiful project still to be made with these elite level 1453 01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 9: lyricists if they just connect with him. 1454 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,840 Speaker 4: And supposedly Benny got an album with him too. 1455 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:07,760 Speaker 2: Bullship. 1456 01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 9: I've been asking for that for like three years now, 1457 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 9: Like Yo, I've been tweeting about it. 1458 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:14,360 Speaker 7: I've been potting about it. 1459 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,320 Speaker 4: That is the guy, shout. 1460 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 7: I need for that. I need for that. 1461 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,760 Speaker 2: I've been asking for that, Bennie and Metro. 1462 01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, even talking about this ship for years. 1463 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:31,080 Speaker 7: Bro, Yeah, there's a third party that I know that 1464 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,280 Speaker 7: he's been in the studio with them and you know, 1465 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,400 Speaker 7: so like he told me that you know they got 1466 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 7: some heat, but I just don't know. It's kind of 1467 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 7: like soft Walker and that Bust of Ryan's joined at 1468 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 7: me and be been weighing on for for years now. 1469 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,920 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, it's a who's the 1470 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 4: guy that Benny liked to collabor with? Not not just Alchemist, 1471 01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:53,640 Speaker 4: who's the other producer? 1472 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:54,440 Speaker 2: No? 1473 01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,440 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no no that made like the. 1474 01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:02,440 Speaker 7: Drummers ship Nah there And so it's a sauce Walker 1475 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,960 Speaker 7: feature in Bust. The rhymes on the Darrener beat and 1476 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,760 Speaker 7: it's fucking crazy, but it has it come out. 1477 01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,280 Speaker 9: You just made my day, Bro, Benny Metro, I've been 1478 01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 9: asking for that, dropped the project with Harry Froud. 1479 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:16,680 Speaker 7: I think I said, that's the next guy you need 1480 01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 7: to connect with him. 1481 01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 3: Boy was he did with him? 1482 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 4: Boys? So yeah, the only one that liked it on 1483 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:23,600 Speaker 4: the crew. 1484 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,680 Speaker 7: Get Out of the Proof is Benny's best work Key, 1485 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 7: It's it's one of them. It's one of them. Uh, 1486 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 7: it's one of them. 1487 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:39,120 Speaker 2: Top best work key. 1488 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,120 Speaker 7: Nobody else on that hip hop is having it except 1489 01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:42,600 Speaker 7: for me. But you got company tonight. 1490 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:43,640 Speaker 4: I appreciate. 1491 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:45,240 Speaker 2: Man. 1492 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 7: Hey, man, I might have to get traded, bro, I 1493 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,720 Speaker 7: might have to the trade. 1494 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,160 Speaker 4: Like three first round picks over there. Man. 1495 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:56,800 Speaker 7: Uh what about. 1496 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,960 Speaker 3: Role that project is called? God doesn't like. 1497 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:09,280 Speaker 2: I was better than the last one? 1498 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:10,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1499 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,040 Speaker 5: I wonder where he's going with like yeah saying like 1500 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,160 Speaker 5: saying it's type of title. 1501 01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,280 Speaker 7: I guess he's trying to make his little series that 1502 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:19,639 Speaker 7: makes sense, you know, tie. 1503 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:25,080 Speaker 2: It all together. Yeah, that work. I'm with that. 1504 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:26,320 Speaker 4: What about Baby King? 1505 01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,760 Speaker 2: Man, I got two more names. I'm gonna out and 1506 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,840 Speaker 2: then we're gonna get some album. 1507 01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,720 Speaker 7: Baby needs to Baby, he needs to ride away, bro. 1508 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,840 Speaker 7: And what I mean by that is, you know, don't 1509 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,160 Speaker 7: just I know. But but here's the thing though, because 1510 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,120 Speaker 7: of the name and the affiliation, anytime he's like on 1511 01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:47,160 Speaker 7: a feature or on ship, it's like, oh ship, it's 1512 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,599 Speaker 7: like not ride that old ship moment for the rest 1513 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:50,040 Speaker 7: of the year. 1514 01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:52,120 Speaker 4: And he hasn't done that. 1515 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,679 Speaker 7: And I think that that's what's hurting him, bro, because 1516 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,240 Speaker 7: it's too sporadic. It's like it doesn't feel like it's playing. 1517 01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,120 Speaker 7: It just feels like, Okay, well, yeah, I'm jup. Just 1518 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,360 Speaker 7: hear him gonna do that there, and it's just like, yo, 1519 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:06,679 Speaker 7: like we need momentum, like because he's still so new, 1520 01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:10,080 Speaker 7: like we don't really have body bodies of work. 1521 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:11,120 Speaker 4: So it's like, bro, like. 1522 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:15,400 Speaker 7: We we we need that and baby K needs to 1523 01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:16,200 Speaker 7: be more strategic. 1524 01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,719 Speaker 3: That's one of the biggest mysteries in hip hop because 1525 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:19,479 Speaker 3: he woudn't even have to. 1526 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:25,840 Speaker 7: Pop out right, I don't think that's what I'm saying, bro, Like, 1527 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,160 Speaker 7: it just it just feels like it's just random. 1528 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:32,440 Speaker 1: And I think he had a really really good opportunity. 1529 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 13: Man, when everybody was watching Mmm anything can ThReD had 1530 01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 13: had his hands on when it comes to music, man, 1531 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,160 Speaker 13: people were up alive. 1532 01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 4: But the game, the game is. The game is different. 1533 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 6: You can spok up and like the next day like 1534 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:51,960 Speaker 6: if him and say him and can't you drop the 1535 01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,840 Speaker 6: joint tomorrow? It'll be right back in conversations told especially 1536 01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:56,640 Speaker 6: if the ship was fired, you know, like that's the 1537 01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,040 Speaker 6: crazy part about hip hop, Like you like but when 1538 01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,360 Speaker 6: Hoole said you only want it away, like he really 1539 01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,680 Speaker 6: meant it, bro, Like, it's really right there if he 1540 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,960 Speaker 6: dropped it, like the three main songs we know from him, 1541 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,559 Speaker 6: are kind of Kendrick affiliated songs, you know, so if 1542 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,400 Speaker 6: him and Kendrick drop sout and it just happens to 1543 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,280 Speaker 6: be fired, not like he'll Billy and some ship, but 1544 01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:13,160 Speaker 6: like Family Ties. 1545 01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 7: Niggas love Hillbillies though not me, but they love Hillbilly's. 1546 01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,040 Speaker 7: Family Ties is amazing though, Like yeah, like just just 1547 01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 7: something to create the momentum and after that he would 1548 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,840 Speaker 7: have to take the reins for himself. But like at 1549 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,760 Speaker 7: this point, Kendrick is the battery, you know, so long 1550 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,080 Speaker 7: as Kendrick is there. You don't think King could pop 1551 01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:30,360 Speaker 7: out without Kenny and do a right. 1552 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 3: Four years. It's crazy. 1553 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,439 Speaker 12: But Kim is all about about consistency and you know, 1554 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 12: just wanting to be out there because we the music 1555 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,080 Speaker 12: has been fired whenever he pop out. Right, you mentioned 1556 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:46,800 Speaker 12: Family Ties that might have been the song of the 1557 01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 12: year a year and dropped then Bro just dropped off 1558 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,600 Speaker 12: the face of the earth. One thing about Kim is 1559 01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,679 Speaker 12: that he he he can hold a very important position 1560 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:59,200 Speaker 12: and rap. He can bring a certain musical legitimacy to that, 1561 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:03,960 Speaker 12: like play with Cardi don Tolliver that melodic lane that 1562 01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 12: that a lot of you know, a certain demographic won't 1563 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,160 Speaker 12: listen to guys like us will when it's baby came 1564 01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 12: because he he's. 1565 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:12,120 Speaker 11: That dope with it. 1566 01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,559 Speaker 12: But at the same time, he could appeal to you know, 1567 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,439 Speaker 12: some kid that listens to destroy Lonely, So I think 1568 01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,640 Speaker 12: he's he could potentially be a very important figure in 1569 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:21,439 Speaker 12: twenty twenty six. 1570 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:22,400 Speaker 11: He just gotta won it. 1571 01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:27,679 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, y'all messed with Detroy Lonely. Nah. 1572 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,040 Speaker 11: I definitely not. 1573 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:32,519 Speaker 2: Heard him. 1574 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:36,320 Speaker 4: I heard him, you know, but I'm good. I know 1575 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,040 Speaker 4: they're gonna be at the governor. They're gonna be at 1576 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:38,680 Speaker 4: the Governor's Boy. 1577 01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,800 Speaker 9: I've seen him on the list, So yeah, if we're lucky, 1578 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:43,200 Speaker 9: we'll get the chopper with them. 1579 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:49,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I think uh people like him, man, Yeah, 1580 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:54,000 Speaker 1: kind of got a name him, all right, Well anyway, 1581 01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:59,600 Speaker 1: so okay, so Cole Drake and second last one, I got. 1582 01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:06,479 Speaker 2: NICKI Minaj. You gotta you. 1583 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 7: Lying motioning like man, don't listen to this, don't listen 1584 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,320 Speaker 7: to that all las nigga talking about no goddamn. 1585 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:20,760 Speaker 4: No disrespect to Nick and bro. Yeah, come on, come 1586 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,679 Speaker 4: on listen people. 1587 01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,040 Speaker 9: I've said many times and I'm a barbie, but right now, 1588 01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,680 Speaker 9: I gotta I gotta I gotta veer away. It's a 1589 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,519 Speaker 9: lot going on over there. I gotta put some distance 1590 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:32,760 Speaker 9: in between myself and Nick. 1591 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,919 Speaker 7: I'm over here. I don't know what she could potentially 1592 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,639 Speaker 7: rap about. That's gonna get rid of the the energy 1593 01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:45,040 Speaker 7: that surrounded her right now? Yeah, nothing nothing, you know 1594 01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,000 Speaker 7: what you yeah like. 1595 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:48,280 Speaker 4: Controlling bro. 1596 01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,240 Speaker 2: Man Erica Kirk gonna do the intro? 1597 01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:55,880 Speaker 4: Oh my god? 1598 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,400 Speaker 7: Well oh man, all right, hek you gonna leave these 1599 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:04,320 Speaker 7: super chats up? 1600 01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,479 Speaker 4: My boy? Are you're gonna close these joints down? 1601 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:17,000 Speaker 2: Where're going? I got it? I got him albums, albums? 1602 01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,160 Speaker 2: What albums are you guys looking forward to? 1603 01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,320 Speaker 7: Six mm hmm? 1604 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,200 Speaker 5: Police just anybody throwing them out? I want to see 1605 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:30,559 Speaker 5: what I want to Curry is gonna do with this uh. 1606 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,960 Speaker 4: With this Cream and what's her name? Who else was 1607 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:35,719 Speaker 4: there in that picture? 1608 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 2: It was. 1609 01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,840 Speaker 3: Max so Cream and JP Mafia. Yeah. 1610 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, he got his own joint dropping too. I don't 1611 01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:45,760 Speaker 5: know what that is, but I know he got his 1612 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:50,360 Speaker 5: own album dropping. So I'm looking looking to see what 1613 01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,639 Speaker 5: he does. I'm looking to see how how Doc comes 1614 01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,000 Speaker 5: back out. I think I don't under depression, you know 1615 01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,920 Speaker 5: what I mean. I'm looking looking forward to see see 1616 01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,080 Speaker 5: what what she does. You know, I know we already 1617 01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,040 Speaker 5: talked about it, but Jay Cole, I'm curious to see, 1618 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,679 Speaker 5: you know, how he overcomes the situation and he seems 1619 01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:13,519 Speaker 5: like he's very focused on on creating a good album. 1620 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,360 Speaker 5: Let's see Freddy gives Ka Trinada got something they're trying 1621 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:21,320 Speaker 5: to do. That's fine, so that should be cool. 1622 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,479 Speaker 3: I want to hear someone Isaiah Rashard too. 1623 01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,040 Speaker 5: I see up on the list too to be trying 1624 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:26,799 Speaker 5: to drop something. 1625 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,000 Speaker 3: So that's just the few for my end. 1626 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,240 Speaker 7: I need that Stove gud I need I need that 1627 01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,840 Speaker 7: Stove gud Bro. I need that Stove guy. I think 1628 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,840 Speaker 7: Stove Got had a really good twenty twenty five, you know, 1629 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,920 Speaker 7: with the clips feature and then you know he was 1630 01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,759 Speaker 7: on Joint Jada podcast and he played a joint there, 1631 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,840 Speaker 7: like like I think anybody that's tapped into Griselda in 1632 01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,920 Speaker 7: that whole wave, like that Stove God project Bro is 1633 01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,040 Speaker 7: like end all be all right now. So I don't 1634 01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:59,000 Speaker 7: want to hear nothing else until I hear that. You know, 1635 01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,800 Speaker 7: I'm a big a SOB Rocky guy, so I'm here 1636 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,559 Speaker 7: for asp Rocky. I want to see what Iceman does, 1637 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,560 Speaker 7: like you know what I'm saying, Like it'll be interesting. 1638 01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,679 Speaker 7: You know, he came out with what did I miss? 1639 01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,599 Speaker 7: And you know that was a miss? So we'll see 1640 01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:21,320 Speaker 7: what else is on that project, you know, last one, 1641 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,080 Speaker 7: I don't know, like those are the ones, you know, 1642 01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,559 Speaker 7: Like I got my other favorite artists, but they already 1643 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,000 Speaker 7: gave me stuff in twenty twenty five, so if I 1644 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,680 Speaker 7: don't get none in twenty twenty sixth but can I 1645 01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,840 Speaker 7: do want to ask you about yeat. 1646 01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:40,559 Speaker 1: You you want a new year yeating man, y'all gonna 1647 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:41,160 Speaker 1: get on board. 1648 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,160 Speaker 9: Hey, I agree with you about Stove. I'm in the 1649 01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,719 Speaker 9: minority of people was really mad a goat stamp dropped. 1650 01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:47,880 Speaker 7: I thought that song was fire. 1651 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,920 Speaker 9: I think that people really overreacted in the negative way 1652 01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:55,160 Speaker 9: towards that single. Definitely looking forward to Stove. It's not announced, 1653 01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:56,760 Speaker 9: but a part of me still is holding out hope 1654 01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,840 Speaker 9: that jay Z come outside in twenty twenty six There 1655 01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:00,840 Speaker 9: was just too much chatter for people who might know 1656 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:02,719 Speaker 9: that he might have been dropping something. 1657 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,400 Speaker 7: So I'm holding out some hole, some real hole for that. 1658 01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,960 Speaker 7: Of course. May see you mentioned a Jed project. I'm 1659 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,120 Speaker 7: curious to see what that sounds like because we could 1660 01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,639 Speaker 7: get our hopes up as much as we want, then 1661 01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,800 Speaker 7: it might not be what we envisioned it to be. 1662 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 7: But if it is, in fact when we envisioned it 1663 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,680 Speaker 7: to be, there, I think that's a mega album on 1664 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,960 Speaker 7: the way. Because I said maybe a month ago, I'm 1665 01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,800 Speaker 7: enjoying hip hop. I'm enjoying the projects, but I'm waiting 1666 01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:34,639 Speaker 7: for that next album, that next truly groundbreaking sonical lyrical 1667 01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,240 Speaker 7: experience in an artists to really raise the stakes, raise 1668 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,000 Speaker 7: the level. And I think We've gotten some really good albums, 1669 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,280 Speaker 7: but I'm waiting for that next Keyno album that we 1670 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,040 Speaker 7: all talk about twenty years from now, And I'm like, 1671 01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,840 Speaker 7: who's gonna put that together? And I think a combination 1672 01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:51,439 Speaker 7: as prolific as a JID in a Metro Woman could 1673 01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,519 Speaker 7: be something that we could be talking about for times 1674 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,600 Speaker 7: to come. So hopefully I get a j album, but 1675 01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,360 Speaker 7: I'm really looking forward to that Jid album. 1676 01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,520 Speaker 6: Like everything y'all just named, I just want more collaborative 1677 01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,160 Speaker 6: albums I was. I talked about this album at the 1678 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:05,880 Speaker 6: end of twenty twenty four. I said, what I would 1679 01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:07,880 Speaker 6: like to see coming into twenty twenty five is like 1680 01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:12,400 Speaker 6: some dope, rapper producer, collab albums, and we got a bunch, 1681 01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,679 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. We got the clips with Pharrell, 1682 01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,360 Speaker 6: we got the Freddy Gibbs and Alchemists. We got the 1683 01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:22,800 Speaker 6: Conductor and the Rome Streets, Rome Streets Conductor, Ransom Primo, 1684 01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,639 Speaker 6: Larry June two changed Alchemists like Shout Out, the Premo 1685 01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,400 Speaker 6: and nas. We got a lot, you know, so and 1686 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,519 Speaker 6: a lot of these projects were like really dope, and 1687 01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:33,720 Speaker 6: I want to see more of that coming into the year, 1688 01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:34,160 Speaker 6: you know. 1689 01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,160 Speaker 4: But even even something like. 1690 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,360 Speaker 6: Rapper rapper producer albums, you know, like a combo rappers 1691 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,240 Speaker 6: with one producer, and just it just seems like it's working. Bro, 1692 01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:45,360 Speaker 6: Like all the albums, even if they're not the best 1693 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,080 Speaker 6: album to you, you just hit the quality of the 1694 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,400 Speaker 6: of I guess being in the same room or working together, 1695 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,960 Speaker 6: and it's just it's just been a beautiful experience in 1696 01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:54,639 Speaker 6: twenty twenty five. 1697 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:55,720 Speaker 4: But I hope to see a lot more of it 1698 01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:56,559 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six. 1699 01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,320 Speaker 9: I'd like to see Rome Douce signing a little smoother too. 1700 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,320 Speaker 9: Like when we went to the the pop up for 1701 01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:06,240 Speaker 9: Mass Appeal, he said he has some things in the Chamber. 1702 01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,360 Speaker 9: I'd like to see him take a different journey sonically, 1703 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,920 Speaker 9: you know, I kind of want to. I want to 1704 01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,479 Speaker 9: hear him get back to the Pregriseld the Rome as 1705 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,439 Speaker 9: far as the sonics go, you know what I mean. 1706 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,240 Speaker 9: I want to contraband kind of way Roman, you know 1707 01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,439 Speaker 9: what I mean, dirty but very rich. 1708 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,280 Speaker 7: At the same time, he's gone so deep in the 1709 01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:25,120 Speaker 7: dirt lead. 1710 01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:27,959 Speaker 2: Projects. 1711 01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:29,920 Speaker 9: Kind of want him to veer away from that selfish. 1712 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:31,960 Speaker 9: If he gets that, I'll be very based. 1713 01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:32,920 Speaker 4: So let me. 1714 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,360 Speaker 7: I'm a bush of bubble just a little bit. Right, 1715 01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,960 Speaker 7: Like we had Rome on and Rome was talking about, 1716 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:41,000 Speaker 7: you know, these one producer projects because I asked him that, Hey, like, 1717 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,400 Speaker 7: because it just feels like the quality of music we're 1718 01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,800 Speaker 7: up once you just started linking in, and he said, 1719 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,840 Speaker 7: the majority of what he records, he's rarely in the 1720 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:53,799 Speaker 7: room with anybody else. Yeah, whether it be the producer 1721 01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,400 Speaker 7: or Yeah, he just he liked to lock in on 1722 01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:58,720 Speaker 7: his own and it is what it is. So you know, 1723 01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,080 Speaker 7: I thought I thought that was a little weird because, 1724 01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:05,120 Speaker 7: like I asked him about the rooftop joint that he 1725 01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,400 Speaker 7: did with Ransom, Yes, and how they were going back 1726 01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,960 Speaker 7: and forth and he was like, yeah, like I recorded, 1727 01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,120 Speaker 7: he recorded, send it back. I'm like, yo, but it's 1728 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,360 Speaker 7: not like y'all think it right in the room together. 1729 01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,439 Speaker 6: That very when that album dropped, they had a I 1730 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:20,400 Speaker 6: was listening at party. 1731 01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:21,320 Speaker 4: We weren't. 1732 01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:24,320 Speaker 6: We interviewed them about the album, bro, and we learned 1733 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,680 Speaker 6: so much about the ship. You get what I'm saying, Like, 1734 01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,760 Speaker 6: there were just so much intricate parts in the crazy part. 1735 01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:29,200 Speaker 4: They weren't. 1736 01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:30,880 Speaker 6: They weren't like locked in together when they did it. 1737 01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:32,960 Speaker 6: They were sending shit like That's one of the rare 1738 01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,240 Speaker 6: times we're sending music back and forth. Still led to 1739 01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,080 Speaker 6: like something super cohesive. So shout out to those good brothers. 1740 01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,800 Speaker 9: I like if Rome's tonically gave us something like that 1741 01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,200 Speaker 9: where But then again, you could tell that that Ray 1742 01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:44,760 Speaker 9: was picking the beats for the most part on that. 1743 01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,719 Speaker 7: But geez, I just think Rome getting in that funk 1744 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,080 Speaker 7: bag as opposed to these dirty drum less samples. 1745 01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,160 Speaker 9: I'm not gonna say the oppa thing because I went 1746 01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,439 Speaker 9: out of bound that time, but the dirty drummers, I 1747 01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:57,720 Speaker 9: just don't want to hear that from him no more. 1748 01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:58,280 Speaker 2: I think Rome. 1749 01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,320 Speaker 9: Rome's voice is such a did I feel like if 1750 01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,040 Speaker 9: he gets a little more in that soul bad when I. 1751 01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,839 Speaker 2: Funk back with his vote his vocal tone. 1752 01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:13,519 Speaker 7: Here we we need sol tape vibes or Rome Yes, 1753 01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:19,720 Speaker 7: yes you cut Yeah, fabulous so tape like that, the 1754 01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,880 Speaker 7: vibe of those so tapes with Rome streets rapping. 1755 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,639 Speaker 12: No, y'all, y'all, y'all mentioned most of them. Obviously they 1756 01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,760 Speaker 12: know me as Ovo Mason on our sides. So you know, 1757 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,679 Speaker 12: obviously man waiting on Ice, Man. 1758 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,160 Speaker 7: You're not waiting for Homie who dropped that single through 1759 01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:43,160 Speaker 7: the group chat roll with the over bite, I'm talking 1760 01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:49,000 Speaker 7: about Smiling Smiley, you know, Smiley back to the writing 1761 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,680 Speaker 7: camps for Smiley. 1762 01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:56,240 Speaker 12: But you know, obviously you mentioned's next project. You know, 1763 01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,840 Speaker 12: is very interesting to me because we often find ourselves, 1764 01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,160 Speaker 12: especially at our ages, speaking about either artists that are 1765 01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:06,519 Speaker 12: already in their prim or past. They prom Doci's the 1766 01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,679 Speaker 12: artist that hasn't even reached her prime yet. 1767 01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,000 Speaker 11: For me, so I'm very excited to see what she 1768 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:11,400 Speaker 11: takes it. 1769 01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,200 Speaker 12: She already got a Grammy, she already got the notoriety, 1770 01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:15,920 Speaker 12: she already got the hate, you know what I mean. 1771 01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:19,920 Speaker 12: So see, I'm very I'm very interested, you know, shouts 1772 01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,519 Speaker 12: the Nikki, But I feel like we Doci might be 1773 01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,280 Speaker 12: the one to take over, you know, where Meg or 1774 01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:26,880 Speaker 12: Cardi or anybody. 1775 01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:27,640 Speaker 11: Else was supposed to. 1776 01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,639 Speaker 12: I think Dochi is set up to really take over 1777 01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,360 Speaker 12: that spot. So I'm interested to see what her next 1778 01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:37,720 Speaker 12: album is going. I'm I'm interested personally, you know, with 1779 01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,200 Speaker 12: all of you know, y'all spoke about how Lanta took 1780 01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,000 Speaker 12: it from New York and this and that Atlanta had 1781 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,519 Speaker 12: a rough year. So I want to hear with I 1782 01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,280 Speaker 12: want to hear future the last moment getting out of it, 1783 01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:50,960 Speaker 12: you know what I mean. I want to you know, 1784 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,760 Speaker 12: with everything that is going over there, it seemed like 1785 01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:55,840 Speaker 12: he's the only one that is held his honor, you 1786 01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,519 Speaker 12: know what I mean. And in twenty twenty four he 1787 01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,360 Speaker 12: had one of his best years. Remember he started this 1788 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,559 Speaker 12: whole Kendrick Drake situation and then went on and dropped 1789 01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:06,720 Speaker 12: nothing but heat for the rest of the year. So 1790 01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,880 Speaker 12: I'm very interested to see the future can hold it together, 1791 01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:10,679 Speaker 12: you know what I'm saying. 1792 01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:12,680 Speaker 11: Same way we used to wait for jay Z to 1793 01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:13,360 Speaker 11: come out when. 1794 01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:14,040 Speaker 7: It was conserveable. 1795 01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:18,719 Speaker 9: He cut the dreads off he got is he Samson? 1796 01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:20,040 Speaker 7: Did he losing super powers? 1797 01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,559 Speaker 6: I've seen him perform in Atlanta last year and the 1798 01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,439 Speaker 6: energy was still there, the crowd, everything was still rocking. 1799 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:28,880 Speaker 4: The hair is not there, but the energy still is. 1800 01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,120 Speaker 4: That's my concern. So that's what I need. 1801 01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:33,680 Speaker 2: Rob. What were you about to. 1802 01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:40,960 Speaker 1: Say, brother saying something about collaboration. 1803 01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:46,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know he was talking about rapping producer combinations. 1804 01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,519 Speaker 5: Deanie was talking, but I know it's too. In particular 1805 01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:55,320 Speaker 5: that I saw was uh Makami and Conductor, like I 1806 01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:56,920 Speaker 5: think that'll be that'll be dope. 1807 01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:58,120 Speaker 2: I saw. 1808 01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:00,879 Speaker 3: The one that was really interesting was to change static Selector. 1809 01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:05,120 Speaker 7: I saw that, Hey, hey bro, hey look man, static 1810 01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,200 Speaker 7: Selector got a lot of fucking joints with artists that 1811 01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:11,200 Speaker 7: you would have never thought work. And Ken did fucking 1812 01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,920 Speaker 7: the bum beat trip Static three or some ship like that, bro, 1813 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:15,559 Speaker 7: and that ship. 1814 01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:16,759 Speaker 4: That ship moves. 1815 01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,880 Speaker 7: So I'm not like seeing it like on paper is 1816 01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,559 Speaker 7: like oh ship, but like knowing the history of Status 1817 01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,600 Speaker 7: select that what he's been doing the last four or 1818 01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,320 Speaker 7: five years, like it don't surprise me. And it also 1819 01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,479 Speaker 7: doesn't surprise me from too Chase perspective, because he's moving 1820 01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,479 Speaker 7: more into that independent world, like he's like fuck the mainstream. 1821 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,320 Speaker 7: That like I'm doing this ship, which is why he 1822 01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,360 Speaker 7: did the joint with Larry June and Alchemists, Like, who 1823 01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,560 Speaker 7: the fuck at rapping and he's rapping, you know what 1824 01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,960 Speaker 7: I'm saying. So yeah, I'm I'm for it. I think 1825 01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,960 Speaker 7: that's actually gonna be a really good project Alchemists. The 1826 01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,439 Speaker 7: other one that I saw was Alchemist and Big Sean. 1827 01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:58,519 Speaker 4: M so low key. So here's the thing. So, so 1828 01:23:58,640 --> 01:23:59,519 Speaker 4: that is run. 1829 01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,920 Speaker 7: I don't think he will because that collaboration came about 1830 01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:08,200 Speaker 7: when him and Larry June did the Great Escape and 1831 01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,960 Speaker 7: Larry Junes got that Big Sean feature, and that's kind of. 1832 01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,080 Speaker 4: I think it was right, yep yep. 1833 01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:23,320 Speaker 7: So I think if Big Sean puts himself in Alchemist's world, 1834 01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:24,639 Speaker 7: I think he'll be fine. 1835 01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:25,639 Speaker 4: But if Big. 1836 01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,320 Speaker 7: Sean is like Noah, like this is what I want 1837 01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:30,599 Speaker 7: to do and he's making Alchemists conform to being shot, 1838 01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,360 Speaker 7: I think that's gonna be that's gonna be a issue 1839 01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,160 Speaker 7: and it will fuck up Alchemist run. What did you 1840 01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,719 Speaker 7: think about Detroit Too as a platform? 1841 01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,360 Speaker 4: People love it, We ain't like it. 1842 01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,800 Speaker 7: I'm people, I love that project Detroit to. 1843 01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:48,160 Speaker 4: No, that isn't that the one that we just know. 1844 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,920 Speaker 4: That's the one that we just reviewed. That was his 1845 01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:51,439 Speaker 4: last one. 1846 01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:56,280 Speaker 7: It's not even about music that was produced by head Boy. 1847 01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,200 Speaker 4: The first Detroit was good progress coming. 1848 01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:03,519 Speaker 7: I think he was in his bag on Detroit Too. 1849 01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:05,720 Speaker 7: I felt like that's something that that those beats and 1850 01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,000 Speaker 7: that and and the way he sequenced it, even like 1851 01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,040 Speaker 7: the breaks in between the songs. I think that's the bag. 1852 01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:13,240 Speaker 7: And she loves into me personally anyway. 1853 01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:18,920 Speaker 6: Just always it's never his rapping ability. 1854 01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:20,559 Speaker 7: We all know. I just don't see it for him 1855 01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:21,320 Speaker 7: with Alchemists on. 1856 01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,920 Speaker 2: A full project, bro, But that's I think. 1857 01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:25,400 Speaker 4: I think Alchemists can bring him to life. 1858 01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,800 Speaker 6: It's it's it's everything outside of that that I'd be 1859 01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:29,000 Speaker 6: worried about rather. 1860 01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,160 Speaker 7: So hold on, job, I take that back. I think 1861 01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,760 Speaker 7: Detroit Too was all right. So that's the one that 1862 01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,559 Speaker 7: he dropped in twenty twenty Rock the one that we 1863 01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,880 Speaker 7: reviewed was better better than you. 1864 01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:44,880 Speaker 4: That one was was. 1865 01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so yeah, we we're on the same page. 1866 01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:50,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, that one's cool. 1867 01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:52,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I. 1868 01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:55,200 Speaker 4: Like that deep brotherenced. 1869 01:25:55,560 --> 01:26:00,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, for the lyrical nerves out there, the godfin ain't 1870 01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:01,360 Speaker 9: been looking up and craving. 1871 01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,160 Speaker 7: They've been putting on some heat, you know what I mean? 1872 01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:04,519 Speaker 7: Tapping with that. 1873 01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:06,439 Speaker 3: For sure. 1874 01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,559 Speaker 1: That's all the root. Yeah, the roots got something coming out. 1875 01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:14,760 Speaker 1: I think there's another cheat codes coming out. 1876 01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,840 Speaker 11: Yeah, should be dope. 1877 01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:25,800 Speaker 2: Uh. I'll listen to it, but I'm not chasing it, 1878 01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:26,639 Speaker 2: if that makes sense. 1879 01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,880 Speaker 3: I seen being the Alchemist too with forensics. 1880 01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:35,000 Speaker 2: Mmmm. 1881 01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,040 Speaker 3: That could be good, that could be that. 1882 01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:38,360 Speaker 4: Could be crazy, you see. 1883 01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:42,439 Speaker 2: And then y'all messed with Keylock like key. 1884 01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:46,920 Speaker 12: Clock time to make a song man, Me and y'all 1885 01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:48,400 Speaker 12: be sitting Keylock songs. 1886 01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I like missing key Clock, you know. 1887 01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,559 Speaker 9: I think Membhers is my favorite city outside of New 1888 01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,320 Speaker 9: York right now. Like for the Raps, I don't know 1889 01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:56,760 Speaker 9: why I don't like. I don't know what they doing, 1890 01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,960 Speaker 9: but it just it's working for me right now. 1891 01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:02,439 Speaker 7: Low money, hey real quick, let me ask y' all question. 1892 01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:05,080 Speaker 7: Y'all fucking with that Max being uh uh? 1893 01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,200 Speaker 2: All right? So the. 1894 01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,519 Speaker 4: Joints on there, that's like Hiley Flyer Bro Like I. 1895 01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:16,599 Speaker 6: Can't as a total projects, it's not the best work, 1896 01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,760 Speaker 6: but there are there are some heavy hitters on the album. 1897 01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:21,559 Speaker 6: I always say an album is not always gonna be 1898 01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:23,960 Speaker 6: great to everybody. If you got two or three records 1899 01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,839 Speaker 6: that stand out that you can take home from that album. 1900 01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,839 Speaker 4: I think that is an accomplishment of itself. 1901 01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:33,080 Speaker 6: The other since she left me ship Fire and the 1902 01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:36,680 Speaker 6: Ship that Go right after that, the pill shit that 1903 01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,040 Speaker 6: those two back to back bro are like a game 1904 01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:40,639 Speaker 6: changer for me. If I had to do a top 1905 01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,600 Speaker 6: fifty songs for the end of the year, probably be 1906 01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:43,840 Speaker 6: on it. 1907 01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:44,280 Speaker 4: I love them. 1908 01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:48,240 Speaker 9: I just when it comes to Max Bro, I love 1909 01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,120 Speaker 9: but d N and now we're going to the show 1910 01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:53,320 Speaker 9: this Saturday, Like I love Max, you know, but I 1911 01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:57,000 Speaker 9: think he I don't know what to expect, but I'm 1912 01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,599 Speaker 9: giving him a wide runway as far as like allowing 1913 01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:03,040 Speaker 9: him to I'm not paused and applicable, like to really 1914 01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,680 Speaker 9: land the plane and be the Max that we know 1915 01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,080 Speaker 9: in love. But I don't know if he can the Max, 1916 01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,120 Speaker 9: the Max I had to go sit for all the years, 1917 01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:13,240 Speaker 9: the vocal tonality, the ability to whole lot. 1918 01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,880 Speaker 7: No, do those crazy hooks be be the waveist. I 1919 01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:18,599 Speaker 7: haven't heard that yet. I'm not gonna lie to you. 1920 01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:20,519 Speaker 9: I don't want I'm not gonna criticize him because I'm 1921 01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:22,840 Speaker 9: allowing him time to get in shape. I believe that 1922 01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:26,040 Speaker 9: he's still not in rapper shape yet. But I'm winning 1923 01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:27,559 Speaker 9: on the Max. I had to go sit or at 1924 01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:29,680 Speaker 9: least something close to it, because if he's doing all 1925 01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:31,519 Speaker 9: these records and he not even holding the notes and 1926 01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,599 Speaker 9: you got only doing all the vocals, like as far 1927 01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:38,160 Speaker 9: as like the French doing all the melodies, I'm like, 1928 01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:40,080 Speaker 9: that's not the Max I want to hear. That's not 1929 01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,280 Speaker 9: the Max I fell in love with, you know, like 1930 01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,200 Speaker 9: again anytime every year I go through a Max bet 1931 01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:48,479 Speaker 9: Binge were going to right before he had to go. 1932 01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,639 Speaker 7: Sit Max, And I'm like, we haven't heard that guy yet. 1933 01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:52,960 Speaker 7: I'm not sure if he can, and I'd like to 1934 01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,680 Speaker 7: hear it. Can he perform that soft on Saturday? And 1935 01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:56,479 Speaker 7: that sound crazy? 1936 01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:56,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1937 01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:00,639 Speaker 4: I think he can bug these states from the effort 1938 01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:01,080 Speaker 4: in bar. 1939 01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:07,799 Speaker 7: I just feel like Max Max yet that's all yeah, yeah, 1940 01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:09,240 Speaker 7: But it ain't been home long, you know. 1941 01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:10,880 Speaker 6: It's a lot you I mean, I don't think the 1942 01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,280 Speaker 6: niggall be wrapping in the cell for seventeen years. You know, 1943 01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:15,280 Speaker 6: there's a lot of other present interest to worry about. 1944 01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:17,240 Speaker 6: But I'm sure he been home for a bit. I'm 1945 01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:18,880 Speaker 6: sure it's all him. 1946 01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,800 Speaker 7: He was a superhero before he went to jail, like 1947 01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,519 Speaker 7: I need that wavy won. 1948 01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,680 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's the thing, Like you as your guy, as 1949 01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:28,920 Speaker 12: you guys can see what as. 1950 01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:29,320 Speaker 11: New York is. 1951 01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:36,960 Speaker 12: We're very optimistic, yes, really so you know the music 1952 01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:41,559 Speaker 12: hasn't hasn't you know, it hasn't connected, It hasn't, you know, 1953 01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,519 Speaker 12: not the new album, not the other jointy job. 1954 01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:49,200 Speaker 11: But I also agree, he's he's he's clearly not in shape. 1955 01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:50,680 Speaker 11: And and maxis in for me. 1956 01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,479 Speaker 12: Max is in a difficult position because what we loved 1957 01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:57,759 Speaker 12: about Max was the wave, right, the melodies, the humor, 1958 01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:02,040 Speaker 12: you know, the non serious the non seriousness of it. 1959 01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:04,559 Speaker 12: You know, but this is a moment where we kind 1960 01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:06,320 Speaker 12: of want him to get serious, right. We want to 1961 01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,439 Speaker 12: hear what happened. We want to hear what his life 1962 01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:10,599 Speaker 12: is like, want to hear what was going through his mind. 1963 01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:13,200 Speaker 12: So it's like, it may be the things that we're 1964 01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:15,880 Speaker 12: asking for is not things that he can quite deliver 1965 01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:17,200 Speaker 12: with his artistry. 1966 01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,200 Speaker 11: And I feel like that's the difficulty he may be 1967 01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:20,000 Speaker 11: having right now. 1968 01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:25,519 Speaker 1: Well, I got halfway through the album, oh man, so 1969 01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:28,840 Speaker 1: but now that every ever since you left me. 1970 01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:31,760 Speaker 2: That was one that I like, and I gotta I 1971 01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:34,360 Speaker 2: gotta finish it was, I mean, what an hour like? 1972 01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:40,080 Speaker 2: What come on? Many tracks? Stop it? Jeez? The third 1973 01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:46,320 Speaker 2: versus again? Yeah, yeah, all right, a couple of more 1974 01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:48,920 Speaker 2: before we get out of here. Man, appreciate you guys 1975 01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:49,400 Speaker 2: coming through. 1976 01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:53,840 Speaker 1: Man, happy to be here. Just a couple of names 1977 01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:55,479 Speaker 1: I see on here. I'm just going with you. See 1978 01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:55,960 Speaker 1: what I see. 1979 01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,360 Speaker 10: If anything that stands out that I think it'd be 1980 01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:05,240 Speaker 10: interesting that you guys like, uh. 1981 01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:04,960 Speaker 2: You already mentioned the joint. 1982 01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:05,599 Speaker 10: Uh. 1983 01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:08,599 Speaker 2: I guess we'll get the Erica Alchemist joint this year. 1984 01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:12,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't wait. 1985 01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,519 Speaker 7: Yeah, listening to the. 1986 01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:24,160 Speaker 1: Music which one, Yeah, it's a lot of TV as 1987 01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:25,160 Speaker 1: I think sometimes they. 1988 01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:27,800 Speaker 2: Just put it on here and be lying, yeah, I 1989 01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:32,840 Speaker 2: don't see it, you know that. I think the Game 1990 01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:34,360 Speaker 2: Documentary three three. 1991 01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:36,960 Speaker 1: I knew it was something I was missing and apparently 1992 01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,920 Speaker 1: got something on here. But the Game Documentary three is 1993 01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:40,519 Speaker 1: that a real thing? 1994 01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:45,840 Speaker 12: He's dropping this week, He's drop, He's dropping again with 1995 01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:47,040 Speaker 12: d J Drammer this week. 1996 01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:47,599 Speaker 2: Drop. 1997 01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,439 Speaker 4: That's long ago trash. 1998 01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:55,799 Speaker 12: But I know, I think Conway and Bennie are featured 1999 01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:59,919 Speaker 12: on it is so I don't know the game. 2000 01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:01,280 Speaker 11: Even if it's not Documentary three. 2001 01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:03,439 Speaker 12: I feel like we getting the proper amount of game 2002 01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:05,360 Speaker 12: music this year, so I'm not going to say, you know, 2003 01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,080 Speaker 12: if this is heat this, that's good enough for me. 2004 01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:09,480 Speaker 11: I don't really need documentary. 2005 01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:09,720 Speaker 2: Three. 2006 01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:15,400 Speaker 1: Did y'all mention anything about Rocky I. 2007 01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:18,640 Speaker 2: Was. 2008 01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:21,160 Speaker 11: I was looking forward to it before I heard the 2009 01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:21,679 Speaker 11: new joke. 2010 01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:26,800 Speaker 7: That's crazy. Actually, I actually want to hear it more 2011 01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:31,639 Speaker 7: after hearing the first two singles. Yeah, yeah, the first 2012 01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:36,240 Speaker 7: I turned it off. It's because you a hater, Ken, 2013 01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,320 Speaker 7: It's because you're a hater. That's that that that's the 2014 01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:41,439 Speaker 7: reason why you turn that ship off. But not like, like, 2015 01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:43,559 Speaker 7: here's the thing. I don't think that either one of 2016 01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:47,240 Speaker 7: those tracks are stellar on their own, but I want 2017 01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,519 Speaker 7: to hear it in the context of the album because 2018 01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:53,519 Speaker 7: because not his life, not testing, but the one before testing, 2019 01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:55,680 Speaker 7: like that album. If you would have just played me 2020 01:32:56,000 --> 01:33:00,519 Speaker 7: outside of a Lord Pretty Flock with Jody that outside 2021 01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,040 Speaker 7: of that one, you play me any random one, I'm like, well, 2022 01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,679 Speaker 7: how the fun does this like work in the album? 2023 01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:09,200 Speaker 7: But like the album works like in totality, So I 2024 01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:11,719 Speaker 7: think this might be that you know what I'm saying, 2025 01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,840 Speaker 7: So I don't disagree with you based like you know, 2026 01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,200 Speaker 7: I listened to him. I'm not like, oh my god, 2027 01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:19,920 Speaker 7: this ship about to be the craziest ship. It's just like, 2028 01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:22,360 Speaker 7: I'm just I'm reserved. I'm like, Okay, let me hear 2029 01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:24,439 Speaker 7: the album because I don't think they're trash, but they 2030 01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:26,080 Speaker 7: might sound better in the context. 2031 01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:29,120 Speaker 11: I'm not mad at that. And Roy is an album artist, 2032 01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:30,120 Speaker 11: so yeah. 2033 01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:32,840 Speaker 7: I mean, Rocky beat the game. 2034 01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:36,680 Speaker 2: Bro, he's rich, he got Rihanna, he beat the charges. 2035 01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:43,800 Speaker 4: Second, don't be dumb, for real, don't be dumb. 2036 01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:50,000 Speaker 1: Look the clear album of the year. It's going to 2037 01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:52,240 Speaker 1: beat Jill Scott's new album. I just want to put that. 2038 01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:58,599 Speaker 2: Jill Scott's gonna be album. 2039 01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:00,439 Speaker 7: R and B. 2040 01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:09,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, all right, well cool, cool, cool, Okay, well, 2041 01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:10,960 Speaker 1: great conversation. 2042 01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:14,439 Speaker 2: Let's uh hit a couple of super chats real quick. 2043 01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,040 Speaker 2: We got jer me cold. 2044 01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:24,920 Speaker 1: The pressure is on the our, Oh I guess it's 2045 01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:26,360 Speaker 1: only going to be more intensive. 2046 01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,600 Speaker 2: Cold drops an absolutely eater after g n X was 2047 01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:30,360 Speaker 2: such a smash. 2048 01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:35,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, what's pressure on them? 2049 01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,280 Speaker 5: I'm just kind of saying that in the convo we 2050 01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:41,080 Speaker 5: had before the live that Wedrop this week, that that's 2051 01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:41,960 Speaker 5: what I was pretty much. 2052 01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,280 Speaker 2: So now is a good time to ask what did 2053 01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:45,599 Speaker 2: y'all think about the cold single? 2054 01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:52,840 Speaker 6: Don't interesting concept fire video video really made them brought 2055 01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:53,559 Speaker 6: the whole ship home. 2056 01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:58,880 Speaker 9: Clips the two clips we got, which is the clip 2057 01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:01,800 Speaker 9: at the end of the video with the first I'm 2058 01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:03,360 Speaker 9: calling it the street single because I don't know if 2059 01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:05,519 Speaker 9: that's the actual single, and then the first clip that 2060 01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:07,479 Speaker 9: announced the album. I think there's all those all three 2061 01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:10,519 Speaker 9: clips that I heard from Cole today. So s Taer, 2062 01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,080 Speaker 9: everything is es tier from core right now. He's doing 2063 01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,519 Speaker 9: exactly what he needs to do as far as changing 2064 01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:19,160 Speaker 9: the narratives around him. To me again, I'm sorry, there's 2065 01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:21,559 Speaker 9: no escaping it you. It's on your name. 2066 01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:25,280 Speaker 7: As much as you could say he shouldn't, the reality 2067 01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:28,719 Speaker 7: is when you go outside and it's not just us 2068 01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:31,439 Speaker 7: in the pod space or the common sex you had 2069 01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:34,200 Speaker 7: like people, your peers saying these things about you. So 2070 01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:36,479 Speaker 7: he knows, even if let's say he doesn't say nothing 2071 01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:39,120 Speaker 7: to catch it, he knows that this album has to 2072 01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:43,120 Speaker 7: be gassed, has to be Diesel. In fact, you know 2073 01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:44,479 Speaker 7: what I mean, it has to. 2074 01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:47,360 Speaker 9: Be And I think so far from when we heard today, 2075 01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:49,760 Speaker 9: he's approaching this project like it's going to be. 2076 01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:54,040 Speaker 12: That I can agree with that I think it's gonna 2077 01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:56,479 Speaker 12: be fire. And one thing about Cole is that he 2078 01:35:56,560 --> 01:36:00,439 Speaker 12: was in his absolute peak as an artist before this happened. 2079 01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:03,759 Speaker 11: He's gonna on that. 2080 01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:05,960 Speaker 9: All the more reason why he should have gotten the 2081 01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:07,920 Speaker 9: ring with Old Boy probably would have won. 2082 01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,519 Speaker 4: Yep, Yeah, I don't know about that, but. 2083 01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:16,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just trying to stir a little bit. 2084 01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:16,360 Speaker 10: You know. 2085 01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:21,160 Speaker 1: Uh, do y'all think Rapids reached this peak as far 2086 01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:24,120 Speaker 1: as creativity and new innovative sound and flows, everything is 2087 01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:25,360 Speaker 1: starting to get redundant? 2088 01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:30,479 Speaker 6: Nope, Nah, define definitely more values to to to climb over. 2089 01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,120 Speaker 4: Just got to use the antivity and dig deep pause. 2090 01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:36,439 Speaker 12: That's that's when you got to compartmentalize, because all that 2091 01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:38,960 Speaker 12: really mean is that you're getting older. Because shit sounded 2092 01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,439 Speaker 12: better when I was seventeen too. You know what I'm saying, Nah, 2093 01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:42,599 Speaker 12: I think facts. 2094 01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:44,840 Speaker 9: I think there's a situation where like you have like 2095 01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:47,360 Speaker 9: choppy seas, and then there's there's a period where. 2096 01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:49,479 Speaker 7: Everything is smooth. I think everything is smooth right now. 2097 01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:51,160 Speaker 9: That's why I was saying a few minutes ago, there's 2098 01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:52,880 Speaker 9: gonna be an album that's gonna land in the water, 2099 01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:54,760 Speaker 9: cause Mad Waves is gonna shake sh it up and 2100 01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:56,920 Speaker 9: then artists are gonna try to chase that thing. I 2101 01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,400 Speaker 9: just think we're just waiting on our next project to 2102 01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:00,120 Speaker 9: really land. 2103 01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:01,559 Speaker 2: Be like, what the fuck is this? 2104 01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:03,920 Speaker 9: Because as great as the Clips album was last year, 2105 01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:06,160 Speaker 9: I think that was the best album last year, it 2106 01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:09,280 Speaker 9: wasn't like genre shifting on groundbreaking in that it was 2107 01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:11,080 Speaker 9: like I've never heard something like this before, which is 2108 01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:13,439 Speaker 9: really great rap music. There's an album we don't know 2109 01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:15,400 Speaker 9: what it is, but there's an album that's gonna land 2110 01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,160 Speaker 9: that's gonna really be the Keynote period and we're gonna 2111 01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:21,080 Speaker 9: be like, Oh, that's the thing, and there's gonna be 2112 01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:22,320 Speaker 9: a lot of artist chasing behind that. 2113 01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,640 Speaker 2: M Let me ask you this. 2114 01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:29,360 Speaker 1: Do you do you guys think the albums after the 2115 01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:33,840 Speaker 1: Clips album and how that was just we just sat 2116 01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:35,880 Speaker 1: with it, but damn there the whole year. Do you 2117 01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:39,559 Speaker 1: guys think that the album still carry that cultural weight 2118 01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:43,439 Speaker 1: or we're just gonna it's just gonna feel like Timelines now, 2119 01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:45,280 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be here today and gone tomorrow. 2120 01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:46,759 Speaker 7: Good albums stick around. 2121 01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:48,719 Speaker 6: As a person, I was there at the show, shout 2122 01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:51,360 Speaker 6: out to Jovi. You know what I'm saying, Like the 2123 01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:54,160 Speaker 6: energy bro and the craziest part about it, like I've 2124 01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:55,760 Speaker 6: never been to a show where I could look to 2125 01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:57,920 Speaker 6: my left and see a dudeo's fifty, and look to 2126 01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:00,080 Speaker 6: my right and see a dude's eighteen, Like that was 2127 01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,800 Speaker 6: like an eye opening experience for me. And to watch, 2128 01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:05,360 Speaker 6: like to watch those eighteen year olds, like when they 2129 01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:08,360 Speaker 6: play shit like from Lord Willing and Hell Hath No Fury, 2130 01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:11,120 Speaker 6: how they're quiet as church mouse while the fifty forty 2131 01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:13,400 Speaker 6: year olds are going crazy and they hit them, put 2132 01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:15,040 Speaker 6: them like God sort them out. 2133 01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:16,040 Speaker 4: And to see the eighteen year. 2134 01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:19,200 Speaker 6: Olds wild, bro, Like it was an experience to see, 2135 01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:22,200 Speaker 6: like the youth are really fucking with this album, you know, 2136 01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:25,320 Speaker 6: from two fifty year old legendary rappers with it. You know, 2137 01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,559 Speaker 6: I just feel like I'm more worried about what's next, 2138 01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:29,800 Speaker 6: Like maybe the one of the best rolls out we've 2139 01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:31,559 Speaker 6: maybe the best roll out we've seen in the last 2140 01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:34,840 Speaker 6: with five to ten years, Like it just everything worked 2141 01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:36,080 Speaker 6: out beautifully for these dudes. 2142 01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:37,920 Speaker 4: And the crazy part is it was so organic. 2143 01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:41,120 Speaker 6: Nothing felt forced, from the Louis Vuitton to the interviews 2144 01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:41,719 Speaker 6: that they did. 2145 01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:43,559 Speaker 4: It just it was so natural, bro. 2146 01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:45,439 Speaker 6: It felt like hip hop, you know what I'm saying, 2147 01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:47,800 Speaker 6: and I just think the game, the game's missing that. 2148 01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:49,559 Speaker 4: And I love the energy they brought with that. 2149 01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:52,559 Speaker 7: Cold doing that. Right now, I think this is just 2150 01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:53,479 Speaker 7: phase one for j Car. 2151 01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:55,400 Speaker 9: I think he gonna take a lot of the same 2152 01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:57,679 Speaker 9: steps that close they were putting this album on, really 2153 01:38:57,800 --> 01:38:59,719 Speaker 9: building the anticipation over the next few weeks. 2154 01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:02,680 Speaker 4: He ice skating up a hill. Though right now it's 2155 01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:03,080 Speaker 4: a lot of. 2156 01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:07,320 Speaker 9: Double you dropping a double album. We know, we all 2157 01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,240 Speaker 9: know the rules, like you know, they say there's no 2158 01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:11,120 Speaker 9: rules to rap, but all all of the golds or 2159 01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:13,240 Speaker 9: the guys who are considered in that conversation, they got 2160 01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:14,160 Speaker 9: one of those to their name. 2161 01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:17,360 Speaker 7: So this is an interesting task. It's different. 2162 01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:20,120 Speaker 9: It's an interesting challenge, I believe for Cole, especially at 2163 01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,320 Speaker 9: this point in his career with everything that's surrounded his name. 2164 01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:25,160 Speaker 12: That's the thing about the clips, Like when you talk 2165 01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:29,080 Speaker 12: about cultural relevancy and how much it meant to think 2166 01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:32,720 Speaker 12: that the clips were very intentional about specifically that they 2167 01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:34,840 Speaker 12: made you care before the album drop, they made you 2168 01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:36,960 Speaker 12: care win the album drop, and they still making us 2169 01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,080 Speaker 12: care now, right so there has to be a lot 2170 01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:39,519 Speaker 12: more of that. 2171 01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:40,040 Speaker 11: You know. 2172 01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:41,439 Speaker 7: Gn X is. 2173 01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,639 Speaker 12: Great music, but you're telling me that that world famous 2174 01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:48,240 Speaker 12: tour where we seeing the whole world bumping the album 2175 01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:51,920 Speaker 12: then add to its lore and add to its cultural relevancy. 2176 01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:54,960 Speaker 11: Artists gotta act like they give a fuck, you know. 2177 01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:57,080 Speaker 12: What I'm saying. They gotta they gotta make they gotta 2178 01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:59,200 Speaker 12: make us give a fuck. If they treated like some 2179 01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:01,280 Speaker 12: ship that they you know, drop and they go to 2180 01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:04,920 Speaker 12: the laundry tomorrow, then then even if we love the music, 2181 01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:07,000 Speaker 12: we're gonna treat it like that, you know what I'm saying. 2182 01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:10,080 Speaker 12: So artists have to they gotta sell a little bit 2183 01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:12,800 Speaker 12: more for it to you know, it's it's twenty twenty six. 2184 01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:14,960 Speaker 12: The audience is a little bit smarter than it used 2185 01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:19,080 Speaker 12: to be, you know, So we gotta they gotta be intentional. 2186 01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:20,920 Speaker 11: With with with that specifically for it to happen. 2187 01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:23,880 Speaker 2: Gotcha. Uh. 2188 01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:27,559 Speaker 1: I love what people says I don't disagree and then 2189 01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,120 Speaker 1: spends the whole streams disagree. 2190 01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:36,040 Speaker 7: And when I say that, I have so many fucking 2191 01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:39,000 Speaker 7: catchphrases on that, it hip hop up. When I say that, 2192 01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:41,559 Speaker 7: it's typically like one or two points that I don't 2193 01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:44,720 Speaker 7: disagree with, but I may disagree with everything else. So 2194 01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:49,000 Speaker 7: that you know, I'm gonna speak my mind broke. 2195 01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:53,680 Speaker 2: Uh last to uh osten out the cloud. We need it. 2196 01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:56,280 Speaker 1: It's from Meling the Man and Wrap Roundtable. There were 2197 01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:58,719 Speaker 1: fifty nine folks there. 2198 01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:00,559 Speaker 2: Apologize. 2199 01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:04,240 Speaker 4: Left before the BS is crazy. 2200 01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:09,200 Speaker 7: Oh man, man, what's good? 2201 01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:09,720 Speaker 2: What's good? 2202 01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:10,000 Speaker 7: Man? 2203 01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:12,920 Speaker 2: It's fifty two thousand, fifty two. 2204 01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:14,280 Speaker 11: We round up. 2205 01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:18,960 Speaker 1: You know that's funny and uh portagoals Hey, all things 2206 01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:19,519 Speaker 1: for the content. 2207 01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:21,080 Speaker 2: Salute to the Wrap round Table. 2208 01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:25,479 Speaker 1: One gotta go the Forever story, Oxymoron Sylvia Demo or 2209 01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:26,680 Speaker 1: the off season. 2210 01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:28,920 Speaker 7: No off season. I don't even gotta blink. 2211 01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,280 Speaker 6: I really loved the Forever story. I can't hold you 2212 01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:33,280 Speaker 6: Octually one was amazing. 2213 01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:36,320 Speaker 2: Story. 2214 01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:38,920 Speaker 7: Let me just let me just keep the intro off 2215 01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:44,160 Speaker 7: the off season and then the rest of it can go. 2216 01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:47,280 Speaker 4: I need that ninety five South bro. 2217 01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:52,080 Speaker 7: That's to me, that's tough, but it was in comparison 2218 01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:54,760 Speaker 7: to this, that's the easiest pigure it is. 2219 01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:55,920 Speaker 11: The story could go for me. 2220 01:41:56,479 --> 01:42:01,040 Speaker 7: Damn you hey, unpopular opinion. And even though I've come 2221 01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:04,200 Speaker 7: around on this project, I don't think Sevia Demo has 2222 01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:09,160 Speaker 7: aged disgracefully as some of these other ones. I fuck 2223 01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:11,320 Speaker 7: with it now, I funck with it now. I'm not 2224 01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:14,280 Speaker 7: saying it's bad. I'm just saying, like as his age, 2225 01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:15,000 Speaker 7: I don't know. 2226 01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:17,800 Speaker 4: As good as the first time I heard it. 2227 01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:20,880 Speaker 7: I meant it to last like that, it's supposed to 2228 01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:22,240 Speaker 7: be the true time, you know what I mean. 2229 01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:24,679 Speaker 4: That's true, that's true. That's true. 2230 01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:29,000 Speaker 7: But I'm still taking the off season though. Just give 2231 01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:33,280 Speaker 7: me the intro you taken off season off? Yeah, the 2232 01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:35,639 Speaker 7: off season can go. That's the one that can go here. 2233 01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:37,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm with you. 2234 01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:39,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I might be with you. 2235 01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:40,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2236 01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:44,400 Speaker 5: I don't even go back to that album. 2237 01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:48,600 Speaker 7: I go back to ninety five soft that nigga I 2238 01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,240 Speaker 7: didn't know. I need to call over some some. 2239 01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:55,760 Speaker 6: Conversation about forests, drive and the kod A lot more 2240 01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:57,719 Speaker 6: conversation than you do about the off season. 2241 01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:06,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, all right, so the close us out, Uh, everybody, 2242 01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:08,960 Speaker 1: before we get out, just if you have an answer 2243 01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:13,479 Speaker 1: one thing you're optimistic about in twenty twenty six and 2244 01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:17,720 Speaker 1: one thing you're concerned or skeptical about in twenty twenty six. 2245 01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:29,320 Speaker 6: Optimistic about optimistic about Dochi making her run for the 2246 01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:35,400 Speaker 6: lady crown. Thing that has the trepidation, who gonna save stove? 2247 01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:38,840 Speaker 6: Who's gonna get him out of this contract? Who's gonna 2248 01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:39,519 Speaker 6: put the bread up? 2249 01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:43,120 Speaker 4: Is it whole? Is it nas? Is it someone we need? 2250 01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:47,240 Speaker 6: We need Stove to really like get off this contract 2251 01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:48,599 Speaker 6: and make the music we know he can make. 2252 01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:48,800 Speaker 2: Bro. 2253 01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:52,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say. 2254 01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:56,160 Speaker 7: The one thing I'm optimistic about is I think I'm 2255 01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:59,160 Speaker 7: optimistic twenty twenty six is gonna be the the best 2256 01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:02,760 Speaker 7: year so far that hip hop has had. I'm optimistic 2257 01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,479 Speaker 7: about that. The one thing I worried about, and this 2258 01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:08,040 Speaker 7: is just me being a super fan of this particular artist. 2259 01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:11,439 Speaker 7: We're never gonna get a Nipsey Hustle project again. 2260 01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:12,840 Speaker 2: M hm. 2261 01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:21,080 Speaker 6: I see it like if it's if it's already like 2262 01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:24,200 Speaker 6: in the stash, Like I respect if they want to 2263 01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:27,000 Speaker 6: put it out, but those cook up possumous albums. 2264 01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:29,640 Speaker 4: Bro. 2265 01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:33,880 Speaker 7: Yeah No, But his brother said that they already had. 2266 01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:38,679 Speaker 7: You know, Nipsey was very strategic, so Black Sam already 2267 01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:40,920 Speaker 7: said like they already had stuff, and it was a 2268 01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:42,439 Speaker 7: couple of years ago. They said, oh yeah, you know 2269 01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:45,760 Speaker 7: we're gonna drop. It just hasn't dropped. But I'm cool 2270 01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:48,559 Speaker 7: with not getting anything, you know what I'm saying, because 2271 01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,760 Speaker 7: obviously he's no longer here. But if we do, I 2272 01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:54,120 Speaker 7: don't want to cook up. I want something that was 2273 01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:57,040 Speaker 7: already you know there. You know, if you add a 2274 01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:59,360 Speaker 7: feature here and there to fill out us or finished 2275 01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:02,080 Speaker 7: or something that's but like it had to be with 2276 01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:04,640 Speaker 7: the intent that Nipsey had. Nobody else is going to 2277 01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:06,920 Speaker 7: know that attack outside of Black Sam. But you know, 2278 01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:09,599 Speaker 7: as another year passes, I just I don't. I don't. 2279 01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:10,360 Speaker 4: I don't think we're. 2280 01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:12,760 Speaker 7: Gonna see it bro and and again, I'm okay with it, 2281 01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:15,840 Speaker 7: but I would love to have another Nipsey project. 2282 01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:22,320 Speaker 12: I'm optimistic that we will get more than one classic 2283 01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:24,800 Speaker 12: this year and rap. I don't think it's I think 2284 01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:26,840 Speaker 12: the last few years it could be argued that we've 2285 01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:30,960 Speaker 12: had one you know, different artists repping for different things. 2286 01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:35,080 Speaker 12: And I am nervous about the effects of AI in 2287 01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:35,919 Speaker 12: hip hop. 2288 01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:37,719 Speaker 11: But the music industry in general. 2289 01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:40,479 Speaker 12: I feel like when when you look behind the scenes 2290 01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,880 Speaker 12: and you look the way u MG and Spotify and 2291 01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:48,920 Speaker 12: all of these big music you know entities are patent 2292 01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:52,240 Speaker 12: and AI and and and you notice all of all 2293 01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:54,000 Speaker 12: the producers are now trying to get. 2294 01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:56,639 Speaker 11: Us cup and say, hey, AI is not so bad. 2295 01:45:56,720 --> 01:46:01,240 Speaker 12: Guys, like the effects of it is gonna really show 2296 01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:03,639 Speaker 12: rear its ugly head this year, you know what I mean, 2297 01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:06,640 Speaker 12: especially when you also look at the majority of our 2298 01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:09,600 Speaker 12: favorite artists sold their entire catalogs. 2299 01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:16,280 Speaker 2: It's that too. Well, go ahead, then I'll back out. 2300 01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:24,320 Speaker 9: Very optimistic because I like themes and connective threads throughout 2301 01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:28,080 Speaker 9: the pod. Very optimist that j Cole will snatch his 2302 01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:30,920 Speaker 9: name back and you know, go up the block and 2303 01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:33,080 Speaker 9: see de boy and do what's necessary. He might not 2304 01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:36,840 Speaker 9: win the fight, but I fully anticipate and expect that 2305 01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:39,080 Speaker 9: he will get. 2306 01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:39,840 Speaker 7: To smut off his knee. 2307 01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:42,120 Speaker 9: That That's why I'm at right now with it, and 2308 01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:45,200 Speaker 9: the overarching thread is just I think where we are 2309 01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:49,240 Speaker 9: towards the end of twenty twenty five as far as lyricism, 2310 01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:51,920 Speaker 9: the actual hip hop culture, not the mainstream here, but 2311 01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:55,440 Speaker 9: actual hip hop continuing to elevate and grabbing a stranglehold 2312 01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:59,080 Speaker 9: of rap music because again there's the industry raptors. 2313 01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:00,719 Speaker 7: The business of Raptor is hip hop culture. 2314 01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:02,920 Speaker 9: And I think as far as as long as hip 2315 01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:05,879 Speaker 9: hop culture is it control of what's. 2316 01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:07,599 Speaker 7: Good and what's not good, we're in a good space. 2317 01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:09,960 Speaker 9: I think we're gonna see a continued elevation of that, 2318 01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:13,160 Speaker 9: and I think that's gonna help bring back good faith 2319 01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:16,000 Speaker 9: negotiations with these labels because some of these artists, we 2320 01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:18,000 Speaker 9: can't control what they do, right, some of these artists 2321 01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:20,400 Speaker 9: want to get deals, But I'd rather lays get a 2322 01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:22,160 Speaker 9: deal with some hip hop shit as opposed to go 2323 01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:24,639 Speaker 9: on viral on Instagram or TikTok making some bullshit. 2324 01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,000 Speaker 7: So I think that that's gonna be a good thing. 2325 01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:29,960 Speaker 7: As far as trepidation goes, I don't know, don't. I 2326 01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:31,280 Speaker 7: don't feel very negative. I don't. 2327 01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:33,120 Speaker 9: This is one of the rare times in rap or 2328 01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:36,360 Speaker 9: hip hop where I don't. I'm not really concerned about anything. 2329 01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:38,040 Speaker 9: I just think that we're in a good spot. I 2330 01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:39,840 Speaker 9: think the stock this is a good stock to buy 2331 01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:42,439 Speaker 9: right now with hip hop, I'm not really concerned. I 2332 01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:45,800 Speaker 9: guess there's certain fan bases that might be concerned. If 2333 01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:48,040 Speaker 9: you're a Drake fan, you should be concerned because what 2334 01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:50,040 Speaker 9: is Iceman gonna sound like? Because at the end of 2335 01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:51,920 Speaker 9: the day, I think for Bid or Worse that is 2336 01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:54,080 Speaker 9: the most anticipated album of twenty twenty six. 2337 01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:56,240 Speaker 7: Say what you want to say about aubreing upset a lot. 2338 01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:58,400 Speaker 7: It is the most anticipated album of the Year. But 2339 01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:04,439 Speaker 7: basically we've heard late last year it ain't landing. It's 2340 01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:05,679 Speaker 7: not landing, it's missing. 2341 01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:09,240 Speaker 9: So if this album doesn't land, I think this is 2342 01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:11,120 Speaker 9: the series finale for Drake as a rapper. 2343 01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:13,800 Speaker 7: I've jokingly said, but super series. I think he needs 2344 01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:16,280 Speaker 7: to go to the floor Riddle League. If this album 2345 01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:20,080 Speaker 7: don't do what it's supposed to do creatively, statistically, whatever, 2346 01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:22,360 Speaker 7: he needs to go to the floor Ridley, make the 2347 01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:25,040 Speaker 7: pop records for movie scores and shit like that, and 2348 01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:25,840 Speaker 7: just go over there. 2349 01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:28,040 Speaker 9: He has to land with this project. I think there's 2350 01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:29,920 Speaker 9: a lot of pressure on j Cole as well. Those 2351 01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:32,880 Speaker 9: guys have to deliver. I look at the two thirds 2352 01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:35,120 Speaker 9: of the Big Three. They positions are in question right now, 2353 01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:37,160 Speaker 9: and it's guys is on an ascent that want to 2354 01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:38,920 Speaker 9: move them out the way. I think that Tyler Creative 2355 01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:41,599 Speaker 9: belongs in that Big Three conversation, and I think that 2356 01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:43,880 Speaker 9: one of these two drops this year might not deliver, 2357 01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:45,800 Speaker 9: you're gonna have to bump them up in that power ranking. 2358 01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:47,200 Speaker 7: So that's how I look at it. 2359 01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:50,320 Speaker 9: I think it's individual concerns with any overarching concerns. When 2360 01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:52,320 Speaker 9: rap hip hop none, I think we're in a great 2361 01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:53,320 Speaker 9: spot right now. 2362 01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:56,360 Speaker 7: Jarv, I'm gonna say this, and like you know, I'm 2363 01:48:56,360 --> 01:49:00,200 Speaker 7: not necessarily the biggest Drake fan, but I just even 2364 01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:04,479 Speaker 7: if this don't land, I think Drake's position is part 2365 01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:07,000 Speaker 7: of the Big three is like it's cemented, bro, Like, 2366 01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:09,479 Speaker 7: I don't think he could fall off out of the 2367 01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:10,200 Speaker 7: Big three. 2368 01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:11,840 Speaker 4: So I just don't. 2369 01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:16,040 Speaker 7: Well, no, I think I think Cole is to a degree, 2370 01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:20,200 Speaker 7: is cemented to I think I think of this generation 2371 01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:23,920 Speaker 7: of this era, like, you know, there's people that we 2372 01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:26,719 Speaker 7: can mention, like Tyler the Creator. I one million percent agree, 2373 01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:29,240 Speaker 7: especially over the last you know, two three projects that 2374 01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:35,880 Speaker 7: he's had. But but Bro, Drake, k Dot Cole, like 2375 01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:40,200 Speaker 7: that is the trinity of you know, the what we 2376 01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:44,040 Speaker 7: call it the. 2377 01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:43,000 Speaker 4: The blog era. 2378 01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:46,720 Speaker 7: They're the trinity of the blog era, Bro, And I 2379 01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:48,719 Speaker 7: don't think nobody takes that spot. 2380 01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:49,360 Speaker 3: Now. 2381 01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:50,439 Speaker 4: If you want to say. 2382 01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:52,439 Speaker 7: That there's gonna be another trinity or something like that, 2383 01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:55,160 Speaker 7: or you know, for for whatever we call this era 2384 01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:59,840 Speaker 7: of music Internet, I don't know, okay, But like those 2385 01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:02,760 Speaker 7: are the goats of that era, Bro, I don't think. 2386 01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:07,120 Speaker 7: I don't think nobody could be replaced. I feel like 2387 01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:09,680 Speaker 7: it's been too much smut since twenty twenty four for 2388 01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:11,760 Speaker 7: us to ignore that conversation. 2389 01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:14,160 Speaker 6: When Thief said that, I looked at me like this 2390 01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:17,720 Speaker 6: nigga talking what. 2391 01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:20,920 Speaker 2: It is? 2392 01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:25,479 Speaker 7: You know, you gotta embassy. 2393 01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:27,040 Speaker 2: I think what's going on. 2394 01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:29,160 Speaker 4: This is not Obo Fifo though. 2395 01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:32,920 Speaker 7: I'm just I'm just speaking facts in the sense that 2396 01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:35,799 Speaker 7: you know, Drake is just he's one of those guys. 2397 01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:35,960 Speaker 3: Bro. 2398 01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:36,720 Speaker 4: And here's the thing. 2399 01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:39,880 Speaker 7: Even if I don't think that, I I think I 2400 01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:43,439 Speaker 7: hope ice Man is good, right, even if it's not good. 2401 01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:47,120 Speaker 7: Just looking at the history of Drake, you're gonna have 2402 01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:50,240 Speaker 7: two to three smash joints that you're not gonna be 2403 01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:52,600 Speaker 7: able to run from. That is gonna be dominant on 2404 01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:55,160 Speaker 7: the radio that people are gonna fuck with, right, Like 2405 01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:57,160 Speaker 7: even the last project, we ain't really fuck with No 2406 01:50:57,240 --> 01:51:02,200 Speaker 7: Kill like that. But Ship No Kill was small for Drake, 2407 01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:05,200 Speaker 7: but big for any other rap artists, you know what 2408 01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:07,800 Speaker 7: I'm saying. So he's always gonna have a handful of those, 2409 01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:10,559 Speaker 7: and because of that, you can't take his position. 2410 01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:14,320 Speaker 9: But that Simmy ain't stimmy with twenty one though, So 2411 01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:15,960 Speaker 9: it's questions that need answers. 2412 01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:19,479 Speaker 4: On his next project, Black Talk, he think he got ten. 2413 01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:23,600 Speaker 6: He's the first rapper with ten number one albums and 2414 01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:25,599 Speaker 6: the Billboard Top one hundred or something like that. Like 2415 01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:28,120 Speaker 6: that's that's crazy. You know, that's a crazy accomplishment, even 2416 01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:30,720 Speaker 6: with the whole you know, he's falling. 2417 01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:32,759 Speaker 7: From the highest point on the planet, but he's still falling. 2418 01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:38,639 Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, it's just drap right what you got right? 2419 01:51:40,240 --> 01:51:43,200 Speaker 5: I mean, he like just said it's I don't know what's 2420 01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:46,320 Speaker 5: equal talking about, but like yeah, because I mean he 2421 01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:48,200 Speaker 5: smith snitched on hip hop. 2422 01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:54,840 Speaker 7: And we're still talking about it and we're still talking 2423 01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:55,240 Speaker 7: about it. 2424 01:51:57,439 --> 01:52:00,479 Speaker 5: No, No, he doesn't have that momental even in and stuff, 2425 01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:02,360 Speaker 5: all that stuff would have been still smack right now, 2426 01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,160 Speaker 5: and it's just not all that stuff is like coming 2427 01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:07,599 Speaker 5: going like that's not that. Yeah, Drake, No, he's still 2428 01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:10,639 Speaker 5: you don't even look alive right now. Like I don't 2429 01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:11,320 Speaker 5: know who's like. 2430 01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:14,120 Speaker 2: His song is going. 2431 01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:15,240 Speaker 3: Like like, all I'm. 2432 01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:17,880 Speaker 7: Saying is if he goes from number one, his fall 2433 01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:20,240 Speaker 7: off is three. That's all I'm saying. 2434 01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:24,200 Speaker 4: I mean, he's only. 2435 01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:26,839 Speaker 5: Gonna gonna chart because people are interested. They're just interested 2436 01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:28,960 Speaker 5: to see what he's gonna do. It's not because oh man, 2437 01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:30,920 Speaker 5: I love Drake and I love this music. It's just 2438 01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,479 Speaker 5: gonna be just interested to see what he does. But 2439 01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:35,240 Speaker 5: I don't want to have a Drake conversation right now. 2440 01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:40,439 Speaker 5: I'm but like I'm Mason, like like it's interesting with 2441 01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:41,479 Speaker 5: the not interesting. 2442 01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:43,720 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just scary what the AI is doing 2443 01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:46,200 Speaker 3: right now. Like and I think, you know. 2444 01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:48,760 Speaker 5: Big labels, big people that are in place, are gonna 2445 01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:51,200 Speaker 5: kind of try to push that. So I do like 2446 01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:55,320 Speaker 5: the fact when we talk about optimism that the artists 2447 01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:58,280 Speaker 5: are kind of taking their own and making their own 2448 01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:01,080 Speaker 5: and not worrying about the charts and all that and 2449 01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:03,360 Speaker 5: just you know, worried about just cultivating their music and 2450 01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:04,960 Speaker 5: making what they want to make. I think that's gonna 2451 01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:07,920 Speaker 5: be important going into this new year with all the 2452 01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:10,200 Speaker 5: AI and not just the music just everywhere. I'm seeing 2453 01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:12,960 Speaker 5: it everywhere. So yeah, I mean, they is it's a 2454 01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:17,479 Speaker 5: heavy push right now, so that is a concern of mine. 2455 01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:21,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think, you know, art will prevail. 2456 01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:25,400 Speaker 5: Artists will prevail in every capacity, So we just got 2457 01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:26,800 Speaker 5: to you know, stand strong. 2458 01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:32,080 Speaker 1: Acts got it and uh And what I'll say as 2459 01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:37,960 Speaker 1: we uh in the show, I'm sort of optimistic man 2460 01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:42,679 Speaker 1: that you know, we may get another uh massive peel 2461 01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:43,799 Speaker 1: Legit have a series. 2462 01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:44,680 Speaker 2: I think that that. 2463 01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:48,360 Speaker 1: Will be dope to get another one of those. You know, 2464 01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:51,400 Speaker 1: I like, what what nas did you know for? You know, 2465 01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:54,920 Speaker 1: old heads like me that she was dope and the 2466 01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:58,240 Speaker 1: music was was was on part too, So I did 2467 01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:00,919 Speaker 1: like that, and I think. 2468 01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:04,280 Speaker 2: That yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2469 01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:06,080 Speaker 1: I didn't have an issue with it like a lot 2470 01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:10,680 Speaker 1: of folk did. Like sound like you did, sound like you. 2471 01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:14,200 Speaker 4: I had an issue. 2472 01:54:14,439 --> 01:54:15,559 Speaker 3: He was on the right side of the. 2473 01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:24,160 Speaker 1: Opinion, but U but nah, I think he did. He 2474 01:54:24,240 --> 01:54:26,880 Speaker 1: did something great for us, man, And I thought that 2475 01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:29,800 Speaker 1: that was dope. And you know, I like where where 2476 01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:31,720 Speaker 1: we are right now in terms of the segmentation with 2477 01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:35,400 Speaker 1: hip hop. That being said, though, the concern would be 2478 01:54:35,560 --> 01:54:38,520 Speaker 1: the opposite of that, because I'm seeing a lot of 2479 01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:42,760 Speaker 1: old heads drop music, and I'm concerned about the young kids, man, 2480 01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:45,680 Speaker 1: the young cats, man, Like, where are the new guys 2481 01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:49,120 Speaker 1: that's gonna come forward and keep this thing going, man, 2482 01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:51,080 Speaker 1: and keep this thing alive. You know, we had a 2483 01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:55,000 Speaker 1: conversation earlier about it. So we'll see how down on 2484 01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:57,400 Speaker 1: folds and see if we get some some rising star 2485 01:54:58,240 --> 01:55:01,480 Speaker 1: in six or is it just gonna be honest? 2486 01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:05,200 Speaker 10: Continue to make music until you know, we're sixty and 2487 01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:07,040 Speaker 10: seventy and that'll be a wrap. 2488 01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:11,000 Speaker 2: So oh but yeah, that's it. 2489 01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:11,320 Speaker 1: Man. 2490 01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:14,720 Speaker 2: Again, fellas, appreciate having you guys on board. Man, it 2491 01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:16,480 Speaker 2: was it's fun. Man. 2492 01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:20,040 Speaker 7: I enjoyed this definitely. 2493 01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:24,440 Speaker 5: Nah yeah, we definitely gotta make this a habit this year, man, 2494 01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:26,840 Speaker 5: like like, it's good to have this energy on you. Man, 2495 01:55:26,920 --> 01:55:30,680 Speaker 5: Really appreciate you guys. Really like what you guys are doing. 2496 01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:34,360 Speaker 5: Appreciate y'all being persistent in trying to make this happen. 2497 01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:38,720 Speaker 5: So yeah, man, definitely gonna return that on our end 2498 01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:40,160 Speaker 5: to make it happen more often. 2499 01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:41,680 Speaker 3: If you guys for. 2500 01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:44,040 Speaker 7: That, absolutely, you gotta come to our block. 2501 01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:47,480 Speaker 2: Now, let's do it. 2502 01:55:47,600 --> 01:55:49,680 Speaker 3: Let's do it, let's do it. Let's set it up man. 2503 01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:55,560 Speaker 7: You know Dani or Maje, y'all want to come through 2504 01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:58,280 Speaker 7: to every Tuesday. Man, we do that as sports my boy, you. 2505 01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:01,840 Speaker 4: Know that basketball ship. 2506 01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:05,160 Speaker 7: Let's do it now, let's get in to it. 2507 01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:05,120 Speaker 4: The right ones. 2508 01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:06,240 Speaker 11: I ain't gonna hold you. 2509 01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:06,560 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 2510 01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:10,440 Speaker 7: All right, we love sports water rap actually you know, hey, hey. 2511 01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:13,680 Speaker 2: Me too, me too. 2512 01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:14,960 Speaker 4: That's my first love. 2513 01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:17,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I can't even imagine that. 2514 01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:25,880 Speaker 2: Oh god, bro, Man, Oh god bro. Yeah, we're saying something. 2515 01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:28,200 Speaker 7: Who is it Kobe or Lebron? That's how that's I 2516 01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:29,360 Speaker 7: need to know from me right now. 2517 01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:36,720 Speaker 4: Lbj ah night war A long night. Let's go. 2518 01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:40,160 Speaker 7: I'm here for it. 2519 01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:42,520 Speaker 4: Let's go on that note. 2520 01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well that's it. Man is officially kicked off. 2521 01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:49,280 Speaker 7: Man. 2522 01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:53,640 Speaker 1: We're we're looking forward to the year a more immersed 2523 01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:56,400 Speaker 1: spirit experience with all of you guys that are watching. 2524 01:56:57,480 --> 01:57:00,200 Speaker 1: Let's keep this thing going, man, and with that, we 2525 01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:03,520 Speaker 1: are out these appreciate y'all. 2526 01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:04,440 Speaker 4: Man, this