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Speaker 1: We haven't done this in a while. Let's play a

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Speaker 1: heated round of is it racist? It's time to play

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Speaker 1: is h racist? Now? If you're new to the program,

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Speaker 1: here to explain the rules of engagement, socialist sweetheart aoc

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Speaker 1: Is it racist? Is something racist? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Or no?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: Nige?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of the Kinpom Ratings for college basketball?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: So, Ken Pomroy. He's a sports statistics guy, and he

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Speaker 1: puts these rankings out of players, coaches, and teams based

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Speaker 1: off a number of different mathematical factors, strength of schedule,

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Speaker 1: returning players, conference, that type of thing, and he puts

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Speaker 1: it together in a thing called the kin Pom Ratings,

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Speaker 1: based after his name. Gotch Georgetown's head coach Ed Cooley,

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Speaker 1: who is a black guy, has filed a lawsuit against

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Speaker 1: kin Pom, stating that his algorithm perpetuates systematic racial bias

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Speaker 1: and evaluating players, coaches, and programs.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Pomroy, the guy behind the Ken Palm ratings, has declined

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Speaker 1: to comment about this matter, but he in the past

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Speaker 1: has always stated it's statistic based, statistic based. Is this racist?

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Speaker 2: Statistic based? Systemic racial bias in evaluating players, coaches, and programs?

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Speaker 2: But he doesn't give examples. He's just using stats, facts, figures.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 2: We're right. We had this thing a few years ago

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Speaker 2: regarding crime statistics, and I think, I don't know as

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Speaker 2: one of the news stations that called them.

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Speaker 1: Hate facts, hate facts.

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Speaker 2: They were facts, but they were still hateful even though

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Speaker 2: they were true, because.

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Speaker 1: They showed certain minorities were committing more crimes.

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Speaker 2: So what do you tell me? You seem to know

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Speaker 2: more about Kimpom than I do. I don't know the

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Speaker 2: I don't know where the racial bias is coming from.

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Speaker 2: Is he is this guy saying, yeah, well he's I'm

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Speaker 2: factoring his race into these algorithms.

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Speaker 1: No, Oh, kent Pom is all about the work on

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Speaker 1: the court, and any hardcore gambler knows that the ken

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Speaker 1: Pom ratings goes back to this so much more of

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Speaker 1: a resource than like the AP top twenty five. Absolutely

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Speaker 1: where you're at in kim Pom is so much more

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Speaker 1: of an in depth statistical piece of information and it

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Speaker 1: helps a lot of gamblers.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: And here's what you got to know about the kin

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Speaker 1: Pom ratings. On his list of the best active college

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Speaker 1: basketball coaches, Okay, coming in at number one is Kelvin's

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Speaker 1: really Kelvin Samson's not a white guy. He identifies as

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Speaker 1: both Native American and Black. Kelvin Sampson has been like

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Speaker 1: an advocate for both Native American and black causes. He's

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Speaker 1: number one on the list of best active coaches in

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Speaker 1: the Ken Palm Raidings.

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Speaker 2: Who does he He's Houston right, He's basketball team correct.

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Speaker 2: I still don't know where race is factoring into this

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Speaker 2: at all.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like Ed Cooley, who used to be just

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Speaker 1: kind of a chill, fun, you know, fiery coach. Georgetown's

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Speaker 1: starting to get to him a little bit because Georgetown

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Speaker 1: is just a leftist hell hole, famous for a lot

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Speaker 1: of their attorneys, but it's a leftist hellhole. And I'm

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Speaker 1: wondering if he's getting some sort of pressure from the

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Speaker 1: admin or the university to talk about why his team

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Speaker 1: isn't ranked as high as it should and this is

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Speaker 1: an excuse that he wants to put out there. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is an excuse that Coach Cooley

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Speaker 1: could put out at Georgetown and they would buy it. Now,

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Speaker 1: his team has been a little underwhelming so far. It's

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Speaker 1: early in the season, but there's not a lot of

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Speaker 1: expectations really, and Georgetown hasn't really mattered since John Thompson

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Speaker 1: was the coach years ago, so I think they're thirsty

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Speaker 1: to get back to being good again. They go out

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Speaker 1: of their way to hire a guy they think is

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Speaker 1: a good coach, and when things aren't going well, well,

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Speaker 1: it's because of the kin Pom ratings.

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Speaker 2: And they're racist, But the kin Pom ratings, So what

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Speaker 2: what does that have to do with their basketball team

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Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form, race regardless, right, And

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Speaker 2: I know you said gambling.

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Speaker 1: I think some polsters might look at the kin Pom

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Speaker 1: ratings as a way for them to kind of put

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Speaker 1: their top twenty five lists together, gotcha, But I mean

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Speaker 1: it's a specific algorithm that goes on here. So now

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Speaker 1: this is a big nothing burger. To me, that sounds

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Speaker 1: like it