1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Man, the Democrats really don't want to make people go 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: to work. 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: What are we in, oh, day thirty, day thirty of 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 2: the shutdown? 5 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: And by the way, let me say this as emphatically 6 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: as I possibly can, and this some people are going 7 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: to be really mad at me for saying this. But 8 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: welcome to our show. It's kill o Casey show. I'm 9 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: rob by the way. Yeah, in the case he's not 10 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: responsible for anything I say. 11 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: That's true. I may some people are going to be 12 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 3: angry about this. 13 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't give a damn about these Obamacare premiums doubling 14 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: because my premiums go up every single year and not 15 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: one person's ever get well. I can't say that no 16 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: person's ever given a crap about me or me being 17 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: able to pay for insurance. My wife and I are 18 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: going through this right now. You know you're getting in 19 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: the season where the companies are sending you the info. 20 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the open enrollment starts in what two days? 21 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: Well, I'm saying for like regular people that have to 22 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,959 Speaker 1: go out and pay their full freight? Is anybody ever 23 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: crying for you about your premiums going up? 24 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: Has they? 25 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: Everyone said, oh no, Casey has to pay more for 26 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: insurance this year. Yet people who are essentially free loading 27 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: off the citation. Oh, we'll move heaven and earth for 28 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: those people, the hard working we were out there doing 29 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: it every single day. 30 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: We don't care at all about them. Nobody's standing up 31 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 3: for them. 32 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: But these government people, they're crying rivers of tears over 33 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: these Obamacare premiums going up. 34 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: Speaker Mike Johnson right now giving his daily briefing on 35 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: the government shut down. 36 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: I hate all these people, Okay, every single one of them. 37 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: I hate these Republicans who never do what they say 38 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: they're gonna do. They never follow through on reforms, they 39 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: never followed through on getting spending under control. We're gonna 40 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: just have a We're just going it's what level of 41 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 1: larger government are we gonna have? That's what this is about, 42 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: because the baseline of what the Republicans are fighting for 43 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: is the same government we already have. You know, the 44 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: Democrats are gonna get something out of this. They're not 45 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: gonna cave and get nothing over the long term. So 46 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: we're just fighting for what sort of larger, more expensive 47 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: government are we gonna have, which is gonna make everything 48 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: more expensive. 49 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: Well, the frustrating part about this is passing the Continuing Resolution. 50 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: Is not the time to debate policy that's either before 51 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: or after. It's not right now. And that's what the 52 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: Democrats are trying to do. They're trying to change policy. 53 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: But they're not doing anything different than the Republicans haven't 54 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: done before. The Republicans shut the government down over Obamacare. 55 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: Trump shut the government down over the border wall a 56 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I mean, we're we're not talking 57 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: about any sort of meaningful structural change about our society. 58 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 3: We're crumbling. 59 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: I mean, they're doing the exact worst things they can 60 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: possibly They're about to cut interest rates again. 61 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: You know what that's gonna do. It's gonna cook the economy. 62 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: It's gonna cook the. 63 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: Economy because Trump's made horrible decisions with the tariffs. Our 64 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: economy is broken, our government is broken. And instead of 65 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: having honest conversations with society about where we're at and 66 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: what we're actually gonna have to do, which is gonna 67 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: involve everybody feeling a little bit of pain to get 68 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: this thing rectified, they just keep trying to cover it 69 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: up and go, see everything's great, everything's fine, and the 70 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: realities things are not fine. Everything is ridiculously expensive if 71 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: you can get it. In many cases a lot of 72 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: so you can't even get. And here we are. The 73 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: argument is should we just keep it the same or 74 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: should we make it worse? 75 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: So seen a majority Leader John Thune, he was not 76 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: happy yesterday when he was speaking, but he did say 77 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: that there's been an increase in conversations among the rank 78 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 2: and file senators, calling it a precursor of things to come. However, 79 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: not everybody agrees. Senator Tom Tillis from North Carolina said 80 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: he hasn't seen any evidence of any formal negotiations. It's 81 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: just more rhetoric, more back and forth. And yesterday Representative 82 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: John Gottenheimer he was saying he's a Democrat, but he 83 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: was saying that Chuck Schumer should be reopening the government immediately. 84 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 4: Well, I think we actually, I mean, it doesn't solve 85 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 4: the health insurance problem, the premium problem. I think, what's 86 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 4: a very fair deal and is open the government and 87 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 4: lets us vote on extending these premiums for a year 88 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 4: or more. Well, I don't understand what's so hard about. 89 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: And by the way, Senator Thune has offered that I 90 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 4: believe he said we'll have a you'd offered up a 91 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 4: vote that we can actually have a vote on extending 92 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 4: these premiums. I think when put to it, you're going 93 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 4: to see Democrat and Republicans senators and congressmen and women 94 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: want to vote for that. Why would you not want 95 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 4: to vote to extend help with these tax credits? Get 96 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 4: premiums down for people people. You know, people are getting 97 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 4: hurt right now in their pop books. They're they're really 98 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 4: really need help, So why not give them some help? 99 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: So you had what about my help? 100 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 101 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: When does anybody care about me and my family? 102 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: I go to work every day, I pay my taxes, 103 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: I abide by all applicable rules and regulations. 104 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 3: Nobody ever cares about us. 105 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: They're always focused on these little pocket groups of people. 106 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 3: What about me? What about the people who go to 107 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: work every single day? 108 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 1: All these politicians do, the Republicans and democ Crats alike, 109 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: is make living more unaffordable and equality of life less obtainable. 110 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: And I'm just so sick of it. 111 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm so sick of the lies, I'm so sick of 112 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: the dishonesty, I'm so sick of the deceit. And it 113 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: comes from both of these political parties, and it's never 114 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: like there's nothing they're doing that's gonna make it any better. 115 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: They are, they are, they are crying rivers of tears. 116 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and it's gonna make people mad, but they 117 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: are crying rivers of tears or freeloaders. Who are they 118 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: focused on the SNAP people, which there's no way thirteen 119 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: percent of this country can't get off their ass and 120 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: go to work, which is basically what's on government benefits 121 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: related to SNAP right now. We did the math the 122 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: other day on the air, and they're crying over these 123 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: people who are already on government subsidized health insurance. 124 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: That's it. 125 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: Nothing about you, nothing about me, nothing worry about man 126 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: Casey's premiums went up again this year. How's she gonna 127 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: afford that? Anybody ever ask that question. No, it's about 128 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: we can't disrupt the freeloaders, the SNAP benefits, and the 129 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: Obamacare people. 130 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 3: That's the conversation right now. 131 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: Representative Laura Gillan from New York, she's a Democrat. She 132 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: accused the leaders of using hunger as a political weapon, 133 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: calling for urgent action to protect food Aid and now 134 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: you're hunger. 135 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: We're one of the fattest countries in the world. Casey, 136 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: what do you mean hunger. 137 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: Right, isn't incredible? 138 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: And you see all of these people coming out saying 139 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: how they're going to lose their snap benefits and it 140 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: would be okay if they skipped a meal here or there. 141 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: Hey, Chubby, say get off the couch and go to work. 142 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: I don't like. 143 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: I'm so sick of this, Casey, I have so reached 144 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: my limit with this. We are getting crushed regular people 145 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: who get up and do their jobs every day for 146 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: exactly and nothing's getting any better for us. Nothing's getting 147 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: more affordable for us. Everything everything gets more expensive every 148 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: almost everything outpaces any wage increase somebody might be getting. 149 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: And I don't see anybody on that television on either 150 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: side worried about us. 151 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: Okay, well here's a woman. Oh no, the government. 152 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: People might have to go a few days before they 153 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: get paid. 154 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 5: Oh no. 155 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 6: Oh the staffers, the house that sat at staffers, they 156 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 6: might miss the paycheck. 157 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: Oh no. Nobody was worried. 158 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: During COVID, when businesses were getting closed, people would put 159 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: their lives into making businesses, many of them never to return. 160 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: Nobody cared about that. Nobody was worried during COVID when 161 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: a million people got put out of work in the 162 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: state of Indiana, Nobody cried. Nobody cried for them. Nobody 163 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: worries each month about whether they're gonna able to make 164 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: your mortgage payment. Nobody worries about any of this stuff. 165 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: You know what they worry about. They worry about the government, 166 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: all the stuff that's associated with the government, the government workers, 167 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: the people on the government benefits. That's what they focus on. 168 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: Nobody ever cares about us. 169 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: Listen to this woman, she's very upset that she's going 170 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,239 Speaker 2: to be losing her benefits. And check out her math. 171 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 7: I just learned that I don't get to eat this month. 172 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 7: I don't get my bootstamps this month because a mother 173 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 7: in the White House and orange mother in the White 174 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 7: House once a ballroom for three billion dollars, I don't 175 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 7: get to eat. What what My government is supposed to 176 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 7: help me not hurt me. Why is it hurting me? 177 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: You're supposed to help yourself. 178 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: It's not a three billion dollars ballroom. And by the way, 179 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: that's not being funded by taxpayers. So are you more 180 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: upset about the people complaining about losing their snap benefits 181 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: or are you more upset about the threat of military 182 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: not getting paid consider that these are people who are 183 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: putting their life on the line. 184 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, Casey, Again, it comes back 185 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: to blaming the politicians. How much time did they waste 186 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: on that stupid, big bullcrap bill. The most of them 187 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: didn't read. They were changing it on the fly, They 188 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: were just throwing things out. They were cutting deals with 189 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: senators from different states to get them to vote yes. 190 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: Should they have been spending that time focused on getting 191 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 1: this solved so that this didn't happen, thinking they'd have 192 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: spent six months on this instead of that. 193 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 2: Do you think that this is a precursor to ending 194 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: the snap program altogether? 195 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: No, the government, the Republicans and the government are just 196 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: as addicted to the legalized vote buying as the Democrats are. 197 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: We're not going to stop any of this. 198 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: That's the way nothing ever changes. We've talked about this 199 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: numerous times. The best weapon at the Republican's disposal on 200 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: this is to simply say all we're doing is approving 201 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's government. Of course they can't and won't do that, 202 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: because then people we might have to admit that right, 203 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely nothing ever changes. There's always some secret plan, right. 204 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: I thought the shutdown was going to get rid of 205 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: all these people. Who are all the people who have 206 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: been fired never to return. When did that happen? Where 207 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: is that going? How much money is that saving us? 208 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: None of these It's always there's a secret plan. Trump's 209 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: gotta ace up his sleeve. You don't know what's about 210 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 3: to happen next. And nothing ever happened. 211 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: And all the different individual bills that are coming out 212 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: to pay different sections. Okay, well let's do this a 213 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: bill to get the snap benefit. Well, let's do this 214 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 2: bill to get the military paid. Let's do this bill 215 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 2: to get the essential workers paid. 216 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: What about the bill that makes living more affordable for everyone? 217 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: What about the bill that focuses on how we can 218 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: get back to affording food? 219 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: When do these bills start happening? 220 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: Because all these people do in Washington is spend more money, 221 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: which makes it worse, and they make it harder for 222 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: us to do the things to live a daily decent. 223 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm not asking to be rich, I'm not asking to 224 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: be loaded. I'm not asking to spend my weekends making 225 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: a rain at the bellagio. I'm simply talking about being 226 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: able to go to the grocery store and not leave 227 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: going gosh, that really hurt. 228 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 2: They like to create the problem so they can solve the. 229 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 3: Problemt I hate all of these people. 230 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: You're listening to Kendell and Casey on ninety three WIBC. 231 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 3: Okay, so we're gonna. 232 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: Go through the township government debate again. And nothing's ever change? 233 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: Is that what you're telling me? 234 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: I believe that's the story. 235 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, so it's kind of okase, Jean Rob that's Casey. 236 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: It's so funny because we just did a segment on 237 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: how nothing ever changes and how these politicians just bark 238 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: and bark and talk and talk and then they never 239 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: do anything that helps you. And it really you know, 240 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: it's easy to look at Washington, DC, but you have 241 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: to bring it back home because it happens in our 242 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: backyard all of the time. And one of the things 243 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: that really should be front and center for everyone in 244 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: the state of Indiana is you are getting screwed so 245 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: that people in your community can have positions of influence 246 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: that they don't really do anything. And that's really what 247 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: township government has become. So most people probably know this 248 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: that we have a very educated audience. But for those 249 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: who don't, let me kind of explain how your layers 250 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: of local government work. 251 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: Right. 252 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: So there's the state government that oversees all of Indiana. 253 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: They kept the laws, rules, regulations. But then in your 254 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: communities you have a county government, a county commissioner's county council. 255 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: They vote on things for your county as a collective. 256 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: Then below that is the township governments. Now, the township 257 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: governments are little pockets that exist inside the county. And 258 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: then below that are the cities and towns. Now, because 259 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: it's not eighteen thirty two anymore, many areas are now 260 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: in what they call consolidated areas. They've become cities and towns. 261 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: There are fewer and fewer every day with growth, with 262 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: the expansion whatever of unincorporated, unconsolidated areas. And yet we 263 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: still have this massively expensive layer of government called township government, 264 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: with no real responsibility that couldn't be easily duplicated by 265 00:12:54,160 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: somebody else. And still because our lawmakers are petrified of 266 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: a lot of these township government people because that's where 267 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: they view their primary group of challengers, potential challengers to 268 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: come from they refuse to address this issue and at 269 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: the very least revamp and reform township government to save 270 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: everybody a whole bunch of money. 271 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 2: Who's going to handle the fence dispute if there's no 272 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: township government. So Governor Braun's office and some different lawmakers, 273 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 2: they're kind of signaling, all right, it's time to do 274 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: some reform, and it is actually something they may address 275 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: in the upcoming legislative session. I love that. Let me 276 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: just read this to you a follow up on Broun's 277 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: property tax reform effort from this session. 278 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: So Indie stars did a big X was a on this. 279 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: Hailey Colombo and MRSA Mater talked about the township government. 280 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: You know, it came out in the property tax bill. 281 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: Hearing it and Ed Delaney, who's a Democrat, was really 282 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: harping on this, saying, look, we have all of these 283 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: layers of government, thousands of layers of local government. Literally, 284 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: there are almost whatever it is, three thousand units of 285 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: local government in the state of Indiana. You can't ever 286 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: get meaningful tax reform while you have all of these 287 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: units of government that are going to take all of 288 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: this money. You have to reform the system. And when 289 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: we're expressing frustration with this, because almost twenty years ago now, 290 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: Mitch Daniels put together a bipartisan commission. It was Randall Shephard, 291 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: the Republican Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, working in 292 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: coordination with Joe Kernan, the former Democrat governor, and they 293 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: formed a committee and it was called the Kern and 294 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: Shepherd Report. And what they did this is, like I said, 295 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: almost been twenty years ago now. They laid out very 296 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: common sense, mainstream bipartisan solutions saying, hey, if you guys 297 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: do these things, it will reform local government in a 298 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: way that not only makes it more cost effective, but 299 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: more efficient and better serve us providing for the taxpayers. 300 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: You know how many of those provisions of the Kern 301 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: and Shepherd Report got enacted. 302 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 3: Casey, I'm going to get zero. Yeah. 303 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: Basically, Zilch and sat on a table collected does. They 304 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: don't need another study, they don't need another committee. The 305 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: document already exists. It would one hundred percent work today. 306 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: They can just open it up and go, hey, let's 307 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: do this. But they won't do it because these township trustees, 308 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: the people who oversee the townships, are so powerful and 309 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: these politicians so fear them as their primary block of 310 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: challengers at the state House and state Senate level that 311 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: they won't touch anything. 312 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: Okay, So Governor Brown's spokesperson said that Governor Braun is 313 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: passionate about efficiency at all levels of government. Oh, sure, 314 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: which would include this. Now, let's look at some of 315 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: the numbers. Right. One of the things that townships handle 316 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: is poor relief. And last year, twenty million dollars was 317 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: spent on trustee and board salaries. Three quarters of townships 318 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 2: spent more on sale salaries than they did on assistance. 319 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: One in seven townships gave no assistance at all. 320 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: There is not a single service that the township provides 321 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: that could not be provided through another unit or layer 322 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: of already existing government, like you know you think about. 323 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: So let's take the major ones, right. Police, Well, if 324 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: you live in an unincorporated area the county, there is 325 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: no township police department. The county sheriff provides that service 326 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: to you. That's going to exist whether there is a 327 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: township or not. The big one, the mega expense with 328 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: townships are these either fire territories or township fire departments. 329 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: There is no reason for the most part that an 330 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: existing municipality cannot provide service to these areas. Now they're 331 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: gonna make the argument, well, we can get there one, 332 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, faster than they could. Yeah, theoretically, if you 333 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: put you know, a township fire department at a mass 334 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: have cost right in the middle of a township. Probably true, 335 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: But the same argo could hold for if you put 336 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: a policeman on every corner, you'd be able to reduce crime. 337 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 3: We don't do that. 338 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: Why because the cost is astronomical. At some point you 339 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: have to like get past the public safety boogeyman thing 340 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: and go, yeah, okay, in this very rural area where 341 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: there are very few runs, could you maybe get there 342 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: one or two minutes faster? Probably? But at what cost 343 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: are we subsidizing that? And why are we making people 344 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: pay for that based on the low volume of runs 345 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: that actually take place. It's no different than any other 346 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: business or thing government should be doing. It's a cost 347 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: benefit analysis. The other things they do, they trim the cemeteries, 348 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: the public cemeteries. You tell me, like cities and towns 349 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: couldn't couldn't do couldn't do that. 350 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: They need removal, yeah, weed removal. 351 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: They don't do snow plows. Snowplows done by the county. 352 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: They don't. I mean the poor relief. You're going to 353 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: tell me the town or county, you know, the clerk 354 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: treasurer that couldn't be administered by an already existing body. 355 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: I mean, there is no reason in twenty twenty five, 356 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: like in eighteen sixty two, when people traveled by horse 357 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: and it was a big deal to go from you know, 358 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: to get into town. Sure you could see why you'd 359 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: need that, could see why you might need someone local 360 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: to be there. There is no reason for this stuff 361 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: to exist in twenty twenty five other than to empower 362 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: this training ground, this breeding ground for our next batch 363 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: of politicians. 364 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 3: And that's what this is. 365 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: It's taxpayers subsidizing the training and breeding ground for the 366 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: next batch of politicians. 367 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 2: OTJT on the job training. Okay, well, here's something that 368 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: you and Andrew Ireland, Representative Ireland agree on. Because he 369 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 2: called township governance an absolute waste of taxpayer money, what's 370 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 2: he gonna. 371 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: Do about it? 372 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: He's good at talking, isn't he. Hey, we should do 373 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: something about property taxes. That bill wasn't very good. You 374 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: asked him. You got to bring something up in the session. Nah, 375 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm sick of her and Andrew iron and talk. Hey, hey, no, no, no, 376 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: he's going to talk about those signs. How excited he 377 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,959 Speaker 1: is about the signs that are going to be changed. Oh, 378 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 1: we'll go back to the crossroads of America. What are 379 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: you gonna about the id C? Andrews did say. 380 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 2: He was going to propose some bills this upcoming session. 381 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: Maybe this is one of them. 382 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 3: What are you gonna do about the IDC? 383 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: And he hasn't said a word that I've seen publicly 384 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: about the IDC audit that exposed hundreds of millions of 385 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 1: dollars of corruption and conflicts of interest. I'm sick of 386 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: seeing and hearing Andrew Ireland flap his gums. 387 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 3: What is he going to do about it? Okay, how 388 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 3: about Debbie driscoll. 389 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 2: She's the Indiana Township Association president and she supports mergers 390 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: over elimination. Is that a possibility? 391 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: Well, that's fine. That may be a better solution, but 392 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: there all just should be. Should be mergers of school districts. 393 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: You know, I get that. You know, fifty years ago 394 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: you took great pride in your community and hey, we 395 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: were the tigers and you were the lions, and those 396 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: guys were over there the bears, and we all wore 397 00:19:55,480 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: different colors. But like that just isn't financially fee anymore. 398 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 2: And so some of them have tried it and they're 399 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 2: not having success. I'll give you an example. The mayor 400 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: of Lebnon, Matt Gentry. He attempted a merger to improve 401 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 2: their fire service, but the trustees rejected it. Hawk Set's 402 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 2: been talking about it. He hasn't had any success either, 403 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: right on both sides. 404 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: And where does what's the reoccurring theme with that casey? 405 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: It's always it's always the fire is always the issue, 406 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: right because and look, there are many many fine people, 407 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: outstanding people, wonderful, amazing people who choose a life of 408 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: public service in the area of fire protection and ems. 409 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: And those people are wonderful and they'd run through a 410 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: burning building to save you without a moment's notice. 411 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 3: I'm not talking about the rank and file. 412 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: I am talking about the political apparatus of. 413 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: Fire territories, these fire unions. 414 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: And I'm talking about just things about pay, but the 415 00:20:53,960 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: political apparatus of fire unions across the state has done 416 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: immense damage to local government. Fighting for and going for 417 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: things that actually haven't made people's lives better, hasn't bettered 418 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: the populace as a whole, And until you're willing to. 419 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: Break that comes at a great expense. 420 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And this came out in the Senate Bill one 421 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: hearings about how much fire territories are now costing and 422 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: the creation of these fire territories are now costing the taxpayer, 423 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: and without much tangible benefit these fire territories because then 424 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: they get taxing authority. And that's what I'm talking about, Jared. 425 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: We're gonna run a little long here and then we'll 426 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: get to you. This is very important, and I would 427 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: never disrupt the docile, vibrant tones of Jarrett Lewis giving 428 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: the news, but it's very important. 429 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: So this is exactly what I'm talking about. 430 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: So many people now have their fire protection done by 431 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: what they call fire territory, in which a community communities, 432 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: plural townships and towns are partnering together to one fire service. 433 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: On the surface, that might seem like it's great, Oh yeah, well, 434 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: that makes sense, everybody's working together. But what it actually 435 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: does is creates an unaccountable monstrosity because the fire territory 436 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: gets taxing authority, and that taxing authority is mostly overseen 437 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: by an appointed board made up of the trustees and 438 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: usually a representative of the town or city council, who 439 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: then become beholden to fear of the fire department or 440 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: the fire territory employees politically working against them to unelect 441 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: them unless you do what they want. And so you 442 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: get a whole bunch of stuff that isn't about just 443 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: about taking care of the firefighters and the EMT workers. 444 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: It's about bright shiny objects, it's about monstrosities. It's about 445 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: things that are totally inefficient for the taxpayers. And so 446 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: that is a great example of what I'm talking about. 447 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: These fire territories are a cancer and a plague on 448 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: the taxpayers. You could have just the same service if municipalities, 449 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: for the most part it had in your local agreements 450 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: with townships to provide fire service. So anyway, all that 451 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: being said, we just huffed and puffed. Nothing's ever going 452 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: to change were any better. We're never going to do 453 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: the dinnything with the townships. 454 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 3: What you did do. 455 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 2: By going a little long here in this segment is 456 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: proving that Indiana is over three thousand units of government 457 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: are complex and very confusing to the tax fair. 458 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: And now Jarrett Lewis, who is neither complex nor confusing, 459 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: will give us the news. 460 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: Next, it's Kendall and Casey on ninety three WIBC. 461 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 3: All right, what's going on the auto pen? 462 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: The auto pen? 463 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 3: You mean the Biden presidency. 464 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: Well, there's a big growing movement among Republicans that are 465 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: trying to invalidate some of Joe Biden's pardons, including many 466 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 2: that were signed via auto pen. 467 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: Now just bring this full circle here. Republicans took control 468 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two of the House, which means they 469 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: had full control of the money for the final two 470 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: years of the Biden presidency. They had full investigative powers. 471 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: What they do with all that? Who in the Biden 472 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: administration got held to account for all this alleged erroneous 473 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: behavior on just variety of levels. I mean, who are 474 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: these these Biden by these untowards part of the Biden administration, 475 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: who they really got to the bottom of and made 476 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: pay a price? 477 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: Were they aware that it was happening at the time 478 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: when it was going on? 479 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 3: Who the Republicans, Well, they ran on it. 480 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they ran on We're going to get him remember, 481 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: don't you you were still you were here in twenty 482 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: two You remember they said they were going to get him? 483 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: Would they get what they do with the power. Can 484 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: you name me one person that's in prison now or 485 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: has been held to some high level of accountability because 486 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's not in prison. 487 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 3: No, no he's not, No, he's out. 488 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: Who what did the Republicans? Because I know this will 489 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: shock you, Casey, that they may not have fallen throughout 490 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: another campaign promise, But I don't think the Republicans did 491 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: what they told the American people they were going to do. 492 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: And now there's just Falci in jail. They're still whining 493 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: about it like daily. This is what our politicians do. 494 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: They have to have something to complain about, and if 495 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: they actually fix it, then they can't complain about it anymore. 496 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: And they can't they can't distract you from their horrible 497 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: governance if they don't have a boogeyman. And so that's 498 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 1: why they don't ever fix anything, because they must have 499 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: something to someone depends something on so that you won't 500 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: pay attention, or at least they can try to distract 501 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: you from paying attention to the horrible job they're actually doing. 502 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 2: Well, it was revealed that by day five of Joe 503 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 2: Biden's presidency, the auto pen had already begun being used. 504 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 8: The Oversight Project's research has found that the Biden White 505 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 8: House first deployed the autopen to a fixed President Biden's 506 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 8: signature Proclamation on day five of his administration, and that 507 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 8: there were at least three different autopen signatures in use 508 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 8: throughout rest President Biden's tenure. 509 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 3: In the White House. 510 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 8: In June twenty twenty two, the Biden White House began 511 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 8: deploying the autopen to sign clemency warrants and executive orders. 512 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 3: Autopen use skyrocketed from there. 513 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 8: We found that of the fifty one clemency warrants issued 514 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 8: during the Biden presidency, over half thirty two in total 515 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 8: were signed with an autopen, and these include some of 516 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 8: the most controversial acts of clemency of the Biden presidency, 517 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 8: including death row commutations and the preemptive pardons of members 518 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 8: of the Biden family, doctor Anthony Fauci, General Mark Milly, 519 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 8: and more, that were issued in the final days of 520 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 8: the Biden presidency. 521 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 3: We reviewed President Biden's schedule. 522 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 8: In his publicly available media and were unable to find 523 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 8: any record of President Biden's personally approving these actions, such 524 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 8: as a statement issued by the President himself to reporters. 525 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: Now, he said in a New York Times interview that 526 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 2: he personalized, personally authorized all of the pardons and the 527 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 2: use of the auto pen and he did that for efficiency. 528 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: Well, here's here's the problem. Multiple presidents, including Trump, have 529 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: used an autopen. Obama did it. Nobody said anything. Trump 530 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: did it, Nobody said anything. Now, I don't think Trump 531 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: used it with near the frequency that our most recent 532 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: president used it with. But either you got to ban 533 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: it or it's okay. And if it's okay, then you're 534 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: going to have this sort of stuff that's going to occur. 535 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: And my one coming back to all this is, so, 536 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: what are you telling us? Biden was a delusional old 537 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: man who didn't know what was going on. 538 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 2: He was laying on the beach, and now that they're 539 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 2: questioning it, somebody whispered in his ear and say. 540 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 3: Yet, just say you approve that? Well, right, why I 541 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 3: approve that. 542 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: You're the president of the United States. You should not 543 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: be able to sign a legally binding document with an 544 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: autopen like this is not that hard. Whether it's Trump 545 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: or Obama or Biden or any future president, Like, why 546 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: is this so hard? 547 00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 3: I didn't even know it was a thing. 548 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: I would think, surely the president has to sign legislation, 549 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: but like Obama signed whole bunches like actual legislation. 550 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 3: With the auto been. 551 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: Whether we agree with Obama or not, I think we 552 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: all know he has his faculties about him, like he 553 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: knew where he was and what he was doing. So 554 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 1: kind of quiet on Trump doing it. H no screaming 555 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: about Trump doing it. Of course people were taking advantage 556 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: of Biden. Of course they were just the bunch of 557 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: people who weren't elected were running the country. But the 558 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: Republicans up known this since Biden was still in the 559 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: White House, and did nothing about it. 560 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: So the Attorney General, Pam Bondi said that she is well. 561 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: She confirmed that the DOJ is investigating it. So remember 562 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: when Peter Doocey went through all of Joe Biden's signed documents, 563 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: he said he only found one that looked like it 564 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 2: was handwritten. 565 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 6: Peter Doocy here outside the West Wing of the White House. 566 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,479 Speaker 6: And there's rarely a good reason to bring a prop 567 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 6: to a White House briefing. But this afternoon, after spending 568 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 6: a couple hours going through Justice dot gov with. 569 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 3: A color printer. 570 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 6: I had an idea. 571 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 3: There is one that looks different. It looks authentic. 572 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 6: In fact, if you look at the last name, it 573 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 6: almost looks like the president was having a hard time 574 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 6: spelling his last name. 575 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 7: There very interesting props if you want to bring them 576 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 7: to my office later so I can take it closer. 577 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 6: Look, Joe Biden was the president. He signed so many 578 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 6: different things. Why was the one thing he signed the 579 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 6: day before he left so messy? 580 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 2: Okay, So what they're saying the constitution states he shall 581 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against 582 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 2: the United States, except in the case of impeachment, and 583 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 2: that there's no actual requirement for physical signatures or autopen restrictions. 584 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 3: Nothing's going to happen. 585 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Whoopy Goldberg says the same thing, Rob. 586 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of crazy, you know. I kind 587 00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: of agree with him. 588 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 9: If you instead of investigating a man who is no 589 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 9: longer in office, I would like y'all to find out 590 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 9: why the US military is striking vessels without. 591 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 3: Verifying who's in them. 592 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, I want the government shut down to figure out 593 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 9: what's going on, because it's getting ready to be the 594 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 9: longest one in history. It's not benefits are about to 595 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 9: run out, soybean farmers in financial crisis, and of course 596 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 9: there is the unreleased Epstein files. 597 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, she says, I want the government shut down to 598 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: figure out what's going on. Okay, that doesn't make a 599 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: whole lot of sense. 600 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 3: Your birthday, dear valves. 601 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,719 Speaker 2: And she said, I'm talking about soybeans, and I know 602 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: Trump just made that deal with China. Do you think 603 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 2: that Whoopy Goldberg has ever thought of soybean farmers before 604 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: in her life? 605 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: Casey, no, are you calling her honesty and integrity into question? 606 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 3: I am? I am? 607 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: Actually, Hey, you know what, it's a big day here, WYBC. 608 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: It's a birthday. Someone's having a birthday. Should you talking 609 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: about it next? 610 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, it's Kennel and Casey on ninety three WYBC. 611 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,719 Speaker 5: Well, look, my wife has a rule in our family 612 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 5: on somebody's birthday is saying happy birthday. You ready by 613 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 5: birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, Well, 614 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 5: happy birthday to you. 615 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: You know, of all the things we have done on 616 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: this radio show in four years, Casey, I think getting 617 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: velvet to win the Hammer and Nigel Biden madness. I 618 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: think that's our greatest accomplishment. 619 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: Her crowning glory. 620 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: It's the Kennel and CAZy Show. I'm Rob, that's Casey. 621 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: It's birthdays. It's a it's a birthday for someone something 622 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: very important to us. 623 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, do things celebrate birthday as well? This one does. Yes, 624 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 2: WIBC celebrating it's eighty seventh anniversary today and. 625 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: Of course wib for depending on how long you have 626 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: been listening to us known for many many years on 627 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: ten seventy on your radio dial. Generations grew up listening 628 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: to WIBC on ten seventy, which, by the way, did 629 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: not get over to ten seventy till nineteen forty one. 630 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: And it was a daytime only station when it went 631 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: on the air in nineteen thirty eight. October of nineteen 632 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: thirty eight. 633 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 2: It originally launched what on ten fifty with one thousand 634 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: watts and then what Yeah Wild, and then at one 635 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 2: point in the evening it just goes off the air 636 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: right until it became a full time station. 637 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: Well, and you know, WIBC is for generations now literally 638 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: been an institution in this city. It's taken on many 639 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: different forms. It's had many different, you know, for lack 640 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: of better term, types of programming, but for the most part, 641 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: it is always been city and area focused, providing local 642 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: radio content better than any other radio station to the 643 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: people of Central Indiana. 644 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 2: At one point it hosted quiz shows and live music. 645 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: Also just different discussions became what full time talk in 646 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 2: the late sixties. Is that Is that true? 647 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: It's fascinating because for Hoo's your lifers, or for Central 648 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: Indiana lifers, like I said, WIBC is an institution. And 649 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, I remember as. 650 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 3: A kid. 651 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: Listening to WIBC and hearing people like Terry Stacy and 652 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: Jeff Pigeon and John Gillis and Fred Heckman and Dave Wilson, 653 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: and you know, just an army of other people who 654 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: have become legendary names in this city, and thinking like 655 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: there was a mystique with WIBC, the sounders, the voices, 656 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: the things they covered, the way they covered them. And 657 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, when I was growing up, my ambition wasn't 658 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: to be some great nationally known radio broadcaster. My dream 659 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: was to be a great broadcaster on WIBC. Because WIBC 660 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 1: always just seemed like the place where the action always 661 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: was whatever the thing that was going on, And I thought, 662 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: wouldn't that be cool to get up and go to 663 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: work every day and be involved and talking about and 664 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: making a difference in your community. Like everything you talk about, 665 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: everything you say, everything you do, some person has some 666 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: recognition of the place or the people or the things 667 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: that you're talking about, and some connection and some sort 668 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: of vested interest in that. 669 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 3: And for most of. 670 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: Its life, WIBC has been that to the community, talking 671 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: about things and places and people that. 672 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 3: Those hearing the sound of your voice care about. 673 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 2: Another piece of radio history, the WIBC sign on coincided 674 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: with probably the most famous radio broadcast of all time, 675 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: the Orson Wells. The War of the World, which scared 676 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: a lot of people, did not air on WIBC, but 677 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 2: they happened on the same exact day, October thirtieth, nineteen 678 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 2: thirty eight. 679 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: And I believe it aired The War of the World 680 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: as on what we now know is WNDE was where 681 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: that aired. Isn't it wild to that that was eighty 682 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: seven years ago and we are still paying the price 683 00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: for that or the world's broadcast by regulations and rules 684 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: through the FCC that you don't make a lot of 685 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: sense right and have been somewhat harmful to our ability 686 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 1: to compete with other forms of media that have come 687 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: on in the last eighty seven years. But I say 688 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: this to our people. I say it all the time. 689 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: You the audience have allowed us to live or me, 690 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: have allowed me to live out my dream of being 691 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: on this radio station. Your support has allowed that to continue. 692 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 1: And for all the people who made it possible for 693 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: me to be here, whether it's Jeff Smollen or the 694 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: David Wood or now in our new owners here at 695 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: Urban one, thank you for letting me be a part 696 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: of this for however much longer it lasts. It's been 697 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: a real honor and a real treat to get to 698 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: be here, Because how many people Casey think about can 699 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: honestly say I got to live my dream. 700 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 3: From when I was a little kid. 701 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, No, you're correct, it's been. It's a real 702 00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 2: honor and it's a privilege to broadcast on this radio station. 703 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: And of course we have to think and acknowledge all 704 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 2: of the hosts that came before who elevated it and 705 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 2: gave it its stirling reputation and made it what it is, 706 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 2: and obviously the listeners are the biggest part of all 707 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 2: of that. 708 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: If I leave here tomorrow, would you still remember me? 709 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 2: We thank you for the opportunity to do this, and 710 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: we hope to continue our service. Kevin, can you find 711 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 2: that song please? 712 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 3: I gotta see. 713 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 2: Oh no, that's how you're honoring wybc's eighty seventh anniversary 714 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 2: with that. I think I like Joe Biden's ever. 715 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 3: Oh there we go. 716 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 2: Uh huh, let's listen to that one instead. 717 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 3: It is kind only Casey. It's ninety three w I 718 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 3: B C SH