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Speaker 1: What about watch you can? And then also talking about
Speaker 1: their history with the comics herself.
Speaker 5: I was in a big dds man that's well, I
Speaker 5: mean the history of dead and for a lot of
Speaker 5: people people I'm not, but everybody body knows the Landers.
Speaker 5: So I read the dark artists, you know art dark
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Speaker 5: guard Ardians and something like that.
Speaker 1: So here the first I read the Little Lanterns.
Speaker 5: And uh, of course watching an animated series, just just
Speaker 5: momented whenever the rest present are so all of them.
Speaker 5: Of course, you know, never never got bla black Man.
Speaker 5: I would have definitely for that one which is in
Speaker 5: this series. So this is a really interesting approach to
Speaker 5: a commic book series that has built to rhyme. The
Speaker 5: guy would ring that that can turn into anything and
Speaker 5: that he can imagine, and to really have it on
Speaker 5: earth with this character whose whole thing weven know guarding
Speaker 5: the Earth, he spends time in space two. This is
Speaker 5: a really interesting approach, also taking the sword order brain
Speaker 5: bro like that angle how it plays out for the
Speaker 5: rest of the season, especially got We Got, We Got
Speaker 5: So I thought just a storytelling.
Speaker 1: Aspect, it isn't enough to get me hooked.
Speaker 5: And I thought he was working well so but the
Speaker 5: whole time I'm a box like, Bro, you're not going
Speaker 5: to use rain, like not going to U ringing.
Speaker 1: All like what what what? What's going on on? So
Speaker 1: you know, but I'm interested. I'm here here for this
Speaker 1: is different. Yeah, I really enjoyed with the episode.
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed for for reasons that I can't really
Speaker 4: explain outside like I'm here to see how they moved
Speaker 4: before ward with this, but esp as far as I'm
Speaker 4: back with similar to Day and I've always read a
Speaker 4: lot lot of the dream and economics.
Speaker 1: My person Doug was well like Justice League, but then
Speaker 1: that's learned.
Speaker 4: Or because I was both d and cannot totally this
Speaker 4: long time like for me, I look at small had
Speaker 4: had better, sweet girls all had that best stories, so
Speaker 4: so like that that's how they were to go back
Speaker 4: in w ward, like why I am a man in
Speaker 4: O and n CDs. But the first Black John is
Speaker 4: the that that I don't know. I had a really
Speaker 4: good comments like oh there was somebody before was somebody
Speaker 4: beford that, and then everybody after that, like so I'm
Speaker 4: aware about order and how famous island or this is
Speaker 4: another Oneame Kyle that's also in the main of that.
Speaker 4: And then there's John Jostward with me is like the
Speaker 4: solid like he's like he don't get all the big
Speaker 4: stories like the but he is like a well well respected,
Speaker 4: getting a little his own kind of guy. And I
Speaker 4: was curious about this show because as we all know
Speaker 4: about it was like a true detective, it was Supergirls
Speaker 4: or it's like this is that, and I'm just like,
Speaker 4: let's just see this can even be com screening because
Speaker 4: for how I magive could be comics. You cannot do
Speaker 4: that at a TV without like out of the budget.
Speaker 4: And that's I like how this story is being for
Speaker 4: that episode. It's just that they kind of touched on it.
Speaker 4: He even take all the like thing lands do, but
Speaker 4: they don't get too far. These are two being Earth
Speaker 4: that are learning how to me. Like they mentioned the
Speaker 4: Street Cops playing, you know, and like the Street cops.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I really did that episode like I love it.
Speaker 4: I was, but they had eisode. But we start off
Speaker 4: this series with the the flashback going on to take
Speaker 4: it back ninety six Young time to work with his
Speaker 4: family flash brothers. Watching an interview with the first from Jordan,
Speaker 4: What were your first thoughts on the opening scene of
Speaker 4: the show?
Speaker 1: You can believe it?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: What the fuck?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 3: It really was like what the fuck?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 7: I was like, all right, so cool, I get the
Speaker 7: kids maybe like maybe the parents watching that tell him
Speaker 7: going to the back.
Speaker 3: Yard, and then he put the apple on his head
Speaker 3: and took a gun, like what the you doing? Like
Speaker 3: the time, it's like, I'm like, what the hell is
Speaker 3: this going on here?
Speaker 1: At all?
Speaker 7: The last season, No, you've already didn't go into mind honestly,
Speaker 7: because all I see when the actor has been multiple things.
Speaker 8: Like yeah, yeah, I'm like I look like murder, Like he's.
Speaker 3: Not that he's not.
Speaker 4: Show about the closest, and all of a sudden, I'm like,
Speaker 4: I got a little murder playing Chris Hall. He will
Speaker 4: always be a little murder And that's a very interesting character.
Speaker 4: For those of time I'm not watching umality, that's one
Speaker 4: of the most interesting characters. You injudiced him as an actor.
Speaker 4: You will never forget that as the resume.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but overall, like it was, it didn't. I was
Speaker 3: just like, what the hell is going on? Like what
Speaker 3: who does this? Like it made me feel automatically that
Speaker 3: all right, I don't know what's going on. But I
Speaker 3: don't know if this is.
Speaker 7: Because I had highest, I got highest. I think they
Speaker 7: don't land. I think it should be all right.
Speaker 3: So when they did this, I was like, damn, bro,
Speaker 3: they about to let me down. Like so I was
Speaker 3: all already there. But to your point about DC versus
Speaker 3: Marvel the way you see that, I get to the point.
Speaker 7: As far as superheroes and and and stories, I just
Speaker 7: look at it as Marvels always just more grounded, like
Speaker 7: it's more relatable.
Speaker 3: DC is more like world.
Speaker 1: And fantastical, super fantastic exactly.
Speaker 7: The Batman is the one grounded, like big character that's
Speaker 7: about people funk with it because it's like it's more grounded.
Speaker 3: It's fantastical in a way, but it's more grounded in
Speaker 3: the rest of it.
Speaker 7: So yeah, so I was kind of ready for it
Speaker 7: to be all over the place because it is the
Speaker 7: dreen Lances and I've seen the animated.
Speaker 3: Series a little bit, so I was already there.
Speaker 7: But yeah, okay, you want to say God early, I
Speaker 7: didn't you want to say, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't care about God out there with what's his name?
Speaker 4: The big elephant look at one what's his name?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's one of them green like you just
Speaker 1: known bottom to the day in the background.
Speaker 4: Is like when you read about his child and up
Speaker 4: being one of them guys for no reason? Why man
Speaker 4: John suits the guy that storyline?
Speaker 1: But whatever? Ken Uh.
Speaker 4: The question want to ask you, is this how you
Speaker 4: your kids when you want to show them how I
Speaker 4: have here? You from the military background, did the daddy
Speaker 4: come in and full you in in the form? And
Speaker 4: I know if he was gonna beat him for.
Speaker 1: What the TV's lay and that accelerated why he got
Speaker 1: his gun out. He's his son, Like I didn't know
Speaker 1: where this was on. What your thoughts?
Speaker 5: That's that's that I'm not raising punk kids mentality. That's
Speaker 5: bad him from the military. We don't know why he
Speaker 5: went to Mills or whatever. It's gorgeous were there, but
Speaker 5: you know it definitely shaped and molded him into being
Speaker 5: that guy that wanted to raise kids, uh in the world.
Speaker 5: That's that's tough. And this was what two thousand when
Speaker 5: you was so yeah, so the world was a lot
Speaker 5: smoother than but if it was ninety to see had
Speaker 5: kids around that age that he grew up in a
Speaker 5: real uh tough time so or was born and sometimes
Speaker 5: I grew up into it. So it's not uncommon to
Speaker 5: see them doing military trope like this where that got
Speaker 5: shoot the arrow off this kid to sell like uh,
Speaker 5: this sort of lack of uh.
Speaker 1: Fear in them.
Speaker 5: It seemed like it's been He's the only one that
Speaker 5: has taken to that because the other kids, to your point, Nick,
Speaker 5: it seemed like he was abusive and there may have
Speaker 5: been some abuse there because the other kids looked like
Speaker 5: they were kind of worried for them and concerned and like, oh, here.
Speaker 1: We go again.
Speaker 5: But this was the one kid that that got it,
Speaker 5: got whatever he was he was looking for. So it's
Speaker 5: a lot. It's extreme, but it was to seller point.
Speaker 5: I don't know did go there to sell it.
Speaker 4: But exactly, yeah, I get it, like you mentioned, I
Speaker 4: get the like, Okay, this is how John Stewart was molded,
Speaker 4: you know, like because in the anime shows and in
Speaker 4: some of the comments. He does have a military background himself,
Speaker 4: but we don't really get to see his upbring. We
Speaker 4: just let he grow up in the hood and that's
Speaker 4: pretty much it. So it's like to grow up in
Speaker 4: the hood with dad like that. So I'm just talking
Speaker 4: up to that. But what I really found interesting was
Speaker 4: his fascination with Greenland early as a kid, so especially
Speaker 4: with this one because it's still the same one.
Speaker 1: Howl Jordan in the interview.
Speaker 4: What I liked about this show is that they gave
Speaker 4: you a taste of like the Lord of Greenlands without
Speaker 4: bombarding you with like having to be a comic book nerd.
Speaker 1: Because you know Lou who they joined us on one
Speaker 1: of these reviews down the line.
Speaker 4: His concern was like do I need to learn or
Speaker 4: that he have like watched a bunch of stuff or
Speaker 4: read a bunch of stuff to kind of get off today. Now,
Speaker 4: it was crazy that he does this for Game of Thrones,
Speaker 4: but he won't do that for other things. But that's
Speaker 4: just doing in a nutshell. But I'm glad like the
Speaker 4: interview that they had on TV with how it was
Speaker 4: just very basic questions and that kind of gave you
Speaker 4: understand it, Jay, did you feel the same way as
Speaker 4: far as like learning the back short of how Jordan
Speaker 4: in this short opening scene.
Speaker 9: It felt felt it felt felt fine the moment right now,
Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying, Like I didn't a lot
Speaker 9: and then moment, but it was it.
Speaker 1: Was getting me.
Speaker 3: I was basically that he had like like a minimlitary background.
Speaker 1: And then like.
Speaker 7: Different person pieces of the first round now because basic
Speaker 7: basically you get getting him in.
Speaker 3: Kind of kind of like different, uh different a few
Speaker 3: years so shows you meet more letters.
Speaker 10: It was I was.
Speaker 11: Continues and we don't we don't doubt and I'm pretty
Speaker 11: pretty that to us. What were your thoughts on how
Speaker 11: Jordan's backstory can.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm still kind of he was an interesting character throughout
Speaker 5: the whole the whole thing, you know, and we kind
Speaker 5: of already are familiar with the backstory as what anyway
Speaker 5: through the comics, so you know, it's kind of like
Speaker 5: it was supposed to be the thing that kind of
Speaker 5: got him started.
Speaker 1: But now I'm like, why are you the way you
Speaker 1: are now?
Speaker 5: Because we've seen how you were in the past, and
Speaker 5: now how did you get to this stage, So that's
Speaker 5: kind of what I'm what I'm looking for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, as you mentioned earlier, Jailer, we do get
Speaker 1: different iterations.
Speaker 4: Even in this one episode, we bounce around between like
Speaker 4: thirty forty years and we jumped twenty years later in
Speaker 4: to twenty sixteen, So going from ninety six to twenty sixteen,
Speaker 4: and we see an older John Stewart link up with
Speaker 4: how Jordan for a training mission. Now A getting can
Speaker 4: I like how they didn't explain how John to me?
Speaker 4: How who was like his childhood hero? Why how is
Speaker 4: even acting like this? But he pulled up and what
Speaker 4: was it is that?
Speaker 3: Is that a cutlass?
Speaker 1: He pulled up and something crazy?
Speaker 4: And he's like just more loose, more casual, just kind
Speaker 4: of like a I don't know, he's just an interesting
Speaker 4: character already.
Speaker 1: What did you think of this older version of.
Speaker 5: How He's He's he's arrogant, he's an asshole. He isn't
Speaker 5: ready to relinquish the title. And it's almost like he
Speaker 5: was forced to have this black guy in the car.
Speaker 5: It's like it's like white training day or so, it's
Speaker 5: just like he's just dripping around with this guy in
Speaker 5: the car. They really don't want to mess with, but
Speaker 5: he has no choice. So it's an interesting way to
Speaker 5: put Howld Jordan, you know, as this sort of stubborn
Speaker 5: god that's reluctantly doing something that just seemed like he
Speaker 5: really wanted to do.
Speaker 1: That's a great description though, like a reverse training day.
Speaker 1: But with superheroes. I think that I like that what
Speaker 1: about you Jay?
Speaker 3: Did you?
Speaker 1: Did you? And did you?
Speaker 4: Like how we're learning about these characters in real time,
Speaker 4: Like again, like how they kind of deal with like
Speaker 4: Spider Man Homecoming where we didn't have to see you know,
Speaker 4: him get bit by the Spider Uncle Ben dine on
Speaker 4: that we just kind of jumped in. I feel like
Speaker 4: they're doing that with us, where we're like every be
Speaker 4: seen were learning like, Okay, this is how you got here,
Speaker 4: this is why you think, you think and you know
Speaker 4: these are your interactions.
Speaker 1: Do you enjoy that, especially as you as we meet
Speaker 1: the older version of how and John?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean for us, that's when I think it
Speaker 7: was like the man like my hero content like sho
Speaker 7: shows or sometimes very character before they get the powers.
Speaker 7: But at this point Niggigasi all these like like her
Speaker 7: he cont and like time, it makes like like giving me,
Speaker 7: you you, this is the person game powers. We can
Speaker 7: person making the conversations and the character of the version
Speaker 7: and also character the power time.
Speaker 3: So I was perfect. I'm not not when you first came,
Speaker 3: like know, I thought.
Speaker 12: It was.
Speaker 3: Because what was the song that was playing?
Speaker 1: He was bumping into what was it?
Speaker 5: It was?
Speaker 10: But that's what it too, I was like, But yeah,
Speaker 10: it's just it felt even even even the way it did, and.
Speaker 7: That like immediately like when you knew what kind of
Speaker 7: characters like that don't wanna beurnament.
Speaker 3: Through like the character in this moment. So this is
Speaker 3: perfect and how Johnson do it? So for me, I.
Speaker 4: I think show I think in movies you have to
Speaker 4: do origin story. I think in TV shows you can
Speaker 4: just tell your story because like again we've already had flashbacks,
Speaker 4: so Storage passed and even how George passed, like even
Speaker 4: in the first fifteen minutes, so we're learning their origin stories.
Speaker 4: As time goes on, you have more time to play with.
Speaker 4: But if you do it wrong, obviously it seems like
Speaker 4: you're wasting time. If you don't do it right, it
Speaker 4: feels like Okay, by the time we get to the
Speaker 4: end of the season, we know everything. You know about
Speaker 4: Greenlanders and these characters, so when but how when how
Speaker 4: it pulled up? I was happy as hell because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is him when he's got the job down past.
Speaker 4: I feel like the how that we saw on the
Speaker 4: interview was like I'm the first one, so like, I
Speaker 4: want you to know that I'm a regular human.
Speaker 1: I want you try to know that we're basically just
Speaker 1: like cops.
Speaker 4: Like he was trying to be as relatable as kids,
Speaker 4: because it's like, Nigga, you flying, you live in space essentially,
Speaker 4: like how do you how are you uh here to
Speaker 4: protect us when you don't really conduct in the ways
Speaker 4: of how we're normally used to being protected.
Speaker 1: I guess the.
Speaker 3: Story that we have this is who we hear when
Speaker 3: we leave.
Speaker 13: They haven't give him Awards story anymore like the common
Speaker 13: system like mann't really have that Ward Wars or later
Speaker 13: that haven't have War Wars story wards a Ward Wars storery.
Speaker 7: Most like at the pint, we're kind of like consciously
Speaker 7: we know, oh they gott that I was jumping I got.
Speaker 3: I don't see them. Yeah, I don't know human.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, basically we ain't wasting time. You came
Speaker 4: to watch Landers. We know you're a great Land fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, Ken, did you enjoy their chemistry together, especially
Speaker 1: when the car the car driving over the cliff scene?
Speaker 1: I did. I was shocked.
Speaker 5: We didn't see him really do anything with the ring,
Speaker 5: but they used that to kind of set up a
Speaker 5: little subtle small joke later on at the taco joint
Speaker 5: out which was literally called Tacos from what I saw,
Speaker 5: I was like, I don't know if I thought they
Speaker 5: were trying to advertise with some other stuff that they got.
Speaker 5: I was looking for the name of the player Taco,
Speaker 5: but I missed it. But either way to go, I
Speaker 5: think this was good.
Speaker 1: This was good.
Speaker 5: If he dies, then this is a problem solved. If
Speaker 5: he lives, then the training is going well. I was
Speaker 5: saying the same thing on the second rewich. I was like,
Speaker 5: what if he just what is the ring frew all
Speaker 5: the way back seat he had to try to reach
Speaker 5: for he would have wash.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, tell the guardians he ain't the one.
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Speaker 4: What was your thoughts on the card over like, because
Speaker 4: we see them, like you Ken said, we see him
Speaker 4: use the ring technique, or we hear him use the ring,
Speaker 4: we don't see him use the ring. Did you like
Speaker 4: that this scene was like, especially in the trailer for
Speaker 4: this series, we kind of see a lot of stuff
Speaker 4: in that wasn't for the season, but it was actually
Speaker 4: just the first episode exactly.
Speaker 3: And I think that's why this scene didn't really like.
Speaker 3: It didn't really do a lot for me because it
Speaker 3: was in the trailer obviously.
Speaker 7: But I think they're gonna probably they're gonna lean on
Speaker 7: word of mouth because a lot of the trailer stuff
Speaker 7: is probably like from the beginning episodes, like it don't
Speaker 7: sell the Lanner's piece, and so you see though you
Speaker 7: see that trailer and it doesn't give you a lot
Speaker 7: to really feel like this.
Speaker 1: Is going on.
Speaker 3: But yeah, this this scene was It was alright because
Speaker 3: I already had seen it in the trail.
Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna get out of it.
Speaker 3: It was more so what.
Speaker 1: Happened after is that I really really which I figured.
Speaker 4: I figured that would be it because after surviving driving
Speaker 4: off to Cliffy, see John head to the tackle stand.
Speaker 1: How I told him to meet him att before he
Speaker 1: jumped out the car.
Speaker 4: But while he's walking, How's ring gets a Hollo brand
Speaker 4: message from How's younger self that told John to tell
Speaker 4: how that there's hell in Rushville, Nebraska. Jayleen, there's a
Speaker 4: lot of questions I have for the scene. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: first start off saying, do you like the design of
Speaker 4: the ring?
Speaker 3: The design and the ring ain't that it ain't it
Speaker 3: ain't something I like.
Speaker 7: I don't know if I'm a fan of the of
Speaker 7: the suit either, because I've seen the top half of
Speaker 7: the suit when I was first talking.
Speaker 3: I don't know I'm the biggest fan of that yet either.
Speaker 3: I'm definitely not.
Speaker 4: A fan of God garners On like that one that
Speaker 4: was a super Man. That's but that's like, that's those
Speaker 4: are comic accurate. And I feel like, like because the
Speaker 4: one thing I like about the MCU is like Captain
Speaker 4: America's suit changed over time. The one thing I like
Speaker 4: about iron Man iron Man suit changed over like you
Speaker 4: eventually like, Okay, we got to keep reworking this suit
Speaker 4: design because we wanted to see the character age with it.
Speaker 4: But also like we can get better look at suits, No,
Speaker 4: or you can sell toys. That's more so, that's the
Speaker 4: bottom line talk.
Speaker 7: Exactly, Like that's why Spider Man has so many suits
Speaker 7: in those movies, and this one is kind of surprising
Speaker 7: he doesn't have more than one suit, but yeah, it is.
Speaker 7: But I just I'm just not a and maybe it's
Speaker 7: just me because I'm not a DC fan and I
Speaker 7: don't know the law as much. All I know is
Speaker 7: my baseline is from Justice League Unlimited, Batman, animutit like
Speaker 7: that that universe is my baseline.
Speaker 3: So it seemed bulky.
Speaker 7: The suit seems boky, and I don't know if I'm
Speaker 7: the biggest fan of that, but I also understand why
Speaker 7: because the last mentioned was trash, so they're.
Speaker 3: Trying to find the middle ground. But the ring, I'm
Speaker 3: not the biggest fan of that design either.
Speaker 1: So then what about the hologram message how the ring works?
Speaker 1: I fuck with that.
Speaker 7: I don't know if that's worse, if that's in the
Speaker 7: low or not, but I fuck with it like a
Speaker 7: like it's like an accountability piece, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: And I like the way they used it, especially with
Speaker 7: him come in and just talking to John and having
Speaker 7: like a true conversation, because when we see how the
Speaker 7: episode ends or whatever, I don't know if I want
Speaker 7: to see the character be gone. And this is kind
Speaker 7: of my way of like eventually throughout the universe existing,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. So it made me fuck
Speaker 7: with that part of like the hologram being a thing
Speaker 7: of like Iron Man teaching re read type thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn can you?
Speaker 4: But I was gonna ask you the same similar questions,
Speaker 4: like what did you think of the ring design? And
Speaker 4: also what do you think about the holograph or a
Speaker 4: hologram scene the Ring time?
Speaker 5: Uh, it was different though, like like it was done
Speaker 5: with the three D printer or something. I don't know
Speaker 5: where that came from, but you know, maybe they wanted
Speaker 5: to do something different for the show. So but I
Speaker 5: don't know how well. It's a ring, so I think
Speaker 5: they would like to give it some more airtime. But
Speaker 5: we'll see it. But it didn't really bother me all
Speaker 5: that much. But I don't know why they just didn't
Speaker 5: go with the og ring that everybody know Like this
Speaker 5: is when you get yourself into trouble when you start
Speaker 5: making changes for no reason unless.
Speaker 1: They have one and it is to be revealed later.
Speaker 1: We'll we'll see.
Speaker 5: And you know the costume. You asked about the costume too, Yeah,
Speaker 5: the costume is fine, you know. Yeah, I didn't have
Speaker 5: any issues with the with the costume.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought, I mean, the ring is not sexy
Speaker 4: at all, but I think I like, I think I'll
Speaker 4: learned to like the design. What I really took away
Speaker 4: from that scene and can feel for your chime in
Speaker 4: as well, Jalen.
Speaker 1: The lore of the Ring is that it can damner
Speaker 1: do anything.
Speaker 4: So I've never seen this before from the Ring, but
Speaker 4: it doesn't surprise me that the Ring can do it,
Speaker 4: because it can literally damn or do everything it does.
Speaker 4: It does, it can pick you up by itself, it
Speaker 4: can talk to you, it can kind of do all
Speaker 4: that stuff. But it never shown that they can do
Speaker 4: it in this way, but I like how they explain
Speaker 4: it as far as like it's kind of like a
Speaker 4: police log or like how you know police cops after
Speaker 4: every case, every scene, they're supposed to all their hours
Speaker 4: and all what happened. This is their digital alien version
Speaker 4: of that. So I like that as a kind of
Speaker 4: a self conscious, like an AI kind of thing, Like
Speaker 4: I'm basically how in a sense, based on the years
Speaker 4: that we've been together, I know how to kind of
Speaker 4: bet him, but at the same time, I can't predict
Speaker 4: how he would have because that's why the ring was
Speaker 4: like asking questions like Damn, I ain't teach you this.
Speaker 4: I didn't do this, Like I like how I was like, Damn,
Speaker 4: I thought, based off how much time as past, I'll
Speaker 4: be doing things a lot better for you. But Ken,
Speaker 4: I don't know if you had anything to add on
Speaker 4: to that part. As far as his John's interaction with
Speaker 4: Howe's conscious that.
Speaker 1: One called me up by surprise.
Speaker 5: It had been questioning whether or not the other half
Speaker 5: was real, and then I was like, well, how would
Speaker 5: he drive the car? So I kind of got to
Speaker 5: where we needed to go. But it was really really
Speaker 5: weird because it was like, am I dead? And yeah,
Speaker 5: this sort of accountability thing. And it also showed, as
Speaker 5: John mentioned earlier that he was a lot nicer. It
Speaker 5: was like, that's a different version of you that I
Speaker 5: do not know. So now it's like, Okay, what the
Speaker 5: hell happened to him over these years? The tournament to that,
Speaker 5: So it was it was clever writing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I also feel like, even though none of
Speaker 7: us are really a fan of a ring, the way
Speaker 7: it still fits the world, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: in that world, and it's like a gretty ugly feel
Speaker 7: to the world around it, so it fits.
Speaker 4: In, Like that's that's what I'm saying. I think I
Speaker 4: can fuck with it because it's like it's ugly. But
Speaker 4: it seemed like it don't matter, Like once you see
Speaker 4: the ring, you know the power of it. So it's
Speaker 4: like like if you have the most powerful thing in
Speaker 4: the world, it don't really matter. How Look, it's the
Speaker 4: most powerful thing in the world, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So that's where I take you. Moving on, we didn't
Speaker 4: see John link up with how at the Taco stand,
Speaker 4: but before you that, we kind of see how famous
Speaker 4: how is based on It's not being a green Lander
Speaker 4: from how he interacts with the locals, and we learn
Speaker 4: why he doesn't always wear the green Lander suit everywhere
Speaker 4: he goes, like some superheroes where they always wear their suit.
Speaker 4: Before I pass on to you can as far as
Speaker 4: like what did you think were your overall thoughts on
Speaker 4: his reasoning? I will say John, the character of John Stewart.
Speaker 4: I think Aaron Pierre is playing a really really good
Speaker 4: imitation of John Stewart because John Stewart from Jay you
Speaker 4: know this from the cartoon. He's real, like blunt, like
Speaker 4: you can tell, militant, Yeah, militant dude, Like he's not.
Speaker 4: There's not much charisma personality until later on the only
Speaker 4: time you see him christal personality and the animated shows
Speaker 4: when he went the biddies.
Speaker 1: We're about to We're gonna get to a conversation later
Speaker 1: all about Uh, but Keny, what did you think of
Speaker 1: How's reasoning for why he don't wear the suit?
Speaker 5: This whole thing was interesting because he is a he
Speaker 5: as celebrity, and you know with him with doctor shut
Speaker 5: and and dealing with that over and over again.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it kind of kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1: It's like.
Speaker 5: What what what do you basically say, like, once you've
Speaker 5: seen it, the once you something along the lines of
Speaker 5: the magic Trick is over. Once you've seen it, it
Speaker 5: kind of loses it's luster or something like that.
Speaker 4: I think like once you learn about the magic Trick,
Speaker 4: Daniel loses it's luster, like.
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm performing it, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, So and
Speaker 5: it didn't really change him at all, you know, it's
Speaker 5: like it becomes performed almost like for after a while,
Speaker 5: it becomes performing it for other people, and you know,
Speaker 5: they were people are like, oh, why don't you wear
Speaker 5: to ask about the suit when he's more than the
Speaker 5: suit and we see that like they still recognize and
Speaker 5: appreciate him for who he is. He doesn't really wear
Speaker 5: a mask at all, so they know who he is.
Speaker 5: But so why do I need the suit? So it's
Speaker 5: also like I'm just putting on the suit just to
Speaker 5: entertain you, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Jameen, well what were your thoughts on his reasoning?
Speaker 4: But also like what did you think of the scene
Speaker 4: after John tells how the message that he got, I.
Speaker 7: Feel like there's something that was going on. That's why
Speaker 7: you're not wearing this, That's what it just told me.
Speaker 3: Like between how he was ten years ago when the
Speaker 3: hologram came up and then.
Speaker 7: The way he was talking about the suit, like he
Speaker 7: didn't really give his example fit but it didn't fit,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, Like he was pulling something
Speaker 7: on his ass because it wasn't the true reason why
Speaker 7: he doesn't wear the suit. It just feels like he's
Speaker 7: on the outs with maybe the Guardians or maybe somebody else.
Speaker 7: Maybe it's just it's something going on where he's disillusioned
Speaker 7: about something and it's like, man, fuck.
Speaker 3: That suit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Yeah, But it's not like he doesn't enjoy being Green
Speaker 7: lance because he was taking pictures, Like if he hated
Speaker 7: being Green Lantern, he wouldn't even take those pictures or
Speaker 7: like care to be seen by people. I don't think
Speaker 7: that's the part that bothers him. I think it's something
Speaker 7: about the symbolism of the suit or something that's going
Speaker 7: on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, John can Yeah, I told you that, military said.
Speaker 1: I think I like, again, did you enjoy the h
Speaker 1: What do you think about how just taking off that
Speaker 1: that was rude as fun?
Speaker 5: Bro?
Speaker 1: Because how the hell did you gonna get there?
Speaker 5: And we don't know how much money he got, but
Speaker 5: apparently got enough and he just left him there.
Speaker 1: And then left him with the with the bill with
Speaker 1: the bi.
Speaker 5: I'm like, first of all, it should have been on
Speaker 5: the house, but either way go Yeah, but I liked
Speaker 5: it because it showed like whatever is happening in that
Speaker 5: spot is serious enough for him to shift gears into
Speaker 5: this this other person's and he needs to go deal
Speaker 5: with it, like right away.
Speaker 1: So it was pretty cool to see him do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the first time we seen him serious since
Speaker 1: the interview, because.
Speaker 4: Like he's over here being casual, drinking the beer, talking
Speaker 4: to the locals, uh messing with John driving off cliff,
Speaker 4: but then once he heard another message, he gets into action.
Speaker 4: But like you said, Ken, we then see John has
Speaker 4: to travel all the way to Nebraska to link up
Speaker 4: with How, and when he finally does, it's at a
Speaker 4: crime scene at a local high school football field in Rushfield. Jay,
Speaker 4: what were your thoughts on the conversation between how and
Speaker 4: John when it came to how they review a potential
Speaker 4: alien crime scene, like how they break down the crime scene.
Speaker 7: I like the scene, but I don't even know why
Speaker 7: I like this scene because I guess It gave me
Speaker 7: that feel like because he said it was True Detective,
Speaker 7: people kept saying about it, and I'm not the biggest
Speaker 7: true to True Detective thing.
Speaker 4: Like they're talking about season one True Detective. They're not
Speaker 4: talking about the series anybody. Anytime someone says true Detective,
Speaker 4: they talking about Matthew occonnae hey and what he hear else.
Speaker 1: They're talking about Vince Vaughn and god damn Colin Firth.
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, all right, well, I just like the way
Speaker 7: it was being set up, especially, I like this giving
Speaker 7: me the feel of.
Speaker 3: Sorry about that. This a little nigga he want to
Speaker 3: be seeing.
Speaker 1: Like like how it's going to your points is what
Speaker 1: it is, but.
Speaker 7: Understanding that basically that how his experienced like he was.
Speaker 7: He was just sitting there, He was taking all the
Speaker 7: information in. He was like not over analyzing anything, and
Speaker 7: he was just patient in that moment. As far as John,
Speaker 7: John was just an anxious love he was just anxious
Speaker 7: his face like trying to I get it.
Speaker 3: I would be upset too if.
Speaker 7: I didn't took a plane and drove there and did
Speaker 7: all this extra shit just to see you sitting at
Speaker 7: a football field and then the sheriff coming over there
Speaker 7: being extra too, I get all that, but he just.
Speaker 3: Seemed composed like he knew exactly what he was doing.
Speaker 7: And I think that's what I like the most because
Speaker 7: out of all the sporadic and all the extra stuff
Speaker 7: we had in the beginning of this episode, seeing like
Speaker 7: he was like not put together, like something else is
Speaker 7: going on with him right now, were reminded, you know,
Speaker 7: how to do his fucking job, and that was important, and.
Speaker 1: Even reminded John about that. He said, I'm the first
Speaker 1: one from Earth.
Speaker 4: Ever been at this with this ring. Don't don't don't
Speaker 4: question me, but what did you think about that scene?
Speaker 4: And also what do you think of Sheriff Kelly?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Think John got a lesson all the way around. He
Speaker 5: got a lesson from from how How's experience. He's there
Speaker 5: for a reason. He doesn't know what it is, but
Speaker 5: just sit down and fucking wait and find out. Stop
Speaker 5: being so anxious and let me kind of guide you.
Speaker 5: Which now maybe I kind of understand why he may
Speaker 5: be annoyed with him. He's probably doing that ship all
Speaker 5: the time. But and we saw him mess up and
Speaker 5: the sheriff. The sheriff after schooling because he saw this
Speaker 5: thing that happened down there. He was like, that's out
Speaker 5: of place. So you're doing a great job of scouting
Speaker 5: the scene. But then you run down there and you
Speaker 5: didn't realize that the sheriff was already up on it too,
Speaker 5: and that she's actually probably really good at her job.
Speaker 5: So he just messed up everything. So he really became
Speaker 5: a rookie real quick in that moment. But if he'll
Speaker 5: he'll learn from it.
Speaker 4: For me, I was thinking, like, you know how they
Speaker 4: always talk about like soldiers could be cops, Like you
Speaker 4: would think it would be a smooth transition. But to me,
Speaker 4: I'm looking at John, it's like you could tell he's
Speaker 4: a smart, intelligent soldier. I think he's a marine or
Speaker 4: something like that, or he was a sharp shooter. But
Speaker 4: he's not a good cop. He's not a smart good
Speaker 4: cop yet. And you had and you, like you mentioned
Speaker 4: can you had the bookends of an alien cop and
Speaker 4: a regular cop and they both noticed the same thing.
Speaker 4: You you're the one in this scenario who didn't notice
Speaker 4: that and caused it because she when he came down
Speaker 4: said she's like, nigga, we all know what he there.
Speaker 4: Why are you bringing attention of saying that something that
Speaker 4: we all know, because John came off like he knew
Speaker 4: exactly how to break down a crime scene by how
Speaker 4: he you know, was saying how the bodies got there
Speaker 4: while they stand down and all this and that. But
Speaker 4: it's like, notah, bro, you didn't really look well you observed,
Speaker 4: you didn't You don't know how to react. So because
Speaker 4: of that, we then learned that how it was right
Speaker 4: about the suspect because he was arguing with the sheriff
Speaker 4: about whether it was not an alien or not. And
Speaker 4: we come to find out aliens are just like humans.
Speaker 4: They always return to the scene of the crime. And
Speaker 4: since John startled him, the guy started running, or the
Speaker 4: alien started running, but he looks like a regular white
Speaker 4: man in Nebraska, and he takes off. But luckily John,
Speaker 4: you know, through his smarts and his athleticism as they
Speaker 4: called kid, he tracks him down, punched him in the face,
Speaker 4: and arrest him.
Speaker 1: Jalen, what were your thoughts on.
Speaker 4: Again, kind of going back on how telling John that
Speaker 4: he's the first lander on Earth and until he dies,
Speaker 4: he's the only landan on Earth. Do you think he
Speaker 4: feels intimidated by this presence.
Speaker 7: How I feels intimidated by John's presence. No, he's just
Speaker 7: like I'm I'm the nigga. It's that example, like I
Speaker 7: am who I am like, and it's again, I think
Speaker 7: that's still a piece of how that may be mentoring
Speaker 7: in a sense to see if you're even worthy of
Speaker 7: the ring. But the other part is probably no matter
Speaker 7: what happens, I am Green Lantern like it's jay Z.
Speaker 7: Hey man, all y'all, I'm Jay, I'm old y'all, y'all niggas, y'all, good,
Speaker 7: y'all do y'all thing like y'all doing what y'all doing,
Speaker 7: But y'all won't be me like no matter you could
Speaker 7: be the best rapper today, but I'm I'm still mean
Speaker 7: no matter what.
Speaker 3: No, I don't completely know, but I'm just saying like.
Speaker 4: This the overall sentimce that that's the most obvious example
Speaker 4: to kind of get for what you're saying, I got you,
Speaker 4: I got you can What did you think about?
Speaker 1: Well, do you think that how it's intimidated by John?
Speaker 1: Because I think I do. I see it clearly.
Speaker 5: I think it's intimidated by John. But I think it's
Speaker 5: because in order for him to get the ring and
Speaker 5: become a successor. He has to die, and I think
Speaker 5: that's the thing he's concerned about the most, and he's
Speaker 5: saying over and over again.
Speaker 1: I'm not giving up my ring. In other words, I'm
Speaker 1: going to live.
Speaker 5: And I think for me, that's that's when it kind
Speaker 5: of start and stopped there outside of the fact that
Speaker 5: he may be really good, but in order for him
Speaker 5: to get the job, he has to die.
Speaker 1: He's not he's not ready to die yet.
Speaker 4: That was the thing that I was looking at, Like,
Speaker 4: it's kind of like, again, you're working at a job
Speaker 4: and you and they always, you know, the number one
Speaker 4: thing people tell you to do is not to train
Speaker 4: your replacement.
Speaker 1: And but this is also the job, like to get
Speaker 1: replacement is you have to die. It's kind of like,
Speaker 1: what is it?
Speaker 4: A Supreme Court justice, Like it's a life term thing.
Speaker 4: So for me, it's like he's like a walking.
Speaker 1: What is it? What is the guy? The grim Reaper? Essentially?
Speaker 4: And he black already too, so it just he's younger
Speaker 4: than them, he's black, he's athletic, he got some smarts
Speaker 4: on him. It's like it's easily, you know, mister white
Speaker 4: man always think that's that's the case scenario. Okay, So
Speaker 4: I think he's intimidated that not necessarily by him as
Speaker 4: a character, but just him as like what he represents.
Speaker 4: So I find that very interesting for their relationship dynamic.
Speaker 4: But we then see Howl and John go to a
Speaker 4: local bar for a drink.
Speaker 1: But we learned not only.
Speaker 4: About How's past as far as how he got the ring,
Speaker 4: but also how your plans to get into the jail
Speaker 4: and interrogate the suspect because the sheriff. Sheriff Kelly is
Speaker 4: not a big fan of Greenlanders, like I don't think
Speaker 4: a big fan of superheroes. She just kind of wants
Speaker 4: to keep that separate from her time, from her lifestyle.
Speaker 4: But in this case, it's impossible. So, uh, Jay, what
Speaker 4: did you think about the bar scene?
Speaker 7: I mean, we're gonna get to I mean we including
Speaker 7: everything what happened in outside the bar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about that.
Speaker 7: I mean I figure how his plan was gonna work.
Speaker 7: I mean I get why he thought it would work,
Speaker 7: but I always think the way, like, if I know
Speaker 7: you want to be here and you get arrested, why
Speaker 7: would I put you in this?
Speaker 3: Like I know what you're here for. It, Like I know,
Speaker 3: I just watched you like the sheriff, unless the sheriff
Speaker 3: is absolutely a but it doesn't.
Speaker 7: It never makes sense to me when people get like
Speaker 7: arrested to go inside a facility if somebody is trying
Speaker 7: to keep you outside and keep you from talking to
Speaker 7: the person.
Speaker 3: So I'm glad that they debunked that and his his
Speaker 3: plan just didn't work. But the conversation they.
Speaker 7: Would have and just gave me more of gave me
Speaker 7: more insight of John Stewart's like just the storicness and
Speaker 7: like how strict to the book he is, and he's
Speaker 7: he's respectful to a point though, Like I could feel
Speaker 7: him giving that pushback and I was, all right, he
Speaker 7: ain't just a good dude, like he just got a
Speaker 7: good do it and we saw we saw obviously when
Speaker 7: he left the bar.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: What I find is one of the reasons why I
Speaker 4: love being black. And I know this is a random
Speaker 4: and this is probably the goofiest reason I saw. I
Speaker 4: was hoping you will keep this behind Patreon, but I'm
Speaker 4: going to say it for the audience. The onely reason
Speaker 4: I love being black is, no matter what you know,
Speaker 4: when you can spot a nigga, and no matter how
Speaker 4: buttoned up they are, no matter no matter how militant,
Speaker 4: no matter how studious, whatever fifteen the words you want
Speaker 4: to use, there's gonna be a moment time where you
Speaker 4: see where he is.
Speaker 1: I knew you was in there, So for me, of course.
Speaker 4: I want to hear your thoughts on what you thought
Speaker 4: about How's actual origin story, because they summarized it essentially,
Speaker 4: that's how it works in the comics.
Speaker 1: But what, like, why was John being so friendly with
Speaker 1: the with the white lady, the older white lady at
Speaker 1: the bar.
Speaker 3: She wasn't even bad, bro, She's okay again.
Speaker 1: As he been.
Speaker 3: I think that. Would I get your point? Can I
Speaker 3: get it? I get I don't completely agree with it,
Speaker 3: but I also understand it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, free access too. So look, man, he just had
Speaker 5: to cut He caught a plane. He had to drive
Speaker 5: all the way over there, like.
Speaker 3: Stressed.
Speaker 5: He needed He almost died Nick, So he had to
Speaker 5: he had to get his vengeance on the white man somehow,
Speaker 5: some way.
Speaker 3: In number one way, he had to chase that white man.
Speaker 3: He had to run that white man down.
Speaker 1: That were appreciated it. Don't be a minister, but.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I was hoping they wouldn't go there, but
Speaker 5: they did, and we see, we learned the reasons why.
Speaker 5: I don't know why they worked put all this into
Speaker 5: the show. I don't even think it's necessary. Hopefully it
Speaker 5: pays off a couple of episodes later, but but yeah,
Speaker 5: I like the way that Howe told his story though.
Speaker 1: I thought that that was really really good.
Speaker 5: He once again got real serious and you're starting to
Speaker 5: see the different versions of him.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was that. That was good.
Speaker 5: And then you know, for all the comic book people
Speaker 5: out there, it is kind of good to go and
Speaker 5: hear the story. And then for people that's not too
Speaker 5: familiar with it, now they have an audible telling of
Speaker 5: the story as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought again, once we found out that there's
Speaker 4: aliens a foot in this town, I was saying, like
Speaker 4: she had alien why is he talking to her?
Speaker 12: Like?
Speaker 4: I thought it was like more strategic for why he
Speaker 4: was talking to her, like because remember he said, she said,
Speaker 4: are you one of those alien cops?
Speaker 1: Something like that.
Speaker 4: He was like, I never said we were alien, Like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like her, we were cops?
Speaker 4: Like it was kind of like I thought he was
Speaker 4: like doing his own version of an interrogation. But then
Speaker 4: once the scene ended with them in the but not
Speaker 4: even a backseat can it was? It was in the
Speaker 4: front seat of truck, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 4: he was like, all right, bro, you.
Speaker 1: Just you just who you are? Who you are? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But overall, let me before move on real quick, do
Speaker 4: y'all y'all mess with how Jordan at this point? Can
Speaker 4: you see why he's an interesting character? Do you think
Speaker 4: like you get you can't like root for him?
Speaker 1: Essentially? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, with it so far that fuck with him so far,
Speaker 3: Like I.
Speaker 7: Already went into it with my my bodas of all
Speaker 7: I know is John Stewart, So I don't give me
Speaker 7: more scream time with John Stewart.
Speaker 1: I don't care about how at all.
Speaker 3: But they convinced me to give a fuck about him,
Speaker 3: and I want I want to learn more about the character,
Speaker 3: not me.
Speaker 5: He's annoying and ship and there are reasons why, and
Speaker 5: I guess we'll we'll find him. But I think that's
Speaker 5: enough to to create a curiosity. But on the on
Speaker 5: the on the other side, you know, John Stewart is
Speaker 5: dry and stale and uninteresting, exactly, So it's it's a
Speaker 5: good contrast between the two. But but nah, nah, he's yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm yeah, he bossed me, asshole.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: Can Loua understand what I said.
Speaker 4: I'm a huge fan of the actor that plays how
Speaker 4: Jordan like is to exactly, That's what I'm saying, Like, like,
Speaker 4: he can do no wrong, So like him playing this
Speaker 4: role is actually really entertaining for those you are fans of.
Speaker 4: His most well known role is Friday Night Lights coach Taylor,
Speaker 4: So him being at the high school football field was
Speaker 4: interesting because that's.
Speaker 1: Pretty much what the whole serious is about.
Speaker 4: But uh, I'm messing with more than John Stewart at
Speaker 4: this point because, like you said, like he's he's playing
Speaker 4: the character so well that this is the reason why
Speaker 4: I see why no one likes John Stewart as like
Speaker 4: the green like their favorite Greenland or well know black
Speaker 4: folks do, just because he's the only brother that that
Speaker 4: we got. But Mike would hate him because he a cop. Yes,
Speaker 4: So but I like how Jordan.
Speaker 1: I like how Jordan.
Speaker 4: We didn't see, like you mentioned, Jay House plan work,
Speaker 4: but not in the way he wants it to, because
Speaker 4: he does get locked up. But we see the sheriff
Speaker 4: put him in a broom closet and has set him
Speaker 4: up to see a judge for bail.
Speaker 1: Ken, What were your thoughts on this courtroom scene. I
Speaker 1: liked it.
Speaker 5: They're adding more stuff to us or they're building out
Speaker 5: the story with this guy that Watson Apparently he must
Speaker 5: be the guy in the town Dad is another layer
Speaker 5: with the being the sheriff's husband, and it got him
Speaker 5: out of jail because he ended up putting himself in
Speaker 5: a situation where that's stupid as playing he coulncocted, which
Speaker 5: led to the nets scene and the other guy. So
Speaker 5: in terms of like storytelling, it's making sense in regards
Speaker 5: to how we get to certain places.
Speaker 4: They were your thoughts on the court room scene and
Speaker 4: the random I as a lawyer that came up to
Speaker 4: defend him Billy Macon, the.
Speaker 7: Way he came up, I thought he had to be
Speaker 7: a DC character and I thought maybe there's some significance
Speaker 7: the way he came up, But I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 7: but overall it didn't do anything for me.
Speaker 3: It was just like, all right, cool. It is a
Speaker 3: reminder of how really didn't give it. He don't give
Speaker 3: it a damn about jurisdiction and all that he's about
Speaker 3: his mission.
Speaker 7: He's focused, it's some importance going on, and he has
Speaker 7: gone a hold on what is happening, and that's all.
Speaker 7: It just reinforced me everything else. I didn't really have
Speaker 7: any anything that I really took from this scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I figured the way he was introduced, I was like,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't know this.
Speaker 4: I was like, because I was going through my DC
Speaker 4: well known people, I don't remember him, so maybe I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna go with it. I didn't want to research
Speaker 4: anything to get spoiled, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: at this point, I'm just like, if I don't remember him,
Speaker 4: then I'm hoping that there's a great reveal.
Speaker 1: To who he actually is or who his dad actually is.
Speaker 4: But it was interesting that I found out that he's
Speaker 4: when we find out that Billy is married to Kelly
Speaker 4: and that his dad is some rich rancher who lives
Speaker 4: close by and has invited him to dinner. Ken, what
Speaker 4: did you think of how Kelly was reacting when they
Speaker 4: were meeting Bill at the courthouse and how she didn't
Speaker 4: even mention that she was married to him, that's her husband,
Speaker 4: Like at.
Speaker 1: Least that's how I got it. No, she said that
Speaker 1: there was my husband. Yeah, but like reluctantly just marriage ship,
Speaker 1: Why why are you here? What are you doing here?
Speaker 1: Like come on? Like who sent you? Yeah? It was
Speaker 1: just like yeah and my trip and j.
Speaker 3: I don't think you trip it. I mean, it's just
Speaker 3: it's just I'm leaning into what Ken saying. He married.
Speaker 3: I ain't married ship, so I would let him.
Speaker 4: You can you know how the wife be. You know
Speaker 4: the women are who are married, they be like, I
Speaker 4: want you to love me enthusiastically. That was not an
Speaker 4: enthusiastic love or JESU. That's why I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Keep a eye on that.
Speaker 4: Probably get on her nerves, I'm sure. Yeah, but even then,
Speaker 4: even then, what were your thoughts on his dad? Will
Speaker 4: will make him?
Speaker 1: Make him man?
Speaker 5: He's interesting too, that that's the guy from me he
Speaker 5: was in I think he was a helix but I
Speaker 5: look it up. But he knows some ship and I
Speaker 5: don't know what he knows, what he's up to, but
Speaker 5: it's it's something and I don't know if he all well.
Speaker 1: He apparently he knows a lot of ship.
Speaker 5: But but yeah, he's gonna be an interesting character, because
Speaker 5: that's that's a it's not an A list actor or
Speaker 5: even maybe a B list actor, but he is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's one. Yeah if you know, you know
Speaker 1: kind of actors.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so he ain't he ain't here just because so
Speaker 5: it'll be interesting to see what they do with him.
Speaker 5: But he has a lot of seems like a lot
Speaker 5: of power and influence in that area.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I'm watching Lions right now and I'm
Speaker 1: catching up.
Speaker 3: On all lot of shit.
Speaker 7: So when she was talking about Owen favors and all
Speaker 7: that type of stuff, I was like, Oh, so some
Speaker 7: some some some corrupt shit going on. Nigga selling drugs
Speaker 7: and then seeing the militia when he drove up and
Speaker 7: seeing all that with the guns.
Speaker 1: I was wondering, like, what what exactly are they doing?
Speaker 7: Because I don't think you think you're gonna take on
Speaker 7: aliens with that guns. So that's why you got the
Speaker 7: green landing. Like Nick, it all makes sense, but I
Speaker 7: was like, there's something underlying here that I'm curious to
Speaker 7: know more about.
Speaker 3: The mom talking about it, it's just really what's really kept.
Speaker 7: I just wouldn't really want to know what the fuck
Speaker 7: is going on, Like, let's saw this as fast as possible.
Speaker 1: And and that's the true detective element. It's like, what
Speaker 1: is going on?
Speaker 4: But each scene, each way we inch towards it, it's
Speaker 4: as interesting as the last one. So I think that's
Speaker 4: how you can kind of keep people in suspense without
Speaker 4: annoying them with this, with this kind of way you
Speaker 4: tell a story, because everybody likes to find, you know,
Speaker 4: try to solve a crime on their own, and they
Speaker 4: want to see if they're right at the end. But
Speaker 4: that made me really interested in the conversation that Will
Speaker 4: and how had John was off in the back do
Speaker 4: on some goofy shit. But when Will was grilling the
Speaker 4: ribs and stuff like that, he was like he was
Speaker 4: talking to holl about He was like, Bru, you're really
Speaker 4: the one that kind of cracked open all this stuff
Speaker 4: because you now made us realize not only are we
Speaker 4: not the only ones in this universe, we're probably at
Speaker 4: the bottom of it when it comes to life and.
Speaker 1: Intelligence and all that.
Speaker 4: So Ken, he says something that I want you to
Speaker 4: react to, Like he said a white man line that
Speaker 4: doesn't really be used, that isn't used for anybody else
Speaker 4: but minorities, where he was like or he used the
Speaker 4: minority line that isn't really used by white man when
Speaker 4: he was like the one thing about conversation that it's bleak.
Speaker 4: But no matter what, the worst perspective of lanization is
Speaker 4: being colonized.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, that was that was a phenomenal.
Speaker 4: To me, that was a bar Yeah, well only only
Speaker 4: because not because of what he was saying, because that's
Speaker 4: an obvious thing, but it's because of who was saying that. Like,
Speaker 4: this looks like the most whitest man in America, white
Speaker 4: man on the rams rerialing on, you know, a rack
Speaker 4: of ribs, and he's saying like, I'm scared to be
Speaker 4: to be a nigga.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, he has a militia for
Speaker 5: a reason, so it's hard to say he's We don't
Speaker 5: know if he's an ally or not, but right now
Speaker 5: with that militia, it's hard to tell in a state
Speaker 5: like that. But he understands fully well the history of
Speaker 5: not only America but globally what colonization looks like. Now,
Speaker 5: imagine if that ship was in space and the muffleckers
Speaker 5: got all kind of shit that they don't have on
Speaker 5: Earth with our powers.
Speaker 1: It's just it'll be pretty damn bleak. And you're right,
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to go through that ship. Jay.
Speaker 4: You know what I was thinking of when he was saying,
Speaker 4: because you know, he kept HOWD kept on trying to
Speaker 4: ask him, like who does he work for?
Speaker 1: Who does he report to? You know what I was
Speaker 1: thinking because because I mentioned government, I was like, is
Speaker 1: that Amanda Waller?
Speaker 3: Mmm?
Speaker 4: And that's why she wants and that's why she wants
Speaker 4: the help from Greenlander because he's obviously it's a space
Speaker 4: cop and you know, Miranda, Amanda Waller knows how to
Speaker 4: deal with cops based being a government you know, like,
Speaker 4: and also she's aware that there's extraterrestrial stuff because she's
Speaker 4: Amanda Waller.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's not a bad guess and not bad. I mean,
Speaker 3: they just canceled the TV series, but.
Speaker 4: The but Marvel's doing the same thing too, and it
Speaker 4: seems like it's all the ship that had either a
Speaker 4: black lead or minority led like cast.
Speaker 1: So I'm not taking into government. To me, the Amanda
Speaker 1: Waller series is a layup though.
Speaker 7: Again I think it's the government bro like Warner Brothers
Speaker 7: is getting brought by Paramount Trump fuck with that, and
Speaker 7: we just see Bob I got with Trump, with the Lakers,
Speaker 7: I think all that ship tied together.
Speaker 3: But I think that's just my opinion.
Speaker 1: It could be who knows, uh, Ken, you shook your
Speaker 1: head at that Man and wall thing. Why, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't. I can't see how
Speaker 1: working for Man and Waller nobody wants to nobody.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly true, but she she tends to like to
Speaker 5: get people that she control. And Jacob he doesn't come
Speaker 5: across as one like that.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 5: I don't think he works for anybody. I think that
Speaker 5: that God just think that he must be working for
Speaker 5: somebody or with somebody.
Speaker 4: So so, what was y'all moving on to the goofy
Speaker 4: side of this, what was your reaction when everybody found
Speaker 4: out that John slept with his wife except for John?
Speaker 1: What did he say?
Speaker 3: There's nothing better than eating off another man's grill? Yeah,
Speaker 3: that ship there's hilarious.
Speaker 12: I mean, he went live about to say, ain't cute, but.
Speaker 14: It was just I don't know, man, I like the
Speaker 14: turn of events there, but a part of me is like,
Speaker 14: why are you dumb enough that to let that happen.
Speaker 1: But then it's like your nigga, you didn't know, will
Speaker 1: found out like the rest of us.
Speaker 7: But I wonder how you found out though, Like, yeah,
Speaker 7: how you found out? Is the other thing that I
Speaker 7: told mine.
Speaker 1: She probably told him. I think they got a relationship
Speaker 1: like that to where it's like, you.
Speaker 4: Know, when you're making that much money, them relationships are
Speaker 4: always a little fluid.
Speaker 1: Somebody snitched, Nick. It's not a lot of black people,
Speaker 1: and they were in the truck and outside of a
Speaker 1: big black motherfucker.
Speaker 5: So some once that white somebody whiten this or walking
Speaker 5: out with that black motherfucker.
Speaker 1: They were on the phone ace out.
Speaker 5: Yep, you're right, So I think somebody snitched, but gonna
Speaker 5: be freaking enough to tell. It's just why I work
Speaker 5: this into the story. And the other thing is did
Speaker 5: he fuck up his food? That's what I was trying
Speaker 5: to figure out. And if he did it on purpose, Well,
Speaker 5: he did it on purpose, But did he suck up
Speaker 5: his food?
Speaker 1: I can tell no.
Speaker 4: I mean he gave him tofu, so that was already
Speaker 4: messed up. You know what I'm saying, He'll get it.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you can make tofu great but
Speaker 4: we'll see. I thought it was interesting because again, like
Speaker 4: you mentioned that, it just shows how stupid John was, like,
Speaker 4: not only are you just messing around with anybody that
Speaker 4: you see in a new town, a new area, because
Speaker 4: even Will brought it up when he when they came
Speaker 4: into his house the first time, he was like, y'all,
Speaker 4: don't do no intel, like I know all this stuff
Speaker 4: about y'all, y'all just busting here, thinking.
Speaker 1: Like this could be a whole track. And you saw
Speaker 1: the guns, like.
Speaker 4: He's like, I don't care if you got the most
Speaker 4: you know, a nuclear bomb that's basically like a dragon
Speaker 4: on your finger, like you still got to do your homework.
Speaker 4: I thought that was an interesting scene the frame to
Speaker 4: point out, like because that was a shot at both
Speaker 4: of them. But later, uh later that everything we see
Speaker 4: that Hal and John head back to the car and
Speaker 4: Will tells How that he can go see the inmate,
Speaker 4: the president that's locked up, that How has been trying
Speaker 4: to see this whole time in the morning because he
Speaker 4: got some connections.
Speaker 3: Jay.
Speaker 4: After we move on to the next scene where we
Speaker 4: see holl and John meet up with Sheriff Kelly. What
Speaker 4: were your thoughts before we get to the interrogation scene
Speaker 4: when John said there are fourteen alien species that can
Speaker 4: look and be viewed as human from outside and inside,
Speaker 4: and then I.
Speaker 7: It just reminded me of men in black, like you
Speaker 7: remind me of men in black, Like all right now, y'all, y'all,
Speaker 7: y'are trying to say, like the shape shifters and Mike
Speaker 7: Martian man Hunter and all that. I was like, all right,
Speaker 7: we in this world. Let's let's let's get to it.
Speaker 7: That's more so how I felt when he said it.
Speaker 7: I didn't know where it was going from there. A
Speaker 7: part of me felt like how it was gonna be wrong,
Speaker 7: and I think they were. I thought it was gonna
Speaker 7: set me up to it, like, oh.
Speaker 3: This niggas just wrong. He just he off his rocker
Speaker 3: a little bit. So when he said it, it was
Speaker 3: just like me feeling more and more like, all right,
Speaker 3: they're trying to tell me he's gonna be wrong. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be a misdirection.
Speaker 7: But this right here, as far as like that, all
Speaker 7: I thought was martianman Hunter, like shape shift.
Speaker 3: There's another shape shift I know in DC, but I
Speaker 3: can't think of the name right now.
Speaker 7: But yeah, that's all I really thought about, is maybe
Speaker 7: they bringing in Marshall Manhunt at the.
Speaker 3: End and something like that.
Speaker 1: What did you think about the interrogation? Oh, go ahead,
Speaker 1: can I be Nah, that.
Speaker 5: Would be cool bringing in Marshall man Hunter. It's easy
Speaker 5: to do because he's just a shape shifter.
Speaker 1: No, I like that.
Speaker 5: It with this whole interrogation scene was really really dope
Speaker 5: because it's like, you know, Halla's right here and you're
Speaker 5: just waiting to see how he's going to break the guy,
Speaker 5: And I'm like, is he gonna have to use fours?
Speaker 5: Is he just going to be able to talk him
Speaker 5: into it? And we see he just he just basically
Speaker 5: just kept pressing him and pressing him into the guy.
Speaker 5: Just the alien just got fucking fed up. He was like,
Speaker 5: all right, you caught me. But and then he hit
Speaker 5: the well whether let's just say that I am lying
Speaker 5: or worded. Everybody was like damn, this was right. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so all of.
Speaker 7: This, you can't My mind started to change when John
Speaker 7: stut was like, nah, I think he's right.
Speaker 3: But when that nigga asked him about Obama, he was jay.
Speaker 4: He was like, it's twenty sixteen and you don't got
Speaker 4: an opinion on black, who's saying Obama in Nebraska?
Speaker 1: Like he was like, what I'm saying, you don't belong here.
Speaker 4: It was it was the most it was the most
Speaker 4: accurate thing because it was it was not it was
Speaker 4: everything else he said. Once he said Nebraska, it was
Speaker 4: like everything he said before them was like it makes
Speaker 4: the most perfect sense why he thinks he's alien, Like
Speaker 4: because he trying to get him on like some you know,
Speaker 4: pop culture stuff like what do you think about Harry Potter?
Speaker 4: He was trying to do like thea basket football history
Speaker 4: and all that stuff, Like it was stuff that you
Speaker 4: can kind of easily Wikipedia and all that. But when
Speaker 4: he was asking like real political thoughts and like or
Speaker 4: like a real human answer, he didn't get a human response.
Speaker 3: Man, the Harry Potter one.
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe he don't know how Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, get what.
Speaker 3: He was trying to do.
Speaker 7: But even in the like the other questions he was
Speaker 7: asking about, like football, He's like, so you like football
Speaker 7: so much from where you're from, you can't watch a
Speaker 7: rivalry football game. All that made like I was like,
Speaker 7: all right, yeah, he lying, But that question of Barock boy,
Speaker 7: that shit took me out because you right there.
Speaker 3: It was like you live in Nebraska and don't and
Speaker 3: ruled Nebraska, don't have no no opinion on Barack Obama.
Speaker 1: You could just tell me he the forty fourth president.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, nigga, he was a fucking alien like that shit.
Speaker 3: They took me out.
Speaker 1: What's your thoughts here?
Speaker 5: It's brilliant writing because you kind of got it as
Speaker 5: soon as he said it, because like that just doesn't
Speaker 5: exist anywhere in the world. Definitely the owner so and
Speaker 5: especially you a yes. And then we drilled down further,
Speaker 5: especially where he's at. It's just it's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 5: So you know, those guys are programmed to have all
Speaker 5: the answers to everything, so they don't really have strong opinions.
Speaker 5: But so they got to get that right so that
Speaker 5: somebody gonna send that back and say, like, we need
Speaker 5: to have opinions on politics one way or the others.
Speaker 5: We don't get caught like that.
Speaker 1: But no, it was it was. It was really good.
Speaker 5: It was really good because you didn't know what answer,
Speaker 5: what what what would be the one that trip him up?
Speaker 1: And it just happened to be that one.
Speaker 5: Leave it to a black man's exactly exactly one way
Speaker 5: or the other.
Speaker 1: Ken Were you surprised that he actually blew up because
Speaker 1: I thought he was bluffing on that one suicidur mission? Nah?
Speaker 1: Nah No, I was bri I think it made sense
Speaker 1: we're goin to blow up.
Speaker 7: I thought I thought he was bluffing too, like even
Speaker 7: him asking how like he be charger ringing and been
Speaker 7: out here for a couple of days, like you may
Speaker 7: not even have charge. The back and forth of that,
Speaker 7: the way it went from being funny about the Barack
Speaker 7: Obama piece to the intensity of it and then going
Speaker 7: back and forth as far as one trying to call
Speaker 7: the other one's bluff was great, Like it felt seamless,
Speaker 7: and it's hard to.
Speaker 3: It's hard to make that transition happen a lot of
Speaker 3: times on screen, like you can probably write it, but like.
Speaker 7: For me, the MCU has been struggling with it as
Speaker 7: a late like that make you laugh, but it'll take
Speaker 7: you out of a serious ass scene. This one right
Speaker 7: here it felt perfect as far as like, yeah, this
Speaker 7: is still serious, but I'm laughing because I get the
Speaker 7: inside joke of it. Why it's so damn funny, But
Speaker 7: it's still a serious matter that's happening. And yeah, every
Speaker 7: piece of this was this whole scene was just great,
Speaker 7: but they capped it off, and I'm just like, all right,
Speaker 7: I want more.
Speaker 3: Of this shit, Like, just give me more of this world.
Speaker 4: And on top of that, like they're dropping lore in
Speaker 4: an interrogation scene because you learned that lanternsy to have
Speaker 4: h they need to recharge their ring. The ring isn't
Speaker 4: just unlimited power, and you actually have to have an
Speaker 4: actual fucking lantern. And if you know about anything about
Speaker 4: green lantern lore, the lantern has used like a spare tire.
Speaker 4: Like people be like, damn, I forgot to bring that,
Speaker 4: Like when they when they had a juice, they just
Speaker 4: turned into a regular dude with an ugly ring.
Speaker 1: So it's just like it's very interesting.
Speaker 4: Like I like how they dropped the lore in a
Speaker 4: scene that you're just paying attention to everything else but that.
Speaker 1: And I was again surprised that they blew up. But
Speaker 1: he blew up. He was right.
Speaker 4: He was like, bro, how do you not know my
Speaker 4: blast radius? Isn't the whole damn town so like? And
Speaker 4: it damned it looked like it did because he while
Speaker 4: he buried them in you know behind the ring. I
Speaker 4: think it was trying to put like a stone wall
Speaker 4: around him. He still blew back, and it blew up
Speaker 4: the whole air basement area and half of the downtown area.
Speaker 1: Not in a big explosion, but just enough to know
Speaker 1: that something exploded.
Speaker 7: The guy's experiences, most people just made the force feel
Speaker 7: around the people there. He's like, nah, I got to
Speaker 7: contain the black that it makes more sense to contain
Speaker 7: the blast and like the shield with people.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So we got confirmation that there are aliens in Rushville, Nebraska,
Speaker 4: but before we see what happens next, we jumped forward
Speaker 4: in time. So we jumped ten years later in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty six, and we see an older John Stewart with
Speaker 4: an older sheriff Kelly back in Rushville, Nebraska during what
Speaker 4: it seems like wintertime. He got the John Stewart mustache
Speaker 4: that you think you see in Justice League Unlimited. And
Speaker 4: we learned that there's only one person who's seen the
Speaker 4: crime scene that they're about to walk up into, and
Speaker 4: that's the I think the if she said the janitor
Speaker 4: or something like the groundskeeper. And what we find out
Speaker 4: is that we see a dead how Jordan shot in
Speaker 4: the head and sitting in the snow ken What was
Speaker 4: your thoughts on how we ended this episode.
Speaker 5: I was shocked because I did not expect that he
Speaker 5: was such a pivotal part of this whole episode and
Speaker 5: they took him out just like that. So, uh, he
Speaker 5: lost his job, So John John has to take over.
Speaker 5: But now really curious to see how he's a well
Speaker 5: known he's a known actor, uh, based on what you
Speaker 5: guys said, so they're definitely gonna.
Speaker 1: Probably do the time travel back and forth to keep
Speaker 1: him part of the show.
Speaker 5: But I'm like, now, it's like, now it's it's on you, John,
Speaker 5: Let's see if you learned anything during the last couple
Speaker 5: of years that they.
Speaker 1: Have been live.
Speaker 5: But but nah, it definitely caught me on guard because
Speaker 5: I didn't expect that. I thought we were going to
Speaker 5: get this sort of buddy cop thing for the rest
Speaker 5: of the series. And yeah, it's like, no, sir and
Speaker 5: Jay before you go.
Speaker 4: What I like, what I found brilliant about the ending
Speaker 4: of this episode is that they backed themselves into a
Speaker 4: corner when they when Hale said, like broil until I die,
Speaker 4: you can't get the ring. Essentially, so the whole point
Speaker 4: of training him is like for when I do die,
Speaker 4: So it's like that's why it's It was brilliant to
Speaker 4: end it this way, to say like he yeah, John,
Speaker 4: because we all know John Stewart gonna get a ring,
Speaker 4: but it's not gonna be in like a fairy tale
Speaker 4: goofy way, like all the Guardians can are allowing two
Speaker 4: cops and on Earth. Now it's like, nah, bro, it's
Speaker 4: the same way we said it was somebody gotta get popped,
Speaker 4: and we really see that he got popped. And I
Speaker 4: thought it was brilliant to show that, like John is
Speaker 4: eventually going to become who we think he is, but
Speaker 4: it's gonna look ugly in the middle.
Speaker 1: What you think, Jay, Nah?
Speaker 3: I agree with you.
Speaker 7: Like it caught me by surprises to see how it
Speaker 7: was gone. But again that's what made me appreciate the
Speaker 7: Holler game eymore. Just like I don't want to y'all
Speaker 7: may not like this character as much as I do
Speaker 7: right now, but I don't want to see this character
Speaker 7: it disappears based off what I've seen in the first episode.
Speaker 3: So if there's a way for the.
Speaker 7: Character to continue to be around in some type of way,
Speaker 7: basically coaching John I'm down for it, but it did
Speaker 7: take me by as a product.
Speaker 3: Damnick til that ain't off the board already. And in
Speaker 3: the back of my mind I knew he was reviewing.
Speaker 3: We already talk to our review the like I know,
Speaker 3: niggahood is shit. This nigga gone already, somebody off the board.
Speaker 1: All I'm conflicted.
Speaker 4: I'm conflicted Jay, because I love I love this actor, like,
Speaker 4: I really love how he does it. The crazy thing is,
Speaker 4: in most of the shows he in, it goes this way,
Speaker 4: he gets popped.
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is in his contract, so you
Speaker 1: don't so.
Speaker 4: He can always have more gigs, but he always gets
Speaker 4: and he's like one of the best parts of every
Speaker 4: show that he's in. And then somehow somebody be like, nah,
Speaker 4: were gonna take them off, and it's like all right.
Speaker 4: So I think, to me, the way they're doing the
Speaker 4: John and how thing with the hologram stuff around too
Speaker 4: much of like Man of Steel where we see Henry
Speaker 4: Cavill superman like get coached by his dad and all
Speaker 4: that stuff like Kryptonian technology.
Speaker 1: So I think that they kind of copy that idea
Speaker 1: a bit.
Speaker 4: Obviously, the show was copied from a lot of other shows,
Speaker 4: but at least if you're gonna copy somebody, do it
Speaker 4: in the Kobe version, where like, yeah, we know where
Speaker 4: where you got your stuff from, but you still executed
Speaker 4: on all that, you know what I mean? So I again,
Speaker 4: I loved how we had it. I don't know who
Speaker 4: killed the next qeresson. I ask who I think killed how?
Speaker 4: But I guess we got too many things to kind
Speaker 4: of figure out first that would kind of lead us
Speaker 4: to that answer. But I'll be curious to think if
Speaker 4: it's the aliens or because it's a bullet hole, so
Speaker 4: it could be a human, like you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 4: it's just I think there's It leaves it open to
Speaker 4: like who killed the first Greenland.
Speaker 5: I didn't think about. I completely forgot about the AI
Speaker 5: or the hologram or whatever the thing is. Jalen, that's
Speaker 5: that's how you can keep them around. That's damn. That's
Speaker 5: pretty good. Damn, that's actually pretty good.
Speaker 1: I like that. That doesn't hell though? Do you say that?
Speaker 1: Do you just say that that? That may not be?
Speaker 1: When I asked, be hell because Troy got three, John
Speaker 1: got three, but no no one got the ring.
Speaker 3: He got excited and ring with.
Speaker 1: Damn John a asshole j Bro.
Speaker 4: He looked at him, He looked at him for one
Speaker 4: hard second that his little mini condolences.
Speaker 1: Whatever he got, So maybe maybe it's alien.
Speaker 3: No, I would have said, what that damn nigga you
Speaker 3: said was out here.
Speaker 1: Working exactly exactly what you look at me, nigga, I
Speaker 1: got a damn I got a goddamn green Lennen ring.
Speaker 4: But but I thought again, I was like, because everybody
Speaker 4: knows what Greenlander is at this time, it's like what
Speaker 4: thirty forty years after he introduced himself to the world,
Speaker 4: so like they know what his ring can do and
Speaker 4: what you know, if you got it, you got it.
Speaker 4: You know the theory is brilliant. That's what Drake said.
Speaker 4: But you got quickly wrap up and Jay, I'm sorry
Speaker 4: I wasn't as good as you. I couldn't get us
Speaker 4: out for you. But are you all excited about how
Speaker 4: the series is going and how things are being played out?
Speaker 4: Do you have this episode increase your anticipation or like
Speaker 4: your thoughts of the overall series or it's just still
Speaker 4: something that you're like, I got to see more before
Speaker 4: I say anything, like I.
Speaker 3: Said in this episode, man, I'm excited, Bro, I'm here
Speaker 3: for it.
Speaker 7: Like my expectations were pretty high for it compared to
Speaker 7: like a lot of people around me.
Speaker 3: But for me right now, I'm feeling good about what
Speaker 3: this series on.
Speaker 5: My expectations were waiting to see, and they did a
Speaker 5: good job of hooking with the first episode. So now
Speaker 5: I'm curious to see, like how much Gring Lantern usage
Speaker 5: we get and having the ring maybe maybe him hunting
Speaker 5: for the ring is a good way to not have
Speaker 5: us look for look to see him use the ring,
Speaker 5: But we've got to see him do more with the
Speaker 5: ring instead of giving white women or giving people a.
Speaker 4: Light you know, yeah, I want because like Jay, you
Speaker 4: kept bringing this up for a Tom Howland spider Man,
Speaker 4: you was like, brou he got these special suits too early,
Speaker 4: like like when when can I see him be Spider Man?
Speaker 1: When can I see him struggle?
Speaker 4: And we start off the gate like house whole partners, Like, Bro,
Speaker 4: before you get this ring, I need to see if
Speaker 4: you actually a good cop?
Speaker 1: Can you be a good cop?
Speaker 4: Can you can you actually because he was like what
Speaker 4: he was like if and when are the two biggest
Speaker 4: questions that you're going to have to answer when it
Speaker 4: comes to how you use this ring. And I was like,
Speaker 4: I thought that was a brilliant line that he said,
Speaker 4: because that is true, like anybody who has that ring on,
Speaker 4: It's like if it us bro, I'm using that to
Speaker 4: move through Atlanta traffic.
Speaker 1: I'm using that, you know, I'm using it for movies.
Speaker 3: I'm not using I can't find the remote.
Speaker 7: I'm using that.
Speaker 4: I'm using it for the most peddiest reasons ever, but
Speaker 4: for someone who is taking it very seriously, Like again,
Speaker 4: if and when are gonna be the times that you
Speaker 4: need to decide when, like you're gonna use this powerful weapon.
Speaker 1: So I like how things are being played out.
Speaker 4: I'm curious to see how what would be revealed because
Speaker 4: I do think at this point there are gonna be
Speaker 4: shaped shisters And what's the best way to introduce Martian
Speaker 4: Manhunter than through this show as a true detective show.
Speaker 4: I think that's brilliant. So yeah, I'm excited for it.
Speaker 4: Any other thoughts on this episode or lances in general.
Speaker 4: Next week, We're ready.
Speaker 1: So again, we don't know if we're gonna be doing
Speaker 1: this week to week more.
Speaker 4: Than like you probably are, but if not, please make
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Speaker 4: And yeah, we'll catch you on the next episode.
Speaker 1: We out peace, Peace