1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: I spoke yesterday of a walkout that was put together 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: by the Women's March, and they went after the groups 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: that they go after students. Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: good to be with you. This is a story about 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: how we're paying attention to what happens in our schools, 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: who it is is in charge of our schools, and 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: the issues that they are creating for us. They were 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: gonna have a walk out because ice is terrible, So 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: they walked out. Happened a couple days ago. They walked out, 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: and I asked, how in the world are these students 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: leaving school? And the response that I received was, well, 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: their parents are signing them out. Their parents are signing 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: them ount. The parents hate their kids so much, they're like, no, 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: you don't have to you don't have to worry about 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: getting an education, you don't have to worry about whether 16 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: you disrupt the other students to what you have an 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: issue with ice and you're seventeen. And so there's a 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: walkout and we're okay with this. That is that is 19 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: bad bad parenting as far as I'm concerned, really and 20 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: truly terrible parenting, awful, And so I took note of 21 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: this and said that this is definitively an issue that 22 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: we have first parents who would allow this, shamefully allow this, 23 00:01:50,480 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: and then we would have an administration that would let 24 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: this go. Who in the world, who in their right 25 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: mind would do this, Who in their right mind would 26 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: say to a student, let me tell you it's okay, 27 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: It's all right, you can leave and be a part 28 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: of this walkout. Is it because you're a fellow traveler, 29 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: because you agree that it's okay for kids to miss 30 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: school to participate in some kind of nonsense, non political protest, Well, Tony, 31 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: it is political. They're letting their beliefs be known. They're 32 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: seventeen year olds. Why isn't anybody doing anything to ensure 33 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: that they're in school like the law says they're supposed 34 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: to be. When I want to take my kid out 35 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: of school, I gotta sign nine pieces of paper. I 36 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: got to prove myself this way, that one the other way. 37 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: They want to engage in not being in school to 38 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: participate in a protest from a group of people that 39 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: are known to be bigots, the Women's March led by 40 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: Linda Sarsaur group so bigoted, so absolutely gross in their 41 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: representations that a lot of people dismiss them and said, oh, 42 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: I can't be a part of this. I've realized what 43 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: an awful mistake this is, and what an awful mistake 44 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: it is. Indeed, then you note and so I discussed 45 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: this yesterday, and then what comes next. What comes next 46 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: is an email that lives of TikTok. Put up and 47 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: thank you to Claudia, because I was blacking it out 48 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: while I was doing in the show, actually had the 49 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: phone number, and I'm not about to put a phone 50 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: number up on the screen here as we're live streaming. 51 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: So thank you Claudia from the chat. Good work. This 52 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: is an email that was sent out by the principle 53 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: of Carmel High School, Carmel, Indiana, a place I know 54 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: very very well. It's from the principal guy by the 55 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: name of Tim Ferris. Every interaction I've had with Tim Ferris, 56 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: good guy, decent guy. Kids like him, think he's focused, 57 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: think he's a professional. This was an email sent out 58 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: January fifteenth. Now I welcome Principal Ferris to call in 59 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: to discuss his position. And most importantly, is this email 60 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: a legit? I believe that the email is legitimate. The 61 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: email reads, good afternoon. This is to the Carmel High 62 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: School staff. A potential walkout could occur on Tuesday at 63 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: two twenty five. The City of Karmel has also been 64 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: made aware of this possible event. Students are planning to 65 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: walk from the high school to city Hall, which isn't 66 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: too far of a walk. We met with the student 67 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: planning this event to better understand the magnitude and the 68 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: possible disruption this could cause. The student was cooperative and 69 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 1: after explaining our attendance policy and processes, they have agreed 70 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 1: that any student participating will have their parent or guardian 71 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: create a pre arranged absence. Now at this moment, I stop. 72 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: At this moment, we have a problem. And here is 73 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: the issue. Why is Carmel High School negotiating with a student? 74 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 1: Why is any high school negotiating with a student? Under 75 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: what circumstances? Does the students have a power that forces 76 00:05:55,200 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: the administration of the crown jewel of the education system 77 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: them Throughout the state of Indiana, Carmel is it kids. 78 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: Carmel is the zenith. Carmel is where the money is. 79 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: Carmel is a seat of power in a place called 80 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: Hamilton County, I live here. This is my backyard, this 81 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: is my home. People move to Carmel, not Carmel, not Caramel, Carmel. 82 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: They move to Carmel to be in this school district. 83 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: Everybody within the sound of my voice who lives in 84 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: Indiana and I am on stations from one side of 85 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: the state to the other, they know that's true. And 86 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: a lot of those cities hate Carmel. They love to 87 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: hate Carmel. Picking on Carmel is a joy and a treat. 88 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: Carmel is a place that has five thousand plus students 89 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: in its high school. Why because Carmel doesn't want to 90 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: have two high schools, because they want to have one 91 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: high school where they get the best of the best 92 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: and they win sports, this and other events that and 93 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: admittedly it's an amazing place. It is surreal what the 94 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: school does. For the record, that's where my kids went. 95 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: Like these are this is where I live. Since when 96 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: is a student in charge of Carmel High School? And 97 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: at what moment did the superintendent, did the principal, did 98 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: the school board abdicate their responsibility? When did that happen? 99 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: But the email continues, and it continues, the scheduled time 100 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: is during a passing period. An attendance should be taken 101 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: as normal at the beginning of block four. If a 102 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: student does not have a pre arranged dismissal in the 103 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: system and is saying there leaving your classroom, please just 104 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: tell them they must sign out at door twenty one. 105 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: We do not want to place you in a difficult situation. 106 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: We will have our administrative team throughout the building during 107 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: this time to help honitor to the situation. We are 108 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: still gathering information. We'll continue to monitor with our SROs, 109 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: Safety Resource officers and the City of Carmel. Thanks and 110 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: it signed tim, So you don't have to be signed 111 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: out by a parent. A kid can just decide to 112 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: walk out on their own and the school said, whatever 113 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: you want, just please don't hurt us. We don't want 114 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: to have a situation. I guess this is what happens 115 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: when you have a liberal school board, and we do. 116 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: And there's groups out there, you know, so we support 117 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: Carmel and all that. They're leftist organizations that pretend to 118 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: be nonpartisan and they get left as elected because as 119 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: I said, suburban white women are terrible. Kids are in 120 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: charge of the school. Ladies and gentlemen and this isn't 121 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: just this place in Indiana, this is happening all across 122 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: the country. You just said the students are in charge. 123 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: Can I ask why we have a superintendent, why do 124 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: we have the principal, Why do we have this school board? 125 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: The answer is no, you don't get to leave. Sit down, 126 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: you cause a disruption, you get expelled. Tell your rich 127 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: parents they can put you in private school. You know, 128 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: there's a very exclusive private school called Park Tutor, quite 129 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: literally right down the road. People have heard of Park 130 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 1: Tutor all across the country. Bah Felicia. They gave up. 131 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: They gave up, they gave up being in charge, they 132 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: gave up leading the students. Now the high school is 133 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: like the college, because these kids go to college and 134 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: think they're in charge of the college, and the professors say, please, 135 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: don't hurt us. We just want our tenure. We'll teach 136 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: you anything you want. Just let us keep making the money. 137 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: And every now and again getting a little you know 138 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: what from a freshman who wants a better grade. Oh, 139 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. No, that's just okay, all right, that 140 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: doesn't happen. Allegedly, there we go. Have I satisfied the lawyers. Great, 141 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: this is obscene. This is obscene. Now, three hundred students 142 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: walked out of this high school, as was reported by 143 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: a local publication called you Arecurrent dot com. Three hundred 144 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: out of five thousand, so less than ten percent. Are 145 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: you telling me that Carmel has no way to deal 146 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: with these students if they weren't allowed to walk out 147 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: and they caused a problem. We don't say we're in charge. 148 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: We're the best for a reason. We have the best 149 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: education for the reason. For a reason. They just toubted 150 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: that their graduation rate is over ninety nine percent. I'm 151 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: telling you it's amazing. And they just said, yeah, we're 152 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: giving it up to the kids school board failure. And 153 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: I know that they're listening. You're really bad at this. 154 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: This is disgusting. Your job is to say no, you kid, 155 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: go and learn. You don't get to disrupt. You can 156 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: have a rally on your time. But this is school 157 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: and we've got rules here, and the superintendent should have 158 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: said we absolutely don't allow this in this school district. 159 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: What are we all nuts? You tell the student to 160 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: sit down and pay attention in class or expulsion. I 161 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: like the principle. I'm gonna run into this man. You 162 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: know this isn't somebody who you just are throwing stones 163 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: at because you're never gonna see him again. And people 164 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: on social media and influencers can just say anything they 165 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: want because there's no real world ramification. I'm going to 166 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: run into this man. I'm gonna buy a coffee somewhere 167 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be online behind me or in front 168 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: of me, and it's gonna be like, oh hey, principal 169 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: Feris hello, cats Seinfeld Newman. But I'll probably be reversed 170 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: and this conversation is gonna come up. But am I 171 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: supposed to not talk about a subject because it's my backyard? 172 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. We are not going to seed the education 173 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: landscape to the student in high school. And if this 174 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: is the case, start sending your kid to private school, 175 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: start home schooling, break the school in two and they 176 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: can take that beautiful high school in Carmel, Indiana and 177 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: they could turn it into condos for all I care, 178 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: because it's not providing a value. This letter I believe 179 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: is real. If this is real, this is obscene. If 180 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: kids were allowed to sign themselves out, who's running the asylum. 181 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm for new leadership. I'm Tony Katz, And this is 182 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today