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Speaker 1: That you're listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show.

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Speaker 2: Hi there, my name is Nigel. Jason Hammer is here with.

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Speaker 1: A very special guest on the Hotline, a man who.

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Speaker 3: Would have stood up last night had he been invited

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Speaker 3: to the State of the Union, the Daily Signal, the

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Speaker 3: Tony Kennitt Cast, Tony Kennett, the Tonas How were you, Bubby?

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Speaker 1: I'm great, guys.

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Speaker 4: I actually canceled the trip to DC to broadcast out

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Speaker 4: of Indiana because I despise that city, and so last

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Speaker 4: night I sat in the studio in Greenfield, and I mean, Hammer,

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Speaker 4: you tell Niage, it's a nice place to broadcast from.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's beats DC.

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Speaker 3: Dude, your studio is fantastic. I've done some fill in

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Speaker 3: work for other cities out of the Tony Kennett Radio

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Speaker 3: network and it's pretty solid, So I get it. Hey, man,

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Speaker 3: what did you think of the big speech last night?

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Speaker 4: I will, for the one of the first times ever,

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Speaker 4: admit I was dead wrong. I said it on this show.

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Speaker 4: I said, I expect it's going to be a lot

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Speaker 4: of stuff that where he goes on rabbit trails and

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Speaker 4: he kind of gets lost in the weeds on a

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Speaker 4: couple of things, and it's just going to be a

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Speaker 4: big circus from both sides.

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Speaker 1: I was dead wrong. I apologize and he was.

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Speaker 4: He did probably one of the best performances I think

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Speaker 4: He beat the Democrats ruthlessly, and they humiliated themselves.

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Speaker 1: Why they were doing it, I mean.

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Speaker 4: And that doesn't even account for the Democrats themselves that evening,

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Speaker 4: but just Trump alone, he glossed over the tariff stuff,

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Speaker 4: he glossed over the Supreme Court stuff, and he focused

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Speaker 1: It was incredible.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So the argument you're going to hear from people

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Speaker 3: that are maybe listening for the first time, Oh, Tony

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Speaker 3: Kennett and WIBC, you guys carry a Republican's water, which

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Speaker 3: is a ridiculous argument. Ask Governor Holcombe, asked Todd Young,

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Speaker 3: Ask Jefferson shreeve. But I digress. But what made it

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Speaker 3: a good speech? Because you've been critical of Trump in

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Speaker 4: So last week President Trump got out on stage in

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Speaker 4: front of everybody after the Supreme Court decision, and he's liars, murderers,

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Speaker 4: if he gets up in front of the State of

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Speaker 1: And he didn't do so, he didn't sit there and go.

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Speaker 4: Dearriff's my favorite word, right next to Sydney Sweeney.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't get to do that either.

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Speaker 4: It was just good and I'm sorry. I know, you

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Speaker 4: guys know I hate the Trump plays political forty chess thing.

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Speaker 4: I hate that because I think he's just a dude.

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Speaker 4: Last night, though, he boxed them in on purpose to

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Speaker 4: where he would say, stand up if you like Jesus,

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Speaker 2: Then talk about, okay, the optics of the Democrats sitting

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Speaker 1: There's that, but.

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Speaker 2: There's also the psychos, the Rashida to lebs, the ilhan

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump is giving his address, What about those optics?

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Speaker 4: So I think you can best summarize this by saying

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Speaker 4: Took him like three and a half minutes to say

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Speaker 4: If you're going to do something, have it all in

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Speaker 1: Just the Democrats.

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Speaker 4: I mean it props act Blue Traveler out here.

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Speaker 1: My god. Caratapas entered the chat.

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Speaker 3: He's about a thing full of props to the conversation.

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Speaker 2: I remember when you guys like that, when you remember

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Speaker 1: You lie.

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Speaker 2: You remember that moment, and you would have thought the.

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Speaker 2: Children, and it was on display, and you, like you said,

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Speaker 2: it was a masterclass from Donald Trump. He trapped them,

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Speaker 4: Slit my wrists. You didn't see that from Trump here.

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Speaker 4: And I'm thrilled. He made it about the people. He

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Speaker 1: That's awesome stuff. I love it. I want to see

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Speaker 3: Tony Kennett joining us. He'll be on tonight seven o'clock

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Speaker 3: the Tony Kennett Cast, right after our program. So let's

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Speaker 3: look ahead to midterms here. I think heading into last night,

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Speaker 3: all the projections show that the Democrats were going to

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Speaker 4: So I still maintain that the party that goes into

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Speaker 4: That's what Democrats are doing. If they truly believed they

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Speaker 4: They think, oh, everyone hates Ice, everyone hates Trump, no problem.

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Speaker 1: Historically, that's a very bad move. I think the State of.

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Speaker 3: Tony Kennitt with us from the Daily Signal and he's

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Speaker 3: the host of the Tony Kennitt Cast seven o'clock right

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Speaker 3: after our show Monday through Friday here at WIBC. One

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Speaker 3: more thing on State of the Union before we move

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Speaker 3: on to this China Panama thing here. But I'm watching

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Speaker 3: some of the Democrats sit down, others still I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: We saw Elizabeth Warren stand up, we saw Fetterman stand up.

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Speaker 3: Do you think there's a pretty big division in the

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Speaker 1: And Americans are getting really sick and tired of that.

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Speaker 1: People like Elizabeth Warren are going hmmm.

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Speaker 4: When Rosa Deloro does the music video, I want to

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's not the move.

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Speaker 4: He's like, I can't give these people directions.

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Speaker 3: Right, we got about a minute left here, Tony China, Panama, China,

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Speaker 3: and the media.

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Speaker 1: Reaction break it down for me.

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Speaker 4: So remember that when Trump said he's going to play

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Speaker 4: going to send the troops down to Panama. And this

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Speaker 4: that he was playing hardball because China wanted to do

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Speaker 4: They have canceled all projects in and around Panama Canal.

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Speaker 4: They've given him up to mask shipping, and essentially China

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Speaker 4: has been effectively boxed out of the entire Western hemisphere

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Speaker 4: at this point, with the exception of that is a

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Speaker 4: massive accomplishment for the President.

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Speaker 1: It's getting no coverage and also screw China. What's coming

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Speaker 1: up on the Big Show tonight?

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Speaker 4: So you know last night we did we did a

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Speaker 4: little bit of the State of Union stuff so that

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Speaker 4: tonight I could make fun of Zora and Mamdani and

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Speaker 4: of course most importantly the Chinese.

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Speaker 3: All Right, can't wait for that? Find him on Twitter

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Speaker 3: at the tonas. He is the man behind the Tony

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Speaker 3: Kennett cast. Tony awesome stuff. Brother, we'll talk again next week.

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Speaker 3: You guys are the best.

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Speaker 1: Do not go anywhere more.

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Speaker 3: Hammer and Nigel Show coming up next