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Speaker 1: You're under sixteen, you can say goodbye to social media

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Speaker 1: unless mom and dad say it's okay. There was a

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Speaker 1: new state law that was passed this session and it

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Speaker 1: created some social media restrictions for kids. Starting next year,

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Speaker 1: kids under sixteen could no longer use popular social media

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Speaker 1: sites unless those sites get the okay directly from mom

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Speaker 1: and dad. And this week Governor Mike Brown it's signing

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Speaker 1: that bill into law and that's going to create these

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Speaker 1: restrictions for Indiana kids. So, yeah, we're limiting social media

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Speaker 1: for kids sixteen and under. It's meant to protect children.

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Speaker 1: But here's the question. Is it turning the state into

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Speaker 1: a digital referee of childhood?

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is. I've been against this since it was

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Speaker 2: first discussed early on in the legislative session because this

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Speaker 2: is the government looking to solve a problem that parents

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Speaker 2: should be solving. This shouldn't be the government getting involved

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Speaker 2: in this. And so if I am a parent and

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Speaker 2: I want to go through the process of allowing my

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Speaker 2: kid to access social media, what do I have to do.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to I assume I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 2: upload photo ID and documents, and now I'm relying on

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Speaker 2: that social media entity to protect my privacy and all

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Speaker 2: of my information that I've uploaded to potential data breaches

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Speaker 2: that exist out there. And by the way, just so

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Speaker 2: that you know, kids are pretty smart when it comes

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Speaker 2: to digital devices.

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna guess that if some kid wants to work around,

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Speaker 3: wants to use you know, AI created licenses and documents

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Speaker 3: and age verification systems and maybe a VPN to get

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Speaker 3: around this, I'm gonna guess it's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be pretty easy for kids to get around this process.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this is going to require age verification, parental consent,

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Speaker 1: and also platform compliance. But in doing so, as you've mentioned,

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Speaker 1: it's shifting the responsibility away from families to the government,

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Speaker 1: and it does raise these privacy concerns. And it's also

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Speaker 1: applying a one size fits all digital parenting model, and

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Speaker 1: that's not.

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Speaker 2: Necessarily the case.

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Speaker 1: For we know, children are individuals and each one is

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Speaker 1: different well.

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Speaker 2: And that's why it should be up to the parents

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Speaker 2: to decide this. It shouldn't be up to the government

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Speaker 2: to regulate it. Oh and by the way, the other

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Speaker 2: states that have done this faced a lot of legal challenges.

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Speaker 2: Some of them have been blocked and are still tied

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Speaker 2: up in court. Some of them have been overturned outright.

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Speaker 2: And so the idea that this is in all the

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Speaker 2: time and money that we're spending on this is something

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Speaker 2: that's going to end up being a law that survives

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Speaker 2: a legal challenge. No, that's still a big question to

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Speaker 2: this as well.

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Speaker 1: So the law is going to apply to a lot

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Speaker 1: of major social media platforms like Instagram, TikTok, Facebook and others.

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Speaker 1: Did I get the age wrong? Is it fifteen and

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Speaker 1: under or is it sixteen?

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Speaker 2: And everything I've said is I've seen is sixteen and under.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I just want to make sure clear on this

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Speaker 1: that we have the right information for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at a story from WAMETV in.

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Speaker 1: Four they're saying fifteen in under.

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Speaker 2: And others are saying sixteen and under. So I think

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Speaker 2: it is to be determined. And you know, let's not

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Speaker 2: let details get into the way here of government overreach. Again,

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Speaker 2: this is a problem that parents can solve and should

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Speaker 2: be able to solve on their own, not creating new

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Speaker 2: laws and new regulations for the government to try and enforce.

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Speaker 1: With what you've got here is you've got the state

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Speaker 1: redefining childhood boundaries online instead of mom and dad. Now

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Speaker 1: Aaron Houchin representative, she had something to say about this.

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Speaker 4: I go back again to my mission of having an

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Speaker 4: age at least an age sixteen standard for access to

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Speaker 4: these platforms. Anything less than that creates tremendous loopholes that

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Speaker 4: the tech companies will exploit. These provisions and the Broader

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Speaker 4: Kids Act package represent the kind of comprehensive and durable

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Speaker 4: federal framework that families are hoping for. I know it's

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Speaker 4: not perfect, but the research is clear, the harm is documented,

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Speaker 4: and the technology is not going to slow down.

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Speaker 1: So she wants it to be sixteen and under. She

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Speaker 1: said that the most dangerous years for children on social

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Speaker 1: media are between the ages of eleven and fifteen, and

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Speaker 1: that the threshold should be even higher.

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Speaker 2: Well, what I hate about this too, is it normalizes

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Speaker 2: this concept of us having to prove who we are

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Speaker 2: to do anything online. I think most people like the

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Speaker 2: fact that you can be online and you can be

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Speaker 2: pretty anonymous. I can search the Internet and I can

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Speaker 2: be anonymous, and I can go on these websites and

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Speaker 2: social media and it doesn't have to be me. I

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Speaker 2: think most Americans would agree with that. I don't think

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Speaker 2: we want to get into a situation where all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, government mandated ID checks start creeping into society

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Speaker 2: and events apply to.

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Speaker 1: Everybody, not everything, except for when you vote. That should

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Speaker 1: be you should have to have an ID for that.

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Speaker 2: Well, absolutely, I think those are two completely different things.

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Speaker 2: Of Course, you should have an ID to vote, because

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Speaker 2: I'm having to sit here and prove who I am.

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't have to have an ID if I want

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Speaker 2: to pull up Fox News website