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Speaker 1: So I mentioned before how President Trump went on sixty minutes,

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Speaker 1: the story here is that sixty minutes is now under

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Speaker 1: the control of Barry Weiss, and maybe one has to

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Speaker 1: give it a chance. Maybe you have to give them

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Speaker 1: an opportunity. I don't say no to that. I made

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Speaker 1: an appointment for a haircut. It's just proof of what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be

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Speaker 1: with you. I made an appointment to get a haircut,

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Speaker 1: and I had tried years ago. I tried this place

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Speaker 1: and I was taking my youngest We're gonna get haircuts together.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe at the.

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Speaker 1: Time he was eight, maybe so long time ago, maybe nine.

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Speaker 1: And we get there and we're supposed to do it together,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna take me first. Okay, all right, it'll

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Speaker 1: And they do the thing like that, they kind of

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm sorry, what do you mean get back

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Speaker 1: I swear to the true story. I was like, goodbye,

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Speaker 1: we could learn this together. And then they just left.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, sometimes you gotta start all back over.

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Speaker 1: try something else. So I'm like, it's been eight years.

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Speaker 1: because I remember there were emails and I was actually

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Speaker 1: and why would I come back? The time heals all wounds.

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Speaker 1: so I can appreciate that uncertain things like all right,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'll give it another try. But giving sixty minutes

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Speaker 1: you is kind of nutty. But since it's Barry Weiss,

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, Okay, I can understand it. ABC. I'll

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Speaker 1: never understand why any Republican does an interview with George Stephanopoulos.

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Speaker 1: Is is beyond comprehension. It is insane, ridiculous, crazy talk

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Speaker 1: that they would do this. But there's the president. He

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Speaker 1: is on sixty minutes, and it gets into every conversation,

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Speaker 1: includingly including well it's not even a word, Tony, including

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Speaker 1: Nicholas Maduro and now.

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Speaker 3: The USS Gerald Ford that is the world's largest aircraft

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Speaker 3: carrier on the way to the Caribbean. Are we going

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Speaker 3: to war against Venezuela?

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Speaker 2: I got it.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. But they've been treating us very badly,

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Speaker 4: not only on drugs. They've dubbed hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 4: They emptied their prisons into country. They also, if you

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Speaker 4: insane asylism into the United States of America because Joe

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Speaker 4: Biden was the worst president in the history of our country.

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Speaker 3: But I just want to talk about the scale of

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Speaker 3: as sixty minutes, as using a blowtorch to cook an egg.

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Speaker 1: Is this about stopping thanks? Look?

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Speaker 3: Is it about let me ask you though, is it

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Speaker 1: Before anything else. I have not heard anybody use the

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Speaker 1: expression it's like utilizing a blowtorch to cook an egg.

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Speaker 1: But I am reminded, and I posted the interview I

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Speaker 1: I have heard this before. I have absolutely heard something

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Speaker 1: idea of deception, right, if your weak looks strong, if

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Speaker 1: want to use it, but we do have it. Reminding

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Speaker 1: the enemy a blowtorch to cook an egg, I think

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The real issue here is whether or not the president

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Speaker 1: to which I have no issue. But if it's a war,

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Speaker 1: well then you got to declare it. And that's the

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Speaker 1: role of Congress, and the president should know that he

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Speaker 1: cannot usurp Congress in this way. No member of Congress,

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Speaker 1: House or Senatate's going to take it. This is their job.

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Speaker 1: You're not taking their job from them. They'd rather fight you.

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Speaker 1: They don't really care what you scream. It was like

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he gets everything. And this starts with any

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Speaker 4: No, this is about many things. This is a country

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Speaker 4: To me, that would be almost number one, because we

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Speaker 2: We have a closed border right now.

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Speaker 4: You probably noticed that for five months in a row,

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Speaker 3: On Venezuela in particular. Are Maduro's days as president numbers?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think so you And this issue of potential

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Speaker 4: I don't tell you that. I mean, I'm not saying

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Speaker 4: inclined to say that I would do that. But because

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Speaker 4: I'm going to strike, let's.

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Speaker 3: Talk about Israel.

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Speaker 1: Right, He's completely right, you don't talk to a report

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Speaker 1: back to lawsuits again? But our Maduro's day is numbered? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Trump doing is something different. Then they got into the

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Speaker 1: conversation about nuclear testing.

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Speaker 3: Less than an hour before your meeting with President she

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Speaker 4: What did you mean, Well, we have more nuclear weapons

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Speaker 4: both President Putin and Presidency. We have enough nuclear weapons

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Speaker 2: They have some, they have quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: Well, because you have to see how they work. You know,

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Speaker 4: And the reason I'm saying testing is because Russia announced

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Speaker 4: We're the only country that doesn't test, and I want

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Speaker 1: It must be hard for reporters like uh Nora O'Donnell

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Speaker 1: I think for a lot of people when they heard this,

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 1: Now? We might not test it, you know in the

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Speaker 1: far safer, more controlled atmosphere. But of course this idea,

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Speaker 1: doing that? You absolutely fearful child there. I am on

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Speaker 1: We need to be adults here. The Russians, the North Koreans,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna hit you so hard your grandchildren are gonna

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Speaker 1: be dizzy. That's how that one's gonna go. They don't

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Speaker 1: understand what it is to have a force, They don't

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Speaker 1: understand what strength is. They believe that somehow you can

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Speaker 1: out nice these people. This is the problem with liberalism.

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Speaker 1: You cannot out nice the Islamist, you cannot out nice

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Speaker 1: the communist. And who is it that we're dealing with

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Speaker 1: all across America, creating thus issues. The case rested that

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Speaker 1: Red Green alliance that we've talked so much about. As

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Speaker 1: long as they can do away with Western civilization, they

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Speaker 1: I assume the communists will lose because the people on

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Speaker 1: and these pathetic losers who have infiltrated all of our universities.

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Speaker 1: They can't actually take up weapons and fight. They have

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Speaker 1: to rely on the decency of capitalists and Christians to

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Speaker 1: going to kill you and your daughters. Oh no, No,

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Speaker 1: it's not because I'm a bigot. Shut that face, whoever

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Speaker 1: it is, it's saying out there those absolute tools. No,

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Speaker 1: I've got history on my side, and I didn't have

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Speaker 1: do was go back to last week President Trump now

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Speaker 1: saying that hey, and the slaughter of Christians Nigeria or

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Speaker 1: a tucker. Oh, I didn't mean to bring up Tucker

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Speaker 1: Carls and he's.

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Speaker 2: Like, huh.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. Trump can say this about Nigeria and no one

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Speaker 1: thinks he's attacking black people. But when we say it

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Speaker 1: about Israel, holy cow, is he a dopey guy. That's

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Speaker 1: just dopey. Israel didn't go about just attacking Palestinians. The

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Speaker 1: Israelis were attacked and have been attacked and continue to

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Speaker 1: be attacked, and yes by Palestinians. This is Christians under

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Speaker 1: attack by an Islamist group Bokaharram, and no one's doing

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Speaker 1: anything about it. The Islamists are the issue in both cases.

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Speaker 1: Tucker doesn't know that. Of course, Tucker knows that. But

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Speaker 1: when you're a Sophist and this is what you too,

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Speaker 1: Tucker knows and Canvas knows. They all know. Just don't

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Speaker 1: care because I don't know. I don't know if they

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Speaker 1: whether they believe it or not. I simply am going

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Speaker 1: to expose their madness and move.

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Speaker 2: On with my day.

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Speaker 1: But it is it is clear that of course you've

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Speaker 1: got a test weaponry and the clutching of pearls is

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Speaker 1: just precious.

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Speaker 3: Are you saying that after more than thirty years, the

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Speaker 3: United States is going to start detonating nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying that we're going to test nuclear weapons like

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Speaker 4: other countries.

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Speaker 3: Do you The only country that's testing nuclear weapons is

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Speaker 3: North Korea.

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Speaker 4: I know Russia's testing nuclear weapon My understanding, jis.

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Speaker 2: Testing them too. You just don't know about it. That

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Speaker 2: would be certainly very newsworthy.

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Speaker 3: MI understanding is what Russia did recently was test essentially

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Speaker 3: the delivery systems for nuclear weapons, essentially missiles, which we

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Speaker 3: can do that, but not with nuclear.

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Speaker 4: Russia testing in China's testing, but they don't talk about it.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're the open society, We're different. We talk

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 4: We have to talk about it because otherwise you people

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Speaker 4: are going to report they don't have reporters, they're going

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Speaker 4: to be writing about it.

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Speaker 2: We do.

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Speaker 1: I'm still not sure why President Trump did it, but man,

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Speaker 1: that guy will talk to anyone anywhere, at any times.

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Speaker 1: It is impressive and it's what keeps Americans supporting him.

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Speaker 1: It really does. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.