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Speaker 1: And I'm not one that tries to, you know, scream

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Speaker 1: And I'm not a stolen cooing, like I keep telling

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Speaker 1: a massive Everything's gonna be a lot's going on in

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hi, Rob, Great to be here, Great.

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Speaker 1: To be with you. Okay, So there was this big

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Speaker 3: That's right, you.

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Speaker 1: Control the money for the road, so we all need

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Speaker 1: to be very nice to you. You had this big

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Speaker 1: why is there such a lack of resources for roads

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well it was interesting. So apparently for the last

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Speaker 3: Since the hearing, they've raised the number. Yeah, and today at.

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Speaker 6: Least that that have been canceled or scaled back or postponed.

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Speaker 6: And that's a concern. These are projects that have been

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Speaker 6: And those projects are not going to happen now. But

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about You may have heard we're

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Speaker 3: I haven't actually yet. I'm glad you are.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the mid States Corridor, Yes, and that is the

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so what's the So did they give you an explanation?

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Speaker 1: Because even Jim Pressell, this is not a Democrat.

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Speaker 3: Very much not not partisan at all.

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Speaker 1: He's a Republican, he's the head of transportation, and even he,

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Speaker 1: We're spending billions on this road that is wildly unpopular

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Speaker 6: And kudos to Chairman Pressel for bringing this up in committee.

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Speaker 6: It was frankly news to me. And I think the

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Speaker 1: So they didn't have an answer for you on why

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Speaker 3: So no answer, no answer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well that's that's government and action right there. Now.

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Speaker 1: Can you guys demand answers? Can you pound a fist?

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Speaker 6: Actually I sent two letters to the Department's Transportation this week.

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Speaker 1: Were they sternly worded, I would.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let's get into that, because it's now come

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Speaker 1: once was. But last year, when they passed this bill,

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Speaker 1: which essentially gave the governor unlimited ability to do the tolling,

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Speaker 1: they said, oh, this is years in the making. This

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Speaker 1: It's been less than a year and they're already asking

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Speaker 3: Well, that's true.

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Speaker 6: And here's what I'll say again, this is my request

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Speaker 6: That's only part of the story. I want to know

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Speaker 6: I haven't heard a good reason to keep it private.

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Speaker 6: And you know, this is a public request between one

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Speaker 6: And certainly months after they've been getting many requests to

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Speaker 3: That's a problem.

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Speaker 1: State Representative Kerrie Hamilton is our guest. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: like one of the issues I have with all of this,

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Speaker 1: and we were talking about this, well, whatever it's been

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Speaker 1: we're out of revenue of money. Do you know, like,

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Speaker 6: Well, let me start with this, So the idea of tolling,

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Speaker 1: Because that's what they said with the gas texts, Oh

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Speaker 6: And that didn't happen, right right, So I do think

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Speaker 6: I don't know if this a level of details in

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Speaker 6: keeping all tolling away from Indianapolis several miles outside of

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Speaker 6: it tiered so that the out of state vehicles pay

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Speaker 6: tiered system certainly seems more fair to me, like like an.

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Speaker 1: Easy pass right like these other states have totally.

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Speaker 1: I live in indian I show my whatever, and then

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Speaker 1: I scanoodle on theory, and you pay.

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Speaker 3: A lot less than those out of stite trucks that

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Speaker 3: are tearing up our road.

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, so would this well, you don't know, right,

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Speaker 1: They're not telling you how much they're looking at Like.

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Speaker 3: Is it a core idea? Rob, I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: Can you call the governor and just go what the

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Speaker 1: hell are you doing? Like do you have the ability

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Speaker 1: to do that? Like as a rank and file state rep.

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Speaker 3: I mean I do. But here's what I'm going to do.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to wait a few days and hope to

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Speaker 6: hear back from end DOT and go from there, Okay.

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Speaker 1: A couple of minutes left with you. This is a

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Speaker 1: big year I think for you guys, the Democrats, because

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Speaker 1: Republicans are pretty unpopular. The redistricting thing was very unpopular.

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Speaker 1: You've got seemingly maybe the person will be at the

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Speaker 1: top of your ticket who's going to raise a good

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Speaker 1: jillion dollars and has name ID like this is you

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Speaker 1: guys got to kind of get it together right and

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Speaker 1: start winning some of these seats, or you might as

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Speaker 1: well just fold it up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think we are. I think we're volding

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Speaker 3: up or get it together.

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, we've got it together round. You're ready

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Speaker 6: for big wins in November twenty six.

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Speaker 1: How do you do that? Though? How do you message that? Right?

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Speaker 1: And this is the thing I told Bobai when he

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Speaker 1: was in here, as I said, look, you're fine, right.

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Speaker 1: You come off as a very likable, normal guy, your

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Speaker 1: very mainstream. You said things like voter Ida is going

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Speaker 1: to stay. But you got some people and I kind

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Speaker 1: of think you're the same way. You got people in

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Speaker 1: your party though that get a lot of attention that

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Speaker 1: the average person goes, oh no, thank you, right. I

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Speaker 1: don't like the Republicans, but no, thank you. How do you,

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Speaker 1: as Democrats relay a message that will resonate with the

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Speaker 1: people of Indiana. What's the strategy to do that this year?

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Speaker 6: Well, I'll speak on behalf of House Democrats and I

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Speaker 6: do think this this plays out throughout the party. We

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Speaker 6: have been focused on affordability for who's yours and we

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Speaker 6: will continue to focus on affordability for who's yours. I'll

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Speaker 6: share you know, the last couple of years, when you've

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Speaker 6: heard about you know, socially divisive issues coming before the

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Speaker 6: legislature that get people fired up on both sides extreme

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Speaker 6: of either party, those didn't come forward by the Democrats.

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Speaker 6: We did not put those bills forward. Our colleagues across

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Speaker 6: the aisle did. We have been focused and continue to

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Speaker 6: focus on affordability for who's your families.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys need to need to get some wins,

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Speaker 1: because I think the bad behavior by the Republicans is

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Speaker 1: they don't fear losing to you guys, so we're all counting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're well, you know what.

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Speaker 6: Just to wrap up my thought there, we're focused on

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Speaker 6: affordability for families and that's what people are asking us

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Speaker 6: to focus on. That's why I think we're gonna have

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Speaker 6: big wins in November. Our policy ideas are clear and

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Speaker 6: will deliver relief for families. Hoo's yours know that, and

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Speaker 6: they're paying attention.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you guys can't be Diego Morales's, well, we

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Speaker 1: all need you to be Diego Morales. All right, Kerry Hamilton,

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Speaker 1: and you gotta say representative, thank you, thanks Rob. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's Kennlly Casey Show ninety three WIBC. Conan O'Brien is

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Speaker 1: spot on about people not being funny anymore in America

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Speaker 1: and how politics has really ruined comedy. It's Kettle a

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Speaker 1: Casey Show, ninety three w IBC. I'm rob Ethan Hatcher

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Speaker 1: in for Casey today. Now I should should point out,

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Speaker 1: like there wasn't some emergency nine one one called Rob's

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Speaker 1: ruining the show. You must show up because you were

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Speaker 1: not here for the first really, you know, three segments

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Speaker 1: of the of the program today you were you were

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Speaker 1: doing your day job and lords. And we'll get to

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Speaker 1: that in a little bit because I'm fascinated about how

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Speaker 1: all of that actually works. But I wanted to play

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Speaker 1: this clip from Conan O'Brien. I think this was the

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Speaker 1: Bill Maher podcast that he was on. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that for sure, but and again with the internet, right,

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Speaker 1: like things go through the loop. I think this is

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Speaker 1: a fairly recent clip. It doesn't matter, though, because it's

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Speaker 1: so spot on whether it was a week ago or

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Speaker 1: a month ago or a day ago or whatever. It's

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Speaker 1: so spot on. It so Conan O'Brien obviously late night

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Speaker 1: talk show hosts. He was a writer on The Simpsons

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Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live. I mean, just a just a legendary

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Speaker 1: figure in comedy. And he's talking about out how comedians

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Speaker 1: have stopped being funny because they're obsessed with hating Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: I think some.

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Speaker 7: Comics go the route of I'm going to just say

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Speaker 7: F Trump every all the time, or that's their comedy.

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Speaker 7: And I think, well, now a little bit, you're being

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Speaker 7: co opted because you're so angry.

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Speaker 1: You've been lulled.

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Speaker 7: It's like a siren leading you into the rocks.

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Speaker 1: You've been lulled.

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Speaker 7: Into just saying Trump, F Trump, F Trump. Screw this guy,

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Speaker 7: you know, And I think you've now put down your

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Speaker 7: best weapon, which is being funny, and you've exchanged it

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Speaker 7: for anger and that person or any person like that

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Speaker 7: would say, well, things are too serious now, I don't

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Speaker 7: need to be funny, And I think, well, if you're

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Speaker 7: a comedian, you always need.

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Speaker 1: To be funny.

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Speaker 7: You just have to find a way, and you just

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Speaker 7: have to find a way to channel that anger into

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Speaker 7: a way that is because good art will always be

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Speaker 7: great weapon, will always be a perfect weapon against power.

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Speaker 7: But if you're just screaming and you're just angry, you've

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Speaker 7: lost your best tool in the toolbox.

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Speaker 1: He's right, and both sides do this. Like when comedians

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Speaker 1: go after this, I always think about those with South

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Speaker 1: Park because they're equal opportunity offenders. The right for years

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Speaker 1: thought South Park was the funniest thing ever because the

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Speaker 1: Democrats were in power, and this is hilarious. They're making

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Speaker 1: fun of all of these people because it was. But

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Speaker 1: now that it's come towards Trump at Christy Noman then

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Speaker 1: for a while Charlie Kirk Before's assassination, Well now it

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Speaker 1: isn't funny. No, it's all funny because almost all these

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Speaker 1: people are wholly ridiculous and deserve to be made fun of.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's funny that you mentioned south Park in particular,

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Speaker 8: because that's exactly the example that I was going to use,

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Speaker 8: except that I think the quality of South Park has

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Speaker 8: actually somewhat declined because because the humor seems unequal. And yes,

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Speaker 8: they did go after Democrats, and yes that was hilarious,

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Speaker 8: and yes, some of the jokes that they've told about

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Speaker 8: Donald Trump have been equally funny. But it is the

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Speaker 8: hyper focus on Donald Trump that recent episodes have taken

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Speaker 8: where they can't let it go, they can't give it

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Speaker 8: a break, they can't give the jokes some breathing room.

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Speaker 8: Then I think it becomes a little bit exasperating and overwhelming.

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Speaker 8: Compared to when they did tell jokes about Democrats, it

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Speaker 8: wasn't every single episode, it wasn't every single joke. They

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Speaker 8: would switch to different narratives, different storylines, different targets for

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Speaker 8: their humor, and that's what kept the ball rolling, and

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Speaker 8: that's what kept the humor funny.

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Speaker 1: Look, media is a business at the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: What we do here is a business. Now, you I

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Speaker 1: we have a love for this business, but our employers

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Speaker 1: don't leave us here because we have a love for

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Speaker 1: this business. They've left me here for nine years despite

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Speaker 1: what a pain in the ass I am for them,

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Speaker 1: because we produce ratings right, and they use those ratings

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Speaker 1: to make money. And to me, our show is different

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Speaker 1: than the other shows because we openly say or we

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Speaker 1: hate the Republicans, right, like we hate all all of

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Speaker 1: these people equally. Now Ammer and Nigel do too, but

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Speaker 1: they just don't. They're not in as in the political

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Speaker 1: of other fun stuff. They're an afternoon show. It makes sense, right,

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Speaker 1: But I've always looked at it as and I think

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Speaker 1: the reason we're so popular is because we don't alienate

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Speaker 1: as many people from listening. Because people who hate me

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Speaker 1: you are gonna listen anyway. But we bring people in,

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Speaker 1: like we have Democrats on this show all the time.

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Speaker 1: To me, it's like it's a business. Why would you

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Speaker 1: do now? A lot of people have perceptions or preconceived

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Speaker 1: notions or whatever, they're not going to listen. But I

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Speaker 1: think we get more people from across the spectrum because

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Speaker 1: we have more voices on here. And go back to

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Speaker 1: what you're saying in comedy or television with South Park

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Speaker 1: or whatever it is. If you're an equal opportunity offender,

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Speaker 1: I think you're can attract everyone versus if you just

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Speaker 1: take a one sided Trump sucks or Trump's off or

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Speaker 1: whatever approach that people aren't going to go see or

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Speaker 1: act if they don't agree with you politically. Somebody who

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Speaker 1: has really embodied that spirit, I think, and part of

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Speaker 1: the reason why he got brought back after many years

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Speaker 1: of being sidelined by much less talented host is John

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Speaker 1: Stewart doing the Daily Show because he is. He is

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Speaker 1: what we were talking about this the other day on

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Speaker 1: the show, an honest broker, and I think people are

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Speaker 1: willing to give you a little bit more slack if

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Speaker 1: they believe you to be an honest broker of information.

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Speaker 1: And John Stewart, although yes he's absolutely left wing leaning,

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Speaker 1: he is not afraid to go after ridiculous Democrats and

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Speaker 1: hold them to account in the same way that this show,

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Speaker 1: the Kendall and Casey Show, is unafraid to hold dishonest

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Speaker 1: Republicans to account. And I think that that attracts audiences,

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Speaker 1: loyalty and listeners. Okay, everybody's got to stick around for

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Speaker 1: this next segment. So Nick and Nathan Roberts, they are

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Speaker 1: twenty five year old identical twins. Nick is a Democrat

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Speaker 1: on this Indianapolis City County Council Nathan is one of

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Speaker 1: the up and coming leaders of the conservative movement here

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Speaker 1: in Central Indiana. He's founded a group called Save Heritage Indiana,

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Speaker 1: which is dedicated to rooting out a legal immigration. They're

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Speaker 1: two twins. They couldn't possibly be more different politically. They're

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Speaker 1: It's Killing Casey show coming up next. Nick and Nathan

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Speaker 1: robbers how he thread up the IBC