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Speaker 1: Live from the Heartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. Let's talk about an ugly exchange and

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Speaker 1: this took place in Arizona. Tony Kats, Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: Good to be here, Good to be with you. We

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Speaker 1: will get more into the conversation of terrorism, which is

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Speaker 1: what we saw at Old Dominion University, It's what we

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Speaker 1: saw at Temple Israel in West Bloomfield, Michigan. Is what

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Speaker 1: we saw in Austin, Texas. The connectivity of all these

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Speaker 1: things are Islamists and to say otherwise is laughable and

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Speaker 1: people will be offended, and how dare you? And islamaphobia.

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Speaker 1: The facts are the facts, and Islamaphobia isn't real. Can

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Speaker 1: I help you, oh am? I going to get emails,

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Speaker 1: send your emails, go ahead. These are the facts. These

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Speaker 1: are the connection points between all three things, three of them.

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Speaker 1: Whether you're going after people in a crowded bar, whether

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Speaker 1: you're going after members of ROTC really trying to attack

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Speaker 1: the military, whether you're going after Jews. They have their

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Speaker 1: individual stories and then they have a connected story, and

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Speaker 1: that connected story is terrorism and the desire to destroy

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Speaker 1: Western civilization. And we have to ask ourselves whether we're

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Speaker 1: going to just sit back and take it or whether

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Speaker 1: we're gonna fight like mothers. And I think we need

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Speaker 1: to fight. I think we need to fight hard. And

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Speaker 1: while we are engaged in this conversation the thing we

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Speaker 1: should be engaged in. There are still progressives out there

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Speaker 1: who think that men can be women. I thought we

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Speaker 1: put this to bed. You've got the American Society of

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Speaker 1: Plastic Surgeons saying, you know what, we don't really recommend

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Speaker 1: gender firming care, which is a mutilation of children. By

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Speaker 1: the way, it's just a term they use. It's a

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Speaker 1: mutilation of children. Anytime you hear gender affirming care, think

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Speaker 1: to yourself, oh, they want to mutilate children. Oh, we

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Speaker 1: don't recommend this since l after age nineteen. And then

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Speaker 1: you see another medical organization say, oh, yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 1: that's right, not until the age of nineteen, because they're

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Speaker 1: getting sued and they're losing. They're getting sued for the

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Speaker 1: abuse of children, because they abuse children. End of list.

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Speaker 1: So here in Arizona is this state senator by the

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Speaker 1: name of Catherine Miranda. And Catherine Miranda is there on

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Speaker 1: a dais and in front of her is an athlete,

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Speaker 1: a woman by the name of Kaylee Ray, former NCAA

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Speaker 1: volleyball player and an activist. And this is a conversation

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Speaker 1: about protecting women's sports, which means no men in women's sports,

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Speaker 1: because women's sports are for women and there's a difference

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Speaker 1: between men and women, and no man will ever become

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Speaker 1: a woman all the rest. And as we saw in

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Speaker 1: front as the conversation went in front of the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: there's a really interesting conversation to have here regarding Title

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Speaker 1: nine because Title nine is all about women's sports and

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Speaker 1: dollars women's sports, and engagement of women's sports, the creation

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Speaker 1: of women's sports. Well, men could be women. There are

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Speaker 1: no women's sports, so I don't have to have any

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Speaker 1: attention to title line at all, scholarship or anything else.

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Speaker 1: They did it much better than I just did it. There.

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Speaker 1: I'm giving you the thirty thousand foot overview as to

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Speaker 1: as to how it got an approach there in front

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Speaker 1: of scotis this Democrat Catherine Miranda, State Senator. Her argument is,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I was a student athlete and maybe

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Speaker 1: you're just not You not have the right mindset, because

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Speaker 1: I would have taken on a man.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I have my sports head on now. It's

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Speaker 2: all about a sports mentality, growing up in sports, being

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Speaker 2: a tomboy. I mean, you look pretty healthy. I've played

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Speaker 2: against girls that looked like you. You look very much

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Speaker 2: in shape and strong. But it's a sports mentality when

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Speaker 2: you're growing up and how much competition that you'll take on.

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Speaker 2: So it's not just a silver bullet for one community

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Speaker 2: of sports players. It's the individual person on how competitive

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Speaker 2: I grew up a different way. I would have taken

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Speaker 1: I played in.

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Speaker 2: I was the only girl sometimes in men's sports, but

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Speaker 2: to have a man on my team, I would have

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Speaker 2: welcomed it. But this is just my opinion. So it

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Speaker 2: just depends on the sports mentality of that individual. And

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Speaker 2: that's why this bill is bad because you're just putting

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Speaker 2: women like me, we have a different opinion. So how

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Speaker 2: competitive do you think you really are?

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Speaker 1: Holy cow? The issue is not men in women's sports.

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Speaker 1: The issue is not feeding into mental illness, but rather,

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Speaker 1: hey lady, why are you so weak? There's a there's

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Speaker 1: a real thing to women hating women, isn't there there is.

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Speaker 1: There's a real thing to women hating other women. One

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Speaker 1: of the great lines that I ever heard was, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you see a man and woman going out, let's say,

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Speaker 1: And the response is always, women don't get dressed up

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Speaker 1: for men, They get dressed up for other women. Now

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Speaker 1: I do not know if that is true. My wife

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Speaker 1: thankful that my wife is not a player in that.

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Speaker 1: My wife is like, give me a little bit of

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Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, girl, what are we even doing here?

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Speaker 1: Let's go home. That is always the conversation. And then

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Speaker 1: we go home. I don't mean to brag. I'm just

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Speaker 1: that good. But the argument of who they engage, who

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Speaker 1: they're trying to impress, always was as a fascinating conversation,

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Speaker 1: and usually I get some response that is some version

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Speaker 1: of well, yeah, that's pretty true. Now people might argue

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Speaker 1: think I'm off base on that, or think that the

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Speaker 1: concept is off based, and that's fine. But the women

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Speaker 1: going after other women thing, you see, your problem is

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Speaker 1: you're just not a strong woman. You're weak because you

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Speaker 1: won't compete against a man. Why should we listen to you?

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Speaker 1: Why can't we compete against men? Now I can answer

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Speaker 1: that question that you're not competing against men, are you.

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Speaker 1: You're saying that they're women. That's the problem. If a

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Speaker 1: woman and a man compete, a woman and a man compete,

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Speaker 1: you're saying men can make a claim. And that's where

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Speaker 1: you're all diseased. But check out the response here that

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Speaker 1: comes from Kaylee Ray. This is very very well done,

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Speaker 1: very well put together, Madame Cherish senator.

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Speaker 3: As elite level athletes, I would say, we're very competitive,

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Speaker 3: which is why this bill designates three categories male, female

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Speaker 3: and co ed. The idea is that everyone can participate

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Speaker 3: in sport. If you want to compete against your man, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: it's like, let's do that in the co ed section.

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Speaker 3: That's the clarity and distinction is really important because when

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Speaker 3: men are allowed access into women's sports and spaces. It's

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Speaker 3: not women's sports and spaces anymore. And as the passage

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Speaker 3: of Title nine was so important, there is a need,

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Speaker 3: a necessity to protect women's spaces.

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Speaker 1: That answer is so good, so complete, so full, I

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Speaker 1: will Sarah, you need to grab it and post it.

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Speaker 1: It's so so perfect, it is so thought out. You

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Speaker 1: ever notice when you're talking to progressives and they are

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Speaker 1: talking about their feelings, right, it's always about their feelings.

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Speaker 1: But then when their feelings are confronted with facts, logic, reason,

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Speaker 1: any level of basic questioning, you see them collapse. The

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Speaker 1: problem is when you are engaged with talked from your feelings,

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Speaker 1: you never once consider that there is something else. Now,

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Speaker 1: the woke crowd, the DEI crowd, the leftist crowd would

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Speaker 1: see this differently. You see, it's about perspective. You don't understand.

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Speaker 1: You don't understand the importance of diversity and how these

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Speaker 1: things connect. And my argument is correct, you don't understand.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, not you them. If we're going to engage

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Speaker 1: a conversation about how things are viewed, because you feel

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Speaker 1: some way emotionally doesn't make it factual. Women having a

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Speaker 1: space for women is exactly the conversation in sports. It's

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Speaker 1: for women. That's why we have women's sports. And what

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Speaker 1: these progressive women who seem to hate other women are

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Speaker 1: saying is how dare you women? Wanting a spot for

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Speaker 1: suite is also bigotry. Do the math figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Anything they decide is bigotry is bigotry because of their

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Speaker 3: It's not to say that no people are banned from sports.

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Speaker 3: That's not the situation at all. If that's the level

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Speaker 3: of competition you want to have for yourself, amazing, go

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Speaker 3: try it in the co ed section. But again, this

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Speaker 3: is what this is about, protecting the women's category in

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Speaker 1: Correct, accurate, smart, together, completely understandable. No, it's not understandable.

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Speaker 1: Is that after everything we have been through, everything we

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Speaker 1: have seen, the left is still trying to make an

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Speaker 1: argument that somehow this is okay. And you say to me, Tony,

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Speaker 1: we're a nation at war. Why are we talking about this, Because,

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Speaker 1: my friend, we're nation at war. We're a nation at

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Speaker 1: war with itself. We're a nation at war with logic

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Speaker 1: and reason and rationality and normalcy. You bet your ass

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Speaker 1: were at war, kitten. That's the problem. And all I'm

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's the Michael Walsh line, the author, the screenwriter, and

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Speaker 1: I always get it wrong, but I'm always I'm always

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Speaker 1: in the ballpark. The Democratic Party, which he's the first

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Speaker 1: person I ever heard say the Democrats are criminal organization

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Speaker 1: masquerading as a political party. It's a good line. The

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Speaker 1: political left. They never stopped, They never rest, they never

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Speaker 1: improve your life, to warp reality, and they're always onto

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Speaker 1: some new thing that in lockstep they all agree with.

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Speaker 1: They are so in agreement about this insanity. And you

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Speaker 1: know it because when someone says, well, well, we shouldn't

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Speaker 1: of children, that's madness. Those people are immediately vilified, they

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Speaker 1: are immediately pushed aside, they're told that they're hateful, and

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Speaker 1: they are attacked until they submit. Didn't they do this

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Speaker 1: on Israel? To John Fetterman centeror Fetterman. He won't submit

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Speaker 1: though he's gonna be a one term guy. Although there

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Speaker 1: really is an interesting conversation, and I would follow Selena

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Speaker 1: Zito her lead on this that Western Pennsylvania they have

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Speaker 1: no interest in what those Philadelphia freaks are doing. They

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Speaker 1: don't care Central Pennsylvania, Western Pennsylvania. They're not down for that.

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Speaker 1: They'll be totally fine with Fetterman, and there is. It

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Speaker 1: will be very interesting to see if when the time comes,

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Speaker 1: if he can get the reelect. Very interesting, but that

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Speaker 1: the progressives are still pushing this man. This is the war.

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Speaker 1: We have a war from without and we have a

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Speaker 1: war from within. Not deniable, and we have to be

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Speaker 1: able to fight on both fronts at all times. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I brought it up. I'm Tony Katz. This

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Speaker 1: is Tony Katz Today. Find everything I do over at

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