1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: My name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there with 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: a special guest in studio and a special guest on 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: the hotline. 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: Governor Mike Braun in studio with us this afternoon and 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: joining us on the hotline. Senator Jim Banks, Senator, how 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: are you, my friend? 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 3: Well, I would much rather be there in the studio 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: with all of you in Indiana than here in Washington, DC. 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: I'm told regularly that Governor Braun, my predecessor, the former Senator, 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 3: is much happier in Indiana than he was in Washington. 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 3: So ZAA take a page from that book, and I 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: wish I was there with all of you instead of here. 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 4: I will second that motion, Senator. 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: Let's get into it here. For whatever reason, the political 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 2: left is trying to make Pete Hegseeth the boogeyman, the 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: Secretary of War, Pete Hegsyth some sort of boogeyman because 17 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: he wants to blow up Venezuelan drug dealers. I'm no 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: political strategists, but this doesn't seem like a smart idea 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: from the political left. What say you? 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 3: Seventy one percent of Americans support striking these drug boats 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 3: and stopping narco terrorists from flooding poison into the country 22 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: before it gets here. And I bet there are more 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: Hoosiers than that, even more than seventy one percent of 24 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 3: Hoosiers who are common sense people who understand that President 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: Trump is stopping it from coming here to begin with. 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 3: And Secretary of War Hesat, who was just in Fort 27 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: Wayne with us a couple weeks ago, is executing the 28 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: President's plans to take out these drug boats before they 29 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 3: get here. So I have no sympathy for these narco terrorists. 30 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: I mean a lot of chatter on Capitol Hill today 31 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: about these videos from September one or September two, the 32 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: drug boat and the couple of the couple of terrorists 33 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 3: who are hanging from the boat. I say, take them out, 34 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: stop them from stop them from poisoning Americans. President Trump 35 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: gets that the American people support him, and Pete hegg 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: Set too, I think is doing a great job, has 37 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: done nothing wrong, so I back him one hundred percent. 38 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: I keep on hearing things like words like war crimes 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: from Hakeem Jefferies, the you know, the leader of the 40 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: House on the Democratic side, like we're not at war 41 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: with these people, We're just saying, you know, we're going 42 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: to take you out. If you were trying to import 43 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: feanhol that's going to kill one hundred thousand Americans a year. 44 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: Well, we talked about the war on drugs for how 45 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: Man forty years, right, I mean, all all of my life, 46 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: we have had the war on drugs. And President Trump 47 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: is the first president of my lifetime who's taken that 48 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: war seriously and taking out these drug votes and telling 49 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 3: the drug cartels you are you are our enemy, and 50 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 3: we will kill you before you kill Americans. So he 51 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: had the President has Article two powers to protect the 52 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: homeland of the United States of Americas. So he's well 53 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: within his constitutional rights. The authorizations are already there for 54 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: him to do what he's doing. We've seen for way 55 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: too long, so many Hoosiers affected by drug overdoses. Uh 56 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: just uh uh. The last year the Biden administration, a 57 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: couple couple thousand or more drug overdoses in Indiana because of 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: these this poison flooding into our country. President Trump is 59 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: that is the first one who's finally doing something about it. 60 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: So I can't. I mean, you're you're picking you guys 61 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: are picking up on something here though. That's that I'm sure, 62 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: Governor Browns, he gets back to the land of common 63 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: sense in Indiana. Uh, it doesn't miss this at all. 64 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: But these Democrats are are wacky and crazy. I mean 65 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: they they they're they're siding with the narco terrorists over 66 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: over the American people. And that that's not you know, 67 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: you're talking about politics. This is a life and death matter. 68 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: It's not politic. It's not political, but it's talking about 69 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: the politics of it. The Democrats are on the wrong 70 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: side of this issue, and it's going to come back 71 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: to haunt them on election day. 72 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: And Governor to piggyback off of what Senator Banks is 73 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: talking about. I bet when you go around the state 74 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: and you're talking about the drug epidemic that has been 75 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: running rampant over the last ten plus years in this country. 76 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: When so many families who have lost a loved one 77 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: to a fentanyl overdose see the Department of War trying 78 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: to proactively eliminate people bringing this poison to their country, 79 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: I feel like they are excited for this. They're finally 80 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: being heard by the government. Does that make sense. 81 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 4: I finally have a voice at the highest place in 82 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 4: the country that's doing something about it. As Jim said, 83 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 4: seventy one percent in Indiana. That's that classic eighty twenty 84 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 4: and the other side of the aisle seems to always 85 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 4: be picking that twenty percent. Where this should be something 86 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 4: that we don't equivocate at all about. And when you're 87 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 4: talking about one hundred thousand lives each year at stake, 88 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 4: take the percentage of Hoosiers that are involved in that too. 89 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: Speaking with Senator Jim Banks here on the Hammer and 90 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: Nigel Show, Governor Mike Brown also in studio with US Senator, 91 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: let's pivot to the vetting process for some of these refugees, 92 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 2: the Afghan vetting process. This is on the heels of 93 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 2: the DC shooting. Now, if you go back a couple 94 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: of years, you'll remember there was a little controversy at 95 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: Camp Adderbury here in Indy about who was coming in 96 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: Afghan refugees. I fought with a local TV station about this. 97 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: I'm curious as to your perspective on what's happening a 98 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: couple of years removed and what's happening at a national level. 99 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 3: Well, this is one of those cases where we predicted this. 100 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: I served in Afghanistan back in August of twenty twenty one, 101 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 3: when Biden and General Milly and Lloyd Austin, all these 102 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: jokers in that administration that botched the withdrawal and all 103 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 3: of that happened. And then all those planeloads of Afghan 104 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 3: nationals they brought to the United States who were largely unvetted. 105 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: We knew at that point, TAK one hundred and ninety 106 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: thousand of them, most of them were largely unvetted. We 107 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: knew at that point that they were bringing terrorists to 108 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 3: the United States of America. And then the last week 109 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 3: you've had three incidents, the first one of course being 110 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: very sad, and the terrorist attack in Washington, d C. 111 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: And then you've had two more of these Afghan nationals 112 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: who were brought in under Biden who have been arrested. 113 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 3: This is a real problem, and what we know is 114 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 3: probably going to be true is that as the President 115 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: and the administration turned their sites to fully vetting all 116 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: of those who came here, they're going to find a 117 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: lot more ties to terrorists. This last one that was 118 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: arrested had ties to isis K, which is the worst 119 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: of the worst of terrorism. Let me say this, I 120 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: brag about this all the time, and I want to 121 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: thank Governor Broun on this program. Governor Braun was one 122 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 3: of the first governors in the country, might have been 123 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: the very first one. And one of the very first 124 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: things that he did when he went into the governor's 125 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 3: office was to sign an executive order that instructed the 126 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: state police and the State of Indiana to support President 127 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: Trump and the Trump administration and the mass deportation efforts 128 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: to get illegal criminals off of our streets. That's different 129 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: than the unvetted Afghan nationals, but that shows you that 130 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 3: we have a governor and our state who's serious about 131 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: law and order, that's serious about the illegal immigration crisis, 132 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: and stands with the Trump administration what they're trying to 133 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: do on this entire front. Governor, I want to thank 134 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: you for that type of leadership. 135 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 4: Thank you, jam And you know, when I decided not 136 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 4: to run for a second term for Senate, I remember 137 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 4: the conversation you and I had, and I always felt 138 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 4: you were going to fill that spot up. And you've 139 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 4: been true blue to that. You've been there back in 140 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 4: the president and for me here as a governor where 141 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 4: the states are going to have to rally behind America 142 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 4: First and common sense stuff. It makes me feel really good. 143 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 4: We got someone like you. It's carrying the torch out there. 144 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 4: Keep doing it. On redistricting, you've been a fan of it, 145 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 4: as our seven congressional officeholders have. We're working on that. 146 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 4: That's another thing. If we don't get that done, that 147 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 4: playing field has been so uneven. You've been a proponent 148 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 4: for that. Thanks for your support of that vocally. 149 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: Senator Jim Banks, your response to the redistricting conversation happening 150 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: here in Indiana. The Governor and I and Knives just 151 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: had a long conversation about what's happening here with the 152 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 2: Indiana State House. There's a lot of Republicans, especially in 153 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: the Indiana Senate, that are a little wishy washy, a 154 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: little unsure about changing of the congressional maps. As somebody 155 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: that's representing Indiana and Washington d C. Your thoughts on 156 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 2: the whole concept, the whole conversation of changing the map. 157 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad Governor Broann called the special session. I'm 158 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: glad that the House, the State House is likely to 159 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 3: pass this forward tomorrow on third reading and pass it 160 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: over the Senate. And I've said all along that the 161 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: Senate should just vote on it. I think when they 162 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 3: vote on it, they're going to You're going to see 163 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: senators who maybe have been you know, that haven't been 164 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: public about their stances. They're going to vote for it 165 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: because that's what their voters want them to do. So 166 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: just vote on it. Just be transparent about it, don't 167 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: don't don't sweep it under the rug. Just have a 168 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 3: vote on it. Make it public so all the senators 169 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: cast their vote and their constituents know where they stand 170 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: on it. I mean, at the end of the day, 171 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: we know that the Democrats cheated and manipulated the data 172 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: from the last census. When Joe Biden came to and 173 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 3: took over the White House, they took the census data 174 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: from the twenty twenty census and they and they use 175 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: that that they misused that data to create more Democrat 176 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: seats and Democrat states and take seats away from We 177 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: know that Florida and Texas would have more Republican district 178 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: than what they do because of how they manipulated this data. 179 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: They counted illegals in the census data and used that 180 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: to how they how they they drew some of these districts. 181 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: So then you have states like California, Illinois threatening to 182 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: do it, other other Democrat states who are doing this 183 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 3: mid cycle redistricting. But I think I think the governor 184 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 3: and I agree on this, that that the way, the 185 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: way that they manipulated that data and and what how 186 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: the Democrats have have managed this process. Uh. There there's 187 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 3: a good reason for Indiana's nine votes in Congress to 188 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 3: mean even more, uh, for to go to do this 189 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: mid mid cycle redistricting. There's a there's a there's a logic, 190 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: there's a case. There's a case here to be made, 191 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 3: and I'm glad that the State House is moving forward 192 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: on it. 193 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: Senator, last thing here before we'll let you go, have 194 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: you been talking any trash to the Vice president about 195 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: this i U Ohio State football game coming up this weekend? 196 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: You better believe it. Believe that I was thought he 197 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: can playing that. The last time he was in Indianapolis 198 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 3: was whenever whenever there was a was the Rose Bowl 199 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: in the mid two thousands when he drove over from 200 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: Columbus and Ohio State got thumped by somebody I forget 201 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: who it was. So he doesn't have fond memories of 202 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 3: Ohio State playing in Indianapolis and in Bowl games. So 203 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: let's let's make it another miserable for the Ohio state 204 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 3: guys on Saturday. I feel pretty good about it. I'm excited. Man. 205 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: It's a big weekend here in Central Indie. Some of 206 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 2: their Jim Banks. We appreciate the time. Thank you so much, 207 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: and we'll talk again soon. 208 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 3: Have a good day.