1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Line from Baal Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 2: The jobs report is in, and the jobs report tells 4 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: a story. US payrolls rose by one hundred and thirty 5 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 2: thousand in the month of January. Tony Kats, Tony Kats today. 6 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: Good to be here, Good to be with you. 7 00:00:54,880 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: And the expectation I believe was what seventy thousand. I'm sorry, 8 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: the expectation was fifty five thousand, which means the expectation 9 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: was beaten by seventy thousand jobs. Now I had doctor 10 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: Matt will the economist at the University of Indianapolis, do 11 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: a little breakdown for me. Healthcare is up by one 12 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty three thousand, not necessarily a great thing. 13 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 3: But government is down forty two. 14 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: Thousand, and that is spectacular. The reduction in government jobs 15 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: is incredible. Now you've heard me say this before. The 16 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: truth is government can't create a job. 17 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: Government can only create work. This is These are the facts. 18 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 2: But when government is down and government is not the employer, 19 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: it means the private sector is. And that's the much 20 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: better telltale of what it is that an economy is 21 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: dealing with and is experiencing. Manufacturing is flat, but construction 22 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: is up thirty three thousand. We're gonna start seeing home 23 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: sales again. Is that what we're gonna look at. We're 24 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 2: gonna start seeing and maybe this is because of weather, right, 25 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: the weather's starting to warm up. 26 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: Now we're gonna start seeing more homes. 27 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: Okay, well that's fine, but one hundred and thirty thousand 28 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: is a very very nice number. One hundred and thirty 29 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: thousands the kind of number that the Trump administration should 30 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: be yelling from the rooftops. It goes along with the 31 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: story about violent crime. You may not have seen this 32 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: story about violent crime and how violent crime has plummeted 33 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: across major cities. This was Axios violent crime plummets across 34 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 2: major US cities. Now, the Trump administration had actually put 35 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: out a correction and it says thanks to Trump, violent 36 00:02:53,960 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: crime has gone down in these cities. When Axios, that's 37 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: where this story comes from, put this out at first, 38 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: when they first put out this story, they didn't say 39 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: it like this when they posted it on their social 40 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: media feed. 41 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: They posted it on the Twitter X. Here's exactly what 42 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 3: it said. It said crime plunges. 43 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: In major cities despite Trump's crackdown rhetoric. 44 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: What in the world is that. 45 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: Despite his crackdown rhetoric, You mean saying that we're going 46 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: to do something about crime and then going into cities 47 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: like Washington, d C. 48 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: And Memphis and. 49 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: Doing something about crime and letting everybody know that we're 50 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: serious about putting an end to the madness, being proactive, 51 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: engaging in executions, and pushing prosecutors in cities to actually 52 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: do their job. Crack down rhetoric, I mean, that's just 53 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: some silly stuff right there. But the numbers are quite incredible. 54 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: The numbers really are something when you see how much 55 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 2: they've come down, and there's a great graph that shares 56 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: this with you. Orlando, Florida down fifty eight point three percent, Tampa, 57 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: Florida down fifty two point eight percent, Prince George's County 58 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 2: in Maryland down forty and sorry forty percent forty point six, 59 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: Seattle down thirty six point two, Albuquerque down thirty four 60 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,239 Speaker 2: point three. Got a lot easier in Albuquerque after Walter 61 00:04:51,320 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: White died. And then Baltimore down thirty one point four percent. Baltimore, Baby. 62 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: These are good things and the Trump administration should be 63 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: proactive in discussing them, just like they should be proactive 64 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: in discussing what happened with these jobs numbers. Can they 65 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: revise down? Absolutely, they can revise down. 66 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: We have been through this. 67 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: We have seen this before, that these jobs numbers can 68 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: be revised down. We saw this certainly with the the 69 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: uh Biden administration every single month, every single month. Now 70 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 2: there is something else kind of interesting about these jobs numbers. 71 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: As the unemployment employment rate went down to four point 72 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: three percent. 73 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: The forecast was predicting staying at. 74 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 2: Four point four and sometimes the unemployment number this was 75 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 2: true under Biden as well. 76 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: Is a little bit of a of an awkward reading. 77 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: And the awkward reading involves whether or not people have 78 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: even tried for a job. 79 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: Have they given up on getting a job? 80 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: Right? That's the question before us, Has anybody? 81 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 3: Have people gotten into the workforce or dropped out of 82 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 3: the workforce? 83 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: And therefore that can change the number, but doesn't necessarily 84 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: mean who is unemployed and who isn't which is the issue. 85 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: But when you are given this gift, you are going 86 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 2: to share this gift, and part of the gift is 87 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: realizing that the government hiring is down. That is great news. 88 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: We are never better off when government is growing. And 89 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: one of the ways sometimes the numbers get manipulated is 90 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 2: to say, well, we can look at the creative jobs 91 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: and then not note and not share how. 92 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 3: The government jobs went up. 93 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: This hasn't seen, at least of now, right midday, some 94 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: crazy effect on the market. 95 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: Actually the down, the NASDAC down. 96 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: Okay, lots of other things can affect lots of other things. 97 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: But if the story is heading into a midterm. 98 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: Hey we're growing, Hey we're building, Hey we're increasing, Hey 99 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: we're getting out of the Biden mess and morass. I mean, 100 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: I was very happy to see President Trump the other day. 101 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: He's on with Larry. 102 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: Kudlow on Fox Business. 103 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: And he's I think having the absolutely worked conversation. 104 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 4: Start with doubt fifty thousand, congratulations with the America. 105 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: That was your truth. 106 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 4: Social the economy is hitting on all cylinders. Most of 107 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 4: the experts have been completely wrong about it. So as 108 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 4: you look at this thing, it's the mid term elections 109 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 4: and so forth, how good a year is it going 110 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 4: to be twenty twenty six, Well. 111 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be great. 112 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 5: You know when you say fifty thousand, and by the way, 113 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 5: S and P. Seven thousand, which is I guess almost 114 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 5: the equivalent. 115 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: I think the huge number when you think. 116 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 5: About it, right, And I remember when I first won, 117 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 5: they said, if he gets to dial up to fifteen 118 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 5: thousand by the end of his fourth year, he will 119 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 5: have done miracles. And we're at the end of the 120 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 5: first year. So when you think about it, that's great. 121 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 5: And the S and P the same thing, and everything else. 122 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 5: I mean, everything's going great. We inherited a total mess 123 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 5: from Biden, and not only the borders, but the economy. 124 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: The inflation. The inflation was the. 125 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 5: Worst ever in history they say forty eight years, but 126 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 5: basically ever in and the prices were high. And you 127 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 5: don't hear them use the word affordability, and where they 128 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 5: can't use it because we've brought the prices down. 129 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: Hold on a second, even your White House is talking 130 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 2: about mortgage affordability. So people still use the term affordability, right, 131 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: that's that's not not by I'm exhausted by the terminology. 132 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: But this is the argument, right, this is where President 133 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: Trump should be. 134 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: We inherited the mess, We got this, we got that, 135 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: and here's what we're doing. This is the. 136 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: Right, proper, smart methodology. This is how you get people. 137 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 3: To your side. 138 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: You're gonna hear me talk about this again and again 139 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: and again. 140 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: This is. 141 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 2: How you get people to your side by saying, here's 142 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: what we were dealing with, here's what we have done 143 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: about it. Here is the tangible result, and soon you 144 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: will feel it. 145 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: Now it's easy. 146 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 2: When you can say and look, there's the check right, oh, 147 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: look there you start. You're you're already feeling it. You're 148 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: already experiencing it. Give people something to look to, something 149 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: to hope to. It matters greatly on these jobs numbers. 150 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 2: That's what it does. It is all about the the 151 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: psychology of how do you think things are going? How 152 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: you think things are going? And this has been a 153 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 2: conversation that's going everywhere over there at News Nation. I 154 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: appreciated the shout out from Leland Viddert. He's got Bill 155 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: O'Reilly on the show who I've I've I've never filled 156 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: in for his full show. He does an these vignettes 157 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: that play across the country. I filled in there before, 158 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 2: happy to do it. And Bill was on the show 159 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: and Leland Viddert is talking about this same subject about 160 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: how do you engage in economic converse sation of value. 161 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 6: Puch to the No Spin Newsbilloeriley dot com, author of 162 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 6: Confronting Evil Assessing the Worst of the Worst, Bill Good 163 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 6: buddy of mind Tony Katz, radio host out in Indianapolis, used. 164 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: To always say. 165 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 6: That Trump always wins. First rule of trump How does 166 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 6: Trump get a win? 167 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 3: Right now? To turn the feeling in the country. 168 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: Around Now, my conversation is, the first rule of trump 169 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: Ism is Trump wins. This goes back to twenty seventeen. 170 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: There are two rules of trump Ism. The first rule 171 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 2: of trump Ism is Trump wins. The second rule of 172 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: trump Ism is that a deal can always be made 173 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: as long as it adheres to the first rule of 174 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: trump Ism. 175 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 3: And we have been having. 176 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:50,479 Speaker 2: This conversation for well that's twenty seventeen and it's twenty twenty. 177 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 3: Six, nine thousand years. But it's true. It's a thousand 178 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: percent true. 179 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 2: Everything is about how he can create the deal that 180 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: gives him the win. I thought that Bill O'Reilly's answer 181 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: was interesting, Well. 182 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 7: I think he's counting on the text refunds to really 183 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 7: gin up the economy. 184 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: That would be number one. Number two. 185 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 7: The administration believes that Iran and Cuba will fall Now, 186 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 7: it is true that most Americans don't vote peign policy. 187 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 7: The third thing is that the Trump administration is to 188 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 7: figure out how to bring down insurance costs. Insurance that's 189 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 7: the main reason that people are finding working. People are 190 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 7: finding themselves short of cash. And if you live in 191 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 7: a high tax day like New York where I am, 192 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 7: you're being taxed up to hear and then you've got 193 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 7: to pay these enormous insurance costs and it dwarfs food. 194 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 7: And you're looking around after the month and going where 195 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 7: is the money going? What's going to insurance costs? And 196 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 7: is going to taxes? And people are getting discouraged. And 197 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 7: that's the poll you just cited. 198 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: So first things first, Trump is depending on the one 199 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 2: big beautiful bill and giant tax refunds to make people 200 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: feel good. Now, it's true, they'll get a check and 201 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 2: they'll feel good. It's not as good as costs going down, 202 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: which is what he hits. Third pointed to a specific 203 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: a problem that if it can be addressed and attacked, 204 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: that leads to victory. That's correct. Now, he's also right 205 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: Iran and Cuba falling. People don't usually vote on foreign policy, however, 206 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: ending the Islamic threat and the terrorist threat of Iran, 207 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 2: putting an end to communism in what should be the 208 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 2: pearl of the Caribbean, and actually having. 209 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 3: Ourselves a relationship with Uba. 210 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: Right now, there's a lot of conversation about Cuba because 211 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 2: of Venezuela, of a Maduro going down, in the oil 212 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 2: not being in the hands of these despots. Well they're 213 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: not getting their oil now. They can't do refueling, they 214 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: can't do this, they can't do that. Don't ask me 215 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: to feel bad for the Cubans. No, no, no, no, no. 216 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: Let's see the castro not well, it's not castros anymore, 217 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: but let's see that group of commis. Go, let's see 218 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: a free Cuba. I'll help them all I can. I 219 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: will be visiting Cuba so quickly. I don't know what 220 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: to say. I will be leading tours to talk cigars 221 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: in Cuba. I can't wait. Let the kamis fall. It 222 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: will have a level of effect. But here's what's coming people, 223 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: here's the economic help that's on its way. And here 224 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 2: is a subject a Riley, talking about insurance and and 225 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: how we need to bring it down. Here's what we're 226 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: gonna do, just like we've done with drug prices. We'll 227 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: do this, we'll do this, and we'll do this, and 228 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: here's what we're doing over here and over there. And 229 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: it might now be insurance costs because it might be 230 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: this subject or that subject. 231 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: Correct. 232 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 2: Correct, And these jobs numbers help tell the story that 233 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: Trump's plan is working. Now, is it working perfectly? But 234 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: do they get to point to some things and say 235 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: not bad? Huh, yeah, they do. This job's report is 236 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: not great for Democrats. The overall economy not being perfect 237 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: is what they're hoping. It's what they're counting on. Couple 238 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: more reports like this, couple more moves like this in manufacturing. 239 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: And other places. 240 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: As we see in the manufacturing numbers up, even if 241 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: the manufacturing and hiring was flat. It's good stuff for 242 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: the Trump administration going into the midterms. I'm Tony Katz 243 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: and this is Tony Katz today. Congressman Andre Carson is 244 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: the representative of the seventh District of NBIA, and he 245 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: is someone who refuses to condemn Lewis Faracone. He is 246 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: someone who refers to Rashida talib as his sister. Andre Carson. 247 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: Congressman Carson has y very bad judgment and character. Tony Katz, 248 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: Tony kats today. Good to be here, good to be 249 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: with you. He always has. I have been through this repeatedly. 250 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: He is someone who tries to fly under the radar 251 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: and has his seat in Congress because his grandmother had 252 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: this seat and it's become a family business. 253 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 3: And it is also true and knowing this place as 254 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 3: I do, because this is where I live. 255 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: The Republican Party refuses to put any money to run 256 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: someone against him, and to get aggressive. There are more 257 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: Democrats right now primarying him this year than we have 258 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: strong Republican candidates going against him. I have had members 259 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: of the Republican Party say to me, well, we can't 260 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: put money in every race, then you should not be 261 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: running a party. Republicans who won't run in every race 262 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 2: are not people we need. 263 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 3: But he writes there on Twitter X. 264 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: Let's be clear, non citizen voting is already illegal. The 265 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 2: Save Act doesn't fix a real problem. It creates new 266 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 2: barriers by forcing Americans to present the passport or birth 267 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: certificate in person just to register or update their registration. 268 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 2: We should be expanding voting access, not creating more unnecessary 269 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 2: hoops to participate in democracy. 270 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 3: I oppose this bill. That is a ridiculous statement. You 271 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 3: have to prove who you are. 272 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: Why shouldn't you when registering to vote or updating your registration, 273 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: why shouldn't you bring an ID? Where I don't need 274 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 2: an ID is to buy suit of FED. I just 275 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 2: want to get rid of the cold. That's not what 276 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 2: some government perfunctories have decided. This is the conversation that 277 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: keeps coming up when they bring up their objections to 278 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: the Save Act. They object to the idea of voter ID. 279 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: They want the opportunity to cheat. And I believe that 280 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: includes Congressman Andre Carson because his argument is, it's a 281 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: barrier to bring your birth certificate. At that moment, how 282 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: do we not all just start drinking. It's a barrier 283 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 2: to bring your birth certificate or passport? 284 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 3: No, it's not. No, it's not. 285 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: If it's a barrier to bring these things, then it's 286 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 2: always a barrier to bring these things, and no one 287 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 2: can require these things of me. It's a serious, serious barrier. 288 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 3: It's an imposition and a barrier to ask me for 289 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 3: my Social. 290 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 2: Security number and every single document, never mind intrusive and abusive. 291 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 2: And I was told that with a social Security number, 292 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: it wouldn't be used to track me. 293 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: Ha. Can I get the loan without the Social Security number? 294 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 3: Can I do this? Can I do that? Can I 295 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 3: do the other? 296 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: Can I simply function in the United States without showing 297 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 2: my papers giving my number? Congressman Carson, you don't have 298 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 2: an argument. Your team should be embarrassed to work for you. 299 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: The Save Act should pass, and you should care enough 300 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: about American elections to be in favor of it. But 301 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 2: you don't want American elections. You want the opportunity for 302 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: fraud to see you. 303 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: Congressman Nject Carshan on Top Thans that was a weird 304 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: headline where Governor Tim. 305 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: Walls said that he expects the. 306 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 3: He expects that the practice the immigration crackdown will end 307 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 3: in days. What do you mean it's gonna end in days? 308 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: Why would I believe this? 309 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 2: Tony Katz Tony Kats today, Good to be here, Good 310 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: to be with you, live streaming on YouTube. Check it 311 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 2: out for yourself. Just go to Tony Kat's and subscribe. 312 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: Go to tonycats dot com and find everything that I 313 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: do and get your tickets for February twenty eighth. Tickets 314 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 2: dot Tonycats dot com. Trump one year and one month later, 315 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: the bourbon, the food. If the weather's nice, we're doing cigars. 316 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: This is all happening. Tickets to Tonycats dot com. It's 317 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: gonna be incredible night. Put on the red tie, Come 318 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 2: enjoy the party with me. Ten thousand percent gonna be amazing. 319 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 2: But it was a Newsmas headline and Governor Walls fed's 320 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: immigration crackdown in Minnesota may end in days. Why would 321 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: I believe this? Why would I believe that it will end? 322 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 2: Are they done? I mean, if they're done, it can end. 323 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: You mean once Minnesota and one's the city of Minneapolis 324 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: decided not to be ridiculous freaks, but rather work with 325 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: Immigrations and Customs enforcement to remove illegal immigrants. Everything got 326 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: easy and everything was handled. Notice no one's talking about 327 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: it right now. No one's talking about it. No one's 328 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: talking about violent this or that. No one's talking about 329 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: the paid agitators, the violent people attacking ice. No one's 330 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 2: talking about anything. Because local law enforcement decided to get involved, 331 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: because the mayor Jacob Fray, the Governor Tim Walls decided, Hey, 332 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: instead of us having a deal with lawsuits or other 333 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: other issues, we better just go along with this. In 334 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: the chat room, someone argued, maybe Waltz Waltz just ran 335 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: out of money to pay the protesters. The demonstrators, I 336 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: don't think it was Walls paying them. I think that 337 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 2: there are others paying them. Maybe Walls realize that if 338 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 2: I help here, maybe there won't be so much an 339 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 2: attack or an investigation of me. And what happened with 340 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: the Somali daycare centers. I'm sorry, were we supposed to. 341 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 3: Forget about that? 342 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: The fraud that is the home healthcare centers happening not 343 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: just in Minneapolis but all around the country, costing Americans billions. 344 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 3: I want to remind everybody that the. 345 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 2: Fraud that we're seeing across the country, if we had 346 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 2: that money, we could have a home for every homeless 347 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 2: veteran in the United States of America. 348 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 3: Which one is more important? Which one? 349 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 2: I could show you a post from Representative ilhan Omar 350 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: talking about Well, how would I describe this? 351 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 3: She's basically calling for the death of the president. 352 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 2: She has no issue with the fraud. Everything is Trump, this, Trump, 353 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: that Trump the other. 354 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 3: Listen. 355 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: Representative ilhan Omar is disgusting. But I never mind a 356 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: Jew hater. But if you have been following her closely. 357 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 2: What you have seen is that she has gotten more 358 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 2: and more angry, more and more vicious. Maybe people looking 359 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: at how she ended up with thirty million. 360 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: Dollars doesn't make her happy. Maybe she's feeling some pressure. 361 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: Maybe it's all a part of the same group involved 362 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: in this fraud and this grift. 363 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 3: On the American people. 364 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: There are Americans involved, there are non Americans involved. I 365 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: want those who are Americans involved going to jail, and 366 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: I want those who are non Americans to be deported. 367 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,479 Speaker 2: And I want to remind everybody that every single dollar 368 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: spent on fraud could be spent on housing homeless veterans. 369 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: You don't want to use homeless veterans. Every dollar that 370 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: is wasted in this fraud for these abusers, these Unamerican zealots, 371 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 2: it could be used to pay the debt of nurses, 372 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: and we can have more nurses in the United States, 373 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: or we can just pay down debt in Toto. But 374 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: I'm okay with the other two things as well. These 375 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 2: people are fraudsters and it absolutely needs to be addressed, 376 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 2: and ICE needs to keep doing its job. Now, if 377 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 2: you tell me that ICE is done with it and 378 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 2: now we can do this another way. I'll say to you, Okay, 379 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: let's keep doing it. We'll do it another way. Ice 380 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: isn't stopping. As a matter of fact, word on the 381 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: street is that ICE has confirmed it will be at 382 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six World Cup matches, which people are going 383 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 2: to scream and yell that this is racism, this is bigotry, 384 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 2: and how dare you? 385 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 3: You're in the country illegally. You're in the country illegally. 386 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: What makes you think you get a pass just because 387 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 2: you want to go see Uruguay in the World Cup? 388 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: That's insane. You're in the country illegally. You're in the 389 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 2: country illegally. The law doesn't stop. It doesn't stop. These 390 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: people will always have a reason for why they you 391 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 2: shouldn't be enforcing the law. And I think what is 392 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: clear and what is important is that we ignore those 393 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: people and we keep arresting the people who have violated 394 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:34,479 Speaker 2: the law. This leads to a very interesting conversation that 395 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: took place between. 396 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 3: Rand Paul the Senator. 397 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: And Katie Kirk, and I bring it up because it 398 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: was a conversation that has came yesterday and the day before. 399 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 3: This new kind of word play, this new silly spin. 400 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: I saw this in relation to example, to the Save 401 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: Act and how you have to have a voter idea 402 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: as we were discussing earlier, and USA Today put out 403 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: a story that if the Save Act passes, it will 404 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 2: be harder for married women to vote. None of my 405 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: brain hurt from the stupidity. 406 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 3: I mean, we're we. 407 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 2: Are in the silly season. What an ignorant, ignorant statement. 408 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 2: I believe My response on the Twitter on the X was, 409 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: we really are scraping the barrel here, aren't we. We're 410 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: looking for anything, anywhere, any reason at all where we 411 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: could say, oh, this is why we can't have voter 412 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 2: id That argument is actually more pathetic than Congressman Andre 413 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: Carson's arguments, which is pathetic. 414 00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: But then came. 415 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: The other spin, which was about the arrests made by ICE, 416 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: and it started with it. We had shared it here, 417 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 2: this pie chart, and it was Benjamin Weingarten. 418 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 3: Who I saw it from. 419 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 2: And here it is, I actually have it right here, 420 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 2: and this was the original chart that I saw. And 421 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: this chart says nearly sixty percent of those were taken 422 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 2: into custody over the past year had pending criminal charges 423 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: or convictions. But most were not for violent offenses. Nearly 424 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 2: forty percent of those arrested by ice did not have 425 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 2: any criminal record at all. So six out of ten 426 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 2: had some criminal record, and that's a problem. 427 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: Okay, let's get rid of these people. 428 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: Well, then what they started doing is they started really 429 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 2: focusing on this idea of violent offenses. 430 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, only fourteen percent of people who have been. 431 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 2: Picked up by ice were guilty of violent offenses. I'm sorry, 432 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 2: have we come to a definition on violent defenses? If 433 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: I don't pay my taxes, I don't think it's a 434 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 2: violent defense. Yet the irs will still come at me 435 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 2: with guns, and they will still take my money, and 436 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: they will still garnish my wages. It wasn't a violent offense. 437 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 2: Violent offenses. This is now the new little caveat This 438 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 2: is the silly season. This is what they're trying to 439 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: trip people up on. From yesterday's press conference with Caroline. 440 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 8: Levitt CBS report floating around, there's a lot of liberal 441 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 8: talking heads and pundits and Democrat elected politicians who think 442 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 8: that this single story in these statistics and the way 443 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 8: they are painted is somehow a shot at this administration. 444 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 8: It is not, and let me correct the record. Number one, 445 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 8: The Trump administration has been clear from day one that 446 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 8: any illegal alien present in this country is subject to deportation. However, 447 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 8: the priority, of course is going after the convicted criminals, 448 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 8: the worst of the worst, the murderers, the pedophiles, the 449 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 8: rapists in this country. Interestingly, in the CBS story, what 450 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 8: the Democrat talking heads on television are not saying is 451 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 8: this line. Nearly sixty percent of ICE arrestees over the 452 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 8: past year had criminal charges or convictions, and among that population, 453 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 8: the majority of the criminal charges or convictions are for 454 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 8: nonviolent crimes. 455 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 3: Oh well, what are nonviolent crimes, you ask? 456 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 8: This has coincided with which DHS has been saying all 457 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 8: along that approximately seventy percent of illegal aliens arrested under 458 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 8: President Trump have pending criminal charges and or prior convictions. 459 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 8: And these so called nonviolent crimes drug trafficking, distribution of 460 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 8: child porn, burglary, fraud, dui embezzlement, solicitation of a minor, 461 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 8: and human smuggling, just to. 462 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 3: Name a few. And this is why it's silly season. 463 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: The Left is trying to do anything they can to 464 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 2: keep people here illegally from being deported. Why do they 465 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: want people here illegally, Well, that's about voting. They want 466 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: to count them in the census so they can be 467 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 2: counted and therefore they can get their apportionment so they 468 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: can have control in the House. 469 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 3: That's it. 470 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: That's everything. They want them to be able to vote 471 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: so they can win local elections. 472 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 3: That's it. They want power. They don't care about the law. 473 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 3: They're liars. 474 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: And this got us into a conversation between Rand Paul 475 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: and Katie Kuric and I don't normally do this, but 476 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: I'm taking a look at time. Stay right there, I'll 477 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 2: bring you that when we come back. Keep it here. 478 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz. Today I 479 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: was discussing the silly season that was taking place with 480 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 2: the political left when it comes to immigration and customs enforcement. 481 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: Look at the people that they're picking up, well, you know, 482 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: only fourteen percent of them are guilty of violent crimes. 483 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: What you consider a violent crime and what Americans would 484 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: consider a violent crime are two very different things. And 485 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 2: dear Lord, the things that you're willing to accept, the 486 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 2: spin that you'll engage in to try and protect the 487 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: legal immigrants over citizens, don't you know you're gross because 488 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: America has spoken Republicans, Conservatives, independence and moderates, the politically agnostic. 489 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: They think you're freaking gross, and they think you're weird 490 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: cause you are. 491 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. 492 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: And then I came across a good example of this, 493 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: Katie Kirk speaking with Senator Rand Paul. Now, I don't 494 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 2: think there's any cursing in this producer landing, but just 495 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 2: in case, Katie Kirk goes on a vendor, a finger 496 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: on the dump button. 497 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 3: Okay, excellent. 498 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 9: Less than fourteen percent of nearly four hundred thousand immigrants 499 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 9: arrested by Ice and President Trump's first year back in 500 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 9: the White House had charges or convictions for violent criminal offenses, 501 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 9: according to an eternal Department of Homeland Security document obtained 502 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 9: by CBS News. So isn't all this talk about ridding 503 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 9: the country of violent criminals a massive overstatement if less 504 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 9: than fourteen percent, again, of the four hundred thousand immigrants 505 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 9: being arrested are had charges or convictions for violent criminal offenses. 506 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: I told you this is the silly season. This is 507 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: the silly spin on this story. They want to they 508 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 2: don't know what a violent defense is, but they want 509 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: to use the CBS reports and they're all CBS shows 510 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: that's there for it's a total failure. 511 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 3: Senator Rand Paul, would you please. 512 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 10: Well, I think the facts make a difference. And so 513 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 10: that's one of the questions we will ask. And so 514 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 10: when you come to Minneapolis, if they have a policy 515 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 10: that says, oh, we're not going to turn over from 516 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 10: our jails nonviolent prisoners, people who are I don't know 517 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 10: why you're in prison, if you're not in violent, but 518 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 10: maybe you have a drug crime that's a non. 519 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 9: Violuar I think violent people. 520 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 10: But the thing is is that's not their policy. 521 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 3: Their policy is we will turn no one over. 522 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 10: So you can be you beat somebody half to death, 523 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 10: you get an assault charge, and you're in jail for 524 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 10: a couple of years and somehow you're getting out on 525 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 10: parole and you're not going to be turned over and 526 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 10: you're illegal. I've got a problem with that, and so 527 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 10: do probably most Independents and Democrats. But that's what we 528 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 10: have to ascertain. And the thing is is that's not 529 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 10: the policy of mayor Prime. He did not come forward 530 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 10: and say we're not going to turnover non violent prisoners. 531 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 10: He just simply said, we're not going to cooperate at all. 532 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 10: And if you do cooperate, and this is Ellison's edict 533 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 10: to them, it's actually against the offer you to cooperate. 534 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 10: So if you happen to have a Republican county and 535 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 10: a Republican judge who wants to turn over people in 536 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,479 Speaker 10: jail once their term is expired to be deported, they've 537 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 10: actually made that illegal. And so we should have a 538 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 10: debate in our country whether that's advisable. 539 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 3: And I think most people in the middle. 540 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 10: I think most people actually hate what the use of 541 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 10: force that they saw with Alexander pretty but I think 542 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 10: if you ask him if a guy's committed rape and 543 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 10: he's in prison and he's going to get out, do 544 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 10: you want him to report it? I think people would say, hell, yes, 545 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 10: he ought to be. 546 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: Deported, absolutely one hundred percent. But Senator Paul goes a 547 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 2: little further. 548 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 9: One of them, the fourteen percent, such a low percentage 549 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 9: of four hundred thousand people. 550 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 10: You're if you're broad, could well if you're if your 551 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 10: daughter gets raped by the guy that gets back out 552 00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 10: and he's one of the fourteen percent, I don't think 553 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 10: you're and a quibble about whether it's fourteen or sixty four. 554 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 3: And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you put Katie 555 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 3: Kurrik in her place. 556 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 2: How you explained to the left that your argument is bunk, 557 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: that going and arresting the people who are here legally 558 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 2: is a value and something we should continue to do. 559 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 2: And if only fourteen percent are involved in rape, I 560 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 2: would like to see those people out of the country. Please, 561 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: Why are you the political left trying to protect them? 562 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 3: That's center Ran Paul for the Win. Oh. 563 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 2: I don't agree with everything, but that was how you 564 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: answer what's the future of Howard Lutnik Commerce Secretary? 565 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 3: This all has to do with Jeffrey Epstein. 566 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 2: Oh and the clown show that was Pam Bondi in 567 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 2: front of the House Judiciary and everybody. 568 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 3: Keep it here. This is totally gutstep