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Speaker 1: the program. Nate, welcome back to the Indianapolis Airwaves. How

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Speaker 1: are you, Jill Well, Jake, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: It's cool to get to talk about, you know, one

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Speaker 1: You know, when you if you get homesick at all,

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Speaker 2: I Askeland, Ohio, which is about an hour south of.

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Speaker 1: Who's the biggest celebrity that you have serendipitously run into

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Speaker 1: Teams, biggest thing that Shane Styken has preached operationally, the

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Speaker 1: The Athletic covering the Rams, Rams and Colts on Sunday. Nate,

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Speaker 1: good talking to you, man, I appreciate it. Enjoy LA

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Speaker 1: all right, yep, thanks for having me. Nate Atkins joining

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Speaker 1: I'll begin with this. I guess it says something about Indiana,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying the players feel that way, but is

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so, because I mean there is

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about, you know, defensively, one of their

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Speaker 1: So with this case, do you believe Mike and I

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Speaker 1: realized neither one of us here are attorneys. But does

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Speaker 1: this I'll use the term floodgates for lack of a

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Speaker 1: better does it set a presitup it now where other

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Speaker 1: players won't even have to necessarily file a suit because

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Speaker 1: they will simply say this has already been ruled upon,

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Speaker 1: and so therefore what was ruled for Merediana will help

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Speaker 1: you know, Smith at Texas A.

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Speaker 3: And m No No, because I mean if that was

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Speaker 3: the case and all these other cases would have there's

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Speaker 3: president no. And the NCAA has sort of like an

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Speaker 3: unofficial blanket policy. Their attorney talks about it. Actually in

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Speaker 3: courts they're going to fight every case, no matter what,

446
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Speaker 3: the same that that fault, that that any player that's

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Speaker 3: been denied a waiver. There's a couple left. I mean

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Speaker 3: at this point now we're in the season. I mean

449
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Speaker 3: like a lot of these kids, I mean maybe it'll

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Speaker 3: probably haven't There'll probably be another flugate of suits with

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Speaker 3: basketball player basketball players that have lost waivers because for

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Speaker 3: football now you're obviously i mean you're five weeks into

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Speaker 3: the season. So I think there's a kid from Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: We're waiting for the courts rule on injunction. But a

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Speaker 3: lot of these kids, these cases have come down and

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Speaker 3: the NCAA is just kind of fighting all of them

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Speaker 3: to sort of i mean be neutral sense essentially, like

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Speaker 3: they're not treating any case differently. They're saying anytime we

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Speaker 3: deny waver we are fighting it and saying that those

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Speaker 3: kids should not be eligible. So Uh, there's no sort

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Speaker 3: of precedents.

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Speaker 2: You know, the.

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Speaker 3: Players could use this as as as an argument core that, look,

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Speaker 3: these these cases were one this is what these judges said.

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Speaker 3: But there's no sort of overall precedent that doesn't do that,

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Speaker 3: you know, because there's been cases that have players have

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Speaker 3: won that you know did not necessarily directly help more

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Speaker 3: in the case because I mean he had to go

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Speaker 3: to court and fight for his eligibility.

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Speaker 1: Mike. Was that performance that you saw against Illinois the

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Speaker 1: finest hour in Kurt Signetti's time in Indiana.

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Speaker 3: That's an interesting question. I mean the Nebraska following ranks

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Speaker 3: up there. I mean, I still think the Michigan States

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Speaker 3: became was impressive just because they actually faced the adversity,

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Speaker 3: were on the road and then just los forty seven

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Speaker 3: straight points. I mean there's a couple of them, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean you got to you gotta think, uh. I

478
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Speaker 3: think what's interesting is that Michigan game kind of gets overlooked, like,

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Speaker 3: I mean, that was a really tough game and that

480
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Speaker 3: was a huge atmosphere, and like the playoff doesn't happen

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Speaker 3: if they kind of fumble in that second half, even

482
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Speaker 3: though it gets a really I think defensive had a

483
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Speaker 3: ton of NFL talent, but it's up there. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we'll see kind of you know, it's hard to know,

485
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Speaker 3: right Like, if Illinois loses five games, people are going

486
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Speaker 3: to really discount that performance, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: Yeah and so and so in the moment, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean it felt pretty big, but we'll see. Because Illinois

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Speaker 3: did not look like a team that I had and

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Speaker 3: stuff together.

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Speaker 1: But it just seemed like fascinating to me about it.

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Speaker 1: And I don't disagree with you from the Illinois standpoint

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Speaker 1: of things, right, but at the same time, it just

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Speaker 1: looked with Indiana, it was like, man, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how you find a weakness in that. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: sitting here saying that. You know, my gosh, they are,

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Speaker 1: you know, instantly the best team in that But when

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Speaker 1: you look at it and that game and the way

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Speaker 1: that they're able to just turn up the wick and

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Speaker 1: just go. And if there was an area if Iwall

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Speaker 1: called you right now and said, look, we got to

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Speaker 1: find a weakness of Indiana to exploit, your answer would

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Speaker 1: be what I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, It would be that secondary I mean that the

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Speaker 3: safety is the Donnin Millfield. I mean that would be

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Speaker 3: the answer I think would be Chris Signety's answer. He

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Speaker 3: was kind of he said that, you know, five mistakes

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Speaker 3: and the only reason they didn't hurt him was because

509
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Speaker 3: they were getting so much pressure on the quarterback. Iowa

510
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Speaker 3: has a better offensive line so that they might be

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Speaker 3: able to sort of take advantage of those things. But

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Speaker 3: it's not like a huge thing. I mean to your point, Like,

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Speaker 3: I mean, if they can score with anybody and drop

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Speaker 3: sixty on a dime, I mean, what is you know,

515
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Speaker 3: you've got some room for air. So I mean like,

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Speaker 3: this team is operating at a high level, no doubt,

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Speaker 3: and it's impressive. And I think the sort of common

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Speaker 3: thread from last year is like, man, this team knows

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Speaker 3: how to play with the lead, right, like when they

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Speaker 3: sense weakness, like in a second half. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: think I'd added it up yesterday. I think they're outscoring

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Speaker 3: teams like one hundred and eleven to ten in the

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Speaker 3: second half and they've only allowed one touchdown. So I mean, like,

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Speaker 3: but that's been all of Chritsy Gunny's tenure, really that

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Speaker 3: this team once they sent some you know, once they

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Speaker 3: go into halftime and have a lead, they're not giving

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Speaker 3: it up, and so I think that it's it's just

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Speaker 3: a really impressive sort of set this team has had

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Speaker 3: and focus that you know, you just kind of see

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Speaker 3: it and Chris and Gnaty bridges it every week and

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Speaker 3: it's and it's worked.

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Speaker 1: You know, Mike, there are kind of three styles of coach. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's more, but I'm going to speak generically here. Okay,

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Speaker 1: You've got the Tony Dungee example, where like guys that

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Speaker 1: played for Tony Dungee were like, man, he was just

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Speaker 1: such a botherly figure that I gave my best because

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to disappoint him. I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: let him down. You've got the you know, the Bob

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Speaker 1: Knight style, right, which was like, man, I was just

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Speaker 1: scared to death of this guy and he was constantly

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Speaker 1: on me and pushing me and et cetera. And then

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Speaker 1: you've got the guy that is doesn't necessarily say a lot,

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Speaker 1: but Carrie's with him this level of confidence that just

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Speaker 1: exudes over to the team where they look at him

545
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Speaker 1: and they go, we can win any game because this

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Speaker 1: guy believes in us. Signetti, seemingly from the outside is

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Speaker 1: number three, but you're around it and you talk to

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Speaker 1: guys and you see it a little bit more intimately

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Speaker 1: than do I or the listeners. Which best describes or

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Speaker 1: who exactly is Kurt Signetti?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean the obvious example is Nick Saban, you know,

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Speaker 3: the history and and being sort of I think with

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Speaker 3: Signetti it's more being just a football savant, right like

554
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Speaker 3: that he's always watching film. It's a great evaluator of talent,

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Speaker 3: a great evaluator of scheme, can break things down, and

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Speaker 3: I think you see him being able to you know,

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Speaker 3: here opposing coaches talk about how they exploit mistakes that

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Speaker 3: they find and and you know there's there's such a

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Speaker 3: well coached kind of group in all three phases, and

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Speaker 3: so that's kind of where I would tend to. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's not a you know, you don't hear players and

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Speaker 3: this is not to say they want to win for him,

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Speaker 3: but you don't hear that kind of Tony Dungee kind

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Speaker 3: of talk where oh man, we're all invested in for him.

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Speaker 3: He's more just like we have it's business like and

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Speaker 3: a sin. It's like we have a focus, and we

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Speaker 3: have things to do, and here's what we're going to accomplish.

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Speaker 3: It's not like we're going to win one for him.

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Speaker 3: It's like, we're going to win because that's what we

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Speaker 3: have to do and that's what we're in the business

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Speaker 3: of doing. And so that's sort of I view it

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Speaker 3: is maybe you know Nick Saban sort of Bill Parcels,

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Speaker 3: you kind of trace it in that tree on down

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Speaker 3: where it's like football, football, football, football, and we're going

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Speaker 3: to win, you know, like that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Lastly, Mike, when you look at this matchup with

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Speaker 1: Iowa and in talking to Indiana over the course of

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Speaker 1: the week, the areas for Iowa that are of concern

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Speaker 1: that Indiana is particularly focused on stopping or you know,

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Speaker 1: simply not or taking advantage of perhaps even where they

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Speaker 1: feel Iowa is susceptible. What's the overall read there.

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Speaker 3: Well, a couple of things. I think the noise obviously

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Speaker 3: still matters, because, like I said, I mentioned that Ohio

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Speaker 3: State game, what the offensive line does to communicate they

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Speaker 3: went to a silent count in that game. They're not

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Speaker 3: going to do that because that went so poorly and

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Speaker 3: and Oito State was reading it, So like how they

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Speaker 3: communicate what's that operation look like? Because you know, the

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Speaker 3: offensive line has been really clean. I think special teams.

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Speaker 2: Will be huge.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Iowa is just you know, fantastic. They don't

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Speaker 3: make mistakes. They've had a pupp return and kick return

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Speaker 3: touchdowns this year game against Redger open with the hunter

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Speaker 3: yard return. They have a really really good returner and

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Speaker 3: so I think you have to you know, limit him

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Speaker 3: and I think that'll that'll be really important. And then

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Speaker 3: you win the battle on the trenches. Again, I mentioned

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Speaker 3: the offensive line and the communication, but I mean they

599
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Speaker 3: domed up front of both sides of the ball against Illinois.

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Speaker 3: You're going to see upgrades Iowa a better offensive line,

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Speaker 3: you know, stout on the on the defensive front. Can

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Speaker 3: you win both of those areas? I think I think

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Speaker 3: those kind of are the the sort of the three

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Speaker 3: keys for me.

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Speaker 1: You know one other thing, actually I should have asked

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Speaker 1: you off the top, have a Heisman winner.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I those things are funny, right,

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Speaker 3: Like he's the favorite, but I mean or they play

609
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Speaker 3: Oregon in three weeks and then they played Penn State

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Speaker 3: after that, so I mean, like we'll talk favorites after

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Speaker 3: those games, right, Like if.

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Speaker 1: He does, he's had a favorites that by the end

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Speaker 1: of the year, You're like, what happened to that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like and we all knew, Like, I mean, like, look,

615
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Speaker 3: I had no doubt Fernanda Mendoza was going to put

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Speaker 3: up huge numbers against the Indianita States that would look

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Speaker 3: obviously way way way higher numbers, but like his numbers

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Speaker 3: are inflated from the conference schedule. So like, I mean, yes,

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Speaker 3: he's a he's a I don't think it's not. He's

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Speaker 3: not like a he's a legitimate candidate now, but I

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Speaker 3: think he's got a lot, a lot of heavy lifting

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Speaker 3: to do with like their toughest games still on the schedule,

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Speaker 3: and like he could easily win it. If he wins

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Speaker 3: these like Iowa, Penn State and Oregon, he could have

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Speaker 3: it sewed up in November, if you know, he takes

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Speaker 3: care of business. But if he struggles in those road environments,

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Speaker 3: I think you're going to have a hard time sort of,

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Speaker 3: you know, labeling him as the front ar.

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Speaker 1: Mike Nisalick is the Indiana University athletic beat writer for

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Speaker 1: the Bloomington Herald Times. You can read their articles at

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Speaker 1: the Herald Times on the expost, Twitter and Michael Nisalik,

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Speaker 1: that's inn I z I O. L E. K as

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Speaker 1: well on social media. Mike appreciate it as always.

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Speaker 3: Man, Eddie times, Jake, thanks Man.

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Speaker 1: Matt Taylor going to join us here in just a second.

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Speaker 1: I got to read this from Jalen, Eddie. I would

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Speaker 1: like I'm going to read this from Jalen I and

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Speaker 1: I'm not discrediting Jalen at all, but I want you,

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Speaker 1: Eddie to I'm going to hand it you the responsibility

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Speaker 1: of how you would answer this inquiry. You're ready, Oh,

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Speaker 1: you don't want me to answer it or to read

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Speaker 1: it for you, Dear Jake. I understand that you love

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Speaker 1: to do your teasers before breaks to keep people listening,

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Speaker 1: but you got to understand a lot of the people

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Speaker 1: listening to you are on a break from work and

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Speaker 1: don't have time to sit through the eternal commercial breaks

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Speaker 1: to wait for you to reveal something that you could

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Speaker 1: easily just mention right before the break, just something to consider.

649
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: And he thought on that, Eddie, that's unfortunately not how

650
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: this business works. Joining us now in the program, he's

651
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: the voice of the Indianapolis Colt said, he is Matt Taylor. Matt,

652
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: would you agree with that? He's assessment there?

653
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 4: Man, Oh, man, I what was a gentleman's name. Jalen, Yeah, Jalen.

654
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 4: Jalen didn't go to broadcasting school. I don't think he's

655
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 4: got a he didn't get a minor in broadcast journalism

656
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 4: or uh or a communication.

657
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 3: You don't one.

658
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: I get it, though, I mean I I do understand

659
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: where he's coming from. Believe you me.

660
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 5: You know, way he can do Matt and Jake, if

661
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 5: he's interested, he could always download the podcast and listen

662
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 5: to it that way what was teased?

663
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: Indeed?

664
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 4: Correct, pull up the YouTube stream, you know, mark the tape,

665
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 4: you find out where you left off, and hit the

666
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 4: little scroll and you know you're fine.

667
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: I'd like to know this, Matt, give me the song

668
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: that comes on radio that you're driving and you get

669
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: to your house and you go ahead and you sit

670
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: in the driveway because the song ain't over.

671
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 4: Oh man, there's a lot of them. I love these

672
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 4: questions from you, man, They're always good. Well, you just

673
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 4: play Tom Petty, So anything by Tom Petty, you know,

674
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 4: like if it's uh listened to her heart, that one's

675
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 4: a good one. I'll tell you what. I'll give you

676
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 4: a song. I say this all the time. If people

677
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 4: roll their eyes at me because they know me. But

678
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 4: if I heard if I heard I heard it in

679
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 4: a love song by Marshall Tucker every day for the

680
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 4: rest of my life, I would not get.

681
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: Tired of that song that every time we have you

682
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: on How's that?

683
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

684
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 4: And and I Won't back Down by Tom Petty a

685
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: song that I heard. If I heard it every single

686
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 4: day for the rest of my life, I still wouldn't

687
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 4: get sick of it.

688
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough?

689
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, how about you?

690
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: Man?

691
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: I go in cycles. You know what I mean. I mean,

692
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: I I think if I had to pick, and it's

693
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: such an unoriginal answer because I think it was listed

694
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: as like the number one song ever by Rolling Stone.

695
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: If I had to pick my favorite song of all time,

696
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: it's probably like a rolling Stone by Bob Dylan. I'm

697
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: not gonna find you, but but I really like Hello

698
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: by Oasis.

699
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 4: Okay, I've got to I've got another obscure one now

700
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 4: that I've had time to stew on it. Okay, and

701
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 4: I did this one time. I'm man enough to admit

702
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 4: it because I'm weird as you know. But one time

703
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 4: I was shopping by myself and a Kroger and this

704
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 4: song came on and I hadn't heard it in like

705
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 4: four years or something.

706
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: And do you normally shop as with a group at Kroger?

707
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: I mean, is that the is Tuesday your Kroger shopping

708
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: club day and this was a Wednesday? Is that this one?

709
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 4: I just had to go by myself. Everybody failed.

710
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: So as you were.

711
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: No.

712
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 4: So like I'm in the serial aisle, you know, I'm

713
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 4: in there to get like two or three things on

714
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 4: my way home from work. One day, I'm in the

715
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 4: serial asle or whatever, and I hear feeling satisfied by Boston.

716
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 4: I don't know why. It just sort of like hit me,

717
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 4: like I haven't heard this song in like five years.

718
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 4: I just stopped dead in my tracks and I just

719
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 4: sat in the aisle by myself and listened to the

720
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 4: song until is over.

721
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: See that's like one of those moments. Yeah, okay, And

722
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: to see and Matt, this is why you and I

723
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: are and this is going to be very uncomfortable. I

724
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: realized this is why we're kind of spirit animals, because

725
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: you are observant like myself, you know what I mean?

726
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: Like you notice, I think I'm convinced that ninety eight

727
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: percent of all people not only you know, aren't losers

728
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: and shop at Kroger alone. But don't don't hear that,

729
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

730
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

731
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean I'm very Yeah, I'm with you.

732
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 4: Like I think I'm very much always sort of cognizant

733
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 4: of my surroundings. I'm a very observant person, and I'm

734
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 4: I observe h in nature. I like to think I

735
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 4: have a master's degree in common sense and body language.

736
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 4: So like, if if I'm talking to you right now

737
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 4: and you're not picking up what I'm putting down, We're

738
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 4: probably not gonna, you know, right right, We're probably not gonna,

739
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 4: you know, continue this conversation. So like I have the

740
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 4: the the mental capacity to say, all right, moving on.

741
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 4: You know, I can make chit chat with just about everybody,

742
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 4: But like, if you're not jiving on me, no big deal.

743
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 4: I'll just keep keep it going and see what sticks

744
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 4: with somebody else.

745
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: You know, we mutually know some people that don't read

746
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: the room. Well, right, why are you talking about?

747
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 2: Right?

748
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, Eddie.

749
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 4: Okay, he always makes things incredibly awkward.

750
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: Matt. My first question about this game on Sunday, and

751
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with what's going to tell

752
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: you you have or have not called a game in

753
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: so far? My apologies for not recalling you have right, No,

754
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: this will be the first one, okay, And I here's

755
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: why I ask. It has I don't know if you've

756
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: been to it or been by it, but it has

757
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: a massive not unlike you know Vegas has this. Now

758
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: certainly Jerry World does. It has a massive video board

759
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: that literally seemingly is like the length of the field.

760
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: And I'm curious when you're calling a game depending on it.

761
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: And I don't know where the press box is for

762
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 1: this one, but do you ever find yourself actually glued

763
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: almost as much to the video board as to the

764
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: field itself.

765
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, So the thing that you're referring to, I read

766
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: about it, and I've seen pictures of it. Obviously they

767
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: call it, I don't know if they still do, but

768
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 4: when the building first opened they called it the oculus.

769
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 3: This it's like a.

770
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 4: Ring, you know, a circular jumbo tron in the middle

771
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: of the field, you know that hangs over the middle

772
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 4: of the field. I should say so, Yeah, our I

773
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 4: do know where the press box is and where the

774
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 4: radio booth location is. It's not great it's very, very high,

775
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 4: and it's in the corner, which is sort of like

776
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 4: doubly bad. So yeah, I'll fully admit that when the

777
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 4: ball is on the other side of the field, uh,

778
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 4: furthest away from my vantage point, I'll be looking at everything.

779
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 4: I'll be looking at you know, I'll use my eyes,

780
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 4: I'll use the binoculars, I'll use the the oculus.

781
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: Uh.

782
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 4: And I'll have a monitor in front of me in

783
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 4: the in the in the radio booth as well. So

784
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 4: between all of those things, that's what you have to

785
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 4: do to make it work.

786
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: And you know, we've talked about this before.

787
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 4: More and more new newer stadiums are putting the media

788
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 4: and broadcast setups in the corner. Uh. And they're using

789
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 4: the prime locations for v IP club area and season

790
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 4: ticket holders and all of those things. And I get

791
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 4: it right, that's those are the people that pay the

792
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 4: bills and sponsors and stuff like that. So you got

793
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 4: to make do you know. I'm over just you know,

794
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 4: crying about it because there's nothing you can do. It's

795
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 4: only gonna get worse. So you know, there's bad you

796
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 4: mentioned Dallas. Uh, the Raiders is not terrible. It's high

797
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 4: and I can deal with high Washington is terrible, Pittsburgh's

798
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: not good, Arizona's not good. Uh where else. Minnesota is

799
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 4: in the corner, So you know, I've done enough games

800
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: to be in bad locations. Just to make it work,

801
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 4: you have to kind of like pause and you know,

802
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 4: make sure you have the exact line of scrimmage and

803
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 4: the exact yard markers because it is a little bit

804
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 4: of a different harsh angle. Sometimes you know.

805
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: The tenskway from you right, you know, if they're going

806
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: away from me, it's tough.

807
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 4: So you know you can you could definitely if you're

808
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 4: just listening to me. I think if you're just listening

809
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 4: to a broadcast that's in the corner, you can tell

810
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 4: because they tap dance a little bit on air, giving

811
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 4: you more details until they definitively know where the line

812
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 4: of scrimmage is or the gain of the ball because

813
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 4: you just can't see it very well. But in our case,

814
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 4: Layer is on the field. She can talk to me

815
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 4: on the sideline in my headset, so she's helping spot

816
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 4: on the far end of the field and helping identify

817
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 4: new line of scrimmage and stuff like that. So we

818
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 4: make it work. But Yeah, there's there's better vantage points

819
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 4: in the NFL for sure.

820
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: But by the way, this studio I'm in right now

821
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: is round, so there's no corner. But I tap danced

822
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: three hours a day just so you know, I know,

823
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: you know. Well, thanks, okay, matt In terms of players

824
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: whose names you're going to call a lot for the

825
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: Rams offensively on Sunday, it goes without saying that, Matthew

826
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: Stafford and we've been talking about it over the course

827
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: of today. He has two receivers that he is throwing to,

828
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: understandably so with the most frequency nearly seventy percent of

829
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: the time. What player, if you are calling their name

830
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: a lot on Sunday when the Rams have the football,

831
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: is it bad news for Indianapolis because its means that

832
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: LA is opening up their playbook.

833
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think in the slot, Kuka Nakua,

834
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 4: you know, he is one of the best receivers but

835
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 4: certainly one of the best slot receivers in the NFL.

836
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 4: In fact, already leaves the NFL in both catches and

837
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 4: receiving yards. He's on pace for more receiving yards this

838
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 4: year than he had when he was a rookie when

839
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 4: he broke the record, the NFL rookie record for both

840
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 4: catches and receiving yards by a first year player, So

841
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 4: he is definitely somebody you're going to have to be

842
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 4: concerned with, and you know, lighting up in the slot

843
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 4: primarily as he does. It'd be great to have one

844
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 4: of the best nickel corners in the game, but it

845
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 4: sounds like the Colts will not have that luxury with

846
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 4: Kenny Moore of the second he's got that calf injury

847
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 4: that's kind of, according to Shane Stike and now kind

848
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 4: of morphed into the combination of a calf and an

849
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 4: achilles and so that's you know, anytime you hear the

850
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 4: achilles word around here, you know, people start shaking a

851
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 4: little bit because of what's happened in the past with

852
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 4: injuries to superstars in this market, most specifically recently with

853
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 4: Tyrese Halliburton. So it's understandable. But they say he's not

854
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 4: going to go on ir, which is good. So it's

855
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 4: going to be kind of a week to week thing

856
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 4: here going forward. But I think it's safe to assume

857
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 4: that he might miss a game or two, and in

858
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 4: this game, obviously that's less than desirable because you just

859
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 4: want to have his experience out there, his savviness and

860
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 4: his playmaking ability as we saw in that first series

861
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 4: against Tennessee taking that interception back, you know, thirty plus yards.

862
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 4: But you know they don't just sit around and wait

863
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 4: and hope and you know, sort of cross their fingers.

864
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 4: They go bold, bringing into Mike Hilton kind of experience

865
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 4: with loui Ane Rumo in this defense, spent four years

866
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 4: with Cincinnati, he's on the practice squad. I think it's

867
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 4: a no brainer as of right now to think that

868
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 4: he's going to get brought up on Saturday. With the

869
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 4: standard elevation there. Makai Blackman has started, or I should

870
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 4: say it's played some at Nickel in his career, but

871
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 4: he's been primarily an outside guy. So they do have options,

872
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 4: but you know it's you would definitely want Kenny Moore

873
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 4: out there in a game like this, trying to shut

874
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 4: down I think the premier slot receiver in the NFL

875
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 4: right now.

876
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: You know the Matt I mentioned this earlier, and I'm

877
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: curious your thought on this. If you were to survey

878
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: general managers in the NFL and we're going to take

879
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: the with no disrespect for what I'm about to ask,

880
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to take a punter kicker holder combination out

881
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: of the equation as a potential answer here. Okay, but

882
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: if you surveyed general managers at the beginning of the

883
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: season and said, I'm looking into a crystal ball, and

884
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: over the course of the year, you're going to have

885
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: one unit room want one group in terms of your

886
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: football roster where you're going to have to go really

887
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: deep and possibly into midweek acquisition players to play on Sunday.

888
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: So you've got the wide receiver room, you've got the

889
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: offensive line room, the defensive line room, et cetera. What

890
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: room do you believe general managers would most select to

891
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: have that be the case for them, because it's the

892
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: one where you can have the least fall off with

893
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: guys that you are planting in on a Sunday that

894
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: you acquired on a Tuesday.

895
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 2: Oh man, good question.

896
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 4: You know it's obviously not quarter I mean the premium

897
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 4: positions are out right across those off premium positions our quarterback, receiver,

898
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 4: defensive end, cornerback, left tackle, you know, throw in right

899
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 4: tackle in there as well. So that leaves you with

900
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 4: a lot of positions on defense. I guess gunned tohead,

901
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 4: Like if I'm a general manager and I'm answering that

902
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 4: question for myself, and I'm not answering for you know,

903
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 4: Chris Ballard or Less Sneed or somebody, right, Like, if

904
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 4: I have to answer just for me, I would say

905
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 4: probably linebacker, in no particular order, linebacker, safety, and running back.

906
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

907
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: See, I thought defensive backfield in general, right, only in

908
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: safety would be specifically the best there. But I think

909
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: it's any position Matt to your point where you're not

910
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: overly reliant on the feel or the chemistry and the

911
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: movement of the guys around you within your unit. Does

912
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: that make sense?

913
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does. And you know it's one of those again,

914
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 4: not to downplay anything, I mean, playing linebacker in most

915
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 4: defensive schemes, it's.

916
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: Pretty transferable, right, I'm not trying to dumb down the position,

917
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: but you get what I'm saying, Like, you know, it's

918
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 2: you know, whether you're playing in a in a base

919
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,959
Speaker 2: four three or you know, a variation of a five

920
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: minut front. At times, playing linebacker is pretty much transferable.

921
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 4: Same thing at safety. You know, running back obviously has

922
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 4: seen a lot of It's been a polarizing position. Just

923
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 4: because at the top end you've got guys like Saekwon

924
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 4: Barkley and Jonathan Taylor and Derrick Henry that deserve all

925
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: of the money. But you know, for the last ten

926
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 4: years or so, you know, that's been one of the

927
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 4: positions at least on offense that's been you know, sort

928
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 4: of downgraded. And you know, we've seen the idea of

929
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 4: going cheap and young at that position, you know, paying

930
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 4: guys or using guys that are on your rookie contracts

931
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 4: because you're gonna get similar production from a young guy

932
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: compared to you know, a guy you give a second

933
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 4: con track to. You know, like, if you can get

934
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 4: eighty percent out of an undrafted rookie free agent at

935
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 4: running back, why do I have to pay somebody that's

936
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 4: going into a second contract that has, you know, whatever

937
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 4: it is, six hundred and seven hundred carries under their

938
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 4: belt in the NFL and a lot of wear and tear.

939
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 4: So that's generally speaking, kind of the ideology there. But yeah,

940
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 4: I mean, you never want to be fit in any place.

941
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 4: But you know, if you have to choose, I guess

942
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 4: sort of be linebacker, safety and then depending on who

943
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 4: you got a running back you can make it work

944
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 4: with a platoon situation.

945
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: I'm going to let you read one more listener comment here, Matt,

946
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: and I'll have you this time. Last time it was Eddie.

947
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: I'll have you respond to this one. Hey, Jake, do

948
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: you really think single people that shop at Kroger are losers?

949
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 4: Well, you're putting me in a bad spot here.

950
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: They're asking if I think that, because and I'm like,

951
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: you'll have my back here, Matt, that I was simply

952
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: playing on the fact that you mentioned being at Kroger

953
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: by yourself, and I was making the implication of like,

954
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: isn't that how most people go to Kroger? Like in

955
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: other words, I would actually saying that's the norm, not

956
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: the I was. I was being overly sarcastic. Now, Matt,

957
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: you didn't think I was calling you a loser, did you?

958
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: Well?

959
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: No, not that I'm overly worried about said things. But right, No, I.

960
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 4: Don't know how about you. But if you, if you

961
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 4: ever do shop with another person, why is it that

962
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 4: you always come home with way more than what you

963
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 4: anticipated or what you wanted to if you were just

964
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 4: going to go by yourself.

965
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: And the other thing is just if you with me.

966
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing if you shop with someone else,

967
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: Like if Shannon and I go, like, you know, we

968
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: go to the store or whatever, okay, and I'm like,

969
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: you know, first off, i can't go more than two

970
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: aisles before I'm like, look, I know what I got

971
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: to get and I'll be right back. I'm going to

972
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: go down to such as and then and here's the thing.

973
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: Then you can't find each other. Doesn't that ninety percent

974
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: of the time end up with a text from one

975
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: or the other, Like I'm in the check out now

976
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, you can't find the many It's literally

977
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: it's like this. It's like a corn maze.

978
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 4: I can't I can't tell you how many times I've

979
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 4: gotten the where are you in all caps? You know,

980
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 4: about about thirteen thirteen minutes away from being separated, Like

981
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 4: I'm in I'm in the dairy, you know, looking for

982
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 4: Mexican cheese, taco night. Yeah, she's buying, she's bottling. She's

983
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 4: buying three cases of bottle of water and also too,

984
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,479
Speaker 4: like I don't know if this happens to anybody else,

985
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 4: but it just seems like every time I step into

986
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 4: a croker or a big store, like Target or Meyer,

987
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 4: I immediately.

988
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: Have to go to the bathroom.

989
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 4: So I usually just go to the bathroom and wander

990
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 4: off without telling her where I am there. So we

991
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 4: just crisscross each other all over the store for a good.

992
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: Twin, and that becomes tricky because sometimes they're upfront by

993
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 1: the registers, or they might be back near the dairy

994
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: right oh.

995
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, or they might not have any at all, and

996
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 4: then you just walk the entire store and looking for

997
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 4: a bathroom that doesn't exist.

998
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: That is also a possibility. All right, last thing, I

999
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: have something from that after this, Matt, the cereal when

1000
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: you were in the cereal out, give me the last

1001
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: guilty pleasure cereal that you bought strictly because your parents

1002
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: didn't let you have it as a kid. And you're like,

1003
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm a man now I'm eating it and you bought it.

1004
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 4: Oh fruity pebble bingo, babe.

1005
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: I have no off sweach, no off switch with those

1006
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: bad boys.

1007
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 4: None And it doesn't matter how many bulls or how

1008
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 4: many scoops, Like you never get full.

1009
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: It's the Donado's pizza like the same thing, Like it

1010
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: doesn't fill you up. It's weird, like you know, what

1011
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean. It's not hogh quality necessarily or bad, but

1012
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: you know, you're just like it's just there, right.

1013
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 4: Just do you still feel hungry? So you just keep

1014
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 4: housing you know, terrible sugar packed you know, non non

1015
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 4: nutrient filled substinance.

1016
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: And the rainbow color is always esthetically pleasing, all right,

1017
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: Edie Matt how old are your kids?

1018
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 4: Eight and five?

1019
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 5: Are you familiar with the movie K Pop Demon Hunters?

1020
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: Dude?

1021
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 4: I am way too familiar with K Pop Demon Hunters? Okay,

1022
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 4: So are you getting the soda Pop?

1023
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: Dang it, you stole it.

1024
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1025
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 5: I was just saying, are your soda pop now? And

1026
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 5: I just think of you and Rick Venturi and the

1027
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 5: McDonald's commercial.

1028
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hate, I hate to burst your bubble, but yeah,

1029
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 4: I listened to Soda Pop about thirteen times a day.

1030
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1031
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 4: And then my little guy, he's really big into Sonic

1032
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 4: the Hedgehog right now. So Sonic has a theme song,

1033
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 4: so I know that by heart. So yeah, you'll get

1034
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 4: there one day. Man. It's they that the phases are

1035
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 4: are short, but they are impactful. They leave, they leave scars. Man,

1036
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 4: You like you wake up in the middle of the

1037
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 4: night just singing all this stuff that they're into and

1038
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,479
Speaker 4: it goes quick, but man, it's they're into it really

1039
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 4: really hard for just a quick amount of time.

1040
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: But how long were you in the studio at the

1041
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: film a McDonald's commercial.

1042
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 4: By the way, we were in there four hours because

1043
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 4: they had to shoot that from five different angles. They

1044
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 4: had one camera. The crew was great, they were awesome,

1045
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 4: and we were in there a long time, but not

1046
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 4: because you know, they were messing around and weren't professional.

1047
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 4: But they only had one camera and so we had

1048
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 4: to shoot it from like five different angles. They had

1049
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 4: to shoot it from like my my vantage point, Rick's

1050
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 4: vantage point in front, behind it. It a whole ordeal.

1051
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: Well, it was worth it because Rick told me he

1052
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: now has seven franchises as trade. So I hope you

1053
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: got the same. All right, Matt Colts rams coming up.

1054
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: It'll be in and out Burger along with your McDonald's,

1055
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: probably in LA. But we look forward to the game

1056
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: and certainly appreciate the time as always.

1057
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 4: All right, boys, appreciate you guys having the weekend.

1058
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: That is the independent shopping. Matt Taylor joining us