1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel show. Yeah, taking 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,359 Speaker 1: it out on the road Great Lakes Honda in Fishers 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: were just off thirty seven and Britain Park Road. My 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: name is Nigel, Jason Hammer sitting right next to me 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: with a very special guest on the hotline. 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: A gentlemen we've had on this program before and certainly 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: no stranger to residents here in Central Indie. Mark Lotter, 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: co host of NEWSMAX Wake Up America weekday mornings, also 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: worked with the Trump Pence administration. Mark my man, how 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: are you. 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 3: I'm doing great. You know, it's March madness and I'm 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: not in Indiana, so that hurts me. But I am 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 3: watching all of the games on giant screen TVs as 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: we speak. 15 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, We've got them on the big screen here 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: as well. We're on the road today. Let's kind of 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: get caught up in some of the headlines of the 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: day for those who have maybe just been focusing on 19 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: basketball and haven't turned the news on here. Was Donald 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: Trump right to call out Israel in that post on 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: truth Social last night? And is he right to call 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: out the rest of the free world for not really 23 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: helping too much in this war in Iran. 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 3: I think on both counts, yes, for two reasons. Number one, 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 3: when it comes to how you deal with the war 26 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: with Iran, there's always a thin line, and it's a 27 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 3: very thin line. We've had a number of military experts 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: on our show over the last couple of weeks talking 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: about do you decimate the entire country? Because obviously we 30 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: can annihilate the entire country, but how do they rebuild? 31 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 3: So you want to take out their military, You want 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: to take out their ability to project force, you want 33 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: to take out their ability to respond and kill their 34 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: own civilians. But you also want them to be able 35 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: to rebuild. We don't want to have to pay for it. 36 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,279 Speaker 3: So you want to leave that oil and the energy 37 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: infrastructure in place so they have the resources, they have 38 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: the ability to then raise revenue and export that energy 39 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: so they can rebuild and build a stronger country. And 40 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: then when it comes to uh, you know, whether you 41 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: calling out Europe, Yeah, I mean, come on, let's be 42 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: honest here. They sit there and they have told us 43 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: we have to handle a war in Ukraine, which is 44 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 3: in their backyard. That's our responsibility. Somehow when we need 45 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: their help, they're not there to be found. I'm really 46 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: sick and tired of Europe telling us what we should 47 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 3: or should not be doing. I need you to get 48 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: in line because the only reason why you're free and 49 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: not speaking German is because of the United States of America. 50 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty much par for the course that with 51 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: NATO and other countries. Mark Lauder from Newsmax here and 52 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: The Hammery Nigel Show. Market's Nigel here. Going back to 53 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: something you said about Donald Trump, I don't feel like 54 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: with this war, this like an Iran He's necessarily out 55 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: to decimate every single thing. I mean, look what the 56 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: bombing raid and that island where they get, you know, 57 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: ninety percent of their gas at over last weekend. They 58 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: were precision strikes, military strikes, taking out assets. But like 59 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: you said, Donald Trump left the infrastructure in place, and 60 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: I think that's telling of how he wants this war 61 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 1: to go. 62 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 3: I'm gonna play a little bit of three D chess here, 63 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: and I don't obviously know exactly what the President is thinking, 64 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: but I think I do, and think about this for 65 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: a moment. The President is angry at NATO because they 66 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: have not spent enough money to defend themselves against Russia. 67 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: Now he is taking out Iran, He's taken out Venezuela. 68 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: Cuba is next, and they're going to fall on their own. 69 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 3: Think about a world maybe eighteen months, two years, even 70 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: three years from now, where the United States doesn't have 71 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: to have its entire military force located around Europe to 72 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: protect themselves from Russia or the Middle East, to defend 73 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: against Iran, or even against Venezuela and Cuba, and we 74 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: can move all of our resources over to either protecting 75 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: our homeland or defending against China, who is our real enemy. 76 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: This is President Trump playing three D chess that no 77 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 3: one else can actually see that we are in a part. 78 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: We're going to reorient the entire world order in the 79 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: next three years. 80 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: And I agree with you, and you would know more 81 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: than anybody, being the former special assistant to President Trump, 82 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: former director of Strategic Communications for Trump Pence twenty twenty. 83 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: But do you think the public at large has the 84 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: patience to wait that long for these things to take place? 85 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: The President had originally said he wanted this done five 86 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: six weeks something like that. We're only a couple of 87 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 2: weeks in. But it feels like for a lot of people, 88 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: the patience is starting to wear thin. Is that fair? 89 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: I think it's absolutely fair. But what I also think 90 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: is we are only three weeks in and what they've 91 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: been able to do in three weeks has been remarkable. 92 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 3: I think if we can get the next week or 93 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: two where the Iranian people start stepping up and reclaiming 94 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: their government from the regime and we have to and 95 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 3: we can back away from the bombing. 96 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: Now. 97 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 3: It may mean military, it may mean the Marines taking 98 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: over Carg Island, but I don't consider that to be 99 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 3: boots on the ground. If we send three hundred Marines 100 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: in there in an expeditionary unit to go in and 101 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: take Carg Island, that's one thing. If we're sending tens 102 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: of thousands, fifty thousand, one hundred thousand troops into a 103 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: rack or into Afghanistan, that's to me what I consider 104 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 3: to be boots on the ground. I think tactical strategic 105 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: forces can easily do that. So if we can move 106 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: that forward, if we can get gas prices down by 107 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: June July, I think the American people, we've been dealing 108 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: with iron for forty seven years. Can we pay an 109 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: extra fifty cents per gallon at the pump for maybe 110 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: three or four months to get this thing over with 111 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: and we don't have to deal with it again. I 112 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 3: think we can make that deal. 113 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: Mark Lotter, joining US co host of Newsmas Wake Up 114 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: America weekday mornings. Make sure you check out the role 115 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: Let's pivot to the Save America Act, the Save Act 116 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: as it's known as. Should the Republicans, for the sake 117 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: of election security try to find a way to work 118 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: around or through this filibuster or is that going to 119 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: backfire in the future when there's a time when you 120 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: don't have the power and the Democrats then try to 121 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: back the Supreme Court or bring in extra states. What 122 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 2: do you think? 123 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: You know, if you'd asked me this a couple of 124 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: months ago, I probably would have given a different answer. 125 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: But I just don't actually trust the Democrats to not 126 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: do it. I mean, I remember I was with the 127 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: Republican Party. I was there in Indiana when they did Obamacare, 128 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: and imagine how much worse it would have been if 129 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: they had not actually had to deal with the filibuster issue. 130 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: So I am aware of that, but I also don't 131 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: trust that they're not going to do it the next 132 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: time they get a chance to. I don't think they 133 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: can do DC DC making it a state that's going 134 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: to require constitutional amendment. But Puerto Rico others, I think 135 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: they will do it, don't. I think they will do 136 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: whatever they can. And so I think we do have 137 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: to do what we can do to try and break 138 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: the filibuster to pass something that's got eighty percent approval. Democrats, Republicans, 139 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: independents all support photo ID. I remember I was working 140 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: for Governor Mitch Daniels when we did photo ID back 141 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: in Indiana, and it was to be, according to the 142 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: Indianapolis Star, you know, a nightmare, and it was going 143 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: to disenfranchise people. It didn't. I remember a few years 144 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: ago when Georgia was going to be the it was 145 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 3: Jim Crow two point zero. It wasn't more. Actually, African 146 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: Americans and women came out to vote. They're smart enough 147 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: to be able to get a photo ID. This is 148 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: not this is not what they the scare tactics that 149 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: they use. But they'll do anything they can, and so 150 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 3: it does concern me. 151 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you think, and I don't think to 152 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: Save American Act is going to go through. It doesn't 153 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: look like it. How do you say it the majority 154 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: leader soon, how do you think he's how do you 155 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: think the majority leader soon is doing in general so 156 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: far with everything that he's been tasked. 157 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: Well, the problem with that job when, whether it's you know, 158 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: the Speaker of the House, whether it's the Senate majority 159 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 3: of leader, and whether it's in Congress or in the 160 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 3: Indiana State House, you are representing what your members want. 161 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: And clearly the members of the Senate in the Republican 162 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: side do not want you ditch to fill. Democrats they 163 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: don't have standards. They will do what they're told to do, 164 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: so when they get the majority, they will ditch it. 165 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 3: But Republicans are gonna still stand for something, and they're 166 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 3: saying right now, no, we're not going to do it. 167 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: Can you find a way around it? I don't think 168 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: you can. I heard today that there was some discussion 169 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 3: about whether you can use reconciliation, but even budget reconciliation 170 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: is only about budgetary issues, not about policy. So they're 171 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: going to try. It'll ultimately fail. But ultimately what you 172 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: have to do is you've got to get folks. Whether 173 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: it's in Illinois obviously we have you know, races in Indiana, 174 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 3: you got to just get rid of all of these 175 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 3: Democrats who believe in things that are just antithical to 176 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: the American experience. You can't get on a plane without 177 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 3: a photo ID, you can't get a hotel room. It's 178 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 3: not racist. No one is saying we don't want those 179 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: folks in our hotels to fly. No, we just asked 180 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: that you are who you are. It's not right. 181 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 2: Mark Latter with US, co host of Newsmax, Wake Up America. Mark, 182 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 2: one last thing here before we let you go. We 183 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 2: got about a minute left here. This shutdown taking place 184 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 2: across the country. We all know that study this kind 185 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: of stuff. Who's responsible for this? But have the Republicans 186 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: done a good enough job of getting the messaging out 187 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: there that look, Ice is already funded. This is all 188 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: for theater, This is all for show. This is from 189 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: the Democrats. Have the Republicans been good enough at getting 190 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: that message out? 191 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: Well? The problem is it's easy to blame messaging and messengers, 192 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: and obviously I did that for most of my career 193 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: in politics. The problem now is is that you don't 194 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: have any choice because Democrats are watching only MSNBC and CNN, 195 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: and Republicans are watching Newsmax and there's another cable network 196 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 3: out there. I've heard from time to time that they 197 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: watch and so you know, I've got to do that now. 198 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 3: But still so you don't get a chance to cross over. 199 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: I mean, Democrats are just being fed all of their 200 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: misinformation and then you get you know, the liberal media, 201 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: the print media and others, and so it's very difficult 202 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: to get your message to the other side because we've 203 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 3: all retreated to our own corners. So it's very difficult. 204 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 3: But we've got to keep doing it. We've got to 205 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: keep at it. It makes no sense when we face 206 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: sleeper seals, we face direct threats to our homeland. That 207 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 3: tsa that all of homeland security is shut down, and 208 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: I fear they're putting America's security at risk. 209 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: Check out Newsmax Wake Up America each weekday morning. The 210 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 2: co host is Mark Lotter. Mark, we always appreciate you 211 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: joining us here in nd on WIBC, and we hope 212 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: to talk again soon. 213 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I always talk to my hometown radio station. 214 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: It's The Hammer and Nigel Show.