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Speaker 1: You know, once they see a drop of blood, Right,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna just keep, you know, digging on this thing,

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Speaker 1: you might as well just unless you've committed some heinous

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Speaker 1: front of it and define the narrative of yourself. And

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Speaker 1: mister president, this is going to come out. Nobody has

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Speaker 1: ever alleged Trump did anything illegal. But when you get

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Speaker 2: There may be nothing, no fire.

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Speaker 1: And all Trump would have had to say from the

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Speaker 1: Obviously you would have a much better crafted statement than this.

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Speaker 1: But I knew this guy. I had some business dealings

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Speaker 1: with them, just like thousands of other people did. I

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Speaker 1: You're certainly gonna find that I had correspondence with them.

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Speaker 1: I never engaged in any illegal activity. I, you know, vehemently,

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Speaker 1: Here's what you'll probably find, DA DA da da da. Again,

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Speaker 1: you would say it a much more concise, you know,

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Speaker 1: Well, and so this is so the and that he

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Speaker 1: the Democrats who released these emails like they're not running

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Speaker 1: And in the Trump orbit, he dealt with shady rot

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Speaker 2: More than he has alluded to divulged right.

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Speaker 1: And then to make it even worse, you've got this

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Speaker 2: They want the full release of the files.

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Speaker 1: Right, They were moving forward with what is called a

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Speaker 1: Why you're fighting this so hard. This guy was clearly

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Speaker 3: So the House Speaker Mike Johnson said that he would

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Speaker 1: Now. The problem with this for Trump is it doesn't

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Speaker 3: So the White House Press Secretary Caroline Levett, she accused

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Speaker 4: I have your statement.

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Speaker 5: About the new Epstein emails that have been released by

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Speaker 5: House Democrats. Separate from why you believe the emails were

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Speaker 5: made public, can you address their substance. Did the President

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 4: These emails prove absolutely nothing other than the fact that

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Speaker 4: President Trump did nothing wrong. And what President Trump has

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Speaker 4: so was Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein was a member at

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophile and he was a creep.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the follow up to this is, it's not

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Speaker 1: whether Trump was engaged in illegal activity, it's you're not

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Speaker 1: the drip, drip, drip, all of this. And if Trump

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Speaker 1: That's going to be the next question is if Trump

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Speaker 3: Guy was so bad, why didn't you go beyond just

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Speaker 1: Like they have handled this so wrong, and they keep

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Speaker 1: engaged in pedophilia, involved with any of these girls. He

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Speaker 1: out of sight, out of mind. I'm glad I got

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Speaker 2: And now we have another round in the political email war.

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Speaker 1: Yeah,