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Speaker 1: coming up a little bit later in the program, Doug Carter,

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Speaker 1: He's going to talk about all things Delphi. Of course,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get his impression on it.

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Speaker 3: And no question off limits.

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Speaker 1: We'll ask him about everything related to that case. That

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Speaker 1: nine point thirty, we're going to have a Mitch Gore,

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Speaker 1: us talking about this redistricting battle, what he knows, what

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Speaker 3: For the public.

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Speaker 4: But first, yes, draw the drive, the drive into work,

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Speaker 4: not like my drive drive anywhere in Indianapolis, not like

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Speaker 4: drive to be here each day, and we're not talking

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Speaker 4: about that motivation. No, no, No, we're talking about the

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Speaker 3: Going to get to this.

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Speaker 1: By the way, did you see that the Republicans got

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Speaker 1: there are six of the twenty five. There are six

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Speaker 1: Republicans on the Indianapolis City County Council, so you're out

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Speaker 1: numbered six to nineteen. And their response was let's get

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Speaker 1: rid of the leader of the Republicans. And the reason

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Speaker 1: is believed to be he was too mean to hog Seat.

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Speaker 2: Yes, were you yelling at hog Set on your way

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Speaker 3: Well, it's all I mean. The city.

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Speaker 1: I hate to say this. I hate to say this

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Speaker 3: I love.

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Speaker 1: I grew up here, grew up a central the name

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Speaker 3: It was a great dream. It was easy.

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Speaker 1: There was ease of access, There was on street parking,

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Speaker 1: So I when I first started driving to WIBC nine

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Speaker 1: And everywhere you go, everywhere you go in this city,

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Speaker 2: Detour signs everywhere. It's really interesting, you say, typically takes

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Speaker 1: The budget is one point seven billion. It wouldn't matter

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Speaker 1: Joe Hawkson, So get ready for term number four?

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Speaker 2: What was my reaction when I heard that ug? And

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Speaker 2: then what could I say it? Yes?

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Speaker 3: I allowed to say it? Yes it was it radio appropriate?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so? Was it the question I asked you?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's so perfect. Yes, Casey goes, Can you

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Speaker 2: Oh there was enough.

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Speaker 1: And then Casey asked for Marked Deal's pone number because

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Speaker 2: Do you remember when Jesse Brown introduced that proposal to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and think about.

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Speaker 1: Like, it's just it saddens me and to have to

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Speaker 3: Like it's a real life game of Frogger at this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where you're car is the is the central character

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Speaker 1: This is not normal. This is not how competent people

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Speaker 2: Time, right, that's it.

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Speaker 3: And for some of it, it's so that they can

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Speaker 1: It's not stuff where like, we're gonna make these streets

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Speaker 2: Was it one hundred million dollars they were gonna spend

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. The homelessness issue is not a

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Speaker 3: This is our life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well as long as the people that are in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So we're off to a good start today.

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Speaker 2: Very good. It's Kennelly Casey on ninety three WYBC.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm reading news.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's that You've been summons to serve your country.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe it's happening again. Rob I came yesterday,

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Speaker 2: yes September eleventh.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So it's Kennelly Casey Show. By the way, I'm

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Speaker 1: Rob That's Casey keV is our fabulous pretty So you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bright yellow card, okay, And it says

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Speaker 3: Okay. So I have several questions about this me.

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Speaker 2: Too, Like why do I keep voting because nothing happens

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Speaker 3: You're on a list.

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Speaker 1: Well okay, So first of all, you have been called

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Speaker 2: Well, I was never one of the people that actually

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Speaker 2: Lot of people, I'll go into different court run yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then you're told to go home.

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Speaker 1: Now, there's no way they will actually pick you, given

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Speaker 2: Especially if I'm wearing a big WIBC T shirt carrying

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Speaker 2: a Rob Kendall book. I would never do that.

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Speaker 2: My sister in law right away when I told her, Oh,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'll get picked until you show

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Speaker 1: Okay, wait, wait, wait, so you get you got money

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they send you a check of some sort. Did

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Speaker 1: That they're telling you have to show up. I'm not

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Speaker 3: You're on your personal right.

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Speaker 2: It's not like I have to use a PTO day.

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Speaker 1: So basically you get to see this connecttionally, we're got

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do believe last time I went and they said, no,

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Speaker 2: So this is the positive spin, right.

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Speaker 1: And then think about if you get some sort of

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Speaker 1: Now the question I have several questions about this that

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Speaker 3: But let's just.

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Speaker 1: There's no there's no proof, there's no signature thing whatever.

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Speaker 3: How would they get I mean if there were a

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Speaker 1: A pandemic of people wanting to avoid jury service, like, say,

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Speaker 1: How that you even got it. Something could be delivered,

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Speaker 1: The mail could have delivered somebody, cause.

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Speaker 2: First class mail pre sorted. Yeah, that's not there's no

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Speaker 3: Some guy could have somebody could have launched your you know,

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope not.

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Speaker 1: Well, I would hope not too. But I'm just saying

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Speaker 2: And you got to call a number the night before, oh,

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Speaker 3: But what then you might not get the thirty dollars.

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Speaker 2: Right, I might not even have to show up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wild. All right, we got it. Well, good luck. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of people that are now coming out

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 3: And and what's next with that?

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Speaker 2: It is Kennel Le Caasey on ninety three wibczs running.

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Speaker 3: So the redistricting battle has hit in Vienna. We know

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Speaker 1: We know thus for kind of what Republican leadership has

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Speaker 1: It's Kenell Casey Show and Rob Casey's here join us

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Speaker 1: now in studio. Mitch Gore, Democrat Representative. Mitch Hello, Hey,

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Speaker 1: all right, so have you guys been given any sort

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Speaker 1: pretty obvious. It's partisan politics. That's it, period, full stop,

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Speaker 1: But have you guys been given any like in a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean normally they're pretty good about spinning some

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Speaker 5: and everybody knows that No, really it's you know, it's

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Speaker 5: for political expediency. This time, you know, we've heard nothing

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Speaker 5: because there's there's no way to spin this. It would

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Speaker 5: you know, when when Democrats vote forty percent or when

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Speaker 5: vote for a Democrat for Congress. Right with our nine seats,

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Speaker 5: that would be like three Democratic seats and one haws up,

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Speaker 3: And this is what And I'm just curious that you know,

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Speaker 3: You guys drew twenty one?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty one, So for four years ago, time flies, right,

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Speaker 1: that's okay. They got a little a little creative with

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Speaker 1: but that happens. It's not like, yes, wouldn't probably do

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Speaker 1: these maps are perfectly fair, to boy, they're so screwed up.

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Speaker 1: Now we got to redraw the whole thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think Simone Biles would have a

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Speaker 5: hard time with the level of gymnastics required to kind

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Speaker 5: mention that, you know, we've been calling for an independent

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Speaker 1: And it's similar to mean to Cutch UF, but's still

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Speaker 1: by the way, Democrat Represative Mitch Gore is our guests,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about redistricting. Todd Rokeita almost twenty years ago,

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Speaker 1: So it's not some extreme thing that you guys would

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and the Age's position on it back then, he

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Speaker 5: we really need to get there that much more closely.

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Speaker 5: Adheres to kind of what Madison was talking about in

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Speaker 5: some of those constitutional constants or principles, and have an

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Speaker 5: independent Redistricting Commission. That's what we need. Of course, now

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Speaker 5: we're going complete other direction and injecting, you know, hyperpartisanship

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because obviously our audience leans a little

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Speaker 3: That I do.

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Speaker 1: But my position on this is, Look, we have a

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Speaker 1: it favors Democrats, that's okay. I don't like California doing it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you think about, like George Washington giving up

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Speaker 1: So, and I want to get to come back to

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Speaker 1: on these airwaves repeatedly during the property tax debacle, debate,

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Speaker 1: It's totally useless. It doesn't matter. I'll just have to

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Speaker 5: I mean, the idea of a special session, it almost

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Speaker 5: You know, for two years? It's it's insane.

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Speaker 1: Okay again, Mitch Score is our guest Democrat represented. A

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Speaker 1: few minutes left with him. We're talking about redistricting. What

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Speaker 1: can you guys do? Is the Democrats? I mean, obviously

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Speaker 1: the Democrats I think learned a lesson, hard lesson years

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Speaker 1: ago about leaving. It wouldn't matter now anyway, because the

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Speaker 1: super majorities. What can you guys do? Do you feel

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Speaker 1: do you feel there's a coalitionon of the willing amongst

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Speaker 1: the Republicans to say, hey, this isn't right or is

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Speaker 1: this a fate of complete.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I hear from a lot of you know,

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Speaker 5: my district's very you know, we're really in the middle.

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Speaker 5: I got Beech Grove, I got the East side of Indie.

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Speaker 5: It's really interesting district. I hear from a lot of folks,

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Speaker 5: and I have a lot of Republican friends and family members,

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Speaker 5: and to them it feels gross too. And so I'm

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Speaker 5: hoping that you know, Indiana Democrats are just one in

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Speaker 5: a cacophony of voices that kind of reach out and say,

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Speaker 5: this is this is really terrible. This is kind of

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Speaker 5: against all those those norms that we've had for hundreds

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Speaker 5: of years and maybe altogether because practically Indiana Democrats can't

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Speaker 5: do much other than raise the issue as much as possible.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And then you know, come next year, maybe clabb orsome

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Speaker 5: Republicans with it in the elections.

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Speaker 3: Are they going to manipulate just the congressional districts or

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Speaker 3: they talking about House and Senate districts too.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the Indiana Constitution is very clear and there's

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Speaker 5: established precedent on this matter, and an AG opinion from

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Speaker 5: a few decades ago that says you cannot do a

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Speaker 5: mid decade, mid decade redistrict on the Indiana House and

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Speaker 5: Senate maps it the dicential census.

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Speaker 1: Do you think because there is some spirited debate, I've

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Speaker 1: seen it online and you know, the internet is never

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Speaker 1: wrong of course, about whether or not they can even

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Speaker 1: do And Nikki Kelly from the Indiana Capitol Chronicle was

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Speaker 1: on with us last week talking about this whether they

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Speaker 1: can even do this redistricting.

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Speaker 3: Are you guys, the Democrats.

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Speaker 1: Are you guys going to raise those legal issues before

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Speaker 1: this is allowed to go forward?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, of course we will. And that's the

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Speaker 5: part that kind of irks me, almost as much as

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Speaker 5: the issue itself, is the hypocrisy baked in. Right, anytime

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Speaker 5: I have a bill, because I'm the only cop in

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Speaker 5: the General Assembly, anytime I the only one, the only

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Speaker 5: currently serving. Yeah, we have some retired members. But anytime

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Speaker 5: I like when I had to address the issue of

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Speaker 5: machine gun switches because Indianapolis cops were getting outgunned on

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Speaker 5: the streets, right the hoops I had to jump through

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Speaker 5: because it strays kind of close to the Second Amendment.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: The phrase I heard from Republicans was well, no, we

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Speaker 5: know it doesn't it doesn't actually impede upon like the

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Speaker 5: language of the Second Amendment, but it's a slippery slope. Well,

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Speaker 5: now we get to this conversation where the constitution is clear,

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Speaker 5: both the US and the Indiana Constitution. We do these

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Speaker 5: after the decential census, right, But now Republicans are like, well, technically, uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, we could be a little creative. And so

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Speaker 5: it's the hypocrisy that irks me. Are we are we

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Speaker 5: sticking to the black and white, are we not? Uh?

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Speaker 5: And they have no good answer because it's all about

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Speaker 5: political expediency for them.

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Speaker 2: Do you think there's any way to stop it from happening? Well?

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Speaker 5: Uh, you know, just like Madison warned against the tyranny

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Speaker 5: of the majority, I know some other founders talked about

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Speaker 5: watering the tree of liberty. Outside of that, I have no,

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Speaker 5: I have no. I don't know practically, Uh, in Indiana

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Speaker 5: what we can do that we have to return to

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Speaker 5: a system where there are political consequences doing things like this.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you mentioned political consequences. What other consequences do you

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Speaker 2: see coming out of this?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean hopefully they'd lose in court. Uh first,

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Speaker 5: I mean yeah, I can't think of any other consequences

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Speaker 5: other than holding them accountable.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem, right, And I think that can happen

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Speaker 1: to them, is they just lose in court because they've

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Speaker 1: jerrymandered the House and Senate districts to where they can't

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Speaker 1: they can't really lose theory either.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, I mean, ideally they would not

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Speaker 5: be targeting Indiana House and Senate.

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Speaker 3: But I think they've already they currently have.

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Speaker 5: Oh well, yeah, I mean you have that, but hey,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know they're Democrats can break the supermajority

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Speaker 5: in the House. Uh, that's step one. Uh, you know

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Speaker 5: they do enough. Next year's midterm year. It was already

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Speaker 5: looking bad, which is why they have to do this

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Speaker 5: whole you know, mid district, mid decade redistricting thing, and

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Speaker 5: you know, maybe they get clobbered.

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Speaker 3: Hey, real quick before I let you go.

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Speaker 1: One of the selling points that Republicans are trying to

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Speaker 1: make on this is, well, we don't want to go through

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Speaker 1: another impeachment with Trump, and if we lose the House,

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Speaker 1: well it'll be another impeachment. Should the Democrats take that

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Speaker 1: off the table by just publicly declaring, Look, this guy's

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Speaker 1: term limited, he can't run again, we're not gonna impeach him,

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Speaker 1: and just take that away from people.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would. I would if I were in leadership

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Speaker 5: in the you know, in the federal Congress, I'd i'd

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Speaker 5: say something like unless it's something really you know, right

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Speaker 5: obvious in your face, and yeah, we're not gonna go

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Speaker 5: for that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, good luck, because you know, I think

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Speaker 1: we've kind of taken the right The radio guy wished

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Speaker 1: me good luck, right, my life is forever better. But

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Speaker 1: I think, like I said, I think reasonable people look

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Speaker 1: at this and see it kind of for what it is.

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Speaker 1: And some people are just gonna be with, okay with

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Speaker 1: it because it helps their team. But I think you know,

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Speaker 1: if you look at what this is about, because some

548
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Speaker 1: day it'll happen to your side. Right if you do

549
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Speaker 1: it to their side, some day it'll happen to your side.

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Speaker 1: Your side learned that on the Supreme Court stuff right

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Speaker 1: with the judges, and so so good luck, we're all

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Speaker 1: we're all.

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Speaker 3: Counting on you. Well.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate its seeing Kendall and Casey on ninety three WIBC. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so coming up at.

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Speaker 3: By the way, it's Kenell case Show and Rob Casey's here.

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Speaker 1: There are now lawmakers are beginning on the Republican side

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Speaker 1: to come out against this. We just had Mitch Gore,

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Speaker 1: Democrat state rep on about the redistricting plan. We've seen him. Believe,

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Speaker 1: Craig Haggard come out. Craig will be with us tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: By the way, he's as a big announcement tonight involving

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Speaker 1: his future, and so we'll have him on tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: then he's come out against it, I believe sinner. Jim

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Speaker 1: Thomas came out against it. Danny Lopez, this smoker this morning,

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Speaker 1: came out against it. So like, ultimately, whether they're gonna

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Speaker 1: go forward with this, I don't know. You're starting to

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Speaker 1: see some people take some positions on this. Okay, all

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Speaker 1: of that being said, coming up eleven o'clock, Doug Carter

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Speaker 1: is going to be with us. He is, of course,

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Speaker 1: we now call him a friend of the show.

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Speaker 2: I know and strange surn of events.

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Speaker 1: And he he was a former state police superintendent. Maybe

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Speaker 1: nobody out there knows the Delphi investigation better than him.

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Speaker 1: He is, while not interviewed directly in the Delphi documentary

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Speaker 1: on Hulu, he's all over it. And so he will

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Speaker 1: be with us coming up at eleven o'clock, talking about

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Speaker 1: the documentary, about the investigation itself. That's going to be

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Speaker 1: just a fascinating interview. I don't think he's done very

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Speaker 1: many long form interviews about Delphi, certainly post conviction, so

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Speaker 1: that'll be very interesting to hear what he has to say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so did you see the aol as ending their

582
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Speaker 2: dial up service? It's still endy it.

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Speaker 3: It still exists.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, service is going to

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Speaker 2: end September thirty.

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Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're telling me in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Are you talking about this noise? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's still a thing in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for some people, they they're going to discontinue their

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Speaker 2: dial up Internet. I mean, I can't even I didn't

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Speaker 2: have a landline phone anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't even keV. Do you even

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Speaker 3: know what AOL is? Do you even? I mean your Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we had dial up until I was like ten, Oh

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Speaker 3: you did. Yeah, so even twenty years ago you had

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Speaker 3: dial up Internet.

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Speaker 2: Were you allowed to be on the Internet? Yeah? I used.

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Speaker 5: I tried to use YouTube, but when my grandma would call,

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Speaker 5: it always kicked me off the Internet.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm sure obviously most people hearing our voice

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Speaker 1: would know what AOL was.

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Speaker 3: But it was this the kind.

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Speaker 1: Of first mainstream version of the Internet, in which you

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Speaker 1: had to have a phone line and you would plug

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Speaker 1: your computer into this phone line and this program would

607
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Speaker 1: then it sounded like you were dialing a phone number,

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Speaker 1: and it would connect you to the Internet. Casey, don't

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Speaker 1: ask me how I know this. You know how long

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Speaker 1: it took to download a photo.

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Speaker 2: A while. Yeah, originally called America Online.

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Speaker 1: If you had a two hour win between when school

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Speaker 1: was over when your parents got home from work, you

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Speaker 1: can get through about three photos.

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Speaker 2: I remember when it first came out and my boss

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Speaker 2: at a radio station had it, but only in his office,

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Speaker 2: so everybody would go back there and what is this

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Speaker 2: internet thing?

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Speaker 1: And then there was some upgrade of AOL that was

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Speaker 1: a big deal. Went from certain K to another K

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Speaker 1: and that was.

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Speaker 2: A huge and the free trial scene so that they

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Speaker 2: would send out.

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Speaker 1: That's right, because it was a subscription based thing. It

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Speaker 1: was through your phone company. I think, right was that

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Speaker 1: if I remember that correctly, because the big thing in

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Speaker 1: your house was you had to then get a second

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Speaker 1: phone line, otherwise you couldn't be on the phone.

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Speaker 2: Or you'd be kicked off. When Kevin's grandma called.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, and the computer at the at

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Speaker 1: the same time, and I think Kevin is correct. The phone,

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Speaker 1: although I don't know. I thought if you called and

633
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Speaker 1: you were on the internet, it gave a busy signal.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was the deal. You would get a

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Speaker 1: busy signal because you were literally on.

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Speaker 2: The phone, the phone. Yeah. So in twenty one, Verizon

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Speaker 2: sold AOL and Yallaho to Apollo Global Management for five

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Speaker 2: billion dollars. What year twenty one, twenty one?

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Speaker 3: Yeaho's still around.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Yahoo is still around, no kidding. AOL is now

641
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Speaker 2: part of Yahoo.

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00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: But what does AOL do? How many what do people.

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Speaker 2: Still have the AOL email?

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Speaker 3: Well? Okay, but how are they making money on that?

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Speaker 2: I don't believe they are.

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00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: Well, but they.

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Speaker 1: Paid five billion for it. But there was some way

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Speaker 1: to I mean, this is dumber to people that bought

649
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Speaker 1: my Space. I mean, there must be some way if

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Speaker 1: you paid five billion for something. Because the mega merger is.

651
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Speaker 2: AOL a news site.

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Speaker 1: Now, one of the mega mergers on of my youth

653
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Speaker 1: was the AOL Time Warner merger. That was the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the end of basically both of those companies. Is

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Speaker 1: when AOL, Time Warner, the cable company, and AOL merged together.

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Speaker 1: And that I mean people correctly, I'm wrong, You're a

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Speaker 1: little more season than I am. People lost massive amounts

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Speaker 1: of money. Ted Turner like lost a fortune in the

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Speaker 1: AOL Time Warner merger because Time Warner he had, you know,

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Speaker 1: basic control over Time Warner and then during that merger

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Speaker 1: he was put in a corner and told goodbye Grandpa

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Speaker 1: and then lost ended up losing a fortune on that boy.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe it's still around.

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Speaker 2: Well, there is an AOL dot com and they say

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Speaker 2: they're news, politics, sports mail in the latest headlines, So

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Speaker 2: that's how they're making their money. You can still get

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Speaker 2: on AOL mail.

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Speaker 3: Who's going there for their news? Though?

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Speaker 1: Who's like, you know what, there's some breaking must have information.

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Speaker 3: I'll go to AOL.

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Speaker 2: AOL.

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Speaker 3: Who's working for AOL? Do they have employees?

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Speaker 1: Do they have people that like they sign checks over

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Speaker 1: to do work on their behalf?

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know it was still around.

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Speaker 2: According to the picture, there's a guy working right there,

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Speaker 2: according to the picture on the internet. Yeah, what are

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Speaker 2: we doing? What's coming up next? We got to talk

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Speaker 2: about Donald Trump and the things he said about Washington

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Speaker 2: DCS today, what's going on there? And lots of good

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Speaker 2: stuff on the way with Kendall and Casey on ninety

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Speaker 2: three WYBC