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Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: It's terrorism.

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Speaker 3: Old Dominion University, Temple Israel and West Bloomfield, Michigan. The

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Speaker 3: killing of two Americans at a bar in Austin, Texas,

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Speaker 3: just a little over a week ago, it's terrorism.

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Speaker 2: You can call what.

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Speaker 3: Happened at the synagogue anti Semitism, you'll be correct, but

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Speaker 3: it is still terrorism. And if we don't understand that

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Speaker 3: we have people in the United States whom we have

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Speaker 3: allowed in the United States, or whom there are Americans

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Speaker 3: themselves who are engaged in this, supportive of this because

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Speaker 3: they could support it by outside entities and radicals within

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Speaker 3: our own country, Well, how in the world are we

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Speaker 3: going to possibly stop this? And so we're all clear

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Speaker 3: with each other. The plan has to be to stop this,

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Speaker 3: not live with it. Stop it. Tony Katz, that is me.

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Speaker 3: The show is Tony Katz today. Let's start where we start,

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Speaker 3: which is Old Dominion, the University, Old Dominion University. We're

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Speaker 3: an isis supporting shooter shouting Alu Akbar killed an ROTC instructor.

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Speaker 2: He was known for having spent time in.

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Speaker 3: Jail for connecting with isl so we think of ISIS.

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Speaker 2: ISEL.

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Speaker 3: There was this call it an offshoot called a name change,

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Speaker 3: the Islami State of Iraq and the levante. A terrorist

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Speaker 3: organization is a terrorist organization.

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Speaker 2: Is a terrorist organization. Somehow one is better than the other.

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Speaker 2: Not in my world.

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Speaker 3: He spent time in jail, but was released early from

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Speaker 3: jail twenty twenty four. Was able to get a firearm,

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Speaker 3: asked if this is where the ROTC was meeting, where

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Speaker 3: a class was going on, screaming a luac bar and

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Speaker 3: open fire. This guy was a naturalized citizen originally from

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Speaker 2: That's who he was. He spent eleven years in prison.

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Speaker 2: Actually I take that back. He was sentenced to.

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Speaker 3: Eleven years in prison for offering material support to ISIS

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Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen. But you'll notice he didn't serve the

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Speaker 3: entire time. The man that he killed a retired military

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Speaker 3: officer known, respected from every report, beloved. This scumbag terrorist

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Speaker 3: was stopped because an ROTC you call him recruit cadet.

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Speaker 2: Had a knife. It's the only way this guy was stopped.

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Speaker 3: Somebody was there with a weapon able to be proactive

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Speaker 3: in the defense of others. In Michigan, this forty one

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Speaker 3: year old eleven he is American, took his car truck

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Speaker 3: I should say, loaded with explosives and drove through the

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Speaker 3: door of a synagogue called Temple Israel.

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Speaker 2: Temple Israel.

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Speaker 3: Is the largest reform synagogue in the country. Judaism has

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Speaker 3: Orthodox conservative Reform. Call it highest medium, lowest in terms of.

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Speaker 2: Religiousness.

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Speaker 3: Trying to figure out how I would explain it. I'm

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Speaker 3: a conservative Jew. I belong to a conservative synagogue. Reform

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Speaker 3: synagogues I have found to be mostly liberal synagogues. Orthodox

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Speaker 3: synagogues are synagogues that are most following rules, regulations, etc.

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Speaker 3: This is the largest Reformed synagogue in the country, and

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Speaker 3: this guy drove through the front door explosives and weapons

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Speaker 3: in the truck. It should be understood that services weren't

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Speaker 3: which I think I shopped a lot of people because

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Speaker 3: it certainly shocked me. By the way joyously they had

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Speaker 3: a security team. When this guy went through the door,

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Speaker 2: This guy died in his car. The car caught fire.

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Speaker 3: There was the black smoke that you saw in both situations.

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Speaker 3: In both places, the bad guy was stopped by the

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Speaker 3: good guy with a weapon. In both situations. If it

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Speaker 3: wasn't for people armed in one way or another and prepared,

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Speaker 3: you would have many more deaths. We would be discussing

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Speaker 3: something very, very different. So I'll start where I start.

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Speaker 2: In all of this.

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Speaker 3: Buy guns by AMMO, get trained. Do not show up

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Speaker 3: to your place of worship without being armed. And any parishioner,

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Speaker 3: any faith leader, I should state, who says you can't

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Speaker 3: you might say to me, Tony, that's a little bit strong.

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Speaker 3: I'll say to you, Kit, and I haven't even started.

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Speaker 3: Any faith leader that says you can't be armed here

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Speaker 3: is not worth a damn. They are not worth your

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Speaker 3: time or your attention. They do not love you, They

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Speaker 3: do not love your family. I would question out loud

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Speaker 3: that they love the Lord. They've got to go, and if.

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Speaker 2: They won't go, well, then you have to go.

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Speaker 3: You owe it to yourselves, and I am only appreciative

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Speaker 2: I cannot fully explain that there's.

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Speaker 3: A synagogue out there that understood that it is their

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Speaker 2: And the ones that they love. Good on them.

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Speaker 3: Every synagogue should take note. The connection between these terrorists

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Speaker 3: is ideological. One may argue that it is religious and

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Speaker 3: that they're all Muslims. Well, when you're wearing a hoodie

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Speaker 3: that says property of Hollah, you're saying something. I cannot

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Speaker 3: state that we're not talking about a religion. We're talking

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Speaker 2: The ideology that the other guy.

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Speaker 3: Has to submit or die anybody who doesn't agree with them.

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Speaker 3: And most importantly, the place of true connection that they

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Speaker 3: all wanted to do away with, degrade and destroy Western civilization,

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Speaker 3: the American way of life. They all wanted to terrorize Americans,

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Speaker 3: all of them, and those who do not want to

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Speaker 3: admit the connections.

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Speaker 2: I've got no time for those little children.

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Speaker 3: Well, Tony, they're just doing this because, in the case

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Speaker 3: of the guy who attacked the synagogue, he had family

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Speaker 3: in Lebanon, and Israel attacked his family, and well, Tony,

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Speaker 3: the synagogue's name is Temple Israel. And well to explain

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Speaker 3: the ads part, I have to bring in the New

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Speaker 3: York Times, the most disgusting newspaper in America that wrote

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Speaker 3: Temple Israel was founded in nineteen forty one, dedicated to

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Speaker 3: the formation of a Jewish state. Oh so they deserved it.

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Speaker 3: That's the argument of the New York Times. You absolute

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Speaker 3: despicable scumbags. They deserved it is the argument that these

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Speaker 3: people are making, and it's being made, by the way

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Speaker 3: on your TV screens. It's being made by the most

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Speaker 3: progressive and woke right fools out there. Suspect in Michigan

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Speaker 3: synagogue attack, lust family in ISRAELI strike on Lebanon, What

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Speaker 3: does that have to do with attacking Americans in a synagogue?

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Speaker 3: What does that have to do with attacking Jews? We're

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Speaker 3: going to defend it. He was somehow confused. Well, it's

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Speaker 3: all right, Well it's Israel's fault. Screw off, you low

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Speaker 3: life scumbags. And I don't want to see another Jewish person.

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Speaker 2: Even pretending to be nice.

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Speaker 3: Remember, my people, my people are some of the dumbest

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Speaker 3: It is factual. These lefties, leftist Jews, somehow believing that

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Speaker 3: As I posted to all the liberal Jews I grew

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Speaker 3: up with. Yes, forgive me for getting personal the New

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Speaker 3: York Times things, Temple, Israel and West Bloomfields. The victims

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Speaker 3: of a terrorist at deserved it. They think you deserve it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you should speak up, Maybe you should admit that

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Speaker 3: you've been wrong. Maybe you should accept that we're in

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Speaker 3: this together. The terrorists wants to kill Jews and destroy

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Speaker 3: Western civilization, and you will never be progressive enough, liberal enough,

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Speaker 3: or woke enough to appease them.

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Speaker 2: Never truth.

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Speaker 3: The same is true for any leftist. The same is

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Speaker 3: true for every American. It is us versus them. You're

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Speaker 3: on the woke right, you're on the political left. You

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Speaker 3: don't like my politics. I don't give a damn. I

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Speaker 3: don't care about any of it. It is us or

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Speaker 3: it is them. Choose one, Choose one. I've got absolute

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Speaker 3: tools making comments that this is all the fault of Israel.

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Speaker 3: Blank you blank this, blank that America first, Dear God,

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Speaker 3: so do you not understand what's happening. You want to

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Speaker 3: They will not stop. If Israel didn't exist, they still

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Speaker 2: What's your argument.

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Speaker 3: Your argument is you are a child incapable of seeing

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Speaker 2: They've been at war with us since they saw us.

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Speaker 3: If you believe in the worldwide Caliphate, you are at

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Speaker 2: You think this is about Israel. Do you know how

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Speaker 2: ignorantly stupid you are.

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Speaker 3: Here? Allow me, you are in a nutshell. You are

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Speaker 4: I think so I speak to myself, not for you,

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Speaker 4: that a lot of US Mid East policy is dictated

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Speaker 4: by Israel. That I think Rubio probably had it right,

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Speaker 4: that it was Israel who decided they wanted to go

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Speaker 4: to war, and after forty years of wanting to see this,

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Speaker 4: Netna who finally got his wish. I mean, Netah has

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Speaker 4: told us, urged the United States to get involved in Iraq,

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Speaker 4: that be clean and easy war.

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Speaker 2: What is If that is.

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Speaker 4: True, what is Israel's goal? What do they want by

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Speaker 4: not only decimating the leadership in Iran?

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Speaker 2: Not only what do they want?

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Speaker 3: They want to not have terrorists being funded by Iran

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Speaker 3: so they don't get killed. But Israel dragged American to

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Speaker 3: this war is to stupid for words. The only way

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Speaker 2: Oh sorry, Bernie, I I don't mean to Gosh. Embarrassing

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Speaker 3: Three acts of terrorism, one against the synagogue, one against ROTC,

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Speaker 2: At a bar. You really think this is about Israel?

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Speaker 3: Stupid people need not apply. This is about us. You

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Speaker 2: It's us or it's them. It's us or it's them.

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Speaker 3: You still think this is about whatever it is that

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Speaker 3: Carlson is not a political philosophy.

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Speaker 2: It's us or it's them. How many more things do

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Speaker 3: How many more ways did you need to be attacked

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Speaker 3: over the last forty seven years by the Iranian regime?

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Speaker 2: How much more do you need to witness?

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Speaker 3: And at some moment, those of us who are thinking

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Speaker 3: we're not paying attention.

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Speaker 2: To you at all at all.

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Speaker 3: If you don't understand that we're in it because they

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Speaker 2: Listen, I'm trying to get my people, my people to

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Speaker 2: understand which end is up. It has been.

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Speaker 3: Difficult, but an actual security team and a synagogue woo

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Speaker 3: a little bit of faith.

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Speaker 2: We're the ones under attack.

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Speaker 3: They're here and all the three of these terrorist attacks.

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Speaker 3: We don't understand that we're under threat. We don't understand

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Speaker 3: that it's us or them. We don't understand that Western

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Speaker 3: civilization is on the line. Keep trying to tell yourself

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Speaker 3: that Western civilization isn't on the line. Just so We

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Speaker 3: know who you are, so we don't have to pay

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Speaker 3: attention to you, so we can go about making sure

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Speaker 3: we never vote for anybody who enables them, and we

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Speaker 3: only put ourselves in a position of policy to defeat them.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today,