1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: And Grand Rising family, thanks for starting your week with 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: us and also celebrating the one hundredth anniversary of Black 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: History Month, something you know we do here each and 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: every day. Later, futuristic researcher Sidi Gibacari, we'll take a 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: deep dive into AI artificial intelligence. He'll explain if it's 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: a digital prison or as are providing algorithmic freedom for us. 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: But before brother Sadiki Sister Filet will shed light on 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: the hundreds of missing Black women and girls, and momentarily 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: a tree of authors and illustrators whill highlight some of 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: their works. But first us get Kevin to open these 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: classroom doors this Monday morning, Grand Rising, Kevin. 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: Hey, Happy Black History Month. Carl Nelson, how you feeling. 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm still learning, Kevin good. I like your energy this 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: Monday morning. Yes, especially with the weather out there. 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: Sure, bro, I'm telling you, and you know you said 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: the one hundredth anniversary of Black History Month. I remember 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: when it was Negro History weak aging myselfself. 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 1: Now, oh yeah, that was some time, and I think 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: that was about fifty years well, yeah, it was one 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: hundred years ago before Lenny they changed it to Black 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: History Month. 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 2: Years wait, it been hold on, no, no, when neither 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: of us is one hundred years old, Carl. So if 24 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: we remember Negro history, they're both included, that's what you're saying. 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: Right right, Okay, Because they flipped it to Black History Month. 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: Well when will it ever grow to a couple of 27 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: months maybe a quarter? You know, Black History Quarter of. 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: The year should be every day from for us for US. 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 3: Three sixty five twenty four seven. That's that's where it 30 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 3: should be. 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,919 Speaker 2: But before we talk about my my entry for Negro 32 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: History Black History Month, see there I go stuck in it. Now, 33 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: let's talk about the things that are going on. It's 34 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 2: Groundhog Day today. You know, the groundhog gets a day. 35 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: So the groundhog that they use as an example, his 36 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: name is Puck Satani Phil, and he usually forecasts the 37 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: length of the winter, and it began a long cold 38 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 2: winter so far throughout this year. Whether the weather predicting 39 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: groundhog says there's more is yet to come, we're a 40 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: little earlier than the groundhog gets up. 41 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: See it'll still dark, are the right? 42 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: Those of us who have to work don't have that 43 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: those kind of groundhog hours. And so when Phil is 44 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: said to have seen his shadow a pun emergence from 45 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: a tree stump now in rural Pennsylvania, that's considered a 46 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: forecast for six more weeks of winter. If he doesn't 47 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: see his shadow, an early spring is said to be 48 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: on the way. So tens of thousands of people will 49 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: be on hand at Gobbler's Knob for the annual ritual 50 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: that goes back more than a century, which ties to 51 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: ancient farming traditions in Europe. Pucksatani's festivities have grown considerably 52 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: since that movie with Bill Murray called Groundhog Day, So 53 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: you know, just something, you know, some kind of comedic. 54 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that it's not even sponsored and live on 55 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: TV and the commercials and you know, the whole nine. 56 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, you can buy a little stuffed groundhog and. 57 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: That predicts the weather for you. Yeah. So they asked him, 58 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: do they ask him, Hey, Phil, can do you see 59 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: your shadow? 60 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: Well? 61 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, according to this article, his the handlers in the 62 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: Poxatani Groundhog Club insists that he speaks groundhog ease with winks, purs, chatters, 63 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: and nods, and they interpret that as some sort of 64 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: meteorological thing. 65 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, I'm just kidding, body know that, And. 66 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: He isn't the only animal being consulted for long term 67 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: weather forecasts either. There are a couple of other groundhogs. 68 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: I guess they're finding somewhere, you see. So it's either 69 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: the winter or the spring equinox that's going to happen 70 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: real early. 71 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: For your thoughts, I hope it's the latter. It's the cold, 72 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: that's my thoughts. Hey, look. 73 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: On a serious note, Mike Johnson says the House can 74 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: end government shut down by Tuesday now and then, from 75 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 2: a comedic standpoint that reminds me of Whimpy and Popeye, 76 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: I'll gladly pay you tuesday for hamburger. Today, he's saying 77 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: that he's confident Congress can end the partial government shut 78 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: down by Tuesday, despite steep opposition from the Democrats and 79 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: turmoil within the GOP conference. Johnson is under pressure to 80 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: unite his conquers with lawmakers, raising concerns about funding for 81 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: the Department of Homeland Security as the Trump administration faces 82 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: scrutiny over its nationwide immigration crackdown, it has at times 83 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: turned violent. 84 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, well interesting, They've already got enough funds for online 85 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: security for the I stations to continue. That's one and two. 86 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: I think the things that the Democrats are asking for 87 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: that they on the mask themselves and were cameras, so 88 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: we'll see what's going on to the world. We'll see 89 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: what's going on. We'll see if they capitulate, if the 90 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: Republicans agree to those things, because two of the things 91 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: that I know the Democrats are demanding. 92 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: Well, the Republicans are hoping to take up the one 93 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: point two trillion dollar funding package passed by the Senate 94 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: Tuesday following in a House Rules Committee meeting, and the 95 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: GOP leadership in the House originally hope to pass the 96 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: bill under suspension of the rules and expedited process that 97 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: requires two thirds majority vote, but the minority leader, Hakeem 98 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: Jeffries told Johnson Saturday the Democrats would not help Republicans 99 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 2: acquire the necessary support for the spending bill, and Johnson says, 100 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: I'm confident we'll do it at least by Tuesday on 101 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,679 Speaker 2: each sid that on meet the Prince. 102 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: All right, we'll wait and see. 103 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: We'll wait and see. Yeah, that's right. With baited breath, 104 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: that's what we're gonna do. We're just gonna wait. 105 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, in other news and Grammy News, Bad Bunny and 106 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar take the top Awards on a night mark 107 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: by explicit political statements. Bad Bunny became the first Spanish 108 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 2: language artist to win the ceremony's top prize, vive la 109 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: you know. 110 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: And then while Kendrick. 111 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: Lamar is now considered the winning is rapper in Grammy history. 112 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: Everybody loves Kendrick Lamar after that Super Bowl performance, Man, 113 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: I tell you he's definitely cutting edge artist with the 114 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 2: way he does things. 115 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: And he thought, you know, it was interested in Trevor No, 116 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: it took a shot. What's the name of the rapper 117 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: who turned myga oh minag Nicki Minaje. I can remember 118 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: her name either, that's as far she's gone in my consciousness. 119 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: But anyway, she she she was, she wasn't there, so 120 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: he took a slap at her, and then she but 121 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: she was watching because she knew. She's thought to be 122 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: a slew of people attacking her, but he was the 123 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: only one who attacked her. Say she's probably still at 124 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: the White House with Donald Trump. And that got a 125 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: lot of laughs. I understand. I didn't see the crack, 126 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: but she responded online, you know, called him out, you know, 127 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. But that was interesting that I 128 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: thought it would turn into something like that. But even 129 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: though bad bunny, he said Ice out. You know once 130 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: the first thing he said in English when he received 131 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: one of his awards. 132 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: You're saying that Don Lemon compared Ice. 133 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: No, no, no, bad bunny. When he was when he 134 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: received one of his awards, he shouted because you know 135 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: he's English is his second language, so it's reproficient in Spanish. 136 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: And he accepted one of the awards in Spanish. But 137 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: the first one he said I out was the first one. 138 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: Of the see because he was concerned about doing the 139 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: Super Bowl because Ice might come there to pull out 140 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: his fans and everything. So Ice out. I see what 141 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: you're saying, and he said it in Spanish. Well how 142 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: are you saying in Spanish? 143 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: Anyway? 144 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: Look In a stunning up sat the Democrat wins Texas 145 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: State Senate House Democrat Taylor Rimmett flipped a heavily Republican 146 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: Texas State Senate seat Saturday in a district Trump won 147 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty four by more than fourteen percentage points. 148 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: The victory extends democrats success and special elections since Trump 149 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: returned to office, signaling voter discontent with the GOP candidates 150 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: and policies, and so that's what's happening. And Republican Governor 151 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: Dan Patrick called it a wake up call for Republicans 152 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: across Texas and our voters cannot take anything for grant 153 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: as he's trying to warn the GOP. Remont was a 154 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: labor union leader and veteran easily defeated the Republican. Lea 155 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: Wambashkin a conservative activist in the Fort Worth area district. 156 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 2: So she says this wind goes to everyday working people. 157 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: Congratulations to her and to the Democrats. One a couple 158 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: other things before we get to your guests. Look, Don 159 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: Lemon's arrest balances freedom of religion versus freedom of the press, 160 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: Todd Blanche says on Politicos, you know, just giving you 161 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: a quick update on that. We don't know how that's 162 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: working out, but that is a concern, I believe, you know, 163 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: freedom of religion versus freedom of the press, and it's 164 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: more distraction or do we just have to keep our 165 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: eye on that. 166 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: I think we have to keep our eye on it, 167 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, because it may change as things go on. 168 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: They'll probably change as well. 169 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: All right, Well, Finally, it's a Black History Month and 170 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: the person I would like to feature today is the 171 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: black man who created the telegraph system for trains. His 172 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: name was Granville T. 173 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 3: Woods. 174 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: He was often referred to as the Black Edison, and 175 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: Woods was a prolific inventor who held more than sixty patents. 176 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: That's what you were talking about earlier, off Mike, he 177 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 2: was talking. He's credited with sixty patents. But when he 178 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: created the railway telegraph system, trains were bashing into each 179 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: other back and forth and killing lots and lots of people. 180 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 2: And he designed a telegraph system so that the stations 181 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: can reach the trains in case both trains are on 182 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 2: the track at the same time and. 183 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 3: Avoid those collisions. 184 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: Well, what happened that was in eighteen eighty one when 185 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 2: he invented the telegraph system. 186 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: And got the patent for it. 187 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Thomas Edison wanted to sue him for that, and 188 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: so Grandville was able to prove that he had the 189 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: patent in eighteen eighty one. Edison's lawsuit came up in 190 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: eighteen eighty four. So to continue the story, Edison lost 191 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: and Grandville continued with his telegraph and the other patents 192 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: he was designing, and then Edison sued him again for 193 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: the same thing, claiming he had the patent. 194 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: And lost a second time. 195 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: Right, So then Edison, after the third loss, decided to 196 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: try and hire Grandville T. 197 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: Woods. But Grandville T. 198 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: Woods wanted to maintain his independence, and he was vindicated 199 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 2: because he won those lawsuits against Thomas Edison and went 200 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 2: on to invent many other things, and the list is 201 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: too long to mention right now, automatic air brakes amongst them. Meanwhile, 202 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: Edison died with all the money and Grandville TE. Woodson 203 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: died unknown and penniless, as generally has been the case 204 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 2: for black inventors. So that's your moment in black history. 205 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: And that's the way it is. For the second of 206 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: February here at w OL and the Carl Nelson Show University. 207 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: Thanks for your jime, car. 208 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: All right, thanks Caving thirteen after the top of the 209 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: our family. I guess a trio of great illustrators in office. 210 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: First up is to make a friar brown grand Rising, Tamika. 211 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to the program so much, Carl. 212 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 5: I'm glad to be here. 213 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: And Tamika, tell us how you got into be because 214 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: you're award winning writer. How did you get involved in 215 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: the writing? How did you figure out this was your 216 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: slice of the pie. 217 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 5: Well, it happened when I was a medical supply sales 218 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 5: rep and I used to travel half of the country 219 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 5: and I I had a little baby. I had had 220 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 5: an eight month old baby, and my supervisor picked that 221 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 5: time to tell me he wanted me to be on 222 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 5: the road four nights a week. So I determined that 223 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 5: that was not going to work for me. So I 224 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 5: came home. I was a full time mom, and by 225 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 5: the time my third baby was two years old, I 226 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 5: was looking to do something that was besides being a 227 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 5: full time mom. And I happened to be reading a 228 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 5: picture book to her one day and I said, this 229 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 5: is it. This is something that can marry all of 230 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 5: my love children, literacy, my desire to leave a legacy 231 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 5: for my family, and you know, just for the world 232 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 5: once I'm no longer here. So I said, yeah, picture books, 233 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 5: that's it. So that was my situation. 234 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: And you're part of the Brown Bookshelf. Can you tell 235 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: us what that is? 236 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 6: Sure? 237 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 5: Well, the Brown Bookshelf we are a group of award 238 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 5: winning authors and illustrators who come together. We've been together 239 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 5: for about two decades now, and our goal is to 240 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 5: push awareness for all the black voices that are creating 241 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 5: stories for young readers. And our flagship initiative is called 242 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 5: twenty eight Days Later and it's a Black History my 243 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 5: showcase that celebrates all the again, all the outstanding books 244 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 5: that black creators are creating. And our goal is to 245 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 5: help parents, teachers, and librarians and booksellers recommend good Reads. 246 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 5: And the cool thing is last year we launched something 247 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 5: called the Brown Bookshelf Tour, and with the help of 248 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 5: nonprofit organizations, we reached more than one thousand children who 249 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 5: not only got to be a part of an author visit, 250 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 5: some for the very first time, but they also each 251 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 5: received a free signed book. So that was something really 252 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 5: cool that we started last year and we hoped to 253 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 5: continue to do that for many years to come. 254 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: And you've read so many interesting books. Tell us about 255 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: first just one about Shirley Chisham. Not done yet? How 256 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: did that come about? 257 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, so we get our ideas lots of ways, 258 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 5: and so for this particular book, there was an editor 259 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 5: who put out the call I think it was on 260 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 5: Twitter at the time, and that that said she wanted 261 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 5: a book about Shirley Chisholm, and one of my friends 262 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 5: tagged me in it. And at the time, you know, 263 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 5: I'm known for writing a lot of joy full contemporary books, 264 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 5: and so I was flattered that I got tagged in it. 265 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 5: But I was like, nah, that's not my lane nonfiction. 266 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 5: But that idea just wouldn't leave my head, and so 267 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 5: it took me a couple of years to kind of 268 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 5: figure out how I wanted to enter the story. And 269 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 5: by that time there were a couple of other Shirley 270 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 5: Chism books along the way. But but yeah, I figured 271 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 5: out how to write it. I you know, I sold 272 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 5: the book and it came out, and my angle, what 273 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 5: I wanted to focus on about Shirley's story was her 274 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 5: her fighting spirit and how she'd always had it throughout 275 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 5: her life, even as a child, and how that part 276 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 5: of her her personality, her her nature, she was able 277 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 5: to use that to create positive change. And that's something 278 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 5: that I wanted to communicate to kids, that there are 279 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 5: things about each and every one of us that we 280 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 5: have inside of us that we can use to make 281 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 5: a difference in the world. And that's a particularly timely 282 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 5: book right now because We are not done yet. There's 283 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 5: a lot of change still. You know that we need 284 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 5: to fight for So yeah, not done yet, Shirley Chistm's 285 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 5: fight for change, all right? 286 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: Hold up thor right there to make We've got to 287 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: step aside for a few moments. We come back to 288 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: We're going to be two more other members of a 289 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: Brown Bookshelf Club as well. Family YouTube can join us 290 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: at any point in our conversations with these award winning 291 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: writers and illustrators. You can reach us at eight hundred 292 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: four to five zero seventy eighth seventy six and we'll 293 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: take a phone calls next and Grand Rising Family, thanks 294 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: for waking up with us on this Monday morning. We 295 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: have a guest. First set of guests. They're all members 296 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: of the Brown Bookshelf, the award winning writers and illustrators. 297 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: They're all going to be at the annual Chills Black 298 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: Book Fair that's going to take place in Philadelphia, coming 299 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: to play this month of the Pennsylvania Convention. Sin I 300 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: will tell you more about that. You met Tamika Friar 301 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: Brown first, and now we've got uh, we've got and 302 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: she's been here before. Pardon me if I mess up 303 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: your name again old of the Missola, Ruda, Hey Perkovich, 304 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: and Kelly perfectly. Oh I got it. 305 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 7: Oh, thank you, good morning, morning. 306 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: Good morning Kelly. Kelly there with us as well. Yes, 307 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: good morning, hey, good all right, let's start with you first, 308 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: sister a little bit Massola. I hope I got it 309 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: right again. How did you you know? For the folks 310 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: who were hearing you for the first time, you've been 311 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: here before, please tell us how you got into writing, 312 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: how you got into the business writing and illustrating? 313 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 4: What? 314 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: What made you want to do children's books? 315 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 8: Oh? Thank you, thank you again for having me back. 316 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 8: I really enjoy being here. It's a pleasure and an honor. 317 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 8: I was a kid who was a reader. I was 318 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 8: a kid who heard stories, who saw books around the home. 319 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 8: I was in a home where reading and writing were precious, 320 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 8: were valued, where I learned that I had ancestors who 321 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 8: were not allowed to read and write, who were who 322 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 8: gave up a lot to read and write. And that's 323 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 8: something I always held on too. And I knew from 324 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 8: my own childhood that I wanted to write for kids. 325 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: What made you want to write? Though? What was it 326 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: about did your parents instill in you? Do you see 327 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: a lot of books in your homes, did you see 328 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: your parents are okay? 329 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, because we had a lot. 330 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 8: Of books in the home. We made multiple trips to 331 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 8: the library every week. 332 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 9: I was allowed to take out as many books. 333 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 8: As I wanted. And I would say my sister and 334 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 8: I were not allowed to watch very much TV. We 335 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 8: got one hour a week of PBS. 336 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: Wow, does does that bother you? Because you know, as 337 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: a childob you know, with the finger, you watch TV 338 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: and they go to school the next morning talking about 339 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: what's going we grow up. It was Bonanza, you know 340 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: that everybody got the next day you're talking about Bonanza, 341 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: but you couldn't talk about what was going on in 342 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: TV on the TV screens. Did that affect you at all? 343 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 3: Oh? 344 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 8: My goodness, that was exactly how it was. I would 345 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 8: go to school, everybody be talking about the shows that 346 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 8: they watched, and I would just be quiet. You know, 347 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 8: I went to a lot of different schools because we 348 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 8: moved a lot, so I was always the new kid, 349 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 8: so I was quiet anyway. So it would just be 350 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 8: quiet and listen and pretend like I knew what was 351 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 8: going on, Like. 352 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 10: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that was good. 353 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, ooh and then I would go home and I 354 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 8: would take what I had heard them say and write 355 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 8: these little stories and kind of make up little stories 356 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 8: and little books for my sister. 357 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: Oh wow, so you turn that into a positive great. 358 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 8: Yeah. 359 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: Twenty three minutes after top there family just waking up. 360 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: We have a trio of award winning writers and illustrators 361 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: are going to be part of the annual Children's Black 362 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: Book Fair that's going to take place in Philadelphia later 363 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: this is this month. They're part of a group they 364 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: called the Brown Bookshelf and also with us. Before I 365 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: go to Kelly, I got to ask you about one 366 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: of your books and I saw Makada makes makes Kata. 367 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, yes, So I'm excited that Makaida and all 368 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 8: of my books are going. 369 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 5: To be at the fair this year. 370 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 8: You know the book Fair. The books Fair, i have 371 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 8: to say, is the big stop on the Brown Bookshelf Tour. 372 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 8: Six of us are going to be there together, so 373 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 8: that really makes it special. So we're excited that the 374 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 8: fairs as a big part of the Brown Bookshelf Tour. 375 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 8: And Makata is a series of early readers about a 376 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 8: second grader who's curious, who's confident, who's always looking to 377 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 8: help out her family and friends, and sometimes she doesn't 378 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 8: quite get it right. 379 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to Kelly. Kelly grand Rising, 380 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: welcome to the program. 381 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 11: Thank you, good morning. It's the honor to be back, Kelly. 382 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: And tell us again for the folks you're hearing for 383 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: the first time. How did you get involved and being 384 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: a writer illustrated? How did you get involved in the field. 385 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: What was it good for you? 386 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 11: Yeah, So, I grew up in Pittsburgh, the home of 387 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 11: John Edgar Wideman and August Wilson, and my mom was 388 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 11: really involved in theater. She's part of Country Repertory Theater. 389 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 11: Would take me to children's theater, take me to the library, 390 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 11: my brother and I and I just became surrounded by 391 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 11: the magic of storytelling. Like Oli Benisola and like Tamika, 392 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 11: I grew up at a home full of books, and 393 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 11: it was really value to create stories. So my MoMA 394 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 11: would read us stories, but she would also make up 395 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 11: bedtime stories starring my brother Kevin and me, and so 396 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 11: that really sparked my imagination. 397 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 9: As I got older and went to school, I didn't 398 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 9: see myself in. 399 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 11: Books that were shared in the classroom until one day 400 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 11: at a book club, I saw rolla thunder, hear my cry. 401 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 11: And seeing that book and seeing that girl on the 402 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 11: cover who looked like me let me know that my 403 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 11: story mattered and our history should be shared and passed on. 404 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 9: And that lit a fire in me that. 405 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 11: Led to my becoming a children's book author by way 406 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 11: of being a journalist. So first I worked for newspapers 407 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 11: and then Ebony Magazine, where I was a bookshelf editor 408 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 11: for a time. And when I was there and started 409 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 11: to see some children's book centering black kids, I wanted 410 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 11: to add to that and became part of my calling. 411 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: Wow, good for you, great story. You wrote a book 412 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 1: book called Sing a Song? Can you share that with us? 413 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: What's that all about? 414 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 12: Yes? 415 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 11: So sing a Song? How lift Every Voice and Sing? 416 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 11: Inspired generations? That book was inspired by going to the 417 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 11: rich Theater Museum in Jacksonville, where James Waldon Johnson and 418 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 11: his brother John Rosamond were born and raised and where 419 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 11: they created Lift Theiryvoice and Sing. And my book tells 420 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 11: the story of the song through five generations of kids 421 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 11: who learn the song and pass it down. So it 422 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 11: starts with the first time it was performed in nineteen 423 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 11: hundred in Jacksonville and goes all the way to the 424 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 11: opening of the National Museum of African American History and 425 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 11: Culture in DC, where people singing it all over the nation. 426 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: All right, family just joined us at twenty seven. After 427 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: the top there, we have a trio of award winning 428 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: writers and illustrators. They're all going to be at the 429 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: Annual Children's Black Book Fair in Philly later this month. 430 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: It's going to be at the Pennsylvania Convention Center. This 431 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: is like when we watched the Grammys last night and 432 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: the Oscars coming up. This is what this is for 433 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: Black Children's Book Fair. This is what this is the 434 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: best of the best, the cream of the crop. You're 435 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: going to see reet and greet award winning writers and 436 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: illustrators that look like us have turned out great, great 437 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: books at Adventure. We've got Tamika, Missolia Kelly with us 438 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: this morning, and they're all award winning. As I mentioned 439 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: to me, kam, you wrote a book about the flag. 440 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: Which flag are you talking about? Red white and blue 441 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: or red, green and black? 442 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 5: Actually, I'm talking about the Confederate flag. 443 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 9: And it is. 444 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 5: The story of a pair of best friends, one black, 445 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 5: one white, who end up divided over their understanding of 446 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 5: the meaning and the significance of the Confederate flag. 447 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 1: Oh wow, how did you how do you manage them? 448 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: Tell us how how did you get the conveyor differences 449 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: to our children? 450 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I used the friendship story structure to make 451 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 5: it very relatable to kids. And and there's you know, 452 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 5: it's been called a story that teaches truth in a 453 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 5: very gentle and but direct and kid friendly and accessible way. 454 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 5: And you know, yeah, I used the friendship story structure 455 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 5: because kids not only can understand and relate to having 456 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 5: disagreements with their friends, but also they're interested in knowing 457 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 5: how to manage those difficulties. And they are also interested 458 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 5: in knowing the truth about things that we as adults 459 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 5: or you know, teachers. Society is particularly right now, Society 460 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 5: is trying to kind of hide and roll back and 461 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 5: transform what what you know, the truth about history is 462 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 5: into something else. And so yeah, I just wanted to 463 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 5: make sure I've made it very relatable to them using 464 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 5: you know, the friendship dynamic and how you know, truth 465 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 5: is important as it relates to building and maintaining relationships. 466 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 5: And so I don't want to give too much about 467 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 5: the story way, because it's the kind of story that 468 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 5: you got to kind of you got to experience it 469 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 5: firsthand for the first time, and it tends to generate 470 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 5: so much conversation and kids. I think they really appreciate 471 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 5: the respectful way in which I address a serious topic 472 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 5: with them, and I think they appreciate being respected. I 473 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 5: always have really great conversations about this book when I 474 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 5: present it to classrooms and groups of kids. 475 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a serious topic. And you know, when 476 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: when you explaining to me, how did you you know, 477 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: how did you do without taking side? Is was that 478 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: difficult to say one's better than the other? 479 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 4: Or did you well? 480 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 5: I definitely communicate a perspective, and I do that by 481 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 5: giving historical context for the flag. I do present both 482 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 5: sides of the story, and I've been told that it 483 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 5: does so in a way that does not vilify the 484 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 5: other side, but it also uses truth and facts to 485 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 5: lay out the case for why, you know, the Confederate flag, 486 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 5: how it was born out of a white supremacist belief, 487 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 5: and how it's still being used in that way today. 488 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 5: And again, like we just lay it out kind of objectively. 489 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 5: And you know, again, I've been told that you know 490 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 5: gently but directly, so that readers can be open to 491 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 5: receiving the information, and not only the kid reader who's 492 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 5: sometimes learning about some of this for the first time, 493 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 5: but the adult readers as well. 494 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: So, yeah, twenty nine away from the top of our family. 495 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: You just getting up here on this Monday morning at 496 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: twenty nine minutes away from the top. As I mentioned, 497 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: we have a trio of writers illustrators, the award winning 498 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: and they're going to be at the annual Children's Black 499 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: Book Fair in Philly late this month. They'll tell you 500 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: all about it a moment before they leave, of course, 501 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: and they're all part of a group called the Brown Bookshelf. 502 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: They're part of that group, and I guess they're all friends. 503 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: They're part of a team called the Brown Bookshelf. I've 504 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: got Tamik, I've got Olive Masolia and also Kelly Oli Mansolia. 505 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: Let me let me go to you and talk to 506 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: you about one of your books. You did a book 507 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: about The Sun Does Shine. 508 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 8: Yes, Yes, The Sundust Shine is actually the young reader's 509 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 8: adaptation of Anthony ray Hinton's adult book also called The 510 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 8: Sun Does Shine, and listeners may know that Anthony ray 511 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 8: Henton spent almost thirty years in prison for a crime 512 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 8: that he did not commit. And so when I was 513 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 8: asked to adapt his adult memoir for young readers, it 514 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 8: was really an honor and it was really a process 515 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 8: where I had to think about, how can I share 516 00:28:54,600 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 8: this heartbreaking, infuriating, often violent, his personal story with young 517 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 8: readers in a way that, as Tamika talked about, is 518 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 8: the truth that shares the facts of the story, that 519 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 8: shares the truth of the story, that gives context, that 520 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 8: gives history, and I hope was a call to action 521 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 8: about so kids can think about our justice system and 522 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 8: whether or not it really delivers justice. 523 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: So how do you do that? Though? Is that difficult 524 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: to convey that to young minds? I mean, as adults 525 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: you can let it loose, but somehow, you know, you've 526 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: got to be I guess you got to have a 527 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: technique to so the children will understand what you're saying. 528 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: It was that difficult. 529 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 8: What I did was one I grounded it in mister 530 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 8: Hinton himself. He is just an incredible man, and so 531 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 8: speaking to him and the warmth that he exudes, the 532 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 8: generosity of spirit, and I know that he goes around 533 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 8: and speaks to children a lot and inspires them just 534 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 8: through the way he speaks. So I tried to sort 535 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 8: of infuse the book with that spirit. I used quotes 536 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 8: actually as chapter headings as a way to kind of 537 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 8: gently lead the reader into whatever the topic of the 538 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 8: chapter was. I did include in addition to his story, 539 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 8: I included some charts and some facts about our justice system, 540 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 8: about the history of the death penalty, for instance. And 541 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 8: I wrote a lot about the book club that he 542 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 8: started in prison that really sustained him and so many others, 543 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 8: and just about how our stories are so precious, Our 544 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 8: stories can sustain us, our stories can inspire us. I 545 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 8: wrote about his childhood and his relationship with his mother 546 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 8: and with his best friend. So I think that as 547 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 8: to me, it said, kids can really can understand and 548 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 8: hold on to engage with big ideas. I think if 549 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 8: we show them the respect that they deserve, they will 550 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 8: be willing to respect and and read our stories. 551 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and for you and for all of you, though, 552 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: the writing's books for children, especially on topics like that, 553 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: you have to have a certain skill because you know, 554 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: really writing, and because your personal ideas of what's you're 555 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,479 Speaker 1: going to put on the on the print, but it's 556 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: it's going to be for children and you and you 557 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: want it to be a way that they're not angry 558 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: after reading it. You know they're not upset, don't pull 559 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: out those emotions. So how do you how do you? Yeah, 560 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: how do you do that? Though? You know, to get 561 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: the child he puts on he's mad, he wants to 562 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: join a picket line or something. You know, he's going 563 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: slap some white kids in school the next day. So 564 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out how you guys do that. 565 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 13: You can, okay, we don't want to throw out. 566 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: But that takes a skill though. You know, that takes 567 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: a skill that you're given all the information that the 568 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: child needs to know, the black child needs to know. 569 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: But you're still he's you know, pulling that anger out 570 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: of it. You know, he's oh, man, he's oh they 571 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: did their Still, brother, I wait a minute, you know 572 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm coming. I was injustice now I want to pound 573 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: a flesh for what you did to my folks. I'm 574 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how you maneuver it still like that. 575 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 8: I mean, I think that's one of the most beautiful 576 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 8: things about literature, about books, is that that's where we 577 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 8: can wrestle with these questions and wrestle with our emotions. 578 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 8: That's what I did as a kid with books. 579 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 4: You know. 580 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 8: I mentioned I was a shy kid, and I moved 581 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 8: a lot, and there were just a lot of things 582 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 8: going on, and books for the place where I could 583 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 8: wrestle with questions. I think books, especially books about challenging topics, 584 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 8: are opportunities for adult for caregivers to engage with their 585 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 8: young people and let that be an opening and opening 586 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 8: up to start conversation, to have conversations that can be difficult. 587 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 8: I think part of why I get so excited about 588 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 8: the fair that this Saturday at the Pennsylvania Convention Center 589 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 8: from one to four everyone is that it is such 590 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 8: a beautiful thing to see thousands and thousands of our kids, 591 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 8: our families, of friend groups of educators, of people from 592 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 8: all walks of life come to engage with our stories. 593 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 8: And I think for all of us, we're so grateful. 594 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 8: And when we approach our work, we approach it with 595 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 8: that idea of serving the work, of serving our readers, 596 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 8: and of not trying to tell something or tell anyone 597 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 8: what to do, but to share a story and know 598 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 8: that they're going to have their relationship and make a 599 00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 8: news story and be inspired. 600 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: Oho hold that though right there, We've got to come back. 601 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: We've got Kelly and Tamiko. We're going to meet us. Well, 602 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: there's three great children's writers books, their award winning they're 603 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: the best of the best. They're going to be on 604 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: display in Philly next at the end of the week, 605 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: and we'll tell you more about that. But first we 606 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: had to check the news, traffic, and weather at different cities. 607 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: We will do that next and we'll meet some We 608 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: meet our panel at eight hundred and four or five 609 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy six. You can do the same. 610 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: Just diyle those numbers and grind rising. Family. Thanks for 611 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: waking up with us on this Monday morning at sixteen 612 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: minutes away from the top of the Thanks for starting 613 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: your week with us. By the way, we have a 614 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: trio of writers. These award winning writers are Shay. They're 615 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: going to be at this weekend's annual Children's Black Book 616 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: Fair in Philadelphia at the Pennsylvania Convention Center, and it's writing. 617 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: It's a children's book fair. Adults are also invited to 618 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: come because some of these should be some of these 619 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: writers and illustrators. These are the top of the line, 620 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: the top of the class, and they've they've got some 621 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: great works that even adults can read and enjoy as well. 622 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: Before we go back to Tamika al Mansola and Kelly, 623 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: let me just remind you come up later this morning, 624 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna speak with futuristic researching bro Sadeka Bacari. Also, 625 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: Sister Philey is going to join us from the Million 626 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: Women's Smash. She's going to highlight the hundreds of missing 627 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: Black women and girls and nobody talks about it, and 628 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: her group is bent on getting that story out. So 629 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: we're going to speak with her and late this week 630 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: you in here from Grell. Professor James Small Mark ro 631 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 1: Manaheim will join us. Also, Baltimore's Warrior lawyer Jay Wendall 632 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: Gordon will also checking. So if you are in Baltimore, 633 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: make sure you keep your radio lock team tight on 634 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: ten ten WLB or if you're in the DMV, we're 635 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 1: on fourteen fifty WOL. All right, we made Tamika Odo 636 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: Malissola and Kelly. So Kelly, let's go to you and 637 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: talk to you about one of your books. Your book 638 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: you wrote a book by Ty's Travels. What is that 639 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: book all about? 640 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 11: Yes, so Ty's travel is an easy reader series is 641 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 11: for kids just learning how to read. It celebrates imagination, 642 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 11: the strength of the Black family, and problem solving. 643 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 9: The book, the most recent one. 644 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 11: Is called Super Tie Ty. Imagine he is a superhero, 645 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 11: really a super helper, goes around his community and finds 646 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 11: ways to give back. And the central question though, is 647 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 11: what happens when the helper needs helping. So there's a 648 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 11: moment where he needs some help and then he'll have 649 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 11: to read to see what comes of that. But that's 650 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 11: a book that really connects with children who naturally want 651 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 11: to give and want to help one another, but don't 652 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 11: always know how to ask for help when they need it. 653 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: Oh wow, So how deep is this book? Kelly tell 654 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: us about the illustrated in this book. 655 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 11: Yeah, so the illustrations are really magical. It's illustrator named 656 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 11: Nnia Mata. This is our eighth Ties Travels book together. 657 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 11: So the adventurers go from everything from Tie imagining a 658 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 11: box as a train, a scooter being a race cars, 659 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 11: backyard as a beach, and Ninia brings those to life 660 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 11: with color and joy and creativity so that you can 661 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 11: really feel like time you're in the real world for 662 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 11: a minute, and then the text and the illustration shifts 663 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 11: where you can feel like you're in his imagination through 664 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 11: Ninia's use of doing kind of crayon style drawings when 665 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 11: you're in the fantasy world and then more of a 666 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 11: realistic style when you're back in the real world. And 667 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 11: it's been such an honor to have the chance to 668 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 11: share that at the book Fair, as all of Emmy's 669 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 11: tell us, that's one of our favorite events. It just 670 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 11: fills your heart with so much joy to see kids, families, 671 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 11: educators come from all over in line sometimes that stretch 672 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 11: all the way around the corner for the chance to 673 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 11: get buy books, build their collections, get them signed, and 674 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 11: to meet authors and the illustrators. 675 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 13: And we hope that. 676 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 11: Kids when they meet us, know that they can be 677 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 11: creators too. Their story matters, and we want to inspire 678 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 11: them to put their heart on the page and to 679 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 11: share it with those who they love. 680 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: That's a good point. You can go to the fair, 681 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: You're going to meet some of the outstanding writers and 682 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: illustrators look like us, and they need to be celebrated family, 683 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: because these is the cream of the crop that we're 684 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: talking about. It's going to be there this weekend the 685 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Convention Center, Pennsylvania Convention Center in Philadelphia. I should 686 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: mention it. All right, let's just talk to some more 687 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: with us, just us, and let's let's go back now 688 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: to Tamika. Tamika, you wrote a book by prayer. How 689 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm interested in? 690 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 13: How? 691 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: How did you write this book about prayer? How religious? 692 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: Did it get? 693 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 13: Well? 694 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 5: Interesting? Well, I wrote it. I was asked to actually 695 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 5: write this book, and I was asked to write it 696 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 5: from the perspective of a Christian, which I am. But 697 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 5: it's not I don't. I wouldn't say that it is 698 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 5: super scriptural. I mean it's accessible for children, and the 699 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 5: goal is that I just wanted kids to know that 700 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 5: prayer is accessible to every freebody and it's about more 701 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 5: than just asking God for stuff. 702 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 13: Right. 703 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 5: Prayer encourages a spirit of gratitude and mindfulness. It's meditation. 704 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 5: It's a form of meditation, so it really helps one 705 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 5: regulate your emotions and reduce physical stress. It also encourages 706 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 5: the spirit of community, right, because when you're praying for 707 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 5: somebody else, you're taking your mind outside of you know, 708 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 5: just being focused on you and you can focus on 709 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 5: other people, which is the foundation of building community and 710 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 5: relationship building. It also mentions prayer as being offering hope 711 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 5: and comfort during challenging times, which also makes it a 712 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 5: very timely book right now. And again, it just teaches 713 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 5: kids that, you know, God's just not an atm. We 714 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 5: just don't go to him and ask for stuff. Prayer 715 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 5: is an opportunity to build a relationship with the divine 716 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 5: and and also to bring uh I guess, a closer 717 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 5: relationship amongst groups like families and friends, et shatterrah. So, yeah, 718 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 5: it's very kid accessible. It's not like we're not really 719 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 5: talking like scripture. It's just about how prayer can just 720 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 5: help you in all these different ways that I shared. Yeah, 721 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 5: so I I it was another project that was brought 722 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 5: to me by my editor, but I was very excited 723 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,760 Speaker 5: to do it. It's the very first time that I've 724 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 5: done a like a spiritual based book in total. If 725 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 5: you read some of my stories, you know a lot 726 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 5: of my contemporary, happy, joyful stories like all the Greatness 727 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 5: in You, you know, kids will be saying grace, families 728 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 5: will be saying grace at the table. That's pretty much 729 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 5: as you know, as much as I've ever put in 730 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 5: a book before. So it was really a really cool 731 00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 5: opportunity to talk to kids about all the things in 732 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 5: all the ways that prayer can be helpful onto us 733 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 5: on a day to day basis. And that's going to 734 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 5: be my featured title at the fair this weekend this Saturday. 735 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 5: But some of course there'll be some others is there 736 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:14,479 Speaker 5: as well. 737 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: You know, that sounds like a great book. I'll be 738 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: honest with you. All the churches in the Sunday schools 739 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: folks should have a copy of this book when you 740 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: teach them about prayer though, because you know, youngsters, as 741 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: you mentioned atm but some of them feel like it's 742 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 1: a microwave that you know, God, I neat this and 743 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: go to sleep and I wake up it didn't happen. 744 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: Do you do commonsate for that? So they're not so 745 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: if they read it and they build and obviously these 746 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: young minds are going to believe everything in there and 747 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: they make that prayer, they're looking for instant gratification and 748 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: instant results. Do you deal with that issue as well? 749 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 5: I absolutely do. In fact, you know, there's a section 750 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 5: of the book and I say, prayers easy, you could 751 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 5: pray anywhere. And then we talk about that and the 752 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 5: very next thing I said, prayer is all so hard, 753 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 5: especially when we're mad or things don't turn out how 754 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 5: we hope they would. Sometimes it's hard to even think 755 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 5: of things to pray about. Still we try. Sometimes trying 756 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 5: is the best we can do. So yeah, we touch 757 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,439 Speaker 5: on that as well. 758 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: Oh great, our family. Just checking in a night away 759 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 1: from the top of it with Tamika Odol Massola and Kelly. 760 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: They're all award winning writers, illustrators. Both they do the 761 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,280 Speaker 1: same and they're going to be this weekend's annual Children's 762 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: Black Book Fair in Philadelphia. You get a chance to 763 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: meet them if you could show up there. We'll give 764 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: you all the information before we leave. But let me 765 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: go to Let me go another book here, let me 766 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: see who's the this one. Oh, I'm a go, Soola, 767 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm not messing up your name again. But you did 768 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: a book about some day is now? Explain that to 769 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: the family. 770 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 8: Some days Now? Yeah, Some Days Now is a picture 771 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 8: book that tells part of the story of Clara Looper, 772 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 8: a teacher in Oklahoma, and her students and their path 773 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 8: to the nineteen fifty eight sit ins that she led 774 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 8: at Cat's Restaurant in drugstore in Oklahoma City to desegregate them. 775 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 8: Some of the kids were as young as six years old, 776 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 8: and she really used her skills as an educator to 777 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 8: help the children feel empowered, to help the children understand 778 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 8: the process of nonviolent resistance, to understand how it's not 779 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 8: just about like waking up when dy and deciding I'm mad, 780 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 8: I'm going to go protest. But it's about study, it's 781 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 8: about conversation within the community, it's about conviction, and it's 782 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 8: about persistence. 783 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: Oh wow, all of these books are great books. I 784 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: gotta tell you just you know, as an adult, I 785 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: probably would try to read all of them as well. 786 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 1: So let me go to Kelly Dos. Kelly has done 787 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: a book about one Million Men, and me, Kelly, tell 788 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: us about the genesis of this book. What is this 789 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 1: book all about? 790 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 11: Absolutely so, I was actually a million man march. I 791 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 11: was a journalist at the time, and I was writing 792 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 11: and I was there to cover it. 793 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,800 Speaker 9: And when I was there and. 794 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 11: I saw all the beautiful men from all over the 795 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 11: nation coming together, it was like a quilt that was 796 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 11: spread across the Washington Mall and as I looked around, 797 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,959 Speaker 11: I saw some little girls there too, whose fathers had 798 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 11: brought them to the march to witness this. And so 799 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 11: in one million men and me, I have the little 800 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 11: girl Nia, and she is the storyteller of all these men, 801 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 11: like her father, who have come together in strength and 802 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 11: unity and in power to show that they matter. 803 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 9: And her vision in. 804 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 11: The book really shows how people can come from different 805 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:52,720 Speaker 11: places and it only takes one one movement, one moment, 806 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 11: to make such a powerful difference, not just on adults, 807 00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 11: but also on the children who were watching. So that's 808 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 11: what that book is all about. And that came out 809 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 11: more than twenty years ago now, so it's been such 810 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 11: an honor to have a chance to share that. 811 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: Well, let me say, this has been an honor for 812 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: you to do that book for our children, because you know, 813 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: if they need to know what happened to the million 814 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,399 Speaker 1: man March and from there, you know, point of view 815 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: from their from their level. This is what you did 816 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: tell me about the illustrations though, because this how have 817 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: the illustrated capture the mood? Because you know the mood 818 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: was different, you know you you were there, the mood 819 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: was all it seems like everybody was just you know, 820 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: with family here. You know, we're somehow the family. So 821 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: how did the how did you capture that in the 822 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: book and have the illustrator capture that as well? 823 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 11: And you know, being there, I say it was almost 824 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 11: like if you could make peace tangible, you know, like 825 00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 11: you just felt it everywhere. Everybody was so sent heard 826 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 11: and kind and purposeful, and he just felt protected and loved. 827 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 11: And my my, being there, I had a first view 828 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 11: the illustrator. He pulled from historical records, He looked at 829 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 11: different photographs, he shared different moments with you know, people 830 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 11: who had gone. And I love the art that he 831 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 11: was able to show that really illustrates the community, feeling 832 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 11: the love, the strength, and the power of everyone who 833 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 11: has gathered there. 834 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 9: And as I look at the book, I'm taken back. 835 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 11: To, you know, being there on the Washington Mall and 836 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:45,240 Speaker 11: seeing you know, all these young from from boys and girls, 837 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 11: who all the men who were there, and all of 838 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 11: the you know. 839 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 9: Wonderful leaders and speakers who. 840 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:56,399 Speaker 11: Were giving us this message and this really task of 841 00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 11: making sure that we continue to bless one another and 842 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,399 Speaker 11: move forward as one. 843 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: Did you go into individual speakers and how do you 844 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: capture the spirit of the millim Man March. 845 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 11: Yees. So it's related with a little girl's voice, and 846 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 11: she's talking about, you know, from the bus ride there 847 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 11: with her daddy and then walking around and just you know, 848 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 11: hearing all these messages from you know, Maya Angelo to 849 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,760 Speaker 11: doctor ort to doctor Dorothy Hight to Honova, Minister Lewis Ferricon, 850 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 11: and know, hearing all these messages that made them hold 851 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:33,280 Speaker 11: their heads high. 852 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 13: Bill On. 853 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 11: She was a princess there surrounded by kings, and then 854 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 11: the ride back home. So I tried to touch on 855 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,760 Speaker 11: the spirit of it, the emotion that it engendered in. 856 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 9: Her and everybody that was there with her, and. 857 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 11: Also bring the young reader into that moment because we 858 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 11: often talk about the March on Washington, and we talk 859 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 11: about other famous marches in history, and I wanted to 860 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 11: make sure that the million Man March is something that 861 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,839 Speaker 11: we remember and celebrate too. 862 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: Good for you, Kelly, thank you, thank you, thank you. 863 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: Well hold up, hold on, sisters. We've got to take 864 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 1: a short break here. We got to check the trafficking 865 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: weather in not different cities. When we come back, Jeen's 866 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: got a question for one of your books. Eight hundred 867 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six. You took 868 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: and speak to our award winning writers. Just reach out 869 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 1: to us. We will take your phone calls after we 870 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 1: check the traffic and weather in your cities. That's next, 871 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: Grand Rising family, thanks for starting your week with us. 872 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: We have a trio of award winning writers. They're all 873 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: from the Brown Bookshelf, by the way, and they're all 874 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 1: going to be at the annual Children's Black Book Fair 875 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: take place in the Philadelphia this weekend at the Pennsylvania 876 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: Convention Center. If you like to speak to Tamika, a 877 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: Little Massola or Kelly, reach out to us at eight 878 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 1: hundred four to five zero seventy eight seventy six. Genie's 879 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,280 Speaker 1: reaching out. He's calling from Pikefreield has a question, Grand Rising, 880 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: Gene your question for. 881 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 14: Whom, Yeah, Green Rising, for any of the ladies, but 882 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,959 Speaker 14: especially the lady I'm not sure of her name, who 883 00:48:55,040 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 14: was talking about prayer and atonement at the Millionaire munch Uh. 884 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 13: Faith. My question is centered around faith because I'm a 885 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 13: baby boomer, Vietnam War veteran, and i interacted with Christian 886 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,320 Speaker 13: with sorry yeah Christians, uh, specially Catholics in South Vietnam 887 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,360 Speaker 13: and Buddhists, and then the Philippines, Uh they were Muslims, 888 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,280 Speaker 13: et cetera, and they were Asians, and so I saw 889 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 13: that them reconcile and I observed, in my opinion, you know, 890 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 13: their their their faith as opposed not opposed to, but 891 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 13: just uh in in in connection with prayer. So my 892 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 13: question to you is how important is or is faith 893 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 13: a part of prayer or is it important in the 894 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 13: process of praying? 895 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 1: All right? Was that for Tamaka book? 896 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:52,720 Speaker 13: Yeah? 897 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 5: Well, okay, yes, well I think that when you're talking 898 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,439 Speaker 5: about different uh faith and really religions, most of them 899 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 5: have some form of prayer involved in it is because 900 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 5: you know, prayer is the way in which we communicate 901 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 5: with the divine and so that is going to be 902 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 5: and that's the thing. That's why it's a part of 903 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 5: every religion and every faith. But again I say, you know, 904 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, you know a lot of people, 905 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 5: you know, meditation am I from my perspective, is also 906 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,760 Speaker 5: a form of prayer. And you know, so some people 907 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 5: or I should say, prayer is a form of meditation. 908 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 5: And so some folks, I guess who you know, don't 909 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:50,760 Speaker 5: necessarily attach themselves to a particular faith, but they still 910 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 5: believe in the power of meditation, you know. I you know, 911 00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not a I'm not a scholar, I'm 912 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 5: not a bit I want to put that out there now, 913 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 5: but I feel that that is still a very important 914 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 5: part of being in alignment and in toumb not only 915 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 5: with one self, but with the universe and with things 916 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 5: that are outside there. So now I am a Christian, 917 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 5: So for me, prayer is a way to communicate to God, 918 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,839 Speaker 5: you know. But again that's the same thing for all 919 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 5: religious all faiths, is their way to communicate to the Divine. 920 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 5: So I think that is something that connects all of us, 921 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 5: no matter who you are. Like I said, one of 922 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 5: my things with prayer is that prayer is for everybody, 923 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 5: no matter who you are, what you do, or what 924 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 5: your thoughts are Believers and dollars. Prayer is something I 925 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,839 Speaker 5: believe that is beneficial for all the reasons that I've 926 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 5: stated before, not only to connect you to the divine, 927 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 5: but sometimes just for your own physical peace, et cetera. 928 00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 11: Mentioned and the are also mentioned a million man march, 929 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 11: And I was going to say that, you know, having 930 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,400 Speaker 11: people of all different backgrounds, different faiths all coming together. 931 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 11: When I talk about and when I think about faith, 932 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 11: I'm thinking about the meaning of being, the evidence of 933 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 11: things not seen. So, you know, having that belief and 934 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 11: something greater than all of us that is bringing us 935 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 11: in one body towards this big goal that we we have. 936 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 11: And when we think about the history of our people, 937 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 11: faith is something that has sustained us from the Middle 938 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 11: Passage to slavery, to civil rights to today. We all 939 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 11: draw on our faith in order to find fortitude and 940 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 11: to find hope to keep us pushing forward. 941 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: All right, I'll let you ladies go, but listen, give 942 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 1: us one of't you just tell us about the event 943 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 1: that's taking place this weekend in Philly. 944 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 9: Yes, if we could share that. 945 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 11: It will be on Saturday at the Pennsylvania Convention Center. 946 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 11: It's the African American Children's Book Fair. It is the 947 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 11: largest black book fair that celebrates children's books in the nation. 948 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 11: You'll be able to purchase books at the Literary Cafe. 949 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 11: You will have dozens of authors and illustrators ready to 950 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,720 Speaker 11: greet you and sign your book. There will be opportunities 951 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 11: to see us present. There will be community partners and 952 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 11: opportunities to connect with different organizations. And it's really something 953 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,280 Speaker 11: that fills your heart when you see so many people 954 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 11: that have come from all over, not just from Philadelphia, 955 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 11: but from the DMB, from other places, from New York, 956 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,959 Speaker 11: from Jersey, to get a chance to build their home 957 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 11: school and library collections, to get a chance to inspire 958 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 11: their kids by connecting with creators who look like them, 959 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 11: and to know that our stories matter, and that the 960 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 11: biggest way that we can show that they matter is 961 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 11: by showing up and by adding our books to our 962 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 11: children's lives. 963 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,240 Speaker 9: And we want to see Lloyds somebody were her vision. 964 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 8: I mean, this is the thirty fourth year of the 965 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,359 Speaker 8: fair and it's just such an amazing and beautiful thing 966 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 8: that VanNess Lloyd's Gun Body has done and so many 967 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 8: of our books being in one place and available at 968 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 8: the fair. They're also available at the Literary Cafe. I 969 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 8: am so thankful for, as Kelly said, the work that 970 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 8: Vanessa has done, and that opportunity that we have that 971 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 8: even though there are a lot of form us that's 972 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 8: trying to tell us otherwise, we can come to the 973 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,760 Speaker 8: fair and celebrate the fact that we have infinite stories 974 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 8: and they are each precious and powerful. 975 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: Well, let me say this past and I thank Venez 976 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 1: for doing this, but you know, tell us that she 977 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 1: needs to create another media platform. All your books that 978 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,319 Speaker 1: were when you guys are describing this book, I was 979 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: saying to myself, Wow, these will be great cartoons. You know, 980 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,800 Speaker 1: we need to have just a black cartoon channel with 981 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 1: using your books, all the books you've written with a 982 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,400 Speaker 1: mailion man marched the book about prayer, and just have 983 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: cartoons on them. And because we've got we've got the 984 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: folks who can do this. We've got some brilliant brothers 985 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 1: and sisters out there who can do this. So our 986 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 1: young people can you know, if they don't want to 987 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,399 Speaker 1: see something, they just turn it on the You've reached 988 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 1: them at their level, at the cartoon level, just like 989 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: these children's books are doing. I'd love to see that 990 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 1: Sotel for nest. That's our next project. 991 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 9: We well, thank you. 992 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,840 Speaker 1: All right, thank you ladies. 993 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,839 Speaker 9: And thank you, thank you for having us. 994 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,360 Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you so much. 995 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 1: All Right, These sisters, Tamika Massoula Kelly, they're all willing writers, 996 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 1: UH and they're going to be at the UH African 997 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 1: American Annual Children's book Fair in Philadelphia this weekend at 998 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 1: the Pennsylvania Convention Center. Let's stay in Philly and talk 999 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: to Sister phil At Sister Phil a grand rising and 1000 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:00,840 Speaker 1: welcome to the program. 1001 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 7: Hey, greetings, were the call. Greetings family, Always good to 1002 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 7: be with you. 1003 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Sister philas with the Men and Women March, and 1004 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,799 Speaker 1: it's Sister Philaise. Your concern is that there's hundreds is 1005 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 1: it hundreds or thousands of missing or probably kidnap black 1006 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 1: women and girls. 1007 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 4: It's thousands, Yeah, it's about wow. 1008 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:25,399 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it's thousands. And brother Claul, when you when 1009 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 7: we begin to really look at some of the stats, 1010 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 7: hopefully folks will begin to realize just how serious this is. 1011 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,880 Speaker 7: And we've been talking about it for over a decade. 1012 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,720 Speaker 7: Every every year we do something around Mother's Day, usually 1013 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 7: the day before Mother's Day, to bring attention to the 1014 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 7: issue of not just missing and kidnapp but but you know, 1015 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 7: we also have to look at what's known now as 1016 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 7: human and sex trafficking. But we also focus on all 1017 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 7: of the areas of violations of our women and girls. 1018 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 7: But at this particular time, because the numbers are so wild, 1019 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 7: we have to now focus on what we know statistically 1020 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 7: and obviously and that is missing, kidnapped, and a lot 1021 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 7: of that is now related. 1022 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 13: To sex and human trafficking. 1023 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 7: And note when I say sex and human trafficking, human 1024 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 7: trafficking is also relevant to organs because our research is 1025 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:33,600 Speaker 7: now taking us down that Road's. 1026 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 1: Sister, Phil, share with us why you think that this 1027 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 1: is not being discussed on a larger scale. I mean, 1028 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 1: this is you're talking about a whole bunch of black 1029 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 1: women and girls that turned up missing. Your group is 1030 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,439 Speaker 1: probably the only one that's that's highlighting this. Why isn't 1031 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 1: not this a major concern for the Congression of Black Caucus, 1032 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 1: for you know, our black churches, our Black fraternities and sororities. 1033 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 1: Why isn't this a major concern for them? Or is 1034 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: it because I'm not hearing the only person out here 1035 00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 1: talking about it is you and your group. 1036 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 7: Well, and I have to be fair and say there 1037 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 7: are other groups for the call, and we're very thankful 1038 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 7: for them. But unfortunately, like with many other things that's 1039 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:16,080 Speaker 7: not shall we say, easy to grab onto, most are 1040 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 7: doing it in their communities or its minimum. And unfortunately, 1041 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:26,440 Speaker 7: where there's a lot of good information, there's limited progression 1042 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 7: in terms of the action program or what we're going 1043 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 7: to do about it. So there's information available, and I 1044 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 7: have to again I give kudos to those groups and 1045 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 7: organizations and activists that are doing the work, because our 1046 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 7: people are gonna always do work. But in this day 1047 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 7: and age, if the work is not connected to other apparatuses, 1048 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 7: then it's not going anywhere. And so the one thing, 1049 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,439 Speaker 7: and you're right, the one thing that MWM has done 1050 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 7: over the years. I mean, I know some people think, 1051 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 7: oh many and women March, that was just an event. No, 1052 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 7: we could so you attract history of what we've been 1053 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 7: doing since ninety seven up to now. And by the way, 1054 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 7: next year is our thirty year anniversary and best belief 1055 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 7: is going to be incredible. But going back to your 1056 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 7: point again, what we've done with MWM and its universal 1057 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 7: movements is connect the black dots, and that means looking 1058 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 7: at the cities and the states that we have large numbers, 1059 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 7: examining the information the research in those various states, Like 1060 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 7: we've been to Chicago, we've been to DC, we've been 1061 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 7: to Baltimore, and of course I'm here in Philly. So 1062 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 7: we've been able to examine look closely at the stats, 1063 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:49,080 Speaker 7: the information, the reports, etc. And start compiling that. So 1064 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 7: now we're not just talking about an incident two, three 1065 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 7: or four whatever in one location. We're looking at it 1066 00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 7: from a national scope. And with that, what we're going 1067 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,760 Speaker 7: to do Now that's the different part. What's the plan 1068 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 7: of action? And then the other thing too that's important 1069 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 7: for us is not to be dependent on the government 1070 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,160 Speaker 7: to do what we need to do. 1071 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, all we've got fourteen and a half the top 1072 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 1: our Sister Philaise, I guess family you want to get 1073 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,360 Speaker 1: in on this discussion, reach out to us eight hundred 1074 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six sies with 1075 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 1: a million women in March, and what they're highlighting is 1076 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,200 Speaker 1: the thousands of missing Black women and girls that happen 1077 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 1: annually in this country. Sister Philaise, what's the youngest you 1078 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 1: say would be abducted? What was the youngest girl? 1079 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 7: Well, statistically it's usually around ten and up. However, we 1080 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,440 Speaker 7: are now getting reports of younger children. Now, the situations 1081 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,200 Speaker 7: will vary in terms of the reports as to why 1082 01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 7: and how they're kidnapped, but again we're looking now for 1083 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 7: and up and note it is primarily girls and women. 1084 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 7: It's not to say that our brothers are not being 1085 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 7: kidn at, but statistically speaking, looking at the reports we're 1086 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 7: looking at primarily our girls and women all over the country. 1087 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 7: And again, before we close our car, I want to 1088 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,240 Speaker 7: give you a few stats just to maybe wake folks 1089 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 7: up a little further about what's really going on. And 1090 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 7: note when we look at reports, be real clear that 1091 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 7: they're just giving us what they get, so that doesn't 1092 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,919 Speaker 7: mean that this is the actual number. And nine times 1093 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 7: out of ten it isn't because a lot of times 1094 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 7: people don't report certain kinds of things. I mean, if 1095 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 7: it is something that maybe they're not found, for example, 1096 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 7: sometimes they are found, or sometimes there's different circumstances or whatever. 1097 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 7: But the bottom line is the reports that we get 1098 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 7: are not necessarily the actual accurate reports. 1099 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 1: All right, hold, I thought that way. We got to 1100 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,360 Speaker 1: a step aside for a few moments. When we come 1101 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 1: back to truth telling, Cleveland has a question for you 1102 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 1: or comment. Family YouTube can join our conversation with Sister 1103 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:17,600 Speaker 1: phil At Sister Phileas group the Million Women March, they're 1104 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 1: highlighting the hundreds, the thousands of missing Black women and 1105 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,959 Speaker 1: young girls, and this happens on an annual basis. Also 1106 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 1: talks about trafficking and also you know, harvesting of body parts. 1107 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 1: We're going to get deep into that as well. What's 1108 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,960 Speaker 1: going on here? Family? What are your thoughts? Reach out 1109 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 1: to us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy 1110 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 1: eight seventy sixty ticket phone calls next and Grand Rising family, 1111 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 1: and thank you for starting your week with us this 1112 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,919 Speaker 1: Monday morning, the second day of February, with our guest 1113 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 1: Sister Philet. Sister hilais with the Million Women March, and 1114 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 1: she's talking about the missing young girls and women, Black 1115 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,280 Speaker 1: young girls and women and as she says, the thousands 1116 01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 1: of them. What are your thoughts about that? Why do 1117 01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 1: you think it's not receiving as not to write as 1118 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,280 Speaker 1: they should If they were different women and young girls, 1119 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 1: they'll be talking about this, They'll be trying to figure 1120 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,479 Speaker 1: out ways what's going on here? She talked about human 1121 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 1: trafficking and also harveston and organs of the maybe involved family. 1122 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 1: This is some serious business right here. You want to 1123 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,640 Speaker 1: join this conversation, hit us up at eight hundred four 1124 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,919 Speaker 1: or five zero seventy eight seventy six. I mentioned before 1125 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 1: the Break the Truth tells called from Cleveland. I want 1126 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 1: to speak to sister for a grand rise and true 1127 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,040 Speaker 1: tailing your own sister, phill a. 1128 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 12: Boy Kevin and sister. I didn't get your name. I 1129 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 12: apologize for that, but here's what I wanted to say. 1130 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:40,920 Speaker 12: This stuff do make you angry. And Le'm gonna tell 1131 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 12: you about I know you heard about Anthony so Well, 1132 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 12: the Cleveland strangler. 1133 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 7: Mm oh yeah. We were in Cleveland, right. 1134 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 12: And this stuff is still going on right where they 1135 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 12: ignore you know. That's one of the problems I had 1136 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,320 Speaker 12: with the police. I don't like to beat them up, 1137 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 12: but they do. They just don't care. I'm gonna tell 1138 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 12: you about the incident that happened right in front of 1139 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,240 Speaker 12: my house one morning, two three in the morning. I 1140 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 12: just hear some screaming and I got security cameras all 1141 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 12: around my house. I got up and I ran in 1142 01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 12: my security cameras looking and I see this young she 1143 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,919 Speaker 12: was in maybe in her twenties, mid twenties, maybe early. 1144 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,960 Speaker 12: She was on the ground and it looked like she 1145 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 12: had comed out the car. There was a truck right there. 1146 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 12: The dude came got out that truck. He came running 1147 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 12: pat her grabbed her picked her up. I had either one. 1148 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,600 Speaker 12: I mean, it happened so fast, I had one or 1149 01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 12: two choices. Try to throw them some clothes, grab protection 1150 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 12: and go out there and help her, which I don't 1151 01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,040 Speaker 12: know if that would have been a good idea. Or 1152 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,200 Speaker 12: pick up the phone and call the police, right. And 1153 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:46,280 Speaker 12: so I called the police. Police didn't come. I called 1154 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,440 Speaker 12: him two, three, four times. They still didn't come. Right. So, 1155 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 12: about three or four hours later, a black police officer 1156 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 12: show up at my house. I say, man, I'm worried 1157 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:55,560 Speaker 12: about that girl. I don't know whether it was the 1158 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 12: domestic violence, whether somebody was kidnapping or what, but the 1159 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,920 Speaker 12: woman was screaming, she was being beating up, and she 1160 01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 12: was taking against her whip. Black cop didn't even blink twice. 1161 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 12: He looked at about a minute of the video. I say, man, 1162 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,040 Speaker 12: do you want a copy of the video? No, I 1163 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:12,840 Speaker 12: don't want to copy. 1164 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 13: Left. 1165 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 12: Ain't heard from him since. And this is one of 1166 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 12: the problems because you have a lot of this stuff, 1167 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 12: and it's like that same thing with Anthony Sowell. That's 1168 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,200 Speaker 12: why he was able to kill all the women because 1169 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:27,480 Speaker 12: the law enforcement didn't care. And when you talk about oregons, 1170 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:29,640 Speaker 12: that's what. I believe a lot of this stuff going on. 1171 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 12: I'm gonna tell you just a brief little thing that 1172 01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:32,800 Speaker 12: happened to me. I had a brother that was murder 1173 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,920 Speaker 12: here in the city of Cleveland. Matter of fact, he 1174 01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,640 Speaker 12: was literally murdered across the street from Tamir Rice. What 1175 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 12: Tamiir Rice was killed literally right? So come to find 1176 01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,320 Speaker 12: out what the police did. They say he was shot 1177 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 12: in the leg right and he bled out. So of 1178 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 12: course we want to know where the bullet hole is located. 1179 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 12: All this kind of stuff, all the tips of reporting, 1180 01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 12: but they ended up freezing his body and clothing from 1181 01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,760 Speaker 12: the waist down we've never been able to find at 1182 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 12: the hospital. Instead of them giving the clothes to the 1183 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 12: to the UH, to the to the homicide folks, they 1184 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,640 Speaker 12: gave Hunts his shirt and stuff. I had to call 1185 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,040 Speaker 12: the homicide detections to meet with them. They give him 1186 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:11,920 Speaker 12: his shirt and stuff, but anyway, they didn't even have 1187 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,439 Speaker 12: his pants, his underwear anything. Still never found to this day. 1188 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,480 Speaker 12: We had to have a close casted and all this 1189 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 12: they end up freezing his body. Messed it up. 1190 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:19,840 Speaker 13: Man. 1191 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 12: We were pissed and we were trying to figure out 1192 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,320 Speaker 12: did they get some organs from this from this guy. 1193 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 12: So one, how do you get law enforcement to take 1194 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,960 Speaker 12: uh the abuse of black women and black girls seriously? 1195 01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,040 Speaker 12: Because in the city of Cleveland they don't take that, 1196 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,400 Speaker 12: And how do you they don't do that? And so 1197 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:43,280 Speaker 12: how do you Also, how do you determine if you 1198 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,520 Speaker 12: have a love was who's been deceased or whatnot, or 1199 01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,480 Speaker 12: who's been murdered, whatever the case may be. How do 1200 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 12: you tell if the organs have been removed? Should the 1201 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,320 Speaker 12: should the funeral home tell you? Because what they told 1202 01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 12: us was the once the body is frozen, they couldn't 1203 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:00,880 Speaker 12: need there was only are the things they could do 1204 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,480 Speaker 12: because they couldn't put this typy and bombing fluid and 1205 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 12: all this stuff in it. So how do you tell 1206 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:11,120 Speaker 12: if somebody's organs are missing? How do you tell? 1207 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:17,160 Speaker 7: Okay, all right, am I going to respond to this? Wow? 1208 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 13: But thank you brother for that. 1209 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,600 Speaker 7: We were in Cleveland. Big ups to one of my 1210 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,600 Speaker 7: sisters because we have a chapter in Cleveland or developing one. 1211 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,920 Speaker 13: So we were there a couple of years ago. 1212 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 7: And even when I was on Brothercause program, I guess 1213 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,880 Speaker 7: maybe a month or so ago, I mentioned that very 1214 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 7: same case that you know it was the smell that 1215 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:42,080 Speaker 7: finally made the police people come to the house, and 1216 01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,800 Speaker 7: of course when they got there, they found not only 1217 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 7: the bodies, but that he had actually just remembered some 1218 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,720 Speaker 7: of the bodies. And this is what we've been talking about. 1219 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:55,080 Speaker 7: We're not only looking and listening to and watching, you know, 1220 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:59,080 Speaker 7: certain types of things, crimes or whatever. We're looking at 1221 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:03,000 Speaker 7: some other stuff. Now this all has escalated to another level. 1222 01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,080 Speaker 7: Now to go back to what you were saying, brother, 1223 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 7: two or three things really, and again thank you for 1224 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,640 Speaker 7: sharing that information. We had a brother here in Philly 1225 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,000 Speaker 7: and I sent this to brother Carl a couple of 1226 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,160 Speaker 7: weeks ago, a couple of days ago. There was a 1227 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 7: kidnapping in twenty fourteen here in Philly. Her name was 1228 01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,640 Speaker 7: Calicia Gather, I believe her name was. 1229 01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 5: And it was a. 1230 01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 7: Brother like you who saw her being dragged and put 1231 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 7: in the car and his immediate you know, as a 1232 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 7: black man, a real black man, who his immediate response 1233 01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,519 Speaker 7: was to try to do something. I think they pulled 1234 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:39,360 Speaker 7: a gun on whatever. 1235 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:40,559 Speaker 13: But he digged it at least. 1236 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,360 Speaker 7: The license place or the description of the car, whatever, 1237 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 7: and he did go to police. In this particular case, 1238 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 7: it did help it did work because ultimately they did 1239 01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,360 Speaker 7: find the dude after several days he had had her. 1240 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,160 Speaker 7: But the point that also has to be made is this, 1241 01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,559 Speaker 7: and this is why early what I said, just and 1242 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:05,920 Speaker 7: carefully without depending on the government. See that going back 1243 01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:09,040 Speaker 7: to what brother called asks, why is this not so 1244 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,640 Speaker 7: you know, of interest to folks, et cetera, et cetera. 1245 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:18,720 Speaker 7: People got to realize that some unfortunately allegedly, I have 1246 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:25,040 Speaker 7: to say, have been involved in some of these situations kidnapping, 1247 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:29,920 Speaker 7: et cetera. And we have documentation where in Pennsylvania, one 1248 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 7: of the counties, there were two judges who were involved 1249 01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:38,000 Speaker 7: in what they call cash for kids, and that's documented, 1250 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,400 Speaker 7: so we can show you the evidence on that one. 1251 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,280 Speaker 7: But the point that I'm saying is we have learned 1252 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:48,280 Speaker 7: from our research we would never depend on the government 1253 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,479 Speaker 7: to do certain things for us. And it's not to 1254 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,160 Speaker 7: say that we won't align ourselves to some degree or 1255 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 7: because they got information, they've got other things that we 1256 01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:02,000 Speaker 7: do need, but to depend on that as if that's 1257 01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,639 Speaker 7: the all and all that for me is where people 1258 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,360 Speaker 7: have gone around and why it's not a thing in 1259 01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,519 Speaker 7: our community. Because here's the truth, y'all. And if you're 1260 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,400 Speaker 7: not ready for it, then I don't know what to 1261 01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 7: tell you. But here it is a lot of our 1262 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:23,280 Speaker 7: issues are about money. It's about what we call now 1263 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:27,759 Speaker 7: the poverty pimps. And so if it can't make folk money, 1264 01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,720 Speaker 7: they're not going to get involved in it. And unfortunately, 1265 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:35,439 Speaker 7: right now, this has not been an issue that people 1266 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 7: have been able to pimp or make money off of. 1267 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:43,600 Speaker 7: And also because it has been connected to higher levels 1268 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 7: of involvement, then of course you know people are kind 1269 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,840 Speaker 7: of steered away from it, be it consciously or subconsciously, 1270 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:55,880 Speaker 7: or directly or indirectly. So the main focus dealing with 1271 01:10:56,080 --> 01:11:02,080 Speaker 7: violence in our community has been targeted by your political 1272 01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:08,000 Speaker 7: parties to deal with guns, gangs, and drugs. Those are 1273 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:12,280 Speaker 7: your primary those groups, organizations, activists or whatever for the 1274 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:17,360 Speaker 7: most parts, in that particular arena of anti violence, those 1275 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,760 Speaker 7: are the three areas that they pretty much put most of, 1276 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,519 Speaker 7: not all, of their attention and work into, and that 1277 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:28,360 Speaker 7: is again, guns, gangs, and drugs. Those areas, that's where 1278 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:29,719 Speaker 7: their money, that's where their. 1279 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:30,760 Speaker 13: Attention goes to. 1280 01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,519 Speaker 7: So again going back to what brother Law asks, why 1281 01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:38,559 Speaker 7: aren't we in our community, because one we are not 1282 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:43,800 Speaker 7: organized in terms of dealing with certain issues. We're more 1283 01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,120 Speaker 7: organized to deal with immigrant issues than we are the 1284 01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:51,800 Speaker 7: issues in our communities. We will not organize on a 1285 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:56,360 Speaker 7: national level, in particular when it comes to these types 1286 01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:01,519 Speaker 7: of issues, because we are programmed and away where we 1287 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:02,519 Speaker 7: don't want to hear about this. 1288 01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:04,799 Speaker 13: We don't want to because it is painful. 1289 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:08,439 Speaker 7: Like you said, brother, it is very painful, particularly when 1290 01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:12,720 Speaker 7: you've seen it, experienced it, or if you are in 1291 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 7: fact an authentic black man or woman, were certain things 1292 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:17,160 Speaker 7: touch your spirit? 1293 01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,240 Speaker 13: And so why yeah. 1294 01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:22,960 Speaker 1: Hold, I thought right, there's sister phil A thirty minutes 1295 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:24,800 Speaker 1: after the time of our family, just checking in. I 1296 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,840 Speaker 1: guess her sister fill A just hurt her. She's from 1297 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 1: the Mill and Woman March. And what she's doing is 1298 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,840 Speaker 1: spotlighting the fact that thousands, thousands, and let me say 1299 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,800 Speaker 1: that again, thousands of black young girls and women are 1300 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,040 Speaker 1: missing and or when they turned up their their organs 1301 01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:43,680 Speaker 1: are missing. We're talking about organ harvesting right now. Or 1302 01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:48,559 Speaker 1: nobody's reporting them. That's another issue too. Why well some 1303 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,639 Speaker 1: are getting reported when not all of them are being reported. 1304 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,080 Speaker 1: We'll we'll talk about that in a moment, but right now, 1305 01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,160 Speaker 1: Kimberly is joining us from Philadelphia's well she's online too, 1306 01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,479 Speaker 1: Grand Rising Kimberly, you're on with sister phil A. 1307 01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,600 Speaker 15: Yes, greetings everyone, and I give great respect to my 1308 01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:05,120 Speaker 15: sistant press. 1309 01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,000 Speaker 6: She listen. 1310 01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,519 Speaker 15: What she I'm going to try to piggyback off of 1311 01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:18,120 Speaker 15: what UH specifically just said. In terms of organizations, we 1312 01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,800 Speaker 15: are empowered by numbers, but we are unorganized just in 1313 01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:28,559 Speaker 15: truth in that the situation here in Philadelphia as well 1314 01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:33,320 Speaker 15: as many states is that our owner are are are 1315 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:37,000 Speaker 15: selling out our own right. This is the known documentation 1316 01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:42,400 Speaker 15: that I just bear witness to as empress. She said 1317 01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:46,880 Speaker 15: that there are churches here, faith based religions, Christians that 1318 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:51,400 Speaker 15: are actually doing workshops and conferences on this NI just 1319 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:56,920 Speaker 15: had one where they had actual survivors speaking. But what 1320 01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:01,160 Speaker 15: one is doing anything more beyond that that? I think 1321 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:08,200 Speaker 15: that's empowering for myself as a mentor known now as 1322 01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:12,599 Speaker 15: a disciple Tea. I get out there and I touched 1323 01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:16,280 Speaker 15: these families. You have to get out there and pay 1324 01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:19,559 Speaker 15: attention like our brother just did. He was on he 1325 01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 15: was paying attention, but nothing was done. You got to 1326 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,360 Speaker 15: get out of there and look around because it's right 1327 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,720 Speaker 15: in front of you. It's right in front of you 1328 01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,960 Speaker 15: where our family are not paying attention, and I'm gonna 1329 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:35,240 Speaker 15: be quick. I give you two examples. One example is 1330 01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,200 Speaker 15: I was in a family dollar right by the door, 1331 01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:42,559 Speaker 15: right by the door easy exit out where a three 1332 01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:47,080 Speaker 15: year old autistic he's opening up the gifts and his 1333 01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:49,960 Speaker 15: mother is on the other side of the store with 1334 01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:54,240 Speaker 15: her ten and twelve year old. So my attention called 1335 01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,080 Speaker 15: to this baby boy, he's opening up the gifts. I 1336 01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:00,479 Speaker 15: was on the other side buying cards. I I was 1337 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:05,280 Speaker 15: a predator. That little baby would have been gone. Another example, 1338 01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:10,800 Speaker 15: on my way to the actual trafficking conference, I met 1339 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,160 Speaker 15: a young lady on the corner and I was sharing 1340 01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:17,720 Speaker 15: with her about to be careful about the trafficking. She 1341 01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,920 Speaker 15: actually said to me that in the Northeast a week 1342 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:25,280 Speaker 15: prior to that, a car pulled up. She was doing 1343 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,479 Speaker 15: hair for a friend, came out to come home to 1344 01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:32,559 Speaker 15: wait for the bus, and a truck van dark tinted 1345 01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,840 Speaker 15: windows pulled up in front of her. 1346 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:37,080 Speaker 13: She took off. 1347 01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,680 Speaker 15: She didn't hesitate, she ran and followed her. She went 1348 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,280 Speaker 15: into the Sunoco station and told them to lock the doors, 1349 01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:46,840 Speaker 15: but instead of calling the police. 1350 01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,959 Speaker 13: She called an uber. She called an uber. 1351 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,920 Speaker 15: Got into uber and not saying that the police won't 1352 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,719 Speaker 15: do anything. But at that time, that van was parked 1353 01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:00,160 Speaker 15: right outside. That's anoka waiting on her that is with 1354 01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 15: the police should have been called to get involved. And 1355 01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,920 Speaker 15: I'm gonna stop right there, because as my sister Freelay knows, 1356 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,840 Speaker 15: I can go on and on. I'm just cage back 1357 01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,519 Speaker 15: and offer some of the stuff that's going on is 1358 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,679 Speaker 15: right in front of us that people are not paying attention. 1359 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,400 Speaker 15: At that point, I logged her on to the lieutenant 1360 01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:21,320 Speaker 15: that's in my thirty ninth district because I have them 1361 01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,920 Speaker 15: on speed dial, and he talked to her and she 1362 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,519 Speaker 15: submitted a report. She called in later and submitted a report. 1363 01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,840 Speaker 15: If we don't say nothing, it's going to continue. And 1364 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,160 Speaker 15: I thank you for that time. 1365 01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. Kimberly twenty six away from the top. She's 1366 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,200 Speaker 1: a hilla. She mentioned that the person called the uber 1367 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,519 Speaker 1: instead of calling the police. Is there still a stigma 1368 01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,960 Speaker 1: in our community when he comes to events that take 1369 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:45,920 Speaker 1: place in our community. Well, I don't want to call 1370 01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:49,240 Speaker 1: the cops, you know, I don't trust the police, even 1371 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,240 Speaker 1: if you know a major problem, like we're talking about 1372 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,519 Speaker 1: an abduction of a child or something like that is 1373 01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,360 Speaker 1: that still a prevalent in our community where we don't 1374 01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:58,200 Speaker 1: trust the cops. 1375 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:04,400 Speaker 7: Well, brother call, I mean unfortunately, yeah. This see we 1376 01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,280 Speaker 7: live in real time, in real life situations and this 1377 01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,920 Speaker 7: is not you know, TV, this is not the housewives 1378 01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,400 Speaker 7: and all that stuff. We're in these streets. Thank you, 1379 01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:17,160 Speaker 7: Sister Cam. Again, we've been doing this work consistently for 1380 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,880 Speaker 7: over ten years in this particular area, and I can 1381 01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:26,160 Speaker 7: tell you for Philadelphia again there's oftentimes conferences or discussions, 1382 01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:29,280 Speaker 7: well not often, but you know, periodically, but I can 1383 01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:32,599 Speaker 7: literally show you where we've reached out to various groups 1384 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:37,880 Speaker 7: and organizations to get their support and help and no response. 1385 01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,679 Speaker 7: So to go back to what you were asking, brother 1386 01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:45,000 Speaker 7: coll about, you know again the disconnect not only with 1387 01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,480 Speaker 7: law enforcement. And by the way, big ups to Commissioner 1388 01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:52,759 Speaker 7: Johnson who's now retired, because he was our Philadelphia police 1389 01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:57,600 Speaker 7: commissioner years ago. Now under his direction, we didn't have 1390 01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:03,280 Speaker 7: this problem where folks didn't feel comfortable about contacting the 1391 01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:08,600 Speaker 7: police because they knew that commissioner he was all right. 1392 01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:12,080 Speaker 7: And so the relationships this is again part of the 1393 01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,000 Speaker 7: problem and what we're now doing in building to make 1394 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,080 Speaker 7: sure that sister can just see it. We have to 1395 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:21,200 Speaker 7: connect to the local police departments and and not and 1396 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,160 Speaker 7: again not that stuff they be talking about pal. 1397 01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:24,599 Speaker 13: And all of that. 1398 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:29,440 Speaker 7: No, to make sure that we have the proper advocates 1399 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:34,400 Speaker 7: that's representing us and representatives that's representing us to be 1400 01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:38,559 Speaker 7: able to interact and engage on our behalf. This is 1401 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,840 Speaker 7: not what we have in our communities on a consistent 1402 01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,479 Speaker 7: intentional basis. This is why one of the things we're 1403 01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,960 Speaker 7: proposing for Philadelphia on March the first, we're having a 1404 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:55,840 Speaker 7: major gathering number one, our own found Watch, so that 1405 01:18:55,960 --> 01:19:00,439 Speaker 7: in our communities there's a designated person or persons that 1406 01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,719 Speaker 7: we know we can go to because this is our 1407 01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:10,679 Speaker 7: MWM Black Communities United and Watch group. Also to connect 1408 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:15,640 Speaker 7: to that have our own city community block captains or 1409 01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,800 Speaker 7: we call them block generals because the city has block captains. 1410 01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:24,120 Speaker 7: This way, people in their communities know that they're our 1411 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:29,080 Speaker 7: block general. They report to us once a month with information, 1412 01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:33,240 Speaker 7: et cetera. See, this is organizing. This is so that 1413 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,400 Speaker 7: we don't have to just go to the police in 1414 01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,360 Speaker 7: that manner, right and hold up thought. 1415 01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:39,880 Speaker 1: Right, there's just a flea got a step aside and 1416 01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:41,720 Speaker 1: get caught up in the latest news, trafficking, weather in 1417 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,760 Speaker 1: our different cities. When we come back, please tell us 1418 01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,719 Speaker 1: why people will not report you know that a mission 1419 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:51,240 Speaker 1: child or a mission adult, a mission black women, what's 1420 01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,080 Speaker 1: the you know why why they don't refuse to do that. 1421 01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:55,800 Speaker 1: I want to share that with a family when we 1422 01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,000 Speaker 1: get back twenty two minutes away from the top day, 1423 01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,600 Speaker 1: our family were gonna check the news trafficking within and 1424 01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,680 Speaker 1: at different cities. Will come back with Sister Filla. You 1425 01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,360 Speaker 1: want to join us, hit us up at eight hundred 1426 01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:06,240 Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six, and we're 1427 01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,439 Speaker 1: going to take all your phone calls next and Grand 1428 01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,960 Speaker 1: Rising family, thanks for starting your week with us. Fifteen 1429 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,080 Speaker 1: minutes away from the top of the hour, Sister Philet's 1430 01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,040 Speaker 1: sister Fila is with the Million Women March and she's 1431 01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,720 Speaker 1: spotlining the fact that there are thousands let me say 1432 01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:22,439 Speaker 1: that again, thousands of missing young Black girls and black 1433 01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:24,639 Speaker 1: women and something needs to be done about it because 1434 01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:29,040 Speaker 1: we're talking about including these abductions, we're talking about or 1435 01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:33,559 Speaker 1: organ harveston as well. We talk about sexual trafficking as well. 1436 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,080 Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts? Family, you want to get 1437 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:36,880 Speaker 1: in on this conversation. Reach out to us at eight 1438 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,240 Speaker 1: hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six before 1439 01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:41,840 Speaker 1: we go back to her there, let me just remind 1440 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,439 Speaker 1: you come up. Later this morning, we're gona speak at 1441 01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:47,439 Speaker 1: Futuristic Researcher brother Sadika Baccari, and later this week we're 1442 01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,200 Speaker 1: gonna hear from the Grillo Professor James Small will be here, 1443 01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:53,439 Speaker 1: Mark from Anaheim will check in, and also Baltimore's warrior 1444 01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:55,760 Speaker 1: lawyer Jay Wendell Gordon will be here as well. So 1445 01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,800 Speaker 1: if you are in Baltimore, make sure you keep your 1446 01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,360 Speaker 1: ready locked in real tight. On ten ten will be 1447 01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:03,439 Speaker 1: friend of d MV though we're rolled in on fourteen 1448 01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,280 Speaker 1: fifty w L all right, Sister Phla. The question I 1449 01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,920 Speaker 1: asked you, what are the reluctance of, whether it be 1450 01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,600 Speaker 1: family members or mates not reporting that these girls and 1451 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,679 Speaker 1: young women or I say young women, I guess women 1452 01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:17,320 Speaker 1: are and we can get into that as well. The 1453 01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,880 Speaker 1: age of these women that are being abducted are missing. 1454 01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:26,120 Speaker 1: Why is there some sort of reluctance your your thoughts, 1455 01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:32,720 Speaker 1: Sister Fila. I'm not hearing Sister Fila. I know she's 1456 01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:38,160 Speaker 1: on the line because I hear the line clicking. I 1457 01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,160 Speaker 1: think I think she has a problem with their phone. 1458 01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Kevin, to see if we can 1459 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,559 Speaker 1: get her back on the line. And because also now 1460 01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:46,840 Speaker 1: yeah we can hear. 1461 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:50,720 Speaker 7: Now okay, great, okay. So to answer your question, wrote 1462 01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:54,559 Speaker 7: the call and we mentioned this before. Unfortunately, there's a 1463 01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:59,280 Speaker 7: lot of different movie pieces for this, but to simplify it, 1464 01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,599 Speaker 7: and again, we'll want to be consulting with some of 1465 01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:05,400 Speaker 7: our professionals as we proceed because we want to be 1466 01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,360 Speaker 7: able to back up what we're saying. You know, some 1467 01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,839 Speaker 7: of it is what we're kind of witnessing and seeing, 1468 01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:12,479 Speaker 7: but we want to be able to look at it 1469 01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,880 Speaker 7: from the perspective of professionals. So we're going to be 1470 01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:19,120 Speaker 7: getting with some of our psychologists and also some of 1471 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,040 Speaker 7: our folks that are in social work areas and so 1472 01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,759 Speaker 7: forth to begin to really pinpoint some of the wives 1473 01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:29,000 Speaker 7: as you're asking. But I can say, based on what 1474 01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:32,519 Speaker 7: we see so far, is this And brother Malcolm put 1475 01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:36,320 Speaker 7: it kind of simplified it, but made it very pleaiant 1476 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,799 Speaker 7: over sixty years ago, and he said that the most 1477 01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:41,600 Speaker 7: disrespected person. 1478 01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:43,120 Speaker 16: In America is the black woman. 1479 01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:51,080 Speaker 7: So unfortunately, looking at being enslaved where all of us 1480 01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:56,920 Speaker 7: were in fact, you know, britalized human rights violations and 1481 01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:03,360 Speaker 7: so forth. The actual entity that was considered the lowest 1482 01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:04,320 Speaker 7: of all. 1483 01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:05,400 Speaker 9: Of that was the black woman. 1484 01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,200 Speaker 7: And how do we know that? Just fast forward and 1485 01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,559 Speaker 7: go through and I'm sure you'll find the evidence of 1486 01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,880 Speaker 7: that as well. Even in more contemporary times when we 1487 01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:18,160 Speaker 7: saw a time for folks to be able to vote, 1488 01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,400 Speaker 7: black women weren't able to vote at the time when 1489 01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:25,680 Speaker 7: everyone else was so anyway, so there is a psychological 1490 01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,479 Speaker 7: at least in my opinion, there's some psychological stuff that 1491 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:33,360 Speaker 7: is underlaying as to why when it comes to black 1492 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:37,360 Speaker 7: women and girls that becomes like either a taboo and 1493 01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:41,520 Speaker 7: or just something that is not of much of importance. 1494 01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:46,000 Speaker 7: And to me, it's a psychological thing because when you 1495 01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:51,840 Speaker 7: do things against mother see and it's allowed, then that 1496 01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,880 Speaker 7: means the rest of the children, and I mean as 1497 01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:58,280 Speaker 7: a people, things can be done to them a little 1498 01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:02,400 Speaker 7: more easily or a little more advanced an advanced way. 1499 01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:07,120 Speaker 7: So my point is, people see our enemies, see our 1500 01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:13,800 Speaker 7: lack of wanting to do things relevant to those who 1501 01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:17,000 Speaker 7: are going to nurture our children. Because this is like 1502 01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:21,639 Speaker 7: a double ed sword if you neutralize or eliminate or 1503 01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,840 Speaker 7: do whatever to mother nine time out of ten, that's 1504 01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:28,719 Speaker 7: going to have a direct effect on the children. Why 1505 01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:33,360 Speaker 7: because mother tends to have the children the majority of 1506 01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:36,440 Speaker 7: the time, at least the first phase of their lives. 1507 01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,479 Speaker 7: So obviously, if you do something that is going to 1508 01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:46,639 Speaker 7: affect mother, you automatically have now attached that to the child, 1509 01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,800 Speaker 7: and the enemy knows that. So we have to have 1510 01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,040 Speaker 7: a better understanding of those things. If I could just 1511 01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,400 Speaker 7: take a few moments call to give you a couple 1512 01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:59,919 Speaker 7: of statistics, and again, maybe there's will jar some brains. 1513 01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:07,120 Speaker 7: Sex trap sex sex trade survivors. Now, no, this is 1514 01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:11,080 Speaker 7: like an industry, y'all. Right, Then when you begin to 1515 01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,120 Speaker 7: research this stuff and look at it, you're going to 1516 01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:18,000 Speaker 7: find words and phrases and categories. 1517 01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:18,320 Speaker 9: For this kind of stuff. 1518 01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:24,080 Speaker 7: Remember, sex trafficking is not just prostitution, right or you know, 1519 01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:28,439 Speaker 7: selling of one for sex. You have an industry, a 1520 01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:33,719 Speaker 7: film industry that's a whole nother thing that people don't 1521 01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:38,320 Speaker 7: even talk about and associated with that is different clubs 1522 01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:41,719 Speaker 7: and other kind of social if you're gonna call them social, 1523 01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:45,680 Speaker 7: but other kinds of interactions where you know, children and 1524 01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:49,200 Speaker 7: so forth are put into those circles. And this is 1525 01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:51,800 Speaker 7: again why you're not going to hear much about it, 1526 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:56,000 Speaker 7: because that's more on the elite side. And so again, 1527 01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,800 Speaker 7: to go too deep into bringing that kind of stuff up, 1528 01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:04,320 Speaker 7: that means that it could expose people that don't want. 1529 01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:04,880 Speaker 6: To be exposed. 1530 01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:10,000 Speaker 7: But let me just give you a few stats. For example, 1531 01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:15,519 Speaker 7: would you believe that in Nebraska, fifty percent of the 1532 01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:21,640 Speaker 7: individual sould on line note on line for sex or black? Now, now, 1533 01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:26,800 Speaker 7: wait a minute, Nebraska, fifty percent of individual sould online 1534 01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:33,360 Speaker 7: for sex are black, though black people comprised five percent 1535 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:40,240 Speaker 7: of the population, So you figure if that's Nebraska. Let 1536 01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:44,320 Speaker 7: me give you another one. In Cook County, Illinois, sixty 1537 01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:48,439 Speaker 7: six percent of sex trafficking victims between twenty twelve and 1538 01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:53,439 Speaker 7: twenty sixteen were black, sixty six percent, and they were 1539 01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:59,479 Speaker 7: black women. So let's just give you a general idea 1540 01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:03,400 Speaker 7: of scooing on. So again, to answer your question for 1541 01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:07,439 Speaker 7: the call why, there's a whole bunch of reasons why. 1542 01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,679 Speaker 7: But I'm gonna go back to one of the first ones. 1543 01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:15,519 Speaker 7: It is not financially lucrative enough. But I guarantee you 1544 01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:20,320 Speaker 7: in the next two years and preparation for the next election. 1545 01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:25,400 Speaker 7: Watch how more attention becomes placed on this because they're 1546 01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,240 Speaker 7: gonna want black women to have another reason to be 1547 01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:28,960 Speaker 7: able to vote. 1548 01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:32,240 Speaker 1: Well, let me jump in here and at this, because 1549 01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, the job layoffs, especially the federal jobs, the 1550 01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,639 Speaker 1: black women are more impacted than any other group. Your 1551 01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:39,400 Speaker 1: thoughts about that. 1552 01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,840 Speaker 7: But in terms of jobs, you're saying. 1553 01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, the government layouts. 1554 01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's for now. But again, this is a 1555 01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:52,360 Speaker 7: seesaw situation. For me, it's a ring around the rosie. 1556 01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:56,639 Speaker 7: It's good cop backhop and so yes, and I think again, 1557 01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,800 Speaker 7: these are important areas that we should look at, but 1558 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,200 Speaker 7: I think some things become a deterrent to some degree 1559 01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:07,439 Speaker 7: in dealing with more specific direct effects. And you're right, 1560 01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:12,519 Speaker 7: the job situation is important and we should definitely address that. 1561 01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:16,559 Speaker 7: But what I'm saying is there is an inequality going 1562 01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:20,120 Speaker 7: on when it comes to issues certain issues. So while 1563 01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:24,439 Speaker 7: the employment and other kinds of things are definitely relevant 1564 01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:29,360 Speaker 7: and should be addressed, there's an imbalance. So, yes, there's 1565 01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:34,439 Speaker 7: an impact with our women being unemployed, but again for me, 1566 01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,680 Speaker 7: in certain ways, that's sort of a distraction from the 1567 01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:44,400 Speaker 7: whole issue of our people being not only unemployed in 1568 01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:48,799 Speaker 7: the system, which is a whole other conversation. But again, 1569 01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,120 Speaker 7: my focus for right now, brother call has to be 1570 01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:55,800 Speaker 7: our women and girls when it comes to the violations 1571 01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,280 Speaker 7: of not only the civil rights and human rights, but 1572 01:28:58,360 --> 01:28:59,719 Speaker 7: their God given rights. 1573 01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:02,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hold that thought right there. I got a 1574 01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:05,840 Speaker 1: couple of tweets for you, Sister Filai just teching and 1575 01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,280 Speaker 1: found Sister Fila is with the Million Women in March 1576 01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:12,080 Speaker 1: and we spotlighting the thousands of missing Black girls and 1577 01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,320 Speaker 1: women and this is what she's talking about. This is 1578 01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:17,439 Speaker 1: her groups are working on right now. First tweet says, 1579 01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:21,000 Speaker 1: please ask your guest about Philadelphia Sheriff Rochelle Belal, a 1580 01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:23,599 Speaker 1: Black woman with deep roots in the community. You're getting 1581 01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:27,479 Speaker 1: any help from Rochelle Bilau, the sheriff in Philly. 1582 01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:34,080 Speaker 7: Actually, and again big up to sister Rochelle. She's doing 1583 01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:38,320 Speaker 7: some really interesting things that need to happen, particularly when 1584 01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:42,680 Speaker 7: it comes to dealing with the situation of ice. But unfortunately, 1585 01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:46,280 Speaker 7: again I will say this and continue to say it, 1586 01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:50,360 Speaker 7: for Philadelphia in particular, Million Woman in March has gotten 1587 01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:55,240 Speaker 7: very little support over the years, and one of the reasons, 1588 01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:58,439 Speaker 7: again is political. Million worm and marches cannot be bought 1589 01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,720 Speaker 7: or sold never as never will. And by the way, 1590 01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:03,880 Speaker 7: I'm not just whipped the Million Woman in March. I 1591 01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:07,160 Speaker 7: am the founder of the Million Woman in March. So 1592 01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:11,559 Speaker 7: to answer the guest question, we're hoping that now as 1593 01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:15,880 Speaker 7: we bring greater attention to this issue, that our people 1594 01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:20,000 Speaker 7: in Philly, particularly those in law enforcement, but also in 1595 01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:23,640 Speaker 7: other arenas, will in fact now embrace. We have a 1596 01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:28,439 Speaker 7: major national call that's going out from May ninth. It 1597 01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:31,400 Speaker 7: is a call all over the country for folks to 1598 01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:35,599 Speaker 7: do something on that day. It's the day before Mother's Day, 1599 01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:37,680 Speaker 7: and we do it every year. We've been doing it 1600 01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:41,840 Speaker 7: for like ten years. But again the support has been 1601 01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:45,800 Speaker 7: minimum because again, we do not align ourselves with any 1602 01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:49,840 Speaker 7: political party, We do not align ourselves with any religion 1603 01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:54,320 Speaker 7: or anything like that. We are very proactive in terms 1604 01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:58,800 Speaker 7: of being black and that's the fundamental thing for us. 1605 01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,680 Speaker 7: We let other supposed to do the other things. But 1606 01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:06,439 Speaker 7: again for Philadelphia, having brought two million black women to 1607 01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:10,960 Speaker 7: Philadelphia and ninety seven, generating over twenty five million dollars 1608 01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:16,600 Speaker 7: in the city and around the city, unfortunately, the reception 1609 01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:20,799 Speaker 7: and the support for Million one March over the years, 1610 01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:24,240 Speaker 7: and we have been very active over the years, particularly 1611 01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:27,960 Speaker 7: in Philadelphia. It has not been one that has been 1612 01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:31,200 Speaker 7: very welcoming. In fact, we're looking maybe to come to 1613 01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,479 Speaker 7: DC to do the Million Women Latch reunion for next 1614 01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:38,400 Speaker 7: year because of the lack of support that we've seen 1615 01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:41,520 Speaker 7: from the sophall policy be in Philadelphia. 1616 01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:43,640 Speaker 1: All right, Hold, that's all right. Then we got to 1617 01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:45,160 Speaker 1: check the traffic and weather one more time in a 1618 01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,320 Speaker 1: different cities when we come back. I got another tweet 1619 01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:49,760 Speaker 1: for a question or comment for you from one I 1620 01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:52,240 Speaker 1: guess family. You want to join this conversation with sister 1621 01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:54,920 Speaker 1: Phillis you mentioned as the founder of the Million Women March. 1622 01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:56,840 Speaker 1: You can reach us an eight hundred and four or 1623 01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,880 Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take all 1624 01:31:59,920 --> 01:32:02,639 Speaker 1: the calls after we check the trafficking weather. That's next 1625 01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,040 Speaker 1: and Grand Rising family, thanks for checking in with us 1626 01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:07,120 Speaker 1: on this Monday morning. Thanks for starting a week with us. 1627 01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:09,840 Speaker 1: A momentarily, we're going to speak with futuristic researcher brother 1628 01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,160 Speaker 1: Sidika Bakari. Right now we're speaking with a Sister Philly 1629 01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:17,560 Speaker 1: from the founder of the Women's and the let me 1630 01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,160 Speaker 1: get straight here the Million Women March, and right now 1631 01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:22,880 Speaker 1: she spotlined the fact that there's thousands. Let me say 1632 01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:25,040 Speaker 1: it again. I keep saying it again, thousands of missing 1633 01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:28,960 Speaker 1: black women and children, young girls are missing. So what 1634 01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:30,439 Speaker 1: are your thoughts? Family, you want to get in on 1635 01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:32,519 Speaker 1: this conversation, reach out to us at eight hundred and 1636 01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:35,120 Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six. So I 1637 01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,479 Speaker 1: mentioned before, we had a tweet for you, sister Philly, 1638 01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:41,360 Speaker 1: and this tweeter says grand Rising, and he says, this 1639 01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:43,760 Speaker 1: has been troubling me for some time. Another thing that 1640 01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:48,040 Speaker 1: is going on is management teams over apartments who hire 1641 01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:52,760 Speaker 1: maintenance men and foreign contractors who do work on their properties. 1642 01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:54,479 Speaker 1: And he says, you want to get the first names 1643 01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,200 Speaker 1: or no names of the contractors. The contractors have white fans, 1644 01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:00,920 Speaker 1: but there are no names or company on the vans 1645 01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:03,120 Speaker 1: to refer them to it. And he says, what policies 1646 01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:07,320 Speaker 1: that people do, what people should do about this, So 1647 01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:11,040 Speaker 1: there should be some more transparency on these people who 1648 01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,759 Speaker 1: the people will only have limited information on who people 1649 01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:17,080 Speaker 1: can demand to get more information these people who live 1650 01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:20,599 Speaker 1: and work around the communities. He says, thanks to the answers. 1651 01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:23,000 Speaker 1: So I guess he's saying that some of those people 1652 01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:26,559 Speaker 1: may be or or people pretending to be like those 1653 01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:31,519 Speaker 1: contractors maybe involved in you know, abducting some of sisters 1654 01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,160 Speaker 1: your thoughts, so. 1655 01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:38,320 Speaker 7: You know, yeah, that is I mean, there's so many 1656 01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:42,240 Speaker 7: areas of these things, brother call and family, and again 1657 01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:46,000 Speaker 7: it's really on us to become more organized. And as 1658 01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:50,280 Speaker 7: Sisterkin mentioned earlier, this is really going to be something 1659 01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:53,400 Speaker 7: that we have to address. We cannot depend on other people. 1660 01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:57,439 Speaker 7: So yes, there should be better monitoring, there should be 1661 01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:02,760 Speaker 7: more capability to document. And but again, when do we 1662 01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:08,080 Speaker 7: not know and understand what bober Neely Fuller and our 1663 01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:11,800 Speaker 7: great ancestor, doctor franc Christus and said, if you do 1664 01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:17,160 Speaker 7: not understand the system of white supremacy, everything else will 1665 01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:20,360 Speaker 7: only confuse you. So at this stage of the game, 1666 01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:25,680 Speaker 7: if we don't understand overstand that this system is not 1667 01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:29,960 Speaker 7: designed or interested in really helping us be on a 1668 01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:33,360 Speaker 7: certain point, when do we not get that? Barbara I 1669 01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:37,200 Speaker 7: love doctor Barbara Sissmore. I play her video often now 1670 01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:41,760 Speaker 7: where she says Black people still don't get it, and 1671 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,439 Speaker 7: we still don't get it. We still think that these 1672 01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:50,080 Speaker 7: agencies and others is going to really help us. What 1673 01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:54,600 Speaker 7: when will we break this psychosis? And so again we 1674 01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:58,360 Speaker 7: have been taught for decades due for self and I'm 1675 01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:02,320 Speaker 7: not saying don't do things with others or whatever, but 1676 01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:05,559 Speaker 7: to the degree that we're still depending on them like that, 1677 01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:09,360 Speaker 7: it is just not it's not intelligent, and it's definitely 1678 01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:13,479 Speaker 7: not beneficial. So again, what we're saying and doing is 1679 01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:16,800 Speaker 7: organizing in such a way. Again, big up to my 1680 01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:21,840 Speaker 7: brother Kofe in Texas. The National Black United Front continues 1681 01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:26,640 Speaker 7: to inspire me because over the decades they have remained 1682 01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:31,040 Speaker 7: self determined and consistent and so forth. So we are 1683 01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:34,920 Speaker 7: in that arena. We come from those loings, from those 1684 01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:39,519 Speaker 7: kinds of thought processes. With that said, brother Malcolm taught us. 1685 01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:42,519 Speaker 7: And by the way, we're saving Baba Pete A Peter 1686 01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:44,200 Speaker 7: Bailey at the end of the month, tell you about 1687 01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:48,200 Speaker 7: decause he's yawning. He's supporting us. Baba A. Peter Bailey 1688 01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:53,320 Speaker 7: and Macraft and Willie Ricks, their elders are supporting what 1689 01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:57,000 Speaker 7: we're saying. So we're hoping that will now encourage others. 1690 01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:00,320 Speaker 7: We're doing a fundraising there right outside of DC at 1691 01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:03,439 Speaker 7: the end of the month to pay tribute to them, 1692 01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,639 Speaker 7: which is their eighty eighth birthday and eighty third birthday. 1693 01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:11,360 Speaker 7: But they're supporting our fundraiser and campaign so that we can. 1694 01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:11,920 Speaker 6: Do this work. 1695 01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:13,360 Speaker 5: But I digress. 1696 01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:17,280 Speaker 7: The point again is this, we are formulating in our 1697 01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:23,200 Speaker 7: communities nationwide what we call Black Communities United, kind of 1698 01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:27,200 Speaker 7: an off spin from Black United Front, but again Black 1699 01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:32,040 Speaker 7: Communities United, so that the groups and organizations after these 1700 01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:36,840 Speaker 7: institutions in our communities can be on a similar or 1701 01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:40,040 Speaker 7: certain page when it comes to certain issues. This is 1702 01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:44,720 Speaker 7: organizing this way, as the brother said, you have a 1703 01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:49,160 Speaker 7: body within the community that certain issues can be brought 1704 01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:54,160 Speaker 7: to and then action can be implemented based on the 1705 01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:59,160 Speaker 7: members of this collective in your community. So it's not 1706 01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:02,439 Speaker 7: just going to the so called officials. You have a 1707 01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:06,040 Speaker 7: direct action, boots on the ground team in your community. 1708 01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:09,599 Speaker 7: This is what we're implementing here in Philly on beginning 1709 01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:10,559 Speaker 7: on March the first. 1710 01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,680 Speaker 1: All right, sister, how can folks get in touch with 1711 01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:15,320 Speaker 1: you if they want to join your crusade? 1712 01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:19,479 Speaker 7: Okay, well it's it's I want to call it crize, 1713 01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:22,600 Speaker 7: but it's deufinitly a mission. And Brother Caaul, thank you 1714 01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:26,439 Speaker 7: again for always allowing us to share the information. But again, 1715 01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:30,080 Speaker 7: we'll be in in the DC area the last weekend 1716 01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:33,639 Speaker 7: UH of this month back just three months. I can 1717 01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:37,679 Speaker 7: be reached directly text please at two sixty seven six 1718 01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:41,519 Speaker 7: three six three eight zero two again two sixty seven 1719 01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:45,360 Speaker 7: six three six three eight zero two, or you can 1720 01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:51,280 Speaker 7: email us at National m WM at aol dot com. 1721 01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:57,080 Speaker 7: Again National m WM at aol dot com. And then 1722 01:37:57,120 --> 01:38:05,400 Speaker 7: also our Gmail is a m b w R forever 1723 01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:09,719 Speaker 7: the letter forever at gmail dot com. And again that's 1724 01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:15,439 Speaker 7: a mb WR the letter I mean the number four 1725 01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:18,880 Speaker 7: ever at gmail dot com and that stands for a 1726 01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:23,599 Speaker 7: Million Black Women Rising. We're working on developing our own app. 1727 01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:28,160 Speaker 7: So again, our fundraising now is very important because we're 1728 01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:32,280 Speaker 7: not depending on grants and corporate sponsoring. We're getting ready 1729 01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:35,360 Speaker 7: to produce our own app so that anyone who wants 1730 01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:39,559 Speaker 7: to download our app nationwide will be able to do so, 1731 01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:42,639 Speaker 7: and they will get the alerts when we get them. 1732 01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:46,240 Speaker 7: They will get whatever information as we get it, and 1733 01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:50,000 Speaker 7: dealing with this issue of missing, kidnapped Black women and 1734 01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:54,080 Speaker 7: girls nationwide. So that's the start that stays one. There's 1735 01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:57,320 Speaker 7: other parts and we're going to be doing training so 1736 01:38:57,360 --> 01:39:03,040 Speaker 7: that folks can become ultimately certified as Black women and girls. Advocates, 1737 01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:07,120 Speaker 7: so that again in our communities we have a liaison, 1738 01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:13,400 Speaker 7: a person who is qualified, trained and black mentally and 1739 01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:18,439 Speaker 7: spiritually not just physically, who can represent what we're talking 1740 01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:20,400 Speaker 7: about and get results. 1741 01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,240 Speaker 1: All right, all sche to that. Thank you, sister Philli, 1742 01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,680 Speaker 1: and thank you for doing what you do because you know, 1743 01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:27,720 Speaker 1: again it's not getting a lot of attention of what 1744 01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:30,760 Speaker 1: you guys have made a cornerstone of your mission, as 1745 01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,440 Speaker 1: you mentioned, so thank you for doing that for us. 1746 01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:37,040 Speaker 7: Absolutely, and again, brother Carl, hopefully you'll come out. We'll 1747 01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:42,360 Speaker 7: be at the Oh Everlasting Life Restaurant to pay tribute 1748 01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:46,759 Speaker 7: to our elders, our freedom fighting and pan Afghanist elders, 1749 01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:51,840 Speaker 7: Willie Rix also known as Lukasa Da Da and of 1750 01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:55,240 Speaker 7: course a Peter Bailey, who of course was one of 1751 01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:58,880 Speaker 7: the co founders of Brother Malcolm Excess organization. We're paying 1752 01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:02,599 Speaker 7: tribute to them work and they're also supporting us, so 1753 01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:08,840 Speaker 7: please contact us for tickets and support our work, all right. 1754 01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:11,360 Speaker 1: And they deserve it too, they're on this program quite 1755 01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:12,639 Speaker 1: a bit, so thank you, sister File. 1756 01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:14,639 Speaker 6: All right, all. 1757 01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:17,080 Speaker 1: Right, family, ten if to tough. I forgot to mention 1758 01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:20,920 Speaker 1: that maybe Staples won two Grammys last night. Then, so 1759 01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:23,920 Speaker 1: congratulations to Mayvie Stables. She won two Grammys last night. 1760 01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:26,080 Speaker 1: Brial Sideki's on deck. We'll get to a moment hell, 1761 01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:27,559 Speaker 1: but first you got to check with Kevin because we 1762 01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,040 Speaker 1: talked about, you know, today being the second day of February. 1763 01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:35,040 Speaker 1: Buckxicont to pit Phil. What's he seeing? Kevin is winner 1764 01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:36,839 Speaker 1: gonna be over real soon? He's been cold? 1765 01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:41,519 Speaker 2: Well god well called. The reports are in that at 1766 01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:45,559 Speaker 2: seven twenty a m. The most famous groundhog in the world, 1767 01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:50,799 Speaker 2: at Gobbler's Knob in Pennsylvania, made his prediction of the weather, 1768 01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:56,040 Speaker 2: and yes, Bucks of donny Field saw his shadow at 1769 01:40:56,320 --> 01:41:01,559 Speaker 2: seven twenty five, indicating six more weeks of winter. 1770 01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:04,640 Speaker 3: Yes, sir Eboddy. 1771 01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:11,439 Speaker 2: Now, the the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration denies any 1772 01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:16,360 Speaker 2: correlation between a shadow and the weather, so therefore there 1773 01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:21,360 Speaker 2: is still that conspiracy. But as right now Parkstani Phil 1774 01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:23,839 Speaker 2: has confirmed there'll be six more weeks. 1775 01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:27,439 Speaker 3: Yep, yes, sir, there you go straight from here. 1776 01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:32,080 Speaker 1: To pass on the new It's been cold, but let's 1777 01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:34,759 Speaker 1: go add to brother Sadeka Bakar. He's down in southern California, 1778 01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:38,000 Speaker 1: where's little warming. Some people sunbathing there in southern California. 1779 01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:41,120 Speaker 1: Brother Sidiki grand Rising, welcome back to the program. 1780 01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:42,720 Speaker 16: How are you? 1781 01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:45,640 Speaker 1: There's still learning? Just learn there was gonna be the 1782 01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:48,519 Speaker 1: winter's gonna stretch out for a few more weeks. That 1783 01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:50,479 Speaker 1: was a pleasant thing you want to hear this morning. 1784 01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:54,040 Speaker 1: But yes, that's how we are. They probably gonna say 1785 01:41:54,040 --> 01:42:00,800 Speaker 1: that's why I live in LA right, brother, Yeah, help 1786 01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:06,800 Speaker 1: us out here. Artificial intelligence AI? You know, is it 1787 01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,640 Speaker 1: an algorithm? Or we're in a digital prison? Because it 1788 01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:12,360 Speaker 1: seems like everything we talk about now it's digital. We're 1789 01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:15,320 Speaker 1: in the digital area, and some people to embrace it, 1790 01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:18,080 Speaker 1: some people are fighting against it. It seems like they're 1791 01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:20,840 Speaker 1: fighting and losing battle. Shoot, what are your thoughts? Should 1792 01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:23,680 Speaker 1: we embrace it? Or should we get ahead of it 1793 01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:26,200 Speaker 1: or get involved with or should we just you know, 1794 01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:28,519 Speaker 1: just look at it the scan? So how do you see? 1795 01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:33,400 Speaker 13: Okay, So before we go in full on that the 1796 01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:36,599 Speaker 13: sister you just had on your guests, she is one 1797 01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:42,200 Speaker 13: thousand percent correct in regards to child sex trafficking and 1798 01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:46,640 Speaker 13: what's happening in the many tentacles that's part of the 1799 01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:49,280 Speaker 13: child sex trafficking rings and things of that nature. And 1800 01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:51,200 Speaker 13: what I would like to add is is just not 1801 01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,840 Speaker 13: happening in Silly or Washington, DC, or New York or 1802 01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:58,919 Speaker 13: Atlanta or LA or Houston or San Francisco. It's happening 1803 01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:02,000 Speaker 13: all over the world world, and people need to understand 1804 01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:11,880 Speaker 13: that from a standpoint of black babies, women, black girls, boys, women, men, 1805 01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:16,000 Speaker 13: this is happening all over the world, right, And it's 1806 01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:19,679 Speaker 13: happening through child protective services. It's happening through daycare centers, 1807 01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:23,519 Speaker 13: it's happening through elementary schools. These are the portals for 1808 01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:27,080 Speaker 13: these children that's being trafficked, all right, as well as 1809 01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:30,719 Speaker 13: what's taking place the move the music, the movie industry 1810 01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:34,360 Speaker 13: was mentioned, the entertainment industry in general, all of it 1811 01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:37,200 Speaker 13: is part of this child sex trafficking ring. Politics, the 1812 01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:40,280 Speaker 13: political system is part of this child sex trafficking ring. 1813 01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:43,680 Speaker 13: So it doesn't matter whether you're Democrat or Republican. They 1814 01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:46,880 Speaker 13: are part of these child sex trafficking rings. All right. 1815 01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, before you go, so what's the endgame? Why? Why? 1816 01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:58,360 Speaker 1: Why are women and children? 1817 01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:05,160 Speaker 13: Well, it's okay, this is part of the ritualistic aspect 1818 01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:10,240 Speaker 13: of how this government, well the government that people don't 1819 01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:13,800 Speaker 13: understand is really the government and those type of things 1820 01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:17,120 Speaker 13: bloodlines and things of that nature, that it's part of 1821 01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:20,840 Speaker 13: their rituals and things that's necessary in order for them 1822 01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,240 Speaker 13: to do the things that they do. So now you 1823 01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:26,280 Speaker 13: start talking about magic, you start talking about spells, you 1824 01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:29,920 Speaker 13: start talking about wizardry, you start talking about demonism and 1825 01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:34,840 Speaker 13: satanism and all these different things. That's part of these rituals. Blood, right, 1826 01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:38,240 Speaker 13: children's blood is a major part of these rituals. And 1827 01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:39,880 Speaker 13: I'm gonna stop there because I don't want to get 1828 01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:44,160 Speaker 13: too graphic when you start getting into the sexual side 1829 01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:47,160 Speaker 13: of things and what that means and why children are 1830 01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:51,519 Speaker 13: so important in this process. All right, So it's a 1831 01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:54,839 Speaker 13: lot that's going on behind the curtains that people aren't 1832 01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:59,599 Speaker 13: really paying attention to, and children, especially black children, are 1833 01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:04,960 Speaker 13: a major part of that process. Right, And not only that. 1834 01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:09,559 Speaker 13: Police terrorism, This is a major issue that we have 1835 01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:12,439 Speaker 13: as a people. I did the research from two thousand 1836 01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:16,320 Speaker 13: up to date in regards to police terrorism. The black 1837 01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:22,320 Speaker 13: men and women, mainly black men, that have been terrorized, murdered, 1838 01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:26,160 Speaker 13: so on and so forth. In regards to police departments 1839 01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:29,280 Speaker 13: all over the United States. This is a major issue. 1840 01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:33,960 Speaker 13: But we're more focused on immigrants, so called immigrants. Trump 1841 01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:36,679 Speaker 13: and all these other things. When these things have been 1842 01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:45,120 Speaker 13: happening president after president after president after president, it's astounding, Carl. 1843 01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:50,439 Speaker 13: The list is astounding. Even for someone like myself who 1844 01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:54,360 Speaker 13: have worked dealing with organizations and dealing with quote unquote 1845 01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:57,479 Speaker 13: victims and the families of police terrorism and things of 1846 01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:01,880 Speaker 13: that nature, it is overwhelming. The number of brothers and 1847 01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:05,760 Speaker 13: sisters that have been murdered by police in these many 1848 01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:08,880 Speaker 13: different cities all over the United States. These are two 1849 01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:13,120 Speaker 13: major issues that we are really having that for some reason, 1850 01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:15,880 Speaker 13: what I do understand, we refuse to really deal with 1851 01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:19,759 Speaker 13: those issues as a people. It's the hate that hate produced, 1852 01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:24,360 Speaker 13: and that produces self hate. I hate in oneself, so 1853 01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:26,360 Speaker 13: we want to deal with everybody else and what they 1854 01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:29,519 Speaker 13: got going on, as opposed to dealing with ourselves and 1855 01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:32,320 Speaker 13: what we got going on. So I just want to 1856 01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:32,640 Speaker 13: get it. 1857 01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:34,840 Speaker 16: And why say that again? 1858 01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:39,759 Speaker 13: And as we've talked about on your show many times, 1859 01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:43,639 Speaker 13: that has to do with programming, right, whether we deal 1860 01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:47,360 Speaker 13: with it from the standpoint of psychological operations, is many 1861 01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:50,560 Speaker 13: different types of programming that we can talk about or 1862 01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:56,240 Speaker 13: mind control. When you start dealing with predictive programming, emotional hijacking, 1863 01:46:56,280 --> 01:47:01,320 Speaker 13: trauma scripting. I mentioned psychological operations, the science of distraction, 1864 01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:07,560 Speaker 13: problem reaction solution or Hagelian dialectics, double speak, cognitive dissonance, 1865 01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:12,360 Speaker 13: fear based and trauma based programming, triggered trauma type of programming, 1866 01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:14,960 Speaker 13: and the stimuli that comes with that, new wage programming, 1867 01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:19,479 Speaker 13: victim consciousness, charismatics, when you deal with the political realm 1868 01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:22,160 Speaker 13: and things of that nature, Stockholm syndrome and like. I 1869 01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:24,479 Speaker 13: can go on and on and on with the different 1870 01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:28,240 Speaker 13: types of programming, but the bottom line is there is 1871 01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:33,439 Speaker 13: a manipulation that's taking place in our systems on every 1872 01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:34,599 Speaker 13: hold up thought. 1873 01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:35,960 Speaker 1: Right there, we gotta step aside for a few minutes 1874 01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:37,879 Speaker 1: and we come back. Got a tweet question about Epstein. 1875 01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:41,519 Speaker 1: It's just all because Epstein. They've been said that for 1876 01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:44,400 Speaker 1: these revelations that came out of there, they don't want 1877 01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:48,080 Speaker 1: any in girls. At least we're taking advantage of it. 1878 01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:51,360 Speaker 1: Is this a distraction? Should we be concerned? Is this 1879 01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:54,639 Speaker 1: part of what you're talking about as well? Seventeen minutes 1880 01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:57,679 Speaker 1: at the top of our family, I guess there's a 1881 01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:01,600 Speaker 1: futuristic researcher. Brother Sadeka Bakari ain't in how we've been manipulated. 1882 01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:03,240 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? You can get in on this 1883 01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:05,360 Speaker 1: conversation with brother Sadeki. All you have to do is 1884 01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:07,680 Speaker 1: reach out to us at the eight hundred four five 1885 01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:10,519 Speaker 1: zero is seventy eight seventy six and we'll take you 1886 01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:13,360 Speaker 1: phone calls next and grand Rising family, thanks for starting 1887 01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:15,200 Speaker 1: your week with us. At twenty one minutes after the 1888 01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,680 Speaker 1: top of there, with our guess that futuristic researcher, brother 1889 01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:21,080 Speaker 1: Sadeka Bakari says, we've been programmed, We've been controlled, and 1890 01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:23,400 Speaker 1: a tweeter wanted to know if this whole thing with 1891 01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:27,080 Speaker 1: the Epstein files is this part of the control? Our 1892 01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:31,840 Speaker 1: focus should be on something else your thoughts, So. 1893 01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:34,639 Speaker 13: Let's look at the Epstein files. So, first of all, 1894 01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:40,960 Speaker 13: when we talk about programming or a psychological operation, there's 1895 01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:46,200 Speaker 13: levels to it. Now. First of all, the psychological operation 1896 01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:52,599 Speaker 13: can only work or operate based on the participation of 1897 01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:57,360 Speaker 13: the people. That's part of the psychological operation. So I 1898 01:48:57,400 --> 01:49:00,360 Speaker 13: hope I made that as clear as possible. We look 1899 01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:03,519 Speaker 13: after Fstein files first and foremost, where are they coming from? 1900 01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:08,400 Speaker 13: That's the first question people should ask now in saying that, 1901 01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:15,600 Speaker 13: is that source a reliable source? So from my understanding 1902 01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:21,000 Speaker 13: their FBI files, is that correct, FBI? So if that 1903 01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:25,320 Speaker 13: is correct, so now everyone's giving credence to the FBI. 1904 01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:30,120 Speaker 13: The FBI is credible. Now that's something to think about now. 1905 01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:32,840 Speaker 13: In regards to what we're seeing in some of these 1906 01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:36,040 Speaker 13: files redacted, we have to keep that in mind as well. 1907 01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:42,160 Speaker 13: They're redacted, so you're not seeing everything that's in those files. Also, 1908 01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:47,639 Speaker 13: the things that we've been shown, well, none of these 1909 01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:52,240 Speaker 13: things are new. You just had a guest on talking 1910 01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:57,560 Speaker 13: about child sex trafficking, which obviously is talking about pedophilia, 1911 01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:00,519 Speaker 13: which is obviously some of the things that people see 1912 01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:06,160 Speaker 13: in those files or alluding to those things in those files. 1913 01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:10,280 Speaker 13: We've been talking about this for thirty years. I have 1914 01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:13,880 Speaker 13: teachers that's been talking about this longer than thirty years, obviously, 1915 01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:17,679 Speaker 13: so this is nothing new. When we deal with again 1916 01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:22,720 Speaker 13: the music industry or entertainment industry in general, Hollywood, right, Holliswood, 1917 01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:24,680 Speaker 13: what they used to do the spells with back in 1918 01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:29,639 Speaker 13: the day, Hollis Wood, hence the name Hollywood Magic, ritual, sigil, 1919 01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:33,320 Speaker 13: all those different types of things. So all this is 1920 01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:37,800 Speaker 13: part of what people are seeing in those files. They're 1921 01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:44,720 Speaker 13: simply seeing the culture that's always been the culture. Some 1922 01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:49,759 Speaker 13: people listen all these decades, some people didn't. Some people 1923 01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:53,760 Speaker 13: continue to be fans, whereas some people really dealt with 1924 01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:57,280 Speaker 13: the knowledge and the information that understood what's been taking 1925 01:50:57,320 --> 01:51:01,439 Speaker 13: place from their own consciousness, as well as dealing with 1926 01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:05,400 Speaker 13: the master teachers and people who really did that research 1927 01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:08,679 Speaker 13: and did the science on the things that's been happening. 1928 01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:12,640 Speaker 13: So is it a distraction, Well, obviously yes, it's going 1929 01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:15,559 Speaker 13: to be a distraction to people who have absolutely no 1930 01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:18,160 Speaker 13: idea of what's really going on in the world. To 1931 01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:21,360 Speaker 13: begin with, most of what you see in the media 1932 01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:25,720 Speaker 13: or put out by the government is intentionally used for 1933 01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:31,720 Speaker 13: purposes of mind control, purposes of media manipulation, purposes of 1934 01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:36,960 Speaker 13: a psychological operation, purposes of to trigger fear and trauma, 1935 01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:41,160 Speaker 13: purposes of trauma based programming, fear based programming, and the 1936 01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:44,400 Speaker 13: many other forms of programming that I already laid out. 1937 01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:47,240 Speaker 13: All you have to do is look at what's going 1938 01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:56,639 Speaker 13: on on social media. You'll understand what the psychological operation is. 1939 01:51:57,800 --> 01:51:59,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're breaking down with some folks. You're hearing you 1940 01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:01,840 Speaker 1: for the firstein brother said, they give the siam since 1941 01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:03,799 Speaker 1: you just talked about it, explain how that works. 1942 01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:08,519 Speaker 13: Okay, So a psychological operation, this is a government operation. 1943 01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:10,960 Speaker 13: Every time I come on here, regardless of what I'm 1944 01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:13,040 Speaker 13: talking about, I make it clear to you that the 1945 01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:16,519 Speaker 13: war is on and for your mind. Period. I don't 1946 01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:18,400 Speaker 13: care if we're talking about AI. I don't care if 1947 01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:20,479 Speaker 13: we're talking about politics. I don't care if we're talking 1948 01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:24,519 Speaker 13: about the educational system. It doesn't matter what we're talking about. 1949 01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:28,559 Speaker 13: The war is on and for your mind. So when 1950 01:52:28,640 --> 01:52:34,519 Speaker 13: you deal with psychological operations and military warfare, government, because 1951 01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:37,400 Speaker 13: all of those things are the same thing. The media, 1952 01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:41,639 Speaker 13: all of those things are the same thing, Fox, CNBC, SEENN. 1953 01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:47,640 Speaker 13: They're all part of the conglomerate to create these psychological operations. 1954 01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:51,959 Speaker 13: Basically their mind control techniques. That's what a psychological operation 1955 01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:59,200 Speaker 13: is to again control you, all right, based on your thinking. 1956 01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:03,200 Speaker 13: If they can control your thinking, they control your speaking. 1957 01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:06,919 Speaker 13: If they control your thinking and your speaking, they control 1958 01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:11,120 Speaker 13: your actions. This is why people every four years think 1959 01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:13,720 Speaker 13: that people are going to vote, and that's going to 1960 01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:20,040 Speaker 13: change our situation in our dynamic. All right. So psychological 1961 01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:26,080 Speaker 13: operation persuade, change, influence. Three key words, persuade the way 1962 01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:32,720 Speaker 13: you think, change the way you think, influence the way 1963 01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:38,360 Speaker 13: you think, all right, which also means they're controlling your emotions. 1964 01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:42,040 Speaker 13: They're controlling your hormones. They're controlling your subconscious mind. They're 1965 01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:45,200 Speaker 13: controlling your central nervous system. They're controlling your olympic system. 1966 01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:50,200 Speaker 13: They're controlling your amigdo loah, They're controlling your vagus nerve. 1967 01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:53,920 Speaker 13: They're controlling all these things that need to be regulated 1968 01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:58,360 Speaker 13: in order for you to operate in your humanity and 1969 01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:05,080 Speaker 13: your divinity. So they use information to influence you, audiences, 1970 01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:09,880 Speaker 13: things of that nature. They program your emotions, starts, reasoning, behavior, etc. 1971 01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:15,200 Speaker 13: It's done through politics, religion, media, images, video, and many 1972 01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:19,559 Speaker 13: other ways. Rituals. As I've mentioned, all of these things 1973 01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:23,439 Speaker 13: are used, all right. So again it's to create and 1974 01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:30,559 Speaker 13: establish fear, trauma, and paranoia, which is in alignment, which 1975 01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:36,680 Speaker 13: you're amig do lot. So they understand your body and 1976 01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:41,000 Speaker 13: how your body operates, and how to get reactions out 1977 01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:43,520 Speaker 13: of you, and they know what those reactions are going 1978 01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:46,960 Speaker 13: to be. This is the predictive programming. Based on them 1979 01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:50,040 Speaker 13: programming you. They know how you're going to respond. You're 1980 01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:54,480 Speaker 13: going to complain. They already know that you're going to say, Oh, 1981 01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:58,720 Speaker 13: let's do more voter registration. They already understand that. They 1982 01:54:58,760 --> 01:55:03,400 Speaker 13: already understand, let's go do rallies and protests because you 1983 01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:06,520 Speaker 13: have to get permission from them, So they already understand 1984 01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:10,280 Speaker 13: that you're going to do these things. So that takes 1985 01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:15,720 Speaker 13: us into problem reaction solution or the Hegelian dialectic. But 1986 01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:20,480 Speaker 13: simply it's problem reaction solution. They create a problem, they 1987 01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:24,200 Speaker 13: know based on the problem that they created, what your 1988 01:55:24,240 --> 01:55:28,840 Speaker 13: reaction will be to the problem that they created, and 1989 01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:31,360 Speaker 13: then they're going to give you a solution to the 1990 01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:35,320 Speaker 13: problem that they created and the reaction that they created 1991 01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:40,360 Speaker 13: from you as a mass of people. That's problem reaction solution, 1992 01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:43,520 Speaker 13: and a rabbit hole gets deeper and deeper and deeper. 1993 01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:46,760 Speaker 13: But in a nutshell, that's what we're talking about. So 1994 01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:51,320 Speaker 13: the more you engage with television, the more you're going 1995 01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:54,520 Speaker 13: to be programmed, the more you engage with social media. 1996 01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:58,120 Speaker 13: In most cases, you're going to be programmed. Unless you 1997 01:55:58,240 --> 01:56:03,920 Speaker 13: understand these things, you're programmed. And even if you understand 1998 01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:07,600 Speaker 13: these things, you're still programmed if you're not doing the 1999 01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:10,640 Speaker 13: work to make sure that you stay deprogrammed and you 2000 01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:15,160 Speaker 13: continue to reprogram That's how it works. This is what 2001 01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:18,160 Speaker 13: I do every day. I help people to deprogram and 2002 01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:19,280 Speaker 13: reprogram themselves. 2003 01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:22,320 Speaker 1: Well, let me jump in at thirty minutes south of toughly. 2004 01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:25,960 Speaker 1: So what's the endgame though? What are they programming us for? 2005 01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:29,600 Speaker 1: Is it all just all about control? Controlling how we think, 2006 01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:32,280 Speaker 1: what we do, what we watch, what we wear. Is 2007 01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:34,480 Speaker 1: that is that the endgame? 2008 01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:41,880 Speaker 13: Primarily? Yes, that is the game, absolutely, to control people, 2009 01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:45,920 Speaker 13: to keep people in fear, to keep people paranoid, to 2010 01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:49,680 Speaker 13: keep people triggered by trauma, again, to control their minds. 2011 01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:54,280 Speaker 13: The wars on and for our minds, and again, people 2012 01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:56,880 Speaker 13: need to understand war has been declared. 2013 01:56:56,440 --> 01:56:57,120 Speaker 16: On the people. 2014 01:56:57,400 --> 01:57:01,640 Speaker 13: You who's listening, war has been declared on you. We 2015 01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:05,600 Speaker 13: need to understand that war has been declared. We can 2016 01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:08,800 Speaker 13: talk about what's going on internationally or whatever is going on, 2017 01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:11,800 Speaker 13: but understand, war has been declared on you right here, 2018 01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:16,800 Speaker 13: right here, in so called America, the corporation called America, 2019 01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:20,440 Speaker 13: right here. War has been declared in every facet. 2020 01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:23,280 Speaker 1: Now let me jump in and ask you this, is 2021 01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:26,440 Speaker 1: it been clared a ward to being declared against us 2022 01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:30,600 Speaker 1: or all of America, or just poor America, or just 2023 01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:32,960 Speaker 1: Hispanic America or just black America. 2024 01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:38,080 Speaker 13: Yeah, all of America, but mainly US. Let's make it clear, 2025 01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:42,200 Speaker 13: mainly US. So let's have a conversation. For some reason, 2026 01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:48,120 Speaker 13: black people don't understand, based on nature, we are considered 2027 01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:55,560 Speaker 13: the enemy of white people, period. Look at history. This 2028 01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:59,400 Speaker 13: is just what it is. Everything that we are they 2029 01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:02,400 Speaker 13: want to be. The jealousy, the envy, the hate, all 2030 01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:04,880 Speaker 13: of that stems from that, outside of them being psychopathic, 2031 01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:08,120 Speaker 13: of course, but this is what stems outside of that. 2032 01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:11,920 Speaker 13: It's the reason other people have gotten reparations, but black people, 2033 01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:18,920 Speaker 13: quote unquote black people have not. These are facts. Why 2034 01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:21,760 Speaker 13: haven't black people got quote unquote, quote unquote black people 2035 01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:25,600 Speaker 13: got reparations to These are all factors that people don't 2036 01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:28,480 Speaker 13: think about. Why when we talk about quote unquote racism 2037 01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:31,959 Speaker 13: and discrimination and all these different things, usually we're talking. 2038 01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:33,160 Speaker 16: About black people. Why is that? 2039 01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:37,040 Speaker 13: Why is that when we talk about police terrorism? And 2040 01:58:37,120 --> 01:58:39,960 Speaker 13: I've done the research, so just so everyone who's who's 2041 01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:44,480 Speaker 13: listening understands, I've done the research. I know what those 2042 01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:48,320 Speaker 13: numbers look like. I have the names, I have the cities, 2043 01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:51,880 Speaker 13: I have all that information, the year, the day, the month, 2044 01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:56,080 Speaker 13: all of that. I have that information. And again, the 2045 01:58:56,160 --> 01:59:03,600 Speaker 13: numbers are overwhelming that those numbers, it's not close those numbers. 2046 01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:06,760 Speaker 13: No one else the numbers you can't compare to any 2047 01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:12,280 Speaker 13: other group of people. Why is that so when we 2048 01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:15,840 Speaker 13: talk about us, it's different than talking about anybody else. 2049 01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:19,120 Speaker 13: Stop lumping us with everybody else. Don't lump us with 2050 01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:23,000 Speaker 13: LGBTQO one, two, three, four, don't lump us with whatever 2051 01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:25,800 Speaker 13: other groups that you can think of that's considered so 2052 01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:29,280 Speaker 13: called minorities. Don't lump us with them. We are an anomaly. 2053 01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:32,680 Speaker 13: We are an anomaly where we talk about these things 2054 01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:35,360 Speaker 13: when I'm not talking about from a standpoint of being 2055 01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:40,879 Speaker 13: a victim of victimization. These are the facts, period. 2056 01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:43,760 Speaker 1: So as you see there twining it away from the 2057 01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:46,120 Speaker 1: top of the reparations off the table. Will never get 2058 01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:48,800 Speaker 1: reparations that we are you're trying to tell us, brother Sidiki. 2059 01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:53,120 Speaker 13: I can't say that it would never be in in 2060 01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:56,240 Speaker 13: white people interests or the government interest to give us reparations. 2061 01:59:56,840 --> 01:59:58,600 Speaker 13: And even if they did, it would be a plan 2062 01:59:58,720 --> 02:00:02,760 Speaker 13: behind it, guarantee. He just like integration and desegregation, if 2063 02:00:02,760 --> 02:00:05,200 Speaker 13: people really break down the history and understand the history 2064 02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:09,880 Speaker 13: that was a play. We still don't understand that they 2065 02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:13,320 Speaker 13: knew that would strip us of self relying, self determination, 2066 02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:16,960 Speaker 13: self sufficiency, all the things that we were already doing. 2067 02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:24,920 Speaker 13: And again that's never to discredit what our ancestors did 2068 02:00:25,040 --> 02:00:28,960 Speaker 13: at that time. They did what they felt was necessary, 2069 02:00:29,320 --> 02:00:32,840 Speaker 13: So that's not to demean them or discredit them. At 2070 02:00:32,920 --> 02:00:36,160 Speaker 13: least they took action. All right, we need to deal 2071 02:00:36,200 --> 02:00:39,560 Speaker 13: with that today. And why folks aren't taking action? It's 2072 02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:43,360 Speaker 13: too much damn complaining. There's too much we victims. It's 2073 02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:45,880 Speaker 13: too much begging the system. It's too much of all 2074 02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:50,520 Speaker 13: of that, expecting the Democratic Party like they gonna save 2075 02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:53,040 Speaker 13: us a free us or whatever is going on in 2076 02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:56,400 Speaker 13: people heads? All right, tom the. 2077 02:00:56,400 --> 02:01:01,040 Speaker 1: Way this so how how does that j ivery? What's 2078 02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:04,120 Speaker 1: going on now with this current administration wants to roll 2079 02:01:04,200 --> 02:01:07,080 Speaker 1: back the times and two back and I guess the 2080 02:01:07,480 --> 02:01:10,240 Speaker 1: Jim Crow two point zero? Some people are calling it 2081 02:01:10,280 --> 02:01:11,960 Speaker 1: is that a good thing for us or a bad thing? 2082 02:01:11,960 --> 02:01:13,160 Speaker 1: How should we review that? Then? 2083 02:01:14,160 --> 02:01:17,920 Speaker 13: It never left? See this is what I mean by 2084 02:01:17,960 --> 02:01:21,720 Speaker 13: mind control. It's a lot of illusions out here. People 2085 02:01:21,760 --> 02:01:24,560 Speaker 13: think they're dealing with reality and they dealing with illusions. 2086 02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:29,560 Speaker 13: Racism quote unquote, racism never ended. It just looked different 2087 02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:31,560 Speaker 13: and This is the same thing when you look at 2088 02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:36,879 Speaker 13: the presidency, people look at Barack Obama versus looking at Trump. Okay, 2089 02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:42,760 Speaker 13: how does that change anything for black people? 2090 02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:43,280 Speaker 16: It didn't. 2091 02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:48,120 Speaker 13: Barack Obama didn't talk about police rorism. Barack Obama didn't 2092 02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:52,160 Speaker 13: talk about child sex trafficking, nor is Trump going to 2093 02:01:52,160 --> 02:01:56,160 Speaker 13: talk about it. Nor did any other Democratic or Republican 2094 02:01:56,200 --> 02:02:02,880 Speaker 13: president talk about these things issues that affect us. This 2095 02:02:02,920 --> 02:02:06,880 Speaker 13: is programming, all. 2096 02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:09,800 Speaker 1: Right, we'll buy that twenty five way from the top, Esson, 2097 02:02:09,840 --> 02:02:10,480 Speaker 1: what do we do. 2098 02:02:12,360 --> 02:02:16,760 Speaker 13: Deprogramming? Reprogram the one thing that people don't want to 2099 02:02:16,800 --> 02:02:20,800 Speaker 13: have a real conversation about. And I'm talking about the revolutionaries, 2100 02:02:20,840 --> 02:02:24,000 Speaker 13: I'm talking about the activists, I'm talking about the organizers. 2101 02:02:24,080 --> 02:02:28,360 Speaker 13: I'm talking about the healers too, the scholars, the researchers, 2102 02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:32,840 Speaker 13: that's healing. We don't want to have those real conversations 2103 02:02:32,840 --> 02:02:34,800 Speaker 13: and really deal with that. We want to keep doing 2104 02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:38,680 Speaker 13: the same thing over and over again, never healing ourselves. So, 2105 02:02:38,720 --> 02:02:41,200 Speaker 13: as I've stated before, what do we bring in these 2106 02:02:41,280 --> 02:02:44,120 Speaker 13: rooms when we do get together? What do we bring 2107 02:02:44,160 --> 02:02:46,920 Speaker 13: in the room our trauma? What do we bring in 2108 02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:49,560 Speaker 13: the room our fears? What do we bring in the room, 2109 02:02:49,760 --> 02:02:53,320 Speaker 13: our petty jealousies. What do we bring into the room? 2110 02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:57,800 Speaker 13: Env What do we bring in the room self sabotaged? 2111 02:02:57,960 --> 02:03:00,680 Speaker 13: We bring all those things we've never we're worked on 2112 02:03:00,880 --> 02:03:05,480 Speaker 13: within ourselves into this room with other people. So the 2113 02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:09,480 Speaker 13: intention may be authentic, but we bring in all of 2114 02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:14,880 Speaker 13: our crap, our jump, our programming, our self hate into 2115 02:03:14,920 --> 02:03:20,200 Speaker 13: that room and we sabotage it every time. Every time 2116 02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:24,320 Speaker 13: I've been in those rooms, I've dealt with organizations, I've 2117 02:03:24,320 --> 02:03:27,440 Speaker 13: dealt with many different people who's doing many different things. 2118 02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:31,080 Speaker 13: It's the healing part that we don't feel like is imperative, 2119 02:03:31,160 --> 02:03:35,080 Speaker 13: and we need to deal with it's imperative. Yes, we're 2120 02:03:35,120 --> 02:03:38,480 Speaker 13: in a very unique situation. War has been declared on us. 2121 02:03:39,680 --> 02:03:43,240 Speaker 13: We need healing, very unique situation. 2122 02:03:43,840 --> 02:03:46,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, But the problem that many of us are on 2123 02:03:46,640 --> 02:03:48,760 Speaker 1: an illusion of inclusion that we don't think we need 2124 02:03:48,840 --> 02:03:50,920 Speaker 1: or we're comfortable in the spot we're in right now, 2125 02:03:50,960 --> 02:03:54,040 Speaker 1: brother Sadika, so we don't feel like we need to change. 2126 02:03:54,200 --> 02:03:58,200 Speaker 13: That's most definite. People should be grateful Trump is waking 2127 02:03:58,200 --> 02:04:02,800 Speaker 13: them up out of their slumber. Be grateful. He's the 2128 02:04:02,840 --> 02:04:07,320 Speaker 13: one that's telling you exactly what it is. See. But 2129 02:04:07,360 --> 02:04:09,280 Speaker 13: people don't want to face that and deal with that, 2130 02:04:09,320 --> 02:04:11,960 Speaker 13: because that means they got to be responsible. They have 2131 02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:15,480 Speaker 13: to be accountable. That's the problem. People don't want to 2132 02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:19,560 Speaker 13: be responsible and accountable for what position we're in or 2133 02:04:19,600 --> 02:04:23,320 Speaker 13: not in. Even when we get into AI right, people 2134 02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:27,040 Speaker 13: don't want to be responsible and accountable. The job lost 2135 02:04:27,080 --> 02:04:28,680 Speaker 13: and all the things that people are talking about in 2136 02:04:28,720 --> 02:04:31,600 Speaker 13: regards to AI and jobs. Well, why are you defending? 2137 02:04:32,280 --> 02:04:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? Hold, I thought right there, brother side, Ye gotta 2138 02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:35,640 Speaker 1: step aside for a few moments. We need to come back. 2139 02:04:35,680 --> 02:04:38,760 Speaker 1: I'll let you finish your thought and tell us why, family, 2140 02:04:38,920 --> 02:04:41,000 Speaker 1: this is going real deep. What are your thoughts? You 2141 02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:43,720 Speaker 1: got questions for brother Sidiki reach out to us at 2142 02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:47,360 Speaker 1: eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six 2143 02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:50,240 Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls next and grant rising family, 2144 02:04:50,280 --> 02:04:53,120 Speaker 1: thanks for starting your week with us. Eighteen minutes away 2145 02:04:53,120 --> 02:04:56,879 Speaker 1: from the top. They brother Sideki Bacar discussing AI artificial 2146 02:04:56,920 --> 02:04:59,640 Speaker 1: and Intelli us, how it's working some of us on aware, 2147 02:04:59,640 --> 02:05:01,760 Speaker 1: how it's working out and using it on us. This 2148 02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:04,480 Speaker 1: is where the conversation is this morning. Before we go 2149 02:05:04,520 --> 02:05:06,280 Speaker 1: back to then, let me just remind you that Grill 2150 02:05:06,600 --> 02:05:08,880 Speaker 1: Professor James Small woul join us LED this week along 2151 02:05:08,920 --> 02:05:13,000 Speaker 1: with Mark from Anaheim, also with Baltimore's warrior lawyer Jay 2152 02:05:13,040 --> 02:05:14,600 Speaker 1: Wendall Gordon. I all got to be here this week, 2153 02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:16,440 Speaker 1: So if you are in Baltimore, make sure you keep 2154 02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:19,560 Speaker 1: your radio locked and tight on ten ten WLB or 2155 02:05:19,600 --> 02:05:23,520 Speaker 1: friend the dmv R on fourteen fifteen WL. All right, Bia, Tideka. 2156 02:05:23,520 --> 02:05:25,040 Speaker 1: I'll let you finish your thoughts and we've got some 2157 02:05:25,080 --> 02:05:26,640 Speaker 1: folks want to talk to you. I got a tweet 2158 02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:28,520 Speaker 1: question for you as well well. 2159 02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:35,880 Speaker 13: Actually I want to The government been rolling rolling back 2160 02:05:36,440 --> 02:05:41,760 Speaker 13: on quote unquote black achievement right and things that were 2161 02:05:42,400 --> 02:05:46,520 Speaker 13: changed because of so called racism and things of that nature. 2162 02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:50,240 Speaker 13: They've been doing that this seat. This is the issue, 2163 02:05:50,280 --> 02:05:53,760 Speaker 13: and this is why we talk about programming. This didn't 2164 02:05:53,760 --> 02:05:57,560 Speaker 13: start with Trump. They've been rolling back things that have 2165 02:05:57,720 --> 02:06:02,440 Speaker 13: been given. This's been happening. But again, when the media 2166 02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:05,360 Speaker 13: tells you this is what Trump is doing, now you're 2167 02:06:05,400 --> 02:06:08,000 Speaker 13: gonna repeat it and regurgitate it. When the media tells 2168 02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:10,200 Speaker 13: you AI is the future, now you're gonna repeat it 2169 02:06:10,520 --> 02:06:14,360 Speaker 13: and regurgitate it. When the media tells you as far 2170 02:06:14,440 --> 02:06:17,520 Speaker 13: as AI is concerned, if you don't get involved, you're 2171 02:06:17,520 --> 02:06:20,160 Speaker 13: gonna get left behind. So you repeat that because the 2172 02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:24,520 Speaker 13: media programmed you to repeat that. So these are the 2173 02:06:24,600 --> 02:06:27,920 Speaker 13: things that happens when we talk about programming. I don't 2174 02:06:27,960 --> 02:06:30,320 Speaker 13: know how many people came on my social media on 2175 02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:36,400 Speaker 13: posts trying to validate the things that's happening with Trump, 2176 02:06:36,680 --> 02:06:39,600 Speaker 13: so called integration and all these different things and the 2177 02:06:39,680 --> 02:06:42,360 Speaker 13: support of black people, and you know, basically how black 2178 02:06:42,400 --> 02:06:47,360 Speaker 13: people disenfranchise themselves from themselves. All the excuses right in 2179 02:06:47,440 --> 02:06:51,040 Speaker 13: regards too well, but it's not what you do, it's 2180 02:06:51,120 --> 02:06:53,640 Speaker 13: how you do it. I have never heard so much 2181 02:06:53,840 --> 02:06:58,320 Speaker 13: Nigro and Sambo mess in regards to what's happening out 2182 02:06:58,400 --> 02:07:01,720 Speaker 13: here in this physical world world. So in other words, 2183 02:07:04,280 --> 02:07:07,600 Speaker 13: Greece or no Greece. But it's the same result. So 2184 02:07:07,720 --> 02:07:11,160 Speaker 13: we're not even looking at results anymore. We're looking at 2185 02:07:11,280 --> 02:07:15,920 Speaker 13: and making excuses for their party, their Democratic Party. And 2186 02:07:16,040 --> 02:07:18,280 Speaker 13: this is not to pick on Democrats. Most black people 2187 02:07:18,320 --> 02:07:21,000 Speaker 13: are Democrats. So that's why y'all get this fire. So 2188 02:07:21,160 --> 02:07:24,600 Speaker 13: this is what it is. So instead it's to make 2189 02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:27,720 Speaker 13: excuses for the Democratic Party, as if none of these 2190 02:07:27,800 --> 02:07:31,200 Speaker 13: things was taking place when the Democratic Party was in power. 2191 02:07:31,840 --> 02:07:36,120 Speaker 13: When I just broke down again the list in regards 2192 02:07:36,160 --> 02:07:40,440 Speaker 13: to police terrorism. These things were happening on the Democrats watch. 2193 02:07:42,600 --> 02:07:47,800 Speaker 13: These are facts. We can't ignore these things. Both parties 2194 02:07:47,840 --> 02:07:52,880 Speaker 13: are trash. Democrat and Republican their trash period. People are 2195 02:07:52,920 --> 02:07:54,520 Speaker 13: going to have to grow up. That's what this is 2196 02:07:54,560 --> 02:07:57,520 Speaker 13: about right now. So when you have Trump in front 2197 02:07:57,520 --> 02:08:00,520 Speaker 13: of you as a so called czar or whatever people 2198 02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:04,320 Speaker 13: want to call him, you should be paying attention to 2199 02:08:04,520 --> 02:08:07,640 Speaker 13: understand what we need to do as a people as 2200 02:08:07,680 --> 02:08:09,720 Speaker 13: opposed to everything you write about. 2201 02:08:09,560 --> 02:08:11,560 Speaker 7: Is Trump Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. 2202 02:08:11,320 --> 02:08:14,800 Speaker 13: Trump Trump. But you're doing nothing. What are you doing? 2203 02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:20,080 Speaker 13: If they're taking something away, what does that mean? That 2204 02:08:20,200 --> 02:08:23,800 Speaker 13: means it's something that we didn't control. That's our problem. 2205 02:08:24,080 --> 02:08:30,320 Speaker 13: We didn't control it. That's a problem. They're doing exactly 2206 02:08:30,400 --> 02:08:34,680 Speaker 13: what they're supposed to do. That's who they are. Be psychopathic, 2207 02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:39,880 Speaker 13: be narcissistic, that's who they are. Now, what are we 2208 02:08:40,040 --> 02:08:43,960 Speaker 13: doing as a divine creators and manifestors that we are 2209 02:08:44,080 --> 02:08:46,520 Speaker 13: we say we quote unquote gods, are we living it? 2210 02:08:48,240 --> 02:08:48,440 Speaker 1: See? 2211 02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:52,480 Speaker 13: This is what it comes down to. We have to 2212 02:08:52,560 --> 02:08:56,480 Speaker 13: do for self. It's not coming through the government. When 2213 02:08:56,520 --> 02:09:02,280 Speaker 13: will we get that memo? And if anybody got a 2214 02:09:02,320 --> 02:09:06,560 Speaker 13: problem with what I'm saying. I understand you're programmed and 2215 02:09:06,640 --> 02:09:12,120 Speaker 13: you're under mind control and psychological operations. 2216 02:09:14,040 --> 02:09:17,640 Speaker 1: Also under the illusion inclusion. That's why, Yes, there's some 2217 02:09:17,840 --> 02:09:20,280 Speaker 1: sort of paralysis here for us to make changes and 2218 02:09:20,920 --> 02:09:23,480 Speaker 1: do for self, because many of us are content with 2219 02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:27,480 Speaker 1: what we are. Brother Sidiki, once you're awakened, you're going 2220 02:09:27,560 --> 02:09:29,080 Speaker 1: to have to make a decision. Do you want to 2221 02:09:29,120 --> 02:09:30,840 Speaker 1: stay that way or do you want to make change? 2222 02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:34,120 Speaker 1: I think that's you think, sir, when you reach those 2223 02:09:34,160 --> 02:09:38,440 Speaker 1: crossroads there used to live and decide, well, maybe I'm 2224 02:09:38,440 --> 02:09:40,840 Speaker 1: not going to make a change. I'm just going to 2225 02:09:40,880 --> 02:09:43,840 Speaker 1: sit there, and you know, because it's easier, you know, 2226 02:09:44,280 --> 02:09:45,440 Speaker 1: life is easier that way. 2227 02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:47,680 Speaker 3: Is that what's going on with? 2228 02:09:49,160 --> 02:09:49,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? 2229 02:09:49,560 --> 02:09:52,120 Speaker 13: Absolutely, you're right, Carl. Black people got comfortable with one 2230 02:09:52,200 --> 02:09:55,760 Speaker 13: hundred and fifty thousand jobs a job that they have. 2231 02:09:55,960 --> 02:10:00,280 Speaker 13: They got comfortable, you know, sitting with white folks all 2232 02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:02,720 Speaker 13: day every day, and they think those white folks love them. 2233 02:10:03,040 --> 02:10:07,200 Speaker 13: They got comfortable, you see what I mean, Carl, They 2234 02:10:07,280 --> 02:10:12,480 Speaker 13: got comfortable. We got comfortable in these multicultural organizations, right, 2235 02:10:12,800 --> 02:10:16,240 Speaker 13: we got comfortable with these five ozho one c Three's right. 2236 02:10:16,520 --> 02:10:20,080 Speaker 13: We got comfortable with all these things. That looks like 2237 02:10:20,280 --> 02:10:23,320 Speaker 13: we are successful, but as a people, we are not. 2238 02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:28,760 Speaker 13: See these are the facts. As a people. Yeah, you 2239 02:10:28,840 --> 02:10:31,480 Speaker 13: have individuals that's done particular things, but most of them, 2240 02:10:31,720 --> 02:10:34,440 Speaker 13: when you look at that quote unquote success, they're bought 2241 02:10:34,520 --> 02:10:40,920 Speaker 13: and sold anyway, Like you said, the illusion of inclusion, right, 2242 02:10:41,240 --> 02:10:44,200 Speaker 13: and that's just what it is because you cannot be 2243 02:10:44,400 --> 02:10:48,280 Speaker 13: yourself in those spaces. You can't be authentic in those spaces. 2244 02:10:48,480 --> 02:10:50,800 Speaker 13: So you have to give up some of yourself to 2245 02:10:50,960 --> 02:10:54,560 Speaker 13: be in those spaces to begin with that in itself 2246 02:10:55,000 --> 02:10:59,040 Speaker 13: is programming, That in itself is oppression, That in itself 2247 02:10:59,240 --> 02:11:03,600 Speaker 13: is being in solis. No amount of money in the 2248 02:11:03,680 --> 02:11:11,200 Speaker 13: world is enough to be okay with that. So you 2249 02:11:11,320 --> 02:11:14,560 Speaker 13: create what you need to create. You create what you 2250 02:11:14,680 --> 02:11:15,360 Speaker 13: need to create. 2251 02:11:16,920 --> 02:11:19,360 Speaker 1: Yes, and I'm glad you went there because because that's 2252 02:11:19,360 --> 02:11:21,200 Speaker 1: why we need the solutions. The alternative is what we 2253 02:11:21,240 --> 02:11:23,480 Speaker 1: should be doing. But I'll let you explain that momentarily, 2254 02:11:23,520 --> 02:11:25,760 Speaker 1: but let's go to Charles. He has a question for 2255 02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:29,560 Speaker 1: you or comment is calling from Baltimore's online too. Grand Rising. 2256 02:11:29,720 --> 02:11:31,960 Speaker 1: Charles you know with a brother, Saidikabacari. 2257 02:11:33,320 --> 02:11:34,400 Speaker 16: Yes, how you're doing today? 2258 02:11:34,440 --> 02:11:36,040 Speaker 13: Brother, greetings. 2259 02:11:37,160 --> 02:11:40,120 Speaker 16: All right, all right, greatness, Well, I gotta say we 2260 02:11:40,480 --> 02:11:44,960 Speaker 16: are dealing with a I, which is the New World Order, 2261 02:11:45,480 --> 02:11:48,200 Speaker 16: and a lot of people don't realize that the New 2262 02:11:48,400 --> 02:11:53,960 Speaker 16: World Order means exactly what it says. It's a new 2263 02:11:54,240 --> 02:12:03,280 Speaker 16: way of bringing order to the world through and we're 2264 02:12:03,480 --> 02:12:07,000 Speaker 16: actually brain dead. See, we don't have any proof of 2265 02:12:07,080 --> 02:12:11,440 Speaker 16: life because we're dealing with a birth certificate system. But 2266 02:12:11,680 --> 02:12:16,760 Speaker 16: we don't understand that because we are fragmented. We are 2267 02:12:17,040 --> 02:12:22,040 Speaker 16: organic beings, but the machine is now doing the thinking 2268 02:12:22,240 --> 02:12:27,240 Speaker 16: for us. We're supposed to be thinking for ourselves, but 2269 02:12:27,400 --> 02:12:31,920 Speaker 16: we've been separated from our brains and now we're looking 2270 02:12:32,080 --> 02:12:37,960 Speaker 16: to something artificial to bridge that gap. When do we 2271 02:12:38,200 --> 02:12:44,360 Speaker 16: start picking up ourselves and actually doing the work that 2272 02:12:44,600 --> 02:12:48,320 Speaker 16: we've been talking about for the mass fifty years and 2273 02:12:48,560 --> 02:12:51,000 Speaker 16: not actually doing We. 2274 02:12:51,120 --> 02:12:55,600 Speaker 6: See everything around us that is not us, but we 2275 02:12:55,720 --> 02:13:00,520 Speaker 6: say we got the money of some countries, we're doing 2276 02:13:00,680 --> 02:13:05,400 Speaker 6: with it when we look like Kensington in Philadelphia. 2277 02:13:06,040 --> 02:13:07,400 Speaker 13: It doesn't make sense. 2278 02:13:08,400 --> 02:13:13,920 Speaker 6: How do we change this dynamic and narrative when we 2279 02:13:14,160 --> 02:13:18,080 Speaker 6: have no leadership and our leadership is led by money. 2280 02:13:19,160 --> 02:13:21,080 Speaker 1: All right, Charles, you put a lot on his play 2281 02:13:21,160 --> 02:13:22,560 Speaker 1: desk and we come up a break. I want to 2282 02:13:22,560 --> 02:13:25,120 Speaker 1: give brother a chance to respond to some of the things. 2283 02:13:26,800 --> 02:13:27,240 Speaker 4: Make sense. 2284 02:13:31,520 --> 02:13:32,320 Speaker 1: Put a lot on your play. 2285 02:13:33,680 --> 02:13:36,080 Speaker 16: I love it, I love it, I love I love 2286 02:13:36,200 --> 02:13:37,520 Speaker 16: this brother, And what he just. 2287 02:13:37,600 --> 02:13:40,080 Speaker 13: Said, it warns my heart when I hear our people 2288 02:13:41,440 --> 02:13:45,160 Speaker 13: so clear and to have the clarity and to really 2289 02:13:45,960 --> 02:13:49,200 Speaker 13: understand what's happening and what's going on. And this is 2290 02:13:49,240 --> 02:13:54,800 Speaker 13: the reason when I first embarked upon dealing with AI, transhumanism, 2291 02:13:54,880 --> 02:14:00,360 Speaker 13: technology and all the things that come with it, quote 2292 02:14:00,400 --> 02:14:07,880 Speaker 13: point with spiritual technology first and foremost. That's the key. 2293 02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:11,960 Speaker 13: Spiritual technology or are spiritual traditions, however we want to 2294 02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:14,440 Speaker 13: look at that, That was the key. So we're dealing 2295 02:14:14,480 --> 02:14:16,760 Speaker 13: with spirit, we're dealing with the soul. We're dealing with 2296 02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:19,960 Speaker 13: the imagination, we're dealing with intuition, we're dealing with all 2297 02:14:20,040 --> 02:14:22,920 Speaker 13: of those things that are quote unquote God, consciousness, all 2298 02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:26,800 Speaker 13: those things that connect us to nature, the universe, animals, humanity, 2299 02:14:27,240 --> 02:14:29,080 Speaker 13: things of that nature, our ancestors. 2300 02:14:29,200 --> 02:14:29,360 Speaker 14: Right. 2301 02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:33,200 Speaker 13: So this is the reason that was always the focal point. 2302 02:14:33,680 --> 02:14:36,440 Speaker 13: And this is why I tell people because a lot 2303 02:14:36,480 --> 02:14:38,680 Speaker 13: of people now are coming out and they're teaching about 2304 02:14:38,760 --> 02:14:42,040 Speaker 13: AI and all the things that's going on, which is fine. 2305 02:14:42,400 --> 02:14:46,920 Speaker 13: We need those perspectives, so that's fine. I just always say, 2306 02:14:47,080 --> 02:14:52,120 Speaker 13: make sure it's integrity, make sure there's responsibility, and make 2307 02:14:52,240 --> 02:14:56,680 Speaker 13: sure that you understand from a spiritual perspective, because if 2308 02:14:56,760 --> 02:15:01,280 Speaker 13: you don't, you cannot properly teach in regards to AI, 2309 02:15:01,520 --> 02:15:03,879 Speaker 13: what it is, where it's headed, or whatever the situation 2310 02:15:04,120 --> 02:15:09,000 Speaker 13: is with AI and technology. You will always be teaching 2311 02:15:09,080 --> 02:15:12,720 Speaker 13: it from a lens that is not an African lens, 2312 02:15:12,960 --> 02:15:15,520 Speaker 13: which is the original lens. And that's what we need 2313 02:15:15,560 --> 02:15:20,040 Speaker 13: to understand. Whether people call it AI African intelligence, whether 2314 02:15:20,120 --> 02:15:25,000 Speaker 13: people call it our type of intelligence, right, whether people 2315 02:15:25,120 --> 02:15:28,840 Speaker 13: call it ancestral intelligence. But the bottom line is, those 2316 02:15:28,920 --> 02:15:32,320 Speaker 13: are things that predate this notion of AI as we 2317 02:15:32,440 --> 02:15:35,760 Speaker 13: know it today, artificial intelligence. All right, this is the 2318 02:15:35,920 --> 02:15:40,480 Speaker 13: original intelligence. So if you have not mastered the original intelligence, 2319 02:15:40,520 --> 02:15:43,520 Speaker 13: how you gonna deal with the artificial intelligence to begin with? 2320 02:15:44,880 --> 02:15:49,200 Speaker 13: All right? So this is this is why it was 2321 02:15:49,640 --> 02:15:52,440 Speaker 13: framed and dealt with the way it was in the beginning, 2322 02:15:52,560 --> 02:15:55,480 Speaker 13: and why I sent it to the master teachers that 2323 02:15:55,560 --> 02:15:57,920 Speaker 13: I sent it to in the beginning before I even 2324 02:15:58,000 --> 02:16:03,280 Speaker 13: made this a real like platform, so to speak. So 2325 02:16:03,400 --> 02:16:06,360 Speaker 13: it's imperative that we understand the spiritual side of it, 2326 02:16:06,480 --> 02:16:11,000 Speaker 13: because the spiritual side of it, first and foremost is 2327 02:16:11,040 --> 02:16:13,920 Speaker 13: what creates the physical side. And this is why we're 2328 02:16:13,920 --> 02:16:17,840 Speaker 13: seeing what we're seeing in regards to AI, because we 2329 02:16:17,960 --> 02:16:20,280 Speaker 13: are dealing with it from the standpoint of a people 2330 02:16:20,360 --> 02:16:26,040 Speaker 13: who only understand the physical material world. And yes, we 2331 02:16:26,160 --> 02:16:29,320 Speaker 13: are creating many of these technologies. It doesn't matter if 2332 02:16:29,320 --> 02:16:32,520 Speaker 13: we're creating their technologies and we don't control them, all right, 2333 02:16:32,879 --> 02:16:35,880 Speaker 13: So that's what we're dealing with. We don't control the technologies. 2334 02:16:36,600 --> 02:16:40,360 Speaker 13: Everybody's doing zoom. We wouldn't be doing zoom if it 2335 02:16:40,440 --> 02:16:42,840 Speaker 13: wasn't for a system who created the technology to be 2336 02:16:42,959 --> 02:16:47,040 Speaker 13: able to do zoom and those type of setups, all right. 2337 02:16:47,680 --> 02:16:51,720 Speaker 13: But again we don't control these technologies, all right. So 2338 02:16:51,840 --> 02:16:54,240 Speaker 13: those are things we have to keep in mind when 2339 02:16:54,280 --> 02:16:56,520 Speaker 13: we deal with AI and these different things, and understand 2340 02:16:58,400 --> 02:17:03,000 Speaker 13: we're teaching it. This is why when you go on Facebook, 2341 02:17:03,040 --> 02:17:05,400 Speaker 13: it asks you what's on your mind, you're teaching it. 2342 02:17:05,959 --> 02:17:09,560 Speaker 13: When you deal with chat GPT, you're teaching it. People 2343 02:17:09,600 --> 02:17:12,520 Speaker 13: don't even know. People say chat GPT and can't tell 2344 02:17:12,560 --> 02:17:16,760 Speaker 13: you what the GPT even stand for. See, that's a problem. 2345 02:17:17,600 --> 02:17:21,160 Speaker 13: People talk about AI using AI, but can't they don't. 2346 02:17:21,400 --> 02:17:25,480 Speaker 13: They can't tell you what AI is. Right, So understand 2347 02:17:25,520 --> 02:17:28,760 Speaker 13: when you deal with CHAT, GPT, generative pre training or 2348 02:17:28,959 --> 02:17:35,120 Speaker 13: pre trained transformer right, general purpose technology, you're training it. 2349 02:17:36,480 --> 02:17:40,560 Speaker 13: It's learning from you. We're part of the experiment. We 2350 02:17:40,680 --> 02:17:44,480 Speaker 13: never understand this, just like COVID. We're part of the experiment. 2351 02:17:45,320 --> 02:17:48,480 Speaker 13: That's how it works. Doesn't work without us. Again, your 2352 02:17:48,520 --> 02:17:56,280 Speaker 13: participation period. We got here without artificial intelligence and technology 2353 02:17:56,360 --> 02:17:59,720 Speaker 13: so to speak. That's how we got That's why we 2354 02:17:59,840 --> 02:18:04,439 Speaker 13: hear today. That's why we've had all these different eras historically, 2355 02:18:05,120 --> 02:18:09,480 Speaker 13: because of spiritual technology and spiritual traditions and things of 2356 02:18:09,520 --> 02:18:11,440 Speaker 13: that nature, culture, art, and all the other things that 2357 02:18:11,560 --> 02:18:14,320 Speaker 13: come with that. That's why then, as I mentioned last 2358 02:18:14,400 --> 02:18:18,320 Speaker 13: last time I was here, LASMA the original operating systems, 2359 02:18:20,040 --> 02:18:24,959 Speaker 13: it's US. It's language. An operating system is a language model. 2360 02:18:25,160 --> 02:18:28,840 Speaker 13: Who created the language models we did? Meduntcher is a 2361 02:18:28,959 --> 02:18:31,960 Speaker 13: language model. When you deal with the Dogon, it's a 2362 02:18:32,120 --> 02:18:36,480 Speaker 13: language model. When you deal with Yotibu, it's a language model. 2363 02:18:37,040 --> 02:18:39,800 Speaker 13: When you deal with the Akhan, it's a language model. 2364 02:18:40,000 --> 02:18:42,400 Speaker 13: When you deal with the Zulu, it's a language model. 2365 02:18:42,560 --> 02:18:46,080 Speaker 13: When you deal with the Chua and the different names 2366 02:18:46,120 --> 02:18:48,920 Speaker 13: they go by all over the world, the Vatwa, the 2367 02:18:49,040 --> 02:18:52,039 Speaker 13: bai Kha, there's language models. When you deal with the ebo, 2368 02:18:52,160 --> 02:18:54,879 Speaker 13: it's a language model. When you deal with the kaku 2369 02:18:55,000 --> 02:18:58,080 Speaker 13: you or the kicking you, it's a language model. We 2370 02:18:58,240 --> 02:19:03,640 Speaker 13: are the language models. That's why it needs us in 2371 02:19:03,840 --> 02:19:08,520 Speaker 13: order to learn. And this is why I, personally I 2372 02:19:08,640 --> 02:19:12,720 Speaker 13: don't think we should teach Ai. That's the whole purpose 2373 02:19:12,760 --> 02:19:14,440 Speaker 13: of the program, for it to learn from us to 2374 02:19:14,520 --> 02:19:17,560 Speaker 13: begin with. It is a SiO, that's the psychological operation. 2375 02:19:18,520 --> 02:19:21,240 Speaker 13: That's our part of it. And then it'll be used 2376 02:19:21,240 --> 02:19:24,760 Speaker 13: against us, as it's already been used against us. Right. 2377 02:19:25,959 --> 02:19:30,880 Speaker 13: Digital prison or algorithmic freedom, that's what we're talking about. 2378 02:19:31,600 --> 02:19:37,680 Speaker 13: It's a digital prison through algorithms, binary codes, computation, and 2379 02:19:37,840 --> 02:19:41,160 Speaker 13: other forms of technology. That's what it is. We are 2380 02:19:41,200 --> 02:19:47,120 Speaker 13: the original algorithm, the original binary code, that's us, the 2381 02:19:47,200 --> 02:19:52,400 Speaker 13: original computation. You can't blink your eye without it, you 2382 02:19:52,520 --> 02:19:56,720 Speaker 13: can't walk without it, you can't think without it. The 2383 02:19:56,840 --> 02:20:02,320 Speaker 13: greatest technologies that exist our imagination. Our imagination is quote 2384 02:20:02,400 --> 02:20:08,000 Speaker 13: unquote God intuition. Our intuition is quote unquote God. The 2385 02:20:08,120 --> 02:20:12,040 Speaker 13: universe in general, the greatest intelligence to exist, nature, the 2386 02:20:12,120 --> 02:20:18,359 Speaker 13: greatest intelligence to exist, not artificial intelligence. Now people edified 2387 02:20:18,400 --> 02:20:21,320 Speaker 13: and deified because white people told you to, because you 2388 02:20:21,520 --> 02:20:26,400 Speaker 13: was programmed too. Now they're telling you as conscious. Now 2389 02:20:26,440 --> 02:20:30,000 Speaker 13: they're telling you as sentient. Now they're telling you it's aware. 2390 02:20:31,280 --> 02:20:34,440 Speaker 13: It will never be sentient, it will never be conscious, 2391 02:20:34,520 --> 02:20:37,680 Speaker 13: It will never be aware. But if they can do 2392 02:20:37,800 --> 02:20:40,880 Speaker 13: it is you will quote unquote believe it. 2393 02:20:41,440 --> 02:20:43,200 Speaker 1: All right, Hold, I'm all right there, brother Cideki right 2394 02:20:43,200 --> 02:20:44,960 Speaker 1: a step aside for a few moments so our stations 2395 02:20:45,000 --> 02:20:47,119 Speaker 1: can identify themselves down the line. Let me come back. 2396 02:20:47,120 --> 02:20:49,200 Speaker 1: We've got some folks want to speak with you. Family, 2397 02:20:49,240 --> 02:20:52,039 Speaker 1: You two can join our conversation with brother Sadeka Bakari. 2398 02:20:52,440 --> 02:20:54,480 Speaker 1: Just reach out to us at eight hundred four five 2399 02:20:54,640 --> 02:20:57,720 Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone 2400 02:20:57,760 --> 02:21:00,520 Speaker 1: calls next and grand rising family, than to stay with 2401 02:21:00,640 --> 02:21:02,640 Speaker 1: us on this Monday morning. Thanks for starting your week 2402 02:21:02,680 --> 02:21:04,720 Speaker 1: with us, in the month with us. As a matter 2403 02:21:04,760 --> 02:21:07,400 Speaker 1: of fact, this is a Black History Month, the one 2404 02:21:07,520 --> 02:21:09,800 Speaker 1: hundredth anniversary of Black History Month. But as you know, 2405 02:21:09,920 --> 02:21:13,039 Speaker 1: we celebrate Black History Month every single day, every single 2406 02:21:13,120 --> 02:21:15,840 Speaker 1: minute on this program. But anyway, there are other folks 2407 02:21:16,120 --> 02:21:19,160 Speaker 1: for them. It's the one hundredth anniversary of Black History Month. 2408 02:21:19,200 --> 02:21:22,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna have some special programming as the month proceeds. 2409 02:21:23,320 --> 02:21:27,680 Speaker 1: Our guest his brother Sadeka Bakari, we're talking about artificial 2410 02:21:27,760 --> 02:21:30,240 Speaker 1: intelligence AI. What are your thoughts eight hundred and four 2411 02:21:30,280 --> 02:21:33,000 Speaker 1: to five zero seventy eight seventy sixty, She says, we're 2412 02:21:33,000 --> 02:21:35,880 Speaker 1: being programmed. Let's go to Christian Christian's call us from 2413 02:21:35,920 --> 02:21:38,600 Speaker 1: Maliburi's online three Grand Rising Christian. You're on with brother 2414 02:21:38,640 --> 02:21:43,160 Speaker 1: Sadeka Baccaria. 2415 02:21:41,200 --> 02:21:45,840 Speaker 4: In Minding Builders. In nineteen seventy two, IBM developed a 2416 02:21:45,920 --> 02:21:50,600 Speaker 4: supercomputer called the Blue. It took us about many twenty 2417 02:21:50,720 --> 02:21:53,600 Speaker 4: years to get it where they can overtake the Newman 2418 02:21:53,800 --> 02:21:57,960 Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety seven, a supercomputer be the grand Master 2419 02:21:58,200 --> 02:22:02,560 Speaker 4: in chess, Gary kaspar Off in nineteen moves. But what 2420 02:22:02,720 --> 02:22:06,800 Speaker 4: it is you are a supercomputer. You are when you 2421 02:22:06,959 --> 02:22:13,120 Speaker 4: have flight, a fight, fear in your body. That is 2422 02:22:13,400 --> 02:22:19,400 Speaker 4: a trauma response, which is intelligence, which means that when 2423 02:22:19,440 --> 02:22:23,679 Speaker 4: you feel these things, it is not the emotion is intelligence, 2424 02:22:24,440 --> 02:22:28,720 Speaker 4: but that is that in the genetic code you can 2425 02:22:28,920 --> 02:22:35,160 Speaker 4: feel trauma and fear, which is intelligence for fourteen generations. 2426 02:22:35,400 --> 02:22:38,200 Speaker 4: It's built into you. And so if you're smart and 2427 02:22:38,360 --> 02:22:40,560 Speaker 4: you study, you can always be the computer. I do 2428 02:22:40,600 --> 02:22:43,600 Speaker 4: it every day when I learned this in college. You 2429 02:22:43,680 --> 02:22:48,760 Speaker 4: can take one one genius, Y genius, tesla, you name them, 2430 02:22:49,200 --> 02:22:52,320 Speaker 4: and you get one hundred regular people. And then they 2431 02:22:52,360 --> 02:22:55,760 Speaker 4: set up an equation with the people versus the genius 2432 02:22:55,879 --> 02:22:59,200 Speaker 4: as far as a problem, and the adas people were 2433 02:22:59,240 --> 02:23:01,680 Speaker 4: how smart the genie es. So what it is is 2434 02:23:01,800 --> 02:23:05,240 Speaker 4: in you. You can you can defeat the computer that's 2435 02:23:05,240 --> 02:23:07,680 Speaker 4: go on the phone all the time. And I beat 2436 02:23:07,720 --> 02:23:10,720 Speaker 4: the computer the AI because I know more so if 2437 02:23:10,760 --> 02:23:14,680 Speaker 4: you still get your mind right, they will never overtake you. Now, 2438 02:23:14,760 --> 02:23:17,440 Speaker 4: let me give me to one in practice. Okay, it's 2439 02:23:17,440 --> 02:23:21,000 Speaker 4: supposed to happen. When CAMERRAA. Harris got into office, she's 2440 02:23:21,160 --> 02:23:22,720 Speaker 4: the first thing she's supposed to do is go down 2441 02:23:22,760 --> 02:23:24,680 Speaker 4: to Toso over whom when it's treating all that stuff 2442 02:23:24,680 --> 02:23:27,039 Speaker 4: out and make those people a hole. When you put 2443 02:23:27,080 --> 02:23:29,680 Speaker 4: people in place who don't think that's what they want. 2444 02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:31,960 Speaker 4: They don't want people who are smart. That's why they 2445 02:23:32,000 --> 02:23:34,360 Speaker 4: compromise people with money. So you always got to be 2446 02:23:34,440 --> 02:23:36,800 Speaker 4: true to yourself and don't go along with the crowd, 2447 02:23:37,080 --> 02:23:38,240 Speaker 4: tell me what you thinks to her own. 2448 02:23:40,160 --> 02:23:46,480 Speaker 13: Okay, so the AI part one, I'm in agreement. So 2449 02:23:47,240 --> 02:23:50,160 Speaker 13: and I appreciate what this brother had to say. That 2450 02:23:50,360 --> 02:23:56,960 Speaker 13: takes us deeper into when we start dealing with energy. Right, 2451 02:23:57,040 --> 02:23:59,160 Speaker 13: when we start dealing with AI, when we start dealing 2452 02:23:59,200 --> 02:24:03,120 Speaker 13: with entities and frequencies and all these different things, and 2453 02:24:03,520 --> 02:24:08,440 Speaker 13: we start talking about how it affects us generationally, genetically 2454 02:24:08,800 --> 02:24:11,200 Speaker 13: and things of that nature, that's a rabbit hole that 2455 02:24:11,520 --> 02:24:15,000 Speaker 13: I really rarely deal with because hell, we can't just 2456 02:24:15,080 --> 02:24:18,600 Speaker 13: get people to understand what AI is more or less 2457 02:24:18,840 --> 02:24:20,960 Speaker 13: to really go down that rabbit hole. But he's getting 2458 02:24:21,040 --> 02:24:24,200 Speaker 13: more into the science of it from a standpoint of 2459 02:24:24,320 --> 02:24:26,960 Speaker 13: biometric signatures and things of that nature. When he's talking 2460 02:24:27,000 --> 02:24:32,920 Speaker 13: about trauma, it leaves signatures in you biometrically, right, he 2461 02:24:33,080 --> 02:24:36,480 Speaker 13: mentioned a migdoo lie and trauma response and fear response 2462 02:24:36,560 --> 02:24:39,080 Speaker 13: and things of that nature. So we're talking about electric 2463 02:24:39,200 --> 02:24:42,920 Speaker 13: currents and charges, right, We're talking about thermal currents, currents, 2464 02:24:43,120 --> 02:24:48,760 Speaker 13: We're talking about biometric engineering and tracking based on that energy. 2465 02:24:48,840 --> 02:24:52,200 Speaker 13: We're talking about waveforms and data streams. Those are the 2466 02:24:52,280 --> 02:24:56,200 Speaker 13: things that we're talking about. The energy harvesting, right, whether 2467 02:24:56,360 --> 02:25:01,040 Speaker 13: that is the trauma itself or the inner itself, and 2468 02:25:01,200 --> 02:25:04,200 Speaker 13: how it is harvested in our bodies, on every aspect 2469 02:25:04,400 --> 02:25:07,080 Speaker 13: of our bodies, and as well as how it's being 2470 02:25:07,160 --> 02:25:12,840 Speaker 13: harvested from outside sources. All right, So we're definitely dealing 2471 02:25:12,959 --> 02:25:15,200 Speaker 13: with a lot of science here in regards to what 2472 02:25:15,320 --> 02:25:18,960 Speaker 13: the brother is talking about and what AI is versus 2473 02:25:19,040 --> 02:25:21,480 Speaker 13: what it really Isn't Like when you deal with the Internet, 2474 02:25:21,560 --> 02:25:24,800 Speaker 13: people don't understand the Internet itself is a portal, it's 2475 02:25:24,840 --> 02:25:28,600 Speaker 13: a gateway, it's a stargate. So people don't understand they're 2476 02:25:28,680 --> 02:25:33,000 Speaker 13: infusing themselves into that portal when they're on the Internet 2477 02:25:33,360 --> 02:25:36,880 Speaker 13: or in the virtual world, and people don't understand what 2478 02:25:37,040 --> 02:25:39,920 Speaker 13: that means. Right, So I need people to understand something. 2479 02:25:40,000 --> 02:25:42,360 Speaker 13: You are a mind foul when you deal with AI 2480 02:25:42,560 --> 02:25:45,240 Speaker 13: in the virtual world or the Internet or the metaverse 2481 02:25:45,320 --> 02:25:48,920 Speaker 13: or whatever we're talking about. Your mind foul or what 2482 02:25:49,040 --> 02:25:53,280 Speaker 13: I call a mind portfolio. You're being used to create 2483 02:25:53,920 --> 02:25:58,560 Speaker 13: software or mindware. You're being used to create that for 2484 02:25:58,840 --> 02:26:02,959 Speaker 13: the different operating systems AI or whatever type of system 2485 02:26:03,000 --> 02:26:07,960 Speaker 13: we're talking about. That's what's happening. So again I try 2486 02:26:08,000 --> 02:26:10,200 Speaker 13: to give examples. This is the reason when you go 2487 02:26:10,360 --> 02:26:13,440 Speaker 13: to Facebook, the first thing you see is what's on 2488 02:26:13,760 --> 02:26:17,120 Speaker 13: your mind? Again, you are a mind fouled you ar 2489 02:26:17,240 --> 02:26:23,240 Speaker 13: mind portfolio. AI is learning from you its brain, right, 2490 02:26:23,560 --> 02:26:26,320 Speaker 13: So this is the issue. So AI is quote unquote 2491 02:26:26,360 --> 02:26:30,920 Speaker 13: augmenting or advancing, but in most cases humans aren't. See 2492 02:26:30,959 --> 02:26:34,040 Speaker 13: that's the problem. It's what humans aren't doing. It's not 2493 02:26:34,160 --> 02:26:36,920 Speaker 13: what AI is or isn't doing. It's what humans aren't doing. 2494 02:26:38,240 --> 02:26:41,320 Speaker 13: That's the major problem. That's the major issue, all right. 2495 02:26:41,640 --> 02:26:46,119 Speaker 13: That takes us into transhumanism. People have no idea what's happening, 2496 02:26:46,160 --> 02:26:48,400 Speaker 13: and it's in their face every day. It's levels and 2497 02:26:48,440 --> 02:26:51,360 Speaker 13: tiers of transhumanism. When you cut on the television, you're 2498 02:26:51,400 --> 02:26:55,480 Speaker 13: a transhumanist because now you're interfacing with the technology. When 2499 02:26:55,520 --> 02:26:59,080 Speaker 13: you use your digital phone, you're a transhuman because you 2500 02:26:59,320 --> 02:27:04,160 Speaker 13: are interfacing with the digital phone or that type of technology. 2501 02:27:04,840 --> 02:27:08,400 Speaker 13: All right, that's a transhuman right. But then there's higher 2502 02:27:08,879 --> 02:27:13,320 Speaker 13: tiers to transhumanism when we talk about now you're being 2503 02:27:13,480 --> 02:27:17,440 Speaker 13: infiltrated with the different types of technology. It's a lot 2504 02:27:17,480 --> 02:27:20,320 Speaker 13: of that going on that people don't understand what's happening. 2505 02:27:20,400 --> 02:27:22,400 Speaker 13: From the water you drink the food you eat, the 2506 02:27:22,520 --> 02:27:25,680 Speaker 13: air you breathe, those types of things. So it's not 2507 02:27:25,879 --> 02:27:28,560 Speaker 13: just people who got the JAB, all right, it's other 2508 02:27:28,760 --> 02:27:33,520 Speaker 13: methods and ways that they're infiltrating people's bodies with these 2509 02:27:33,600 --> 02:27:41,279 Speaker 13: particular types of inorganic organisms in order to create transhumans, 2510 02:27:41,560 --> 02:27:44,160 Speaker 13: all right. And that's a whole nother conversation when we 2511 02:27:44,280 --> 02:27:46,959 Speaker 13: talk about transhumans and a lot of people who got 2512 02:27:47,000 --> 02:27:50,320 Speaker 13: the JAB, at some point, what's going to happen in 2513 02:27:50,480 --> 02:27:54,640 Speaker 13: the near future is those people will not be considered human. 2514 02:27:54,879 --> 02:27:56,960 Speaker 13: So I don't know what you think black people are 2515 02:27:57,040 --> 02:28:02,840 Speaker 13: considered right now, So imagine what that looks like now 2516 02:28:02,879 --> 02:28:07,640 Speaker 13: that you're considered a transhuman, all right. So understand, it 2517 02:28:07,800 --> 02:28:10,280 Speaker 13: was a lot of implications that people didn't understand from 2518 02:28:10,360 --> 02:28:12,680 Speaker 13: the jabs, A lot of implications people aren't going to 2519 02:28:12,800 --> 02:28:15,800 Speaker 13: understand with digital twins and all these other things that's 2520 02:28:15,800 --> 02:28:19,720 Speaker 13: taking place that people don't understand is really taking place 2521 02:28:20,040 --> 02:28:22,520 Speaker 13: and what's happening here, all right. And I didn't really 2522 02:28:22,680 --> 02:28:24,680 Speaker 13: I didn't open up with all the things that we 2523 02:28:24,800 --> 02:28:28,640 Speaker 13: could talk about that's part of all of this, right, 2524 02:28:29,360 --> 02:28:32,200 Speaker 13: the human control grid, smart cities, that type of thing, 2525 02:28:32,320 --> 02:28:34,040 Speaker 13: and I definitely want to talk about that before we 2526 02:28:34,120 --> 02:28:37,199 Speaker 13: get off. But the Project Stargate, the five hundred billion 2527 02:28:37,280 --> 02:28:43,800 Speaker 13: dollar project under Trump and his AI project, so to speak. 2528 02:28:43,840 --> 02:28:45,920 Speaker 13: And really that's just a competition with chying to Japan 2529 02:28:46,000 --> 02:28:48,160 Speaker 13: and everybody else. That's all that really is. But the 2530 02:28:48,200 --> 02:28:51,640 Speaker 13: bottom line is Project Stargate is to further oppress you. 2531 02:28:52,080 --> 02:28:56,080 Speaker 13: That's what Project Project Stargate is through algorithms and things 2532 02:28:56,120 --> 02:28:59,200 Speaker 13: of that nature. And that's how what the oppression is 2533 02:28:59,240 --> 02:29:02,160 Speaker 13: going to look like in the future. Well it's already happening, 2534 02:29:02,640 --> 02:29:04,840 Speaker 13: but in the near future is it'll look more like 2535 02:29:04,959 --> 02:29:09,680 Speaker 13: it because you can't see it. That's a whole nother conversation, 2536 02:29:09,840 --> 02:29:14,680 Speaker 13: all right, But you have CHAGGPT, you have virtual reality interface, 2537 02:29:15,120 --> 02:29:19,000 Speaker 13: virtual infrastructures, infrastructure excuse me. You have five G, six G, 2538 02:29:19,200 --> 02:29:23,279 Speaker 13: seven G, all the G technologies. You have the digital currency, 2539 02:29:23,360 --> 02:29:27,200 Speaker 13: digital ID. You have AI, which we talked about, transhumanism, 2540 02:29:27,280 --> 02:29:33,920 Speaker 13: the singularity, post humanism, cyberspace and blockchain, networks and technology, 2541 02:29:34,040 --> 02:29:38,000 Speaker 13: meta information metadata, human two point zero, digital futures, digital alchemy, 2542 02:29:38,360 --> 02:29:44,160 Speaker 13: reimagining the future. When you hear reimagining coming from politicians 2543 02:29:44,680 --> 02:29:52,200 Speaker 13: or any aspect of the government, reimagining is primarily how 2544 02:29:52,280 --> 02:29:58,120 Speaker 13: they're imagining your future of oppression through technology. That's what 2545 02:29:58,280 --> 02:30:00,920 Speaker 13: reimagining mean. So that the reason out here when the 2546 02:30:01,000 --> 02:30:05,520 Speaker 13: fires took place in southern California, you start hearing reimagining 2547 02:30:05,600 --> 02:30:07,560 Speaker 13: from the governor and all these different things, we're going 2548 02:30:07,640 --> 02:30:11,280 Speaker 13: to reimagine the new humanity and all these different things 2549 02:30:11,640 --> 02:30:14,400 Speaker 13: that were being said, Well, that's through AI and oppression, 2550 02:30:14,440 --> 02:30:17,080 Speaker 13: and that's the reason he was talking about smart cities 2551 02:30:17,400 --> 02:30:19,480 Speaker 13: and things of that nature in which you will have 2552 02:30:19,680 --> 02:30:24,760 Speaker 13: absolutely no control and they will have absolutely all control 2553 02:30:25,240 --> 02:30:30,600 Speaker 13: of your life. Hope everybody understand that. Also, digital entities, 2554 02:30:30,680 --> 02:30:38,280 Speaker 13: digital footprints, digital replicas, mind mapping, so all these different things, cryogenics, nanotechnology, 2555 02:30:38,360 --> 02:30:41,039 Speaker 13: internet of things, in the net of humans in their 2556 02:30:41,120 --> 02:30:44,320 Speaker 13: net of thoughts, all these things that will be connected 2557 02:30:44,400 --> 02:30:47,800 Speaker 13: to the control grid or smart cities to keep you 2558 02:30:47,920 --> 02:30:51,000 Speaker 13: in this fifteen minute radius, so to speak. So everything 2559 02:30:51,040 --> 02:30:53,320 Speaker 13: that you need is in this fifteen minute radius. But 2560 02:30:53,440 --> 02:30:58,400 Speaker 13: this is you accepting the digital everything as far as 2561 02:30:58,440 --> 02:31:02,080 Speaker 13: AI is concerned. See, that's what this is. And people 2562 02:31:02,120 --> 02:31:04,600 Speaker 13: don't understand it. You think because you can go to chat, 2563 02:31:04,680 --> 02:31:07,480 Speaker 13: gpt in or some operating system and it helps you 2564 02:31:07,920 --> 02:31:10,600 Speaker 13: to write an essay or it helps you to do 2565 02:31:12,040 --> 02:31:15,160 Speaker 13: a job application or whatever reasons people are using it 2566 02:31:15,280 --> 02:31:18,720 Speaker 13: for to do a business plan. You think that it's 2567 02:31:18,800 --> 02:31:20,480 Speaker 13: the way to go because they help you do that, 2568 02:31:22,680 --> 02:31:24,320 Speaker 13: even though we've been doing that. So I don't know 2569 02:31:24,400 --> 02:31:27,800 Speaker 13: how long with no operating systems? All right, And I'll 2570 02:31:27,840 --> 02:31:31,320 Speaker 13: tell people see the movie Her. I'm not promoting it, really, 2571 02:31:31,400 --> 02:31:34,119 Speaker 13: but I just know if you watch the movie her, 2572 02:31:35,040 --> 02:31:40,520 Speaker 13: h Er Her, it will help you to understand how 2573 02:31:40,760 --> 02:31:46,840 Speaker 13: operating systems work. It will help you to understand it 2574 02:31:47,000 --> 02:31:51,640 Speaker 13: the movie Her. Just watch the movie, but pay attention 2575 02:31:51,840 --> 02:31:57,000 Speaker 13: to how the operating system works. They gave it a name, 2576 02:31:57,120 --> 02:31:59,320 Speaker 13: all those different things because what they do is their 2577 02:31:59,320 --> 02:32:03,240 Speaker 13: attempt to humanize AI. They attempt to humanize the technology. 2578 02:32:03,520 --> 02:32:04,279 Speaker 16: That's why now. 2579 02:32:04,200 --> 02:32:07,320 Speaker 13: People go to it as if it's a damn therapist 2580 02:32:07,480 --> 02:32:10,959 Speaker 13: and counselor, and you know, you know all these different 2581 02:32:11,040 --> 02:32:16,240 Speaker 13: things that that are really mental health issues. You think 2582 02:32:16,440 --> 02:32:19,040 Speaker 13: talking to a computer is going to heal you, or 2583 02:32:19,080 --> 02:32:22,160 Speaker 13: an operating system or chat GPT or whatever. We're talking 2584 02:32:22,160 --> 02:32:25,440 Speaker 13: about a language model like, that's where we are now 2585 02:32:26,000 --> 02:32:31,320 Speaker 13: as humans, That's where we are right, Hold on thought. 2586 02:32:31,200 --> 02:32:32,600 Speaker 1: Right there, Some mother folks want to talk to you 2587 02:32:32,680 --> 02:32:34,840 Speaker 1: with thirteen after the top. The Cliff is calling from 2588 02:32:34,879 --> 02:32:37,680 Speaker 1: Connecticut's online too. Grand Rising Cliff, you're on your brother 2589 02:32:37,720 --> 02:32:40,519 Speaker 1: Sadeka Bakari, GRANDBROTHERI. 2590 02:32:40,080 --> 02:32:42,720 Speaker 17: And brother Carlinton, your guest brother Sudiki, brother Cudica. I 2591 02:32:42,760 --> 02:32:45,440 Speaker 17: want to ask you two questions. What do you believe 2592 02:32:45,520 --> 02:32:48,959 Speaker 17: would be the is the major source of us being 2593 02:32:49,040 --> 02:32:52,240 Speaker 17: so gullible as black people? I know you kind of 2594 02:32:52,320 --> 02:32:56,360 Speaker 17: touched on it before during your presentation, but what will 2595 02:32:56,400 --> 02:32:59,520 Speaker 17: be the main source that you believe that is convincing 2596 02:32:59,600 --> 02:33:03,280 Speaker 17: us or receiving us as black people to accept this AI. 2597 02:33:05,680 --> 02:33:08,480 Speaker 13: Well, it's a lot of things. Of course, it's programming, 2598 02:33:08,640 --> 02:33:13,400 Speaker 13: of course, it's uh fear, of course, it's trauma. Of course, 2599 02:33:13,560 --> 02:33:18,600 Speaker 13: it is Stockholm syndrome, which is edifying and deifying your oppressor. 2600 02:33:19,040 --> 02:33:21,920 Speaker 13: That's what Stockholm syndrome is. So this is the reason. 2601 02:33:23,480 --> 02:33:28,119 Speaker 13: So I'll give you an example all the work. I'm sorry, 2602 02:33:28,160 --> 02:33:30,000 Speaker 13: but you said that and I got that. 2603 02:33:30,200 --> 02:33:30,840 Speaker 1: So here's my look. 2604 02:33:30,920 --> 02:33:33,360 Speaker 17: Let me put it to a question for him, how 2605 02:33:33,520 --> 02:33:37,880 Speaker 17: much or how important does religion Christianity play in this 2606 02:33:37,959 --> 02:33:41,520 Speaker 17: wholeak creating? And then my second question is who is 2607 02:33:41,640 --> 02:33:44,360 Speaker 17: the one that's actually behind the scene creating this So 2608 02:33:44,480 --> 02:33:46,600 Speaker 17: you know, you mentioned the Democrat and the Republican Party, 2609 02:33:46,760 --> 02:33:49,040 Speaker 17: and I totally agree with you. They're all the same thing. 2610 02:33:49,360 --> 02:33:52,560 Speaker 17: Who are these people that have this power if that 2611 02:33:52,680 --> 02:33:53,360 Speaker 17: makes any sense. 2612 02:33:54,280 --> 02:33:58,840 Speaker 13: Yeah, corporations, bloodlines, those are the people who have the power. 2613 02:33:58,959 --> 02:34:00,920 Speaker 13: If you want to know who to those bloodlines are 2614 02:34:01,000 --> 02:34:03,600 Speaker 13: and the corporations are, go do some research. And the 2615 02:34:03,680 --> 02:34:05,800 Speaker 13: reason I tell people to go do research, and I'm 2616 02:34:05,879 --> 02:34:10,240 Speaker 13: never gonna give you everything, is because I understand when 2617 02:34:10,320 --> 02:34:14,600 Speaker 13: people do research themselves and they're more invested themselves and 2618 02:34:14,720 --> 02:34:18,280 Speaker 13: they go through the process themselves, it means more to them. 2619 02:34:19,120 --> 02:34:24,800 Speaker 13: It's sticking, right, And I've done that point but against 2620 02:34:25,120 --> 02:34:30,680 Speaker 13: absolute and then I'll hang up. Yeah, so okay. So 2621 02:34:30,800 --> 02:34:35,440 Speaker 13: as far as religion, so I mentioned psyops earlier, religion 2622 02:34:35,560 --> 02:34:37,240 Speaker 13: is a psiop as well. And I know this is 2623 02:34:37,320 --> 02:34:41,120 Speaker 13: gonna be hard for many of the listeners to listen to, 2624 02:34:41,720 --> 02:34:44,800 Speaker 13: but religion is a syop as well. Understand it's a 2625 02:34:44,840 --> 02:34:49,080 Speaker 13: psychological operation. There are things that are in religion that 2626 02:34:49,200 --> 02:34:55,120 Speaker 13: are specifically there to keep you program to keep you 2627 02:34:55,400 --> 02:35:00,840 Speaker 13: in Stockholm syndrome. Now, what do as I gonna explain 2628 02:35:00,959 --> 02:35:06,480 Speaker 13: what Stockholm syndrome is? So all the knowledge I've given 2629 02:35:06,640 --> 02:35:09,760 Speaker 13: all the books I write, the things that I do, 2630 02:35:10,680 --> 02:35:13,040 Speaker 13: and people know it, they hear it, they attend it. 2631 02:35:14,840 --> 02:35:19,560 Speaker 13: For many people, that knowledge is not credible to them 2632 02:35:19,800 --> 02:35:25,040 Speaker 13: until they hear a white person say it. I don't 2633 02:35:25,120 --> 02:35:28,200 Speaker 13: know how to make that more simple. All right, that's 2634 02:35:28,240 --> 02:35:35,400 Speaker 13: Stockholm syndrome. All right. So religion, and I'm not staying 2635 02:35:35,440 --> 02:35:38,000 Speaker 13: here long. I'm gonna be very brief on this. When 2636 02:35:38,040 --> 02:35:40,400 Speaker 13: you deal with religion, I'm gonna deal with Christianity because 2637 02:35:40,440 --> 02:35:42,920 Speaker 13: most of our people are Christians, all right, just like 2638 02:35:43,000 --> 02:35:45,520 Speaker 13: the Democrats. Most of our people are Democrats. So that's 2639 02:35:45,560 --> 02:35:49,280 Speaker 13: where I'm going to go. So with Christianity, when you 2640 02:35:49,400 --> 02:35:53,040 Speaker 13: are looking at this man that they call Jesus, he 2641 02:35:53,360 --> 02:36:00,720 Speaker 13: is white. If he is white, what does his father 2642 02:36:00,920 --> 02:36:04,000 Speaker 13: have to be or who he represents quote unquote. 2643 02:36:03,640 --> 02:36:04,560 Speaker 16: God have to be. 2644 02:36:06,320 --> 02:36:09,840 Speaker 13: White. This is why the imaging was so important to 2645 02:36:10,040 --> 02:36:14,520 Speaker 13: program you subconsciously to think that when you think of divinity, 2646 02:36:14,600 --> 02:36:16,520 Speaker 13: when you think of quote unquote God, which is a 2647 02:36:16,560 --> 02:36:20,440 Speaker 13: whole nother conversation because you see God through European LANs anyway, 2648 02:36:20,520 --> 02:36:23,920 Speaker 13: that's a whole nother conversation. What you call God, all right, 2649 02:36:24,000 --> 02:36:26,720 Speaker 13: that's a whole nother conversation, but just the notion of 2650 02:36:26,879 --> 02:36:31,760 Speaker 13: the white Jesus, the Father quote unquote, God quote unquote. 2651 02:36:31,920 --> 02:36:34,280 Speaker 13: So all that is obviously in the image of a 2652 02:36:34,360 --> 02:36:38,840 Speaker 13: white person, So subconsciously, how will you project that into 2653 02:36:39,080 --> 02:36:43,080 Speaker 13: your life or your world? In the third dimension, You're 2654 02:36:43,120 --> 02:36:48,960 Speaker 13: gonna project that as white. So if this is the greatest, 2655 02:36:49,200 --> 02:36:55,440 Speaker 13: most omnipotent, omniscient being of existence, that's how you're going 2656 02:36:55,520 --> 02:36:59,880 Speaker 13: to operate in your life. I don't know how to 2657 02:37:00,080 --> 02:37:02,640 Speaker 13: make that make more sense for people, right. 2658 02:37:02,720 --> 02:37:04,720 Speaker 1: Huh, hold up thoughout that. I'll let you finish explaining 2659 02:37:04,760 --> 02:37:05,960 Speaker 1: that when we get back. We got to take a 2660 02:37:05,959 --> 02:37:07,879 Speaker 1: short break at seventeen after the top of the brother 2661 02:37:07,920 --> 02:37:12,800 Speaker 1: Sadeka Bacari brother Sideki Bacari is a futuristic researcher. Got questions. 2662 02:37:12,840 --> 02:37:15,000 Speaker 1: Reach out to us at eight hundred four five zero 2663 02:37:15,640 --> 02:37:18,200 Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls. 2664 02:37:18,360 --> 02:37:21,439 Speaker 1: Next and grand raising family. I guess it's brother Sadeki Bacaris. 2665 02:37:21,480 --> 02:37:23,920 Speaker 1: I mentioned he's a futuristic researcher. You want to speak 2666 02:37:23,920 --> 02:37:27,200 Speaker 1: to him eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six. 2667 02:37:27,280 --> 02:37:29,040 Speaker 1: Brother Sideki, I'll let you finish your thought, and I 2668 02:37:29,120 --> 02:37:31,520 Speaker 1: a question for you about Elon Musk. 2669 02:37:32,760 --> 02:37:32,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 2670 02:37:33,040 --> 02:37:35,360 Speaker 13: So I'm done with the Christianity, but what I'd like 2671 02:37:35,480 --> 02:37:38,080 Speaker 13: to do is for the listeners. I'm having a class Sunday. 2672 02:37:38,160 --> 02:37:41,120 Speaker 13: I would love for the listeners to be part of 2673 02:37:41,240 --> 02:37:43,280 Speaker 13: this class, but you will have to cain attact me 2674 02:37:43,360 --> 02:37:45,400 Speaker 13: in the next twenty four to forty eight hours to 2675 02:37:45,520 --> 02:37:47,600 Speaker 13: be part of the class, which will be on AI 2676 02:37:47,760 --> 02:37:52,200 Speaker 13: the President, Future of AI Digital Prison or Algormithic Freedom. 2677 02:37:52,240 --> 02:37:55,080 Speaker 13: So let me just give you my email. Sadiki Bacari 2678 02:37:55,280 --> 02:38:00,640 Speaker 13: is my name, Sadiki Sa d Iki e A k 2679 02:38:00,959 --> 02:38:05,440 Speaker 13: A r I Sadiki Bokari at hotmail dot com. So 2680 02:38:05,640 --> 02:38:07,080 Speaker 13: just email me and we'll take care of what we 2681 02:38:07,200 --> 02:38:09,199 Speaker 13: need to take care of as far as the class 2682 02:38:09,280 --> 02:38:12,520 Speaker 13: is concerned, and Sunday as well as the books, Nuclear 2683 02:38:12,600 --> 02:38:14,880 Speaker 13: Thought would be the book that that we're dealing with 2684 02:38:15,040 --> 02:38:17,960 Speaker 13: as far as AI, well, one of the books, but 2685 02:38:18,240 --> 02:38:21,000 Speaker 13: Nuclear Thought, So if you would like that book as well, 2686 02:38:21,160 --> 02:38:24,119 Speaker 13: just just email me. Okay, Carl, So where you want 2687 02:38:24,120 --> 02:38:24,600 Speaker 13: to go from here? 2688 02:38:25,040 --> 02:38:26,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna ask you about Elon Musk because 2689 02:38:26,680 --> 02:38:28,320 Speaker 1: you know he's one of the architects of going in 2690 02:38:28,600 --> 02:38:31,840 Speaker 1: on the in the futuristic area as well. He's sort 2691 02:38:31,879 --> 02:38:36,240 Speaker 1: of segueing from making cars. Tesla is dropping to the 2692 02:38:36,360 --> 02:38:39,000 Speaker 1: models already, and it's just as soon as a full 2693 02:38:39,080 --> 02:38:42,560 Speaker 1: self driving is there, he's done, and he's putting all 2694 02:38:42,600 --> 02:38:47,480 Speaker 1: the money's research into robots. Should we be concerned these 2695 02:38:47,560 --> 02:38:50,680 Speaker 1: gonna these robots are gonna take our jobs? What say you? 2696 02:38:52,520 --> 02:38:54,920 Speaker 13: Okay? First of all, Elon Musk, all of them are 2697 02:38:54,959 --> 02:38:58,720 Speaker 13: part of the olacarchy. The point is controlled opposition to 2698 02:38:58,800 --> 02:39:02,400 Speaker 13: make you think that these people are enemies. That's the programming, 2699 02:39:03,200 --> 02:39:05,600 Speaker 13: to make you think that these people are really enemies. 2700 02:39:05,800 --> 02:39:09,560 Speaker 13: But behind closed doors they shaking hands, diving up money 2701 02:39:09,879 --> 02:39:15,400 Speaker 13: while you are here stressing anxiety, depression, trauma, fear. So 2702 02:39:15,520 --> 02:39:17,840 Speaker 13: that's really what's going on. That's the real world all 2703 02:39:17,959 --> 02:39:21,200 Speaker 13: right now when we deal with AI as far as 2704 02:39:22,320 --> 02:39:26,080 Speaker 13: jobs or employment is concerned. So, as I stated earlier, 2705 02:39:27,080 --> 02:39:29,000 Speaker 13: first of all, this is an old conversation. Just so 2706 02:39:29,120 --> 02:39:34,119 Speaker 13: everybody understands this. I've made this clear for twenty years 2707 02:39:34,240 --> 02:39:37,000 Speaker 13: what would happen, And I showed the examples of it 2708 02:39:37,160 --> 02:39:40,880 Speaker 13: already happening as far back as fifteen years ago when 2709 02:39:40,920 --> 02:39:46,280 Speaker 13: they had the first McDonald's in Europe that primarily was 2710 02:39:46,400 --> 02:39:50,320 Speaker 13: all AI, no human employees, you know, taking the orders 2711 02:39:50,360 --> 02:39:56,640 Speaker 13: and those types of things. So it's not new. But again, 2712 02:39:58,320 --> 02:40:02,000 Speaker 13: when the media tells you that this is an issue 2713 02:40:02,520 --> 02:40:05,480 Speaker 13: or this is a problem, you're going to repeat that 2714 02:40:05,680 --> 02:40:08,800 Speaker 13: this is an issue or this is a problem. Right now, 2715 02:40:08,959 --> 02:40:12,760 Speaker 13: many of the jobs, not all, many of the jobs 2716 02:40:13,959 --> 02:40:17,960 Speaker 13: black people don't want anyway, So why is that an 2717 02:40:18,000 --> 02:40:23,279 Speaker 13: issue many of the jobs or people should have understood 2718 02:40:23,320 --> 02:40:30,280 Speaker 13: what already eventually phades out into technology driven jobs that 2719 02:40:30,320 --> 02:40:34,520 Speaker 13: wouldn't be done by humans anyway. It's people been paying 2720 02:40:34,560 --> 02:40:38,480 Speaker 13: attention because with robots, you don't have to deal with 2721 02:40:40,320 --> 02:40:42,360 Speaker 13: sick time, you don't have to deal with smoke breaks, 2722 02:40:42,400 --> 02:40:44,280 Speaker 13: you don't have to deal with attitudes, you don't have 2723 02:40:44,360 --> 02:40:46,080 Speaker 13: to deal with calling in sick, you don't have to 2724 02:40:46,160 --> 02:40:48,320 Speaker 13: deal with vacation time. You don't have to deal with 2725 02:40:48,440 --> 02:40:53,440 Speaker 13: those things. So these things should already make sense to 2726 02:40:53,520 --> 02:40:58,360 Speaker 13: people now in regards to the people who will lose 2727 02:40:58,520 --> 02:41:04,640 Speaker 13: jobs or being a situation with jobs, you a whole 2728 02:41:04,760 --> 02:41:10,080 Speaker 13: a dope. You don't have a vision, you don't have 2729 02:41:10,160 --> 02:41:12,640 Speaker 13: a purpose. Why are you here? What is it you 2730 02:41:12,800 --> 02:41:15,360 Speaker 13: love to do? That's what you're gonna be most successful 2731 02:41:15,400 --> 02:41:18,480 Speaker 13: out anyway. You got to put the work in, of course. 2732 02:41:18,720 --> 02:41:22,160 Speaker 13: But see this is the solution people don't want because 2733 02:41:22,200 --> 02:41:27,920 Speaker 13: again it's responsibility and accountability. So this is what it 2734 02:41:28,040 --> 02:41:32,320 Speaker 13: boils down to, people doing the work. You just want 2735 02:41:32,360 --> 02:41:34,440 Speaker 13: the government to give you something. Get the nipple out 2736 02:41:34,440 --> 02:41:37,560 Speaker 13: of your mouth. They don't have to give you nothing. 2737 02:41:39,240 --> 02:41:45,920 Speaker 13: That's the problem. All this entitlement quote unquote gods, they're 2738 02:41:46,000 --> 02:41:50,879 Speaker 13: not gonna have that entitlement. You're not gonna expect a system, 2739 02:41:51,000 --> 02:41:53,280 Speaker 13: a government, or a man to do something for you. 2740 02:41:54,520 --> 02:41:57,240 Speaker 13: You're gonna be prepared to be able to do it yourself. 2741 02:41:57,440 --> 02:42:01,120 Speaker 13: And for black women, let me say this. All that independence, 2742 02:42:01,680 --> 02:42:08,960 Speaker 13: all that following feminism, right, but you depending on the system. Now, 2743 02:42:09,600 --> 02:42:16,240 Speaker 13: you expect the system to do something for you. Remember 2744 02:42:16,959 --> 02:42:21,920 Speaker 13: as opposed to the black family in that unit will 2745 02:42:22,000 --> 02:42:26,760 Speaker 13: compromise that black family for success in the corporate ladder 2746 02:42:27,200 --> 02:42:32,240 Speaker 13: and being in their rooms with white men or the system, 2747 02:42:32,320 --> 02:42:34,520 Speaker 13: and all the things that it's done to separate black 2748 02:42:34,560 --> 02:42:39,680 Speaker 13: men and black women. All the black women online talking 2749 02:42:39,720 --> 02:42:44,880 Speaker 13: about immigrants, so called immigrants, those same black women I 2750 02:42:44,959 --> 02:42:48,320 Speaker 13: didn't hear saying nothing about police terrorism. And there's those 2751 02:42:48,400 --> 02:42:50,680 Speaker 13: who do Let me make that clear. So for those 2752 02:42:50,760 --> 02:42:53,560 Speaker 13: black women who are on point, thank you, We love you. 2753 02:42:54,480 --> 02:42:58,160 Speaker 13: Let me make that clear. Those black women who love 2754 02:42:58,240 --> 02:43:00,080 Speaker 13: black men in action, let me make that clear that 2755 02:43:00,160 --> 02:43:02,600 Speaker 13: we love you. Thank you. Let me make it clear. 2756 02:43:03,120 --> 02:43:05,840 Speaker 13: This is not an attack on black women, because we 2757 02:43:06,000 --> 02:43:09,400 Speaker 13: understand that there are some on point, but there are 2758 02:43:09,520 --> 02:43:14,160 Speaker 13: some who are part of the sayot and we're used 2759 02:43:15,120 --> 02:43:19,520 Speaker 13: to tear up this black family. Don't challenge me on it, 2760 02:43:19,760 --> 02:43:24,200 Speaker 13: please don't. So let's make that very clear. So we 2761 02:43:24,360 --> 02:43:29,240 Speaker 13: have to look in the mirror as a unit and 2762 02:43:29,360 --> 02:43:32,440 Speaker 13: really understand what's going on. There is a specific war 2763 02:43:32,560 --> 02:43:36,520 Speaker 13: on black men. There is a different type of war 2764 02:43:36,600 --> 02:43:39,640 Speaker 13: on black women, and then there's a different type of 2765 02:43:39,680 --> 02:43:43,920 Speaker 13: war on black children. But the main impetus of the 2766 02:43:44,000 --> 02:43:49,279 Speaker 13: war is on black men because black men are supposed 2767 02:43:49,320 --> 02:43:53,880 Speaker 13: to be the protectors. So how are you, as a 2768 02:43:53,920 --> 02:43:57,520 Speaker 13: black woman protected and the black children protected if the 2769 02:43:57,600 --> 02:44:01,480 Speaker 13: black men are no longer black men operating as black men. 2770 02:44:04,760 --> 02:44:07,520 Speaker 13: So stop looking at Trump, stop looking at the government, 2771 02:44:07,680 --> 02:44:09,320 Speaker 13: and we need to look in the mirror and look 2772 02:44:09,360 --> 02:44:12,040 Speaker 13: at ourselves. And we need to heal ourselves and do 2773 02:44:12,160 --> 02:44:14,240 Speaker 13: the things we need to do so we can get 2774 02:44:14,320 --> 02:44:17,480 Speaker 13: together to even be able to fight something outside of us. 2775 02:44:22,480 --> 02:44:24,640 Speaker 1: That's some real talk right there. Twenty seven after the 2776 02:44:24,720 --> 02:44:28,280 Speaker 1: top there, I know from Paul listening to us in London, 2777 02:44:28,360 --> 02:44:31,279 Speaker 1: he says, brother Sudeiki is absolutely on point. The colonial 2778 02:44:31,400 --> 02:44:35,360 Speaker 1: playbook has not changed. It's where the codes reside. It's 2779 02:44:35,440 --> 02:44:39,080 Speaker 1: the blueprint, and it's global. It's for every individual to 2780 02:44:39,240 --> 02:44:42,160 Speaker 1: overstand it in order to navigate it or even beat it. 2781 02:44:42,520 --> 02:44:45,920 Speaker 1: Says the problem is many are drunk and intoxicated with 2782 02:44:46,000 --> 02:44:50,000 Speaker 1: the fumes emanating from the people. Is burns and destroys 2783 02:44:50,080 --> 02:44:53,280 Speaker 1: in its path. Brother Sadiki says, it's global the issues 2784 02:44:53,280 --> 02:44:54,680 Speaker 1: that you're discussing your. 2785 02:44:54,560 --> 02:45:01,600 Speaker 13: Thoughts absolutely absolutely stop romanticizing and sensation lising quote unquote 2786 02:45:01,640 --> 02:45:06,240 Speaker 13: revolution and activism and organizing and all these different things. 2787 02:45:06,720 --> 02:45:11,520 Speaker 13: Please stop. It's not a game. It's not a game. 2788 02:45:12,600 --> 02:45:15,240 Speaker 13: Many of you would never step on out on that ledge. 2789 02:45:15,840 --> 02:45:18,880 Speaker 13: That's why you'll never go beyond saying we need to vote. 2790 02:45:20,120 --> 02:45:23,600 Speaker 13: That's why you'll never go beyond posting memes about Trump 2791 02:45:23,920 --> 02:45:29,280 Speaker 13: on Facebook or Instagram or Twitter. That's it. You will 2792 02:45:29,360 --> 02:45:32,039 Speaker 13: never go further than that. So get out the way 2793 02:45:32,120 --> 02:45:35,720 Speaker 13: of the people who are willing to get out the 2794 02:45:35,800 --> 02:45:39,720 Speaker 13: way of the people who really out here working. Allow 2795 02:45:39,800 --> 02:45:41,800 Speaker 13: them to work and get out the way instead of 2796 02:45:41,879 --> 02:45:46,000 Speaker 13: sabotaging them based on your ignorance, your fear, and your programming. 2797 02:45:46,720 --> 02:45:52,039 Speaker 13: Just get out the way. Be a casualty because right now, 2798 02:45:54,360 --> 02:45:56,360 Speaker 13: all the holding the hand back for people, we don't 2799 02:45:56,400 --> 02:45:56,920 Speaker 13: have time for that. 2800 02:45:58,160 --> 02:45:58,400 Speaker 16: Either. 2801 02:45:58,440 --> 02:46:01,560 Speaker 13: You ready, and you understand what's happening, and you understand 2802 02:46:01,640 --> 02:46:05,360 Speaker 13: the war that's taking place, and you understand that everything 2803 02:46:05,720 --> 02:46:14,600 Speaker 13: that's happening is military. Everything is military. Everything that's happening 2804 02:46:14,760 --> 02:46:17,800 Speaker 13: is war. Every time you cut on the TV, it's military. 2805 02:46:17,879 --> 02:46:20,280 Speaker 13: It is warfare. Every time you get on that Internet 2806 02:46:20,440 --> 02:46:24,440 Speaker 13: is military. It is warfare. Every time you dealing with 2807 02:46:24,520 --> 02:46:29,359 Speaker 13: the political system, it's warfare. It's military. The technology is warfare. 2808 02:46:29,640 --> 02:46:33,600 Speaker 13: It's military. Every time you use a technology, understand that 2809 02:46:33,680 --> 02:46:39,680 Speaker 13: technology is affecting you every time, it's warfare. It was 2810 02:46:39,800 --> 02:46:44,160 Speaker 13: created that way. The technology is created first and foremost 2811 02:46:44,440 --> 02:46:47,840 Speaker 13: as an act of war. It is for military. What 2812 02:46:47,959 --> 02:46:50,240 Speaker 13: do you think the first Internet, or at least we 2813 02:46:50,360 --> 02:46:53,320 Speaker 13: were told the first Internet in the fifties what it 2814 02:46:53,520 --> 02:47:00,880 Speaker 13: was for surveillance and counterintelligence. These are means for warfare. 2815 02:47:02,520 --> 02:47:07,959 Speaker 13: And now you yourself, you as a human, your being 2816 02:47:08,520 --> 02:47:15,720 Speaker 13: is being used as the impetus for warfare. I hope 2817 02:47:15,760 --> 02:47:21,039 Speaker 13: you'll understand what I just said. Your being, your energy, 2818 02:47:21,440 --> 02:47:27,600 Speaker 13: your frequency is being used as warfare against you. 2819 02:47:34,560 --> 02:47:36,160 Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this. Then let me put 2820 02:47:36,200 --> 02:47:38,040 Speaker 1: a different way. Twenty nine away from the top, there 2821 02:47:38,040 --> 02:47:41,360 Speaker 1: are how can we use how can we use AI 2822 02:47:41,560 --> 02:47:43,959 Speaker 1: official intelligence? How can we use it to help us? 2823 02:47:44,040 --> 02:47:46,480 Speaker 1: How can we use it to make our lives better? 2824 02:47:46,720 --> 02:47:49,440 Speaker 1: How can we use it to educate our youngsters? What 2825 02:47:49,560 --> 02:47:51,680 Speaker 1: are the benefits that we can take from it? Instead 2826 02:47:51,680 --> 02:47:54,120 Speaker 1: of looking at it on the outside, How can we 2827 02:47:54,240 --> 02:47:56,200 Speaker 1: get into it and make it benefit us? 2828 02:47:57,560 --> 02:48:04,000 Speaker 13: Okay, so I respect the question. So let me deal 2829 02:48:04,080 --> 02:48:10,480 Speaker 13: with that question in this manner. What is it that 2830 02:48:10,640 --> 02:48:17,560 Speaker 13: we can do with our archetypal intelligence, premordial intelligence to 2831 02:48:17,760 --> 02:48:22,920 Speaker 13: assist us? I might always keep it on the spiritual 2832 02:48:23,040 --> 02:48:27,000 Speaker 13: side or the spiritual essence of us. There is nothing 2833 02:48:27,160 --> 02:48:31,640 Speaker 13: AI can do that is more beneficial for us or 2834 02:48:31,760 --> 02:48:39,800 Speaker 13: our children than mastering our imagination or mastering our intuition. 2835 02:48:41,600 --> 02:48:46,439 Speaker 13: The greatest technology is the ability to create and manifest 2836 02:48:47,280 --> 02:48:51,400 Speaker 13: that is our imagination. The greatest technology is to be 2837 02:48:51,480 --> 02:48:54,879 Speaker 13: able to tap into past, present, and future in real time, 2838 02:48:54,959 --> 02:49:00,400 Speaker 13: not as intuition. Those are the technologies they are attempting 2839 02:49:00,480 --> 02:49:03,840 Speaker 13: to really tap into. That's the purpose of a quantum computer. 2840 02:49:04,920 --> 02:49:09,439 Speaker 13: It's attempting to mimic our imagination, excuse me, our intuition 2841 02:49:09,959 --> 02:49:13,160 Speaker 13: and the ability to deal with time, past, present, and 2842 02:49:13,280 --> 02:49:18,440 Speaker 13: future in real time sankofa even when you deal with 2843 02:49:18,560 --> 02:49:23,440 Speaker 13: exponential growth in regards to science and technology, exponential growth 2844 02:49:23,560 --> 02:49:26,720 Speaker 13: really is just the western whale of saying sankopha that's it. 2845 02:49:28,080 --> 02:49:32,000 Speaker 13: You know, based on the past, what that technology, how 2846 02:49:32,080 --> 02:49:33,960 Speaker 13: it are meant, or where it's going to be in 2847 02:49:34,120 --> 02:49:37,840 Speaker 13: thirty years, thirty years later, and then thirty years later, 2848 02:49:37,959 --> 02:49:41,000 Speaker 13: you know where it's going to be in another thirty 2849 02:49:41,040 --> 02:49:43,360 Speaker 13: years because of where it was sixty years ago and 2850 02:49:43,560 --> 02:49:50,560 Speaker 13: thirty years ago. Exponential growth sankofa past, present future. So 2851 02:49:50,920 --> 02:49:54,960 Speaker 13: all we have to do is go back to the 2852 02:49:55,240 --> 02:50:01,200 Speaker 13: essence of who and what we are and begin to 2853 02:50:01,920 --> 02:50:06,880 Speaker 13: teach and live that again. Teach our children that right now, 2854 02:50:06,920 --> 02:50:10,920 Speaker 13: as far as AI I know, society is consumed with it. 2855 02:50:11,840 --> 02:50:16,320 Speaker 13: So as far as AI AI is something that should 2856 02:50:16,360 --> 02:50:22,320 Speaker 13: never consume us, I never tell people not to use it. 2857 02:50:22,400 --> 02:50:24,840 Speaker 13: I'm just gonna let you know, look, these gonna be 2858 02:50:24,879 --> 02:50:28,920 Speaker 13: the issues if you abuse it. These are the issues 2859 02:50:29,000 --> 02:50:32,760 Speaker 13: if you begin to edify it and deify it. These 2860 02:50:32,800 --> 02:50:35,480 Speaker 13: are the issues when you begin to make it your 2861 02:50:35,600 --> 02:50:38,800 Speaker 13: brain as opposed to understanding you are the brain, which 2862 02:50:38,879 --> 02:50:43,280 Speaker 13: is what the caller was talking about. So that's kind 2863 02:50:43,320 --> 02:50:46,760 Speaker 13: of how I deal with that, right, And of course, 2864 02:50:47,080 --> 02:50:51,119 Speaker 13: sure we're doing this because of technology, so obviously it's 2865 02:50:51,200 --> 02:50:57,560 Speaker 13: some benefits, obviously, but I'm not talking about these minor things. 2866 02:50:57,640 --> 02:51:01,960 Speaker 13: I'm talking about the things that make us quote unquote gods, 2867 02:51:02,200 --> 02:51:05,320 Speaker 13: the things that make us divinity, the things that make 2868 02:51:05,440 --> 02:51:09,080 Speaker 13: us our intrinsic essence, The reasons that we have been 2869 02:51:09,160 --> 02:51:11,760 Speaker 13: here for thousands and tens of thousands and hundreds of 2870 02:51:11,840 --> 02:51:14,800 Speaker 13: thousands and millions of years and whatever other amount of 2871 02:51:14,879 --> 02:51:17,160 Speaker 13: time that we've been here, the reason that we have, 2872 02:51:17,840 --> 02:51:20,320 Speaker 13: the ancestors that we have, the reasons that we have 2873 02:51:20,480 --> 02:51:25,160 Speaker 13: a Black History Week that became a month, and the 2874 02:51:25,280 --> 02:51:28,920 Speaker 13: reasons that we should be doing this every day, first 2875 02:51:28,920 --> 02:51:31,560 Speaker 13: of all, but the reasons that you know we have 2876 02:51:31,840 --> 02:51:38,800 Speaker 13: those geniuses, those artists, those revolutionaries, those scientists, right, those 2877 02:51:38,840 --> 02:51:43,080 Speaker 13: spiritualists are the people that we are giving reverence to, 2878 02:51:43,560 --> 02:51:49,720 Speaker 13: an honor to. We're those people. But it's the spiritual 2879 02:51:49,800 --> 02:51:55,119 Speaker 13: technology in how we tap into that, AI is used 2880 02:51:55,200 --> 02:51:59,880 Speaker 13: to pull us away from that, not only just here 2881 02:52:00,120 --> 02:52:03,000 Speaker 13: in the physical world, but even beyond the physical world. 2882 02:52:03,040 --> 02:52:05,840 Speaker 13: When we start talking about the spiritual world and the 2883 02:52:05,920 --> 02:52:10,360 Speaker 13: ancestral world, they want to control that too. And this 2884 02:52:10,520 --> 02:52:14,560 Speaker 13: is what people don't understand. That's the posthumanism side of it. 2885 02:52:14,840 --> 02:52:17,360 Speaker 13: So when you're no longer in human form, they want 2886 02:52:17,360 --> 02:52:23,920 Speaker 13: to control you in that form too through technology. That's 2887 02:52:23,959 --> 02:52:27,800 Speaker 13: the reason for the portals and stargates that I talked about, 2888 02:52:28,879 --> 02:52:31,320 Speaker 13: the virtual world and you having a digital twin and 2889 02:52:31,360 --> 02:52:33,640 Speaker 13: all these different things, and you being a mind fiul 2890 02:52:33,840 --> 02:52:39,760 Speaker 13: or mind portfolio, and creating the software for artificial brains, 2891 02:52:39,800 --> 02:52:43,800 Speaker 13: and all these other different things that these people have 2892 02:52:44,000 --> 02:52:44,400 Speaker 13: on deck. 2893 02:52:48,800 --> 02:52:50,640 Speaker 1: All right, I got another tweet question for you. A 2894 02:52:50,680 --> 02:52:53,160 Speaker 1: tweetter says brother Sindiki, Can you explain that we do 2895 02:52:53,320 --> 02:52:56,520 Speaker 1: not hear in privacy email in our homes, there is 2896 02:52:56,560 --> 02:52:59,000 Speaker 1: a smart box that keeps count of the times when 2897 02:52:59,040 --> 02:53:02,280 Speaker 1: you flush our toilet. The ring boxes are recording everyone 2898 02:53:03,200 --> 02:53:08,000 Speaker 1: and all our conversations. Alexa Alexa as also has actually 2899 02:53:08,200 --> 02:53:12,720 Speaker 1: called the police on folks in their homes having private conversations. 2900 02:53:13,320 --> 02:53:16,000 Speaker 1: We take walks and your we are recording it. They 2901 02:53:16,080 --> 02:53:17,880 Speaker 1: want you to explain that it Are we under that 2902 02:53:18,040 --> 02:53:18,959 Speaker 1: much surveillance? 2903 02:53:20,000 --> 02:53:24,600 Speaker 13: Yes, there's nothing to explain. Yes, yes we are see 2904 02:53:24,959 --> 02:53:30,720 Speaker 13: this And this is the reason this is not even 2905 02:53:30,800 --> 02:53:34,560 Speaker 13: getting into the smart cities and things of that nature. 2906 02:53:35,080 --> 02:53:39,520 Speaker 13: So if it's already that type of surveillance and intelligence, 2907 02:53:39,959 --> 02:53:41,840 Speaker 13: what is it going to look like with a smart city? 2908 02:53:42,040 --> 02:53:45,600 Speaker 13: In a smart city? See, people don't understand if I 2909 02:53:47,920 --> 02:53:50,160 Speaker 13: I need the listeners to understand. It's things that I 2910 02:53:50,400 --> 02:53:54,720 Speaker 13: won't communicate to you because I understand it may cause 2911 02:53:55,000 --> 02:53:59,600 Speaker 13: psychological damage to you or emotional damage to you. You 2912 02:53:59,760 --> 02:54:05,199 Speaker 13: can fathom what these people in this government are doing. 2913 02:54:06,800 --> 02:54:10,360 Speaker 13: Understand what I'm saying. It's things that I don't talk 2914 02:54:10,440 --> 02:54:15,080 Speaker 13: about because I know it would damage you. You understand 2915 02:54:15,120 --> 02:54:18,800 Speaker 13: that it's things that I don't write about because I 2916 02:54:18,920 --> 02:54:22,520 Speaker 13: know it would damage the reader. That's how serious this is. 2917 02:54:24,320 --> 02:54:27,760 Speaker 13: If you know this, Carl, I never really talk about 2918 02:54:27,840 --> 02:54:34,039 Speaker 13: the psycho sexual side of this AI thing on our conversations. 2919 02:54:35,040 --> 02:54:39,000 Speaker 13: That rabbit hole is so deep. People have no clue 2920 02:54:39,080 --> 02:54:44,959 Speaker 13: and no idea how these people think and what's coming. 2921 02:54:47,240 --> 02:54:48,879 Speaker 1: And hold the thought right, then we gotta step aside 2922 02:54:48,879 --> 02:54:50,840 Speaker 1: for a few bow andes. If you can expand on that, 2923 02:54:50,920 --> 02:54:52,960 Speaker 1: I appreciate it as well, and also tell us more 2924 02:54:52,959 --> 02:54:55,600 Speaker 1: about the events you're having this weekend, twenty two minutes 2925 02:54:55,600 --> 02:54:57,480 Speaker 1: away from the top day our family. I guess there's 2926 02:54:57,520 --> 02:55:01,160 Speaker 1: a futuristic researcher, brother Sadeka Bacari, got a question for him. 2927 02:55:01,200 --> 02:55:03,600 Speaker 1: Reach out to us at eight hundred four five zero 2928 02:55:04,120 --> 02:55:06,800 Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls 2929 02:55:07,040 --> 02:55:09,680 Speaker 1: next and Grand Rising family, thanks for staying around with 2930 02:55:09,760 --> 02:55:12,760 Speaker 1: us on this Monday morning, a second day of February 2931 02:55:13,280 --> 02:55:16,360 Speaker 1: Black History Month, the one hundredth anniversary of Black History Month. 2932 02:55:16,720 --> 02:55:19,680 Speaker 1: I guess there's brother Sadeka Bakari is a futuristic researcher. 2933 02:55:19,720 --> 02:55:21,800 Speaker 1: This is what he does, looks in the future, tells 2934 02:55:21,879 --> 02:55:24,000 Speaker 1: all what's going on, and predicts what's going on, especially 2935 02:55:24,000 --> 02:55:28,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to AI artificial intelligence. Qui is joined 2936 02:55:28,240 --> 02:55:30,920 Speaker 1: us from Baltimore has a question online too, Grand Rising, 2937 02:55:31,000 --> 02:55:33,520 Speaker 1: QUI your question for brother CIDEK. 2938 02:55:35,520 --> 02:55:41,080 Speaker 10: Yes, good morning, sir, I am really delighted to I 2939 02:55:41,120 --> 02:55:43,680 Speaker 10: don't know if you can hear me. I'm sorry, yes, 2940 02:55:43,760 --> 02:55:44,400 Speaker 10: well I can hear you. 2941 02:55:44,480 --> 02:55:45,360 Speaker 13: I was just I agreed. 2942 02:55:47,040 --> 02:55:47,640 Speaker 16: Oh, thank you. 2943 02:55:48,879 --> 02:55:53,880 Speaker 10: I was delighted to hear when I turned it on 2944 02:55:55,040 --> 02:56:01,680 Speaker 10: the station to hear your analysis. But what I picked 2945 02:56:01,800 --> 02:56:08,320 Speaker 10: up on is that you are doing a basic analysis 2946 02:56:08,800 --> 02:56:14,160 Speaker 10: that an educated person does with any information. The problem 2947 02:56:14,240 --> 02:56:17,880 Speaker 10: for the black community is that that analysis is not 2948 02:56:19,560 --> 02:56:23,960 Speaker 10: It's not there for most people because when you go 2949 02:56:24,120 --> 02:56:29,400 Speaker 10: into any almost any school where the majority of students 2950 02:56:29,840 --> 02:56:32,960 Speaker 10: are African American, you're going to find chaos in the classroom. 2951 02:56:32,959 --> 02:56:34,480 Speaker 10: You're going to find chaos. 2952 02:56:35,120 --> 02:56:40,800 Speaker 16: All day long. And this why this exists. 2953 02:56:42,879 --> 02:56:43,400 Speaker 13: Is ignored. 2954 02:56:43,720 --> 02:56:46,119 Speaker 10: Well, I'm not going to say why it exists. It's racism, 2955 02:56:46,320 --> 02:56:50,320 Speaker 10: it's a lot of social ills. But kids are coming 2956 02:56:50,400 --> 02:56:54,560 Speaker 10: out of school not reading analytically, not reading critically, not 2957 02:56:54,720 --> 02:56:59,560 Speaker 10: reading the classics, and so now we have something that 2958 02:57:00,160 --> 02:57:03,760 Speaker 10: poses information on people and they don't have any critical 2959 02:57:03,879 --> 02:57:08,840 Speaker 10: ability to question it. We are a prime as a community, 2960 02:57:09,320 --> 02:57:10,920 Speaker 10: a prime target for this. 2961 02:57:11,040 --> 02:57:19,520 Speaker 13: AI Okay, okay, so this is partially true what he's saying. 2962 02:57:19,600 --> 02:57:24,880 Speaker 13: Now let me let's go a little further into that. So, 2963 02:57:25,040 --> 02:57:28,000 Speaker 13: first of all, the educational system itself is a problem. 2964 02:57:28,440 --> 02:57:32,119 Speaker 13: That's number one. Number two, the educational system is based 2965 02:57:32,160 --> 02:57:37,039 Speaker 13: off of a preceeding educational system which is Nazi connected. 2966 02:57:37,120 --> 02:57:37,760 Speaker 13: That's number two. 2967 02:57:38,760 --> 02:57:40,200 Speaker 16: So this is what the. 2968 02:57:41,720 --> 02:57:45,680 Speaker 13: Environment that our children are being put in in regards 2969 02:57:45,720 --> 02:57:49,680 Speaker 13: to education. So obviously not everyone can homeschool and things 2970 02:57:49,720 --> 02:57:51,920 Speaker 13: of that nature, but this is when we get to 2971 02:57:52,000 --> 02:57:55,080 Speaker 13: the point of understanding. We have to educate our own children, 2972 02:57:55,400 --> 02:57:59,920 Speaker 13: whether that's through homeschooling with parents who have the ability 2973 02:58:00,440 --> 02:58:02,800 Speaker 13: to teach critical thinking and all the different things that 2974 02:58:02,920 --> 02:58:08,120 Speaker 13: this man is talking about, as well as our African 2975 02:58:08,200 --> 02:58:14,200 Speaker 13: liberation school so to speak, or African centered schools. So 2976 02:58:14,440 --> 02:58:17,400 Speaker 13: these are primary things that we're going to have to do. 2977 02:58:17,640 --> 02:58:22,680 Speaker 13: So again it comes back to responsibility and accountability. All right. Now, 2978 02:58:22,760 --> 02:58:24,440 Speaker 13: let me make this clear. This is one thing I 2979 02:58:24,520 --> 02:58:28,600 Speaker 13: will never do. I'm going to be on our people, 2980 02:58:28,760 --> 02:58:32,560 Speaker 13: but be very clear, I'm never going to admit omit, 2981 02:58:32,600 --> 02:58:41,199 Speaker 13: excuse me, omits the systematic, the intentional, deliberate, systematic things 2982 02:58:42,320 --> 02:58:45,560 Speaker 13: that we are dealing with as a people that causes 2983 02:58:46,520 --> 02:58:49,480 Speaker 13: the different type of syndromes and things that I've been 2984 02:58:49,520 --> 02:58:51,960 Speaker 13: talking about the programming and all of those different things 2985 02:58:52,720 --> 02:58:56,119 Speaker 13: throughout this show and many other times that I've been 2986 02:58:56,160 --> 02:59:00,520 Speaker 13: on this show. All Right, So again, it's a lot 2987 02:59:00,640 --> 02:59:04,800 Speaker 13: that we have to deal with but primarily all of 2988 02:59:04,920 --> 02:59:10,960 Speaker 13: it is always pointing back to programming period at the 2989 02:59:11,120 --> 02:59:14,720 Speaker 13: end of the day. And one thing's for sure, our 2990 02:59:14,800 --> 02:59:20,800 Speaker 13: people are not just critical, empirical, analytical type of thinkers. 2991 02:59:22,040 --> 02:59:26,320 Speaker 13: We also are genius in many other ways. We're genius in. 2992 02:59:26,400 --> 02:59:30,800 Speaker 16: Ways of energy. 2993 02:59:33,040 --> 02:59:36,960 Speaker 13: So we may not always understand a message in regards 2994 02:59:37,040 --> 02:59:41,240 Speaker 13: to what is being said from a critical perspective, but 2995 02:59:41,400 --> 02:59:45,959 Speaker 13: we oftentimes can understand that message from an energetic perspective, 2996 02:59:46,480 --> 02:59:50,520 Speaker 13: and that energetic perspective oftentimes will lead us where it 2997 02:59:50,680 --> 02:59:53,000 Speaker 13: needs to lead us, because at the end of the day, 2998 02:59:53,040 --> 02:59:56,880 Speaker 13: we all get there. Sometimes there's many different directions in 2999 02:59:56,959 --> 02:59:59,119 Speaker 13: how we get there, as long as we get there 3000 02:59:59,160 --> 03:00:00,959 Speaker 13: and everyone is not going to get there, that's one 3001 03:00:01,000 --> 03:00:03,520 Speaker 13: thing I'm very clear about. And as far as the 3002 03:00:03,640 --> 03:00:07,240 Speaker 13: educational system, I understand the traps of the educational system 3003 03:00:07,320 --> 03:00:09,880 Speaker 13: because I went to public school, I went to private school, 3004 03:00:10,080 --> 03:00:12,160 Speaker 13: I went to a lot of different types of schools, 3005 03:00:12,200 --> 03:00:14,560 Speaker 13: so I know exactly how those systems. 3006 03:00:14,480 --> 03:00:15,119 Speaker 16: Are being ran. 3007 03:00:15,840 --> 03:00:18,160 Speaker 13: And the best thing for us, to be totally honest 3008 03:00:19,680 --> 03:00:25,840 Speaker 13: is independent education. Period. The most I've learned outside of school, 3009 03:00:25,920 --> 03:00:29,760 Speaker 13: the university and all of it is independent education because 3010 03:00:29,800 --> 03:00:35,440 Speaker 13: it's not controlled. So that's pretty much what I have 3011 03:00:35,560 --> 03:00:36,000 Speaker 13: to say to that. 3012 03:00:40,160 --> 03:00:42,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, brother, c let me answer this question. Why some 3013 03:00:42,640 --> 03:00:44,840 Speaker 1: of us they have some people in our committee have 3014 03:00:44,959 --> 03:00:48,440 Speaker 1: made it and some have not. And the majority of 3015 03:00:48,520 --> 03:00:49,960 Speaker 1: us quote unquote whatever that is? 3016 03:00:51,760 --> 03:00:51,880 Speaker 13: Why? 3017 03:00:52,320 --> 03:00:52,840 Speaker 1: Why is that? 3018 03:00:54,080 --> 03:00:56,240 Speaker 13: So the further you go, the more oriented you are. 3019 03:00:58,160 --> 03:01:01,400 Speaker 13: People don't like to admit this. The further you go, 3020 03:01:02,120 --> 03:01:06,520 Speaker 13: the more oriented you are into that system. That's just 3021 03:01:06,600 --> 03:01:11,920 Speaker 13: what it is. We see it every day. Look at 3022 03:01:11,920 --> 03:01:19,040 Speaker 13: the politicians, we see it every day. The majority of them. 3023 03:01:19,600 --> 03:01:22,800 Speaker 13: I'm not going to say all, but the majority for sure. 3024 03:01:22,920 --> 03:01:24,960 Speaker 13: And no one can deny that most of them bought 3025 03:01:25,000 --> 03:01:28,039 Speaker 13: out anyway by Jewish interest anyway, I pack and all 3026 03:01:28,080 --> 03:01:30,360 Speaker 13: of that. So, I mean, those are all things that 3027 03:01:30,440 --> 03:01:33,039 Speaker 13: people can easily document. I had a documentation, So most 3028 03:01:33,080 --> 03:01:35,200 Speaker 13: of them are already bought and paid for anyway in 3029 03:01:35,280 --> 03:01:37,360 Speaker 13: regards to politics. And then when you deal with the 3030 03:01:37,520 --> 03:01:39,920 Speaker 13: educational system and the elitism and all the things that 3031 03:01:40,000 --> 03:01:45,120 Speaker 13: come with that, like to a degree, you have to 3032 03:01:46,480 --> 03:01:51,600 Speaker 13: make a concession in regards to your people. You can't 3033 03:01:51,720 --> 03:01:56,600 Speaker 13: keep climbing that ladder and not do that. That's just 3034 03:01:56,680 --> 03:01:59,360 Speaker 13: the reality. And I'm not telling people not to get 3035 03:01:59,440 --> 03:02:01,840 Speaker 13: your degree or not do whatever it is that you 3036 03:02:02,000 --> 03:02:03,960 Speaker 13: feel like you need to do. This is just the 3037 03:02:04,040 --> 03:02:09,480 Speaker 13: reality of the matter. At some point you're gonna have 3038 03:02:09,600 --> 03:02:14,880 Speaker 13: to deal with that question or that reality because they'll 3039 03:02:15,000 --> 03:02:19,400 Speaker 13: never trust you, and they probably still don't trust you 3040 03:02:19,480 --> 03:02:22,279 Speaker 13: even when you sacrifice whatever it is that you sacrifice 3041 03:02:23,040 --> 03:02:23,600 Speaker 13: to get there. 3042 03:02:26,200 --> 03:02:27,199 Speaker 16: That's just the reality. 3043 03:02:27,800 --> 03:02:30,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and awe forgressions general erasing the clock, Twitter says, 3044 03:02:30,920 --> 03:02:33,680 Speaker 1: please ask their brother why are we as black people 3045 03:02:33,720 --> 03:02:35,560 Speaker 1: so afraid to create our own system? 3046 03:02:38,800 --> 03:02:45,400 Speaker 13: I mean, while we're afraid. Yeah, fear programming, trauma programming, 3047 03:02:46,200 --> 03:02:52,280 Speaker 13: self sabotaged, low self esteem, lack of confidence, insecurities, all 3048 03:02:52,400 --> 03:02:56,280 Speaker 13: of those things come with the psychological operations and all 3049 03:02:56,320 --> 03:02:59,160 Speaker 13: the programming that I mentioned. This is why people need 3050 03:02:59,280 --> 03:03:04,200 Speaker 13: to be deprogrammed in reprogrammed, including the people who have 3051 03:03:04,520 --> 03:03:08,760 Speaker 13: all of these degrees and PhDs and two hundred and 3052 03:03:08,879 --> 03:03:11,800 Speaker 13: fifty thousand dollars a year jobs or whatever, they have 3053 03:03:12,160 --> 03:03:15,440 Speaker 13: careers and all these different things. They need deprogramming and 3054 03:03:15,520 --> 03:03:20,760 Speaker 13: reprogramming probably more than anybody else. So that's what our 3055 03:03:20,840 --> 03:03:25,440 Speaker 13: people need is to be deprogrammed and reprogrammed, period, all 3056 03:03:25,520 --> 03:03:28,400 Speaker 13: of us. No one is exempt. I don't care how 3057 03:03:28,520 --> 03:03:31,280 Speaker 13: much you think, you know, all of us need to 3058 03:03:31,400 --> 03:03:35,520 Speaker 13: be deprogrammed and reprogrammed period. If you are in this system, 3059 03:03:35,840 --> 03:03:39,600 Speaker 13: you are exposed to this system. If you have watched television, 3060 03:03:39,920 --> 03:03:42,520 Speaker 13: if you are on the internets, if you are dealing 3061 03:03:42,600 --> 03:03:46,720 Speaker 13: with politics, whatever you're dealing with in this system, you 3062 03:03:46,879 --> 03:03:51,320 Speaker 13: need to be deprogrammed in reprogrammed period. And again that's 3063 03:03:51,360 --> 03:03:54,000 Speaker 13: what I do every day. I assist people to do that. 3064 03:03:55,000 --> 03:03:58,400 Speaker 13: People consult with me. This is what I do. So 3065 03:03:58,480 --> 03:04:00,840 Speaker 13: I'm not just talking. I'm not on here just talking. 3066 03:04:01,200 --> 03:04:05,120 Speaker 13: This is my life. I assist people every day, Monday 3067 03:04:05,160 --> 03:04:10,760 Speaker 13: through Friday, to deprogram and reprogram themselves, to to transform themselves, 3068 03:04:11,040 --> 03:04:14,560 Speaker 13: to go through this this notion of alchemy, right to 3069 03:04:14,720 --> 03:04:17,800 Speaker 13: get more into their spiritual self and their divinity, to 3070 03:04:18,240 --> 03:04:22,080 Speaker 13: hit their goals, to to hit their visions and things 3071 03:04:22,120 --> 03:04:25,680 Speaker 13: of that nature. To tap into intuition, to tap into imagination, 3072 03:04:25,840 --> 03:04:29,000 Speaker 13: to deal with their subconscious mind, essential nervous system. There 3073 03:04:29,120 --> 03:04:31,279 Speaker 13: may do a lot of Olympic systems, all these different 3074 03:04:31,320 --> 03:04:34,480 Speaker 13: things that we need to deal with. I do this 3075 03:04:34,680 --> 03:04:35,680 Speaker 13: Monday through Friday. 3076 03:04:38,400 --> 03:04:40,160 Speaker 1: But you know what, brother Sadiki, you never told us, 3077 03:04:40,200 --> 03:04:43,760 Speaker 1: why why did you decide to do this? Why, as 3078 03:04:43,800 --> 03:04:45,879 Speaker 1: I say, what is your Why is this your slice 3079 03:04:45,920 --> 03:04:46,240 Speaker 1: of the pie? 3080 03:04:46,320 --> 03:04:46,360 Speaker 12: What? 3081 03:04:46,600 --> 03:04:48,280 Speaker 1: What made you a train of doing this? 3082 03:04:49,160 --> 03:04:54,880 Speaker 13: I've done. I've I've been doing activism and organizing for decades. Okay, 3083 03:04:55,560 --> 03:04:59,199 Speaker 13: I've done been in the organizations, I've been in those rooms, 3084 03:04:59,520 --> 03:05:02,320 Speaker 13: I've done all of those different things. I kept running 3085 03:05:02,360 --> 03:05:05,039 Speaker 13: into the same thing. And now, don't get me wrong, 3086 03:05:05,120 --> 03:05:11,520 Speaker 13: I respect the real organizers, the real activists, I respect them. 3087 03:05:11,600 --> 03:05:14,680 Speaker 13: I have nothing but respect for them. But what I 3088 03:05:14,840 --> 03:05:18,880 Speaker 13: kept running into was this need to be healed, and 3089 03:05:19,000 --> 03:05:22,400 Speaker 13: it kept getting in the way. We have to heal 3090 03:05:23,000 --> 03:05:24,560 Speaker 13: at the end of the day, we have to deal 3091 03:05:24,600 --> 03:05:27,040 Speaker 13: with that. That's what's in the way because all the 3092 03:05:27,160 --> 03:05:32,480 Speaker 13: things I just mentioned is healing related. It's all healing related. 3093 03:05:33,280 --> 03:05:38,080 Speaker 13: That's the difference. That's the difference. So that's the reason 3094 03:05:38,480 --> 03:05:41,200 Speaker 13: I was like, okay, And of course I had to 3095 03:05:41,240 --> 03:05:44,640 Speaker 13: do the work myself. Obviously. Then it's like, let me 3096 03:05:44,680 --> 03:05:47,760 Speaker 13: put a program together to assist people to be able 3097 03:05:48,400 --> 03:05:51,600 Speaker 13: to do it. So after the studying, after the research, 3098 03:05:51,640 --> 03:05:54,320 Speaker 13: and after the experience and all this stuff myself and 3099 03:05:54,400 --> 03:05:57,800 Speaker 13: then putting things together and understanding these are the things 3100 03:05:57,840 --> 03:06:00,040 Speaker 13: that we keep dealing with over and over again and 3101 03:06:00,120 --> 03:06:02,040 Speaker 13: across the board. What do we need to do in 3102 03:06:02,240 --> 03:06:05,600 Speaker 13: order to deal with these things? Right? Programming, Well, what 3103 03:06:05,680 --> 03:06:08,040 Speaker 13: does that really mean? So I have to do all 3104 03:06:08,080 --> 03:06:10,040 Speaker 13: of that, do all the work on that, and the 3105 03:06:10,120 --> 03:06:13,400 Speaker 13: knowledge and the research to understand what that meant. So 3106 03:06:13,520 --> 03:06:16,039 Speaker 13: how does that affect our body? When we say programming, 3107 03:06:16,120 --> 03:06:18,720 Speaker 13: what are we really saying? So we have to deal 3108 03:06:18,760 --> 03:06:20,440 Speaker 13: with a subconscious mind, we have to deal with the 3109 03:06:20,520 --> 03:06:24,440 Speaker 13: central nervous system, we have to deal with the neurological self, 3110 03:06:24,680 --> 03:06:27,560 Speaker 13: we have to deal with our thoughts. All these things 3111 03:06:27,640 --> 03:06:29,600 Speaker 13: we have to deal with. So how do we do it? 3112 03:06:30,440 --> 03:06:33,280 Speaker 13: So I put the program together years ago to deal 3113 03:06:33,360 --> 03:06:38,039 Speaker 13: with all of those questions, and it works. All people 3114 03:06:38,160 --> 03:06:42,640 Speaker 13: have to do is do it. That's it. It works 3115 03:06:42,760 --> 03:06:46,800 Speaker 13: over and over and over again. And especially for our people, 3116 03:06:46,879 --> 03:06:50,200 Speaker 13: we have certain things that's unique to us that we 3117 03:06:50,320 --> 03:06:53,640 Speaker 13: have to deal with. You're not going to get that. 3118 03:06:54,280 --> 03:06:56,120 Speaker 13: You're not going to get that dealing with white folks 3119 03:06:56,320 --> 03:06:58,240 Speaker 13: and whomever else. You're not going to get that dealing 3120 03:06:58,320 --> 03:07:01,000 Speaker 13: with them. They don't. You're not going to get that 3121 03:07:01,120 --> 03:07:03,840 Speaker 13: from them, all right. So that's what kind of led 3122 03:07:03,920 --> 03:07:08,280 Speaker 13: me and got me into that aspect of it, because 3123 03:07:08,320 --> 03:07:10,560 Speaker 13: at some point you got to stop talking and you 3124 03:07:10,640 --> 03:07:14,200 Speaker 13: got to start doing. It's that simple. It's a lot 3125 03:07:14,240 --> 03:07:16,040 Speaker 13: of big talk, but it's not a whole lot of 3126 03:07:16,480 --> 03:07:18,240 Speaker 13: doing to match that big talk. 3127 03:07:19,600 --> 03:07:22,320 Speaker 1: So that's where we are, and tell us before we 3128 03:07:22,440 --> 03:07:24,440 Speaker 1: let you go, because you're having an advent to help 3129 03:07:24,480 --> 03:07:27,360 Speaker 1: other fulks to reach that level that you're at. How 3130 03:07:27,400 --> 03:07:28,279 Speaker 1: can they get involved? 3131 03:07:29,240 --> 03:07:31,880 Speaker 13: Yeah, so this is for Sunday, which is the AI class. 3132 03:07:31,920 --> 03:07:34,240 Speaker 13: So that's going to focus more on AI and the 3133 03:07:34,360 --> 03:07:37,160 Speaker 13: many different aspects of technology and all of that. So 3134 03:07:37,280 --> 03:07:39,280 Speaker 13: that's for that that Sunday. You need to contact me 3135 03:07:39,400 --> 03:07:41,879 Speaker 13: asap for that one on ones. That's how we deal 3136 03:07:41,959 --> 03:07:44,360 Speaker 13: with a lot of what we talked about today is 3137 03:07:44,400 --> 03:07:46,120 Speaker 13: the one on ones. You can email me for that, 3138 03:07:46,800 --> 03:07:51,320 Speaker 13: Sadiq Bakari. My name say d I k I b 3139 03:07:51,560 --> 03:07:56,200 Speaker 13: A k A r I Sadiq Bukari at hotmail dot com. 3140 03:07:56,800 --> 03:07:59,840 Speaker 13: Also I'm on Instagram and Facebook, so you can contact 3141 03:07:59,840 --> 03:08:03,160 Speaker 13: me there same name, Sadeki Bikari. So that's what you're 3142 03:08:03,200 --> 03:08:07,240 Speaker 13: contacting me for the class Sunday one on ones or 3143 03:08:07,360 --> 03:08:09,760 Speaker 13: the books as well, the Nuclear Thought Book or whatever 3144 03:08:09,920 --> 03:08:11,200 Speaker 13: other of the mini books I have. 3145 03:08:12,440 --> 03:08:14,600 Speaker 1: All right, Thank you brother Sadeki, thank you for sharing 3146 03:08:14,640 --> 03:08:15,760 Speaker 1: your thoughts for us this morning. 3147 03:08:16,800 --> 03:08:19,360 Speaker 13: Thank you, Carl, appreciate you and everybody out here doing 3148 03:08:19,440 --> 03:08:21,440 Speaker 13: work all right, family, that's. 3149 03:08:21,320 --> 03:08:24,680 Speaker 1: It for the day. Class is over. Classes dismissed. Stay strong, 3150 03:08:24,800 --> 03:08:27,840 Speaker 1: stay positive, stay warm, please stay healthy. We'll see you 3151 03:08:27,840 --> 03:08:31,080 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, six o'clock right here in Baltimore on ten 3152 03:08:31,200 --> 03:08:35,000 Speaker 1: ten WLB and fourteen fifty WOL