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Speaker 2: Or power.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna lookomotive.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we'll believe Paul buildings at a single down look

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Speaker 2: in the sky.

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Speaker 3: It's a bird Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln for Bingus, Nana Bana,

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Speaker 3: BEng Gun baby homing gun Lincoln. They say this cat

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Speaker 3: Lincoln is a bad mother. We're just talking about Lincoln.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, good morning. Happy Thursday, twelve thirty

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Speaker 3: The Buzz of Cincinnati, your talk station. It's the Lincoln

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Speaker 3: Ware Show. Terrence Howard filling in for Lincoln Ware. It's Thursday.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad to be here and we have a lot

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Speaker 3: Of course, I'll be here till noon today. The last

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Speaker 3: I've got a special guest for the whole hour from

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Speaker 3: eleven to noon. You'll be calling in. Also, if you

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Speaker 3: called in yesterday, you can call in today and tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: So at least for these two days you have Ozzy

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Speaker 3: and Mississippi James privileges. So also we've got prizes to

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Speaker 3: give away to Chad, so we got to catch up

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Speaker 3: on those. We'll probably give away about two of them,

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Speaker 3: Lincoln tomorrow. I don't know what is going on with

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Speaker 3: Lincoln and these prizes. I made sure to print out

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Speaker 3: all the giveaways that we have, all the liners, but

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna kick off with some with some local

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Speaker 3: to hear your thoughts on the Cincinnati Police FOP President

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Speaker 3: Five to one three seven four nine one two three zero.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing. If I were to slap

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I would have been in handcuffs very quickly.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I would have been charged with something serious.

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Speaker 3: And I really hate the way that the right wing

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Speaker 3: media and the Cincinnati police are downplaying the slap. If

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Speaker 3: hear about the the semi that jack knife down on

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Speaker 3: was reported from a WCPO Channel nine. Lincoln Heights council

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Speaker 3: member was reinstated after court rules removal illegal. A Lincoln

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Speaker 3: after judge ruled his removal from office was improper and

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Speaker 3: he's back on council. Durrance said he is now focused

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Speaker 3: don't know if you remember Durrance Chad, But yeah, he

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Speaker 3: So I'm happy for him that he got his seat restored.

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Speaker 3: How angry do you have to be to want to stab?

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Speaker 3: Hamilton County Prosecutor Connie Pillage and also the Cincinnati Police

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Paris. Nicky Harris. Nicky Hare is wanted by

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Speaker 4: the Ohio Adult Parole Authority where a felony parole violation.

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Speaker 4: Mister Harris was originally charged with robbery. Nicky Harris is

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Speaker 4: a male black thirty eight years old. He's five ten

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Speaker 3: All right, forty night or day cash money for your

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Speaker 5: Good morning, Hey, good morning, brother Terrence. How are you

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Speaker 3: I'm freezing, as you can see.

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Speaker 5: With that t move cat and that hat hat.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, yes, sir.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but today I'm actually in Sierra's Neck of the

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Speaker 1: Oh really Yeah, just.

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Speaker 5: Dropped off our son continuing on with his ice hockey,

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Speaker 5: You know, Bray for the best of him. One to

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Speaker 3: So yes, sir, keep them focused, Keep them focused.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And yesterday I was popping in and out and everything,

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Speaker 1: There was a bigger story that didn't get any publicity.

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Speaker 5: At all during the music festival. Apparently Ron Doula got

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Speaker 3: But I appreciate the call man. Have a safety back home,

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Speaker 3: Prices are just skyrocketing, just getting out a hand out

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Speaker 3: Twelve thirty The Buzz of Cincinnati your Talk Station, Sarrence

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Speaker 3: Trump's tariffs are causing high vegetable prices. And this time

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Speaker 3: If you win money at the casino, your name comes

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Speaker 3: Like in this case, the system ensures that custodial parents

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Speaker 3: He got lucky. He won all of his money, He

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Speaker 11: I'm going to respect parent. Thanks for taking my call. Yes, sir, yeah,

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Speaker 1: The FOP.

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Speaker 10: Guy, his energy wasn't the same on our station.

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Speaker 3: That's what I heard.

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Speaker 11: I mean, So, I mean, right there, it tells you

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Speaker 11: that there's two different agendas. Yes, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 11: know why they do that, Like we don't listen down

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Speaker 11: to down, and don't nobody listen down to down listen

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Speaker 11: to what they're talking about. But I mean, just like

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Speaker 11: they listened to you know, what we're talking about. But

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Speaker 11: it's unfortunate because we're gonna have a whole bunch of

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Speaker 11: we're gonna have the black community getting screwed again because

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Speaker 11: there's two there's two different laws.

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Speaker 1: For the city.

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Speaker 11: Just like you mentioned, if you or I went up

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Speaker 11: to a white woman a smack, yeah, we'd be in jail, yes, sir,

446
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Speaker 11: and we would have you know, probably a high bond too,

447
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Speaker 11: regardless whether or not she did anything to us provoked

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Speaker 11: the situation. Everything will lie on us, and it's our

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Speaker 11: responsibility to turn the other cheek walk the other way.

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Speaker 11: Why didn't you just called nine one one? Why didn't

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Speaker 11: you do us that? That's our responsibility as we're getting

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Speaker 11: beaten down and provoked.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so, I mean.

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Speaker 11: That's that's what I expected. I expected them to say

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Speaker 11: exactly what they said. I expected them to do exactly

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Speaker 11: what they did. Yeah, but I don't expect us to

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Speaker 11: take it. Yeah, now to say, you know, what do

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Speaker 11: we do and what what.

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Speaker 1: Don't we do?

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Speaker 11: We we really got to break away from a system

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Speaker 11: that doesn't benefit us, you know what I mean? We

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Speaker 11: get on every year, we have these stories, we have

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Speaker 11: these shootings, we have these situations, and still bow down

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Speaker 11: to the same system that we don't like. Now, I'm

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Speaker 11: not saying that I'm exempt. I'm just saying collectively, we

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Speaker 11: gotta do it. We gotta do it collectively. Like every

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Speaker 11: other nationality they look out for themselves. Collectively, we gotta

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Speaker 11: do the same thing and not be apologetic about it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I totally agree.

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Speaker 11: But I appreciate you know the time, I know you're

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Speaker 11: up against a break so you know, just we you know,

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Speaker 11: a fortunate thing is we got to stay positive amongst ourselves,

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Speaker 11: you know, and what that looks like is we gotta

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Speaker 11: be dealing with ourselves. You know, we got to support ourselves,

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Speaker 11: you know, I mean, if we don't do that, we

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Speaker 11: can't complain. We keep running back to the other folks,

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Speaker 11: you know, for their opinions and for their guidance, then yes,

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Speaker 11: we're gonna be on the short end. They don't have

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Speaker 11: our best interest at mine, I mean at mine. Somebody

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Speaker 11: calls any black person the N word is gonna provoke

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Speaker 11: something in Yes, and especially if you got an accent,

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Speaker 11: yes sir, yes, sir, and knowing the history of I

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Speaker 11: don't want to say certain people. But you know, if

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Speaker 11: you if you're gonna call me that unprovoked, I mean,

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Speaker 11: it's no telling what you do. Yes, it's no telling

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Speaker 11: what you will do if you think you if you

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Speaker 11: think you're gonna come around a group of black people

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Speaker 11: and say I'll take all of you on, and then

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Speaker 11: you know your your dreams get unfulfilled.

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Speaker 1: And now you want to.

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Speaker 11: Cry nah, Yes, you know, I mean, what what are

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Speaker 11: we supposed to do in that situation?

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Speaker 10: Walk away, turn the other cheek, you know, go ahead and.

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Speaker 11: Hit me again. I mean, it's it's ridiculous. It's it's

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Speaker 11: ridiculous that we're even sitting here talking about it because

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Speaker 11: the prosecutor, she says, she doesn't even have just to

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Speaker 11: you know, really give a say Soul City. But then

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Speaker 11: the FOP guy says, oh, yes she does. You know,

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Speaker 11: we we've been in contact with the prosecutor's office and

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Speaker 11: and Lonnie down. So when the situation happened in Woodlaw,

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Speaker 11: I mean, and even there with the KKK neil Nazis,

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Speaker 11: she didn't have any say so for that either. She

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Speaker 11: just passed the buck. It's somebody else. It's oh, it's

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Speaker 11: somebody else. Somebody else got to handle that. Somebody else

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Speaker 11: got to do that. We don't handle that in my office. See,

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Speaker 11: my hot office is so big. You know there's another

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Speaker 11: group that does that. They didn't only become them my desk. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: that sounds like that's not But now if that's not

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Speaker 11: a lie, I mean, you know, they'll sell us anything. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 11: Why did you even get into the position if nothing

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Speaker 11: comes across your desk and you don't have to say

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Speaker 11: so to nothing?

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, al I appreciate the call I got. I'm

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Speaker 3: running lay for breaking my brother, but I agree with it.

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Speaker 3: I agree with what I agree. I agree with what

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Speaker 3: you're saying. Man, you really hit a lot of points home.

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Speaker 3: So I appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate your time, my brother, take take care.

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Speaker 3: Now, all right, there was al checking in. We're up

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Speaker 3: on the break and coming up at eleven. I got

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Speaker 3: a special guest that's gonna be on for an hour.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to try to run through the calls

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Speaker 3: and get everything set up for my guests coming up

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Speaker 3: at eleven. If they decide to call in, they something

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Speaker 3: may have changed. But I'm hoping that they call in

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Speaker 3: at eleven. But until we come back from break, I'm

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Speaker 3: tearing soured in for lincoln Ware. On The Lincoln Ware

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Speaker 3: Show on twelve thirty The Buzz.

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Speaker 12: Several of us Epstein survivors have been discussing creating our

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Speaker 12: own list of names.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we know the names.

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Speaker 11: Many of us were abused by them.

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Speaker 13: Jeffrey Epstein. Sexual abuse survivors and their family members shared

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Speaker 13: their stories in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 13: This comes as the House voted two twelve to two

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Speaker 13: oz Wit to approve a measure directing the House Oversight

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Speaker 13: Committee to continue its ongoing investigation into the Epstein case.

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Speaker 13: Let's bring in CBS News Congressional correspondent Kaitlin Huey Burns

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Speaker 13: joining us live now from Capitol Hill. Kaitlin, thank you

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Speaker 13: for being with us. What do we know about this

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Speaker 13: latest push by Congress to get more transparency when it

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Speaker 13: comes to the Epstein case.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is.

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Speaker 12: Something that leadership up here on Capitol Hill had hoped

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Speaker 12: would die down on the Republican side during the recess,

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Speaker 12: and it really didn't. In fact, it intensified, and yesterday

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Speaker 12: a bipartisan push to gather signatures for a discharge petition

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Speaker 12: gain steam, which a discharge petition essentially you have to

550
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Speaker 12: get two hundred and eighteen signatures and then that would

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Speaker 12: force a vote on the House floor, and in this case,

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Speaker 12: to vote to release all of the Epstein files. Now,

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Speaker 12: what happened yesterday was the Oversight Committee released thirty three

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Speaker 12: thousand pages of documents related to that case. They had

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Speaker 12: subpoena the Justice Department for those documents, they got them

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Speaker 12: and released them last night. Not a ton was new

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Speaker 12: there and were still combing through them. But from the

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Speaker 12: perspective of House Republican leadership, they would like that to

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Speaker 12: be the avenue where this goes, and they're hoping that

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Speaker 12: that will quell the calls from some members of the

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Speaker 12: base for more of these documents to be released. So

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Speaker 12: by this vote today, they essentially agreed that the House

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Speaker 12: Oversight Committee will continue this investigation. And this is meant

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Speaker 12: to deter any Republicans from signing on to that discharge petition.

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Speaker 12: And the White House has also gotten involved contacting members

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Speaker 12: who may have signed that or may have been inclined

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Speaker 12: to sign that petition to say doing so would be

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Speaker 12: essentially a slap in the face to the White House

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Speaker 12: and Donald Trump, and that the appropriate avenue, in their view,

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Speaker 12: is to go through the Oversight Committee.

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Speaker 8: Here.

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Speaker 12: That is what the message is coming in, as you

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Speaker 12: just saw it passed on the House floor.

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Speaker 13: Now, Caitlin, you mentioned there wasn't really anything new in

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Speaker 13: this thirty four thousand page document, So what.

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Speaker 14: Was in it?

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Speaker 12: That's right, and we're still kind of combing through this,

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Speaker 12: but a lot of this was already seen in previous

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Speaker 12: dumps of information. The bottom line here is that the

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Speaker 12: Oversight Committee would like to keep going with this and

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Speaker 12: they are ready to subpoena for more documents, so that

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Speaker 12: will be the place to look for for additional information

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Speaker 12: coming out. But the Oversight committee, of course, is chaired

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Speaker 12: by Republicans. Democrats are arguing that it will kind of

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Speaker 12: be mired in politics and it won't be able to

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Speaker 12: gather all of the information, all of the documents out there,

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Speaker 12: and their argument is that the White House could be

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Speaker 12: in charge of releasing those. So still a lot of

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Speaker 12: partisan politics being played here. And I should note also

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Speaker 12: that Democrats have really seized a political opening, you know. Notably,

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Speaker 12: they didn't call for this before Trump was in office.

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Speaker 12: This is something that kind of festered on the right,

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Speaker 12: but Democrats have certainly seized this opportunity and are looking

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Speaker 12: for any sort of political advantage and are trying to

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Speaker 12: see it through this one.

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Speaker 13: Kayld Huary Burns, thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's CBS News audio. So the House votes

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Speaker 3: two twelve to two o eight to approve an Epstein

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Speaker 3: probe measure. So there's some movement on this Epstein investigation

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Speaker 3: and to get more information out, they're getting the victims

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Speaker 3: together and they're going to hear all of their stories

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Speaker 3: and they're going to get this information about who Epstein

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Speaker 3: dealt with all of the the hidden celebrities or whoever

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Speaker 3: he dealt with in this crazy sex abuse scandal. Those

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Speaker 3: names are gonna finally come out to the public once

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Speaker 3: these victims get interviewed by the House. So there's some

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Speaker 3: movement on the Epstein files. We're up on a break.

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Speaker 3: Let's see White Line, Rick Junior run Doulah. Probably not

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Speaker 3: gonna be able to get to your call today because

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have my guests coming on at eleven, all right,

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Speaker 3: so you can probably call in tomorrow. But I do

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Speaker 3: appreciate you calling in though. But yeah, I had already

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Speaker 3: scheduled a guest to come in from eleven I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: from eleven to twelve noon, and we're gonna talk to that.

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Speaker 3: Guests coming up after the break. Terrence Howard in for

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Speaker 3: Lincoln Where on the Lincoln Ware Show on twelve thirty

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Speaker 3: the Buzz And guess what, I'm gonna give you a

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Speaker 3: chance to win tickets to see the Preservation Hall Jazz

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Speaker 3: Band a Creole Christmas at taff Theater on December eleventh.

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna give you that chance right now before

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Speaker 3: I go to my guests. I'm looking for caller number

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Speaker 3: five seven, four, nine, one two three zero caller number

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Speaker 3: five to win tickets to see the Preservation Hall jazz

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Speaker 3: band A Creole Christmas at taff Theater, December eleventh, caller

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Speaker 3: number five, and you'll be my winner. At caller number five.

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Speaker 3: The phone lines are starting to fill up. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: let a couple more call in. There's another one I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna let. Okay, So now the phone line is are full.

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Speaker 3: Let's see here. Hi, you're calling number one, Try again? Okay,

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Speaker 3: all right, the buzz. You're calling number two? Try again? Okay, alrighty,

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Speaker 3: the buzz you're calling number three? Oh man, try again. Okay. Now,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if this line works, but we'll see

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Speaker 3: the buzz. Your caller number four. You're so close, try again? Okay, alrighty,

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Speaker 3: guess what twenty thirty the buzz?

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Speaker 1: Hello, Yes, Yes, this is Mississippi James, Mississippi James.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, are you calling to win a prize? Are

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Speaker 3: you calling to talk?

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Speaker 1: I'm all about the prize?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't know. Well, congratulations Mississippi James. You've got

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Speaker 3: tickets to see the press Reservation Hall Jazz band A

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Speaker 3: Creole Christmas is happening at the tap Theater December eleventh.

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Speaker 1: Okay, December December.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, December. I mean, can you make it December eleventh?

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Speaker 1: If not, I passed it on to a friend.

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Speaker 3: All right, well listen, uh, congratulations. Chad is gonna get

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Speaker 3: some information from you. Now, have you worn from us

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Speaker 3: within the last thirty days?

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Speaker 1: No, sir?

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Speaker 3: Alright, well, Chad's gonna put you well, I'm gonna put

650
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: you on hold, and then Chad's gonna get to you

651
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 3: to get some information from you. All right, good, all right,

652
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: all right, that's Mississippi James. He's a winner today. Man,

653
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: the guy he's he's got it made. He gets to

654
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 3: call in every day no matter what. He gets to

655
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 3: call in consistently because he donated some blood, him and

656
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: Aussie and he's a winner of tickets. How about that,

657
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: Mississippi James. All right, let's go to my guest and

658
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 3: talk to the pharaoh.

659
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning, Terrence, and how you doing.

660
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: I'm doing great and as always as good to hear

661
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 3: from you. Listen to floor, is yours?

662
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: Man?

663
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: What would you like to talk about today?

664
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: Well? Really, you know, I'm open. You know I could

665
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: talk about a variety of subjects. Melanin, religion, relationships, Europeans, slavery.

666
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm open.

667
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 3: I'll let you I'll let you take the lead.

668
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. So anyone who wants to talk to me about whatever,

669
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: I'm open uh for discussion. But one thing I will say, uh,

670
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: in terms of religion, what I heard last week.

671
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: I heard.

672
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: Sister Dorothy Muhammad call in and spoke to Lincoln, you know,

673
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: speaking about A B and C and the honorable this

674
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: and the honorable that. She mentioned Elijah Muhammad, And I

675
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: wondered about what did she mean when she said the

676
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: honorable Elijah Muhammad. You know, if a person looks up

677
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: the word honorable, the word honorable means one who is

678
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: worthy of praise. And I'm saying to myself when I

679
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: think about the six babies that he fathered by his secretaries,

680
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: I didn't pay any child support. What's honorable about that?

681
00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: They talk about what he did for black people. Some

682
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: Allah told him.

683
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 8: To do A B and C for his people.

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00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: If you know the history of Islam, and if you

685
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: know the history of Elijah Mohammad as well as the

686
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: history of Marcus Mosiah Garby, what did Elijah Mohammad do

687
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: that Marcus Garby didn't do prior to him. Elijah Mohammad's

688
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: parents were Garbyites. They followed Marcus Garvey's teaching. So what

689
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: did this mister Mohammad do. Yes, he's come up with

690
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: a newspaper, you know from what Malcolm had done. Marcus

691
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: Garvey had a newspaper. He came up with putting his

692
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: people in uniforms. Didn't Marcus Garvey put his people in uniforms. Yes,

693
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Speaker 1: he come up with this whole idea about back to

694
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: Africa and dealing with black businesses. Did not Marcus Garvey

695
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: have that same concept prior? Yeah? What I'm saying, what

696
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: did he do that was honorable? Well as the religion itself?

697
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: All of us here in Americas, African people here, Yes,

698
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: all of us have saved last names. Yes, okay, based

699
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: upon our prior generations being slaves to Europeans in his country,

700
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: we took on master's last name. Yes, But prior to

701
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: Europeans enslaving us, the Arabs enslaved us. The Arabs taught

702
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: to Europeans how to enslave us. Yes, So I'm gonna

703
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: change my name from Michael Burke's Burke's being a slave name.

704
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna change my name to Michael Muhammad. So all

705
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: I did is exchanged my last name from one slave

706
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: owner a European to an Arab slave owner Mohammad. Yes,

707
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: so I mean, if you're gonna change your name, identify

708
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: all together with your people, come up with an African name.

709
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: Mohammad is not African. The name Mohammad is not African. Yes,

710
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: that's an Arabic name. See yes. But we as African people,

711
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: we want to be everything except who we are. We

712
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: don't want to be an African. We want to be

713
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: identified as this or that, but not as an African.

714
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: If you know the history of what those Erabs did

715
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: to African people when they invaded around six forty of

716
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: the Christian era, you wouldn't want to have nothing to

717
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: do with their gutter religion. I remember I wrote an

718
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: article about Islam and black people back in ninety five.

719
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: Someone fire bombed the Cincinnati Herald over that article, the

720
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: news and everything. I don't know if you remember that. Wow,

721
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: they showed the article I had written on the news

722
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: and somebody had fire bombed the Cincinnati Herald over that

723
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: article me talking about what Islam did in Africa. So

724
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: how does African people with these names Mohammad Shabbaz, how

725
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: do you identify with an enslaver who killed over twenty

726
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: million of your people in the process of spreading this

727
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: Islam throughout northern Africa. Yeah, if you look at countries

728
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: such as Egypt, Muritania, Mauritania, Morocco, Libya, you know, Algeria,

729
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: all of these African countries in the north of Ghana, Senegal.

730
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: These are African countries that described Islam because of what

731
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: the Arabs did. They killed over twenty million of our people. Wow,

732
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: I mean our children from ten to eighteen years old,

733
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 1: turning them into unichs Wow, you know what a unuch

734
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: he is, right, Yes, sir, you know a castrated young

735
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: boy between ten and eighteen years old, taking him back

736
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: to Arabia to be a Unich. So when the Arabian

737
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: master was leaving, going out of town for a week

738
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: or two. See, you were only there to watch my harem,

739
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: my concubines, women, my wife. See you keep them in line.

740
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: They're not doing something messing around on me. But you

741
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: were castrated Because how they want to think that while

742
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm away, that you're having sex with my other women

743
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 1: in my concubine and my harem, or with my wife

744
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: at pretty see. Yes, now, how do you identify with

745
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: that as an African person. This is not my I

746
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: have no ill will against anybody. Now, I don't hate anybody,

747
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: but I am gonna tell the truth based upon on

748
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: the historical record. Yes, because we as African people, we

749
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: don't read, we don't study and research, we don't research. Yes,

750
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: called me myself, I call myself and a her H

751
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 1: E R A her? What is that that her identifies

752
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: the H? I am a historian professional by degree. I

753
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: am a historian, yes, the E I am an educator.

754
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 1: The R is research researcher.

755
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 3: That's an acronym.

756
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: Okay, right, I am H E R her, I'm a historian,

757
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: I'm an educator, and I am a researcher. Okay, that

758
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: just one uncebject. In terms of black relationships, I can

759
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: talk about that about why we as asking people with

760
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: all whys and girlfriends, why we can't stay together.

761
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 3: Yes.

762
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: See, So anybody who wants to call and talk to

763
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 1: me about the subject about polinking me about our relationships

764
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: to the African men and women, I'm open. I can

765
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: discuss it with you or if you have a question

766
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: about it, I can talk to you about that. So

767
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm open today.

768
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 3: All right, Well, we have at least one caller that

769
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 3: wants to talk to you, but we're up on the break,

770
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 3: so we're gonna get to that after the break. Al

771
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 3: has a comment for you, and I don't know if

772
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 3: he's gonna agree with you or disagree with you. We'll

773
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 3: find out on the other side. So I'm gonna put

774
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 3: you on whole, Pharaoh, and we're gonna get to you

775
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 3: on the other side. All right, Yeah, all right, that's

776
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 3: the Pharaoh. We're gonna continue on the other side. I'm Terrence,

777
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 3: our end for Lincoln where on the Lincoln Ware Show.

778
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 3: We're gonna take a break, but we'll be back on

779
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 3: the other side on twelve thirty the Buzz and I

780
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 3: got a special guest, Pharaoh. He's talking about, uh, the history,

781
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 3: well some of the history of black Muslims, and he's

782
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 3: gonna get into some other things. Also, Alice is holding

783
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 3: on to talk to Pharaoh. But let me get Pharaoh

784
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 3: back on the air here. Pharaoh, Yes, you said you

785
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 3: are open to talking to someone. Al wants to comment

786
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: on something that maybe you said.

787
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: Yes, if I'm open to any topic.

788
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,720
Speaker 3: All right, Al, you're on the line with the Pharaoh.

789
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 11: Respect, love and blessing. Thanks to take my call again, Terrence.

790
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 11: You're going to get respect to you.

791
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 10: For having Cero in as a guest to talk about

792
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 10: this subject, well, his subject matter, which is very important

793
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 10: because it's what, it's everything that we're dealing with. I

794
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 10: really appreciate the brother and all the knowledge that he

795
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 10: comes with.

796
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 11: And they're not opinions. I mean, it's like he says,

797
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 11: if you want to do the research and see that,

798
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 11: it's not an opinion, it's what's exactly happened, and this

799
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 11: is what's going down. But what I really I wanted

800
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 11: to talk to the pharaoh belt was he spoke of melanin,

801
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 11: and melanin is a special I don't want to call

802
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 11: it a thing, but we have a special thing as

803
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 11: far as having melanis and and if you could, you know,

804
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 11: speak on that a little bit.

805
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 10: And how were as black people we're separated from all those.

806
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 11: That meloden deficient and it's almost a superpower that we

807
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:52,439
Speaker 11: don't know about. Are you familiar with doctor Let's see,

808
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 11: he's an elder. He's a professor at Yale University, doctor

809
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 11: kidds and his recent what is his name, doctor kid

810
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 11: from Yale University. We did a research on melani it's

811
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 11: not a published research. It's actually patented and you really

812
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 11: can't get a copy of it. But he did an interview.

813
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 11: I saw it on the internet.

814
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: But you go ahead. I have I have done. I've

815
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: read the books of doctor Richard King. You know, his

816
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: book was entitled melanan a Key to Freedom and if

817
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: he wrote in nineteen ninety five, I've written. I mean,

818
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: I've read the works of doctor Carol Barnes. He wrote

819
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: a book entitled Melanin The Chemical Key to Black Greatness.

820
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 1: You know, so that I'm not familiar with the person.

821
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 11: Yeah, well, if you could look up his research and

822
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 11: his work, I mean, it's it's very extensive. I mean,

823
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 11: it's to blew my mind on how deep you know,

824
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 11: just start melanin is, the melanin compound is, and how

825
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 11: we just take it for granted and just give it

826
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 11: away to just any race that's not even worthy of

827
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 11: of having it, and that you know, the capacity that

828
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 11: we do. But I just want to mention that to you,

829
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 11: and just want to mention another thing to you as

830
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 11: fine as Deuteronomy twenty eight, if you can read that

831
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 11: research as history, as what's happening to us today and

832
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 11: what's been happening to us, how we lost our way

833
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 11: basically as a people, just as.

834
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: A whole people.

835
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 11: I just want to introduce Juteronymy twenty eight, not as description,

836
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 11: not as the Bible, but just as a warning to

837
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 11: a people and not people.

838
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: Is up. I don't have a I don't have a Bible,

839
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 1: but if you can just tell me what does it say?

840
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: Uh say in Deuteronomy?

841
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 3: This says a whole lot. But I appreciate the call, okay, respect. Yeah, yeah,

842
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 3: we can't go through the whole page. It's a lot

843
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 3: of things like sixty eight verses.

844
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: But yes, but appreciate about just speaking about melanin. You know,

845
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: we as African people, we don't know how powerful melanin

846
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: is in our body. Whites because they don't have any

847
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: they have said that black melanon is a waste product

848
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: in African people. There's no purpose, it's a waste product.

849
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: But that melanan in you is what gives you your color.

850
00:58:56,080 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: Also that melananan provides altered dates of consciousness in African people.

851
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: For an example, in our religious ceremonies going to church,

852
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: people who are shouting in church, people who fall out

853
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: in church, who speak in tongues the creation of jazz music,

854
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: which is in African creation. All of these things that

855
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: we do is sparked by Meliman. That Meleiman is excited.

856
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: It is stirred up in your body. When we something

857
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: that Europeans say it's an American cultural thing. No, it's

858
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: not an American cultural thing. It's something that African people

859
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: that we created. High five, given each other, high five,

860
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: giving each other a lot. When you standing there, you

861
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: doing the moon walk in at a football game, a

862
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: guy who spiked the ball in moon walk himming the

863
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: ball down, you know we score a touchdown. Those are

864
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 1: all melanin created concepts that allows us to do these things. See,

865
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: which you think really is something the person does, No,

866
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: it is because of the melanin. It is what gives

867
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: us rhythm. See, we are in rhythm with the universe.

868
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: Because of that melanin. Everything works in a cycle. Even

869
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: a person who is drunk. Take a black man who

870
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: is drunk and he's walking down the street. That black

871
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: man who walks down the street, he can be drunker

872
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: than a scumb but he still is walking in rhythm.

873
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

874
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: Whereas you look at a white man who's drunk, he's

875
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: walking like a robot body. In his movement, he is robody.

876
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: I mean, oh head, just look at it. Look at

877
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: these things. He is robody in his movement. But that

878
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: African person, even though he's drunker than a skunk, he

879
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: is still walking in rhythm. See. If I was there

880
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: in the studio, I will show you how that black

881
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: man walks even being drunk.

882
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 3: Well, we don't have any alcohol to give you to

883
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 3: do that.

884
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: Then I would show you how a white man walk,

885
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: okay drunk, See, I mean that melanin, that's carbon in

886
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: our body. Scientists, geologists, they have drilled down to the

887
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: center of the Earth's core and they have found black carbon.

888
01:01:54,480 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: Everything comes out of blackness. But according to white it

889
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: was relevant. It is a waste sprout us. It serves

890
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: no purpose.

891
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:05,439
Speaker 2: See.

892
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: But yet they're always laying in the sun trying to

893
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: get some color to that tape foot looking skin. Yeah,

894
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get some color. They'll tell each other,

895
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: go on vacation. You went to Florida for two weeks.

896
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: Oh oh, Mary Bill, you have such a beautiful tan.

897
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: But how often do they compliment you? You have a

898
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: natural tan. You don't have to lay in no sun

899
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: they don't tell you, oh, you have such beautiful skin.

900
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 3: Well, you've met me, so I don't tan very well,

901
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 3: I said, you met me, so I don't tan very

902
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 3: well as you can see.

903
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,479
Speaker 1: Well, I know, yeah, I know, But I'm just saying.

904
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: We all have whites in our family, you know. But

905
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: still you are a melimated man, yes, sir, So therefore

906
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: that still a triplets to your When we sit and

907
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: listen to music, do you know that when we listen

908
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: to music as African people? Like I said, this is

909
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: not my opinion, this is research. When you sit and

910
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: listen to music, that music that is coming out of

911
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: that speaker, that sound, that is energy. Do you know

912
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: that melman in your body is absorbing that energy that's

913
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: coming out of that speaker and you use that energy

914
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: at a different times that your body that melonin has

915
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: absorbed that energy is coming out of that speaker listening

916
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: to music. It's doorgs it up? Yes, sir, that melment

917
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: is powerful. Yes, they don't tell you that how powerful

918
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: that melement is in your body, that blackness. We are

919
01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:01,919
Speaker 1: dominant over every color. I didn't say superior, I said

920
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: dominant genetically. Yes, we are dominant. See our traits show

921
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: up everywhere, no matter who we deal with, our traits

922
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: show up. Yes. Is it glorified, that's no, not in

923
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: Western society, you know, yes, fall back see. But if

924
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: you know and understand your history and your culture, your nature, huh,

925
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: your evolutionary process, you will know that you are the

926
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: greatest people on this planet.

927
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 3: All right. And with that, Pharaoh, I'm gonna put you

928
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 3: on hold. We're gonna take a break, all right, all

929
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 3: right now, Now, what did you want to discuss about

930
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 3: m uh dating and relationships?

931
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:48,439
Speaker 8: Why?

932
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: A lot of times we can't stay together.

933
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I'll let you do that on the other side, okay, okay,

934
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 3: all right now, And we do have some callers on hold,

935
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 3: but I don't know if they want to talk to

936
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 3: Pharaoh or if they want to talk to me. You

937
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 3: can you check that out for me, Chad. But in

938
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 3: the meantime, we're gonna take a break. Terrence Howard in

939
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 3: for Lincoln where I got the Pharaoh. He's my special

940
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 3: guest today and we're gonna hear more from him about

941
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,479
Speaker 3: dating and relationships on the other side of the break.

942
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 3: On the Lincoln Ware Show on twelve thirty, The Buzz,

943
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 3: The Lincoln Ware Show, and we're gonna get back to

944
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 3: my special guest, the Pharaoh. I asked if he can

945
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 3: call in and give us a history lesson today because

946
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 3: I knew that. You know, folks, they they don't like

947
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 3: when I fill in with for Lincoln where they don't

948
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 3: call in. So I say, you know, I'll fill the

949
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 3: time in one way or the other. And that's what happened.

950
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 3: But I really appreciate the Pharaoh checking in before we

951
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 3: get to the Pharaoh. Right now, since it's Thursday, it's

952
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 3: free side Thursday, we gotta check in and see what's

953
01:05:58,360 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 3: cooking at the Duke.

954
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 2: Hey, top of the morning, Terrence and happy free size

955
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 2: Thursday bus. Listen Terrence at four us forget. I'm gonna

956
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 2: remind everyone that they can catch all the action of

957
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 2: the Bengals football this Sunday during our all you can

958
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 2: eat sold food buffet was over eighteen items on the

959
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 2: menu and every Sunday starting at one o'clock. Now, for

960
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 2: you folks that think you can't do two things at once,

961
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 2: make sure you get there early and we'll show you

962
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 2: how it's done. Now, Folks, by chance, sometimes a day

963
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 2: you should get hungry and you need a great lunch

964
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 2: or dinner. Whether you want to dine in or carry out,

965
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 2: make sure you consider coming to the douce. On our

966
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 2: menu today is our golden salmon croquastes with macaroni and

967
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 2: cheese and green beans. Orse stop in for our grilled

968
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 2: turkey ribs with mashed potatoes and gravy and fried corn.

969
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 2: Or maybe you'll have a taste for a Saint Louis

970
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 2: Bobby Hugh ribs with big beans potato salad. But my

971
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 2: pick for the day, Terrence, is our tender meat load

972
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 2: with candy, mother cabage and corn bridge. I was blessed,

973
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 2: say everybody, we'll talk with you lady Terrence.

974
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 3: All right, that's the Dukesters. Be sure to check him out.

975
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 3: He's in the summit plaza on Reading Road. And of

976
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 3: course we always appreciate the Dukester and the Dukester's cooking.

977
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 3: Let's get back to the Pharaoh and let me make

978
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 3: sure I do this right here. I'm here, all right.

979
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 3: So now we got a few people that's holding on

980
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 3: and they have questions for you, Pharaoh. Are you I

981
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 3: know I'd asked to go to a different subject, but

982
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 3: would you like to go to that subject? About relationships,

983
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 3: or take questions, or take questions.

984
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: You know, people want to ask me something.

985
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to Jack. Jack, good morning. You

986
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 3: got a question for the pharaoh.

987
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 15: Hey, thank you for allowing me to express my opinion,

988
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 15: and thank you Pharaoh for engaging with us. According to

989
01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 15: your your view, basing your intellectual premise of the black

990
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 15: man on his chromatic material, that somehow it absorbs intellectualism

991
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:22,839
Speaker 15: no matter what you're doing, whether you're walking, dancing, playing sports,

992
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 15: or you're engaging in some intellectual activity. It's not the

993
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 15: brain activity. It's the color of the skin.

994
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:32,799
Speaker 11: Is that what your cremis?

995
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 1: Melment allows you to respond. I can't hear you.

996
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Uh, Jack, listen to the ans off their Okay,

997
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 3: go go ahead, Pharaoh.

998
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 1: I was saying that meloman allows you to react in

999
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 1: some cases without report then to the brain. See what

1000
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying, See some things that you might do, Uh,

1001
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: in a given situation. That melanine in your body is

1002
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: so powerful it allows you to react or respond to

1003
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: whatever without reporting to the brain. It's just you're in

1004
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 1: rhythm with the universe. Me is just that powerful?

1005
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 3: Is that something that's been proven with science? Because I'm

1006
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 3: just thinking that Jack will probably want to ask that question.

1007
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 3: So is that something that's been proven with science or.

1008
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:42,560
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll tell you what uh if you want to

1009
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 1: if if you want to look up stuff like that

1010
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 1: about what I just said about uh about the melanin. Uh,

1011
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: you can you can look at look read about this

1012
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: about how that melanin bonds uh uh uh to your

1013
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:09,759
Speaker 1: body response in your body. You can read a book

1014
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: by doctor Naiam Agbar, the Community of Self.

1015
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:16,879
Speaker 11: You can read.

1016
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 1: A book called An Intimate Stranger by doctor Lillian Rubin.

1017
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 1: You can read a book uh by a doctor Clyde

1018
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: Franklin in the article this is an article in the

1019
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: journal called White Racism as it calls a black male

1020
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:49,759
Speaker 1: female conflict. Okay, so you can read about these what I'm.

1021
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 3: Saying, Yes, sir, all right.

1022
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 1: Uh.

1023
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 3: We got another caller who has a question for you,

1024
01:10:56,040 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 3: and her name is Donna. Donna, you're on the Lincoln

1025
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 3: War Show with Terrence Howard. You got a question for

1026
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 3: the Pharaoh.

1027
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 14: I do Hello, how are you doing?

1028
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 3: I'm good, Pharaoh, Yes, chance.

1029
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 14: First, I want to thank you for bringing on the pharaoh.

1030
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 14: I think it's long overdue, Pharaoh. I would like to

1031
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 14: let you know that I appreciate everything that you have

1032
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 14: been doing over the years for our community as far

1033
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 14: as trying to educate us.

1034
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: But my question is, why do you think.

1035
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 14: That we don't like to look at science a lot

1036
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 14: of times? Why we don't like to look at history,

1037
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 14: and why we don't like to go with facts. Can

1038
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 14: you explain that to me?

1039
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 3: All right, Donna, I'm gonna let him explain it after

1040
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 3: I hang up. Okay, okay, thank you, all right, thank you.

1041
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,799
Speaker 3: I appreciate the call. All right, Pharaoh.

1042
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: Okay. One of the reasons why we don't like looking

1043
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: at history because we were never allowed to read from slavery. See,

1044
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: we were never allowed to read. So you know, as

1045
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: whites has always said, if you want to hide something

1046
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: from a black person, put it in a book. So

1047
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 1: that's what he does because he know we're not going

1048
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: to read it if he keeps it out of Jet magazine,

1049
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: keeps it out of Ebony magazine, keeps it out of

1050
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,839
Speaker 1: Essence magazine. But we don't never know about it because

1051
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 1: we don't read. See one of our problems. We don't read,

1052
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: we don't study things. We roll with the punches. What

1053
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: a person says, we go with it anything that I

1054
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: talk to you about. I have researched and studied this

1055
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:02,799
Speaker 1: while I was in college. Just to call in somebody

1056
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 1: to call in and criticize me based on emotions, you know,

1057
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 1: or their beliefs, and haven't studied what I've studied.

1058
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 2: You know.

1059
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 1: See, it's ridiculous. But I understand why we do these

1060
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 1: things because we don't want to look at things because

1061
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: we were not allowed to read, and when we started

1062
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 1: to read, we didn't read the things that were relevant

1063
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 1: to us as a people or to our culture. Like now,

1064
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: if we if we buy the Cincinnati inquir what do

1065
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 1: we look at?

1066
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 3: I mean, asking Terrence, what do we look at the

1067
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:42,719
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Inquiry.

1068
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just say, if we buy the Cincinnati Inquiry,

1069
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 1: as African people, what do we look at in the paper?

1070
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 3: I mean I would probably look at local news. I mean,

1071
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 3: that's what It's the first thing I would think about it.

1072
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 3: You know, what do we look at I don't know, the.

1073
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,759
Speaker 1: Movies, the entertainment section. You might look at the comics,

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Speaker 1: you know, or something like that. We're not interested in

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Speaker 1: looking at world events, you know, what's going on around

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Speaker 1: the world. You know, what's happening around the world. See,

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Speaker 1: we're not interested in that type of thing. See this

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Speaker 1: is why whites put all this information in their scientific journals,

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Speaker 1: you know, US News, World Report, Time Magazine. You know,

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Speaker 1: they put these things in these these types of magazines

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Speaker 1: because they know we're not gonna read it. And then

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Speaker 1: somebody who does read it try to report to you

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Speaker 1: about what they found in research. The first thing we said,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that, well that this is his opinion?

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Speaker 1: Out what did you read? What did you study? See

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Speaker 1: where's your research? Where's your documentation? See? All right, you

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Speaker 1: have is a belief.

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Speaker 3: All right, Pharaoh, before we go to break, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: take raised questions. He's been holding off for a while,

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Speaker 3: so I'm gonna take him befo a break. Uh ray,

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Speaker 3: good morning. You got a question for the pharaoh?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, actually I got basically a comment, Pharaoh. A lot

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Speaker 8: of people when you come on the last time you

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Speaker 8: were on h on the show, and every you know,

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Speaker 8: you took questions. My thing was it was a waste

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Speaker 8: of time because you weren't challenged, you know, and uh,

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Speaker 8: you get criticism. You get criticized a lot when you

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01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 8: when you express your views in it, but you've always said,

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Speaker 8: you know it's based on history, uh, in research. And

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Speaker 8: so let me ask you this, who do you consider

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Speaker 8: your equal? That actually someone can just come on and

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Speaker 8: just challenge you. You guys can go back and forth

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Speaker 8: instead of just your number of basic callers that try

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Speaker 8: to pick apart everything you say. That's one thing and

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Speaker 8: two is Lincoln asked you earlier. I think it was

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Speaker 8: it this week or last week that have you ever

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Speaker 8: just seen a white woman that you just wanted to date?

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Speaker 8: And you said no? So my question would be, what

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Speaker 8: problem would you have with in a ratio dating relationships

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Speaker 8: white man black women or black men and white women.

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Speaker 8: But as far as far as you being challenged, who

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Speaker 8: would you consider your equal? That can come on and

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Speaker 8: just you guys can just go back and forth and

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Speaker 8: maybe we'll learn something.

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Speaker 11: Okay, Okay, all right, Ray, thanks for your car.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll respond to what he's saying. Or do you

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Speaker 1: want to be hold on? Did you come back?

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Speaker 3: Can you hold on till we come back?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So all right, well wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: that's the Pharaoh. He's going to respond to Ray's question

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Speaker 3: after the break. Who is Pharaoh's equal in Pharaoh's mind,

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Speaker 3: and would he date any big booty white chicks. Now

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Speaker 3: he didn't say that, but uh, we're talking to the Pharaoh.

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Speaker 3: On the other side of the break. I'm Terrence Howard

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Speaker 3: in for Lincoln Ware on The Lincoln Ware Show on

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Speaker 3: twelve thirty. The Buzz Lincoln returns tomorrow. I promise you

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Speaker 3: you'll never have to hear my voice ever again. We're

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01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 3: working on getting a new host when Lincoln leaves, so

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01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 3: that way you all can call in and be happy

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01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 3: with your hosts instead of having to deal with me. Well, listen,

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01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 3: I'm filling in. I'm feeling in. I'm happy to fill in.

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Speaker 3: But like I said, we're doing some new things. Sooner

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Speaker 3: or later, it's going to be worked out and you

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Speaker 3: won't have to worry about me filling in anymore. What

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Speaker 3: Chess says, I'm doing a good job. But listen, the

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Speaker 3: numbers on Facebook Live says no. Lincoln has eight hundred

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Speaker 3: people a thousand people watching him on Facebook Live and

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01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 3: I have three. So they'll let you know right there

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Speaker 3: how much love I'm getting quote unquote love. But it's

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Speaker 3: all good. Listen, I got the fair I'm glad he

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01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 3: called in and he's gonna address raised question of who

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01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 3: is your equal? And is it what you date white

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Speaker 3: women or something like that. But Pharaoh came back and

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Speaker 3: go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. First of all, I'll say, I consider anybody my

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01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 1: equal who is well read, who is well read, where

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Speaker 1: you can discuss any aspect of history with me if

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01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: you are well read. But if you are talking to me,

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Speaker 1: and I am a licensed historian, and you all of

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01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: your references is to the Bible and to the Koran.

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01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 1: These are not historical documents. Because anybody who's been in

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01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 1: college and you have studied a history, you turn to

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Speaker 1: the back of the book, it has a biblic biography

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01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: or references to where the sources came from for you

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01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 1: to write this book. If you turn to the back

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01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 1: of the Bible. In the Quran, where are you, where

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01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 1: is your bibliography? Where are your references?

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Speaker 11: What you used?

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Speaker 3: They say it was inspired by God, That's what they say.

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Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 1: See, So therefore, if there is no reference, it's considered

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Speaker 1: a novel. See it's nothing but a novel. Because if

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01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: you're saying something and I'm questioning what you're saying, let

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Speaker 1: me go to the source and read upon it myself,

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Speaker 1: so thout my own conclusion. But if there is no sources,

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Speaker 1: you're just writing that's a novel. See.

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Speaker 3: So I take it that you're not going to read

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Speaker 3: Deuteronomy twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: Really for what purpose? I mean, where did you Where

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Speaker 1: did you get that from? Whatever I read about in Deuteronomy?

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Speaker 1: What sources did you use right to write that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: See, and if they don't have any references or any bibliography,

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Speaker 1: and it's just your opinion. See, if you're dealing with history,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can write a book about a man

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Speaker 1: and woman meeting each other as kids, and they grew

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Speaker 1: up and somehow another they separated, and forty years later

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Speaker 1: they met again and their love was still there, and

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Speaker 1: they rolled off in the sunset. I can write a

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Speaker 1: book about that. You don't expect to find any references

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Speaker 1: to it at the end of the book because it's

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Speaker 1: a story, a novel. So if you're dealing with history,

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Speaker 1: it has to have references.

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Speaker 3: So Pharaoh, we're running out of time. I'm only going

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Speaker 3: to be on til noon.

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Speaker 11: Do you have any answers for about this white woman's things?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: You know I've seen a lot of white women who

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Speaker 1: look decent. But I had no desire to deal with

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Speaker 1: white women. I am about mild women. We have the

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Speaker 1: beautifulest women in the world, our people, ye have the

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Speaker 1: beautifulest women in the world, second to none. So why

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Speaker 1: would I even looked at a white woman Because whatever

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Speaker 1: I would think about she had, my woman got the

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Speaker 1: same thing, even better looking. So I don't think about that.

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Speaker 1: We have been huh. We have been manipulated and used

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Speaker 1: and messed around with, and you know, and mixed and

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Speaker 1: everything with white sold slavery, white mastery, dealing with our women.

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Speaker 1: We have been messed around enough. I don't need to

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Speaker 1: add to that by messing with something somebody who doesn't

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Speaker 1: look like me. You know, my interest in my love

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Speaker 1: is for my people.

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Speaker 3: Right woman, Now, Pharaoh, we gotta wrap it up in

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Speaker 3: a couple of minutes. Who do you consider your equal?

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Speaker 1: You said, what? Now?

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Speaker 3: Remember Ray asked you two questions. One was about the

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Speaker 3: white woman and the other one was about who would

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Speaker 3: you consider your equal?

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Speaker 1: I said, anybody would be my equal.

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Speaker 3: Anybody will read okay, So you don't.

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Speaker 1: Have anything coming to me from a religious standpoint, And

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to you about history and science, and you're

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Speaker 1: telling me about your Bible.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So there's no.

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Speaker 1: Coming together on that.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So I guess he was wondering if there was

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Speaker 3: any particular person that.

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Speaker 1: You had in mind, if it would be I consider

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Speaker 1: them my equal if you can come to me with

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Speaker 1: scientific evidence and proof of what you're saying, yes, and

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Speaker 1: we can talk, okay, But so we can't talk and

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01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 1: I'm talking science and you're talking beliefs.

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Speaker 3: See, well, have you ever debated someone on history or

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01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 3: black history or biblical issues? And you just said, man,

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Speaker 3: that guy, that cat's pretty smart. He almost got me.

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Speaker 1: Really, because that's where we are. You're stuck in religion,

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Speaker 1: so we don't read anything else to debate. Anybody like

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Speaker 1: me would love to debate someone who was intellectually and

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Speaker 1: came with historical facts. All right, everybody, we become with

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Speaker 1: religious beliefs, you know. See, and everything that I speak

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Speaker 1: about the problem is with me and most people, especially asking.

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Speaker 3: People, yes you got thirty seconds, Pharaoh.

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Speaker 1: The biggest problem is that they come to me with

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Speaker 1: their beliefs, their religious beliefs, and what I say contradicts

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Speaker 1: their religious beliefs, and they're trying to take what I say,

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Speaker 1: and try to fit it into what they already believe, okay,

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01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 1: and it's not gonna fit right, that's a problem.

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Speaker 3: Well, Pharaoh, I really appreciate the time, man, I really do.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: I learned a lot today. And uh, listen, Uh maybe

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Speaker 3: next time we'll get together man, and and then chop

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01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 3: it up and talk about some things.

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Speaker 1: All right, right, And you need if there is going

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Speaker 1: to be a replacement Lincoln where over time I hope

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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, thank you.

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01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:05,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate a good host, and you need recognition.

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Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. And Pharaoh, I gotta run. I

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01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 3: hate to cut it short. Listen. I appreciate you listening.

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Speaker 3: We got the noon hour coming up. There's gonna be

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Speaker 3: a rebroadcast. I'll see you on the other side of

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01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 3: the glass Lincoln where we return tomorrow. And I appreciate

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Speaker 3: you listening. I'm tearing Howard in for Lincoln where on

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Speaker 3: twelve thirty, the Buzz