1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: There is a story going around. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 2: Put it in a kind of view of, well, we 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 2: got to understand why it is Republicans lost in New 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: Jersey and Virginia, New York. And maybe the answer is 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: because it's New Jersey and Virginia and New York. 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: But now it's about you know, you think Democrats. 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: Are having a hard time attracting Republican men or young men. 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: Check out the problem the Republicans are having attracting young women. 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: So is that actually the case? Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: good to be with You find everything I do over 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: at Tony Katz dot com. Amber Duke joins me right now. 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: You know her work from The Daily Caller, where she's 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: a senior editor. She's also the host of the show 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: Rising at the Hill dot com. And Amber, it was 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: your contemporary at the Daily Caller. 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: Her name is Natalie Sandoval, and she. 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: Wrote a a piece about the election results and it 18 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: was if you're unhappy with the election results, blame women. 19 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: And that's just that's just so great. 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: I always it's always good when people are going into 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: the uh, the you know the problem is suffrage conversation 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 2: there the that's not what Natalie means here, but rather 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: there's been this conversation this this Republicans have an issue 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: with reaching out to and grabbing as voters young women, 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 2: and certainly we have seen women who askew left outrageously left, 26 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: and the election of Mom Donnie shows that in the 27 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: exit polling. Is there an issue that the Republican Party 28 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: has with being able to find itself to be attractive 29 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: with young women. 30 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: So I actually think that this is not so much 31 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: a political problem as it is a cultural problem, because 32 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: when we look at unmeri women versus married women, this 33 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: gap effectively disappears even among young women. Young women who 34 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 3: are married who have children are far more likely to 35 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: vote Republican than unmarried young women. So I think, actually 36 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: what we're seeing is that young women who are not 37 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: married are very susceptible to the left's emotional blackmle and 38 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 3: toxic empathy, meaning they don't have families to give their 39 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: empathy to for that natural sort of mothering female instinct 40 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: to kick in. So when they hear from the Democratic Party, 41 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 3: we are going to help all of these marginalized victims, 42 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: whether it's people who had no choice but to resort 43 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: to crime, whether it's the transgender community, which is under 44 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: attack and being killed simply for being transgender. They are 45 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: very susceptible to that kind of brainwashing because they need 46 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: somewhere to put all of that feminine care right. So, really, 47 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: I'm not sure how Republicans can compete with that because 48 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 3: we don't really traffic in victimhood narratives. It's really a 49 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: longer term cultural question of how can we make sure 50 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: that we are encouraging women to start families, to get married, 51 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: to have children, to do all of those things that 52 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 3: actually lead to a more fulfilling life. 53 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 2: So let's break this down a little bit because there's 54 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: a lot of component pieces in that, And the first 55 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: one is this idea, let's not even let's take away 56 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 2: out of marriage just for a second, to the very 57 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: idea of a relationship and relations in general. 58 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: So the underlying premise. 59 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: Of this argument, and I'm not saying it's specifically your argument, 60 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: although you may agree with it, is that women, younger 61 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: women are not interested in relationships with men, or there 62 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: is no capability they have to find a fulfilling relationship 63 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: with men because culturally they're told men are bad. 64 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: Right, Well, if we just look look at this new 65 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: song that came out from Kelsey Ballerini. She's a famous 66 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: country singer. I think she actually summarized the issue very 67 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: very well, which is she talks about how she put 68 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: off having children and was kind of brainwashed into this 69 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 3: idea that she needed to chase her career and fulfill 70 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: all of her dreams before she became a mother. And 71 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 3: one of the places where she says that that idea 72 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 3: came from was Rolling Stone Magazine. Because naturally, women who 73 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: are doing this girl boss thing get celebrated consistently throughout 74 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 3: mainstream media. They are elevated. Then look at how the 75 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 3: media talks about the trad wife phenomenon. 76 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: It's white supremacist. 77 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 3: These women are only able to do this because they 78 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: their husbands are independently wealthy. They are selling a false 79 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 3: idea of reality that no average woman could ever achieve. 80 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 3: So when you have consistent media messages from the time 81 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: you're a young girl all over social media too, by 82 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 3: the way, which is a cancer now for young women, 83 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: they are really infected with the message that family children 84 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: striving for that is not something to be proud of. 85 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 2: Talking to Amber Duke over at The Daily Caller and 86 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: she is the host of rising at the Hill dot Com. 87 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: It's interesting you talk about the cultural messaging, right, what 88 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: is it that young women and women in general are 89 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 2: hit with over and over and over again. But you're 90 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: also addressing something that I've addressed, which is the susceptibility 91 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: to that argument. I am very clear liberal white women 92 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: are the worst. I have said so numerous times. I 93 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: apologize for no part of this whatsoever, but it really 94 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 2: gets into the conversation of how is one so susceptible 95 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: to what is clearly not in their best interests. 96 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about them specifically. There is no 97 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: way that men and women in. 98 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: Sports, boys and girls sports is better for your daughter. 99 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: It's impossible. 100 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: There is no way to attack that subject that makes 101 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 2: that possible. 102 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: So I think for a lot of us, it's a 103 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: question of. 104 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 2: If we're saying, well, you're bombarded with this, so therefore 105 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: you feel a certain way. 106 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: That is one thing, But now you have to ask 107 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: the question if you take. 108 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 2: A look at these voting results, is this voting block 109 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: big enough that you must now pay attention and be 110 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: able to sell yourselves, sell your story, whether it's the 111 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 2: Amber Duck story, that Tony Kat's story, the Republican story 112 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: for me, a conservative story. 113 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: How do you. 114 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: Sell that story as this is a better option and opportunity. 115 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: I think you have to have high profile female quote 116 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: unquote leaders who are making the case one like Kelsey 117 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: Ballerini did. I went this route and it didn't work 118 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: for me, and I feel dissatisfied with my choices. And 119 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 3: then also you have to elevate family women who can 120 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: tell people, yeah, did do this and it made my 121 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: life so much better, so enriching, so fulfilling. And I 122 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: don't think that the Republican Party or conservatives have that 123 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 3: many vocal women who are actually living that lifestyle. I 124 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: mean a lot of us. I didn't get married until 125 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: I was twenty nine, and when people ask, you know 126 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 3: what I think about that, I would say, well, I 127 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: wish I had gotten married sooner, Like being married is 128 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: the best thing ever. But you look around at female 129 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: conservative commentators and a lot of them are not married, 130 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: do not have children. So we're sort of selling this 131 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: message that a lot of us are not actually living, 132 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 3: which makes that difficult. I also think, you know, in 133 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: terms of why young women are really susceptible to this 134 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 3: liberal message of taking care of victims, is women are 135 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: also naturally conflict avoidant, and so when you have an 136 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: entire party telling you that you are a racist, a fascist, 137 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: a homophoba transphobe if you do not agree with their policies, 138 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: most women just kind of flip the switch and say, well, well, okay, 139 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: I don't want to be that, so I will vote 140 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: with you. Because they don't want to have that aggressive 141 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: conflict where they are having to defend themselves constantly from accusations. 142 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: They would rather just do the thing so that they 143 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: can avoid having that fight. 144 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 1: In order for that to be true. 145 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: Talking to Amber Duke, Dailycaller dot com catchers, the host 146 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: of Rising on the Hill dot com. When you're not 147 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: listening to my morning show, you can watch her morning show. 148 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 1: It's allowed. 149 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: The flip side to your argument is, therefore there is 150 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: something about this that is attractive to younger female voters. 151 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: Right. 152 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: Certainly, if you argue a case of conflict avoidance, that's interesting. 153 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: That's something to take in. 154 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: But there also has to be something of value on 155 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: the other side your one argument, I'm not saying it's yours. Specifically, 156 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: the argument that you are espousing that is believed is 157 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: the idea of agreement and being able to feel welcome. 158 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: So that brings us to something I mentioned on on Twitter. Actually, 159 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: you actually wrote about this is Jennifer Welch, this new 160 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: shining star of the left. The left is finally found 161 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: there Joe Rogan. She was a host on Bravo for 162 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: like two years doing a home renovation type of show, 163 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: interior design show. She's cursing every four seconds, and it 164 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: is not I don't think I get to. 165 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think you should judge people on 166 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: how they look. 167 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: I will say this is not the look I want 168 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: my young sons to go for. This is angry, This 169 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: is bitter, this is vicious, this is nasty. And I 170 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: don't think I'm speaking at a school here. I think 171 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: I'm dead on accurate. You literally wrote the headline. Democrats 172 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: think reality TV has been Jennifer Welch will save them 173 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: good luck. 174 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: Young women are attracted to this. 175 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 3: So here's why I think that even though she comes 176 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: across as very aggressive and actually seeking conflict, why still 177 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: conflict avoidant behavior? Because the left does not break ranks, 178 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: They do not have internal debates with each other, They 179 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 3: do not condemn right, they don't do like the ritual 180 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: condemnations that the right consistently feels forced to do. So 181 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: she can go on TV and criticize Dad Vans for 182 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 3: having an Indian wife while supporting President Trump. She can 183 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: accuse Mike Johnson of being gay. And this is just 184 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: a small smattering of some of the nasty things she 185 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: said on TV. And the left goes, you're amazing. We're 186 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 3: going to make you a star. You're the best thing 187 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 3: that's ever happened to the podcast world. You are the left, 188 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: Joe Rogan, we love you so much. If she were 189 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: doing this on the right, the right would say, you 190 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: need help, and we need to make sure that we 191 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: are either sort of getting you away from this toxic 192 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 3: things that you're saying on TV, or we're going to 193 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 3: push you out of the movement. And so I think 194 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: when women look at the conservative movement and there's a 195 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: lot of constant debate happening. I mean, we saw it 196 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: last week with all of the Heritage and Tucker stuff, 197 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: that's that's conflict, right, that's internal conflict. So when they're 198 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: part of an in group, they don't want to be 199 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 3: having their own group sort of pushing them and challenging them. 200 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: She called Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House gay. 201 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 3: Oh yes, repeatedly, what's what she's one of her six? 202 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: What is it about the left that they all tell 203 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 2: us that we should embrace homosexuality, we should embrace the 204 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: trans culture, embrace everything. By the way, there's a real 205 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 2: giant difference between homosexuality and trance culture. 206 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: The lergy and the b should be dropping the tea 207 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: right away. 208 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 2: It should have happened years ago, and now all of 209 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: a sudden they utilize that as an insult. 210 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: When did that happen? 211 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: It's it's actually incredible, and I think it actually tells 212 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: you that a lot of this sort of embrace of 213 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: the LGBT community, as they call it, is very facially fake. 214 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: It's obviously politically motive. They convinced these people that they 215 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: were victims, and so they had to ride along with 216 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: the Democratic Party. But then you see that what JD. 217 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: Vance called quote unquote normal gays are breaking more for Republicans, 218 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 3: and so the gays are no longer useful to them, 219 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 3: only the teaser. 220 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: That's that's correct. Wait a second. 221 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: Every now and again you get hit with an answer 222 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 2: that's just correct, that's correct, and. 223 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: When someone is not useful. 224 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: You know, we discuss the fact that if you're black 225 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: and conservative to the left, you're really not black. And 226 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: if you're gay and conservative to the left, you're really 227 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: not gain. If you're a woman and conservative to the left, 228 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: you're really not a woman, which is something I would 229 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 2: only bet dollars on that you have run across in 230 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 2: your life. But getting back to this conversation about getting 231 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: the vote, if you're advising Republicans as we are less 232 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: than a year away from the midterms, is there one step, 233 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: two steps, three steps to making yourself more attractive as 234 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: a candidate. Two younger women and what it is they're 235 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: concerned with or looking at, or what they're being inundated with. 236 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: What is your take? 237 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 3: So, I think one of the biggest lessons and this 238 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: is not even specific to young women, but it is 239 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: something that motivated them specifically very heavily during this last election, 240 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: which is what we've been talking about, the affordability issue. 241 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 3: Even the young women who maybe want to start a 242 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: family one day feel like they're never going to have 243 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: the opportunity to purchase a home, that they're going to 244 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 3: have to be dual income earners them and whoever they 245 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 3: eventually marry, and so that just doesn't seem realistic to them. 246 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 3: And I think that's one of the reasons why women 247 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 3: are getting married later, why some of them, when you 248 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: ask them in polls what matters most to them, they 249 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: put marriage and children really low down because they are 250 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: so singularly focused on achieving what they view as financial 251 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: success before they do those things. I think the second 252 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 3: part of it is framing these issues of immigration and 253 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: public safety and crime, which are still really resonant with 254 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 3: voters even a year after Trump selection, is to frame 255 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 3: those around how they impact women. There are so many 256 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 3: stories on the immigration front of people like Joscelyn Hungary, 257 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 3: Rachel Morin Lake and Riley, and on the crime front 258 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 3: of women who have been victimized, and I think being 259 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: able to elevate those stories a little bit more and 260 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 3: make it very specific is perhaps an effective way to 261 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 3: get them to care about that issue. Because when we 262 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: see the difference between unmarried women and married women, married 263 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: women care about public safety because they want their kids 264 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: to be safe. So for young women to care, we 265 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 3: have to convince them that you are not safe, which 266 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: is the reality in a lot of these blue cities, 267 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: right and Unfortunately, some people don't really get that until 268 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: they see it personally, and I think that just has 269 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: to be hammered home really hard. 270 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 2: Amber Duke, the Daily Caller and rising over the there 271 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: at the Hill dot Com. Appreciate you taking the time 272 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 2: to be with us more to get to I'm Tony Katz.