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Speaker 1: You were listening to the Best of the Fan morning

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Speaker 1: show on ninety three five and one oh seven.

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Speaker 2: Five the fan days of Macy's Day Parade, you were

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Speaker 2: listening to a fan morning show on sports Radio ninety

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Speaker 2: three five and one oh seven. Dude, I had no

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Speaker 2: idea that Macy's Day Parade had a lyric that was

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Speaker 2: that Green Day's Green Day. Yeah, unbelievable. Would you ever

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Speaker 2: do that? I no, I mean, I get exposed quick.

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Speaker 2: I got no coordination. What the hell would I be

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Speaker 2: in the parade for?

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Speaker 3: Not like just going to watch it? Because my mom

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Speaker 3: is always like, oh, I would love to see no

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Speaker 3: chance the Macy's Day Parade. I would love to see

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Speaker 3: the ball drops.

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Speaker 2: A hug al Roker and you know, yeah, do that,

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Speaker 2: And that's what my mom would do.

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Speaker 4: I got my uncle, Ashley wants to do New Year's

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Speaker 4: a time scream no chance.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like, yes, I feel like like you're

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Speaker 3: gonna walk two steps and bump into somebody.

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Speaker 2: My aunt uncle lived just north of New York City.

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Speaker 2: My uncle works downtown and my aunt did the New

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Speaker 2: Year's Eve ball drop one year and she just said.

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Speaker 6: It was horrific.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very much like, oh, this is really cool

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Speaker 3: to watch on TV.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Actually, do we have local people in the Macy's

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Speaker 2: State Parade? I feel like Mark, I feel like I

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Speaker 2: see the Avon band in that every year.

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Speaker 5: They might be there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm always impressed by the bands that just travel

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Speaker 4: from all over the place, Like we're in Chicago, went

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Speaker 4: to the Michigan's Avenue Parade lights over the weekend and

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Speaker 4: it was like an Alabama band and everything like them,

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Speaker 4: like what are you doing here? Like how do you

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Speaker 4: get the call for that? So it always blows my mind.

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Speaker 2: Seems like quite the ordeal, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 2: to travel all that way, James, you mentioned earlier in

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Speaker 2: the show Ashton Dulan out a month. It will be

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Speaker 2: George Odom getting the call up from the practice squad.

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Speaker 2: That is a former cult signed by the team last week,

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Speaker 2: thirty two year old. I don't think he'll do all

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Speaker 2: the Dulan duties. No, No, I think the return duties

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Speaker 2: that Dulan occasionally occupies. You know, you've got Anthony Gould,

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Speaker 2: You've got a mirror abdula that can do that. One

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Speaker 2: thing I did want to mention just with this Ashton

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Speaker 2: dooland news of him going on injured reserve for four weeks. James,

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Speaker 2: you can't afford an injury right now to number eleven

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Speaker 2: to number fourteen. You know, we haven't really talked about

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Speaker 2: this much, but Alec Pierce has had a concussion or two.

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Speaker 2: But Michael Pittman Junior and Alec Pierce have been incredibly

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Speaker 2: durable throughout their NFL careers. Knock on some wood there,

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Speaker 2: but with the trade of ad Mitchell, I say that

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Speaker 2: in all seriousness, and now Ashton Dulan going on injured

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Speaker 2: reserve for a month, like Lakwan Treadwell, I guess would

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Speaker 2: be next man up if you need an outside wide out.

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Speaker 2: So just something to keep in mind. I know the

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Speaker 2: dueling offensive duties aren't necessarily immense and quantity each week.

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Speaker 2: I still think they view him in a nice light

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Speaker 2: and he provides, you know, a great trustworthy option when

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Speaker 2: you do need to give those guys a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a breather there. But just something to point out.

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Speaker 2: If the Colts were practicing today, would you expect Daniel

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Speaker 3: That's a good question because Shane told me or no limitations,

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Speaker 3: But I would probably lean towards maybe not because of

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Speaker 3: the way his gate kind of looked later in the

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Speaker 3: game as the game wore on. And this is not

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Speaker 3: to say, oh my gosh, he was so limited against

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs that's why they lost.

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Speaker 2: No, that's not why they lost.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's worth noting, and I think it

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Speaker 3: was certainly something that we can't overlook, Kevin. So I'll

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Speaker 3: be very curious to see what the estimated injury report

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Speaker 3: says later this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again we see quarterbacks miss a Wednesday practice.

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Speaker 2: Seems like that and that wouldn't like freak me out

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Speaker 3: I would have to get to Thursday Friday for me

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Speaker 2: No, but just something again the Colts have will walk

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Speaker 2: through today and for Houston still need clearance, full clearance

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Speaker 2: for CJ. Stroud with concussion protocols. That'll be something to

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Speaker 2: just to monitor the rest that we get the expectation

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Speaker 2: of Stroud will clear that, but just something to keep

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Speaker 2: an eye on here. It's the number one scoring offense

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Speaker 2: that would be Houston. And it's the number two yardage

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Speaker 2: this is good on good when the Colts have the

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Speaker 2: ball coming up on Sunday, great on great. You can

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Speaker 2: make the argument for sure.

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Speaker 3: I think Danil Hunter is somebody you gotta keep an

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Speaker 3: eye on, same as Will Anderson. And this will be

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Speaker 3: a big test for the Colts because looking at some

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Speaker 3: of the numbers, and I'll put a story out this

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Speaker 3: morning basically saying the Colts at this present moment need

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Speaker 3: to look long and hard at the franchise tag when

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Speaker 3: it comes to Daniel Jones because the blitz numbers early

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Speaker 3: in the season were great. I mean he was top

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Speaker 3: five against the blitz and look at all the advanced

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Speaker 3: stats and data, he was arregably one of the best

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks in the league. Now he is mediocre to being

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Speaker 3: one of the worst quarterbacks in the league when it

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Speaker 3: comes to diagnosing blitzes and kind of beating blitzes. So

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Speaker 3: all that in mind, Houston I think will bring the blitz.

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Speaker 3: They're middle of the pack, I would say in blitz percentage,

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Speaker 3: which means the volume in which they blitz. But trust

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Speaker 3: and believe they will bring those wrinkles because I think

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Speaker 3: teams have kind of seen them blueprint to beat the Colts,

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Speaker 3: and I look back at it, Kevin. Through the first

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Speaker 3: eight games, the Colts are blitzed at the third highest

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Speaker 3: rate in the league, and again, Daniel was brilliant. He

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Speaker 3: was great against the blitz. Since then, over the last

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Speaker 3: three weeks or three games, four weeks, since Week nine,

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Speaker 3: they've still been blitzed the fifth highest rate, but he's

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Speaker 3: dropped a way down the list when it comes to

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Speaker 3: So I don't necessarily trust if this will be reversed

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Speaker 3: and he'll get back to that level of play. I

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Speaker 3: always knew he woul kind of come back on the earth.

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Speaker 3: Danil Jones would be a top five quarterback in the

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Speaker 3: NFL for the entire season. But the question is, can

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Speaker 3: you get back to being top ten ish versus you know,

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Speaker 2: I think it's paramount in terms of Sunday, You've got

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Speaker 2: to stay out of the third and obvious. I know

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Speaker 3: Obvious is good. I've heard it phrase like that.

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Speaker 2: That's good. I know it's a little bit kind of

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Speaker 2: like elementary to say, but you know, when you let

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Speaker 2: those two dudes, Anderson and Hunter get into the Usain

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Speaker 2: watch last Thursday night against Buffalo, and you know, because

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Speaker 2: then Shane stickinsc Gott decisions to make. Are you leaving

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Speaker 2: Tyler Warren into Chip, Jonathan Taylor into Chip? You know

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Speaker 2: how many guys are deployed out on a route tree

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Speaker 2: for Daniel Jones. But if you can win a little

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Speaker 2: bit more in second and seven. Oh, second and seven

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Speaker 2: turns into third and four, then maybe you don't let

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Speaker 2: those guys pin their ears back because I really think

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Speaker 2: for the Colts to lose, Anderson Junior and or Hunter

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Speaker 2: will have to have a wrecking moment like a like

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Speaker 2: that type TJ. Watt against the Colts type of play.

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Speaker 2: I really feel good about the Colts in this game

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Speaker 2: and less something like that does occur, which again, they're

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Speaker 2: totally capable of them. Right now, they rank third and

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Speaker 2: fourth in the league in sacks. I mean that's individually

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Speaker 2: those two and in this three game win streak with

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Speaker 2: one thing I think is definitely optimistic if you are,

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Speaker 2: you know, looking at it from a Colt's side of it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Colts have been outstanding at home this year.

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Speaker 2: Their numbers at home are i would say, noticeably better

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Speaker 2: that is due two opponents, but still, I mean, you

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Speaker 2: face Denver at home. If you look at just their

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Speaker 2: point totals at home, James thirty eight, thirty three, thirty one,

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Speaker 2: thirty one, and twenty nine and that was Denver. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that is every single game above twenty nine, and one

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Speaker 2: matter how you look at it, yards per Carrie, yards

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Speaker 2: per ten, passing, touchdowns, interceptions, they have been a much

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Speaker 2: better team at home this year. And obviously it's the

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Speaker 2: first home game in a month.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It was funny talking to Cole's defensive coordinator lou and

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Speaker 3: Arumo yesterday and he said he was in a meeting

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Speaker 3: and he was like, dude, I haven't been at home.

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Speaker 3: Feels like we have been home in a month. And

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Speaker 3: he looked at the calendar it has been a month.

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Speaker 3: But to me, This is a huge opportunity to kind

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Speaker 3: of write the ship of your season and show that

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Speaker 3: you do have the metal. And I don't mean metal

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Speaker 2: Chaine sticking just comes out with the metal crow bar

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Speaker 3: I mean that would help. I think I don't know

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Speaker 3: if it'd be legal as far as the games will go,

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Speaker 3: but I think this is a chance to flex your

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Speaker 3: bigger games. Because the question we have always had with

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Speaker 3: the Colts in years past, and I would say throughout

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Speaker 3: the Shane Styken era, is how many games have you

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Speaker 3: once you weren't supposed to? And I think this year

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Speaker 3: you've proven that to a degree because you started so

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Speaker 3: well and you knocked off a lot of good opponents,

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Speaker 3: and even the three losses this year or not, you're

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Speaker 3: not losing it like nobody's.

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Speaker 2: You haven't had a.

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Speaker 3: True I don't think stinker, you know outside of Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: But with that in mind, can you keep this from snowballing?

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Speaker 3: You've lost two of the last three, three to the

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Speaker 3: last four. Going into another division game sounds a lot

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Speaker 3: different than winning this game. Getting back on track. I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying anything that's like out of the ordinator, anything

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Speaker 3: that's extraordinary or you know, genius here, but this is

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Speaker 3: I think a chance to kind of stop the bleeding

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Speaker 3: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: It's like a scoring run in the NBA. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: know again, you don't want it snowball, you don't want

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Speaker 2: it to avalanche, you know. Yeah, are you taking the

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Speaker 2: rick car a lot of time out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I do think this can sli up into

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Speaker 3: your psyche a little bit where if you get another

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Speaker 3: closed game and you will under that pressure again, you're

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Speaker 3: going to be questioning. I don't care what anybody says.

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Speaker 3: It's confident. As you are an athlete, You're going to

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Speaker 3: have that human nature feeling of wait a second, are

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 2: And then you got two straight on the road after that, exactly,

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Speaker 2: and against two teams right now they're in the playoffs

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you play from ahead in December exactly.

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Speaker 3: So again I don't look at it from a scenario

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Speaker 2: Very impressive from Indiana last night down in Bloomington. Matt

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Speaker 2: It'll probably talk a little bit more bucket game football centric,

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Speaker 2: in Running Away from Kansas City, ID. They both haves.

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Speaker 2: They built some big leads. Can't say got back in

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Speaker 2: Indiana built it right back up. Mark. You found this

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Speaker 4: Zach Low and Bill Simmons on the Ringer podcast discussing

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Speaker 1: This could be the best single season tanking scenario since

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Speaker 1: the Spurs got Tim Duncan this team coming back, you mean,

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Speaker 1: But the Pacers are gonna the finals. Pacers are going

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Speaker 3: Bring me aj Debanza, bring me Darren Peterson.

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Speaker 2: Would you have a position or would it strictly be best

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Speaker 2: You can point to injuries for a lot of the Pacers,

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Speaker 2: I think the Pacers thought they could patchwork it together

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Speaker 2: Every day, you show up every day, you might you know,

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Speaker 2: you might be the first to pick up trash off

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Speaker 3: John Lanner and the YouTube chat Respect twenty nineteen National

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Speaker 2: But man, I just think of the three little pigs

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Speaker 4: I haven't heard Huff to describe a bad person in

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Speaker 4: That's amazing Illinois suburbs thing or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing for Monday, And if you really want to,

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Speaker 2: think that's been clear so far. He doesn't look like

438
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 2: that type of player for you right right, But is

439
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 2: he a guy that, you know whatever, can be a

440
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 2: top seven, top eight guy when the new iteration of

441
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,679
Speaker 2: the Pacers is here, So that will continue to be

442
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 2: a storyline for the Pacers. Reminder seven thirty tonight, Mark,

443
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 2: will you double check that? I want to say it

444
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,719
Speaker 2: is WTCHR simulcast for the Pacers. I think they had

445
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 2: that announcement earlier this week. We saw them have a

446
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 2: few games on WTHR last year, so for those that

447
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 2: don't have fan duels, just exactly. Denari Quinn jj over

448
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 2: on WHR, I want to say there's eleven such games

449
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 2: this year, and I want to say tonight is the

450
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 2: first of those. Seven thirty tip looking for their first

451
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,360
Speaker 2: road win of the year.

452
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Speaker 3: Got to get it done. I have a story about Toronto.

453
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 3: I think I told you all this before. Yes, today's

454
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Speaker 3: the first game. My thank you Mark on.

455
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 4: WHR w ALV is that like the Sister's Day. First

456
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 4: four are on w ALV. So it's November twenty sixth, tonight,

457
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,439
Speaker 4: December fifth at Chicago, December eighteenth against the Knicks, December

458
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 4: twentieth at New Orleans, and then the WTHR games start

459
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 4: on January sixteenth.

460
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 2: And they did this with a fever. You know a

461
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 2: few of these games on w ALV. Got the Turkey

462
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 2: hat man my chin I look like at nine chins

463
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Speaker 2: on the old YouTube chat and I tightened.

464
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Speaker 3: Oh, gobble gobble over there.

465
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Speaker 2: That's an understatement. You probably had his like Madden in

466
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 2: sweat right now. Yeah, it's got a very high. You know,

467
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 2: the feathers are great. You feel those things up there.

468
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 2: I wonder how long it's abing to make that. I

469
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 2: know it's quite impressive. There's nothing I could do less

470
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Speaker 2: than knit. You imagine if they're like Kevin, you're fired

471
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Speaker 2: from the radio station, Go be a knitter. Can you

472
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 2: imagine what? Hey, but what my art org would look like?

473
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Speaker 3: To feed my niece, Nelly, you better get to knitton.

474
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 3: I know that Maddie's gonna be telling you, like, hey,

475
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 3: hold on now, I'm not gonna be the only brain

476
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Speaker 3: winter in his household.

477
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Speaker 2: Nelly had three poops in thirteen minutes last night at

478
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Speaker 2: about four am, Like, how is that? Humanly?

479
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 3: Man?

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00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 2: A what's y'all feeding a laxatives? How could a human

481
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Speaker 2: that size produce that in such a short amount of time?

482
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Speaker 4: Three poops and thirteen that's has Rookie numbers Man talk

483
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 4: to me after like a trip to Taco bell or

484
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Speaker 4: something on a Saturday night.

485
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 2: And like marked, I think comparing himself to a half

486
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: he always said he has not only grown up, so

487
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 2: you might need the adult diaper permanently.

488
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Speaker 4: There's times when I've needed it. Oh man, I've done

489
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 4: those runs to the bathroom before I'm like, please, no

490
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Speaker 4: one be in.

491
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Speaker 2: There have to be a massacre.

492
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Speaker 3: Someone said, Nelly's a legend for that respect, respect greatness

493
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Speaker 3: when you see it, Okay, Kevin.

494
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, that's one way too interpret it. We'll talk

495
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Speaker 2: to Colt steven Holder. Coming up to the other side.

496
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Speaker 2: Butler's got a Friday after noon game over there at

497
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Speaker 2: Hinklefield House after their impressive we Hey, you want to

498
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 2: talk impressive right now? You look at the past week.

499
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: Purdue two non conference wins on a neutral floor, Butler

500
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Speaker 2: two non conference wins on a neutral floor. Indiana at

501
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: home last night, but they get a notable win. So

502
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 2: State of Indiana. Some nice wins here on the resume.

503
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Speaker 2: Shout out to the fighting Irish beating Rutgers yesterday, and

504
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 2: you see who they drew in the I don't even

505
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: know what place game they call in Vegas. Have you

506
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: seen this Vegas Tournament? How weird it is? I have not, actually,

507
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: so basically all these teams are just doing it to

508
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: get nil money. That's why they're playing the Vegas Tournament. No,

509
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 2: hardly anyone.

510
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: Don't they have another one like post He's the term

511
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Speaker 3: of the Crown or something like that.

512
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is Layers era festival. Yeah, I think it

513
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: is similar. So notre name had two games Kansas and

514
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: Rutgers they knew about. But the third game you were

515
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: to play wasn't garrin what. You didn't know who your

516
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 2: opponent was or who win the game would be played.

517
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Speaker 2: And you know, I'm sitting there after the third poop

518
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, all right, I can't fall back to sleep.

519
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: Let me scroll see who Notre Dame plays today. They've

520
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: got Houston at three point thirty today. I'm like, what,

521
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 2: how in the world do they get the number three

522
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: team in the nation. What are we doing here? Can

523
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: buckle up? It's time to get playing on Syracuse football

524
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 2: on the hardwood here and see if we can try

525
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 2: and go to in one in Vegas.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 3: I'll still say, Jeremiah level on the hardwood over those

528
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 3: what I just saw from that team. Also from Jordan

529
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Speaker 3: Chewing our YouTube chat Mark just called Kevin's babies poop

530
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Speaker 3: game huff.

531
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, step it up, Nelly.

532
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Speaker 3: That's like a mad live right, that's a great mad lift.

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Speaker 2: People from Indy, is was huff a derogatory you know,

534
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Speaker 2: playground term? I thought it was at Midwest thing.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's just an Illinois But I don't remember people

536
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Speaker 4: saying that on the basketball court during.

537
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Speaker 2: If I got called huff, that would hurt the spirit.

538
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Speaker 2: I know, go take a lap. You're huff like man,

539
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: but a right chest, poor j huff. We'll talk all

540
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Speaker 2: other side. Stephen Holder joins us next.

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Speaker 6: All right, eight.

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Speaker 2: O'clock here on Thanksgiving Eve. We've got a loaded one

543
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Speaker 2: for you, Thad Model, I canna join us, coming up

544
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: eight thirty. Was talk some bucket game with Matt Weaver

545
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 2: from the EU side of it at nine to thirty.

546
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: One of the busiest and frankly all year long, but

547
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Speaker 2: especially this week. The great great Greg straw Well join

548
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: us coming up at nine thirty. But it's a big

549
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: one inside of Lukasoil Stadium on Sunday afternoon. To talk

550
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: more about that. Let's head of the Palost Sickers hotline

551
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: right now from ESPN. He is Steven Holder. Steven Happy

552
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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Eve to you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, saying to you guys and shout out to Mark

554
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 5: for the mid career Kanye West right there when he

555
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Speaker 5: was like, you know, kind of sort of sort of

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Speaker 5: kind of normal.

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Speaker 3: I wish we could go back to that as kind

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Speaker 3: of I know, it was a great, good call, Stephen.

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Speaker 2: I think the description of sort of kind of normal

560
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Speaker 2: had me laughing out loud. There Stephen holding Stephen were we.

561
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Speaker 5: Were starting to see signs. We were starting to see

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Speaker 5: signs at that stage. But go ahead, Stephen.

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Speaker 2: It's funny you use that to describe Kanye West, because

564
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Speaker 2: I feel like, sort of kind of I don't know

565
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Speaker 2: what is up with the Daniel Jones injury situation. Is

566
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Speaker 2: that how you would describe this fibula thing.

567
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think it's the end of the world,

568
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 5: but I don't think it's nothing. You know, I think

569
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 5: when you look at it's not just that scramble that

570
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 5: we're all talking about, where I thought it was very

571
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Speaker 5: evident that he was gimpy. That is not the Daniel

572
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 5: Jones that I have come to know this year, which

573
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Speaker 5: is a guy who just leisurely finishes a play. That

574
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Speaker 5: if anything, he's been the guy who we have said, hey, hey,

575
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 5: chill out, okay, and here's this guy just sort of

576
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 5: gingerly running out of bounds, you know, within no side

577
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Speaker 5: of a defender. That was that was interesting, But it's

578
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Speaker 5: more than that. I think you have to ask questions

579
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Speaker 5: when you see his accuracy at times, not all the time.

580
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 5: I think in very small instances. You saw him make

581
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Speaker 5: some errant throws and we all kind of looked at

582
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Speaker 5: each other, like, man, he missed that one. And that's

583
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 5: not something we've been saying about Daniel Jones, right, So again,

584
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 5: I am not attributing that to whatever is going on

585
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 5: with him physically, But I think that allows us to

586
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 5: have this discourse and raise more questions because those things

587
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 5: did happen and we don't know enough about the injury.

588
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 5: So that's just how it.

589
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: Goes to piggyback off of that. Steven, I've been kicking

590
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: this question around basically since we left Kansas City the

591
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: other night. How much of the coult be looking at

592
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 3: the franchise tag now versus I don't know five weeks ago,

593
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Speaker 3: when Daniel Jones is playing at an all world level.

594
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 5: Well, I think that's a fair question or a good question.

595
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 5: I think I think that he will answer that question

596
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 5: in the next few weeks. You know, they don't have

597
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 5: to make the decision now, which is a good thing. However,

598
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 5: I think that's just the point, is that the next

599
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 5: few weeks really gonna shape I think how this offseason goes,

600
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Speaker 5: whether it is how much they pay Daniel Jones, whether

601
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 5: it's how they do it. You know, you brought the

602
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 5: franchise tag, you know, does that come into play. I

603
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 5: think all of that will get clarified here down the stretch.

604
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 5: That's kind of what I wrote about today. I think

605
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 5: that's really you know, he has to answer the bell.

606
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 5: That's basically what this is. Because for all the people,

607
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Speaker 5: I think there's still been some disagreement on Daniel Jones

608
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 5: this here, whether it's my own colleague Teddy Bruski, whatever, right,

609
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 5: there's been some There's been some sentiment that like the

610
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 5: jury is still out and is this just a product

611
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 5: of the system, all that stuff, right, Okay, Well, the

612
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 5: beauty of it is here is your opportunity go get

613
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 5: your team into the playoffs, win the division, and set

614
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 5: them up for success. That is the challenge for Daniel

615
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 5: Jones here. And I'm not putting it all on him,

616
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 5: of course not, that's not the job. But he has

617
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 5: to step up, There's no question about that. And this

618
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 5: is going to be a test for him, and I

619
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 5: think we're going to learn a lot about him.

620
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Speaker 2: Steven hold It from ESPN with the seat on the

621
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Speaker 2: Payless Slickers hot line. Steven, if you assigned a letter

622
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: grade to the Colts defense for the effort Sunday in

623
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Speaker 2: Kansas City. Your letter grade would be what.

624
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 5: Oh man, I don't think people will agree with me,

625
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 5: but I would say a B minus. And the reason

626
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 5: I know that fourth quarter, I know it was painful,

627
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 5: I get it, but I blame as much the offense

628
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 5: for that as the defense. I think where I downgrade

629
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 5: them the most is ultimately, when you have a chance

630
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 5: to get off the field, you have to you have

631
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,719
Speaker 5: to pass that test, and they did not at times.

632
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,239
Speaker 5: But I also think when you look at how they

633
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 5: played throughout that game up until the fourth quarter, did

634
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 5: you think much of the Chiefs offense. No. And the

635
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 5: reason for that is because the defense did a hell

636
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Speaker 5: of a job. So I have a hard time just

637
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 5: completely ignoring that because of the way they played throughout

638
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 5: the game. I mean, Mahomes was holding the ball and

639
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 5: holding the ball, I mean all day long, and he

640
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 5: wasn't doing that for his health. He had nowhere to

641
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 5: throw it. I just think at the end of the day,

642
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 5: ninety plus plays is unsustainable. Any defense on the planet

643
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 5: is going to look awful after ninety plays. That's a

644
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 5: game and a half worth of snaps. It is what

645
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 5: it is, and I think that was a bigger factor

646
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Speaker 5: than we probably are are crediting.

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Speaker 2: James kind of had audible reaction when I brought this

648
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Speaker 2: up yesterday. I think Matt Taylor shared this on Colt

649
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: Around Table Live Monday night. But if you look at

650
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Speaker 2: the yardage from Sunday, Steven, the Colts got out gained

651
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: by like I want to say, it's right around two forty.

652
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Speaker 2: That is the most they've been out gained in a

653
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Speaker 2: game since twenty seventeen, which I was I was stunned by,

654
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Speaker 2: and like you know, when you hear now that yardage

655
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Speaker 2: is everything, But I think it is an indicator of

656
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Speaker 2: sometimes how you know in control of the game you are,

657
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Speaker 2: or how much you know whatever between the twenties, maybe

658
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Speaker 2: you play well. Like I didn't walk away from Sunday

659
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Speaker 2: thinking the Chiefs nearly doubled up the Colts from a

660
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Speaker 2: dominant standpoint. You know, it just Sunday had such an

661
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Speaker 2: odd feel to it in you know, the twenty four

662
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Speaker 2: to forty eight hour aftermath and kind of how you

663
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Speaker 2: assess that game.

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, listen, that is an awful stat

665
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Speaker 5: but it's also a team stat and I think it

666
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Speaker 5: also speaks to to you know, to that point, I

667
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Speaker 5: think it speaks to the fact that the offense had

668
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Speaker 5: one of its worst days in terms of yardage. I

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Speaker 5: don't know if that was a season low.

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Speaker 2: But I think it was season low.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think like two fifty something.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Daniel Jones season low. I believe in yardedge

674
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Speaker 5: as well, Jonathan Taylor. I think second or third lowest

675
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Speaker 5: game in terms of yardage. I mean, you got to

676
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Speaker 5: move the ball, all right, you got to move the ball.

677
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Speaker 5: And and I think we we we sometimes I think

678
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Speaker 5: since that game have overlooked the fact that they had

679
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Speaker 5: they had the makings of a good opening drive to

680
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Speaker 5: start the game, but short circuit themselves with the penalties,

681
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Speaker 5: which was a theme throughout and the only reason they

682
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Speaker 5: got on the board there was the turnover down by

683
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Speaker 5: mahomes Uh to the interception. To a lot too. Without that,

684
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Speaker 5: which is, you know, put the inside the ten yard line,

685
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Speaker 5: I mean, that game probably is a lot different and

686
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Speaker 5: and we, you know, we we we give the offense

687
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Speaker 5: credit for that, but like, let's be honest, that's a

688
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 5: lot too, you know, so I think we gotta we

689
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Speaker 5: got to keep that in mind too. Like the offense,

690
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Speaker 5: they just absolutely did not do their part. I don't

691
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Speaker 5: really think throughout that game they did anything consistently and ultimately, uh,

692
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Speaker 5: that's that's why they were where they were now. The

693
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 5: defense didn't step up when the time came, but they

694
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Speaker 5: should have never been in that position.

695
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Speaker 3: Again, we're joined by ESPN's Stephen Holder. He covers the

696
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Speaker 3: Colts obviously be doing it for quite a while here

697
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Speaker 3: in the city, Stephen Pivoting to the injury front, we

698
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: have now found out that Ashton Doolan will be on

699
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Speaker 3: injury reserve due to a hamstring injury. He is out

700
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Speaker 3: at least four weeks, is not eligible to return at

701
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Speaker 3: the earliest until week seventeen, and I believe that is

702
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Speaker 3: actually a road game against the Jaguars. So all that

703
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Speaker 3: in mind, how much of a loss do you think

704
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Speaker 3: that is considering how much Ashton Doolan does from offense,

705
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Speaker 3: special teams, and even defense at times.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think the totality of his role

707
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Speaker 5: is very important. And by that, I mean when you

708
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Speaker 5: combine everything that he does. Okay, whether it's his role

709
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Speaker 5: as the fourth receiver, which doesn't sound like much until

710
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Speaker 5: you actually get a twisted ankle, okay, with one of

711
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Speaker 5: your top receivers, you know, and then what he does

712
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Speaker 5: on special teams, which will never be valued at an

713
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Speaker 5: adequate level, right, because we're all the same, we always

714
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Speaker 5: overlook special teams. Right. But I think when you add

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Speaker 5: up everything that he contributes, he is one of their

716
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Speaker 5: most important players. I mean, I don't think that is

717
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Speaker 5: an exaggeration. So do I think this is gonna hurt? Hell, yes,

718
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Speaker 5: it's gonna hurt. You know, whether they need to make

719
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Speaker 5: a move at wide receiver, I don't know that they will.

720
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Speaker 5: I think I think they will lean on treadwell, which

721
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Speaker 5: they have done at times when when they've been down

722
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Speaker 5: a body at that position. But that doesn't mean this

723
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Speaker 5: won't hurt. This is this is gonna be problematic for them.

724
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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 2: Can Steven hold Her from ESPN Colt say, you usually

726
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 2: would say back to practice today, It'll be a walkthrough

727
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Speaker 2: as they get ready for a big one coming up

728
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Speaker 2: Sunday about a three point favorite over the Houston Texans

729
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: inside of Lucas Soil Stadium. Steven, we will see you

730
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Speaker 2: in a bits and a happy, happy Thanksgiving to you

731
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Speaker 2: and the family.

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Speaker 5: All right, same to you guys, and see you soon.

733
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Speaker 3: Wait, I have a question. Are you selling the line?

734
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Speaker 3: I am all right Thanksgiving favorite meal or favorite side

735
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 3: dish at the Thanksgiving table? And then the one you're like,

736
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Speaker 3: I'm not eating that, no matter how good you tell

737
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Speaker 3: me it is.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So I don't know why, but I love dressing

739
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Speaker 5: and and don't for those of you out there who

740
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Speaker 5: are about to come at me with some stuffing, no, okay, no,

741
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Speaker 5: they're not the same. If you don't know the difference,

742
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Speaker 5: Google is your friend. Stuffing is like my favorite all

743
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Speaker 5: time side. I'm sorry. Dressing is my all time favorite

744
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 5: side if it's done right, like it's got to have

745
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Speaker 5: you know, got to have some meat in. There's got

746
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 5: to you know, you got to do it right. But

747
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Speaker 5: if you do it right, yes, that is my thing.

748
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Speaker 5: I could eat a plate of it, which is awful

749
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Speaker 5: for you, but I can do it.

750
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Speaker 3: And the one you kick it to the curb.

751
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Speaker 5: Oh, I'm not saying this is like a regular at

752
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Speaker 5: my house. But like I can scare me to green beans,

753
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Speaker 5: I don't. I don't really care about beans. You sound

754
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 5: like my tap right now, anti vegetable. I'm not anti

755
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 5: vegetable or anything, but like, you know, I feel.

756
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Speaker 2: Like green beans is the saying I put on the

757
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Speaker 2: plate where I'm like this, I'm allowed to eat the

758
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Speaker 2: rest because I'm put the green beans on. That's kind

759
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: of how I do it, all right, AI is saying

760
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Speaker 2: stuffing is a bread mixture cooked inside the cavity of

761
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Speaker 2: a poultry, while dressing is a similar mixture cooked separately

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Speaker 2: in a casserole dish.

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Speaker 5: There you go. There's a very key difference, and one

764
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 5: it's just a tool. The other one is actually like

765
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Speaker 5: for you to really like legit eat. So that's how

766
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Speaker 5: I see it.

767
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Speaker 2: Stuffing cooks And wait, I didn't realize this stuffing.

768
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Speaker 5: Then they are even more confused. Now I know.

769
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Speaker 3: I'm going to taller class with Stephen Older and Kevin Bowen.

770
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Speaker 2: Some you know call the Pioneer Woman. Some called Steven Holder,

771
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: food network expert here on the Payloss Slickers hotline.

772
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 5: So listen, listen, Let's be clear. Now listen, my expertise

773
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 5: is eating, not cooking.

774
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: But yeah, right, but but I know what I'm talking

775
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: about consuming better than preparing. Let's make sure we describe

776
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Speaker 2: it correctly. Steven, Thank you man. I'll see you guys,

777
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: all right, final hour of the week for us. Here

778
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 2: reminder we will have your coverage on variety of stations

779
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: for the Issa State Football Championships this weekend. We'll go

780
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: odd classes on Friday, we'll go even on Saturday, so

781
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Speaker 2: that means opposite the Bucket Game Friday night will be

782
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 2: the Pirates of Maryville. Correct, James talked about that earlier.

783
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: Yes, shout out to Brad Cease, the head coach there.

784
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 3: Good dude, they.

785
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: Will take on New pal and newpal goes without saying

786
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Speaker 2: what they have done here recently with Kyle Ralph and

787
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: company as they really blew out Bloomson South in the

788
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 2: summer day.

789
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Speaker 3: Around best coaches probably in the state any sport.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he is building quite the resume there over in

791
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Speaker 2: Hancock County and speaking of the Bucket game to talk

792
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: more about it. So let's head to the Palot Suckers

793
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 2: hotline right now. A Happy Thanksgiving to our next guest.

794
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: He is Matt Weaver offpeags dot com. What's up, Matt?

795
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 5: How you doing man? Pretty good? Kevin, how are you guys?

796
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: We are great.

797
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: It sounded like a health update from kurtin Signetti was

798
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: pretty good earlier in the week, right Sarat Kamara both

799
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Speaker 2: back in the lineup on Friday night. That's the thought

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Speaker 2: at least.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and it sounds like, you know, there was a

802
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 8: chance for Drew Evans. He said they know more that day.

803
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Speaker 8: Obviously we haven't got anything since then, since we haven't

804
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 8: had any media availability, But yeah, getting Sarat getting back

805
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 8: is definitely huge, and you know, uh big for their offense.

806
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, they've obviously kind of struggled the

807
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 8: last couple weeks a little bit, and I think that's

808
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Speaker 8: been part of it, not having that go to guy

809
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Speaker 8: out there.

810
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Speaker 5: But yeah, getting him back would definitely be, definitely be huge.

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Speaker 8: And then Kamara, I think he played one one possession,

812
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Speaker 8: uh one series I'm sorry in the uh in the

813
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Speaker 8: Wisconsin game before he came out. So yeah, obviously two

814
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Speaker 8: very important pieces for IU Matt.

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Speaker 3: When you look at what i U is trying to do,

816
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Speaker 3: which is finish out the regular season undefeated. How big

817
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Speaker 3: do you think this game is from the standpoint of

818
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Speaker 3: We've got our guys kind of back healthy and we

819
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Speaker 3: want to make sure we're in a pretty good rhythm

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Speaker 3: otter they're having a week off.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it'll be important. I mean, I do

822
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Speaker 8: think the biggest thing this, you know, and everybody's beat up.

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Speaker 8: I mean, Indiana is not like the exception here, but

824
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Speaker 8: they they kind of limped in the to this bye

825
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 8: week and then but this bye week came out a

826
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Speaker 8: really good time because maybe sputtering is too strong of

827
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Speaker 8: a word, but they'd certain weren't playing at the same

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Speaker 8: level that they had played earlier in the.

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Speaker 5: Season the last few weeks.

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Speaker 8: Now they got the wins, and I mean, when you

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Speaker 8: beat another Big Ten team by twenty four and you're

832
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Speaker 8: doing it playing maybe you're you know, c plus game

833
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Speaker 8: that that's pretty good, but you know you're gonna have

834
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Speaker 8: to play a lot better after after this week, when

835
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Speaker 8: you get into the Big Ten championship and into the

836
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Speaker 8: College Football playoff, you know, if you want to make

837
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Speaker 8: some noise. So yeah, getting these guys back, I mean,

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Speaker 8: I still would you know if it was me. You know,

839
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Speaker 8: hopefully you can get up big in the second half,

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Speaker 8: and you can maybe you can kind of you know,

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Speaker 8: not push guys. I mean, you know, serats a hamstring

842
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Speaker 8: and it's gonna be cold, and obviously those things can

843
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 8: be tricky, so you don't want to you don't want

844
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Speaker 8: to overdo it, but definitely would like to get him

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Speaker 8: back in there because he's you know, he hasn't played

846
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Speaker 8: basically like three games, so you'd really like to get

847
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Speaker 8: him in there and get that rhythm going back again

848
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Speaker 8: with Fernando Mendoza because they had it going so good

849
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Speaker 8: earlier in the year. But yeah, that is important. It's

850
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Speaker 8: it's tough. You got to balance that, like I said,

851
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Speaker 8: and balance not overdoing it so that you're healthy for

852
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Speaker 8: the following week if you're playing whoever it is a

853
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Speaker 8: house state most likely, and then and you know, a

854
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 8: couple of weeks after that when you get into the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, let's get into a little bit more of that.

856
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: Mattweaverpeags dot com. So the seat on the Payloffs Sickers hotline.

857
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: It's rather absurd that you know, this is even a conversation.

858
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Speaker 2: But in the this day and age in college football, Matt,

859
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: there is a little bit of a question on what

860
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: exactly these conference championships mean. Now, historically it goes without

861
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: saying what it would mean for Indiana to win a

862
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Speaker 2: Big Ten football championship, But let's just talk in the

863
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five winning it would do what you know,

864
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Speaker 2: I guess you would get the one seed, you get

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Speaker 2: the first choice of a neutral site game. Am I

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Speaker 2: missing anything else on what winning it would mean? Obviously,

867
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Speaker 2: as we saw last year, Ohio State didn't even make

868
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 2: it and won it all.

869
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not really sure. I think it's more you

870
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 8: get a trophy, I guess, and you get to say

871
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 8: you're the Big Ten champs.

872
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 7: I think.

873
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 8: I think whoever wins that game would get I think

874
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 8: they're slotted to the Rose Bowl, because that's kind.

875
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 5: Of the big thing.

876
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: No matter what, you go to the Rose Bowl.

877
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 8: I think I think so, And for me personally, I

878
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 8: actually don't want to. I'd better go somewhere where it's

879
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 8: not as far as a flight and travels a little

880
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 8: bit easier. But that's me being selfish.

881
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: But it's Dallas. Is it Dallas, Atlanta, Miami or the

882
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: Rose Bowl?

883
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 5: Is that right? Yeah? Yeah?

884
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 8: And I would my guess is this is just me guessing,

885
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 8: but like the se top SEC teams, I would think

886
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 8: it's probably gonna get.

887
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 5: It's not at Lante.

888
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 8: I think it's New Orleans, Miami, Dallas, and the Rose Bowl,

889
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 8: So I would think they probably get the Sugar Bowl.

890
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: That's more of an SEC game year.

891
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 8: Ye right, yeah, historically, so I would think, and then Miami,

892
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 8: I'm not I you know, so I guess it'd be

893
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 8: maybe Miami or Dallas if you lose, you if you

894
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 8: lose that Big Ten championship. But I'm not really sure

895
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 8: what it does. I saw Rich Eiden kind of going

896
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 8: off about this about like you're gonna you know, you're

897
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 8: gonna kill an undefeated season for one of your teams

898
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 8: the Big Ten is, and I mean, I kind of

899
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 8: see his point, but I don't know. I mean, I

900
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 8: think it's you know, you're gonna make money, You're gonna

901
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 8: sell a bunch of tickets, You're gonna fill up Lucas

902
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 8: Oil because if ahow States there, it's gonna be packed

903
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 8: and be packed probably no matter what, but definitely if

904
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 8: they're there. So, you know, I don't know what it

905
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 8: does for you that the Committee's always said that they

906
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 8: don't put a ton of stock into it. So I

907
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 8: think even if Indiana loses, unless they just get absolutely

908
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 8: dog walked, I think they stay in the top four

909
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 8: and they still get a bye. So, I mean, other

910
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 8: than getting post potentially getting guys hurt, I'm not sure

911
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 8: where there's a whole lot of benefit for you, you know,

912
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 8: in playing this game. And here's the other thing. This

913
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 8: is a weird thing to say, but it's hard to

914
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 8: be the team twice in one year. So let's just

915
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 8: say you going there and you beat Ohao State, if

916
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 8: you meet him. I mean, I just think it's tough.

917
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 8: I think it's really tough to beat the team twice

918
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 8: in one year. That's why I like in the second

919
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 8: if Indy I gets to buy, I'd rather not. If

920
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 8: I'm Indiana, rather not play Oregon, the number one team

921
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 8: I'd rather not play, and Keneral is another Dame because

922
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 8: another Dame is playing fantastic right now, and Jeremiah Love

923
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 8: is a freaking beast, So I don't want to play

924
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 8: Notre Dame in that in that quarterfinal round. If I'm

925
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 8: if I'm a team, I think they're an absolute dangerous team.

926
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 8: But I think it's tough to play a team be

927
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 8: him twice in one year. So it's just weird if

928
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 8: you have to playoff of state and you're playing potentially

929
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 8: what a month later and possibly the national championship game.

930
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just some odd conversations regarding conference championships. I

931
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: you know, just hearing you discuss it all, I'm like

932
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: nodding my head. But then I'm like, man, give it

933
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: the history of the Indiana football program. You know, accomplishing

934
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: a Big Ten championship would obviously be something incredible. All right,

935
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: let's shift gears individually. Fernando Mendoza, it still appears to

936
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: be the favorite for the Heisman Trophy you mentioned love.

937
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: You know, his name is obviously grown a little bit.

938
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: We'll see what Julian Saying can do in a you

939
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: know what will be a heavily watched game coming up

940
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: on Saturday with Ohio State in Michigan. If Mendoza just

941
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: kind of doesn't do anything too, I guess negative is

942
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: that your thought that he will win the Heisman here

943
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: coming up?

944
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 8: I mean, I guess he Listen, Fernando's had a great year,

945
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 8: he really has. He's done a lot of special things.

946
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 8: But let's be honest, this is not a this is

947
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 8: not a vintage Heisman, you know race. There's not like

948
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 8: a couple of two or three guys that are just

949
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 8: you know, blowing everybody, you know, I mean like they're

950
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 8: playing like an incredible level, playing a really high levels.

951
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 8: Don't get me wrong, but usually you have, you know,

952
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 8: a couple of guys that are just doing something ridiculous.

953
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: I guess.

954
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 8: So, I mean again, I think Jeremiah Loves should be

955
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 8: in a conversation big time. I mean, they've got a

956
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 8: freshman quarterback up there. He is just ridiculous.

957
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 5: You know.

958
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 8: I get the acc is not that is not great,

959
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 8: but the bottom line is they're they're curb stomping people.

960
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 8: I mean that game against Syracuse, they could have named

961
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 8: the score. But yeah, I mean, I think Julian's saying,

962
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 8: obviously he's done great things in the last couple of weeks.

963
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 8: He hasn't had uh uh, he has had you know,

964
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 8: May arguably the best receiver in football. And Carnel Tate

965
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 8: is right up there too.

966
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: That those guys have been banged up.

967
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 8: So I mean, I think I think it's to me,

968
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 8: it's kind of a three horse race, and I you know,

969
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 8: I think it's kind of this is you know, obviously

970
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 8: non quarterbacks have won up before it happened last year,

971
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 8: but it's to me, it's kind of like in the NFL,

972
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 8: I think quarterbacks get a little bit more of an

973
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 8: advantage when you're playing for these individual awards that maybe

974
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 8: a running back or somebody else unless they just do something,

975
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 8: you know, and cry. So I would say he's probably

976
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 8: the favorite. But for me, and while it would be

977
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 8: great for an Indiana player to win the Heisman, the

978
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 8: most important thing is getting through this week and obviously

979
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 8: the Big Ten Championship is healthy as possible so that

980
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 8: you can make a run for a national title.

981
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 3: Last one from me, Matt. Along those lines, though, do

982
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 3: you think he cares about it? I know when we

983
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 3: ask players that as reporters, are like a team first,

984
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 3: but it's the highest what we're talking about.

985
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 8: Oh, I think I think I think any player cares

986
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,959
Speaker 8: about individual awards. I do think Fernando is about team first,

987
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 8: and I think, listen, I think Fernando came to Indiana

988
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 8: because he wanted to be coached so he can get

989
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 8: to the next level. I think I think his ultimate

990
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 8: goal is to be an NFL quarterback, which is a

991
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 8: goal of probably almost any player in college football. And

992
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 8: I think that's his biggest goal. And I think that's

993
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 8: what he would say individually if he wins the Heisman.

994
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 8: I think, of course he'd love to win the Heisman.

995
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 8: Who wouldn't. I mean that's that's a big deal. But

996
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 8: at the end of the day, if they tell him

997
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 8: we're gonna go through the playoff and you're gonna throw

998
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 8: the ball twenty times a game, we're gonna run it.

999
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 8: Not Onlessen are gonna do this. We're gonna run at

1000
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 8: forty forty five times a game because that's how we

1001
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 8: think we can win. I think he would be like, okay,

1002
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 8: or you know whatever. I obviously the heismanvie before that,

1003
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 8: but like in the Ohio State game or the Perduo

1004
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 8: game this week, he's gonna do what's best for the team.

1005
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 8: And if the Heisman comes from that, great, and if

1006
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 8: it doesn't, I mean I don't I think he'll be

1007
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 8: okay with that. But yeah, he's a he's a competitor.

1008
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, and Fernando is I mean, you've

1009
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 8: seen him. He's outstanding interviews. He always says the right thing.

1010
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 8: But I would say, deep down, if you if you

1011
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 8: put him on the LNE detective tests, he said, yeah,

1012
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 8: I'd love to win the Heisman. Who wouldn't.

1013
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

1014
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 3: I feel like part of Ames gotta be like, I'm

1015
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 3: better than these dudes. He wouldn't say that, but I'll

1016
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: say it.

1017
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 6: For him.

1018
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: Is the thought his brother will be the starter next year.

1019
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 8: Well, I think he'll be in the mix. I mean,

1020
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 8: here's the thing. Let's I think it's I think there's

1021
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 8: a better chance of me being the quarterback in Indiana

1022
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 8: next year than Fernando Mendoza because he's gonna go pro.

1023
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 8: I guess, unless he just doesn't want to play for

1024
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 8: the Jets or possibly the Browns, which I don't think

1025
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 8: I could blame him, but you know, I think it's

1026
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 8: pretty I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion. This

1027
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 8: isn't so worse, This is just this is just being logical.

1028
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 8: He's gonna go pro. If you look at their quarterback

1029
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 8: room after that, they just they you know, they've parted

1030
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 8: ways with their twenty twenty six commit Cascier era Tyler

1031
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 8: Cherry's expected to be back on the roster after missing

1032
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 8: this year with the knee injury. And then they have

1033
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 8: another young quarterback that's a true freshman o the Illinoid,

1034
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 8: Jacob Bell. So you have an incredibly incredibly inexperienced quarterback

1035
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 8: room for twenty twenty six.

1036
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 5: They're gonna go get a transfer.

1037
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 8: Now, who that is, and what kind of level he'll be,

1038
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 8: will be a guy that comes in and you know

1039
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 8: you he's not. It's not like the Ferndo Mendoza where

1040
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 8: he's basically annointed the starter, or will be somebody where

1041
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 8: you just want to bring in somebody who can provide

1042
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 8: competition and has a chance to win the job, but

1043
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 8: for an end or I'm sorry, Alberto is still you know,

1044
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 8: a part of that discussion. But they're going to bring

1045
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 8: in a transfer.

1046
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 7: There's no you.

1047
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 6: You have to.

1048
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 8: It would be honestly coaching negligence if you didn't, because

1049
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 8: if some if Alberto would get hurt, you're turning to

1050
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 8: a guy who literally has never taken a snap in

1051
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 8: college football, and you just can't do that. So they'll

1052
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 8: bring in a transfer. But I think he will definitely

1053
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 8: be in the mix. So I think he's got a

1054
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 8: good shot to win the job. He's a talentan. We

1055
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 8: just haven't seen him when the bullets are really real.

1056
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 8: We've seen him a mop up time and he's looked great.

1057
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 8: But it's a lot different coming in forty nine ten

1058
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 8: than when the score is maybe ten to ten.

1059
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: He could very well get in coming up on Friday,

1060
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 2: night with how Indiana has played here as of late,

1061
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 2: it is the Bucket Game, twenty eight and a half

1062
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 2: point favorite Indiana over Purdue in this one again seven

1063
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: thirty coming up from Wes Lafia, Matt, have a great

1064
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving man, you.

1065
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 8: Two guys, thanks so much for having me on Indiana.

1066
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 2: Sports Writer of the Year finalists. Our very own James Bord.

1067
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 9: How about our next guests, Indiana Sportscaster finalists, No surprise whatsoever,

1068
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 9: the one, the only, Greg Rakestraw Right, congrats.

1069
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 6: Brother, thank you, appreciate Dad, and good luck to the

1070
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 6: other four finalists in Christini, Rob Blackman, Andrew Chernoff, and

1071
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 6: Mark Boyle.

1072
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 7: I am honored to be part of such a group.

1073
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 2: Well, they are honored to be a part of view

1074
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 2: on that list there, Ray, this is one of my

1075
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: favorite weeks of the year. I know it's a week

1076
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: that has your schedule crowded like none other. Last night

1077
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: over on the West Side, what does the entire week

1078
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: look like? I believe you've got a college basketball game

1079
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 2: on Friday?

1080
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 7: I do so.

1081
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 6: Last night was game one of six for me, not

1082
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 6: counting the Colts on Sunday to the night as Avon

1083
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 6: and Plainfield with a season opener, and Plainfield has a

1084
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 6: chance to do some damage in four A this year.

1085
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 6: They're part of a loaded schedule sectional that Ben Davis

1086
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 6: is a part of. Pike maybe the best team in

1087
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 6: the state and it's in that sectional.

1088
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: Two.

1089
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 6: Plainfield is led by Noah Smith. That's going to go

1090
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 6: play at DePaul for Chris Holtman next year and is

1091
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,959
Speaker 6: unlikely Indiana All Star. Avon's got some young pieces around

1092
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 6: Jendiah Minette and a new coach and Corey Taylor who

1093
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 6: led Ben Davis the state championship game back in twenty

1094
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 6: twenty four. That's tonight's game at seven thirty on my

1095
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 6: Inde TV. Been on Friday afternoon, I will have the

1096
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 6: Butler Wright State game on n Plus. I was great

1097
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 6: to hear Fad model the program early. I'll be catching

1098
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 6: up with Fad coming up on Friday morning before the

1099
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 6: game and then it's five a Friday.

1100
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 7: Night for me.

1101
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 6: And on Saturday, I you Indy Moorhead stayed at two

1102
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 6: and then the six A game at seven o'clock Saturday night.

1103
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 5: Rake.

1104
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 3: When you look at these football matchups, first off, I'll

1105
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 3: back up and say I saw you last time at

1106
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 3: Beata and get a chance to go over there. You

1107
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 3: were doing your thing on the airways, but certainly a

1108
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 3: great game we saw last night.

1109
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 6: First of all, you could have come over because of

1110
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 6: the late start of the JV game fair fifty minutes

1111
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 6: a live pregame on television. You would have been welcomed

1112
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 6: to come over and say hello, we're to turn a headset.

1113
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 6: Ond you would not let you leave for ten minutes. Secondarily,

1114
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 6: I did points since you were sitting next to our

1115
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 6: great mutual friend John Eastern mid court.

1116
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 7: Yes, And I went to Jason Thompson since I had

1117
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 7: a camera guy or me. I said, hey, I said,

1118
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 7: you see that guy down there, that's James Boyd. Then

1119
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 7: he pointed. I said, no, no, no, that's my buddy Johnny's.

1120
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 7: The guy next to him is James Boyce.

1121
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 6: So we got you a congratulatory shout out for your

1122
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 6: finalist status all on the broadcast last.

1123
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 2: Night, much appreciation.

1124
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 6: I thought it was of Nodes that I pointed out

1125
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 6: two people in the stands the we could get on camera,

1126
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 6: the other one being you know, Jason Gardner's dad who

1127
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 6: flew in from Arizona to watch him play. We didn't

1128
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 6: get Jason Gardner's dad on camera. We got James Boyd

1129
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 6: on camera, hashtigen priorities.

1130
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 5: There you go.

1131
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 3: I appreciate that Rick always the consummate pro. But looking

1132
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 3: ahead to this weekend, obviously huge games, legacies and the

1133
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 3: such will be decided for certain programs. What are some

1134
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 3: perhaps underrated storylines we should pay attention to? Because I

1135
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: know the big one is Brownsbury trying to go back

1136
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 3: to back and remain undefeated for the second traight year.

1137
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 6: You know, I really think we're gonna have five or

1138
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 6: maybe even all six games to be pretty competitive.

1139
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 7: You know. The one that you don't think will be

1140
00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 7: just because what they.

1141
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 6: Have done to virtually everybody else they have played is

1142
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 6: New Pal. I know Varravilt got some serious talent and

1143
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 6: serious speed on that team. Can they handle the physicality

1144
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 6: of New Pal and New Pal for what they have done?

1145
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 7: There are two stats that jump off the page to me.

1146
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 6: If they are to win this game, they will have

1147
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 6: beaten a ranked team every round of the tournament. That

1148
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 6: has not been done since we went to an all

1149
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 6: in tournament format in nineteen eighty five. Now again in

1150
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 6: five A and six A. Because it's only thirty something

1151
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 6: teams and ten teams are ranked. It's a little easier

1152
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 6: to do that, but it's still literally the toughest path

1153
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 6: you could possibly have, and Newpal has aced.

1154
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 7: Them all so far.

1155
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 6: Other thing that should tell you the amazing job that

1156
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 6: Kyle Ralph is in a New Pal. If they win,

1157
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 6: it's the fifth time they would have won a championship

1158
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 6: in undefeated fashion.

1159
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 7: The other two coaches that have done that.

1160
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 6: But right, Dick Nollahan, that should get your attention in

1161
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 6: terms of kind of what Kyle has meant in a

1162
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 6: short amount of time to Indiana high school football. But

1163
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 6: in all of these games, you know, you have got

1164
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 6: communities that either have not been there before, communities that

1165
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 6: have not been there in a long time. You have

1166
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,479
Speaker 6: some traditional powers like Ron Colly and Dwinger. Who would

1167
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 6: have thought when Ron Colly beat him three nothing in

1168
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 6: Week one it'd be a state championship rematch, But that's

1169
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 6: where we are in four A. But again, JB, I

1170
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 6: think the overarching theme is I really think at least

1171
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 6: five of these games should be pretty competitive, one or

1172
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 6: two score games.

1173
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: And you got me on a Jason Gardner rabbit hole

1174
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: right now. I didn't realize he's the third leading scorer

1175
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 2: all time in Arizona. I knew he had a really

1176
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 2: impressive career there, I didn't realize he was that high

1177
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: on the list. Greg greg Shaw went to here payless

1178
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: Slickers hotline rate. Just to remind everybody from a viewing standpoint,

1179
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: is I just ATV's got an app? Right, you can

1180
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: go there?

1181
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 6: And what is it?

1182
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: Is it twenty bucks for the whole for all six

1183
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: games or twenty five bucks something like that.

1184
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 7: Something along those lines. It is IHSAATV. Don't organ again.

1185
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 6: What I would suggest is simply buy a weekend pass

1186
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 6: because basically you can buy one game, or for a

1187
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 6: couple of bucks more, you can buy all six games. Uh,

1188
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 6: and it's a little more consider your Black Friday savings

1189
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 6: from the IHSAA. So simply put go to ihsaatv dot

1190
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 6: org and it will be easy to follow the prompts.

1191
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: Okay, your favorite storyline one A to three A. I

1192
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 2: know we do a lot obviously. You just mentioned ron Kylie,

1193
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: you just mentioned New Pal, We get the six A

1194
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 2: rematch with Westfield and Brownsburg. But if we trimmed it

1195
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 2: down to one A, two A and three A.

1196
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 5: What do you like.

1197
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 6: Cascade going for a first time jumps off the page

1198
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 6: in me uh and the fact that they you know,

1199
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 6: they kind of had the stage for themselves. And I

1200
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 6: love the reference that was made if you had if

1201
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 6: you had the helicopter, the drone would have looked like

1202
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 6: the end of Field of Dreams. Everybody trying to get

1203
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 6: to Cascade High School to and from on Saturday night

1204
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 6: going to there are over four thousand folks that were

1205
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 6: at that game, most if not all, of southwestern Hendrix

1206
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 6: County will be off a three eight game on Friday afternoon.

1207
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 6: The other story that stands out to me is that

1208
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 6: Reid May, the head coach at Brownstown Central, has been

1209
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 6: doing this for a long time. As over three hundred wins,

1210
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 6: his winning percentage is somewhere in the eighty five percent range.

1211
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 6: Brownstown Central has been the best team in their league

1212
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 6: for a long time, and they have always been one

1213
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 6: of the two smallest football playing schools in the Mid

1214
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 6: Southern Conference. And here they are finally getting to a

1215
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 6: state championship game. So it's kind of a career crowning

1216
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 6: achievement for Reed to be able to bring Brownstown Central

1217
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 6: to a state championship game and from a South Putnam standpoint,

1218
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 6: They've been good for a long time. They've been kind

1219
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 6: of knocking on the door. They running a Lutheran or Providence.

1220
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 6: That was not the case in either situation. This year,

1221
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 6: Providence got beaten by Milan South them went to Myland

1222
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 6: and handled them rather easily. And I've known Chuck Sorel,

1223
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 6: their head coach, back to his playing days at Franklin

1224
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 6: College twenty five years ago.

1225
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 7: So I am. I'm so happy for Chuck.

1226
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 6: I had a good chance to catch up with him

1227
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 6: and see him on Monday. But I think of one

1228
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 6: h or three those are the immediate things that come

1229
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 6: to mind.

1230
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 3: So Rake, I know you don't count it in your

1231
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 3: six games coming up, but you do have a Colts

1232
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 3: game to call, So what are your thoughts on the

1233
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 3: opportunity that awaits against Houston and perhaps how formidable that

1234
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 3: defense is considering the gut wrenching loss to Coles just

1235
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 3: came off of in Kansas City.

1236
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, quite formidable.

1237
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 6: And again, and I point this out on the post

1238
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 6: game show Sunday, that's not the way NFL players or

1239
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 6: coaches think. But maybe this is a recalibration for fans.

1240
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 6: I'm not saying the way, bye bye the dream of

1241
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 6: being the number one seed in the AFC South, But

1242
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 6: now the focuses are remember when seeing the AFC, but

1243
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 6: now the focus is on the AFC South. The next

1244
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 6: two games will determine what the conversation looks like for

1245
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 6: the following four weeks.

1246
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 7: If the Colts can find a way.

1247
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:12,479
Speaker 6: To win against Houston and beat Jacksonville, the AFC South

1248
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 6: is theirs. And now realistically, you're playing for a first

1249
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 6: weekend by you're playing for a second potential home game.

1250
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 6: But now you got to take care of business. And

1251
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 6: you know, when the season started, I almost think the

1252
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 6: overwhelming thought was, Hey, if you're in the neighborhood of

1253
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 6: five hundred, you've got those four division games left of

1254
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 6: your last six. You win those, you're gonna be okay.

1255
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 6: And that is still the prevailing wisdom, even after a

1256
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 6: much better start than anybody would have anticipated. So the

1257
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 6: finish was obviously disappointing on Sunday afternoon, But at the

1258
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 6: same time, this is one you ultimately got to kind

1259
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 6: of flush quickly because you know, Houston's playing better football

1260
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 6: and Jacksonville's playing better football, and if you can win

1261
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 6: these next two then maybe we're talking about potentially deep

1262
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 6: run into the month of January when.

1263
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 2: It comes to sports in this state. As we go

1264
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: around the Thanksgiving table, we are very thankful for the one,

1265
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: the only great Rake Straw. That is abundantly true, and

1266
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: he is going to be a busy man in our

1267
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 2: ears and on our television sets coming up here over

1268
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: the next few days. Rake, don't know if I'll see

1269
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 2: you later today at Colts, but if not, I'll certainly

1270
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: see you this weekend and see you on Sunday.

1271
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 6: All right, thanks, well, let's see you later.