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Speaker 1: Good morning. You've made it to the first day of

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Speaker 1: the College football is semi finals that'll be later on tonight.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to see who will play in the first

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Speaker 1: side of the championship game. Indiana gets their shot with

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Speaker 1: Oregon tomorrow night. But you've got a pretty good game

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Speaker 1: Ole Miss in Miami later on tonight. Some good college

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Speaker 1: basketball last night. A little closer in one than I

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Speaker 1: thought it was going to be, but we got it

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Speaker 1: all figured out. Good morning, Kevin Bowen. Good morning, James

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Speaker 1: Boyd and KB had the Big Ten double header last night,

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Speaker 1: Indiana getting a road win that was fun to see

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Speaker 1: and I don't know was produced quote unquote playing with

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Speaker 1: their food in the second half last night. Got a

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Speaker 1: little bit closer down the stretch, but they didn't have

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Speaker 1: too much trouble in winning the game, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, betting purposes, Yeah, you probably don't love the final

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Speaker 2: results winning by eight if you were on that line,

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Speaker 2: but that game was never in doubt whatsoever. I kind

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Speaker 2: of feel this is a unique Thursday morning for us

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Speaker 2: in that, you know, obviously we'll hear from Chris Baoward

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Speaker 2: here coming up at eleven AM. But I have a

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Speaker 2: feeling and maybe I'm being a little bit more optimistic

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Speaker 2: than most. But I'm gonna guess there is a section

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Speaker 2: the Knoxville side to get to Atlanta? Sixty five will

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Speaker 2: be heavily populated with the cream and crimson colored cars

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Speaker 2: here on this Thursday morning. I'd assume maybe some might

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Speaker 2: play with a little bit more fire and leave tomorrow

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Speaker 2: early as well. But I know my in laws, for example,

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Speaker 2: are making the commute down here this morning. So if

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Speaker 2: you are in your car, safe travels. And I don't know,

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Speaker 2: maybe we can feel the call at some point today

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Speaker 2: from an IU fan heading down to the Peach State

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Speaker 2: to take in what will be the national semi final

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Speaker 2: coming up tomorrow night on the other side of the bracket.

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Speaker 3: So are the in laws going to the game?

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Speaker 2: They are, Yeah, yeah. My father in law is an

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Speaker 2: IU football season taken hold it for quite a while,

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Speaker 2: so yeah, he They're ready to go. Everybody's ready, And

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Speaker 2: again I'll kind of go what I said all week.

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Speaker 2: I feel really good about it, and now I'm locked

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Speaker 2: into today. I think to Night's more than fifty to

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Speaker 2: fifty game than tomorrow, to be totally honest, feels that way.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, James, that's fair.

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Speaker 4: I saw that Frenando Mendoza was saying in his media session,

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Speaker 4: realster underdogs approaching this like underdogs. I think that they

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Speaker 4: believe that. But reading that, I was like, yeah, you're

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Speaker 4: not underdogs.

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Speaker 2: You want to.

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Speaker 4: And see if you're an underdoger not at all, but

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Speaker 4: I appreciate the mentality.

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Speaker 3: I had somebody.

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Speaker 4: Screenshot and send me the rankings as far as like

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Speaker 4: how many fire start recruits they had and all of that.

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Speaker 4: But look, man, I didn't say that as a slight

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Speaker 4: to Frenando Mendozo, but I do think athletes lie to

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Speaker 4: themselves and to the public about those things. Because the

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Speaker 4: Destinas saw their wire. But in reality, you are not

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Speaker 4: an underdog at all. You have been the best team

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Speaker 4: in college fotball all year. And I say that not

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Speaker 4: tongue in cheek. I say that with a lot of respect.

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Speaker 4: I mean every team that you've faced, you've handled. You're

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Speaker 4: the last team that's undefeated and again being the Illinois

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Speaker 4: guy didn't take me long to get convinced.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of where it all really started to

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Speaker 1: pick up steam and rolling. Is that Illinois game? You know? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the first four games where people were like, oh, what

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Speaker 1: kind of I was, what kind of schedule is this?

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Speaker 1: What are they doing? Well apparently Kurtzik natty knew exactly

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Speaker 1: then a little scary against Penn State. They got that

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Speaker 2: Well, you have to mention the game at Oregon. I

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Speaker 2: mean that, Yeah, that was That's true. That was truly

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Speaker 2: I think game day was out in Eugene.

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Speaker 1: But what do they do? What do they do with

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Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, but still, I mean I think Oregon it

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Speaker 2: Penn State as well. So three and a half points

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Speaker 2: spread last I checked both. So Miami favorite over old

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Speaker 2: Miss tonight again that is out in the Fiesta Bowl

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Speaker 2: there in Arizona, and then tomorrow night Indiana still a

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Speaker 2: three and a half point favorite over the Ducks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Can we just talk about Lamar Wilkerson a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Last night in the second half against Maryland, he like

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Speaker 2: He's done this a couple times this season where he

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Speaker 2: is like the microwave heater. And you know, I said

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Speaker 2: earlier in the week, I don't know what necessarily March

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Speaker 2: if you look at you know, some of the brackets

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Speaker 2: the bubble, but not like significantly I saw.

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Speaker 1: On them this morning. The athletic had them projected as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, again, I think so far they've done,

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Speaker 2: I do think they will pluck some upsets here, certainly

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Speaker 2: but you know, Tucker and Freeze has what five points

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Speaker 2: of the entire second half. Will Kristin certainly had the heater.

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Speaker 2: And I thought Joe Dirt the point guard, was outstanding.

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Speaker 2: He continues to make plays on both ends of the floor.

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Speaker 1: Yep. And they struggle a little bit watching they they

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Speaker 1: didn't I think they were two for twelve in the

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Speaker 1: that not allowed? You can do whatever you want. You

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Speaker 2: He takes out as a compliment.

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Speaker 4: Connor Enron was going to say, if he's old enough

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's no chance.

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Speaker 1: Hero have a nice game. Though, but Ree Bailey had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they need more from Bailey, need more from Bailey

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Speaker 2: and more from Alexis. You're going to play teams obviously

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Speaker 2: Maryland missing their best player, best big guy. So again

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Speaker 2: true road win and really for Indiana and Purdue in

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Speaker 2: the and it's going to start on Saturday with Nebraska.

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Speaker 2: Both these teams are about ready to enter the first

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Speaker 2: in here. So it's about to get a real respective

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: We'll speak of that. We're going to talk to Thad

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Speaker 1: Butler gonna be Look, they got to get things going

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Speaker 1: on the Big East Tournament. They have only had one

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Speaker 1: It's fun to watch them, and they one of the

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Speaker 1: What do you think he's likely to come out.

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Speaker 1: What do you think he'll be well?

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Speaker 2: you know when would Ballard ever attack free agency differently?

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Speaker 2: And at this press conference last year he admitted that

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Speaker 2: his philosophy had been, you know, too frugal in previous years.

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Speaker 2: He needed to change his ways, and obviously his actions

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Speaker 2: the unknown for me? Is this simply just hey, I

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Speaker 2: Because that was largely the tone I got from Carlie

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Speaker 2: Ersa Gordon earlier in the week. It was first two

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Speaker 2: months the season, as long as the football gods give

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Speaker 2: us good health, we're good. Is there something I'm missing he?

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Speaker 2: Is he going to act differently? Is he going to

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Speaker 2: part ways with some key veterans like he's never done, James?

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Speaker 2: That would be kind of where I'm at today because

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Speaker 2: I don't walk into that press conference with this obvious

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Speaker 2: of Oh yeah, I have a feeling his message will

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Speaker 2: be this like I might have last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm just curious to know what's the balance there.

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Speaker 4: What's the balance between you giving yourself some credit and

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Speaker 4: some grace for changing your roster construction and then running

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Speaker 4: into a bunch of injuries, but also realizing that your

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Speaker 4: team was not able to win a game for the

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Speaker 4: last two months of the season. A seven game losing

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Speaker 4: streak just can't be ignored or or absolved, especially considering

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Speaker 4: that you had a couple of leads in those games

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Speaker 4: thing that besides saying the sense of urgency is higher

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Speaker 4: have to finish, So what will you do to help

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Speaker 4: your team finish in the future. But ultimately we'll build

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Speaker 4: it up because that's our jobs. But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: Indeed, yes, so people.

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Speaker 2: Are we finally putting the car? Are we finally putting

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Speaker 1: It's a team that they've beaten already this year.

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Speaker 2: A month ago. Tonight was the last time the Indiana

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Speaker 2: Pacers won a basketball game in Charlotte tonight. Boy, you

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Speaker 2: see that finishing Charlotte last night. You want talking about heartbreaking,

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Speaker 1: All Right, we'll tell you all about everything coming up

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Speaker 1: at a moment. Also, one other thing of note this morning.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with number five Purdue getting a win last

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Speaker 2: No, Purdue was in really full control throughout. I know

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Speaker 1: There was an adventurous, fun, exciting, weird night for Braden Smith.

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Speaker 2: it's about to get real real for Indiana. Here Nebraska,

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Speaker 1: The Hoosiers, now three and one in conference, played twelve

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Speaker 1: first one. That'll be of the Fiesta Bowl Miami against

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Speaker 1: Old Miss seventh thirty pm. It'll be on the ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Miami favored by three and a half JB. But Mississippi's

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Speaker 4: No, they could not. This should be a very good game.

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Speaker 4: I think to Kevin's point from earlier, the IU game

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll continue say what I said all week long.

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Speaker 1: By the way. The answer is to somebody who's made

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's real fun. You might not make it, so

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Speaker 4: I will say this Greg Cooper again, who you shouted

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Speaker 1: Pacers play the Hornets tonight. You mentioned that in a

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Speaker 1: Tonight one of the NBA note Atlanta has traded Trey

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Speaker 4: It just doesn't happen unless your name is. They didn't

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Speaker 2: So the Hawks making the Eastern Conference Finals a few

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Speaker 4: I guess, compensate for that.

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Speaker 1: Kevin, this one for you. Scotti. Scheffler says that he

437
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Speaker 1: will return to play later at the American Express in

438
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Speaker 1: La Kenta, California. Had that hand surgery last year, so

439
00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,119
Speaker 1: I know he's one of your favorite players. It'll be

440
00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,600
Speaker 1: fun to get him back on the tour again.

441
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Speaker 2: I have one favorite player and that's Tiger.

442
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Speaker 1: I thought you were a scotty guy too. No, you're not. No, Wow,

443
00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,800
Speaker 1: I thought you were. You've always spoken.

444
00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,000
Speaker 2: Well of great great talent, great great player.

445
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,840
Speaker 1: I root for Tiger, well, we all do, but is

446
00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:22,800
Speaker 1: that ever gonna happen again?

447
00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,480
Speaker 2: Anythink I root for Tiger and I'm married to Mattie

448
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,320
Speaker 2: Bowen out there.

449
00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 1: I like it and respect he's also he's also devoted

450
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Speaker 1: to Notre Dame Basketball.

451
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,359
Speaker 2: Big one Clemson coming up, Clemson. Nice win last night,

452
00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,480
Speaker 2: by the way, shout out to Breylan Mullens. That Yukon

453
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Speaker 2: probat's game, one of the better games of the night

454
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Speaker 2: in college basketball. Yukon coming back to win that twenty

455
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Speaker 2: four for Braylon Mullens six three pointers, So the.

456
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Speaker 3: Jumper is pure.

457
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Speaker 4: I watched that and was thinking to myself, slow start

458
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 4: because of the injury. But he's won and done. Yeah,

459
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 4: that's an NBA player right there, So I do not

460
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Speaker 4: think he will be.

461
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Speaker 2: And that's the ole con team that could be right

462
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Speaker 2: here in the three one seven. That's a little of April.

463
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Speaker 1: Wouldn't be surprised, all right. Coming up in a minute,

464
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Speaker 1: we'll talk more about Indiana. There's se my final game

465
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Speaker 1: against the Oregon Ducks, and Chris Ballard speaks to the

466
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Speaker 1: media later on today, we'll get to the text line

467
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Speaker 1: for the first time at two three nine ten seventy

468
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Speaker 1: all straight ahead on a Thursday morning at ninety three

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Speaker 1: five and one seven five.

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Speaker 8: The Fan, they seized a fan morning show with KB

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Speaker 8: Shab and Jeff heard of.

472
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Speaker 3: Their opportunity or just killed in the armortunity.

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Speaker 1: That's a loaded one. That's okay, I'll answer it, don't James.

474
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Speaker 9: I mean, Bowen ought at least be freaking happy for once.

475
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Speaker 9: I mean, but you got heard about beat over the

476
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Speaker 9: head with whiteouts forever. Oh and every time a freaking

477
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Speaker 9: read or listen to Bowen, it's like a constant freaking barrage.

478
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Speaker 3: Of room of a white house.

479
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Speaker 9: Gift kids change. Yeah, sometimes with your kids, you expect

480
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Speaker 9: them to do things and they don't do them. Three

481
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Speaker 9: quarterback players, Oh God, Ken, like you're gonna ask down

482
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 9: in questions the whole time games. I get it, and

483
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Speaker 9: I understand why. But at the end of the day,

484
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Speaker 9: time is what clues your right wrong.

485
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Speaker 1: Keep that last part, Caleb. At the end of the

486
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Speaker 1: day time is what proves your right or wrong. James,

487
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Speaker 1: who do.

488
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Speaker 3: You think he likes more? I'm he or Kevin well,

489
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Speaker 3: you know, here's the thing. And again I've said this before.

490
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Speaker 1: I like Chris Ballard. I do. I enjoy when I

491
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Speaker 1: have conversations with him. I think he's a good human being.

492
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Speaker 1: He has struggled to get it going here with the

493
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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. And if he thinks you guys are tough,

494
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Speaker 1: can you imagine a dozen of you all at the

495
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Speaker 1: same time in New York and half of those dozen

496
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Speaker 1: are truly out to get you.

497
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Speaker 3: I don't know. Kevin frickin' Bowen is pretty tough.

498
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Speaker 2: Eddie Garrison sent me the clip from it was the Combine,

499
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Speaker 2: you know when he said that, And I've always said this,

500
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Speaker 2: I really appreciate Chris not only listening but reading. How

501
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: about that the double whammy there. Outside of Colleen and

502
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Speaker 2: Brad Bowen, I don't know how many people are doing

503
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Speaker 2: the double whammy reading Kevin Bone's work and also listening.

504
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Speaker 1: Uh.

505
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Speaker 2: But he did draft out of Pierce two months after

506
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Speaker 2: that little interaction there, So that was that was a

507
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Speaker 2: hit spoken into existence right there. And that was a

508
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Speaker 2: hit at the NFL Combine. I mean, that was that

509
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Speaker 2: was the right pick. Obviously, something told that certainly one

510
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Speaker 2: of his one of his better ones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, you know it's.

512
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Speaker 3: The Caleb on the rejoinder there too.

513
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Speaker 1: That was a pretty good work.

514
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Speaker 2: That's a lot of audio that you had. You had

515
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Speaker 2: to go through there.

516
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Speaker 7: I had some time in my other part time job.

517
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Speaker 2: Let's just say that.

518
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Speaker 1: I just want to point out that Caleb when he

519
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: was playing that had the biggest smile. It was you

520
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: did a nice job. You've done great being here for Mark.

521
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Speaker 1: But the by the way, for people who are asking,

522
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Speaker 1: we will carry uh, some of that press conference, at

523
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Speaker 1: least the first few minutes of that press conference. Chris

524
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Speaker 1: Ballard today, I generally find that that press conferences are

525
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Speaker 1: great for hardcore fans. For most of our listeners after

526
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Speaker 1: the first few minutes they kind of start glazing their

527
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Speaker 1: eyes over sometimes, So we will carry the first several

528
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Speaker 1: minutes of that and anything big is spoken of or

529
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Speaker 1: anything major happens, of course, will tell you all about that.

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Speaker 2: Eleven am.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, what do you think the chances

532
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Speaker 1: are that starts at eleven am?

533
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Speaker 2: By the way, well, we definitely didn't get started on

534
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Speaker 2: time earlier this week. I don't know his ballad usually

535
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Speaker 2: on time, James, I feel like he's occasionally a little late,

536
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Speaker 2: a little bit, but biking is always on time. That

537
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Speaker 2: man is he's early, say, he's usually early. Punctual, punctual, Yes,

538
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Speaker 2: thank you God, what sound like my dad?

539
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Speaker 1: I think Chris Ballard has done a lot of good things.

540
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Speaker 1: There's been some hits in the draft. There's been you know,

541
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Speaker 1: I like some of the movies he made in the

542
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Speaker 1: in the off season. In the middle of the season,

543
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Speaker 1: I'm finding all that thing. Should we go over that there?

544
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Speaker 1: Let me finish my thought first. The problem is he's

545
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Speaker 1: not gotten the quarterback or the edge rusher, the two

546
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Speaker 1: most important positions in my opinion in the National Football League.

547
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Speaker 1: Those are the things that he's messed up.

548
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Speaker 2: I think he's really draft well in the offensive line now.

549
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Speaker 2: I think you're seeing a nice passing of the torch

550
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: with that group, you know, Tanneborlini, Mackinsolvez, potentially Jalen Travis.

551
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Speaker 1: You know.

552
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Speaker 2: I do think he has hit really nicely linebackers, a

553
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Speaker 2: position he's just historically drafted very well. I do think

554
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Speaker 2: it needs further retooling. But yeah, I would point to

555
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Speaker 2: both of those areas as areas he's done a very

556
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Speaker 2: nice job on.

557
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, quarterback and edge, and how do you

558
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Speaker 1: address those. You're probably gonna address quarterback by bringing Daniel

559
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Speaker 1: Jones back, despite the fact he will probably be ready

560
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Speaker 1: for the first week or two or three or four,

561
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Speaker 1: depending how things go. But again, how do they address

562
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Speaker 1: this problem with rushing the quarterback James?

563
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Speaker 4: That's the question I'll pass along to Chris Baalor. But

564
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Speaker 4: a lot of it I think we'll have to do

565
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Speaker 4: with retooling that defensive line. I was looking yesterday Kevin

566
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Speaker 4: so Quity pay and Samson Eboucom combined for six x

567
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Speaker 4: this past season.

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Speaker 3: That ain't gonna cut it. So you did pay quit.

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Speaker 4: He pays fifth year option last year, so he's going

570
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Speaker 4: into free agency. I would not retain him. Samson Ebukom.

571
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Speaker 4: That was one where actually me and Chris Ballard, but

572
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Speaker 4: it heads on this way back at the owners meetings

573
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Speaker 4: where the GM also spoke and I asked him, why

574
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Speaker 4: are you all bringing him back or is this something

575
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Speaker 4: that gives you pause because he's had the achilles injury

576
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Speaker 4: and he kind of laughed it off and told me, hey,

577
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Speaker 4: don't count him out. Two sacks this past year, so

578
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Speaker 4: he should not be retained either, especially given his age,

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Speaker 4: and I think from there it's all about how can

580
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Speaker 4: you make sure you retain Daniel Jones that's going to

581
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Speaker 4: cost you some money, retain all Pierce that is going

582
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Speaker 4: to cost you some money, and then find some more

583
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Speaker 4: money to perhaps go out there and get a free

584
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Speaker 4: agent to address your defensive line. Because when it has worked,

585
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Speaker 4: and it didn't work this past year, but when it

586
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Speaker 4: has worked in the past under Ballard a lot of it,

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Speaker 4: Kevin has been the free agent signing versus the person

588
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Speaker 4: you drafted.

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Speaker 1: James.

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Speaker 2: You might know this off the top of your head,

591
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Speaker 2: but Quity pay was making he was north of ten

592
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Speaker 2: million this year.

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Speaker 4: It was thirteen point eight. You know, it was fully

594
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Speaker 4: guaranteed because of the fifth year option.

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Speaker 2: Is that fifth year option as a first round pick.

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Speaker 2: He played every game this season, which I always find notable,

597
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Speaker 2: Like when you're you know, when you're saying season long stats,

598
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Speaker 2: you know, when you play Alex Peiris at over thousand yards,

599
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Speaker 2: he didn't even play every game, you know, So you know,

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Speaker 2: I always think that's kind of worth pointing out. He

601
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Speaker 2: played every game and if you look at his numbers,

602
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Speaker 2: he ranked eighty eighth in the NFL and sacks I

603
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Speaker 2: think it's one hundred and twenty third and tackles for

604
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Speaker 2: loss and the quarterback hit number was right in that

605
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Speaker 2: general range. I mean again, that's to me, you know,

606
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Speaker 2: kind of defines you as a defensive lineman, as consistent playmaker,

607
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Speaker 2: even if you put sacks, you know, in a different

608
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Speaker 2: category if you look at tackles for loss and you

609
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Speaker 2: look at quarterback hits. So that has definitely been a

610
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Speaker 2: miss of a draft pick when you look at that.

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Speaker 1: Here are the top five cap hits in twenty twenty

612
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Speaker 1: six for the Colts. Michael Pittman Junior has a twenty

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Speaker 1: nine million dollars cap hit for this year. DeForest Buckner

614
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Speaker 1: a twenty six point six million cap hit, Quenton Nelson

615
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Speaker 1: twenty four point two, Mooney Ward twenty point one, Bernard

616
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Speaker 1: Rayman seventeen point five, but dead cap if there were

617
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Speaker 1: to be a move made, Pittman's just five million dollars

618
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: of dead cap. The Forest Buckner still stays big at

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Speaker 1: twenty point eight, and then Quentin Nelson is a six

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Speaker 1: point two million dollar cap hit. And I only bring

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Speaker 1: that up because Michael Pittman Junior it seems like he's

622
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Speaker 1: his spot with the Colts. Is very tenuous at this

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Speaker 1: point in time.

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Speaker 4: James, Yeah, he addressed it himself after the season, like

625
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Speaker 4: literally after the season ended, and said, yeah, if this

626
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Speaker 4: is my last game as a cult, had a great

627
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Speaker 4: time here. He would like to be retained. And I

628
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 4: know people are always kind of skeptical about how real

629
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Speaker 4: that is. I mean, the man built a farm here

630
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 4: in Indiana. I know I was going to leave the farm.

631
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Speaker 4: You know, usually don't say that about a USC guy.

632
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Speaker 4: But I do feel like he really has enjoyed the

633
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 4: lifestyle of living here. So I am curious.

634
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Speaker 2: Could that be a shaking of the hands, because if

635
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Speaker 2: you are to lose again Michael Pitman junior at twenty

636
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 2: nine million caps is a ridiculous number. Let me be

637
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: very clear on that. But if you are able to

638
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: whatever get that on a more reasonable number, could that

639
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Speaker 2: be part of twenty twenty six because James, and you know,

640
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Speaker 2: I guess this gets a little bit into the eighty

641
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Speaker 2: Mitchell departure. If you were to lose Michael Pittman junior

642
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: wide receiver, really starts to go up.

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Speaker 1: In the need list.

644
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: Who are your white outs? Alec Pierce, Josh Allens and

645
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: Ashton Doolan that is way too much pressure on those

646
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: three to stay healthy and be available. And I love

647
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Speaker 2: Ashton Doolan, but asking him to play, you know, sixty

648
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: snaps as an outside wide out for seventeen weeks out

649
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: of the year, not to mention his special team's responsibilities,

650
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: is a little bit too much on his plate. So

651
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: a wide receiver would become a big need if you

652
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Speaker 2: were to move Pittman. Now, if you still had Ady Mitchell,

653
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Speaker 2: maybe whatever, that could soften it, if he would have

654
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: shown some development here. But that's just something to keep

655
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: in mind. Like you know, when you mentioned the names

656
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: of Michael Pittman junior as Ire, Franklin, Kenny Moore than second, Yeah,

657
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: a lot of those guys. I don't think. You know,

658
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: Nick cross is a free agent, you know, I think

659
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: paying two safeties is the amount of money that you

660
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: would have to if you re signed crosses a lot.

661
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: But then I'm like, who else, Like, who are the

662
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: guys ready to step up at those positions? You know,

663
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: a lot of it's I think we're going to have

664
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: to be outside of the building guys.

665
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll start asking questions of Chris Baller about

666
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: all that stuff. A little bit later on today, what's

667
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: the one thing you're really interested in hearing from him? Like,

668
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: what's your big question, James.

669
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 4: How much do you weigh the injuries and your evaluation

670
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 4: of yourself and how you built this team? Because everyone

671
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 4: above you is saying, well, we were the team that

672
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 4: was eight and two and the team that went a

673
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 4: nine and lost the last seven games of the year.

674
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 4: Isn't who we really are? Do you believe that? So

675
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: that'll be interesting debate or conversation later today. But honestly,

676
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 4: you know, sitting here talking about the Colts, I don't

677
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 4: want to forget that we're also in a more positive

678
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: time for the IU Hoosiers, who have a huge game

679
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 4: come up tomorrow against Oregon, and again Kevin going through

680
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 4: some of the media day stuff that they had to

681
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 4: do and hearing Frenanda Mendoza just say, hey, we're the underdogs.

682
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 4: I love how athletes are able to, I don't know,

683
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 4: psyche themselves out fake it till you make it type

684
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 4: of thing, because they've been such a good team all year.

685
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 4: But you better believe that Kurt Signetty has all those

686
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 4: guys believing that we're saying they're gonna lose.

687
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 3: Or something like that.

688
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 4: I don't know how you build it up and how

689
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 4: you block it out, but I just imagine for them

690
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 4: Mendoza having something in this locker that says, like, way

691
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 4: back on this day, they said this, this, this, and they.

692
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: Were such a good team.

693
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 10: James, I remember this when Georgia won their second national championship.

694
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: I think one of their players.

695
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: I don't remember that.

696
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 10: Everybody had us at seven and five, like the best

697
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 10: coaches in this sport, I feel like, find a way

698
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 10: to motivate their team.

699
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: Signetty kind of did it leading into the Rose Bull

700
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: talking about how bad a practices they had had out there,

701
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: you know, in Pasadena, So you got empty at all,

702
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: you go through the binder. Okay, where's all that att

703
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: But now I think they are a deserved favorite, and honestly,

704
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: i'd probably take them a little bit more than just

705
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: three and a half points coming up tomorrow night, you know,

706
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: kind of going back to a conversation we had earlier

707
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: in the week, I think it's vital that that defensive

708
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: line disrupts Dante Moore. And I know Texas Tech, who

709
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: Oregon just played, they have a pretty vaunted defensive line.

710
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: But I think if you let Dante Moore operate, hit

711
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: the five step, drop, pat the ball, you know, go

712
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: through his progressions, then I think you're going to see

713
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: a dude that a lot of NFL teams cove it

714
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: on Sundays. But I think if you are able to disrupt, basically,

715
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: I'd like to see Dante Moore see if he can

716
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: have the game.

717
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: C J.

718
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: Stroud had a couple years ago against Georgia in the

719
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: National Semifinal. Remember that game Ohio State Georgia When CJ.

720
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: Stroud literally, and I know it sounds weird to say,

721
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: but Ohio State has some injuries, he literally put that

722
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: Ohio State team on his back. Yeah, he's solutely one

723
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: of the more impressive individual performances we've seen. I thought

724
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: that kind of cemented for me, at least his status

725
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: in the NFL. For Dante Moore, I think it's still

726
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: a okay, show me that, you know, the end of

727
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: the Iowa game. There's more of that and there, And

728
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: part of it is just he hasn't had a ton

729
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: of opportunity. But I also don't think Oregon's been put

730
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: in a ton of conflict. Indiana certainly put them into conflict,

731
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 2: and he got sacks six times and threw for whatever

732
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: it was sixty percent. Had one of his worst games,

733
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: if not the worst game of his career. So that,

734
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: I think is goal number one. You know, can you

735
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: put Dante Moore into some Hey that first read, that

736
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: second read, it ain't there for you. How are you

737
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:50,959
Speaker 2: going to operate?

738
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 4: How about this too? I was reading this in Front

739
00:32:53,560 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 4: Office Sports. Mark Cuban very famous. I you graduate told

740
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 4: the Front Office Sports in an email that he donated

741
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 4: another big portion to Hoosiers and inil all those types

742
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 4: of things to help them in the portal. So again,

743
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 4: I think what we're witnessing right now is very fun

744
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 4: to think of in the moment, and I definitely want

745
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 4: to live in it because this is crazy. This team

746
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 4: can go undefeated and pull off what would be I

747
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 4: can't even say it's like Hoosiers. It would be Hoosiers

748
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 4: on steroids when it comes to this actually happening as

749
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 4: far as movie type of endings, but within that they're

750
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 4: still building and retooling for next year. I mean, you

751
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 4: think about Fernanda Mendoza, he was a transfer portal guy,

752
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 4: and then you have Mark Huban saying, well, you know

753
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 4: this was great investment last year, Let's go back and

754
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 4: do it again. And all he would say when it

755
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 4: was asked what dollar amount he gave, he kept that

756
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 4: to himself, but he said, let's just say they are

757
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 4: happier this year than last year. Boy, that is exciting

758
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 4: times for IU fans.

759
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I don't know Scott Nelson necessarily to

760
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: this to us directly, but you know, I believe there

761
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: are some whatever whispers there that you know, you go

762
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 2: down to Bloomington and some of that money that might

763
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: be on one side of the parking lot north of

764
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: seventeenth is now going to maybe more of the west

765
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: side of the parking lot, if my geography is right

766
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: down there. So uh yeah, I mean, and I think

767
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 2: you saw it from what I mean, what's the rumor

768
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: on that TCU quarterback? Like four million bucks?

769
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: It's a lot of money. I mean a lot of money.

770
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 4: This is the age we're living here, and it's freaking wild.

771
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 4: Why generational wealth before you get your degree.

772
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm still fascinated to see what's going to happen with

773
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 1: the Washington quarterback who signed a contract with the team

774
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: last week and then over the weekends, Like yeah, I'm

775
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: gonna leave. I want to go, and Washington's like, oh no,

776
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: you're not. We have a signed piece of paper right

777
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: here and we're holding it to it. It'll be fascinating

778
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: to see how that plays out.

779
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: The preseason poll, Oregon is rank seven, Miami ten, IU

780
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 2: twenty old, Miss twenty one. I think the last time

781
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: we got to the final four and we've got nobody

782
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: from the pre season top five.

783
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: And I think that's indicative of what we're talking.

784
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: Crazy too. I didn't think about that.

785
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 2: Well, because don't you think those those only still one

786
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: in the top I guess nine. When you look at Oregon,

787
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: don't you think that those rankings still reflects somewhere a

788
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: deep seated bias of voters with brand names and past

789
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: history and things like that. Yeah, I mean I think

790
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: with IU, there was a hey, let's see them do

791
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: it again, certainly there. Yeah, I think that's probably fair.

792
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: I mean Miami lost camp Ward, granted, Carson Beck was

793
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: pretty covered in the old transfer of portal.

794
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when we start talking about what Indiana did

795
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: to Oregon, and when I say did that, yes, they

796
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: gave it up the pick six, they still won by

797
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: double digits on the road in Eugene, and that defense

798
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: had two takeaways, they had six sacks. But it's indicative

799
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: of everything they've done all year long going into this game. Nationally,

800
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: Indiana is number two in points allowed in the entire country,

801
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: number two in rush yards allow, number two in total

802
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: yards allowed, number one in red zone defense. They are

803
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: for real. This defense is probably clearly the best defense

804
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 1: overall in college football right now, James, and they've proven

805
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: it week after week after week. That's what Oregon's gonna

806
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: have to overcome.

807
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's why I'm not buying the underdog talk.

808
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 4: It's a nice bulletin board point, but in here, in reality,

809
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 4: that team is very, very good, and they're very I

810
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: think at this point experience too.

811
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 3: I get there from a Mendoza came over.

812
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 4: This is one year at IU, but you got a

813
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: lot of players here who came over with Signetti during

814
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 4: that first year transition, and now you're seeing the fruits

815
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 4: of that labor. So I'm excited for it and I'm

816
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 4: looking forward to as you have laid out this week, Kevin,

817
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 4: a lot of football because it starts tonight, doesn't until

818
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 4: Monday night, and you're looking at if you're a college

819
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 4: an NFL fan, I mean, you gotta, I guess, come

820
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 4: up with some excuses. If you're unlike me, you got

821
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 4: the misses and the kids. You gotta figure out ways

822
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 4: to keep the tube going.

823
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: Hey, if you got a significant other, you did date

824
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 2: night early early in the week, because date night can't

825
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: be happening again until this time next week.

826
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: Hey, you and I are very lucky, you with Maddie

827
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: and me with Christine because they get what we do

828
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: for a living, and they're also sports fans. That helps, right, I.

829
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 3: Was gonna say, is is Maddie? Is she a huge She's.

830
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: Enough of a sports fan she gets into it, like

831
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: you know, I'm I don't think she's going you know,

832
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 2: she's not like why isn't Big ten network on last night?

833
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: I don't think she's going out necessarily, But you know

834
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: she is a very proud eye you grad and again

835
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 2: you know her family is very into this IU football run.

836
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: So yes, she is definitely. You know, she'll be she'll

837
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 2: be clapping, she'll be she'll be loud on a third down.

838
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't say she's going You know, she's not

839
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: on peaks dot com necessarily, but they get.

840
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: What we do.

841
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 4: She was looking at the twenty four seven sports rankings

842
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 4: to figure out, you know, questions.

843
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: She's already looking ahead to what the cults might do

844
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: in the second round. This best, this is coming. There's

845
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: no Christine's the same except for the Green Bay Packers.

846
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: So she will always stop what she's doing for the

847
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. And you know what, during this run,

848
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: she stops what she's doing to watch Indiana. Yes, Matti

849
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: came home from something the other day and she was

850
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: a few minutes late watching the game. She made me

851
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: rack it back to the beginning and watch it every

852
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 1: single play from the very beginning.

853
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: Maddie was unfamiliar with who Martha the mop Lady was.

854
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 2: For our IU faithful out there, Martha the mop Lady

855
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: certainly very iconic figure in IU athletics. She was on

856
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: her parents' flight out to the Rose Bull and they

857
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: took a picture with Martha, and Maddie was a little

858
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: confused on who Martha from Bloomington was, So that probably

859
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: goes to show you where her are you is that? Well,

860
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: one thing I do want to note from that Texas

861
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: Tech game, because you know, again, I watched a lot

862
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: of that on New Year's Day that Oregon Texas Tech game,

863
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: and one thing I was very impressed by was Organ's

864
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: D line, and so I think it's vital for Indiana,

865
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: which has been one of their more consistent themes throughout,

866
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: is you know, just maintaining that balance, making sure that

867
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 2: they do run it effectively. And again comparing for Nando Mendoza,

868
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 2: the Texas Tech quarterback is probably Ludacris, so I don't

869
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: think Indiana has that going for them, but just making

870
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: sure you stay out of some of the obvious situations.

871
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: Oregon's D line, that's a group that can get humming,

872
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: and they definitely got after the Texas Tech kid good

873
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 2: amount and really set up some short fields in that game.

874
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: It was really an ugly game. Oregon Texas Tech very

875
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: sloppy on both sides of it. I mean, Oregon had's

876
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: some issues as well offensively handling snaps and stuff like that.

877
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: So you know, that is something just to keep an eye.

878
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: On, and it is going to be fun to watch

879
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: Tonight one semifinals seven thirty tomorrow, Indiana plays at seven

880
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: thirty on ESPN. Both those games are going to be

881
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: fun to watch, no question. John m writes in a two, three, nine, ten, seventy.

882
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: If this team had the resume and everything that they've

883
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: done this year, and they had Alabama or Ohio State's

884
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: logo next to it, we'd be talking about this being

885
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: one of the greatest college football teams of all time.

886
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: That defense is already I just gave you the stats

887
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: right now. They're just owning all of college football and

888
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 1: the clutch GENI certainly been there for the offense every

889
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: time they've needed to. They've responded with a drive to score,

890
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: to either get back in the game, take the lead

891
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: in the game, or put a game away every single

892
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: time so far this year.

893
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't. I don't know if I'm ready for the

894
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: conversation of like you know, they rank on the great

895
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: pantheon of college football.

896
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: Team started that discussion on his podcast this week.

897
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I'll just sit here in the present

898
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: of I can't wait for tomorrow night.

899
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, one win it all for it.

900
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: But I will say, I mean Joe Burrows LSU team

901
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: is probably the first one that comes to mind, and

902
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: that was a pretty darn good football team. I feel

903
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: like when you get in those conversations, you ultimately have

904
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: to like nitpick an unbelievable story. And I just yeah,

905
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: I'm not like.

906
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: And they've got work to do here still two games away.

907
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know if necessarily whatever Penn State, Iowa. Yeah,

908
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: I don't really want to entertain that convo. I'm just

909
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 2: ready to see tomorrow night and I fully expect them

910
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: to win, and I think they'll win by, you know,

911
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: more than the spread.

912
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. Bear was hanging off for the line

913
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: for a minute, had to get going. If he wants

914
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: to call back, we can try to get him in

915
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 1: that moda come in your way at eight thirty this morning,

916
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: like the bear. That's what he said, right, Caleb, A.

917
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 7: Literal bear is on the line, shout out bark.

918
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: So that's where we're headed today. A lot of comments

919
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: on the Colts right now. Anonymous says Michael Pittman may

920
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: not be an All Pro receiver, but he is a

921
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: valuable football player, very good support player. Radio station similarly

922
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: has one recognized All Pro journalists, James Boyd, and two

923
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: adequate supporters. So do you get rid of them? My

924
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: point is, well, Michael, can we go through that again?

925
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: Did you write? Is that your burner right there? Boyd?

926
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 4: Run that back because I was the first part like

927
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 4: a common radio station.

928
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: Similarly, he has one recognized all pro journalists, James Boyd,

929
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: and two adequate supporters.

930
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: So do you get rid of them?

931
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't believe Kevin and I make

932
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: twenty nine million dollars a year.

933
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: They got to take a smoke break here during the

934
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: break after reading that, So you know my respect Jeff

935
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: Adie Mitchell, Right, I mean, you know that's obvious. Who

936
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 2: would I be? James and I am? I Coleman owen

937
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: to my lakwan treadwell the desire Franklin.

938
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 7: Boy I say, dueling, I'll give you a little more

939
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 7: credit than the starting rule.

940
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: Starting for his action. Caleb Well, I'm gonna give you

941
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: a hugger in the heres.

942
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: Are from the similar area in Illinois.

943
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: Shout out to but that the issue for Michael Pittman

944
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: isn't what he brings in what he does. It's what

945
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: his capit is going to be in the second half

946
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: of his career, and they're trying to balance all these contracts.

947
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: That's the problem. That's not that anybody doesn't like Michael Pittman,

948
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: but he's too expensive at this point.

949
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 2: Right, I mean he's not a twenty nine million dollar player.

950
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 2: That is quite I think obvious to anybody out there.

951
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: But again, if he were to leave for whatever reason,

952
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: you know, whiteout becomes somewhere on that need list. I

953
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: don't think it's necessarily one or two on the need list,

954
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 2: but you know the way I mean Alec Pierce Unfortunately,

955
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: he's had a couple concussions pop up, So yeah, it

956
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 2: would be something you'd have to toss on the old

957
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: off season priority list.

958
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk more about the Colts coming up

959
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: in just a moment. Also more on Indiana getting ready

960
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: for a semi final game against Oregon tomorrow night. Pacers

961
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: trying to turn it around tonight against the Hornets. It's

962
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: all coming your way next. It's ninety three five and

963
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: one o seven five the fan, Good morning, and speaking

964
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: of the fan, later on tonight, it'll be the Hornets

965
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: and Pacers becoming your way this evening, looking forward to

966
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: that pregame at six thirty tip at seven o'clock. We'll

967
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: see if the Pacers can get off the snide as

968
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: they like to say, and we'll continue talking about the

969
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: Colts and Chris Ballard's got a press conference coming up

970
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: at eleven o'clock this morning. I want to get back

971
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: to Indiana and Oregon, which is coming up tomorrow night, guys.

972
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: And we've talked all about Indiana and the success they've

973
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 1: had and the surprise and all those kinds of things.

974
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: What's also been fun to watch, Kevin are the the alumni,

975
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: the players that have played in the past, even going

976
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: back to when they were with the Bill Mallory and

977
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: went to a couple of bowl games. I think they

978
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: went the last time they went to the Peach Bowl.

979
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: Bill Mallory was the head coach there. Trent Green prior

980
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: to to Fernando mendezho win in the Heisman Trophy. Is

981
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: Trent Green one of the two or three best quarterbacks

982
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: that Indiana has ever had?

983
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would assume I mean Antoine Randellell of course

984
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy vote getter. I think he finished sixth maybe

985
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: when he was playing in Indiana, but obviously from an

986
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: NFL career.

987
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, pretty good stuff. So he was. He was

988
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,959
Speaker 1: talking on Sirius XM the other day about what it's

989
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: meant to guys like him that has certainly been Indiana

990
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: fans all this time, and we've lived through all the

991
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: struggles and wore the uniform and what it's been like

992
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: to see the turnaround in the state of where Indiana

993
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: is at this point in time.

994
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 5: When I was there, you know, we went to we

995
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 5: went to a handful of ball games, and Bill Mallory

996
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 5: is is loved in the state of Indiana and at

997
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 5: Indiana University for you know, at that time, that was

998
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 5: like the success of the program was kind of that era,

999
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 5: that Bill Mallory era and some of the guys that

1000
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 5: I played with, and you know, it was you know,

1001
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 5: it's pretty cool. You know, we all, we all you know,

1002
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 5: there's different group texts and emails and guys are reaching

1003
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 5: out and you know, the fact of what's going on

1004
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 5: in the last couple of years and no, so to

1005
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 5: answer your question, no, none of us, none of us

1006
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 5: can really believe it. And I think, you know, I

1007
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 5: think when you sit and you listen to to Kurt

1008
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 5: to Signetty when he's doing his interviews, and he said,

1009
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 5: you know, I had to change the mindset not only

1010
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 5: of the team, I had to change the mindset of

1011
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 5: the university because the university used to be like when

1012
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 5: I went there, it was, Hey, we want to try

1013
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 5: and get to a bowl game, and if we're able

1014
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 5: to make it to the Rose Bowl, that would be great.

1015
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 5: So the goal was always the Rose Bowl because back

1016
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 5: then the Big Ten champion would go to the Rose Bowl.

1017
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 5: So it was, you know, hey, let's let's make a

1018
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 5: bowl game number one, and then if it's the Rose Bowl,

1019
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 5: you know, then that's that's the ultimate. Well, there was

1020
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 5: never hey, we're going to try and be a top

1021
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 5: ten team. We're gonna try and be the number one

1022
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 5: team in the country. Where you know, those kinds of things.

1023
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 5: And when you listen to Kurt talk in the different

1024
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 5: interviews that he's had, he talks about that mindset and

1025
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 5: trying to not only change the players and the coaches

1026
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 5: in the athletic department, but change the university, changed the state,

1027
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 5: and change the country. In the way that they look

1028
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 5: at Indiana football, it says a lot about him and

1029
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 5: and a lot about the university and how they've redone

1030
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 5: his contract a couple of times now to keep him

1031
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 5: because there are a lot of teams uh one, uh

1032
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 5: hundred percent trying to come get him and and to

1033
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 5: duplicate what he's been able to do in Bloomington and

1034
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 5: uh so give credit to the university, uh for for

1035
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 5: you know, re upping him before it got to that point.

1036
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 5: But also give him credit because he definitely could get

1037
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,439
Speaker 5: more money somewhere else, but he found found a home

1038
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 5: in Indiana. He loves what the university does in terms

1039
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 5: of support, and uh, yeah, we this is uh what's

1040
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 5: happened in the last two seasons and especially this season. Yeah,

1041
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 5: we none of us saw this coming.

1042
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: A lot of fun for everyone involved. And I like

1043
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: the fact that, look, Kurtzignetti is the guy driving this thing,

1044
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: there is no question about that. But he's gotten support

1045
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: from President Pam Whitten and from Scott Dolson and from

1046
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: boosters like Mark Cuban. It really is turning into kind

1047
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: of the perfect storm right now.

1048
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 8: Kevin.

1049
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we I mean we had and by

1050
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 2: the way, I think Trent Green might join us next week.

1051
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 2: Mark was saying on that Sean McDonough tomorrow at this

1052
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: very segment, eight am tomorrow, he's on the call, him

1053
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: and Greg McRoy which that's my favorite crew honestly from

1054
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: a college football standpoint. They'll have the call coming up

1055
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: tomorrow night there from Atlanta. But yeah, I mean, you

1056
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 2: think back to you I think we had Dan Wet's,

1057
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: a longtime college football rider, on a few weeks back

1058
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: or maybe a few months ago at this point, and

1059
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: you know, he had the line of he was the

1060
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: perfect coach at the perfect time, and I think that

1061
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 2: is an important kind of part in all of this

1062
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: of you know, Kurt signetti track record is obviously you know,

1063
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: speaks for itself. But you know, he's able to get

1064
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: all the JMU guys to come with him if you

1065
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: make that higher when you hired you know whatever, you know,

1066
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 2: Terry Hepner or Tom Allen or Kevin Wilson or no,

1067
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: that's just not how the landscape of college football works.

1068
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: So you know, and obviously the JAM you guys deserve

1069
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 2: a ton of credit for you know, what they have done,

1070
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 2: especially last year. Obviously they're still a huge part of

1071
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 2: this core. But then you know, without last year's success,

1072
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: I don't think Fernando Mendoz is necessarily you know, front

1073
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 2: and center.

1074
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: Helped that.

1075
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: His brother, of course is on the roster and he

1076
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 2: had a connection there. But now it's turned into oh wow,

1077
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: I use got financial backing that people. I don't know

1078
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: if they fully realized around the nation that they would

1079
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 2: have a supportive football program and in an era that

1080
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: you know really is frankly just a lot of capitalism.

1081
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: It's just like I said, perfect storm. You've explained it

1082
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: very well, and James, I know you became a believer

1083
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: when they got the ALLIONI but honestly, this team you

1084
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: start to look at him, and they've dominated line of

1085
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: scrimmage on both sides of the ball against virtually every

1086
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: team they've played. Their skill position players. I've said this before.

1087
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,479
Speaker 1: When you look at the two running backs, the three

1088
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: top receivers, they're as good as any skill position group

1089
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: in the country. You got the Heisman Trophy winner for

1090
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: goodness sakes, at quarterback, all the metrics I pointed out

1091
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: in the last hour about being a top five defense

1092
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: in so many different categories and number one in a

1093
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 1: couple of categories. I know they still have two games

1094
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: to win, and there's a lot of work to be done,

1095
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: and there are one hundred and twenty minutes away. I

1096
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: get all that. You still have to go win and

1097
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: not make mistakes and keep doing what you're doing. But objectively,

1098
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: they're the best team in the country to this point

1099
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: in time, James, they just are.

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00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 3: For sure.

1101
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 4: I'm actually looking at Dangelo Pond's his bio on the

1102
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 4: IU website and there's a photo of him. He must

1103
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 4: have had a pick or something against Illinois and him

1104
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 4: in the end zone with some Illinois player on the

1105
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 4: ground looking very defeated.

1106
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: And I'm bringing to say, boyd on the back of

1107
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: the jersey there no, uh nah, okay, I.

1108
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 4: Ain't playing no football. Mama made sure I didn't even

1109
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 4: take charges in high school. Was the kid lying to

1110
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 4: my coach? Yeah, all slide over next time. Never was

1111
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 4: gonna do that. But diegel Pons, I think he's another

1112
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 4: player that when I look at what he brings to

1113
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 4: this defense, in particular, a game changer. Kevin and the

1114
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 4: man is five nine, one seventy three listed on the

1115
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 4: roster here. He plays like he's built of I don't know,

1116
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 4: like steal because he just goes and puts guys on

1117
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 4: the ground.

1118
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: And knock Ty Simpson out of the game right.

1119
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it made him fumble, And so again, when

1120
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 4: you think of from a physicality standpoint, he's the type

1121
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 4: of guy that brings that that extra edge, that brings

1122
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 4: that extra dynamic to the game. And it's exciting to watch.

1123
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 4: But Also they're discipline. So when I'm watching IU, even

1124
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 4: if because for example, the Ty Simpson play was a

1125
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 4: first down run and in your mind, that's a defeat

1126
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 4: for the defense at least in that moment. You let

1127
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 4: this guy get loose, he turns it up field, they

1128
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 4: get a little momentum, and at that time they did

1129
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 4: have momentum, and they're still playing to the absolute end

1130
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 4: of the play, rallying to the ball, and then here

1131
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 4: he is with a game changing play. So that mentality,

1132
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 4: the ability to finish. I was actually reading about this

1133
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 4: in the Athletic and they caught up with I have

1134
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 4: to look it up now, but the IU defensive backs coach,

1135
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 4: and he was talking about how him and Kurt Signetti

1136
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 4: were like getting on their players even though they were

1137
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 4: up against Alabama, like no, no, no, no, no, we can't drop

1138
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 4: off because the game is lopsided. We're not gonna have

1139
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 4: bad habits because the game is lopsided. I'm gonna let

1140
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 4: you do anything out of character because we're up by

1141
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 4: a million, because those moments turn into we might need

1142
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 4: you in a week if somebody goes down and we're

1143
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 4: trying to, you know, close this thing out.

1144
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 3: In a bigger game. So from that standard, it's very impressive.

1145
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you brought up earlier in the week. I

1146
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 2: think if there is one area where I think Oregon

1147
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 2: can certainly make this a game, it is the ability

1148
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 2: to if you give Dante more time, throw the ball

1149
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 2: down the field. Yeah, and you know, we have seen

1150
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: not not very often, but we have seen an occasional

1151
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 2: defensive laps for Indiana this season on that back end.

1152
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: So I do think that probably would be one question

1153
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 2: uh here coming up tomorrow night for Indiana. But you know, again,

1154
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 2: I had to go defensive line. H is able to disrupt,

1155
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: you know, things enough even without Stephen Daily for that

1156
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: to be not too much of a word at all.

1157
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: So if you're making your commute down to Atlanta right now,

1158
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 2: thank you first off for listening to us and give

1159
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: us a call. Three one seven seventy Wings.

1160
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: Magic City.

1161
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Levin Pepper, Hey, Lou Williams left the bubble to try.

1162
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: Those wins, so you met you imagine what the buffet

1163
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: could look like they're before the game. I'm just saying, man,

1164
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: that's the ultimate pregame, right, I'd.

1165
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: Forgotten about that in the bubble. Going to get Wings

1166
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: you got kicked out, didn't he.

1167
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 4: You got I think you had to go quarantine for

1168
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 4: a while. But hey again, just you.

1169
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: Quarantine a magic city boy, you might experience a few

1170
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: things and something more than COVID.

1171
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 1: John M. Tickston, how many of the skill position players

1172
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: have a legitimate NFL future six. We're not used to

1173
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: seeing this kind of talent.

1174
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: Well, certainly both those you know, first two wide outs.

1175
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: We've talked with Dan Brugler from the Athletic about it.

1176
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: You know, Omar Cooper Junior he mentioned, is you know,

1177
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 2: kind of a top one hundred guy.

1178
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 3: He's a Day two guy.

1179
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: Elijah Surat I think would fall maybe just past that.

1180
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I'm very impressed by the running backs.

1181
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 2: And you know, obviously Charlie Becker's still a young dude.

1182
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 2: And Charlie Becker, you know, we talk about, you know,

1183
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 2: his emergence. I mean we're talking about a dude that

1184
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: was a Tennessee state champion in the hurdles, and I

1185
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: think you see that athleticism, that.

1186
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: Jump in, that leaping catch in the end zone.

1187
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you see that on the field with him. I mean,

1188
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 2: that's no joke when you are you know, I don't

1189
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: care what state it is, but if you're a state

1190
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: track champion and really any event in particular the hurdles,

1191
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 2: you obviously have a ton of athleticism there. So yes,

1192
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 2: this is a team that you know, I want to say.

1193
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 2: Dane mentioned that of all the teams in college football

1194
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 2: right now, I think he believes Indiana could be third

1195
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 2: on the list for draft picks coming up in April,

1196
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: which obviously tells you a whole lot about player development

1197
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: and Sunday, you know eyes that you are tracking there,

1198
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: and it's not just the number one overall pick, it's

1199
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 2: you know, Carter Smith, the left tackle, it's some of

1200
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 2: those guys on the defensive side of the ball. Obviously

1201
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 2: those whiteouts as well.

1202
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was mentioned. The matchupredictor at ESPN dot com

1203
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: says IU with a seventy point four percent chance to

1204
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 1: win this football game after they run the thousands of

1205
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: simulations that they run, for whatever that's worth. But the

1206
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: three and a half points spread, I know you're not.

1207
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: You don't partake in a lot of this stuff, James,

1208
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: But if you did, how enticing is that three and

1209
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: a half point spread that Indiana's favored by just more

1210
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: than a field goal right now, Yeah, I.

1211
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 3: Think you take that.

1212
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 4: I think they're they're they're good enough to beat this

1213
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 4: thing by a touchdown, honestly, So not the betting type.

1214
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 4: And I'm certainly glad I didn't bet on the IU

1215
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 4: Illinois game earlier this year. But yeah, they are the

1216
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 4: betting favorite, right, aren't they the betting favorites to win

1217
00:54:58,880 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 4: it all at this point?

1218
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: So ten bucks to win twelve said yesterday.

1219
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 3: You're not going to be up, you know, not going

1220
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 3: to be underdogs in that regard.

1221
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing to keep in mind, just got to

1222
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: keep keep that offensive line intact and keep that that

1223
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: Oregon passwords which has had success at times in some

1224
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: of their games. They got a couple of dudes they

1225
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: can get to the quarterback. That's the one thing if

1226
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: you're Indiana, you just want to keep minimizing the turnovers,

1227
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 1: which they've been great at all year long, and keep

1228
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: Mendoza cleaning up pocket more often than not. And I

1229
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: think that's a really good recipe for winning against this

1230
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: Oregon team.

1231
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 2: Well, and Mendoza, I thought some key scrambles against Alabama,

1232
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,959
Speaker 2: And again, it's maybe not the most aesthetically beautiful looking

1233
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: thing but he can be effective when it comes to that.

1234
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: And so you know, if and when those things happen,

1235
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 2: because I do think Organ's d line certainly to deserve

1236
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: some credit, those will be key just to extend drives,

1237
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: be methodical. Uh you know, I go back to that

1238
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 2: second drive against Alabama. You know, the first drive they

1239
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,959
Speaker 2: get the three and out, Mendoza sack twice I think,

1240
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 2: and then opening Bamo, it's a short field. Great work

1241
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: by your defense not to allow anything, but then they

1242
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 2: pen you back. And that's another one of those kind

1243
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: of dangerous opportunities. If it's early in the game, it's

1244
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 2: zero zero, who knows, and yet you know here they

1245
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 2: are can burn a couple third downs, just kind of

1246
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 2: methodically move their way down the field. Next thing you know,

1247
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 2: it's like an eighty yard scoring drive and now it's

1248
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 2: game on. So uh, you know those you know, parts

1249
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 2: of the game obviously will be huge.

1250
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just want to play out Indiana's defense

1251
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,479
Speaker 1: again for those who missed it in the first hour,

1252
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: and then maybe many of you have heard it already,

1253
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 1: but man points allowed second in the nation, yards allowed

1254
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: second in the nation, sacks fifth in the nation, forty

1255
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: two times this year, and six of those forty two

1256
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: came against Oregon the first time around Kevin. They can

1257
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: get after you, man, they can certainly get after you.

1258
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 1: So it'll be uh, it'll be fun to watch tomorrow night.

1259
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: Of course, the first game tonight Ole Miss taking on Miami.

1260
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: That one comes away seven thirty pm on ESPN. And

1261
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: I really liked watching Chamberis that game against Georgia. I

1262
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: knew of him and watched some highlights of him this year.

1263
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: That's the first chance I really had to watch almost

1264
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: an entire game of him. He is I use the

1265
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: sword a lot, but for players that I like, he's

1266
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 1: electric as that quarterback. And he's trying to get he's

1267
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: trying to petition the NCAA to get one more year

1268
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: of eligibility so he can go back to Ole Miss. Yeah.

1269
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 4: I don't understand anything when it comes to the rules

1270
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 4: of college football. Should he get an extra year, should

1271
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 4: he not? Who's paid, who's not binding agreements? I don't

1272
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 4: know anymore, but I will say this for the IU purposes.

1273
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if anybody's trying to get out of

1274
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 4: their contract that they signed without you.

1275
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: No, everybody's trying to get here right now.

1276
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 10: So I wonder who America's team is. Is it IU

1277
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 10: or is it Ole Miss? Like I know we're in

1278
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 10: this bubble here in Indiana, but I wonder who the

1279
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 10: majority of America is rooting for because both are kind

1280
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 10: of underdog stories in their own right, don't you think?

1281
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, both are great stories.

1282
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 4: I was gonna say I might actually lean towards Ole

1283
00:57:59,080 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 4: Miss in that regard.

1284
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 3: Are Caleb because of the hatred.

1285
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: For lang Kiff?

1286
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that seems universal and there's different stories. But

1287
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 4: with Lane Kiffin up and leaving them in the middle

1288
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 4: of what could be their best season ever and then

1289
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 4: all the hoopla every single week about you know, assistance,

1290
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 4: leaving players whatever. As I've always said in these airwaves,

1291
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 4: hate is very unifying and sports hate is very unifying.

1292
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 4: So I think that when you look at this, you

1293
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 4: could when is there ever a common enemy?

1294
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 3: I hate this team, I hate this coach too.

1295
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 4: You can watch that and feel good about you know,

1296
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 4: what Ole Miss is doing and it is an incredible

1297
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 4: story and I don't want to gloss over that.

1298
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: And not just okay, so you have the coaching side

1299
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 2: of it, which is wild. The hatred of Kiffin are

1300
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 2: these assistants at LSU. Are they not at LSU? Are

1301
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 2: they boarding the plane to go to the fiestaval or.

1302
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 3: Winning with spinning elbow grease?

1303
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: I mean it was just wild drama. But the Chambliss

1304
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 2: story is wild. I mean, this dude played at Fairest State.

1305
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 2: I mean, at one point, like you, Indy's biggest rival,

1306
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 2: felt like it was Fairris State. Can you imagine going

1307
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 2: to Key Stadium on a Saturday afternoon and watching you

1308
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: Indian Farris State and be like, oh man, that Fairris

1309
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: State quarterback and make a few plays, and now we're

1310
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: watching them in the national title game potentially a week

1311
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 2: from monday. I mean that the Chambliss story is rather

1312
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 2: unheard of, you know when you look at it from

1313
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 2: that aspect to it. And of course old miss Lost

1314
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 2: are starting quarterback, you know, in September, and you know,

1315
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: I feel like he's kind of taking his game to

1316
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 2: another level. I know he's had a few comments about

1317
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 2: you know, early in the season. His thought process was, Hey,

1318
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 2: I just need to you know, keep the ship afloat

1319
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 2: here and we've got you know, great running back, et cetera,

1320
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: et cetera. And now it's like, wait a minute, I've

1321
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 2: got some playmaking to my game. I'm gonna open it up.

1322
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 2: And hell you saw that certainly in their Sugar Bowl win.

1323
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: All right, So the semifinals coming away tonight and tomorrow night,

1324
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun to watch both of those games, obviously,

1325
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: especially tomorrow night. Chris Ballard meeting with the media later

1326
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: on today at eleven a m. Just to remind people

1327
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: too this coming year there, if everything stays the same,

1328
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: they have their first pick will be the forty seventh overall, Kevin,

1329
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: Where did they.

1330
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 2: End up in Round one, sixteen seventeen around there? Is

1331
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 2: that where the Jets.

1332
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think fifteen or sixteen doubles.

1333
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 2: Ended up getting the first round pick there, so yeah,

1334
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 2: and they don't have their sixth rounder either, so they

1335
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 2: should get a couple of late compensatory picks. But basically

1336
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 2: you're looking at which very rare for Ballard. You're gonna

1337
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 2: go into a draft with your two, three, four, and five,

1338
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 2: and then again we'll see where the compicks play out.

1339
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 2: But that's where I do think they should explore. Can

1340
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: you move veterans for some extra draft pick? Sixteen sixteen?

1341
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 2: That's so the Jets are.

1342
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: Right smack in the middle, Kevin with an eight and

1343
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: nine record.

1344
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 2: There it is are for the course, right, We're uh,

1345
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 2: We're kind of used to that.

1346
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: So that'll be later on today and for those of

1347
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: you asking, we will carry at least the first few

1348
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: minutes of that press comp and to see what Chris

1349
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: Ballard has to say. And I just wonder we're running

1350
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: everything back again. Is this press conference just to rerun

1351
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: James of what we've seen the last couple of years.

1352
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 4: I think in certain aspects it will be that. But

1353
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 4: in other cases maybe not, just because of the success

1354
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,919
Speaker 4: you had earlier in the year in twenty twenty five,

1355
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 4: because the way you got to aid to nine was

1356
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 4: different than how you got to aid nine year before.

1357
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 4: I think that's probably something we have to address. I

1358
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 4: don't want to act like it changes a whole lot

1359
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 4: from the overall outcome, because missing the playoffs for a

1360
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 4: fifth straight year can't be dismissed. But again, I'm curious

1361
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 4: to know Kevin how much he weighs the idea of

1362
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 4: thinking we're this first half team that's who we really are,

1363
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 4: versus the second half team when the injuries were a

1364
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 4: big part of why you collapse, but not the only

1365
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 4: reason why you collapse.

1366
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 2: If John Harbaugh called carl ERSA Gordon today and said

1367
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 2: I want to be your head coach and I want

1368
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 2: personnel control, what would she say?

1369
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 4: She would probably say no, I think because she's already

1370
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 4: made a decision on the current regime.

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01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 3: But she should if he would call say yes, I.

1372
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Speaker 1: Know what the text line wants. I know what the

1373
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: answer to that question.

1374
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 2: The text line already made a decision, or because the

1375
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 2: financial ramifications of such a move.

1376
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Speaker 1: Probably both. I mean, he's going to be a man,

1377
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: that's a good question. He's a twenty million dollars a

1378
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: year head coach.

1379
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,439
Speaker 2: At this point, the head coach is making twenty million.

1380
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I put that down the other day. Maybe he's

1381
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen, but he's Yeah, they make money.

1382
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 3: The official numbers, that's the estimate.

1383
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: Definitely some of the business, but it's definitely updated.

1384
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 4: And so I do think it's a factor. Kevin and

1385
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 4: I don't want to act like money is not a factor.

1386
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 4: It always is. Money is the factor in nine to

1387
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 4: nine percent of our lives, it feels like, and definitely

1388
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 4: in pro sports. But if you had to put it

1389
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 4: on scale of one to ten, where are you, I

1390
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 4: guess putting it Kevin, because she dismissed it pretty quickly

1391
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 4: and says she was willing to do whatever it takes to,

1392
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 4: you know, help this team went in obviously to be

1393
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 4: fair to Carly. There's only one way you can answer

1394
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 4: that question publicly.

1395
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: I saw a couple of sites. John Harbaugh made seventeen

1396
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: million dollars last year, damn andy.

1397
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 4: Re People are like, why would you Like for example,

1398
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 4: when Ben Johnson left the Lions and went to the

1399
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 4: Bears and it was rough, early, people were like, well,

1400
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 4: why would you leave the Lions because you got a

1401
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 4: whole lot of money guaranteed you to go be.

1402
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 3: The head coach.

1403
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: He's making thirteen million a years, so but almost signety

1404
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: money one to ten.

1405
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I I things that feel uneducated talking about James

1406
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 2: medical injuries and you know, pro ownership finances.

1407
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:48,439
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

1408
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 2: I just feel pretty uneducated when it comes to some

1409
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 2: of that stuff. But I just I feel like it's

1410
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 2: a little bit more of a factor than maybe we

1411
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 2: think it is. It's probably the simplest way I can

1412
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 2: put it. Again, I don't have strong conviction necessarily a

1413
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 2: deciding factor.

1414
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 3: Right, money is always a factor.

1415
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 2: I just think there's a little bit more smoke behind

1416
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 2: that than maybe, I don't know, maybe people do realize it,

1417
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I just feel like there's a

1418
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 2: little bit more there than maybe is there in every

1419
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 2: other NFL city. It's probably the best way I can

1420
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 2: put it.

1421
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:21,959
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll talk more about all this a little

1422
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: bit later on. In the meantime, let's check it down.

1423
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: Had the Big Ten college basketball double header on last night.

1424
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: First game, Indiana beats Maryland eighty four sixty six. Lamar

1425
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: Wilks has scored twenty four points. Tayton Connorway nineteen points,

1426
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: eight rebounds. Connor right, your guy, you call him Joe

1427
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: Dirt sixteen points, Covin read Bailey fifteen point six rebounds.

1428
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: They are now twelve and three, three and one of

1429
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: the Big Ten. They will play a big game at

1430
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: Assembly tomorrow. I'm sorry, Saturday against Nebraska at noon. I

1431
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: wanted this to be Friday, so bad, A.

1432
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 2: Big home game against Nebraska. Well, we have a big

1433
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 2: IU football game on ja January ninth, and we have

1434
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 2: a big home basketball game against Nebraska. What year is this?

1435
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 2: What planet are we on? What are they do you

1436
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 2: believe in real life on other planets.

1437
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: I don't know you do believe in shifting timelines because

1438
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: we might be in one.

1439
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 4: Well, I'll say this, if there is other life out there,

1440
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 4: they're not coming here to pay bills with us, so

1441
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 4: they'll stay away.

1442
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 2: What higher Kurtsing name be the mayor of Mars, They

1443
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 2: might take a look at that dictator, honestly.

1444
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: Also, last night, fifth Rength Purdue and eighty one seventy

1445
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: three win at Mackie. They beat Washington by eight, but

1446
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 1: they led by twenty two at one point, really just

1447
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: kind of coasted at home. Braden Smith big Night was

1448
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: honored as the Big Tens all time assist leader before

1449
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: the game, then went out and scored twenty three points

1450
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: seven assists. But James, he did have foul trouble in

1451
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: the first half, had to sit down with three fouls,

1452
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: and he did turn the ball over six times. He

1453
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: would probably tell you it was not his best game,

1454
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: but he still helped get it done.

1455
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that is the beauty of being a very

1456
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 4: balanced team. He gives you his B game and they

1457
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 4: still win that game pretty handedly. So excited to see

1458
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 4: how they continue building throughout the rest of the season.

1459
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: Trey Coffman Rent also had fourteen points in fourteen rebound one.

1460
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 3: Legged banker off the last last night I was watching.

1461
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 2: He's got some quirky, quirky shots.

1462
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 3: It double is the most old man move off scene.

1463
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 2: Remember the game winner against IU last year. It was

1464
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: like a shot put Yeah, fifteen, but it works.

1465
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 3: He can hope, man, Yeah, it works.

1466
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: By the way, they are now fourteen and one overall,

1467
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: four n O in the Big Ten. They will play

1468
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: Saturday at two pm against Penn State College Football semi Finals.

1469
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: We've been talking about that all morning long. Tonight the

1470
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: first game in Glendale, Arizona from the Fiesta Bowl, Miami,

1471
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: Oh Miss seven thirty pm on ESPN. The Hurricanes are

1472
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: favored by three and a half points. But of course

1473
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: Mississippi with as I've been saying all morning long, quarterback

1474
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: Trinidad Chambliss. You get one of those playmaking quarterbacks. Man,

1475
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: it can change everything in the matter of two series

1476
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: because he just does crazy things sometimes. James be fun

1477
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: of well for sure. All right, Indiana versus Oregon tomorrow

1478
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: night in the second semi final game at the Peach

1479
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: Bowl in Atlanta. Hoosiers also favored by three and a

1480
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: half points, and that one starts at seven thirty pm,

1481
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: and we'll talk to Sean McDonough, who loved the play

1482
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: by play on ESPN tomorrow. Kevin Soil one of my

1483
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: favorite people in this business, by the way.

1484
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had him on a lot last year. I

1485
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 2: think before I want to say it was I feel

1486
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 2: like he did every Notre Dame game during the playoffs.

1487
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,919
Speaker 2: He was on with us a ton, so yes, we'll

1488
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 2: chat with him coming up tomorrow eight o'clock. The television

1489
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 2: voice of the Peach Bowl.

1490
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: Pacers and Hornets play tonight as well. That'll be in Charlotte,

1491
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: the Pacers trying to snap that thirteen game losing streak.

1492
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: You'll hear that game live beginning at six thirty with

1493
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: the pregame in Pat Boyland Company, and then at seven

1494
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: pm Mark Boyle takes over with the play by play.

1495
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,919
Speaker 1: And in the NBA Big Trade, Atlanta sends Trey Young

1496
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: to Washington, j before C. J. McCollum and Corey Kissburt.

1497
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: Maybe a change of scenery helps everybody there.

1498
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 4: Maybe we'll see I think the Wizards are doing some

1499
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 4: interesting things out there in the nation's capital.

1500
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: They've been better this year. Anything else you want to

1501
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: throw in Kevin before we get to the break.

1502
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they shout out to Braylen Mullins Again. We mentioned

1503
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 2: the first hour, twenty four points last night for the

1504
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,439
Speaker 2: mister basketball for Yukon. That was a wild game them

1505
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 2: coming back to win at Providence. So some early season

1506
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 2: injuries for him, but he has been pretty pretty good

1507
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 2: and that probably his game of the year so far. Really,

1508
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 2: it was a fun night at college hoops outside. You know,

1509
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 2: Indiana Purdue didn't have a super entertaining night. I know

1510
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 2: a lot of fans in this market always love to

1511
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,480
Speaker 2: see Kentucky lose a home game. They lost to Missouri

1512
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 2: last night. Inside of rup, so we boy Mark Pope

1513
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 2: and the old How much is that roster worth in Lexington?

1514
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 2: What's the return on that investment?

1515
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: Not yet unless they get it together during conference play

1516
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 1: over the next eight weeks. Not yet, all right, Coming

1517
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 1: up next, we will talk to the Butler head coach.

1518
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: That's that Modi joins us every Thursday morning and that'll

1519
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: be on your speakers as we continue next on ninety

1520
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 1: three five and one of seven to five of the fan.

1521
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 1: Good morning. Later on tonight, the Indiana Pacers will play

1522
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: at seven pm on the road against the Charlotte Hornets,

1523
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: share time six thirty here on the fan, Kevin, I

1524
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 1: did see where the PACER's going to bring back Tony

1525
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: Bradley on a ten day contract after releasing him last week.

1526
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, the mechanics, I guess we'd ask Scott Agnes and

1527
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 2: he Joints is coming up at nine. But you know,

1528
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 2: I think the Micah Potter experience has gone really well

1529
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 2: for those that haven't watched the Pacers much here recently

1530
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 2: him joining and I think he's been a really, honestly

1531
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 2: an important piece right now. In Isaiah Jackson, that concussion

1532
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 2: continues to linger. So I think some of the semantics

1533
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 2: around or the logistics probably the better word to use

1534
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 2: around why the Pacers are doing that.

1535
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: And James, of the six wins the Pacers have been

1536
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 1: able to put together this year, one of them came

1537
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: earlier this year against the Charlotte Hornets. Got that going

1538
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: on for you this morning tonight.

1539
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 4: We'll find something positives I guess to pull out of that.

1540
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like what Rick has said about this team though,

1541
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: despite the losing that's gone on and they have the

1542
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: worst record in the NBA right now. He does feel

1543
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: like his team has for the most part, been giving

1544
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,719
Speaker 1: it up every single night. They just keep having different

1545
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 1: lineups and injuries and all kinds of crazy things going

1546
01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: on all the time.

1547
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 4: No, he's been critical of their effort though at times,

1548
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 4: and the way they're connected. So I don't want to

1549
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 4: act like he's all rosy about how hard they fight.

1550
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 4: I think that's been a point of emphasis for him

1551
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 4: as of Like Kevin, we talked talked about that with

1552
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 4: him this past week.

1553
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I you know, if you would have given

1554
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 2: me the list of injuries at the start of the year,

1555
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 2: I still probably would have expected them to be higher

1556
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 2: than six wins. Like, I think that's kind of a

1557
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,759
Speaker 2: fair statement. I mean, they've caught a lot of breaks. Obviously,

1558
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 2: their injury situation speaks themselves, but they've caught a lot

1559
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 2: of breaks on the other side of it, Guys, missing

1560
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell the other night, Tyler herobam out of BYO

1561
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 2: a few games ago, you know, Franzo argen Ier, et cetera,

1562
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 2: et cetera.

1563
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, let's check in on college basketball again,

1564
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: as we do every Thursday morning at eight thirty am.

1565
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,480
Speaker 1: We speak to the head coach of the Butler Bulldogs,

1566
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: one of our favorite stat Mada joining us now on

1567
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 1: the Payless Liquers Hotline. Good morning that I hope you're

1568
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 1: doing well this morning. How things going so far?

1569
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 8: So good? You know, one of those days where we

1570
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 8: got to get better day and so life is Life's good.

1571
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 8: We're uh a little bit of a skid right now.

1572
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,839
Speaker 8: We've played some some really really good teams, but uh,

1573
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 8: folks it on us and getting better.

1574
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 2: Coach, you see any similarities from the second half of

1575
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 2: Villanova the second half from Saint John's obviously first half

1576
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 2: is pretty good. There anything that you saw in both

1577
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 2: those second halves with the games got away from you.

1578
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 8: You know, in the Villanova game, I think it was

1579
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 8: more of just the inability to put the ball in

1580
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 8: the basket. You know, I thought we had some unbelievable

1581
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 8: books and you know, give Villanova credit. They got hot,

1582
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 8: which very talented team, and we've seen they were capable

1583
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 8: of doing that. And uh, probably tighter our offense to

1584
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 8: our defense there. You know, the Saint John's game, it

1585
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 8: was just a matter of really taking care of the basketball. Mean,

1586
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 8: we shot fifty percent for the game, but we had

1587
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 8: twenty turnovers and and so many of those were just

1588
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 8: really kind of unforced and and and you know, you

1589
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 8: play a team like Saint John's, they're created turning teams over,

1590
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 8: so you know you're going to turn it over. But

1591
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 8: it was probably just the ones that were unforced more

1592
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 8: so that that really really hurt us when we're down

1593
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,879
Speaker 8: five with eight minutes to go and had a segment

1594
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 8: there with you know, against the press where we turned

1595
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 8: it over two times in a row. So you know,

1596
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 8: those are things we gotta we got to continue to

1597
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 8: to work on and get better.

1598
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 4: Sad when you look at your point guard spot this year,

1599
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 4: I know Stink Robertson got to start against Saint John's

1600
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 4: and boy, that is quite the start for a freshman

1601
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 4: against that sort of pressure. But how would you evaluate

1602
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 4: him and your other ball handlers in areas that they

1603
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 4: can get better.

1604
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 8: Well, I think that's, you know, an area where we

1605
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 8: got to continue to grow. I mean, hey, we don't

1606
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 8: have Jalleen Jackson, and that was in the plan of

1607
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 8: you know, having a guy that played one hundred and

1608
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 8: thirty college basketball games and you know him kind of

1609
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 8: running the team. And so now I think for for

1610
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 8: Xavier and the supposed to and even how many you know,

1611
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 8: those guys who got to continue to hone in on

1612
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 8: on you know, running a team, taking care of the

1613
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 8: basketball and and uh you know all of them play

1614
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 8: hard and and and you see the growth in them,

1615
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 8: which is which is exciting. But uh, you know, like

1616
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 8: you said, you know that he's looked at the teams

1617
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 8: we've played thus far, the five Big East Games, and

1618
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 8: you know, arguably the five best teams in the Big East.

1619
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 8: And uh so I think as they continue to develop,

1620
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 8: get experience is going to do nothing.

1621
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: But help them coach. We all watch guys like Finley

1622
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 1: biz Jack and Michael Jai and they just keep coming

1623
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: up big for you. Again and again. You talked about

1624
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: growth and development a minute ago. Outside of those two guys,

1625
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 1: who are the guys that have really started a step

1626
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: up for you? And you're like, hey, I trust this

1627
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: guy a lot more than I did at the beginning

1628
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 1: of the season.

1629
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 8: Well, you know, it's funny at this stage you trust

1630
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 8: them all because it's it is what it is. And

1631
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 8: I think, you know, I like the way Drayton and Johann,

1632
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 8: I mean, you're you're getting consistency out of those guys,

1633
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 8: just in terms of their their will play. I think Jamie,

1634
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 8: you know, is continuing to grow all these guys. Our

1635
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 8: biggest issue is is we got to have everybody playing

1636
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 8: really well every time we take the court, you know

1637
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 8: what I mean, And that's our margin career is slim.

1638
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 8: So I think that's the challenge of As I told

1639
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 8: the guys after the game there night, you're gonna be

1640
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 8: a better basketball player on Wednesday when we play Xavier,

1641
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 8: and we're gonna be a better basketball team. That's that's

1642
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 8: the only option we have.

1643
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 2: And that's that Mada and Butler a little bit of

1644
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 2: time off here, as you said, at Xavier, they got

1645
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 2: coming up next week. I think you've kind of hinted

1646
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 2: at it fad, you know, maybe the last couple answers.

1647
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 2: But you know, given the Jalen Jackson injury, it just

1648
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 2: seems like right now there's so much pressure on Finley,

1649
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: Bizjack and Michael Jay to be whatever for you from

1650
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 2: a scoring standpoint. Every night, you know you're right there

1651
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 2: in the game. Michael picks up his fourth foul the

1652
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 2: other night and it starts to get away from you.

1653
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 2: Do you feel like there is a ton of pressure

1654
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 2: on those two to deliver for Unite in a night

1655
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 2: out and they probably are a top the posting scouting report.

1656
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 8: Well, without a doubt, there's no question, you know. And

1657
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 8: Michael was in foul trouble at the Creating game when

1658
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 8: we we got back in that thing and had a

1659
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 8: chance to win it. So yeah, I mean, but that's

1660
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 8: kind of what they sign up for, I think, And

1661
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 8: and you know, we got to continue to get creative

1662
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 8: and and find ways to help them be the best

1663
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:23,440
Speaker 8: version of themselves.

1664
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: Talk about not playing again until Wednesday. At this point

1665
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: in the season, how beneficial is it to have like

1666
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: a whole week to kind of work on your team

1667
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: your game.

1668
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 8: Well, you know there's there's uh, there's good and bad

1669
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 8: to everything, right, and uh, you know, we come out

1670
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 8: off of this week and I think we got four

1671
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 8: games in eight days, and so we need to get

1672
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 8: into practice today and and get back to you know,

1673
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 8: really honing in because what happens is, you know, you

1674
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,799
Speaker 8: get going from game to game to game, and and

1675
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 8: it's very easy to lose sight of of your your principles,

1676
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 8: your your fundamentals because every team, you know, the difference

1677
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 8: between Saint John it's the difference between uh ST Villanova,

1678
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 8: the difference between Creighton, and so your game preps a

1679
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 8: lot of times are are just so different because of

1680
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 8: the what the opponent presents. And I think that's where,

1681
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 8: you know, we got a week here to get back

1682
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 8: to focusing in on our fundamentals and what we have

1683
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 8: to do to get better.

1684
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 4: One more from me coached that and looking at one

1685
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 4: of your more unique situations with Jack McCaffrey, I'm reading about,

1686
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 4: or I read about, how he had gone through kind

1687
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 4: of a unique situation getting his wisdom team moved and

1688
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 4: you know, having an infection throughout that whole process and

1689
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 4: working his way back. So where is he in the

1690
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 4: recovery process and how have you kind of helped him

1691
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 4: navigate what has turned out to obviously not be the

1692
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 4: freshman year he probably envisioned coming into this year.

1693
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 8: Yeah. Tell you know, when when you talk about bad luck,

1694
01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 8: that was that was one of the weirdest uh I

1695
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 8: didn't get my wisdoms detail. I was out till I

1696
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 8: was like forty and my wife trick man, I went

1697
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 8: in to get one out and they took all four.

1698
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 8: So but but long story short, you know, it was

1699
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 8: it was an unfortunate situation and it really really set

1700
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 8: him back. He lost like twenty five pounds and in

1701
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 8: the two weeks that he was sick and he couldn't eat,

1702
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 8: couldn't open his mouth. And so we're we're he's slowly

1703
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 8: getting back into it, but it's just, you know, where

1704
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 8: we are in the stage of the season. It's tough

1705
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 8: for him, but tough kid. And I don't know exactly

1706
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 8: when he can, you know, be back to full speed.

1707
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 8: He's not doing a ton right now, just you know,

1708
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 8: just physically not in shape, and hopefully we'll get him

1709
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 8: back sooner than later.

1710
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: Coach, I know it's a twenty four to seven job

1711
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 1: that you have, especially this time of year, But as

1712
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 1: a sports fan, is there any opportunity for you to

1713
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 1: even check out like these college football playoffs semi finals.

1714
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 8: It's funny. I'm like one of the biggest colle football

1715
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 8: fans there is, and uh, you know what what Indiana

1716
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 8: is doing right now. Obviously I spent a year down there,

1717
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 8: and uh, you know, so happy for Scott Dolson and

1718
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 8: Indiana and rooting for those guys like crazy.

1719
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,600
Speaker 1: Well, have fun coach this week, good luck getting your

1720
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: team together. Again and and we'll keep an eye on

1721
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 1: it and we'll talk to you again next Thursday.

1722
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 8: Appreciate you guys, Thank you.

1723
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: Here you go. Butler Bulldogs. He talked about those four

1724
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: games coming up in eight days after this, this kind

1725
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 1: of mini break here at Xavier, at Seaton Hall, home

1726
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: against the Paul and then home against Marquette, and that

1727
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: all comes between next Wednesday and the following Friday. So

1728
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 1: they will be very busy again very soon. And I

1729
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 1: was watching that game the other night and it was

1730
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 1: that second half, it was just turnover. Saint John's a

1731
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 1: lot had a lot to do with that, but they

1732
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: just couldn't get the ball up the floor that.

1733
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 2: Yes, again without Jalen Jackson, who you know, was one

1734
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 2: of the better players in the Horizon League last year,

1735
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 2: transferred in from Fort Wayne. It's so much pressure on

1736
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 2: Steve Robinson especially to you know, be the the the

1737
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 2: point guard. Really a lot of it. I think you're

1738
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:07,560
Speaker 2: kind of playing guys out of position here, So Michael J. Finley, Bizjack,

1739
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 2: the pressure is immense. Again, They're still hovering right there

1740
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 2: on that bubble. So it's not like this is deaf

1741
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 2: Con time, but the urgency is going to be there.

1742
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 2: The Big East has opportunities, doesn't have as many opportunities

1743
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 2: as other conferences to pad that resume. But I think

1744
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 2: Butler's margin for air is really really shrunk here with

1745
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 2: that Jalen Jackson injury.

1746
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 1: All right, coming up at a moment, we'll talk more

1747
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 1: about Chris Baller getting rid of to meet with the

1748
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 1: media at eleven o'clock this morning. We're just two hours

1749
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 1: and twenty minutes away from that. We've also got PACER's

1750
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 1: discussion with Scott Agnes coming up at the top of

1751
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: the hours. They try to get it going again. And

1752
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 1: we'll take some of your thoughts, phone calls and texts

1753
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 1: in the next ten to fifteen minutes or so. Right

1754
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: here at ninety three five and one oh seven five

1755
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:51,679
Speaker 1: the Fan, Good morning, everyone, Welcome into a Thursday. Caleb

1756
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 1: zuover on the other side of glass this morning. Caleb

1757
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: be having a good time, done a great job so

1758
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: far filling it from Mark.

1759
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 10: You guys know, I always have a great time being here, man.

1760
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 10: I just feels awesome to be here right before James

1761
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 10: and Kevin. You get to send him off right into

1762
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 10: the to the long road that is West fifty sixth

1763
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 10: Street and they get to do their thing.

1764
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 7: I can't wait.

1765
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: We were waiting for your analysis on Ohio State's game

1766
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 1: this week.

1767
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, unfortunately, Aha, many. Yeah, they don't have a game.

1768
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 10: I don't know where they're playing. I don't know who

1769
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 10: they're playing. They're in the portal.

1770
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 1: I guess they're going on hanging out with Lane Kiffin

1771
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: this week. I know what that is going on. James

1772
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: Boyd Kevin Bowen also in here today. I'm jeff Rickord

1773
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 1: and you guys will both be at the eleven am

1774
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: press conference for Chris Ballard a little bit later on

1775
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 1: this morning, and we're getting a lot of suggestions for

1776
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:46,600
Speaker 1: questions on the text line this morning. Ben says, I

1777
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: would love for someone to ask Chris Ballard today. Last year,

1778
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 1: at your end of the year presser, you said, quote

1779
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 1: today's compromises, we come tomorrow's standard. How would you describe

1780
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:59,560
Speaker 1: the standard you have set this past year leading the organization?

1781
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 1: It's a fair question.

1782
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 2: I think did he really say that.

1783
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 3: He did not say that.

1784
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 1: That's what That's what Ben said, So, yeah.

1785
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 3: But he didn't say that.

1786
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, that sounds like a Yeah, we've had a

1787
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 2: couple of curse words in there, but along those lines,

1788
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 2: paraphrasing the question a bit, Yeah, I think it's a

1789
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 2: fair question.

1790
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 4: What is your standard and is it heightened at all?

1791
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 4: I want to get into the whole urgency thing. How

1792
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 4: do you feel that? Is it you feel more urgency

1793
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 4: because you're going into the final year of your contract

1794
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 4: for the first time of your career. Is it more on

1795
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 4: the field based because it is a five years drought now,

1796
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 4: which is now the third longest streak in the NFL.

1797
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 4: I believe it was the fourth until the Panthers actually

1798
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 4: made it recently. So Yeah, I'm very curious to know

1799
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 4: his thoughts on that.

1800
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah urgency. Given his resume, James almost sounds like your

1801
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,799
Speaker 2: buddy that has forty five credits and its second semester

1802
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 2: senior year and he needs to graduate. It's like, wait

1803
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,719
Speaker 2: a minute, shouldn't the urgency have been there maybe when

1804
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 2: you had nine credits after your freshman year, or you know,

1805
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 2: fifteen credits bit way through your sophomore like something along

1806
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: those line. I don't really understand all of a sudden,

1807
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 2: here we are entering in year ten, urgency that's got

1808
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 2: to be higher. It's like, well, where were we in

1809
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 2: year five year, six year, seven year eight. You know

1810
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 2: that's me doesn't make a whole lot of sense. And

1811
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 2: is urgency strictly praying to the football gods? Or is

1812
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,720
Speaker 2: there more? Is there more action? You know, this gets

1813
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 2: back into the conversation we had to lead off the

1814
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 2: show today. One thing I am curious I get the

1815
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 2: ballor you know, given the resume, you can only defend

1816
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 2: so much, which is hardly anything he can really defend

1817
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 2: on his resume. But this time last year, we did

1818
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 2: walk out of the Chris ballod press conference and you know,

1819
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 2: defensive change was about to happen. If I kind of

1820
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 2: forget if Gus Bradley was already fired or not, but

1821
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 2: that obviously happened, and then he said he was going

1822
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 2: to do things differently in free agency. So is there

1823
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 2: anything speaking to that sort of actionable stuff that we

1824
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 2: hear today That would be something that I am curious

1825
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: about because they just don't have as many you know,

1826
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 2: when you bring up how much cap space they have,

1827
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 2: they don't have first round pick, they've got a north

1828
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 2: of fifty million. Well, you know, I think a lot

1829
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 2: of that's got to go to the quarterback in the

1830
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 2: top white out, So you know how much are Daniel

1831
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 2: Jones and Alec Pierce eating up of that? So how

1832
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 2: much can they really retool things?

1833
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 1: Unless I'm mistaken, I believe the record in nine seasons

1834
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 1: is seventy seventy eight and one. Does that sound about right?

1835
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's right.

1836
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: So you've been back for nine seasons and you're eight

1837
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: games under five hundred.

1838
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 4: That's when we get into the debate of is it,

1839
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 4: as Kevin said, a nine year resume you're looking at

1840
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 4: or a one year resume? Is it the first eight

1841
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 4: years versus the last year? And clearly Carly Ursa Gordon

1842
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 4: and her sisters, the Colts Try owners at this point

1843
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 4: made it clear that they believe or wanted to rather

1844
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:08,799
Speaker 4: weigh this year more than the others.

1845
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 2: Did you get any We've talked a little bit about

1846
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 2: locker room clean out from earlier in the week. What

1847
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 2: was your impression of Alec Pierce and the season he

1848
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 2: had and the uncertainty now as he enters his first

1849
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:21,879
Speaker 2: free agency.

1850
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 4: The season he had was incredible. Whenever you can reach

1851
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 4: one thousand yards on forty seven catches, it lets you

1852
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 4: know you're doing something right. When it comes to the

1853
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 4: big playability and In addition to leading the league and

1854
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 4: yards per reception again back to back years, he also

1855
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,719
Speaker 4: showed I thought Kevin that he was a complete receiver

1856
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 4: with some of the underneath stuff, crossing routes, and he's

1857
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 4: always been a good contest to catch guy. So from

1858
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 4: that perspective, great season earned a massive race wherever he goes.

1859
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 4: But talking to him, I got the impression that he

1860
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 4: will listen to all parties and unless you tag him,

1861
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 4: not a foregone conclusion that he'll be back.

1862
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1863
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 2: I get the whole.

1864
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 4: He's like the homegrown talent, the Midwest kid. Midwest kids

1865
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 4: can leave for millions of dollars. I would do it

1866
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 4: if I had the opportunity, given you know where he

1867
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 4: is in his career. I don't want to act like,

1868
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 4: you know it's all about well, he grew up here

1869
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 4: and he's used to the small town vibe or the

1870
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 4: small ish big city that Indianapolis is.

1871
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 3: Nobody cares about that. In free agency, he can go

1872
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 3: somewhere i e.

1873
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 4: The Bills or the Chiefs, or somewhere where one you

1874
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 4: know you have a quarterback that's going to be there

1875
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 4: for years to come, and then two you're going to

1876
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:36,719
Speaker 4: get the ball down the field.

1877
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am. You know, when it comes to Pierce,

1878
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 2: assuming they're able to, you know, give Daniel Jones some

1879
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 2: sort of actual contract whatever two years, insert your money here.

1880
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 2: I almost want to hear Pierce discuss his future and

1881
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 2: you know whatever possibly being on the open market. I think,

1882
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 2: you know, the recruiting angle, if you will, of almost

1883
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 2: feeling like you're back in college again. There's part of

1884
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 2: me it's like, wait, is it not just a moot point?

1885
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 2: Don't you just slap the franchise tag on on him

1886
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 2: and move on? And I know people then have followed

1887
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,720
Speaker 2: up with well, could he be a holding? Could it

1888
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 2: be a holdout? You know, we obviously see that around

1889
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 2: the NFL on occasion, but I don't. I guess I

1890
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 2: would be very to summarize the whole Pierce thing up.

1891
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 2: For me, I'd be very surprised if he's not a

1892
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 2: cult week one. And I'm not necessarily saying that means

1893
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 2: a three year, one hundred something million dollar deal, but

1894
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 2: I just think that in one hundred maybe it's a

1895
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 2: little bit too much there obviously, but you know, you

1896
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 2: just slap the franchise tag on him, and I think

1897
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 2: there's enough here that he is okay with Daniel Jones.

1898
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 2: I think he you know, enjoys whatever being here, that

1899
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 2: he'll just play on that franchise tag.

1900
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:47,759
Speaker 3: So then here's my question.

1901
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 4: I think the franchise tag last time I checked for

1902
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 4: wide receivers in twenty twenty six is rejected to be

1903
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 4: twenty eight million dollars. That's your baseline if I'm out

1904
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 4: at Pierce in negotiations. Give me that twenty eight million

1905
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 4: dollars guaranteed. Now I want more guaranteed money on top

1906
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 4: of that, but my annual salary will not be any

1907
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 4: lower than twenty eight And are you willing to pay

1908
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 4: that right now? I will say push that problem the

1909
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 4: next offseason. I guess I was gonna say, he has

1910
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 4: a ton of leverage. Yeah, you're right about that. It

1911
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 4: could just be a one year deal. But he also

1912
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:18,719
Speaker 4: has a lot of leverage in saying that.

1913
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 1: One.

1914
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 4: He doesn't have leverage when you back up, you don't

1915
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 4: have leverage from the franchise tag standpoint, because once they

1916
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 4: tag you, you have to show up and work. That

1917
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 4: is what you're going to get paid for that year.

1918
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 4: But going forward, he could just say, well, I'll continue

1919
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 4: to play this thing out, and if my production isn't

1920
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 4: or my production is great again, you either have to

1921
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 4: tag me again or give me the money that I

1922
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 4: already asks for, which again at minimum, will be twenty

1923
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 4: eight million dollars annually.

1924
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Braton rates in two questions for you, guys, and

1925
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 1: I think I know the answer to the first one, certainly,

1926
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 1: But to what extent do you think Ballard is really

1927
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 1: running the franchise? And two? Who with the top candidates

1928
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Speaker 1: to be if you brought in an executive vice president

1929
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Speaker 1: football operations to help Carly ursa Gordon out kind of

1930
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Speaker 1: somebody over Chris Ballard there. I don't you answer those questions.

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Speaker 1: I'll let you James.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know how to answer those because I

1933
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Speaker 4: haven't Givetty much thought. They're not going to hire a president,

1934
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Speaker 4: so me entertaining the idea of them bringing one in,

1935
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Speaker 4: I don't even know how that whole thing works. I mean,

1936
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Speaker 4: how many teams in the NFL I even have that,

1937
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Speaker 4: So I don't know that radio But I really don't know.

1938
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Speaker 2: No, I think it's the right answer, though I've always

1939
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Speaker 2: felt in regards to the team president idea, that's a

1940
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Speaker 2: lot of cooks in the kitchen. It's just a lot

1941
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Speaker 2: of Okay, who is in control of the roster? Is

1942
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Speaker 2: it the GM and the president's just simply overseeing that,

1943
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Speaker 2: or is the team president naturally going to have some

1944
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Speaker 2: say on the roster? Then go to the head coach.

1945
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Speaker 2: How much say does the head coach have in personnel? None?

1946
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Speaker 2: The head coach shows up every week and hey, this

1947
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Speaker 2: is what we're gonna have on Sundays and these are

1948
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Speaker 2: the forty six guys dressed in to play for me?

1949
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Speaker 2: And then naturally ownership. Are they truly going to sit

1950
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Speaker 2: that out or are they inevitably going to have some

1951
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Speaker 2: sort of whatever, Hey we need to you know, who's

1952
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Speaker 2: green lighting the sauce gardener trade. Does the GM have

1953
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Speaker 2: full control on that or does the team president have

1954
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Speaker 2: to sign off? Does the team president then have full

1955
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Speaker 2: control on that, or does the owner also have to

1956
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Speaker 2: sign off? I just think it's a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think I think part of the question probably comes

1958
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Speaker 1: from the fact that the perception, and you guys can

1959
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Speaker 1: speak more of the reality than I can. The perception

1960
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Speaker 1: was always that, yes, Chris Palander was running the show,

1961
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Speaker 1: but that Jim Rsay had a pretty big say in

1962
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Speaker 1: how things went yeah.

1963
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think Ersay had quarterbacks say and sign

1964
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Speaker 2: off on a Sauce Gardener trade. But I don't think

1965
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Speaker 2: Ersay necessarily was whatever, you know, deciding that allowed to

1966
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Speaker 2: Lots was going to be the draft pick or quitting

1967
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Speaker 2: Hey was going to be the draft pick. I mean,

1968
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Speaker 2: I think they're all kind of lying to be drawn

1969
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Speaker 2: in terms of where the decisions are made and where

1970
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Speaker 2: they're not. So yeah, I think as long as you

1971
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Speaker 2: have a competent GM, then I think everything can kind

1972
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Speaker 2: of fall into place nicely with the head coach. Then

1973
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Speaker 2: underneath that, I don't think necessarily you need someone above that.

1974
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Speaker 1: All right, coming up in a moment, we'll talk Pacers.

1975
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Speaker 1: They are trying to get rid of that losing streak.

1976
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Speaker 1: Tonight they have made one player personnel move over the

1977
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Speaker 1: last twenty four hours. We'll find out about that and

1978
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Speaker 1: other things from Scott Agnes from Fieldhouse Files. That's next

1979
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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five.

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Speaker 8: The fan.

1981
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Speaker 1: First semi final for the College Football Playoff comes your

1982
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Speaker 1: way tonight, Old Miss Miami, and tomorrow night it'll be

1983
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Speaker 1: Oregon against the Indiana Hoosiers. You'll be able to hear

1984
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Speaker 1: that Hoosier game beginning tomorrow night right here on ninety

1985
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Speaker 1: three five and one oh seven to five the Fan

1986
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Speaker 1: at six thirty PM. The game itself kicks off at

1987
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Speaker 1: seven listened to Don Fisher, or you can watch it

1988
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Speaker 1: on ESPN with Sean McDonough at seven point thirty. We'll

1989
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Speaker 1: have Sean McDonough on tomorrow. Right now, though, we're talking

1990
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Speaker 1: some Indiana Pacers basketball one with Kevin Bowen and James Boyd.

1991
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Speaker 1: I'm jeff Rickard, Caleb Zuber behind the glass and on

1992
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Speaker 1: the pay Less Lookers hotline right now, the one the only.

1993
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Speaker 1: Scott Agnes, Good morning, Scott, Welcome in to a whole

1994
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Speaker 1: brand new year for NBA for you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right, Good morning, guys, appreciate it.

1996
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Speaker 1: Always good to talk to Tony Bradley coming back on

1997
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Speaker 1: a ten day contractor looking for any answers up front

1998
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Speaker 1: right now, aren't they?

1999
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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's one of those situations. While the center position

2000
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 11: was kind of incomplete for this group entering the season,

2001
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Speaker 11: right we all knew that Rick Carlisle had talked about

2002
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 11: how it was center by committee. Now they've really felt it,

2003
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 11: especially in the last month as multiple players have battled

2004
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Speaker 11: injury and what does it say about the center position, Jeff,

2005
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 11: where you're bringing back a player who's not even one

2006
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Speaker 11: hundred percent fractured tip of his shooting thumb on his

2007
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Speaker 11: right side. But they just need some kind of depth

2008
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 11: and help there. So that's the reason why they're But

2009
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,679
Speaker 11: on the positive side, as you've seen Micah Potter really

2010
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Speaker 11: establish himself as a solid role player and earned a

2011
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Speaker 11: fully guaranteed contract for the rest of the season.

2012
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Speaker 2: Scott, I'm gonna yanked the wheel here for a second.

2013
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Speaker 2: How was the Rose bull?

2014
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Speaker 11: So it was phenomenal, nothing but great things to say

2015
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Speaker 11: about the whole experience. How nice everyone was. I mean,

2016
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Speaker 11: didn't really even run into any Alabama fans, Kevin. It

2017
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Speaker 11: was remarkable. It was truly like seventy five eighty percent

2018
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 11: IU fans, no doubt about that. The only I guess negative,

2019
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Speaker 11: if you will, other than getting in and out, which

2020
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Speaker 11: is known for where it is and that experience, is

2021
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Speaker 11: that all that rain in the morning. You'll appreciate this

2022
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Speaker 11: maybe more than anyone. Made it feel like an indy

2023
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Speaker 11: five hundred race day.

2024
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Speaker 6: In the morning.

2025
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Speaker 11: We were trudging through mud and there were lines and

2026
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Speaker 11: all those different things, but we were trained for all that,

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Speaker 11: I think.

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Speaker 2: Are you do you expect kind of the same fan

2029
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Speaker 2: discrepancy if you will tomorrow? And I because I think

2030
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Speaker 2: it'll be massive for Indiana down there, I do too.

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Speaker 11: I'm not sure if it'll be that at that level,

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Speaker 11: just because I don't think, you know, Oregon fans are

2033
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Speaker 11: as content or maybe you know used to this necessarily,

2034
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Speaker 11: maybe as much as an Alabama program that has been

2035
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Speaker 11: the team for the last twenty years and they can't

2036
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Speaker 11: assume anything, whereas I'm sure there were some Alabama fans

2037
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Speaker 11: with the old stereotype of Indiana who are assuming things

2038
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Speaker 11: and the other thing. If you listen to IU what

2039
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Speaker 11: they have to say, I think they say Atlanta is

2040
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Speaker 11: the third largest city for IU alums, and so yes,

2041
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Speaker 11: I expect it to be massive. The big red warm

2042
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Speaker 11: up that the alumni Association has sold out several days ago.

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Speaker 11: I'm really looking forward to seeing what it looks like

2044
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Speaker 11: for you.

2045
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Speaker 2: Okay, back to Pacers talk. Scott agnesfield House files with

2046
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Speaker 2: us here. How much should this year for Benedict Matherin

2047
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Speaker 2: matter when it comes to trade conversations? Obviously, entering the

2048
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:55,559
Speaker 2: year you're asking them to do things differently with of

2049
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 2: course Tyres Halliburn's injury. Now Matherin, who really wasn't hurt

2050
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Speaker 2: that much INA's career, he suffered two injuries that have

2051
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Speaker 2: sidelined him. It sounds like he's tried to play through that.

2052
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Speaker 2: You know, Rick Carlisle, I think acknowledge that when he

2053
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 2: joined us back on Tuesday. So how much do you

2054
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:14,719
Speaker 2: think it should And I guess will impact trade talks

2055
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:16,719
Speaker 2: here as the deadline is less than a month away.

2056
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Speaker 11: Well, I think usually when you're trying to add a

2057
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 11: guy of this caliber, you're looking for him to be

2058
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Speaker 11: maybe that final piece or the guy that helps seal

2059
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 11: a pat be the patch to seal something later in

2060
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Speaker 11: the season when you have, you know, those championship aspirations.

2061
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Speaker 11: The other way I could see it is for a

2062
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Speaker 11: younger team that has cap space that they're willing to

2063
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Speaker 11: use this year. Either way, I think it will have

2064
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Speaker 11: some impact, mostly in consideration where will the team be

2065
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Speaker 11: willing to give an extension for next year.

2066
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Speaker 6: And what will that look like.

2067
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Speaker 11: The reality is we have not really even seen a

2068
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 11: healthy Benedict Mathern because that turf toe happened in Game

2069
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 11: two of the season, and any player will tell that

2070
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 11: is a miserable injury. It's something you just have to

2071
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 11: not do anything and take it easy for a couple

2072
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Speaker 11: of months. But that adds the complexity KB to this season.

2073
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Speaker 11: Because he's in a contract year, he wants to raise

2074
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 11: his ceiling even more, whether it's with the Pacers or elsewhere,

2075
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,679
Speaker 11: and so he's played through that. This right thumb injury

2076
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 11: happened more basically about a month ago, is what I

2077
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Speaker 11: was told, and he continued to try to play through it.

2078
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Speaker 11: That mostly explains a lot of the shooting woes that

2079
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 11: we've seen from him. But I think ultimately both sides said, hey, look,

2080
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 11: this is not productive. We want you to be healthy.

2081
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:34,680
Speaker 11: Let's sit you on the bench and allow you to

2082
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 11: get rest. But from the trade conversation piece of it,

2083
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 11: if he is included because he's in a contract year,

2084
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 11: I think it's certainly got to have some impact, but

2085
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Speaker 11: nothing's significant.

2086
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Speaker 4: Again, we're talking to Scott Agnes here on the Payoff

2087
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Speaker 4: Stickers hot Line. You can check him out at fieldolphsfiles

2088
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Speaker 4: dot com. Scott, when I look at the makeup of

2089
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:58,559
Speaker 4: the Pacers and they're losing streak right now, I always

2090
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 4: look at the draft board as well. Oh, I don't

2091
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:01,600
Speaker 4: know if this has been as early as I've been

2092
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Speaker 4: on techathon dot com. Yeah, but they'll never throw in

2093
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 4: the towel and I don't expect that to happen for

2094
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 4: Rick Carlisle. But how realistic do you think they are

2095
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 4: in knowing that they have to find, perhaps in it's

2096
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Speaker 4: a coming draft, a centerpiece to put around Halliburton.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's significant. I think I would go a step further.

2098
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 11: I want I want to see that more of that

2099
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Speaker 11: six foot eight wing. I want to see that player

2100
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Speaker 11: that that is the modern style of what we've seen

2101
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 11: with basketball over the last decade. I think you can

2102
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Speaker 11: get your center in different ways, whether that's in free agency,

2103
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 11: there's always a handful to choose from, certainly James on

2104
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Speaker 11: the other side, there's also some teams that probably are

2105
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Speaker 11: in the Pacers spot where a guy's not getting playing time.

2106
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Speaker 11: And I mean Pacers from about three years ago when

2107
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Speaker 11: they had six centers on their roster. There's always that

2108
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Speaker 11: type of situation. A Googa bitase Daniel Tyst as well.

2109
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Speaker 11: Now you could argue how high of ceiling does that

2110
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Speaker 11: player need to be when you have those championship aspirations

2111
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Speaker 11: back for next season, So I just prioritize. I think

2112
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 11: wings are the hardest player to get at all, So

2113
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Speaker 11: if that player is there, I'm certainly prioritizing that over

2114
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Speaker 11: a center, say in the draft. But yeah, that's been

2115
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Speaker 11: one of the big issues for this team this season.

2116
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Speaker 11: I think everybody underappreciated the stability that Miles Turner brought

2117
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Speaker 11: for the past ten years.

2118
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Speaker 6: Was he perfect?

2119
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 11: Absolutely not, but he was vocal, he protected the rim,

2120
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Speaker 11: and that's something that's really been absent all season long.

2121
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Speaker 4: Yeah, to clarify when I said centerpiece, I meant exactly

2122
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Speaker 4: what you meant. Go Okay, one of the players in

2123
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Speaker 4: the draft, and definitely an issue up front with center.

2124
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Speaker 3: But I mean, to be frank for myself.

2125
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Speaker 4: I'm looking at Darren Peterson, AJ Debanza, Cameron Boozer, and

2126
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Speaker 4: anybody else who's in that top five range for this team.

2127
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Speaker 4: And you said some'th the interesting there at the end there, Scott,

2128
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Speaker 4: how much do you believe this team can return to

2129
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Speaker 4: contending next year? Because I'm not gonna lie watching this unfold,

2130
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:56,799
Speaker 4: and I get it, a lot of injuries have happened.

2131
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Speaker 4: I wonder how much more tweaking needs to be done,

2132
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 4: adding potentially a top five pick and a healthy Halibird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: For me, it starts with having that modern style player.

2135
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Speaker 11: I get you now entirely, we're on the same page

2136
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 11: with all that. One of the things that you're seeing

2137
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Speaker 11: TJ McConnell become more limited, right, is he playing in

2138
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 11: back to backs. That's something of concern, But I think

2139
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Speaker 11: you can you can add more of a ball handling

2140
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Speaker 11: type player, a combo guard. They have that specifically, probably

2141
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 11: in a guy like Cam Jones. And then you start

2142
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 11: to think about Pascal Siakam because at this point in

2143
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 11: this season you want to be conscious of his minutes,

2144
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 11: knowing that he's a little bit older, but he's still

2145
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 11: in his peak prime and absolutely still contributing. So I

2146
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 11: do think given full health or just about that and

2147
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 11: key players back, that the Pacers will absolutely be back.

2148
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:50,720
Speaker 11: In the conversation for a chan, I mean, just look

2149
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 11: at the top of the standings. You have the Pistons

2150
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 11: team that has not done anything leading in the Eastern Conference.

2151
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 11: The Celtics without Tatum are able to rely on their

2152
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 11: depth a lot more.

2153
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 6: Jalen Brown shines there.

2154
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 11: At the top of the East. Even Philly, who I'm

2155
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 11: never been a great believer in is there in the

2156
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 11: top six. So that's a big reason why I think

2157
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:12,440
Speaker 11: this season stings even more James right because Pacers would absolutely,

2158
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 11: I think be a top four team right now if

2159
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 11: they mostly had all that health, and in turn they don't.

2160
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:21,280
Speaker 11: What I do wonder about is the leadership aspect and everything.

2161
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:24,639
Speaker 11: Are they missing James Johnson right now? During a thirteen

2162
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 11: game win strenk Only the locker room, I think can

2163
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 11: tell you that.

2164
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 1: Talking to Scott Agnes field House finals here on the

2165
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 1: Payless Slickers hotline, and we're talking about better bathering a

2166
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 1: few moments ago. But we had a trade yesterday in

2167
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 1: the NBA. Trey Young goes to Washington and Washington sends

2168
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 1: back CJ McCollum and Corey Kisperg. Overall, are there a

2169
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 1: lot of moves that the Pacers really even can make

2170
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:47,719
Speaker 1: at this point in time?

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01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 11: I don't think so, because what do teams want? Other

2172
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:55,680
Speaker 11: teams they want things of value of players that have

2173
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 11: been contributing, and they know exactly what they can get

2174
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 11: for these guys. And the reality is the Pacers have

2175
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:04,719
Speaker 11: been shuffling their lineup all season long. Twenty four different

2176
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 11: players have suited up all those different things, and so

2177
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 11: that's why I think the natural conversation piece for all

2178
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 11: of us is mentioning Mathering given his eye upside, given

2179
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 11: how young he is, and the fact that he's going

2180
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 11: into a second contract, and sometimes teams don't necessarily want

2181
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 11: to pay that. And the other big thing we need

2182
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:27,799
Speaker 11: to point out here is the Pacers have played most

2183
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 11: of their players in the last couple of years. One

2184
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 11: of the big talking points with Miles Turner is how much,

2185
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:35,600
Speaker 11: if at all, are you willing to go into the

2186
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:38,760
Speaker 11: salary tax, So that conversation has to be had all

2187
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 11: over again right now when you deal with Matherren. Now

2188
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 11: you mentioned the trade last night. I think that's kind

2189
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 11: of relevant to the point of the Wizards. We're looking

2190
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 11: at having significant salary cap space like eighty million, which

2191
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:54,759
Speaker 11: means they would probably have easily a thirty million to burn,

2192
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 11: let's say, and utilize on a matherin Pelicans are going

2193
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 11: to have this expiring contract with CJ.

2194
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:01,160
Speaker 6: McCollums.

2195
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 11: So if you're looking at teams that would have money

2196
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 11: that could make it restricted an offer to matherin restricted

2197
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:09,759
Speaker 11: free agency, these are two of the teams you're watching

2198
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 11: in addition to your watching the record because they're right

2199
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:15,280
Speaker 11: there with the Pacers at the bottom of the league standings.

2200
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:18,559
Speaker 2: Scott, give me a random IU football player you've thought

2201
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:19,840
Speaker 2: about during this run.

2202
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 3: I think about Oh, I see what you're saying.

2203
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, you're a fan, man, you go back. You

2204
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 2: are a legit fan. That's why I'm dialing this question

2205
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 2: up for you. I always love how Peyton Ramsey would

2206
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:33,639
Speaker 2: always QB sneak it like off the right tackle. Seemed

2207
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:37,680
Speaker 2: to work literally every time. Wap Fillier popped into my

2208
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:39,600
Speaker 2: head the other day, Tandeon Dolls. He was kind of

2209
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 2: around you. You and ice Age. Jamie Kurlew is such

2210
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 2: a great pass rusher back in the day for him,

2211
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:51,400
Speaker 2: Oh man, So yeah, any random IU football player that's

2212
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:52,479
Speaker 2: popped into your mind here.

2213
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 6: I could have Ben Chapel. He was there. He was

2214
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 6: the quarterback when I.

2215
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:58,639
Speaker 2: Was a cocal local guy, yep.

2216
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 11: And he was there at the heat of it under

2217
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:04,639
Speaker 11: Billy Lynch when I was transcribing Billy Lynch's quotes while

2218
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 11: volunteering in the sports information office and to that relevancy.

2219
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 11: He was at the game in Pasadena, So I saw

2220
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 11: him there down on the field. He's probably the first

2221
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 11: name other than Antoine Randelel, who kind of was the

2222
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:20,040
Speaker 11: first guy I truly remember with my fandom and getting

2223
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:22,720
Speaker 11: his jersey and all those different things. But yeah, this

2224
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 11: is as everybody knows, this is beyond you fans wildest dreams.

2225
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:28,519
Speaker 11: You hope for six seven wins. You hoped for a

2226
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:32,200
Speaker 11: Bowl game and that was it, and now you know

2227
01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:33,360
Speaker 11: you're on top of the world.

2228
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 6: And why would they go anywhere else? Right now? There's

2229
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 6: no reason.

2230
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 2: Was the quarterback Richard Legou who wore number twenty one?

2231
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 2: Was that his name a few years back?

2232
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 6: I remember that name.

2233
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I swore black wore twenty one, which we had

2234
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 2: that this year, the BYU quarterback was wearing some wild

2235
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:54,680
Speaker 2: jersey number as well. I'm like, man, I got it.

2236
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:56,840
Speaker 6: I don't know, maybe I just looked it up real fast.

2237
01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 6: He was twenty one. I did not remember that fact.

2238
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 2: I always thought, you know, was great, But man, I

2239
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 2: thought Kellen Lewis was so damn damn dynamic. I mean, boy,

2240
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 2: and I know there was probably you know, some stuff

2241
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:09,160
Speaker 2: off the field, but boy, I thought, Kellen Lewis, you

2242
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 2: want to talk about a special talent?

2243
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 11: Are you always had those athletes at quarterbacks and good players,

2244
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 11: they always had it a receiver and then I always

2245
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 11: felt like it was either safety or like linebacker. And

2246
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 11: the point of what they've done though recently obviously, is

2247
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 11: bulk up the line, and as as Fernando Mendoza has

2248
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 11: mentioned many times, that's what's been a big game changer

2249
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 11: under his time here.

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Speaker 1: Scott thinks, have fun on this ride with Indiana. Great

2251
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:34,800
Speaker 1: job covering the pacers all the time. We'll talk to

2252
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:35,439
Speaker 1: you again soon.

2253
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 6: Appreciate it heading down there today. Thanks guys.

2254
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 1: Which way you going? By the way you're flying?

2255
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 6: No making the drive?

2256
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 1: Which which way are you going? You're going through? We

2257
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:46,240
Speaker 1: were been talking about this Knoxville or Nashville.

2258
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 11: Usually Nashville. I have not finalized the plans, but I

2259
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 11: assume that's the route.

2260
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 1: All right, buddy, have fun? All right, Thanks guys, go

2261
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:54,800
Speaker 1: Scott Aganae.

2262
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, changes like a boy, Nashville at

2263
01:43:58,080 --> 01:43:58,599
Speaker 3: all costs.

2264
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:01,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are parties. So they can start on a Monday.

2265
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 2: Lord knows they're starting on a Thursday.

2266
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2267
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 4: Last time I was in Nashville, that's when Joey Ericson

2268
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 4: had his jug of beer.

2269
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:12,200
Speaker 3: So was that how you illinoy? That was how Illinois

2270
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 3: And I kid you not.

2271
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:15,600
Speaker 4: And I have to get the name of this cold Stafford.

2272
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:17,720
Speaker 4: It's one of the equipment guys see all the time

2273
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 4: in the locker room and stuff like that. We're out

2274
01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 4: at this bar watching the.

2275
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:21,800
Speaker 2: I remember when he was talking to you at a

2276
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:23,920
Speaker 2: colts practice. He was talking to you know what to you?

2277
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he came over and was like.

2278
01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:27,840
Speaker 1: Who's hers?

2279
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh man, I didn't even know

2280
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:31,720
Speaker 4: you were here. So I had to eat a lot

2281
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:32,720
Speaker 4: of crow that night.

2282
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2283
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,200
Speaker 2: He was chirping at you in the end zone that

2284
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:37,160
Speaker 2: that one day in the indoor facility.

2285
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 3: I chirped for a month's ironed that.

2286
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 1: So I love about you as petty as you are.

2287
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 1: You accept the pettiness back.

2288
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 3: Hey, you got to stand on that.

2289
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 2: So this Washington QB, thank you. Who's your ninety sevent

2290
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 2: He is flirting with lsu Is that the thought here?

2291
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:51,120
Speaker 1: Yes?

2292
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 3: Oh, I did not know that. The plot dickens.

2293
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:55,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. And Lane Kiffin, oh.

2294
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 2: Man, the Lane Kiff and hate trained.

2295
01:44:57,520 --> 01:44:59,360
Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher talking about Lane Kiffin.

2296
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what that he snapped on September nineteenth.

2297
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:06,880
Speaker 2: Next year, LSU at Ole miss Oh my word.

2298
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 3: We might need like homeland security for that game.

2299
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:11,640
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to puy. Yeah, you're gonna have to

2300
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 2: put that man in secret service. Is gonna have to

2301
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:15,719
Speaker 2: get him in and out of that town.

2302
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 1: Think about this though, in the SEC Can you imagine

2303
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:21,559
Speaker 1: the negative recruiting it's gonna go on against Lane Kiffin

2304
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:23,800
Speaker 1: and LSU when they talk to every kid and go

2305
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 1: you think he cares about you, You think he cares

2306
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 1: about his kids. He had his kids in the in

2307
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 1: the college football playoff, leaves them at the doorstep of that,

2308
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 1: and then doesn't want to give them their best chance

2309
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 1: to win. Says now all my assistants have to come

2310
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:38,519
Speaker 1: with me. They're no longer a part of that.

2311
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 4: And then LSU puts another digit on the check. They'll

2312
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:43,479
Speaker 4: give you to come play for them, and you'll go

2313
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 4: play for them anyway.

2314
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 1: But Mississippi can do that too.

2315
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:48,240
Speaker 3: Probably no, they't not hanging out with LSU from NIOS.

2316
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 1: Maybe not, But I'm just saying the negative recruiting for

2317
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:53,240
Speaker 1: for a lot of kids is gonna it's gonna pay it.

2318
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:56,599
Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna as well as people think

2319
01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 1: for him.

2320
01:45:57,200 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 2: If we were in any other market outside whatever Eugene

2321
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:03,320
Speaker 2: Miami right now, if we are in any other market,

2322
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 2: I would be all in on Old Miss winning this

2323
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:09,240
Speaker 2: winning this title. Yeah, I mean all freaking in.

2324
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:11,720
Speaker 3: Do you think no?

2325
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:12,120
Speaker 1: Hell?

2326
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,599
Speaker 2: No, Lane Kiffin is not all in. He gives money

2327
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:18,720
Speaker 2: for them winning. No, No, he's got ego more than money.

2328
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 2: He would rather them. He wants a lost one thousand percent.

2329
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:25,639
Speaker 2: The portal's still open. He wants all those assistants back

2330
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 2: in Baton Rouge.

2331
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:27,640
Speaker 3: So which one does he want? He wants them to

2332
01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:28,599
Speaker 3: lose sooner or later.

2333
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:31,000
Speaker 4: Sooner gives a national championship, so I get all my

2334
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 4: bonuses up until the last one.

2335
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 2: And I think he's so you know what with Michael

2336
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:36,560
Speaker 2: Irvin on the sideline tonight.

2337
01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:37,840
Speaker 4: That is true, And shout out to Michael Irvin. I

2338
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 4: don't know where he gets the energy from, but he

2339
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:42,599
Speaker 4: is my favorite football player of all time for reasons

2340
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:43,879
Speaker 4: that are not related to football.

2341
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 3: He is entertaining on the hilarious human being.

2342
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 1: He and ray lewis hanging out together again on the

2343
01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 1: sidelines tonight.

2344
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 4: Possibly, but I wouldn't want to hang out with him

2345
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:54,080
Speaker 4: that That sounds like a lot We need Edge.

2346
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:56,840
Speaker 2: We need a MII fans partying with Edge in Miami

2347
01:46:56,960 --> 01:46:57,360
Speaker 2: next week.

2348
01:46:57,520 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 1: Best smile going right.

2349
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:00,400
Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever seen Edge without Shay. Shout

2350
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:02,439
Speaker 4: out to that man. He's always having a good time.

2351
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's check it down, Caleb and get ready

2352
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 1: to go for later today. And later today is a

2353
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:11,000
Speaker 1: press conference over at West fifty six with Chris Ballard

2354
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:13,639
Speaker 1: addressing the media that comes your way at eleven am.

2355
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 1: We will carry most of it or a lot of

2356
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:18,200
Speaker 1: it here on ninety three five and one o seven

2357
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Speaker 1: to five the fan, Kevin Bowen, what's gonna happen at

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Speaker 1: this press conference? Do you think is it more of

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01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 1: the same or do we get anything new, relevant different? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean I think it'll largely be more of the same.

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Speaker 2: But you know, again, are there actionable items that he

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01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 2: feels like is necessary? I mean, I do really believe

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01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 2: this about Balot. I do think he's one of the

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01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 2: more candid gms across the league. And you know that

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01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:44,240
Speaker 2: last year at this time he said, all right, free agency,

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Speaker 2: I need to do things differently. Are there any of those,

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Speaker 2: like very specific things that he feels like needs to

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Speaker 2: change or does he sit here and say, you know

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01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 2: what I changed last year. I did things differently and

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Speaker 2: then injuries happen.

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Speaker 1: That's probably where it goes, I would think.

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Speaker 2: Well, and obviously that would create a lot of disappointment

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01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 2: with yeah, with some fans out there, But that's kind

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01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 2: of how Carl Airs Gordon went on Monday. So will

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Speaker 2: Chris Ballard follow suit later today.

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Speaker 1: James, I'll ask you this. I know the next game

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Speaker 1: doesn't happen in a preseason since until the middle of

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01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:17,639
Speaker 1: August in the first game, isn't you know, we're still

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01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:20,679
Speaker 1: nine months away from that. But do we get any

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01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 1: kind of injury sense, whether it's Daniel Jones or how

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01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:27,679
Speaker 1: the Forest Buckner is recovering or those kinds of things

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Speaker 1: or Moony No, I'm just wondering long term, what are

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01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 1: we thinking on some of those big er injuries.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really, I really don't know.

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01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 4: I would say Daniel Jones is for sure going to

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Speaker 4: be the quarterback I would think in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 4: now is it from week one?

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure about that.

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Speaker 4: That's why the Ry Leonard question, or that the right

2390
01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:49,439
Speaker 4: Leonard decision comes into it. The Anthony Richardson future question

2391
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:51,599
Speaker 4: comes into it. But as far as the various war

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01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 4: into Forest Buckner, I don't think that we'll get concrete

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01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:55,680
Speaker 4: answers on those for quite some time. I know the

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01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 4: Forest Buckner posted yesterday on his Instagram that next year

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01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:02,840
Speaker 4: he will be quote complete, which indicates he would like

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01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:04,720
Speaker 4: to return and play. But again, the Colds have a

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01:49:04,760 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 4: lot of decisions to make regarding his future, considering how

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01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:09,200
Speaker 4: much money he'll make, and he's come off next surgery.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a look at that eleven am

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Speaker 1: this morning. You'll hear some of it right here in

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Speaker 1: ninety three five one oh seven five to the Fan.

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Speaker 1: College football semi finals get underway tonight Glyndell, Arizona, the

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01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 1: Fiesta Bowl Miami and Ole Miss And right now, Miami

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01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:25,080
Speaker 1: is favored by three and a half points. That one

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01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:28,360
Speaker 1: starts at seven thirty pm. You can watch it on ESPN,

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01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 1: and of course tomorrow night at the Peach Bowl Indiana

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01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 1: and Oregon in Atlanta. That's also a seven thirty pm kicktime.

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Speaker 1: Hoosiers favored by three and a half. You can listen

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Speaker 1: to it here at ninety three five and one oh

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01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 1: seven five the Fan. If you can't find a TV set,

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01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 1: we will talk to the TV play by play man

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Speaker 1: Sean McDonough tomorrow about this game. Hoosiers also favored by

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01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 1: three and a half points. Kevin, does that seem low

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01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:50,920
Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 2: I think it should be a little higher. Yeah, waiting five,

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Speaker 2: five and a half. Yeah, that's that's where I would

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Speaker 2: go again. I'll go back to the first game. I

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Speaker 2: know a lot of BA It's hard to beat a

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01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 2: team twice most penalized the season for Indiana, Charlie Becker

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01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 2: had not really a stout. Honestly, low key that a

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01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 2: lifeless rot injury might have been one of the best

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Speaker 2: things for Indiana the season because it allowed Charlie Becker

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01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 2: to get these opportunities. And now, you know, good luck

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Speaker 2: having your third corner guard Charlie Becker in the game,

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01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:19,760
Speaker 2: because that's pretty much what Indiana has created offensively. I'd

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Speaker 2: get the Indiana made a long field goal, Oregon made

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Speaker 2: miss kind of a short ish one in that game,

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Speaker 2: but still I felt like Indiana was the better team

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Speaker 2: in that contest. And yeah, if I had to give

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Speaker 2: a score prediction, out like Indiana by a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. My favorite stat of that game is Indiana forced

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01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 1: two turnovers, but also six sacks on Dante More.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to get him on the ground, and

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01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:43,080
Speaker 4: he had got sacked all year right until that game. Right,

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Speaker 4: And real quick, who's the best player left in the

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Speaker 4: Castle Wall playoff? Because I might think it's Rubin Bain

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01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:50,600
Speaker 4: for Miami and he scares me.

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Speaker 2: I'm heavily biased because he wrecked under Dame in Week one,

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01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:56,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, Ruben Bain, I would put certainly up there.

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01:50:56,800 --> 01:51:00,000
Speaker 2: Obviously for Nado Mendoza you would put high.

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01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 1: There is one of the four teams. If you rank

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01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 1: like the twenty best players in the end, it's probably

2443
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:05,720
Speaker 1: got like eight of them, don't they.

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Speaker 11: I don't.

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01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:10,599
Speaker 1: I have to look guys, you start talking about those

2446
01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:13,160
Speaker 1: wide receivers, some of the guys on defense, the Heisman

2447
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 1: Trophy winner, I'll bet you they got at least six

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Speaker 1: or seven of the top twenty.

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Speaker 3: Probably I don't know.

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01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 4: I actually don't know, but I just want to say

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01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:24,559
Speaker 4: that real quick, because Ruben Bay, in my opinion, is

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Speaker 4: the guy who scares me the most.

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Speaker 3: If Miami advanced.

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01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:28,719
Speaker 2: And a lot of people now you would face Tennis

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01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:30,040
Speaker 2: sort of pick potent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that dude, oh boy?

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01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, one thing, you get the four best teams

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01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 1: in college football. There's gonna be a lot of talent

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Speaker 1: on that field tonight and tomorrow night. There's no question

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01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:40,680
Speaker 1: about that, all right. Also, the Pacers playing tonight in

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01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:43,599
Speaker 1: Charlotte against the Horners or Hornets, they're trying to snap

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01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:46,839
Speaker 1: a thirteen game losing streak. Just talk to Scott Agnes

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01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 1: about that, and how do they get this done tonight?

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01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 1: Can what needs to happen? Is it just not turning

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01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:52,720
Speaker 1: the ball over?

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01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 6: Is it not?

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01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:55,880
Speaker 1: Is it for once and for all, not allowing that

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01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:59,320
Speaker 1: crucial second half run that other teams seem to have

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01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:01,720
Speaker 1: been getting during the entire losing streak. What do they do?

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Speaker 2: I mean, yes, certainly. And I also think you have

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01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:05,760
Speaker 2: to take advantage of the second night of the back

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01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,600
Speaker 2: to back. You know, Charlotte played last night an excruciating

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01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 2: loss for those that didn't see it. LaMelo Ball hits

2474
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:12,559
Speaker 2: a layup that looked to be the game winner. Emmanuel

2475
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 2: quickly for the Raptors, comes down the other end bangs

2476
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 2: home a three for the win right at the buzzer. So,

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01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:19,760
Speaker 2: you know, do you need to run them in? I

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01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 2: get the Charlotte's so maybe the younger team blah blah, blah,

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01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:23,760
Speaker 2: but no, I mean, can you kind of run them

2480
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 2: into the ground a little bit as you have had

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01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:28,520
Speaker 2: the day off. And we'll see about Brandon Miller's status.

2482
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:30,760
Speaker 2: He did not play last night. I was thought to

2483
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:32,960
Speaker 2: be playing and then late scratch at the knee injury.

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01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 2: So is he available tonight?

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Speaker 1: All right? If you missed it last night double header

2486
01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:38,719
Speaker 1: in a Big Ten on TV the only two games

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01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:40,880
Speaker 1: played in the Big Ten last night. In the first one,

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01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 1: Indiana beat Maryland eighty four to sixty six. Lamar Wilkerson

2489
01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:47,599
Speaker 1: had twenty four points, Tayton Connorway nineteen points, eight boards.

2490
01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:51,439
Speaker 1: Connor Enwright had sixteen points. Read Bailey at fifteen points,

2491
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 1: six rebounds. Text line likes your Joe dirt depiction of

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01:52:57,400 --> 01:52:58,519
Speaker 1: and right, tell you.

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01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:01,439
Speaker 2: What Joe dirt and he can play. It's scrappy. And

2494
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 2: he started to hit a couple open shots, which I

2495
01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:05,599
Speaker 2: think is really important. You know, Wilkerson and Deviries are

2496
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:08,599
Speaker 2: going to get so much attention naturally, so that allows

2497
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 2: Taton Connorway to you know, be more of a score.

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01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:13,720
Speaker 2: And again Connor Enwright, I thought on both ends was

2499
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 2: really key. I know Wilkerson hit had that flurry there

2500
01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:18,360
Speaker 2: in the second half that really broke the game open.

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01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 2: But I thought Connor Enwright was really key. So first

2502
01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 2: true road win of the season for Indiana, Miles Rice

2503
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:30,280
Speaker 2: two points and fifteen minutes against his former team, And

2504
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:33,560
Speaker 2: now Indiana and Purdue both really enter a gauntlet. I

2505
01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:36,400
Speaker 2: leave Indiana, seven of their next eight fall into that

2506
01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 2: quad one opportunity. Perdue will have Penn State this weekend,

2507
01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:43,400
Speaker 2: and then they start to get much more difficult. To

2508
01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:45,280
Speaker 2: think they've got that West coast trip coming up next week.

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01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:47,080
Speaker 1: Until I was watched the game last I had totally

2510
01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:49,679
Speaker 1: forgotten that Rice was back on Maryland.

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01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:52,400
Speaker 2: Now so crazy, Welcome to college sports.

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01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, number five Perdue winning last night at home. They

2513
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:59,160
Speaker 1: beat Washington eighty one seventy three. Braden Smith, honored before

2514
01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:01,320
Speaker 1: the game, is the big t all time assists leader.

2515
01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 1: Scored twenty three points, had seven assists, did get into

2516
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 1: early foul trouble, did turn the ball over six times.

2517
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 1: But what I love about great players in Bradon Smith

2518
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:12,479
Speaker 1: not his best game, but he still was a big contributor.

2519
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 4: Exactly, And there's probably nobody I would trust more. When

2520
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:19,000
Speaker 4: you get into those big moments, big games is considering

2521
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:22,599
Speaker 4: the level of experience that he's had, and boy will

2522
01:54:22,640 --> 01:54:24,920
Speaker 4: he be missed when he's gone, which makes this season

2523
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:28,679
Speaker 4: all the more interesting and exciting considering what the stake

2524
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:29,480
Speaker 4: for this program.

2525
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 1: And big Indiana player playing for Yukon right now had

2526
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 1: a big night last night too, Kevin Boonen.

2527
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brayln Bullen's outstanding. One of the better games in

2528
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:39,360
Speaker 2: college basketball last night was Yukon and Providence. Yukon coming

2529
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:43,480
Speaker 2: back to win that game. Braylon Bullen's twenty four points,

2530
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 2: sixty three pointers.

2531
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 4: I will say, I am so glad I got to

2532
01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:50,560
Speaker 4: see him last year when it only costs like eight dollars.

2533
01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:53,040
Speaker 1: That's an a great part about Indiana sports, hey.

2534
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:54,840
Speaker 4: Man, there's always somebody going to the league. I've seen

2535
01:54:54,840 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 4: a couple of those Pipe players this year, those future

2536
01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 4: NBA players as well. Over there being coached by Jeff Tige.

2537
01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:03,960
Speaker 1: Right. That wraps up the checkdown right now. Coming up

2538
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 1: in a moment, a fun look at Fernando Mendoza and

2539
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:10,360
Speaker 1: Indiana football as they get ready to play the semi

2540
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 1: final tomorrow night. We'll do it next at ninety three

2541
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:16,800
Speaker 1: five and one O seven fan the song shooting back

2542
01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 1: up the streaming list on just about every streaming service

2543
01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:24,440
Speaker 1: this past year. I point out again that Indiana's alumni

2544
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:27,000
Speaker 1: base is the largest in the country, James, of any

2545
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 1: school anywhere, it's the largest alumni pace in the country.

2546
01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 1: And this is true. Again, it is true.

2547
01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 4: Look at every university says that, but I wouldn't doubt

2548
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:37,440
Speaker 4: it when it comes to IU.

2549
01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 1: It's true. And we've been hearing this song and it's

2550
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:44,200
Speaker 1: become kind of attached to Fernando Mendoza again, and as

2551
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:46,680
Speaker 1: he gets ready for the semi the semi final football

2552
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:50,000
Speaker 1: game tomorrow night against Oregon, he was asked his thoughts

2553
01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:54,520
Speaker 1: on the Abbas song from the seventies. Fernando, do you

2554
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 1: have any thoughts on NFL team fan bases that are

2555
01:55:57,400 --> 01:55:59,160
Speaker 1: singing that song hoping that you're here.

2556
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 2: At which by that, yeah, I mean it's a great song.

2557
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:03,040
Speaker 12: But I've heard it, you know, a little throughout my

2558
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 12: high school career, and then you know, early in my

2559
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 12: college career was kind of like a joke with all

2560
01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 12: all my friends and now just accelerated to a whole

2561
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 12: another level. So I mean, I bet it a was

2562
01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:14,240
Speaker 12: like checking their phone like, wow, this sounds He had

2563
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 12: a lot of plays all of a sudden So I

2564
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:17,520
Speaker 12: mean it's it's great.

2565
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:19,240
Speaker 1: I think it's, you know, a funny.

2566
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:21,640
Speaker 12: Sign fan song, not like fan song, but a funny

2567
01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:24,040
Speaker 12: song that everybody could get right around, especially how you

2568
01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 12: fanned him.

2569
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:27,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, I always whether he's talking about that or

2570
01:56:28,240 --> 01:56:30,760
Speaker 1: dinosaurs or whatever it is, how do you not like

2571
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 1: this kid? Like, how can you possibly not like Fernando

2572
01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:37,240
Speaker 1: Mendoza and root for him? Is just a person and

2573
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 1: a player.

2574
01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:39,840
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you if you're organ and you're on

2575
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:41,400
Speaker 3: the other side, I hate him. I don't want to

2576
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 3: see him succeed. I will say this.

2577
01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:46,480
Speaker 4: In addition to the song he just referenced, someone asked

2578
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:50,000
Speaker 4: him if he has a hype song for games, and

2579
01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:51,640
Speaker 4: he said he doesn't listen to music.

2580
01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:54,360
Speaker 3: He just talks to God. And I was like, boy,

2581
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:56,040
Speaker 3: that would terrify me.

2582
01:56:56,320 --> 01:57:01,040
Speaker 4: I've an opponent like, huh, like you don't music. I

2583
01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:02,879
Speaker 4: talked to God about what I'm gonna do to you guys.

2584
01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 4: That's pretty crazy.

2585
01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:06,440
Speaker 1: I saw an Oregon fan cat that suggested the best

2586
01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:08,800
Speaker 1: way to stop frenanoms doz is in the middle of

2587
01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:10,880
Speaker 1: the game, ask him to give him his thoughts on

2588
01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:13,520
Speaker 1: the latest dinosaur discovery and might get a delay of

2589
01:57:13,600 --> 01:57:17,400
Speaker 1: game because he goes into hiss on those things. Man.

2590
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:20,000
Speaker 1: But no, Kevin, it's just we talk about what a

2591
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:22,480
Speaker 1: great story it is. But he's just he's a different

2592
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:24,320
Speaker 1: cat and I love that. I just love that he's

2593
01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:25,959
Speaker 1: authentically himself.

2594
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:28,520
Speaker 2: No apology, one thousand percent. I think he's one of

2595
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:34,240
Speaker 2: the more unique individuals that we've had in college football.

2596
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 2: And obviously when you couple his play, it just adds

2597
01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:40,280
Speaker 2: the story. I was at a wedding a few weeks back.

2598
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:45,000
Speaker 2: It was an IU man married in Ohio state woman

2599
01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:49,440
Speaker 2: and we had the Abba Fernando song played at the wedding.

2600
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:53,000
Speaker 2: So I think a groom got a little uh fortunate

2601
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:55,880
Speaker 2: there on the old musical choices. But yeah, I'm gonna

2602
01:57:55,880 --> 01:57:58,080
Speaker 2: guess is Ava still performing?

2603
01:57:59,120 --> 01:58:01,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question.

2604
01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if they are going to hell of

2605
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:04,640
Speaker 2: a run maybe a little five hundred this year. You

2606
01:58:04,640 --> 01:58:09,080
Speaker 2: can get Abba and done meatal or tailgate fields there

2607
01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:09,920
Speaker 2: to perform.

2608
01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 1: Oh man, this is one thing. And we'll tell you

2609
01:58:12,760 --> 01:58:16,200
Speaker 1: about Fernando Mendoza. We all know about his Heisman Trophy

2610
01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:19,080
Speaker 1: winner against the ap Top twenty five and he's played

2611
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:23,440
Speaker 1: this year. He's averaging almost seventy three percent completion percentage

2612
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:25,640
Speaker 1: against the top the best teams in the country.

2613
01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:31,600
Speaker 4: That's his thing, accuracy and the old yioughta when he's

2614
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:34,840
Speaker 4: running and I'm just like, get down. So I'm very

2615
01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:37,040
Speaker 4: curious to see what his legs will do in that

2616
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 4: game and how they can flip the game tomorrow when

2617
01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:40,320
Speaker 4: it comes to the Oregon matchup.

2618
01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then again a crazy stat. I know, he

2619
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:45,640
Speaker 1: only threw the ball sixteen times, but he had more

2620
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:48,640
Speaker 1: touchdown passes than incompletions in the last game.

2621
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:50,640
Speaker 2: Well, and he's had several of those games this season,

2622
01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:54,360
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken. Obviously, doing against Alabama's a different story.

2623
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:57,080
Speaker 2: And you know, I'll keep on coming back to this point,

2624
01:58:57,320 --> 01:58:58,880
Speaker 2: and I hope I'm not just kind of beating a

2625
01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:01,280
Speaker 2: dead horse. But for those that have been totally plugged

2626
01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:02,960
Speaker 2: into us in hell, for those that are maybe on

2627
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:05,760
Speaker 2: the road right now to the atl I think a

2628
01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:08,680
Speaker 2: huge advantage for Indiana in preparation. This is one of

2629
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:12,280
Speaker 2: the more chaotic weeks in college football, whether you're still

2630
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:16,600
Speaker 2: playing or not. The portal is pure chaos, pure and

2631
01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:17,960
Speaker 2: utter chaos.

2632
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:19,520
Speaker 3: And what do you mean?

2633
01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:22,040
Speaker 4: It seems very calm for Washington and the player that

2634
01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:25,040
Speaker 4: they want who acts to be out let out of

2635
01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 4: his contract that he signed, and people trying to sue

2636
01:59:28,360 --> 01:59:29,600
Speaker 4: universities and vice versa.

2637
01:59:29,680 --> 01:59:30,120
Speaker 3: It's great.

2638
01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:35,400
Speaker 2: It is utter chaos. And you have Indiana with staff retention.

2639
01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:38,960
Speaker 2: Their offensive coordinator is going nowhere, he just resigned. Their

2640
01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:42,400
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator is going nowhere. He just resigned. So their

2641
01:59:42,440 --> 01:59:45,240
Speaker 2: prep is all in on the second meeting with the

2642
01:59:45,240 --> 01:59:49,320
Speaker 2: Oregon Ducks. Whereas out in Oregon you have their offensive coordinator.

2643
01:59:49,440 --> 01:59:52,680
Speaker 2: Will Stein is the new head coach at Kentucky. So

2644
01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:55,680
Speaker 2: will Stein has literally been going back and forth. Can

2645
01:59:55,720 --> 01:59:59,360
Speaker 2: you imagine flights from Lexington to Eugene. Don't think that's

2646
01:59:59,400 --> 02:00:02,360
Speaker 2: probably the easy his trek, but that's the reality for him.

2647
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:05,160
Speaker 2: And you want to talk about portal chaos. Kentucky's had

2648
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:07,360
Speaker 2: some of the most notre dame quarterback Kenny Menshi, who

2649
02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:10,120
Speaker 2: almost was the starter a CJ. Carr beat him out.

2650
02:00:10,360 --> 02:00:13,520
Speaker 2: He initially committed to Nebraska in the portal and next

2651
02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:16,760
Speaker 2: thing you know, he's now a Kentucky Wildcat. So for

2652
02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:19,320
Speaker 2: will Stein, the OC for Oregon, who will be the

2653
02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:23,400
Speaker 2: play caller tomorrow night, he's juggling both their defensive coordinator

2654
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:26,960
Speaker 2: TODs Lupo. He is juggling both as well. He is

2655
02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:30,840
Speaker 2: the new coach at cal Here. So I think that

2656
02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:35,560
Speaker 2: is another massive advantage for Indiana. Their coaching staff all

2657
02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:38,840
Speaker 2: in on the Peach Bowl and playing a week from

2658
02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:43,240
Speaker 2: Monday in Miami. Where's the Oregon staff? I mean in Nevilee, Guys.

2659
02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:46,360
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, James Boyd, you weren't born yesterday. If

2660
02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:49,280
Speaker 2: you're Will Stein and you sit there in your office

2661
02:00:49,320 --> 02:00:53,600
Speaker 2: and think, Hmmm, I have this job potentially for another

2662
02:00:53,680 --> 02:00:57,000
Speaker 2: forty eight hours. I have the next job for the

2663
02:00:57,040 --> 02:01:00,840
Speaker 2: potentially the next five years. Should I watch thirty more

2664
02:01:00,880 --> 02:01:05,160
Speaker 2: minutes of Bryant Haynes's third down blitz packages? Or should

2665
02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:10,600
Speaker 2: I watch Portal film on potentially adding to my new job?

2666
02:01:10,960 --> 02:01:12,120
Speaker 2: Which one you're gonna choose?

2667
02:01:12,520 --> 02:01:13,680
Speaker 3: Gotta go Portal.

2668
02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:15,600
Speaker 1: Because that's your job now. Yep.

2669
02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:18,720
Speaker 2: So that is advantage Indiana in my.

2670
02:01:18,720 --> 02:01:20,720
Speaker 1: But you'd think so. I also just wanted to point

2671
02:01:20,720 --> 02:01:22,880
Speaker 1: out one last thing on Banana Mendoza. The last time

2672
02:01:22,920 --> 02:01:26,520
Speaker 1: I saw him in person twenty two of twenty four

2673
02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:29,880
Speaker 1: for two hundred ninety nine yards against Wisconsin, was down

2674
02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:31,880
Speaker 1: there and watched that game and it's.

2675
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:34,200
Speaker 2: Just like you need to be in atlantanim one. I know, man,

2676
02:01:34,320 --> 02:01:39,240
Speaker 2: let's go for the good luck charm. But yeah, I mean,

2677
02:01:40,680 --> 02:01:45,680
Speaker 2: is John Harbong gonna view Fernando Mendoza as hmm, I

2678
02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:49,360
Speaker 2: think I want the Raiders' job. Is Fernana Mendoza that

2679
02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:50,120
Speaker 2: type of prospect?

2680
02:01:50,120 --> 02:01:53,920
Speaker 1: Do you want? Maybe? Or do you If you're John Harbody,

2681
02:01:53,960 --> 02:01:55,760
Speaker 1: you say, hey, I like what Jackson dark brought the

2682
02:01:55,800 --> 02:01:57,440
Speaker 1: Giants right here. I like that too.

2683
02:01:57,480 --> 02:02:01,840
Speaker 4: I don't think he's that type of prospect because I

2684
02:02:01,880 --> 02:02:04,400
Speaker 4: will admit it's probably sort of a down year when

2685
02:02:04,440 --> 02:02:07,000
Speaker 4: it comes to the Heisman Trophy and the top quarterbacks.

2686
02:02:07,160 --> 02:02:09,040
Speaker 4: No disrespect to Frenada Mendoz, I think it could be

2687
02:02:09,080 --> 02:02:12,320
Speaker 4: a fine NFL quarterback, but he doesn't appear to be

2688
02:02:12,360 --> 02:02:15,520
Speaker 4: like the slam dunk that was, for example, Joe Burrow

2689
02:02:16,360 --> 02:02:19,600
Speaker 4: or even Lamar Jackson was a late first round pick,

2690
02:02:19,640 --> 02:02:22,760
Speaker 4: but guys who had really I think put it on

2691
02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:24,880
Speaker 4: other teams when it comes to the Heisman numbers and

2692
02:02:24,920 --> 02:02:27,560
Speaker 4: the producing and stuff like that. But it certainly is

2693
02:02:27,640 --> 02:02:29,840
Speaker 4: a factor that I think could help you know, if

2694
02:02:29,840 --> 02:02:33,120
Speaker 4: you're the incoming coaching you get to pick your next

2695
02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:34,400
Speaker 4: franchise quarterback potentially.

2696
02:02:34,640 --> 02:02:35,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a factor.

2697
02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:38,400
Speaker 1: The other thing that I'm always amazed at when you

2698
02:02:38,440 --> 02:02:42,080
Speaker 1: look at Fernanda Mendoze, you see the goofy, kid like

2699
02:02:42,240 --> 02:02:44,480
Speaker 1: nature that he has, which I love and I've fallen

2700
02:02:44,480 --> 02:02:46,880
Speaker 1: in love with that part of his personality and what

2701
02:02:46,920 --> 02:02:50,160
Speaker 1: he brings, and the fact that his teammates love him

2702
02:02:50,320 --> 02:02:53,880
Speaker 1: and that he's just himself authentically, Like we forget. He's

2703
02:02:53,920 --> 02:02:56,280
Speaker 1: a big dude with a strong arm. He's six five

2704
02:02:56,360 --> 02:02:58,360
Speaker 1: two twenty five and he can sling the rock.

2705
02:02:58,960 --> 02:03:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, with d Brugler on, I think, well,

2706
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:04,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe we'd have data on But like

2707
02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:06,920
Speaker 2: Fernando Mendos was thought to be a draft prospect entering

2708
02:03:06,920 --> 02:03:10,080
Speaker 2: this season, like it's not the most foreign thought in

2709
02:03:10,120 --> 02:03:12,600
Speaker 2: the world. Now number one overall pick and Heisman Trophy winner.

2710
02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:15,480
Speaker 2: That's obviously in a different stratus hehere. But I mean,

2711
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:17,880
Speaker 2: you know, to go back to last year, honestly, it

2712
02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:19,880
Speaker 2: might have been a benefit for Indiana losing to Notre

2713
02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:23,360
Speaker 2: Dame in that they were able to inc up Fernando

2714
02:03:23,400 --> 02:03:28,760
Speaker 2: Mendoza on Christmas Eve from a portal standpoint, and Georgia

2715
02:03:29,120 --> 02:03:33,040
Speaker 2: was thought to be the other team really and Georgia

2716
02:03:33,160 --> 02:03:35,240
Speaker 2: was still in the playoffs, they were getting ready to

2717
02:03:35,240 --> 02:03:37,120
Speaker 2: play Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl, and Georgia still

2718
02:03:37,120 --> 02:03:40,200
Speaker 2: had the awkward Carson Beck's that'sn't Bennett thing. You know,

2719
02:03:40,240 --> 02:03:41,400
Speaker 2: they're kind of, well.

2720
02:03:41,480 --> 02:03:42,960
Speaker 1: You can't, I'm Gunner stock that I think.

2721
02:03:43,400 --> 02:03:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, Gunner Stocking, thank you. You know that it

2722
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:49,120
Speaker 2: was just awkward for them. And obviously it played out

2723
02:03:49,120 --> 02:03:51,920
Speaker 2: where Carson Beck and then went to Miami and Gunner

2724
02:03:51,960 --> 02:03:55,080
Speaker 2: Stockton is their quarterback here, so you know that was

2725
02:03:55,160 --> 02:03:56,920
Speaker 2: a benefit. And you know, obviously we've seen this year,

2726
02:03:56,960 --> 02:04:00,240
Speaker 2: Indiana's gotten the kid from TCU and I you don't

2727
02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:02,480
Speaker 2: pay a dude four million dollars not to start next year, right,

2728
02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:05,280
Speaker 2: So it's crazy for Albert though, Mendoz.

2729
02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:07,680
Speaker 1: You know, even before this year of craziness with transfer

2730
02:04:07,720 --> 02:04:10,480
Speaker 1: portals and things like that, when you look at quarterbacks

2731
02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:13,560
Speaker 1: who have transferred schools just even in the last decade,

2732
02:04:13,640 --> 02:04:20,560
Speaker 1: that there's almost a vortexa Ohio State, Oklahoma, Alabama, Georgia

2733
02:04:20,960 --> 02:04:23,080
Speaker 1: and now to think that Indiana has been a part

2734
02:04:23,080 --> 02:04:26,240
Speaker 1: of that. With Georgia figuring out what to do and

2735
02:04:26,360 --> 02:04:30,280
Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza ends up coming here. The quarterback situation, even

2736
02:04:30,280 --> 02:04:32,960
Speaker 1: before the portal nonsense that we've seen the last two years.

2737
02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:36,120
Speaker 1: It's always been crazy, it seems in the last decade. Well.

2738
02:04:36,160 --> 02:04:38,720
Speaker 2: In this tweet from Zach Osterman right now they're having

2739
02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:41,600
Speaker 2: their final press conference down there in Atlanta, said both

2740
02:04:41,640 --> 02:04:46,520
Speaker 2: coaches asked about contract and forcibility not as well labeled

2741
02:04:46,520 --> 02:04:49,280
Speaker 2: the Washington quarterback for the reason that that question is

2742
02:04:49,320 --> 02:04:52,480
Speaker 2: being asked Ostra and tweeted here. Neither coach wants to

2743
02:04:52,520 --> 02:04:56,480
Speaker 2: engage much, but Signetty does offer. Obviously there's a lot

2744
02:04:56,480 --> 02:04:58,320
Speaker 2: of loose ends that needs to be tied up in

2745
02:04:58,360 --> 02:05:01,000
Speaker 2: the whole recruiting process. If you're I think that's the

2746
02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:03,320
Speaker 2: most politically correct way the day before the game to

2747
02:05:03,360 --> 02:05:05,800
Speaker 2: say this is utter chaos, and even though my program

2748
02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:08,840
Speaker 2: is benefiting from it immensely, we need to figure it out.

2749
02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:11,280
Speaker 1: And not only that, this is one of those things

2750
02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:13,360
Speaker 1: anything you say or do can be used against you

2751
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:16,320
Speaker 1: in the future. You don't want to say anything publicly

2752
02:05:16,400 --> 02:05:19,080
Speaker 1: right now that could come back to haunt you if

2753
02:05:19,120 --> 02:05:21,320
Speaker 1: you're in the midst of some kind of contract dispute

2754
02:05:21,320 --> 02:05:22,440
Speaker 1: in the next couple of years too.

2755
02:05:22,520 --> 02:05:25,320
Speaker 2: Kevin Legal teams right around the corner, right, don't.

2756
02:05:25,080 --> 02:05:26,480
Speaker 1: Say anything that's whatever you look.

2757
02:05:26,560 --> 02:05:28,520
Speaker 4: You don't find it funny though that Again, a lot of

2758
02:05:28,680 --> 02:05:31,520
Speaker 4: coaches will talk a big game and then pivot as

2759
02:05:31,520 --> 02:05:34,560
Speaker 4: soon as it benefits them. For example, the Texas coach

2760
02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:37,839
Speaker 4: or sarkis in he was went on the Pivot podcast

2761
02:05:37,920 --> 02:05:41,160
Speaker 4: and said, if a Texas player enters the portal, they

2762
02:05:41,200 --> 02:05:43,440
Speaker 4: can't come back. And I just saw a Texas defensive

2763
02:05:43,440 --> 02:05:45,760
Speaker 4: back come back to the university after going to the portal.

2764
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:47,920
Speaker 4: So it all depends on how relatively good you are.

2765
02:05:48,080 --> 02:05:49,760
Speaker 4: You're a great player, you go to the portal and

2766
02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:51,200
Speaker 4: we want you to come back. And you say, you

2767
02:05:51,200 --> 02:05:52,920
Speaker 4: know what I think, I do like Texas and I

2768
02:05:53,000 --> 02:05:54,360
Speaker 4: want to raise to come back to Texas.

2769
02:05:54,840 --> 02:05:56,839
Speaker 3: They'll have you a liar.

2770
02:05:57,520 --> 02:05:59,240
Speaker 1: All right, Final thoughts coming up in just a moment

2771
02:05:59,280 --> 02:06:01,320
Speaker 1: here as we continue to wrap up a Thursday Chris

2772
02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:03,840
Speaker 1: Ballard press conference on the way at eleven o'clock, and

2773
02:06:03,960 --> 02:06:05,560
Speaker 1: we'll tell you more about that next to ninety three

2774
02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:08,960
Speaker 1: five and one o seven five the Fan. We've been

2775
02:06:08,960 --> 02:06:12,440
Speaker 1: talking about the college football playoff all morning long, obvious reasons,

2776
02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:15,280
Speaker 1: and the Chris Ballard press conference coming up at eleven

2777
02:06:15,320 --> 02:06:18,640
Speaker 1: o'clock I know we had double header for basketball last night. Kevin,

2778
02:06:18,680 --> 02:06:20,960
Speaker 1: with all with all the things going on in your

2779
02:06:21,000 --> 02:06:23,960
Speaker 1: house and three kids now and college basketball, do you

2780
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:26,480
Speaker 1: have time to even watch anything other than just sports

2781
02:06:26,480 --> 02:06:28,280
Speaker 1: at this point in time, you and Maddie ever sit

2782
02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:30,120
Speaker 1: down and just watch a TV show of any kind?

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02:06:30,440 --> 02:06:32,520
Speaker 7: Now, you have a life, Kevin, life serious.

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02:06:32,960 --> 02:06:35,200
Speaker 1: I said that as a guy, Ken, I say that

2785
02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:36,880
Speaker 1: as a guy who's been there. I know what he's

2786
02:06:36,920 --> 02:06:37,360
Speaker 1: going through.

2787
02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:39,400
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm not I'm right there with him. I shouldn't

2788
02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:41,280
Speaker 2: be throwing rocks when you.

2789
02:06:41,240 --> 02:06:43,560
Speaker 1: Have three kids under four corrector five?

2790
02:06:44,120 --> 02:06:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rosie's five five, three.

2791
02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:48,440
Speaker 1: Kids under five, and you're doing what he does and

2792
02:06:48,480 --> 02:06:52,000
Speaker 1: it's still football season until certainly this press conference comes

2793
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:54,880
Speaker 1: today and you're watching college basketball and you have this

2794
02:06:54,960 --> 02:06:57,200
Speaker 1: job and you got to keep up everything. It's tough

2795
02:06:57,240 --> 02:06:58,720
Speaker 1: to do other things, isn't it. That's why I was

2796
02:06:58,720 --> 02:07:00,440
Speaker 1: so impressive. Up.

2797
02:07:00,840 --> 02:07:03,080
Speaker 2: I love this job, been there, very lucky to have

2798
02:07:03,160 --> 02:07:05,800
Speaker 2: this job. So yeah, let me make that abundantly clear.

2799
02:07:06,160 --> 02:07:07,920
Speaker 2: Uh And yeah, I wake up.

2800
02:07:08,080 --> 02:07:13,040
Speaker 4: And doing brain starts return on the Mico Maddie for holding.

2801
02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:16,400
Speaker 1: Now, if you've had a chance to watch anything other

2802
02:07:16,480 --> 02:07:17,520
Speaker 1: than sports.

2803
02:07:17,120 --> 02:07:18,840
Speaker 2: But to answer your question, there's not a lot of

2804
02:07:19,240 --> 02:07:22,160
Speaker 2: rom coms that were dialing up in the boat a

2805
02:07:22,200 --> 02:07:22,560
Speaker 2: little bit.

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02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:22,720
Speaker 5: Man.

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02:07:22,760 --> 02:07:24,880
Speaker 1: What about you as a single guy, what have you

2808
02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:25,760
Speaker 1: been watching lately?

2809
02:07:26,080 --> 02:07:27,720
Speaker 3: I watched lamb Man finished season two.

2810
02:07:27,760 --> 02:07:29,840
Speaker 4: I think it's over. It might be that show is

2811
02:07:29,880 --> 02:07:31,360
Speaker 4: all over the place. I think season two has not

2812
02:07:31,400 --> 02:07:34,720
Speaker 4: been as good as season one. Finished Pluribus on Apple TV,

2813
02:07:35,080 --> 02:07:36,360
Speaker 4: and yeah, life is great.

2814
02:07:36,440 --> 02:07:37,120
Speaker 3: You have your kids.

2815
02:07:37,160 --> 02:07:39,560
Speaker 1: So I bring that up because this week I just

2816
02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:40,520
Speaker 1: started Kevin.

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02:07:40,560 --> 02:07:44,280
Speaker 4: I'm telling you you sitting the heartbeat, the blowout. You

2818
02:07:44,320 --> 02:07:45,919
Speaker 4: to figure out how I get through the blowout.

2819
02:07:45,960 --> 02:07:47,520
Speaker 3: But I'm up for a challenge.

2820
02:07:48,440 --> 02:07:51,120
Speaker 1: Recently I asked that and you brought up Plurbs. I

2821
02:07:51,240 --> 02:07:55,040
Speaker 1: started watching that this week. I'm four episodes in. That's

2822
02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:58,680
Speaker 1: a freaky show. Those first couple of episodes are freaky, man.

2823
02:07:58,840 --> 02:07:59,360
Speaker 3: Wild show.

2824
02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:01,000
Speaker 4: Makes you think gonna have to pay attention to that

2825
02:08:01,080 --> 02:08:03,120
Speaker 4: show for sure. But as far as we will be

2826
02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:05,800
Speaker 4: on the TV tonight and other nights throughout the rest

2827
02:08:05,840 --> 02:08:07,360
Speaker 4: of the weekend, it will be all sports.

2828
02:08:07,480 --> 02:08:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a big sports weekend coming up. We've talked

2829
02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:12,880
Speaker 1: about the college football semi finals. Then of course playoff

2830
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:17,960
Speaker 1: time playoff time for the National Football League, and uh,

2831
02:08:18,040 --> 02:08:22,120
Speaker 1: you've got two games on Saturday, two on Sunday, or

2832
02:08:22,120 --> 02:08:24,800
Speaker 1: we got three on Sunday, right, what is that? I

2833
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:27,680
Speaker 1: know you got one on Monday three one two three one. Yeah.

2834
02:08:27,920 --> 02:08:30,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, they you know, just settle into the old

2835
02:08:30,400 --> 02:08:32,560
Speaker 1: easy chair and I may have to watch one of

2836
02:08:32,560 --> 02:08:34,840
Speaker 1: those those games as well on the exercise bike if

2837
02:08:34,880 --> 02:08:36,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to get anything done with that.

2838
02:08:36,640 --> 02:08:39,120
Speaker 2: Guys, got a favorite wild Card weekend game.

2839
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:42,920
Speaker 1: I will be at the Now it's not going to

2840
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:44,920
Speaker 1: be the best game, but I'll be at the Carolina

2841
02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:50,640
Speaker 1: and uh Rams game. Wow. Well not only because one

2842
02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:54,640
Speaker 1: of the other stations Monday, Yeah right, he's Charlotte's want

2843
02:08:54,680 --> 02:08:57,640
Speaker 1: a playoff game Indianapolis, But I am Charlotte is one

2844
02:08:57,640 --> 02:09:00,240
Speaker 1: of the other markets that I that I consult go

2845
02:09:00,320 --> 02:09:02,240
Speaker 1: see And so I thought, well, I'm gonna be there

2846
02:09:02,280 --> 02:09:04,600
Speaker 1: next Monday and Tuesday. Anyway, I'll just go earlier and

2847
02:09:04,640 --> 02:09:05,440
Speaker 1: go to the playoff game.

2848
02:09:05,600 --> 02:09:08,080
Speaker 4: Yeah right, you know he had to go consultancy and

2849
02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:09,040
Speaker 4: then he had to go look early.

2850
02:09:09,120 --> 02:09:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it.

2851
02:09:10,120 --> 02:09:12,600
Speaker 3: You you you're two birds one stone. You're a smart man.

2852
02:09:13,280 --> 02:09:13,520
Speaker 3: The game.

2853
02:09:13,520 --> 02:09:17,720
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the game.

2854
02:09:17,720 --> 02:09:19,720
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to the most is probably Bills Jaguars

2855
02:09:20,360 --> 02:09:22,400
Speaker 4: because Bill's I think you have the best player in

2856
02:09:22,440 --> 02:09:24,960
Speaker 4: the playoffs and Josh Allen and then the Jaguars have

2857
02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:27,400
Speaker 4: been playing better football than them over the last month

2858
02:09:27,480 --> 02:09:28,760
Speaker 4: or so, so that should be a good one.

2859
02:09:28,840 --> 02:09:31,480
Speaker 10: I was gonna say, James, I heard somebody put it

2860
02:09:31,560 --> 02:09:34,280
Speaker 10: like this. Has there ever been a six seed in

2861
02:09:34,320 --> 02:09:37,400
Speaker 10: the history of the NFL with more pressure on them.

2862
02:09:37,240 --> 02:09:38,520
Speaker 2: Than the Buffalo Bills.

2863
02:09:38,360 --> 02:09:42,120
Speaker 10: It's it's hard to pinpoint that, and uh yeah, there's

2864
02:09:42,160 --> 02:09:43,520
Speaker 10: a lot on the line there.

2865
02:09:43,360 --> 02:09:44,280
Speaker 3: And I do want to know.

2866
02:09:44,560 --> 02:09:46,320
Speaker 4: Feel free to weigh in, Guys, should I make the

2867
02:09:46,400 --> 02:09:49,120
Speaker 4: drive home to watch this game with my family Bears

2868
02:09:49,160 --> 02:09:50,080
Speaker 4: Packers or you either.

2869
02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:51,520
Speaker 2: Got to watch it with your dad or Mark.

2870
02:09:52,000 --> 02:09:53,880
Speaker 4: Like, my dad isn't a Bear fan, He just he

2871
02:09:53,920 --> 02:09:57,400
Speaker 4: loves Mark with you. But I'm like, boy, my uncle

2872
02:09:57,480 --> 02:09:59,600
Speaker 4: and my cousins and the rest of my family, they're

2873
02:09:59,640 --> 02:10:02,200
Speaker 4: like they will be in the Caleb Williams jerseys. They

2874
02:10:02,240 --> 02:10:04,960
Speaker 4: will have the cheese greater hats on and boy, if

2875
02:10:05,000 --> 02:10:07,160
Speaker 4: they win or lose, it will be mussy TV for me.

2876
02:10:07,360 --> 02:10:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think so many of these games

2877
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:11,880
Speaker 2: are compelling. I think it's sneaky one for me is

2878
02:10:11,920 --> 02:10:15,040
Speaker 2: Sunday night, and that's Chargers. Is the seven at New

2879
02:10:15,120 --> 02:10:18,320
Speaker 2: England as the two you know we talk AFC quarterbacks.

2880
02:10:19,760 --> 02:10:24,840
Speaker 2: Are we now officially talking Drake May? Are we officially

2881
02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:29,920
Speaker 2: talking Justin Herbert? Or is it still Alan Burrow, Mahomes

2882
02:10:30,120 --> 02:10:34,320
Speaker 2: Lamar and the teer? You know, like you know, Herbert

2883
02:10:34,360 --> 02:10:36,600
Speaker 2: and Drake May, and they're they're knocking on that door.

2884
02:10:36,640 --> 02:10:38,160
Speaker 2: And if one of them all of a sudden they're playing,

2885
02:10:38,320 --> 02:10:40,760
Speaker 2: you know, two weeks from Sunday, then they're really knocking

2886
02:10:40,800 --> 02:10:42,680
Speaker 2: on that door. So I think that's a great one.

2887
02:10:42,720 --> 02:10:45,200
Speaker 2: And obviously Pittsburgh, I mean James pointed out several times

2888
02:10:45,240 --> 02:10:48,520
Speaker 2: they're losing streak. I mean, Pittsburgh as a home underdog

2889
02:10:49,160 --> 02:10:52,080
Speaker 2: in the postseason. Here does Aaron Rodgers have any magic left?

2890
02:10:52,160 --> 02:10:55,200
Speaker 2: And you know Houston with that defense and everything, So

2891
02:10:55,400 --> 02:10:58,560
Speaker 2: I can't wait. I mean, you know again, it starts tonight.

2892
02:10:58,640 --> 02:11:01,640
Speaker 2: I mean you look at all of these games, the

2893
02:11:01,680 --> 02:11:04,560
Speaker 2: two games tonight, e excuse me, the two semi final games,

2894
02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:06,880
Speaker 2: the next two nights, and then all these playoff games.

2895
02:11:07,360 --> 02:11:11,560
Speaker 2: I believe every single one, but the game you're at, Jeff,

2896
02:11:12,840 --> 02:11:14,520
Speaker 2: is a five point or less spread.

2897
02:11:14,880 --> 02:11:15,920
Speaker 1: I think that one's ten and a half.

2898
02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:18,360
Speaker 2: You're the big one with the Rams being the big

2899
02:11:18,440 --> 02:11:20,720
Speaker 2: road favorite there, but everything else is right there, like

2900
02:11:20,800 --> 02:11:23,040
Speaker 2: right around a field goal, and so you know, that's

2901
02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:26,400
Speaker 2: pretty unique, I think, And so I can't wait to

2902
02:11:26,400 --> 02:11:26,960
Speaker 2: get it all started.

2903
02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:28,840
Speaker 1: So the one game nobody's mentioned that I'm really looking

2904
02:11:28,840 --> 02:11:30,720
Speaker 1: forward to is San Francisco a Philadelphia.

2905
02:11:30,760 --> 02:11:31,160
Speaker 2: That's another.

2906
02:11:31,480 --> 02:11:34,120
Speaker 1: I think San Francisco's finally held. That's our four to.

2907
02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:35,520
Speaker 2: Thirty right on something four thirty.

2908
02:11:36,040 --> 02:11:38,840
Speaker 1: And here's the thing we talk about how injuries have

2909
02:11:38,880 --> 02:11:41,720
Speaker 1: derailed the Colts all season long. Right, nobody had more

2910
02:11:41,720 --> 02:11:43,960
Speaker 1: injuries on offense than the San Francisco forty nine ers

2911
02:11:43,960 --> 02:11:46,160
Speaker 1: this year, and that's the reason they're a six seed

2912
02:11:46,520 --> 02:11:49,680
Speaker 1: and they're playing lately like a top three or four seed.

2913
02:11:50,080 --> 02:11:50,560
Speaker 8: It's gonna be.

2914
02:11:50,600 --> 02:11:52,160
Speaker 1: Really interesting to see what they do on the road

2915
02:11:52,160 --> 02:11:53,240
Speaker 1: against Philadelphia.

2916
02:11:53,280 --> 02:11:55,880
Speaker 4: I love it because we get so hyperbolic. If you

2917
02:11:56,000 --> 02:12:01,120
Speaker 4: win this weekend, everything's possible. You lose this weekend, everyone

2918
02:12:01,160 --> 02:12:01,800
Speaker 4: should be gone.

2919
02:12:02,080 --> 02:12:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, John Harmas should be your head coach. There's probably

2920
02:12:04,400 --> 02:12:05,840
Speaker 2: how a lot of teams of you shout out to

2921
02:12:05,840 --> 02:12:08,680
Speaker 2: the Michelis Corporation, Broken Water heater at the Bowing household

2922
02:12:08,800 --> 02:12:13,040
Speaker 2: broken water softener. They were out asap yesterday to get

2923
02:12:13,040 --> 02:12:15,320
Speaker 2: some fans going. I feel like I'm living in those

2924
02:12:15,360 --> 02:12:18,040
Speaker 2: windmills off of sixty five right now. But hey, if

2925
02:12:18,040 --> 02:12:21,400
Speaker 2: they're drying up all my watery carpet and watery toys

2926
02:12:21,440 --> 02:12:24,440
Speaker 2: and you know, suitcases and everything, thank you for that.

2927
02:12:24,640 --> 02:12:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Michele. This has helped us out before in the

2928
02:12:26,440 --> 02:12:28,240
Speaker 1: past too. That's a great company to go check out

2929
02:12:28,240 --> 02:12:31,760
Speaker 1: of you unfortunately need their services. They're the right folks

2930
02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:33,520
Speaker 1: to call. It's gonna wrap it up for us. Chris

2931
02:12:33,560 --> 02:12:36,320
Speaker 1: Ballard comes your way at eleven o'clock, that's the scheduled

2932
02:12:36,360 --> 02:12:39,080
Speaker 1: start time of the press conference. Will carry some of

2933
02:12:39,080 --> 02:12:41,960
Speaker 1: that then reaction from Jake at noon