1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: He was the last Republican to run the city of Indianapolis, 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: and now he has a book talking all about it. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: It is The Kendall and Casey Show, and Rob Casey's 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: out today. Jerry Lopez inf Casey joined in studio. He 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: spent two terms as the mayor of the City of Indianapolis. 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: The great Greg Ballard, mister mayor, Hello. 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: Rob, thanks for having me. I really appreciate it. 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: Okay, So you have a new book out and it's 9 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: called Urban Republican Mayor My Story. Now we're gonna do 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: a little deep dive on the book. But one of 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: the things that's fasting about the book, and we're just 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: talking about this off. 13 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: Air, is the role that you give WIBC. 14 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: Greg Garrison in particular credit to for you becoming the 15 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: mayor of the City of Indianapolis. 16 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: He was absolutely critical when no one was paying attention 17 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: to me in O seven, he kept having me on 18 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: the his show, which is a massive audience. It's something 19 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: you're familiar with. 20 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: Yes, thank you. I'm gonna record that and I'm gonna 21 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: start using that in the promo. 22 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: So the and you know, since my opponent wouldn't come on, 23 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: I kind of had free reign to come in and 24 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: he really helped me. And I was, you know, as 25 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 2: you can read in the book, it's I was a 26 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: little naive, a little unpolished, and that's okay. But he 27 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: helped me through those times, helped me through the radio certainly. 28 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: So most many long time HOOSI result will know the 29 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: story of you, but it's an incredible story. You were 30 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: elected mayor of the city in Indianapolis two thousand and seven, 31 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: and you were just sort of the guy who raised 32 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: your hand and said, okay, I'll draw the short straw 33 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: this cycle and I'll run. And you were this just 34 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: kind of obscure military guy, and then you shocked the 35 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: world and became the mayor. Just can do you remember 36 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: election night where you like, oh crap, I won? Like 37 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: what was it like when the. 38 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: Final folks were Actually I was not shocked, and I 39 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: remember the journey so well, and I'm so I'm so 40 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: glad that I got it down before before my memory 41 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: goes right. So I'm glad I got it down in print. 42 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: But no, I would have been shocks if I'd lost 43 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: that night. Really, oh yeah, the last two weeks I 44 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: thought it was mine. 45 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: That is interesting. What what turn the tide, because there's 46 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: usually a moment any person who runs and wins, there's 47 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: kind of a moment where like, Okay, as long as 48 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: I turn out, I'm gonna I'm gonna do this. 49 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: What was that moment for you? 50 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: I didn't know that there was that moment because we 51 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: had no polling numbers, we didn't have any money money. 52 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: I remember my opponent had four million bucks and at most, 53 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: and this was just in the last two weeks of 54 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: the campaign. I had two hundred thousand, but with a 55 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: month ago, I had like less than fifty thousand. Yeah, 56 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: and I've been working hard trying to raise money, but 57 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: it was clearly it was not going to happen. So 58 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: I had to have an alternate strategy. But the last 59 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: two weeks I was pretty confident. I told somebody, you 60 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: probably know, four days before the election, you're going to 61 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,839 Speaker 2: be the first call after the election, and he said 62 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: he'd be honored to take it. Because I was really 63 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: confident in that point. Because I'm not exaggerating this, I 64 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: had over one hundred Democrats whisper in my ear or 65 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: telling me silently because they couldn't say it publicly, And 66 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 2: they said it just like this. I've never voted for 67 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 2: a Republican of my life, and I'm voting for you. 68 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 3: Was the was the property tax thing. 69 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: The issue that was the entry point, that was not 70 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: the final point. 71 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: Uh. 72 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: It got me a little bit of recognition, didn't really 73 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: because it's really a kind of a state issue. However, 74 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: four years previous to that, that was a bit of 75 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: an issue and not a lot was done about it 76 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: at that time. So when it came up again and 77 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: they had the tea parties and property tax bills being 78 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: thrown in the White River and all that, I was there. Yeah, 79 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: I wanted all the visibility I could get because I 80 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: was getting no visibility at all. So uh, but then 81 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: when they raised the income taxes sixty five percent in August, 82 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: three months before the election, on top of the property 83 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: tax flascow that was going on all summer long. 84 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: That when that happened, there's a Lopez you'll appreciate this, 85 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: Terry Lopez in for Katya. Remember in the scene and 86 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: Animal House where the playboy with the girl like falls 87 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: to the guy's window, the kid's window while he's reading 88 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: the playboy, and he just looks up and goes, thank 89 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: you God. When they raised the income Texas was that 90 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: you did you go, thank you. 91 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: But again I'm not sure that was quite it. It 92 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: certainly those two on top of each other got to 93 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: what I think might have been a culminating point in 94 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: the military terms budget night, city County council president locked 95 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: the doors. So people were angry. They wanted to get 96 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: in and say their thing. The I got I actually 97 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: got into the council session. I mean I was there. 98 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: I got there early enough, and I got in there. 99 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 2: Then they overflowed into the ticket or they overflowed into 100 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: the halls, and then it was I remember it's ninety 101 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: five degrees now hot in humid August. It locked the people. 102 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: That door is never locked, but it was locked that night, 103 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: and that became a real issue because the press they 104 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 2: were covering some press were covering inside, lots of press 105 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 2: were covering outside that the people were locked out of 106 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: the People's building. 107 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 4: So as you being the last Republican mayor of the city, 108 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 4: and the way that it's looking, Republicans have an uphill 109 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 4: fight to ever try to win the city back. What 110 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 4: can we do better to give us a fighting chance 111 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 4: here in a city that you really helped And one 112 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 4: two elections in which is unheard of these days. 113 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: Well, that's a great party. It was a democratic city 114 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: when I won too. I must remember that. They say 115 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: it's more democratic now, Okay, that's true, but I I, 116 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 2: you know, I it's tough to say this, but at 117 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: the rhetoric at the federal level, and what's happening at 118 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: the federal level hurts Republicans in the cities. It just does. 119 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: And there are two out of the top twenty five 120 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: cities in America that are run by Democrats, and they're 121 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: in the South, and they're largely Republican cities as opposed 122 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: to democratic cities. Try to find a Republican in a 123 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: democratic city right now, and I think you're going to 124 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: come up blank. So that didn't used to be that way. 125 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: So you'd think it makes it harder for guys like you, because, 126 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: let's face it, you do to some level have to 127 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: run a middle ish type of campaign. It's a nuts 128 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 1: and bolts campaign. It's roads, it's bridges, it's snow removal, 129 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: it's public safety. But you think that the federal rhetoric 130 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: hurts the ability to do that. 131 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: I do. And you could run the middle ground, and 132 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: which is Okay, I'm not sure that's good necessarily get 133 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: you there. There has to be some I was lucky. 134 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: I was. I'm very open. I was the million to 135 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: one shot and it happened to me. Yeah, that's just 136 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: the way it was, and I got that. But I 137 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: took advantage of it. I didn't make the big mistake 138 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: going into it. But going back to the rhetoric is 139 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 2: cities are built differently than suburbs and rural areas. There 140 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: are lots of different minorities, a lot of ethnicities in there, 141 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: and sometimes, frankly, what we say at the as we're 142 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 2: trying to get elected in other areas, that filters down 143 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: and when it comes down to the cities, then that 144 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: doesn't play well and people have trouble voting that way. 145 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: Greg Ballard is our guest. He's the former two term 146 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: mayor of Indianapolis. Is a new book out, Urban Republican Mayor. 147 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: My story are all right? So how would you have 148 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: handled the riots of twenty twenty because I think that's 149 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: sort of the signature issue of like if hog sets 150 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: administration the past ten years was sort of an event, 151 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: and you were so much better on public safety, right, 152 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: Like you look at the numbers, they're not even they're 153 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: not even closed, right, How would you have handled that 154 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: period of time? 155 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: I gotta be careful in how I say this. 156 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: No, you know, I come to the Kenney Casey the 157 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: wrong seale. 158 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: If you want to be careful, Let's go back to 159 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: Ridey King in ninety two, Steve Goldsmith. Yeah, Bart Peterson 160 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: had his, I had Ferguson. Riots and cities are all 161 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: across the nation, not in Indianapolis, that's right, Not in 162 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: Indianapolis in any of those instances. 163 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: And I think that's why people were shocked that it 164 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: happened here, not one night. 165 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: But two. 166 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: So I'm suggesting to you they wouldn't have happened. 167 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't think they would have. I don't 168 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: think they would. 169 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: Have because there are you know, you could there are 170 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: elements in place if you do the right things, the 171 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: elements and place where you can let people have their say. 172 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: Let them what we did on Ferguson and Goldsmith did differently, 173 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: and you can just let them have you know, you 174 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: can do it in another way, so that doesn't get 175 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: like that. 176 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: How did you keep like I remember towards the end 177 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: of your second term, because. 178 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: People like not only did you win, you got re elected. 179 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: I did in a blue city. How did you except 180 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: for what there was? 181 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: And my numbers were in the seventies? Wow, heading into 182 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: a third term. 183 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you screwed the city by not running again. I 184 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: hope you're a happy pal. Hey, by the way, I thought, 185 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: I told I told the mayor. 186 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: I said, by the time you get done with this 187 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: interview today, my goal is that you're going to uh, 188 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: You're going to call our friend Mark Diedle, sell that 189 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: nice house you got in White's Town, and move back 190 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: to the city to run for a run for a 191 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: third time third term. 192 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,599 Speaker 3: Oh was there a reason you o? 193 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: Well, I want to ask you about the violence, because 194 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: I remember towards the end of your second term there 195 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: was numbers were over one hundred and we were like, 196 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, these numbers are getting so high. We 197 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: would give an extremity to go back to those numbers 198 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: you had in terms of homicides in your administration. 199 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: Well, that's as I describing the book. I think pretty well, 200 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: the numbers were in the one hundred and fifteen one 201 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty range when I took office. By two 202 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: thousand and nine, they were in the nineties four straight years. 203 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: You can go back thirty forty years, you'll only find 204 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 2: four years in the nineties, and they were they were 205 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 2: mine in a row. Then the Castle changed what we 206 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: were doing because the Castle leadership changed, I wasn't able 207 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: to do what I wanted to do at the level 208 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: it was. 209 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: And then did they ever tell you why, Well, they 210 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: just didn't like that there were few people getting murdered. 211 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: What well, I'm sure they didn't see it like that, 212 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: but they did. They the what we call the crime 213 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: prevention money started going different places. Yeah, and uh, and 214 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 2: I think that had a major effect on what was happening. 215 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: That said, you know, we kind of had had a 216 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: little bit of rough Yere's not not in the two 217 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: hundreds or anything like that, just over one hundred, and 218 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: then by fifteen actually with Troy Riggs, we kind of 219 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: had it back. And you may not remember this. I 220 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: remember all of this clearly, but through the end of 221 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: May in twenty fifteen, we had like forty one forty 222 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: two murders, which is on an angle basis pretty pretty low. 223 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: Especially and because I remember this specifically, and I hope 224 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: nobody from Baltimore is listening, but I mean we had 225 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: as many murders through May as Baltimore had in May. 226 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's like like this and this will shock you, 227 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: mister Mayor. I used to really like to drink and 228 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: coming downtown was one of my favorite places. I can remember. 229 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: This was fifteen, we're still Mayor. I can remember walking 230 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: like from mass av all the way back to downtown. 231 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: I would never do that today and you didn't even 232 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: think of the thing about it at three in the morning, 233 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: just you know, walking through the graild downtown. 234 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 5: I remember weekends we just drive around the circle listening 235 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 5: to music. 236 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 4: And nobody would get shot, right, So, like, how would 237 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 4: you hit? One of the big things now is the 238 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 4: youth that are out and you're just a curfews and 239 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 4: what are we going to do? And the find and 240 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 4: the what kind of you know, approached that because it's 241 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 4: hard for me to want to have the police be babysitters. 242 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: There's lots of things we did differently, and there's it's 243 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: very well, I don't know if you read the Public 244 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: Safety chapter you got there yet or not, but it's 245 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: very detailed in what we did and it was very specific, 246 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 2: and I would suggested looking at that would make a difference. 247 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 2: I think that's right there, but I know it's really good. 248 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: But I always thought it was important to have somebody 249 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: in charge of public safety. We have a parks director, 250 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: we have a DM and D director, uh and but 251 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: the most important one, we don't have a public safety director. 252 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: And I thought that was absolutely critical. And to have 253 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: somebody not political at all, somebody who's going to come 254 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: in and do a really really good job because they 255 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: do different things that listen to the police chief right 256 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 2: now is a great guy. I know, christ was a 257 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 2: lieutenant when I was the mayor. He was he was 258 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 2: a terrific guy, still is. But he's got an organization 259 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: run and he has law enforcement. Law enforcement's one element 260 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: of public safety. It's not the only element of public safety. 261 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: So somebody has to put all those other pieces together 262 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,239 Speaker 2: so that it works together. And so I'm I'm suggesting 263 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: that that's something to be looked at. Who who helps 264 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: you on the street really matters also. 265 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: Okay, And without revealing too much, just want people to 266 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: buy the book. Why did you decide not to run 267 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: for a third term? 268 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: It was similar to how when I left the Marine Corps, 269 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: I left on my own terms In the Marine Corps too. 270 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: After twenty three years. Actually we were I was physically 271 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: and mentally exhausted. I really was. And if I would 272 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: have had a year in between, I probably would have 273 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: done it again, gone again. 274 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: Like Michael Jordan, if you could have just take a 275 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: year baseball, you'd come back and being the. 276 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: Mayor something like that. But I was. I was a 277 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: and this goes back to, uh, you know, my my 278 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: marine days. If you if you can't do your if 279 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: you can't do your duty, then you need to get 280 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: out of there. And I didn't think I could do 281 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: be the mayor at the level that I had been 282 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 2: the last year your eight years. I didn't think I 283 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: could do it for another four years. And I thought, frankly, 284 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: I thought the citizens deserved somebody who could put their 285 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: best effort in for the four years I was afraid 286 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 2: I could not. 287 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I get that one hundred percent. 288 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: If you do, and I've said this quite a bit, 289 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: if you do elected office right, you should be ready 290 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: to get out of it. 291 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 2: We were everywhere, Winnie and I were everywhere, and it 292 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 2: was very and we had a reputation for staying until 293 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 2: at night, and we were out six nights a week 294 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: every week for four years the first four years. We 295 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: cut it down like four or five nights the second 296 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: four years. But we were, we were, and I'm introverted, 297 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: and you got to get that. I'm an introverted guy, 298 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: so I need to rest. Tended to take a lot 299 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: of Sundays off. 300 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: All right, tell us where we can get the book 301 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: and make the sale. Why should people buy Urban Republican 302 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: Mayor my story? 303 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: Well, it's how I grew up and it was kind 304 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: of fun. I was joking the other there was somebody 305 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: else that my entire childhood is in eight pages, so 306 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: must not have been that dramatic. But it's a lot 307 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: of time in the Marine Corps, how it related to 308 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 2: how I was became the mayor, what that effect had 309 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: on me, And then there's about two hundred pages of 310 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: what we did in office, and there's some thoughts at 311 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: the end of it, also about Urban Republican Mayor about 312 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: Urban Republicans. 313 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: Well, there's so much. There's so much great local stuff 314 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: in there. If you're just a fan of even if 315 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: you're not a government person, if you're just a fan 316 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: of Indianapolis history and local people and things, there's so 317 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: many things in there that are just just great that 318 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: I think people would really here. 319 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: There's a lot of stories in there and why we 320 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: did things. 321 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great, mister Mayor. 322 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to see you, and thank you for 323 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: spending a few minutes with us. 324 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: Rob appreciate it very much. 325 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Kenelly Casey Show, ninety three WIBC Big News. Jerry. 326 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: Somebody has won almost ten million dollars in the Greater 327 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: Columbus area and we need to be friends with them. 328 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: It's Kennell and Casey Show. I'm Rob Jerry Lopez in 329 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: for Casey. Find him on Twitter at Indian Spanglish. According 330 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: to our news gathering partners over at WISH TV, a 331 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: nine point nine million dollar Who's Your Loto jackpot for 332 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: Saturday's drawing was one with a ticket purchased at a 333 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: gas station and convenience store in Columbus. Now my question 334 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: to you, Jerry Lopez, if indeed you won nine point 335 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: nine million dollars, what would you do with it? 336 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 4: I think the first thing I'd do is probably set 337 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 4: away some money for the kids, little trust fun stuff 338 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 4: so if they can't really touch it. 339 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, change my name and real pull out baby. 340 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 3: You would change your name. 341 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: You would not stay in the city and embrace the 342 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: I'd have a stage name, fame and power that would 343 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: come with no having that sort of cause. 344 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 5: Okay, that's not that much money by t I mean 345 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 5: it sucks. 346 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 4: That's a lot of money for me, but like that's 347 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 4: not a lot of money by today's rich people standard. 348 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: Well, you got to take about forty percent of it 349 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: out for taxes, right when you're pulling in that sort 350 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: of money. Now, I don't know, we're operating with blinders 351 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: on here because I don't know if what the actual 352 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, there's always the payout, do you take it 353 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: over time whatever. Let's say if you took the payout 354 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: and with taxes, let's just pick a number, right, Let's 355 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: say you ended up. 356 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: With four million dollars. Yeah, maybe that's realistic. I don't know. 357 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: But for the purpose of this exercise, if you ended 358 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: up with four million dollars, that's a lot of money, 359 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: but it's not and it is life changing, but it's 360 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: not You're not in a generational wealth type of difference there. 361 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you could blow it through four million pretty 362 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: fast if you're not careful. 363 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 5: Quickly, Okay, I mean four million is not that much. 364 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: Let's see. 365 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: I still think even with four million dollars, I would 366 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: definitely have to rent the lock Miller building so I 367 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: could drop the way it would now be bronze sucks 368 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: giants sheet out of it like h and I might 369 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: rotate them like I think if I could rent the 370 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: So the lock Miller Building, for people don't know, it's 371 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: a very famous It's an old building right in the 372 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: heart of what is that? 373 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 3: Is that Washington Street that it's on? No? Is that? Yeah? 374 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 3: Washington Street? Right, it's on Washington Street. 375 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 5: They're directing the Gumment Center, Yeah, Jeffrey. 376 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: Cross from the Government Center and by the State House, 377 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: and so all the politicos for the most part, or 378 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: any of the government organs basically would see this throughout 379 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: the course of the day. It's a multi story building, 380 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: and I have proposed for years that if I came 381 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: into a large amount of money, one of the things 382 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: I would do would be to rent something on the 383 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: second floor, which would get me window access. So like 384 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: Kramer in the Kenny Rogers Chicken episode on Seinfeld, I 385 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: could just drape giant bed sheets with sayings out of there. 386 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: And I think now for years we had said it 387 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: would be Holcombe sucks, and then I had Todd Young sucks. 388 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: There's so many of them. Now you got Braun, you 389 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: got Todd Young, you got Ji Banks, you got. 390 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: Rokita, you got Diego, you got Mike. 391 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: Like, I would just have to have a rotating set 392 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: of bed sheets with a different person's name on it 393 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: every single day, seven days a week. And I think 394 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: for a period of time, maybe a year or so, 395 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: that's what I would do. At the a portion of 396 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: my money that would be a small person. I don't 397 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: think it'd be that much to rent part of the 398 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: second floor there to be able to. 399 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: Pull that off. 400 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 4: If I hit, I'll give you money just to pull 401 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 4: it off. I mean, you have my word on that. 402 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 4: I want to see that. 403 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. 404 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: And then other than that, like I mean, because you 405 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: would have to be somewhat cognizant of four million dollars 406 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: if I'm not careful, won't last me forever. I mean 407 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: you you could obviously do a lot of great things 408 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: with it and have a lot of fun with it. 409 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: But it's not like these people who win five hundred 410 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: million dollars in the in the lottery. Your life is 411 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: being changed you no longer have to worry that about things, 412 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: but you still got to be smart about it. Yeah, 413 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,719 Speaker 1: it'll go quick, it'll go quick. And no, listen, we're 414 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: talking about four million bucks. I'm setting aside a whole 415 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: lot less money now for the kids. That's look your kid, though, 416 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: Jaden is smart enough because he does the crypto that 417 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: he would figure out a way to make a lot 418 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: more money off of that money if you gave. 419 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 3: It to him. 420 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 4: Oh, that dude is chartering private jets now, yeah for athletes, right, Yeah, 421 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 4: it's crazy. 422 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's your son. 423 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: Is going to be one of those guys that no 424 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: matter what he falls into, he will come out smelling 425 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: smelling like a rose and like a million dollars. All right, 426 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: let's take a let's take a break when we come back. 427 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: Got a couple of special guests. So obviously there's a 428 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: lot of talking about Epstein and sex trafficking, and the 429 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: reality is, while the Epstein stuff is totally abhorrent and 430 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: we should get the truth on that, human sex trafficking 431 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: is still a major problem, not just in this country, 432 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: not just across the globe, but certainly right here in 433 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: Central Indiana. It is prevalent all over our country. It 434 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: is prevalent here in our state. And there's a great group. 435 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: We talk about them a lot. Their name is Project Rescue. 436 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: Most people know the money that I make off the 437 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: I Hate and I Love Rob Kendall t shirts from 438 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: the Hammer Nigel Store goes to Project Rescue. They've got 439 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: a big event coming up. They're partnering with our friends 440 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: at Life Church and they want you to be a 441 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: part of it to help stamp out human sex trafficking 442 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: across the country. And it's a chance to visit the 443 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: Lucas Oil State. We'll talk about it coming up next. 444 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: Kennelly case Show ninety three. 445 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 7: Wibc Epstein is in the news all the time that 446 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 7: the reality is human sex trafficking is still very real 447 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 7: and it's happening not just across the globe, but in 448 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 7: this country and yes, right here in Central Indiana. 449 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: And there are local folks who are trying to do 450 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: something about it, and they've got a big event coming 451 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 1: up or you can be a part of it. It 452 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: is the Kennelly Casey Show. I'm Rob Casey's out today. 453 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: Jerry Lopez in for Casey and with us here in 454 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: studio pastors Nathan Peternell and Mike Milido of Life Church 455 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: and they are once again partnering with our friends at 456 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: Project Rescue. Now you know Project Rescue. I'm a big 457 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: supporter of Project Rescue. That's where all the money that 458 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: I make off the I Hate and I Love Rob 459 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: Kendall t shirts from the Hammer and Nigel store goes 460 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: to and Project Rescue is a phenomenal organization that helps 461 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: stamp out human sex trafficking across the globe. Now, before 462 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: we get into the interview today, talk about this a 463 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: big event. Just a reminder Life Church they do advertise 464 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: here on WIBC, and Guys, before we talk about this 465 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: big event that Life Church is doing with Project Rescue, 466 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: talk about why Life Church puts such an emphasis and 467 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: importance on Project Rescue and stamping out human sex trafficking. 468 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 8: The Bible says in the Book of Micah, I've shown 469 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 8: the old man what is good and what the Lord 470 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 8: requires of you, but to do justly, to love mercy, 471 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 8: and to walk humbly with your God. And so when 472 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 8: you look at what's going on in our world, Christianity 473 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 8: should stand up and go hey not not. While I 474 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 8: was living I don't want I don't want it to 475 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 8: be seen that I never did something about the wickedness 476 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 8: in my world. And you know, Jesus talks a lot 477 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 8: about Hey, I was I was sick in you and 478 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 8: you comforted me. I was, I was in the hospital, 479 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 8: you visited me. I was in a jail, you visited me. 480 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 8: So there's this side of our faith that requires us 481 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 8: to get up and do something. And so there are 482 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 8: more people today in slavery than ever in the history 483 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 8: of the world. And so Project Rescue, which started in 484 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 8: a foreign you know, a foreign country across the world 485 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 8: and in Asia, is now I mean, they're rescuing women 486 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 8: and children all of the world. They don't just rescue 487 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 8: them out of it, but they totally change their lives 488 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 8: by showing them how they can live so they never 489 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 8: have to return to it. 490 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: Mike, talk about the strong footprint the Project Rescue has 491 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: here in Central Indiana. Most of our longtime listeners know 492 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: all the money that I make off the I hate 493 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: Rob Kendall and I love Rob Kendall T shirt. Once 494 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: a year I got to get on hammer. I think 495 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: I've got a donation coming very soon. 496 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 3: Goes there. 497 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: Talk about the strong footprint that Project Rescue has here 498 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: in Central Indiana and why so many people are standing 499 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: behind it. 500 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, we've had a long partnership with Project Rescue. One 501 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 6: of the reasons why I think it resonates so well 502 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 6: here in Indiana is we know we had that issue 503 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 6: right here in Indiana as well. 504 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 3: And in the. 505 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: Product, it's important to note that this is not something 506 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: that's just going on on border states or in foreign countries. 507 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 3: It's happening right here. 508 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 5: It's happening right here. 509 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 6: And when we have partnered with Project Rescue in the past, 510 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 6: it's also produced some results for efforts here, not today 511 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 6: as one of those organizations that's based here in Indianapolis 512 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 6: that we're able to partner with alongside with partnering with 513 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 6: Project Rescue to tackle the issue here and far. So 514 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 6: you know here in Indiana it's just near and dear 515 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 6: to our hearts because we understand that has an impact 516 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 6: here as well as there. 517 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 3: Nathan. 518 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: One of the things with human sex trafficking, because like 519 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: I said, it's all Epstein, right. People they think of 520 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: some guy taking little girls and flying them to an 521 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: island somewhere. Human sex trafficking happens in a variety of 522 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: ways and variety of forms. Can you talk a little 523 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: bit about what Project Rescue really focuses on. 524 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, first off, you can't just go in 525 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 8: and tactically take all these people out of this. A 526 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 8: lot of the times, these little girls all over the world, 527 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 8: I mean Project Rescues do in ministry on four continents, 528 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 8: to do it over I think fifteen countries, thirty two cities. 529 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 3: A lot of times. 530 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 8: What you have to do is you have to just 531 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 8: present hope. You have to present that if you want 532 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 8: out of this, there is a way. Now they don't 533 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 8: think that's possible. That's why actually Project Rescue began with 534 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 8: people giving their children, these these little girl little girls. Basically, 535 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 8: in many cases, these kids are taken as young at 536 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 8: nine years old. Their virginity is sold because in Hinduism 537 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 8: it says that if you get if you sleep with 538 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 8: a virgin, they can heal you of your sexually transmitted diseases. 539 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 8: So imagine that being the first experience of a little 540 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 8: nine year old girl, ten year old girl. That's where 541 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 8: they're sold. But then they're going to live in a 542 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 8: six six foot little brothel, and when they finally get pregnant, 543 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 8: their babies are going to be underneath of their of 544 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 8: the bed that they're turning tricks on which they'll turn 545 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 8: that trick over and over ten ten times a day. 546 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 8: And so Project Rescue, you know, it's invisible chains that 547 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 8: hold these people in place. They don't know where else 548 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 8: am I going to go? What else could I possibly do? 549 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 8: How else can I feed my child? And so Project 550 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 8: Rescue comes alongside and says, first off, we literally set 551 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 8: up medical places within the brothels and we say just come, 552 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 8: just come, we'll p for you. It starts there, and 553 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 8: then after that, eventually they may get to a point 554 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 8: where they go, you know what I would like to 555 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 8: be free. Well, you still have to take care of 556 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 8: that person in their body. You have to take care 557 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 8: of their soul, their mind, the rule, and their emotions 558 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 8: and their spirit. And Project Riscue does the whole work 559 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 8: of that to make sure that these girls will never 560 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 8: have to go back to that old life. 561 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: Mike Nathan hits on a good point with the human 562 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: sex trafficking. It's not just we've got these girls that 563 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: are hidden somewhere. It's many of these people who are 564 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: adults who are found. You've got to give them a 565 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: reason to leave the to leave the lifestyle. 566 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, you've got to earn their trust actually, And I 567 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 6: had the privilege a couple of years ago of visiting 568 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 6: Project Rescue in India and they were opening a new 569 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 6: safe house. And while I was there, I visited several 570 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 6: of those all over the country, and one of them 571 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 6: that I remember in particular, it was one of their 572 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 6: first safe houses, and a gentleman and his wife who 573 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 6: are running it, leaned over to me one night and said, 574 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 6: we're on our third generation. These little kids are growing 575 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 6: up with no idea of what trafficking is. And he 576 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 6: was so pleased to say that. The next day, I 577 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 6: was at a safe house where they were just opening, 578 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 6: and the plan was to spend the next year earning 579 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 6: trust enough to maybe start to help them a little bit. 580 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 3: But they have that. 581 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 6: Proven success over and over and over again, and they're 582 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 6: committed from start to finish, and their vision is not 583 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 6: only to rescue these young women, but that they would 584 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 6: become leaders of their nation. 585 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 1: Our guests, if you're just joining us, Nathan Peter, now 586 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: Mike Malito with Life Church. We're talking about Project Rescue, 587 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: which is a great organization here in Central Indiana that 588 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: fights human sex trafficking. Of course, this is all in 589 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: the news now because of Epstein, But whether Epstein's did 590 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: whatever or with us or not, human sex trafficking remains 591 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: very real and Life Church, along with Project Rescue, we're 592 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: trying to stamp that out here in Central Indiana, across 593 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: the country and across the world. All Right, So Nathan, 594 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: you guys have a big event. It's an annual event 595 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: that you do that the public can be a part of. 596 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: If they're passionate about what's been going on with Epstein, 597 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: if they've been learning about this and are outraged as 598 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: people should be right here in Central Indiana, they can 599 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: make a difference. 600 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 3: Tell us about it. 601 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you start. You start somewhere right, start 602 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 8: with the people that are actually doing something, and then 603 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 8: you know this, this is so big in the world, 604 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,239 Speaker 8: we're gonna we have to continue adding things. So one 605 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 8: of the things that Life Church has has has done 606 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 8: is the Hope Starts Here Breakfast. It's gonna be on 607 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 8: September eighteenth. It's a Thursday morning, and it's actually we 608 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 8: we partner with with some of our awesome partners like 609 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 8: the Lucas family and they allow us to use their 610 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 8: place and the Lucas Estate. Yes, this event is that 611 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 8: the Lucas Estate is at the Lucas Estate. 612 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: See, that would be great for me because no one 613 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: would ever let me into the Lucas Estate unless I 614 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,239 Speaker 1: went with an event like this. 615 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 8: It's a it's a beautiful place. And we just thank 616 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 8: them so much for their for their partnership because you know, 617 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 8: just just to have them also believe in what's going on, 618 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 8: it's just a great joy. But we we meet, we're 619 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 8: actually this year gonna hear from one of the young 620 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 8: ladies whose lives was totally changed by it. 621 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 3: She's gonna be coming in. 622 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 8: It's gonna be it's gonna be phenomenal. And you know, 623 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 8: we're just if you have a heart to see that 624 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 8: which is that was just evil stamped out. If if 625 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 8: if you, if you have a gift of giving, if 626 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 8: your business is one that you're like, you know what 627 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 8: I want to give because because I believe in giving, 628 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 8: I know the power of giving. But I want to 629 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 8: give to organizations that are vetted that I know the 630 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 8: maximum amount of every dollar is gonna go to this. 631 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 8: Then Project Rescue is an easy win for you because 632 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 8: I mean in some ways, if your heart doesn't open 633 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 8: to to this plague in our world, it's like, well, 634 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 8: what what really would move you? But I really believe 635 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 8: that generosity we saw that in our church, just a 636 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 8: spirit of unbelievable generosity that got released. And we want, 637 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 8: we want people to give with us because it's about 638 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 8: it's about it's about setting people free. On I think 639 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 8: about you know, we all sing that song Amazing Grace 640 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 8: houd Sweet, the sound that saved a wretch like me, 641 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 8: that was written by a slave trader whose life was changed. 642 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 8: We're not just we're not just seeing the kids set 643 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 8: free and the women set free. We're seeing the madams 644 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 8: and the pimps literally come to know Jesus. 645 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: It's the Hope Starts Here Project Rescue Breakfast fundraiser. It's Thursday, 646 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: September eighteenth at seven point thirty. It's totally free to attend. 647 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: You get to go to the Lucas Estate again. For 648 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: someone like me, this will be your only opportunity to 649 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: ever get in without some burly security guard X, you know, 650 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: excusing you from the premises. 651 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 3: Mike. 652 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: If people want to know more about this, if they're 653 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: driving down the road to going this sound is great, 654 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: but I need some time to process this. How can 655 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: they learn more about this? 656 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: Sure? 657 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 6: Absolutely, if you're wanting to learn more, you can text 658 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 6: the word breakfast to three one seven nine six one 659 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 6: eight three three zero. Even if if you think you 660 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 6: just want to go and literally learn more and find 661 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 6: ways later to get involved, it would be awesome to 662 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 6: have you and you would be inspired. 663 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 5: But there is no amount too small. 664 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 6: If you think of it this way, it seems like 665 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 6: an insurmountable issue, but just think about the one, the 666 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 6: one that gets rescued, the difference that makes for that one, 667 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 6: and when Project Rescue, when they rescue one, it kind 668 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 6: of snowballs and that whole community starts to come. So 669 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 6: you get to be a part of that. So you 670 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 6: can text the word breakfast to three one seven ninety 671 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 6: six one eighty three point thirty to register and it's free. 672 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 6: You'll get more information there and of course at the breakfast, 673 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 6: and of course breakfast is also free at the Lucas estate. 674 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 3: As you said, that's right. So here's what we'll do again. 675 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: The number to text breakfast three one seven nine six 676 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: one eight three three zero. I'm going to take a 677 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: photo of this card, the promo card, I'll put it 678 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: up at Robin Kendall on Twitter and you can see 679 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: it there too. If we while you're operating heavy machinery 680 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: or a motor vehicle, we don't want you to be 681 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: to be writing or texting while driving, so we'll put 682 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: it up there as well. And guys, I just think 683 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: this is such a phenomenal event. Like I said, been 684 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: a big supporter of Project Rescue for a long time. 685 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: And Nathan, I'll give you the last word on this. 686 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: If you're mad about your government not being honest with 687 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: you about Epstein, if you're mad about what's happening in 688 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: this country and not getting straight answer, you can do 689 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: something to make a difference and Project Rescue and this 690 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: event is a phenomenal way to start. 691 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think that Hoosiers are Yeah, 692 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 8: I'm not a native born Hoosier. I'm one. I'm a transplant. 693 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 8: But I fell in love with the people of Indiana 694 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 8: and I know that they are giving, loving, hardworking people, sharing, 695 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 8: and so you know, I just I just want to 696 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 8: tell you that if that's your heart today, you can 697 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 8: get involved and start somewhere. You know, Robbie's been a 698 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 8: long time partner with this. The LC coffee house that 699 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 8: we have is a is an awesome partnership. They're they're 700 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 8: helping do something and that's where to start and Rob 701 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 8: if it's if it's okay, could I could. 702 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 3: I pray over our se You sure can? 703 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, thanks Man, Heavenly Father, Lord, I just thank you 704 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 8: so much for the Hoosiers. I thank you God for 705 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 8: the heart that's in our people. I thank you for 706 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 8: the love that drives them. And God, as they look 707 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 8: around and they see the wickedness in the world, I 708 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 8: pray that you would move on their heart to do 709 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 8: something and to and to release the generosity that your 710 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 8: heart showed to us, to release that onto others also. 711 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 8: And Lord, if we can't do it to the weakest 712 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 8: and the poorest amongst us, Lord, who would we do 713 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 8: it to? But your word says that when we did 714 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 8: it unto them, we did it unto you Jesus. So God, 715 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 8: I pray a massive blessing over our city as they 716 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 8: get involved and they release and open their hands to 717 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 8: bless the poor and to bless the broken and see 718 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 8: them brought back. We're all a great redemption story. Lord, 719 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 8: you found us at our weakest and you brought us 720 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 8: and gave us great strength. We give you honor and glory. 721 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 8: Bless the people of Indianapolis. Bless the businesses of Indianapolis, 722 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 8: a mighty blessing. We asked that you would poured out 723 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 8: on everything they touch in the name of Jesus. 724 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: Amen. 725 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: Yeah again, the phone number three one seven nine to 726 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: six one eight three three zero will post the card 727 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: up at Robin Kendall on Twitter, Mike Milido, Nathan Peter 728 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: Noew of Life Church, thank you for doing what you 729 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: do for Project Rescue and helping fight human sex trafficking. 730 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you having this man. Yeah, it's Kennell 731 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 3: The Casey Show, ninety three WIBC. 732 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 5: So there's a. 733 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: Big settlement in the Dominion Voting Systems defamation case. Newsmax 734 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: Politico reporting this amongst others at Newsmax reached a sixty 735 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: seven million dollars settlement with Dominion. 736 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: Now this was over. 737 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: The election false election claims that were made. Fox News 738 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: had that massive settlement of seven hundred and eighty seven 739 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: million dollars in twenty twenty three, and it looks like 740 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: this payment is going to be three payments twenty seven 741 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: million was paid this year, and then two twenty million 742 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: dollar payments in twenty six and twenty seven. The only 743 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: thay you gotta be careful about what you say on 744 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: the air. The other part of this is Jerry I 745 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: think there was a horrible strategy from Trump's orbit in 746 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: the wake of what was going on in twenty twenty, 747 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: by going after too much stuff and not focusing on 748 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: the thing that was at hand that everybody could see, 749 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: which is when you have mass mail in unaccountable voting 750 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: where you're just literally mailing ballots out to people and 751 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: you no idea fills them out or who returns them. That 752 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: really sets you up for potential election fraud, rather than 753 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: focusing on these voting machines that apparently they couldn't prove. 754 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when we talk about ballot harvesting, or 755 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 4: you saw the little drop boxes and people would roll 756 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 4: up and drop off two hundred, three hundred, five hundred ballots, 757 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,479 Speaker 4: that would have been great to focus on. I thought 758 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 4: this was going to be a thing. They were full 759 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 4: court press, Dominions flipping votes, dominions doing this, Dominion's doing that, 760 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 4: and it looks like Dominion took everybody to the cleaner. 761 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: They're doing very well. I mean, my pillow guy got 762 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: swallowed up in this. The attorneys are we are probably 763 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: doing very well. But again, one of the things when 764 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: you're when you and you got Rudy Juliani TV with 765 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: hair dye going down the side of his face, and 766 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: it's like, you should have focused on the thing that 767 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: everybody can get their head around, which is, hey, if 768 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: you don't control the voting process. And by control, I 769 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: mean you know who's voting. You know, it's that person 770 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 1: they show an ID, they show up to vote. 771 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 3: You know, even if it's a mail in. 772 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: There's like Indiana has a process if're gonna vote by 773 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: mail that involves your ID, et cetera. That's what some 774 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: of the normal people can understand. And when all this 775 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: stuff they were saying about dominion, it was just like, 776 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: even if it turn not to be true, just eyes, 777 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, glaze over because it's too complex and it's 778 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: doing this and it's doing that, and it's like the 779 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: average person is not going to understand that. And in 780 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: the process of focusing on these voting machines, they took 781 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: where people should have been paying attention to, which is 782 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: you've got to fix the mail in onaccountable voting in 783 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: these in these states. And look, you turn to a 784 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: more normal voting process in twenty twenty four compared to 785 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. 786 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 4: But we haven't changed the ballot harvesting. We haven't changed 787 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 4: a no voter right, Like, what have we rectified nothing? 788 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: You still need major changes in a lot of these 789 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: swing states that have not happened. 790 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 5: So when it's not a Trump like, will it still 791 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 5: work out? 792 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: All right, Let's take a break, by the way, so 793 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: we have a shorter segment of this seming. So Hammer's 794 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: going to join us at eleven fifteen. When we come back, 795 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: we'll get back into the election election changing that's being 796 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: proposed here in the state of Indiana. 797 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 3: Everybody should be very, very very upset about this. 798 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,720 Speaker 1: We'll talk about it more and about how our lawmakers 799 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: are like fires and getting bullied. It's Kenilly Casey Show 800 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: in ninety three Double DOBC