1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, this may be an inappropriate question. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 2: Okay, the way to start showing is Friday. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Let's go because I don't got to see you people 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: for another week. 5 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. You're actually taking some time off. 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 4: If you're gonna totally disrupt the flow of traffic, shouldn't 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 4: you have to do the bare minium and direct the traffic? 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: Are you talking about your drive in this morning? 9 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, so seventy is backed up. Fine, somebody was driving irresponsibly. 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 4: I don't know what the deal was, but the seventies 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 4: backed up. I'm listening to the Matt Bear traffic report. 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,319 Speaker 4: I'm getting all the details and say, okay, I'm going 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 4: to I'm going to exit and I'm going to get 14 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 4: off on exit seventy seven, better known as Holt Road. 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 4: Thank you, yes, which will since I know Washington Street 16 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 4: is now open though you told me, you said it's 17 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 4: not in great shape, but it's now open. Boy, you 18 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 4: got the full experience. So I said, all right, I'm 19 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 4: going to exit seventy seven. I'm going to get on Holt, 20 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 4: I'm going to get on Washington. I'm going to come 21 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 4: to work, and I'm going to see how bad this 22 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 4: actually is. Yes. 23 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: Now, keep in mind they've been on Washington is three years. 24 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's two and a half going on three years. 25 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 4: Okay, so three three years on whatever they've been doing, 26 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. And I thought it 27 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 4: can't be as bad as Casey's been describing. Maybe she's 28 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 4: just immune now it's been so porous for song, she's 29 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,919 Speaker 4: immune to how good it's getting. 30 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's worse than I imagine. 31 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, But that's not the worst part. 32 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 4: The condition of the road itself, which I don't know 33 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 4: what they've been doing for three years. 34 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: I don't know either. 35 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: Why did they have all those lanes closed and then 36 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 3: when they reopen them they're worse off. 37 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 2: Than when they had them closed. 38 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, everything's horrible, But this is the is the that 39 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: is the smaller of the problems we have here. 40 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: Okay. The bigger of the problems. 41 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 4: Is they have all of these cones and then they 42 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 4: force you basically in like some sort of figure eight 43 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 4: to maneuver from one lane to the next. Yes, and 44 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: we are talking morning rush hour. We're not saying that 45 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 4: I came in at four in the morning. We're talking 46 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 4: morning rush hour and coming in and there is no 47 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 4: one to directing traffic like stop or go, other than 48 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: some guy standing on the side of the road waving 49 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: to people like he's just pointing like aggressively like got 50 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: no stop, No guy with a stop, no guy with 51 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: a slow yeah, and he is because the person in 52 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: front of me, I'm trying to figre out what's going 53 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 4: on because I'm behind this car and I'm like, why 54 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: is this person going so slow? 55 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: They didn't know. 56 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 4: Where to go? No, And then I realized it's not 57 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 4: even their fault. And they're looking at this guy like go, 58 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 4: don't go because at some point you're in the lane 59 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 4: of traffic coming in the other direction. 60 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: And what it's like, they're just like, wish you the best. 61 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly Now. Did you see the three guys 62 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: standing around just talking? 63 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: Oh? 64 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 4: Three at one point, account of five? Really there there 65 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 4: were two on one side of the road, two on 66 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 4: the other side of the road, and the one guy 67 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 4: waving with his one finger and being a real smart 68 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 4: ass with his body language at this driver ahead of 69 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 4: me like I can't believe you don't know to go? 70 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 4: And the person you can see them in front basically 71 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 4: like putting their hands up going. But the cars they're coming, 72 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 4: they're coming right at right exactly, and no one's stopping them. 73 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 3: Now that you've had the full experience that I've endured 74 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: every single morning for two and a half years, now, 75 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 3: are you amazed how I can arrive in such a 76 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: good mood. 77 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: But I'm not done. 78 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 4: Oh okay, because there is no one directing the traffic. 79 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 4: I have gone past the guy who appears to be 80 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 4: put off by the fact that he has to wave 81 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 4: his finger telling you to go. I mean again, apparently 82 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 4: having someone with one sign here and one side that. 83 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: Was too much for the city to do. They couldn't 84 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: do that. 85 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 4: So then I get past that, thinking, okay, I'm home free. 86 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: The cones have ceased to exist now. Then some guy 87 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 4: is in the shopping center and despite the fact that 88 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 4: it is still dark right which conceivably you could see 89 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 4: all the lights of the cars coming forward towards you, 90 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 4: decides he is going to try to like some sort 91 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 4: of what's the Burt Reynolds movie the Smoky in the Bandit. 92 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: I think he's gonna try to enact reenact Smoky in 93 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 4: the Bandit and cross what would that be? They quot 94 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 4: it four lanes of traffic and drive across and I 95 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 4: had to literally slam on my brakes swerve. The car 96 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 4: made some sort of sound like it was in a 97 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: Fast and Furious movie. Weave around this guy. He's looking 98 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: at me like d still stopped in the in the 99 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 4: in the middle of the road with traffic coming. And 100 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 4: I guess this is just standard operating procedure. 101 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: It is it is welcome to Washington Street. I'm amazed 102 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 3: that your car could swerve. 103 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: But didn't do it by much. Yeah, what what the 104 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: hell is going on? 105 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. 106 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 3: It's crazy and if you don't pay attention, you'll end 107 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: up in a big hole because there are parts of 108 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: the road it's gone. 109 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: There's just no there's no road anymore. 110 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 4: Okay, very good, Okay, you got that out of your systems. 111 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: Fine, and then. 112 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 4: And and no, I'm gonna say some things I'm gonna regret. 113 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 4: So let's go on with the program. Okay, So coming up, hey, 114 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 4: actually programming. Note this is very park coming out with 115 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 4: ten oh five. Spencer Deary is going to join us. 116 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 4: He is one of these state senators who has been swatted. 117 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 4: He's a state senator from Lafayette and he's going to 118 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: talk about like this real world impact these psychotic nut 119 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 4: jobs that are doing this stuff, because what they're up 120 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 4: to five now, is that right? 121 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: Five senators? 122 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 123 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, all of them being swatted and you have to imagine, 124 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: now this is an attempt to change their mind on redistricting, 125 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 3: or this is an organized effort because they are systematically, 126 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: one after the other being swatted. 127 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: Well, you don't know that. And no, but Daniel Elliott 128 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: was on. 129 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 4: With Tony this morning and he was talking about these 130 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 4: things are coming electric this what's interesting that the reports 131 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 4: are coming electronically, being submitted electronically, like via email, and 132 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 4: after the first one with Greg Good, thankfully the word 133 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 4: kind of got out. 134 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: And the way these things are being. 135 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 4: Sent, it's not the same situation it was with the 136 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 4: Greg Good stuff where they're coming to the house and 137 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 4: like trying to get in the house and thinking that 138 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 4: law enforces kind of wise to what's going on now. 139 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 4: So if there's some distress email that looks out of 140 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 4: place in regards to a lawmaker's house, they're now approaching 141 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 4: it differently than they were before. 142 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: But that's neither here nor there. 143 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 4: It is still extremely dangerous and someone could end up 144 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 4: getting seriously hurt. 145 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: So swatting involves making a false emergency report to police 146 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: and that will trigger a large or swat like level response, 147 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: and it comes often with fabricated claims that there's a 148 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: home invasion or hostage situation or something of that nature, 149 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: and it can be very dangerous for the individuals that 150 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: are in the home just going about their life, not 151 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: even realizing that this is happening till the to them. 152 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 4: And it's part of a broader conversation of look, you 153 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 4: don't know who this was. This could be it could 154 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 4: be a leftist actor, you don't you don't know. I mean, 155 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: like I think people are leaning towards it as something 156 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 4: to do, because that's the. 157 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: Timing is very odd. 158 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 4: But you know, it's irresponsible to make any assumptions until 159 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 4: law enforcement does their job and figures out who it is. 160 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 4: But whether it's someone who is inspired by these tweets 161 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 4: or urging from President Trump, or someone who's trying to 162 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: capitalize and make them look bad, no matter who it is, 163 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 4: it is a total just a black eye on where 164 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 4: we're at with politics in this country. Look, Rod Bray 165 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: and the Republicans in the Senate screwed all of us 166 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 4: on property taxes six months ago, all that year worth 167 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: of work, and the thousands of people who called into 168 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 4: emails and the rally and all of that. At no 169 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 4: point was I like, you know, how we should get 170 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 4: even with them. Let's have people you know, threaten their safety. 171 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 4: It's utterly ridiculous. That's not how it works in a 172 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 4: decent society. And whether it is someone inspired by the 173 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: tweets of the president or someone trying to capitalize on that, 174 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 4: we have just gone so far beyond what's acceptable as 175 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 4: it relates to politics now, and you're putting people's lives 176 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 4: in danger. We obviously have seen it last year with 177 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 4: the multiple attempts on the President's life, the assassination of 178 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk. We are getting into some very scary territory 179 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 4: in this country as it relates to how people respond 180 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 4: and deal with politics, political figures, politicians. 181 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: So Senator Todd Young put out a message he said 182 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: that he was briefed on additional swating attempts targeting who's 183 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: your state lawmakers. He went on to say it's unacceptable 184 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 3: and those responsible must be held accountable. I'm actually agreeing 185 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: with Todd Young. He's right, they do need to be 186 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: held accountable. Hopefully they will be. He went on to 187 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 3: say that both the state and federal levels we need 188 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: to lower the temperature and debate issues with civility. 189 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: And you've moved. 190 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 4: On our side of the aisle because whether whether the 191 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 4: swat let's take a break, because I want to talk 192 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 4: about our side of the isle or what kind of 193 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 4: we perceive as our side of the aisle, because there's 194 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 4: some things going on right now that are very interesting 195 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: to mean, whether these people that are doing these sweating 196 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 4: attempts are inspired by or egged on by or whatever 197 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: word you want to use, the tweets the president putting out, 198 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 4: Like I find what's going on with the undying loyalty 199 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 4: with Trump, Like, I just think it's very interesting how 200 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 4: we're moving in politics in this country right now. I 201 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 4: think it would be good for us to have a 202 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 4: conversation about that when we come back. 203 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC. 204 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: Twelve miles on a back and off city, stopping about 205 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: a half group. So let's talk. 206 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 4: About what people on our side the aisle are upset about. 207 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 4: And how we got here. It's Kettle and case Show 208 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 4: and Rob. That's Casey missed the opening segment. We were 209 00:09:53,840 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 4: talking about, obviously the state senators who have been swat. 210 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 4: I think the count is at five now we're gonna 211 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 4: have one of them, Spencer Deary on at ten oh 212 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 4: five top of next hour, talk about how you know 213 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 4: the impact is set on his life. 214 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: A lot of these guys I don't. 215 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 4: Like, I'm not fans of I'm We come in here 216 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 4: every day and say exactly what we think of them, 217 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: but we would never condone nor support. And we always 218 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 4: talk about when we urge people to protest what these 219 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 4: people are doing, to do it in a polite, respectful, 220 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: law abiding manner. We always try to go out of 221 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 4: our way to say that because I've never been one 222 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 4: who believes if you see somebody out in about in public, 223 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 4: you know, now some guy's there with this family or 224 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 4: doing some event or whatever, that's different. But if you 225 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 4: see somebody at the Walmart and they're your senator, they're 226 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 4: always your senator. You have every right, in a polite, 227 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 4: respectful manner, come up and say exactly what you think 228 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: of how they're doing. You pay their their salary, right, 229 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 4: I've always thought that, but yet we have now crossed 230 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: so far beyond that, and this swatting stuff is just 231 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 4: so completely ridiculous. But it's part of a broader conversation. 232 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 4: And again, you don't know who's behind this. It could 233 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 4: easily be some bad actor on the other side trying 234 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 4: to exploit this and make Trump look but you don't know. 235 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 4: That's for law enforcement to figure out. Hopefully they'lligure it 236 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 4: out very soon and bring the people to justice. But 237 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 4: what I do know is there's a whole lot of 238 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 4: people who seem above all else to have this like 239 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 4: undying loyalty to Donald Trump and any person who stands 240 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 4: in his way in any capacity, no matter how principal, 241 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 4: to stand, no matter how rooted in liberty or freedom 242 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 4: or fiscal responsibility or all the things that we should 243 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 4: want as Republicans. And if Trump is not doing those things, 244 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 4: then you become instantly public enemy number one. 245 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: If you don't go along, right, And that's a very 246 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: scary thing. 247 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: And my question is, like, when Trump got. 248 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 4: Elected, there were a lot of people who voted for 249 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 4: Trump because they felt were losing the country very quickly. 250 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 4: And this guy is pledging promising campaigning on re establishing 251 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 4: some sort of what America used to be better times 252 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 4: for America. How did America prosper during these better times? 253 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 4: He was talking about instilling those things. And so in 254 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, I see people buying in and going, Okay, 255 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 4: I'm with that guy because he's promising to reassert, reestablish 256 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 4: better times when America was a dominant force in the world, 257 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 4: people had respect for the country. We did things differently, 258 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 4: but here we are. He has been president now five 259 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 4: of the last nine years. He's had complete control of 260 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 4: the federal government for three of those nine years. He's 261 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 4: had control the federal government in the sense of the 262 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 4: House and the or the Senate at least two of 263 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 4: the equations presidency and one of the parts of branches 264 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: of Congress for five of those nine years. And at 265 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 4: some point point, don't you have to, as a rational 266 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 4: thinking person go go. Maybe he's just part of the problem, 267 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 4: maybe he hasn't actually delivered, But that doesn't seem to 268 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 4: exist with anyone and anybody who dares object or stand up, 269 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: whether it's Thomas Massey or Ran Paul or now these senators, 270 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 4: look at how they're getting treated. 271 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're treated poorly, or they're labeled liberal. Yes, like 272 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 3: if you don't go with Trump one, all of a sudden, 273 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: you're a leftist. Trump did promise sovereignty, he promised a 274 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: better economy, he promised patriotism. 275 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: But when he's out on stage talking about H one 276 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: B visas and you know, when you go to. 277 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: The grocery store or your utility bill comes, what the 278 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 3: economy really is? It contradicts what he is saying. And 279 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: if you point that out, you're the bad guy. 280 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're we on the on the right or the 281 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 4: liberty individuals. It seems like we are losing the leverage 282 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 4: or the high ground that we've always had in terms 283 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 4: of we never had the undying loyalty. We might vote 284 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 4: for you, but then we're going to hold you accountable. 285 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 4: Unlike the Democrats who always just seem to circle the 286 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: wagons no matter how insane the policy. 287 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: Look how long they. 288 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 4: Stood behind the goofy Chuck Schumer shut down, which was 289 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 4: insane and it was horrible for the country, and they 290 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 4: always get behind the thing. We on the right or 291 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 4: the liberty and freedom minded people have always said, we 292 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 4: might vote for you, but we are going to be 293 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 4: independent in our thought. We're going to hold you accountable 294 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 4: if you don't do what you've promised to do, or 295 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 4: you're doing things that aren't good for the country, or 296 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 4: you're doing things that aren't in line with the constitutional 297 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 4: minded attitude that we have and the idea of lower 298 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 4: taxes and limited government and making the government more efficient 299 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 4: and effective. We're going to speak up and we're going 300 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 4: to say this is wrong, and we will push back 301 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 4: on that. And now those people are deemed the bad 302 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 4: guys and instantly, in a heartbeat, no matter how insane 303 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 4: it is, become. 304 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: Public enemy number one. 305 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 4: There is no conversation anymore, like you can't have a 306 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 4: rational conversation. 307 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: Well, you have to wonder, though, is this coming? 308 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: Is this top down look at what Donald Trump has 309 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: been putting out on truth social Talking about the Democrat 310 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: veterans in Congress who were telling service members who refuse 311 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: unlawful orders, Donald Trump says, hang them. 312 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: George Washington would. 313 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I also like saying. 314 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: It's seditious behavior. 315 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: Actually, if you think an order is unlawful, you're supposed 316 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: to go to the attorney general. 317 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 4: And I think about like the things people get fired 318 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 4: up about without just like if you could actually have 319 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 4: a rational conversation. 320 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: With some of these people. 321 00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 4: So we put forth probably the most from the conservative side, 322 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 4: the most robust organized public policy push that we have 323 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 4: seen in this state really since the last time it 324 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: was done, basically fifteen years ago, which this past year 325 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 4: was the organized push on property taxes. Tens of thousands 326 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:21,359 Speaker 4: of people across the state engaged in that over months. 327 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 4: None of these people who are irate and livid over 328 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 4: the redistricting in many like these influencers Instagram, but whatever, like, 329 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 4: where were they? 330 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: Then? 331 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 4: We could have actually affected public policy if we'd have 332 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 4: got the thing that we were clamoring for enacted. And 333 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: where was the president on that? Why didn't he care 334 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 4: enough about us to engage in that? 335 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: Now? 336 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 4: Again, don't want people getting hurt, don't want people getting threatened, don't. 337 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: Want any of that. 338 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 4: But man, if you are actually about the policy, if 339 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 4: you're actually about the betterment of people's lives, if you're 340 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 4: actually about holding government accountable or or lower taxes or 341 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 4: more limited, streamlined, effective government, there was your hill to 342 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 4: die on. We did all the work for you. All 343 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 4: you had to do is join the party, and none 344 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 4: of these people wanted to do that then, but now 345 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: with this redistricting, it's this bizarro. Somehow Indiana's actions on 346 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 4: redistricting the whole country hangs in the balance based on whatever. 347 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 2: The two. 348 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 4: That is insane to say out loud, and to the 349 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 4: credit of Rod Bray, which I am loath to do 350 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 4: as of right now, he's actually looking pretty smart based 351 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 4: on what happened in Texas, where he was trying to say, 352 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 4: I'm not sure that we can draw these maps. He 353 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 4: was saying many things, but one of the things they 354 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 4: appeared to be saying was we cannot guarantee these maps. 355 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 4: We'll stand the test in the courts based on what 356 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 4: we would be doing to a majority black district in 357 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 4: Marion County, and thus far, now the Supreme Court may 358 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 4: rule different, they may override, but thus far he has 359 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 4: been proven correct on this, and these senators are being 360 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 4: treated so horribly because of that. 361 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to make a correction. You know something 362 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: I just said. 363 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: Military orders, they're presumed lawful unless they violate the Constitution, 364 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 3: federal law, or exceed the issuer's authority. And if you 365 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 3: believe that's in contrast, you should go to the Inspector General. 366 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 4: Okay, So to be fair, we've talked about some people 367 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 4: on our side, or you presume maybe on our side, 368 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 4: that are not behaving in the best of ways. Now, 369 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 4: can we talk about that psycho when we come back 370 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 4: who carved herself up to try to make Trump people 371 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 4: look bad? 372 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: If we have to, the whole world has lost their. 373 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 4: Minds, Casey, and so we will mental illness. We're going 374 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 4: to be fair and balanced when we come back. Speaking 375 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: of fair and balance, nobody is more fair or more 376 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 4: balance than Jared Lewis in the news. 377 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: It's Kendall and Casey on ninety three WYBC. Psycle that's strong, keV. 378 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 4: I mean this, this is our award winner for craziest 379 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 4: human Alive. Yeah, it's Kennell and Casey, John Rob that's Casey. 380 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 4: This is so you know, obviously we spent our first 381 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 4: couple of segments talking about these you know, senators here 382 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,959 Speaker 4: in Indiana are getting swatted and whether the person is 383 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 4: you know, someone responding to Trump's criticism of these individuals, 384 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 4: or someone trying to exploit that we have reached like 385 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 4: there's so much just psychosis in the political environment now, 386 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 4: and this broad right here said hold my beer. 387 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to one up everyone. 388 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is awful. 389 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 4: Okay, So this chick the New York Post, many other 390 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 4: media outlets, national media, let's have this story. She was 391 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 4: Natalie Green was her name. And not that I notice 392 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 4: people's appearances anymore, but a strong broad ripple seven seven 393 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 4: and a half, if we're scoring at home, very well assembled. 394 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 4: And for some reason, this chick, she was an aid 395 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 4: to a GOP congressman out of New. 396 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: Jersey, and. 397 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: She decided that she was going to in a Jesse 398 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 4: Smolette type deal, hires some dude to carve her up, 399 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 4: like literally, yeah, like I mean, the photos are just disgusting. 400 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 3: And dozens of cuts on her face, her neck, her chest, 401 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 3: her back, her shoulders. 402 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: And then on her stomach. 403 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 2: I guess I can say this word. 404 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 4: Okay, it says Trump whore. And then she basically was 405 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: she had an accomplice. So she hires a guy to 406 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 4: do this. 407 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: Like a fetish body modification artist. 408 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 4: Okay, that was a new one form. I did not 409 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 4: know there was a genre for that, but there isn't. 410 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 4: Apparently that's a genre. Okay, I'm out. I'm out of 411 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 4: that game now, so I don't I'm not as astute 412 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 4: on how the the people do the stuff as I 413 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 4: used to be. It's not funny, Kevin, It's very serious. 414 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 4: Kevin's over there laughing. So she hires this eye to 415 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 4: do this and then has an accomplice who ties her up, 416 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 4: leaves her in the woods somewhere for the authorities to 417 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 4: find her. After there's some sort of search to try 418 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 4: to track her down, and she's trying to get sympathy 419 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 4: on herself. I guess to say, oh, she's a victim 420 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 4: of some heinous assault on the on the left because 421 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 4: she worked for a guy who was a you know, 422 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 4: obviously a kind of a Trump ally in Congress, and 423 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 4: then everybody would feel bad for her. 424 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 3: She's no longer working for the Representative Van Drew, So 425 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 3: this is clearly attention seeking behavior and a cry for 426 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 3: help because she's no longer there, and then does this 427 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: to try to get attention eyes back on her. 428 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but it goes far beyond attention seeking behavior, right. 429 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: It goes to mental illness. 430 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean, the as clearly completely bonkers and 431 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 4: should be removed from decent society immediately because she mutilated herself. 432 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 4: She needed attention so bad, or sympathy so bad that 433 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 4: I mean, if you want attention, get an OnlyFans account 434 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 4: this is way. 435 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 2: Or a dog perhaps, well that. 436 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 4: Too, that probably would also work. But the sort of 437 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 4: attention she's craving, I don't think you give him a dog. 438 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 4: But what is interesting about this? And it's sort of 439 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 4: like the Smolette thing. These people are idiots, so they 440 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 4: don't It's very It became very easy for the authorities, 441 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 4: like like they found didn't they find the zip They 442 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 4: found zip ties in the automobile of the person who 443 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 4: was in on it with her, and then like a 444 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 4: Google of zip ties near me. 445 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: According to the New York Zip. 446 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 2: Guys were purchased at a dollar general, not far And so. 447 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 4: You just look at it, go ma'am, And again is 448 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 4: it them going to the county home and trying to 449 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 4: engage in an in depth conversation with someone? But you say, 450 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 4: how did you think you weren't going to get caught? 451 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 4: You don't you think the authorities would look into that, 452 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 4: like could this be the in the wake of the 453 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 4: Jesse Smolette type things, that this could be a self sabotage? 454 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, she said she was attacked and ambushed but them. 455 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 3: When they started asking her and the accomplice, they gave 456 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 3: some conflicting stories, inaccurate descriptions of these non existent attackers, 457 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 3: and found that at the end she ended up paying 458 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 3: somebody to do that to her. And she has now 459 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 3: been arrested for staging a violent, politically motivated attack on herself. 460 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: And I don't know, maybe it's the culture. 461 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 4: Maybe, you know, maybe we have reached a point because 462 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 4: of how dominant obviously the online community is, whatever your 463 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 4: favorite application is in terms of likes and clicks and 464 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 4: views and whatever. But the question to her would be, Okay, 465 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 4: let's say you never got caught and everyone felt bad 466 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 4: for you. This is how you want to go through 467 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: the rest of your life, chopped up with stuff all 468 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 4: over you? Like that was that At least with Jesse Smolette, 469 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 4: there was no permanent damage. You know, he, as far 470 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 4: as I've seen, looks the way he always looked. And 471 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 4: I mean, what he did was horrible. But what is 472 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 4: going on in our society that people and they all 473 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 4: seem to be somewhat connected to the political sphere, right, 474 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 4: and maybe we are all just connected into the political sphere. Now, 475 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 4: maybe they aren't separate anymore. Maybe everybody in some way 476 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 4: is connected in unlike unlike we've ever seen. 477 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: But this is just beyond ridiculous. 478 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's most likely going to have scars and I 479 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 3: do mean permanent scars on her skin from this. 480 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: I yeah, anyway, that wasn't thought through very well. 481 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's been charged with conspiracy to convey false statements 482 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 3: and hoaxes and making false statements to federal law enforcement. 483 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 4: And again, even if you don't care about yourself, even 484 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,239 Speaker 4: if you're that whatever twisted thing was going on with 485 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 4: her that she felt compelled to do this, what about 486 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 4: other people? Like I think the same thing about the 487 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 4: guys who are getting swatted right now. Obviously it's horrible 488 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 4: for them. And again, Spencer Deery, state senator, scheduled to 489 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,959 Speaker 4: join us. He's been at ten o five, he's been 490 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 4: one of the people that's been a victim of this. 491 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 4: But you you look at this and you go, Okay, 492 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 4: all the resources you're wasting that could be used to 493 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 4: help people who are really in need, who really do 494 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 4: have problems, who really are experiencing some traumatic event, and 495 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 4: those things are being taken away given to you for nothing. 496 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: You did this to yourself. 497 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 3: Well she did, but I think those resources do need 498 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: to be used on her. 499 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 4: Well she needs to be locked in a padded room. 500 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 4: But think about how long it took these people to 501 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 4: figure this out and all the manpower and be wanted 502 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 4: to go to the scene, and like, it's just just 503 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 4: what is going on in our country? 504 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 2: It's very much. I will not be ignored Dan behavior. 505 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: Boy, it sure is. 506 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 2: Someone pay attention to me. Yeah, you're right, and she's 507 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: getting the attention absolutely. 508 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: Now what are we doing? What's going on? 509 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 4: Next? We? 510 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: How do we how do we bounce? How do we bounce? 511 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 2: Bounce out of this? 512 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: Bounce back? 513 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 2: Kevin Spacey is homeless? 514 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 4: Oh, another uplifting story. All right, we'll do that next. Sure, 515 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 4: fine's Kenny Fulla Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. Kevin Spacey 516 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 4: now says he's homeless. And I think this interview did 517 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 4: with the Telegraph is fascinating. It's Kenell Casey's young Rob 518 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 4: Casey's here. So Kevin Spacey, he was a blockbuster, you know, 519 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 4: Hollywood star all sorts of famous movies, then struck gold 520 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 4: with House of Cards. 521 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: He was he was arguably look for whether that show. 522 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 4: I think started in twenty twelve, and what was it 523 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 4: was its twenty seventeen that he got the boot over 524 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 4: the allegations of sexual impropriety. There was like a four 525 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 4: or five year window there where he may have been 526 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 4: the biggest star in Hollywood, popular as that show was 527 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 4: on Netflix. 528 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: And then the Me Too movement happens. 529 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 4: His career gets totally derailed by all these allegations of 530 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 4: sexual impropriety. 531 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 1: But what's fasting about Spacey? 532 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,239 Speaker 4: Unlike a Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, I don't think it has ever 533 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 4: been convicted of anything. 534 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: He was acquitted, and these. 535 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 4: Like the civil litigations I think got thrown out. Now 536 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 4: he was accused of all this horrible behavior, but you 537 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 4: look at this and go okay, But he never was convicted, 538 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 4: and like I said, I think everything else got thrown out. 539 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: I could be wrong. Maybe there was some civil judgment 540 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: against him, but he is. 541 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 4: Saying because of the legal bills that he had to incur, 542 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 4: he has now been forced to sell his home. He's 543 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 4: basically staying living in and out of hotels and airbnbs, 544 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 4: and because of the stain of the allegations against him. 545 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 2: Nobody wants to touch him. 546 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: He can't get work. 547 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, all of his belongings are in storage. 548 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 3: He's living in hotels and airbnbs, and he's traveling wherever 549 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 3: he can find work, which isn't a lot. He went 550 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 3: on to say that he would love to return to work, 551 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 3: and a call from somebody like Martin Scorsese or Quentin 552 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 3: Tarantino could change everything for him. 553 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: And do you remember this. 554 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 4: I don't know if it was you or when it was. 555 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 4: Mock was still here after he got off on one 556 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 4: of these because there were multiple charges he was facing, 557 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 4: or maybe it was in lead up to one of 558 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 4: the court cases, he did a video as the guy 559 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 4: from House of Cards, like in the in the full 560 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 4: character mode, and basically he was like, bringing on, I'm 561 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 4: not going anywhere, and he was very you know, all 562 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 4: the bravado of that of that character. And yet even 563 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 4: though he was acquitted, the allegations themselves have been enough 564 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 4: to sink one of the biggest names in Hollywood. 565 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 3: Right, So he pled not guilty to sexual assault and 566 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 3: other charges, and you know, he said, it's been a 567 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 3: really humbling experience from the outcome. 568 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: He wants to work. 569 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 3: There's been some people that have come out like Sharon 570 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 3: Stone and Liam Neeson saying that the Indus he needs 571 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 3: him and misses him, and they've called him a genius 572 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 3: and he's a good man. 573 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 1: He was a great actor, doubt he was. 574 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: But if you're sinking millions of dollars into something, would 575 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: you risk that by putting his name on the market. 576 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 4: Well, that's the broader conversation is should allegations be enough 577 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 4: to sink some individual when that person has has been 578 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 4: acquitted of wrongdoing on multiple occasions? Now, you know, being 579 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 4: putting yourself in a bad situation repeatedly, or not learning 580 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 4: a lesson from things, or being a weirdo doesn't make 581 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 4: you a criminal. It doesn't, It doesn't. 582 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: Know, but it does turn people off from wanting to 583 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: work with you. 584 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, but if we're going to go after every weirdo 585 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 4: in Hollywood, nobody almost nobody be working. But there's a 586 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 4: difference between I'm a criminal engaged in criminal, unconsensual, illegal 587 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 4: behavior versus I'm a guy who's really exposed himself, maybe 588 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 4: literally right and put myself in a bad situation. But 589 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 4: he just like part of me, wants to feel bad 590 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 4: for him because he can't recover from this, even though 591 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 4: he was acquitted. 592 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 593 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: He says that his expenses over the past seven years 594 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 3: have been astronomical and he's got little income coming in, 595 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 3: and that starting over has been humbling, and he's shifted 596 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 3: his relationship with fame. He now just enjoys interacting openly 597 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 3: with people and walking with his head high. I mean, 598 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 3: that's it's got to be a lot when you're that 599 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 3: famous and that rich and you are at. 600 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: The top of your game. To go to the bottom climbing. 601 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 1: Back up, Well, that's how do you do it? 602 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: That could be a movie itself. 603 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 4: Could I think part of the thing is the allegations. 604 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 4: Did they not involve someone underage? I believe so, wasn't 605 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 4: one of these sexual improprieties. 606 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: And so there's a lot of people who say, well, 607 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 3: where there's smoke, there's fire, even if he wasn't found guilty. 608 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 4: But even look at let's okay, so let's take another 609 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 4: example of someone who doesn't involve underage and has basically 610 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 4: essentially been found and never even made it to a trial. 611 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 4: But Trevor Bauer the picture for the Loss, He was 612 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 4: the picture for the Reds, and then the Los Angeles 613 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 4: Dodgers was arguably the best picture in baseball. This woman 614 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 4: makes this horrible complaint about him and their sexual encounters, 615 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 4: and Bower comes out and goes, wait a second, this 616 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 4: woman asks for all of this the way we engaged 617 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 4: in sex. I got the text messages. She tried to 618 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 4: get a restraining order against him. He wins at every 619 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 4: level in the court case. He's completely vindicated, and yet 620 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 4: no one in baseball will touch him, and he's. 621 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,479 Speaker 1: Going, wait a second. 622 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 4: People have lives where they engage age in rough consensual 623 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 4: sex if both people agree to it and one person 624 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 4: asked for it, which I have these messages showing and 625 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 4: and then later showing that she was trying to exploit 626 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 4: him for money or whatever. And yet nobody in baseball 627 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 4: will touch this guy. And he would still probably be 628 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 4: one of the best players in Major League Baseball. But 629 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 4: yet he has to pitch in Japan now or last 630 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 4: I heard, he was pitching in Japan. 631 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: For what he did. 632 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 4: Both people agreed that they wanted this, he's got the 633 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 4: messages proving it, the legal system agreed with him on this, 634 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 4: and he can't get a job in baseball. 635 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's people who say, you know what, that's 636 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 3: too much baggage, that's too much heat. 637 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: We can get somebody who's very similar. 638 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: No, you can't get somebody that pins like Trevor. 639 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 3: Pauer, somebody without all that negativity surrounding them. 640 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 4: Maybe true, but but for years athletes have been all 641 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 4: the trouble. 642 00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: Not all athletes, but there's been. 643 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 4: A scumback and drug users, and you know, all that 644 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 4: stuff got forgiven. 645 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: And so I just I think it's a very it's 646 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: a very. 647 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 4: Odd thing that people who, in the case of Kevin Spacey, 648 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 4: was acquitted. Jerry found him not not guilty multiple times. 649 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 4: The civil proceedings fell apart. A great example locally would 650 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 4: be someone like Curtis Hill. Curtis Hill was never charged 651 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 4: with anything criminally. He was the ethics czar the found 652 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 4: him in any ethics violations. The civil lawsuits mostly fell apart. 653 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 4: He has got to slap on the wrist from the 654 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 4: from the Disciplinary Commission, but its political career is basically done. 655 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I still feel that people think, you know what, 656 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 3: life is difficult enough, running businesses is hard enough. 657 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 2: We don't need that. We can go elsewhere. 658 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Spencer Deary, he is one of the 659 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 4: state senators who has been swatted, has been a victim 660 00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 4: of swatting. 661 00:33:59,200 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: He's scheduled to join. 662 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 4: Next we'll talk about the experience, about how he's dealt 663 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 4: with it, and about how many we could turn the 664 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 4: temperature down a little bit on this redistricting debate. 665 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 2: It's ninety three eight wib C.