Speaker 1: Why from dall Hertbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's
Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.
Speaker 2: Yes, Jake Tapper, the president's life is going to get
Speaker 2: protected more than your life. Now, you'll note that I
Speaker 2: didn't say that his life means more than yours. Right
Speaker 2: for a life to mean more than another would be
Speaker 2: very very personal as a concept, and I would never
Speaker 2: say that to your family, your life doesn't mean more
Speaker 2: than now of the president of the United States. I
Speaker 2: certainly believe in a night shouldn't say that. I know
Speaker 2: to be fact that my life matters more to my
Speaker 2: wife than the president's life.
Speaker 3: I get that she gets that.
Speaker 2: I'm thrilled by that, actually, But to the Secret Service,
Speaker 2: your life and the media's life, while important, isn't their job.
Speaker 3: Isn't their focus?
Speaker 2: And when there is a threat of assassination against the
Speaker 2: President of the United States, they might make moves that
Speaker 2: they don't tell you about. You put in harm's way,
Speaker 2: but not the president. You want to talk about living
Speaker 2: in the real world, Jake, or do you want to
Speaker 2: pretend that somehow you're special? Tony Katz, Tony kats today,
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Speaker 3: The story is ugly.
Speaker 2: That that whole conversation that was had when President Trump
Speaker 2: was in anchor in Turkey for the NATO summit, all
Speaker 2: those questions from the New York Times reporters about Air
Speaker 2: Force one, where we asked the question here we watched
Speaker 2: it happen in real time, and I asked what you
Speaker 2: would have been asking, are you trying to get him killed?
Speaker 2: Because that's how it looked. They were absolutely proactively trying
Speaker 2: to get him killed. Oh, there's something wrong with Air
Speaker 2: Force one. Ooh, there's an issue with Air Force one. Hey,
Speaker 2: enemies of Trump, there's a problem with his plane. Go
Speaker 2: at it. That's what it sounded like from two different
Speaker 2: New York Times reporters. And then we learn that you
Speaker 2: have the Secretary of the Air Force who no longer
Speaker 2: can get access to classified information because the former Secretary
Speaker 2: of the Air Force, that's Frank Kendall, may have leaked
Speaker 2: information to the New York Times. This is the second
Speaker 2: say of Air Force under the Biden administration, No more
Speaker 2: classified info for you, no more stuff for you.
Speaker 3: You leaked.
Speaker 2: See, it's not enough. Leakers have to go to jail.
Speaker 2: Leakers have to go to jail immediately. And I don't
Speaker 2: know what the hell we're waiting for. So maybe that's
Speaker 2: how they knew, and that's why they were asking. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: the president is in Turkey and there's a threat. According
Speaker 2: to the reporting. This was the Washington Post that had
Speaker 2: the first reporting. President Trump was seen boarding Air Force
Speaker 2: one publicly publicly got on the plane. But what happened
Speaker 2: next was he walked through the plane into a catering truck,
Speaker 2: you know those they brought the food and they kind
Speaker 2: of like they could be elevated up and they are
Speaker 2: usually I like, you enter this door and that it's
Speaker 2: usually on the other side of the are where the
Speaker 2: galley is for those of.
Speaker 3: Us who fly commercial like morons.
Speaker 2: He walked right through, got on that truck, where he
Speaker 2: was then transported to another plane that was to an
Speaker 2: Air Force C thirty two, a military aircraft, and they
Speaker 2: hid Trump's location for several hours because strikes were going
Speaker 2: on against Iran, and there was a concern that they may.
Speaker 3: Target Air Force One.
Speaker 2: Now, before we get deeper into the story, let us
Speaker 2: be clear that anybody who thought it was okay for
Speaker 2: him to ride this new Air Force one that was
Speaker 2: donated by the qataris which we never should have accepted.
Speaker 2: His argument is, they want to give me a four
Speaker 2: hundred million dollar plane. I'm taking a four hundred million
Speaker 2: dollar plane. I've seen people give up more for free fries.
Speaker 2: We never, never, ever should have taken that plane. But
Speaker 2: that plane allegedly didn't have all of the safety capabilities
Speaker 2: that a plane like that is supposed to have, countermeasures,
Speaker 2: a whole host of things. It's got to be a
Speaker 2: well armed thing. Why anybody was allowed to fly it
Speaker 2: is beyond me.
Speaker 3: We will leave that to the side.
Speaker 2: That you and I, regardless of our politics, could agree
Speaker 2: wholeheartedly that a plane that isn't prepared to protect the
Speaker 2: president of the United States cannot be flown, can't be
Speaker 2: We should also be clear that if there's a thread
Speaker 2: against the president of the United States, and I don't
Speaker 2: care who the president of the United States.
Speaker 3: Is, we make moves to protect the president. In this case,
Speaker 3: he was.
Speaker 2: Moved off of Air Force one onto the Air Force
Speaker 2: C thirty two, a which with him on it would
Speaker 2: be the new Air Force one. But that's call signals,
Speaker 2: and let's just keep it straight for now. The plane
Speaker 2: that took off didn't have the President on it, even
Speaker 2: though they thought he was on it had the Press
Speaker 2: Corps on it.
Speaker 3: The Press Corps was on this plane, and.
Speaker 2: That seems to have a whole bunch of people outraged.
Speaker 3: One of those people is Jake Tapper, he writes.
Speaker 2: So the US Secret Service thought the threat against the
Speaker 2: President was strong enough to surreptitiously.
Speaker 3: Remove him, surreptitiously remove him from Air.
Speaker 2: Force one, and then proceeded to let the plane full
Speaker 2: of White House staffers and reporters take off and fly
Speaker 2: back to the United States. If the question is is
Speaker 2: Jake Tapper stupid?
Speaker 3: The answer is yes.
Speaker 2: We live in the real world in his fantasy world,
Speaker 2: and I'm not about to pretend that Jake Tapper is
Speaker 2: on my level.
Speaker 3: He's not.
Speaker 2: For personal reasons, I have a disdain of Jake Tapper
Speaker 2: helping to build a pylon against me on social media.
Speaker 2: That didn't mean anything, but it showed what cheap of
Speaker 2: a human being he is how cheap of a human
Speaker 2: being he is?
Speaker 3: What cheap human being he is?
Speaker 2: Then, of course, Jake Tapper showed by his politics that
Speaker 2: outside of being able to note that Lewis Farricott is
Speaker 2: a Jew hating bigot, he has done nothing but celebrate
Speaker 2: progressivism and engage in absolute failures as a journalist, being
Speaker 2: highlighted by writing a book saying, oh my gosh, can
Speaker 2: you believe Joe Biden didn't have all his mental faculties?
Speaker 2: He wasn't really up to the task. There was a
Speaker 2: question about his mental acuity. I, for one, am shocked
Speaker 2: he profited off a book where he and his at
Speaker 2: work clearly, in my view, lied to the American people repeatedly,
Speaker 2: if not daily, about Joe Biden's condition, and then he profited.
Speaker 3: I think he's a bad person.
Speaker 2: I think he is like all these people become like
Speaker 2: Scott Pelly became over at CBS, so believers in their
Speaker 2: own hype.
Speaker 3: I must be important. I'm on CNN.
Speaker 2: You're not important. Somebody else will be on CNN and
Speaker 2: they won't be important either. What's wrong with you? Never
Speaker 2: believe your own hype? What are you nuts? You know
Speaker 2: who believed their own hype.
Speaker 3: Shelley Long, who's Shelley Long? Correct?
Speaker 2: You know who believe their own hype?
Speaker 3: David Caruso, Who's David Caruso? Correct?
Speaker 2: History has got examples, you just don't remember them. Jake
Speaker 2: Tapper can't believe that this plane with staffers and with journalists.
Speaker 3: Was allowed to fly under threat. We live in the
Speaker 3: real world.
Speaker 2: We don't live as children, even though progressives often live
Speaker 2: that way.
Speaker 3: Everything is a danger.
Speaker 2: And the story here is that Iran is a danger,
Speaker 2: and Iran should be dealt with. Marjorie Taylor Green can't
Speaker 2: do the job. These pseudo intellectuals can't do the job.
Speaker 2: The leftists can't do the job. And I want the
Speaker 2: president to do the job again, just the threat that's
Speaker 2: threatening him and threatening all of us not to play
Speaker 2: this game of well, we'll wait them out. Oh now, Iran.
Speaker 3: Won't do any negotiating whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Okay, Fine, we'll just keep the bombings going, small bombings,
Speaker 2: big bombings. We'll wait three days, we'll do another bombing,
Speaker 2: and of course we'll keep the e gnomic sanctions on
Speaker 2: and of course will continue to make things rougher and
Speaker 2: rougher and rougher. The Iranians believe that they can wait
Speaker 2: this out to the midterms and get him to lose
Speaker 2: the midterms and go after him and destroy him. Why
Speaker 2: would they want to destroy him, because they want to
Speaker 2: destroy anybody who might destroy them. It's only a reason
Speaker 2: to get rid of the regime and not put up
Speaker 2: with this nonsense. But Jake Tapper seems to miss the
Speaker 2: moment that it is the regime that tried to kill
Speaker 2: our president. Doesn't matter who the president is, because if
Speaker 2: it does, that's the sign of somebody who isn't actually
Speaker 2: a good American. That's the sign of a partisan scumbag
Speaker 2: Democrat or Republican. You come at our president, we come
Speaker 2: at you, and we come at you at one thousandfold.
Speaker 2: If this is not our philosophy, we really are a
Speaker 2: broken nation.
Speaker 3: The job of the Secret Service.
Speaker 2: Is to protect to protectee, and that's the President of
Speaker 2: the United States.
Speaker 3: That's the job.
Speaker 2: And anybody who is flying with, traveling with, or maneuvering
Speaker 2: with the President understands that they are an afterthought.
Speaker 3: Anybody who doesn't understand this needs to understand this.
Speaker 2: If the President were to be killed and you got
Speaker 2: killed in the fifty first paragraph of the story, it
Speaker 2: would read also killed that guy. You understand that, right.
Speaker 2: Every member of the Press corpt doesn't understand this. Every
Speaker 2: member of the White House staff doesn't understand this. I
Speaker 2: didn't say that you should be canon fodder. I didn't
Speaker 2: say violence should come upon you. I am saying that
Speaker 2: the job of the Secret Service is to protect the
Speaker 2: President of the United States. So you right. So the
Speaker 2: US Secret Service thought the threat against the President was
Speaker 2: strong enough to serve titiously remove him from Air Force
Speaker 2: one and then proceeded to let the plane full of
Speaker 2: White House staffers and reporters take.
Speaker 3: Off and fly back to the US.
Speaker 2: And the answer, Jake Tapper, you child, is yes, that's
Speaker 2: exactly what happened, because we live in the real world.
Speaker 2: The problem, Jake, you child, is that you think the
Speaker 2: story here is about Trump and the Secret Service, and
Speaker 2: every rational person understands it's about the Islamists and the
Speaker 2: Islamic regime in Iran. Maybe this is where you're having
Speaker 2: the great break because you believe yourself important. Not only yourself,
Speaker 2: you believe that journalists are the most important thing. I
Speaker 2: will tell you that they're not the most important thing,
Speaker 2: mainly because the vast majority of them haven't acted as
Speaker 2: journalists in decades.
Speaker 3: I know how that upsets you.
Speaker 2: Obviously, we now have a couple of moments here where
Speaker 2: I've shown where the truth really upsets you. Nobody wants
Speaker 2: these people to be hurt. Nobody wants these people to
Speaker 2: be harmed. I think the way to stop the harm
Speaker 2: where the opportunity for harm is to get rid of
Speaker 2: the Islamist regime and don't allow them in the country.
Speaker 2: And don't allow Islamists who have pledged themselves to undo
Speaker 2: the United States of America, to undo Western civilization. Don't
Speaker 2: allow these people in the country, don't allow them power,
Speaker 2: don't allow them to get.
Speaker 3: Office, don't vote for them. Push them out.
Speaker 2: There an obvious answer, And when I give that answer,
Speaker 2: I get told Domina islamophobe or some other line of crap.
Speaker 2: I understand what's happening around me. I am playing in
Speaker 2: the real politique, not you, Jake. The choice was the
Speaker 2: president or the journalist, and they chose to protect the president.
Speaker 2: That was the right choice. As upsetting as it may
Speaker 2: be for you, but no one should give a damn
Speaker 2: if you're upset, what were the options? Let everybody know
Speaker 2: that the president wasn't on the plane, announced that the
Speaker 2: president was already back and let the press fly back later.
Speaker 2: Which member of the press would have kept it quiet. Hey,
Speaker 2: there's a real threat against the president. We had to
Speaker 2: put him on another plane. You show me every member
Speaker 2: of the press who would have said, Hey, we're not
Speaker 2: going to say a word. We got to make sure
Speaker 2: the president's safe. They would have tweeted, they would have posted,
Speaker 2: they would have got on to their substacks, all of it.
Speaker 2: And you know it, Jake, because not a one of
Speaker 2: them would say, wait a second, we got to make
Speaker 2: sure he's okay and then we can report the story. Nope,
Speaker 2: they would all say, I'm reporting the story because I'm
Speaker 2: a journalist and if I can do some harm.
Speaker 3: Oh oop, see you think I'm making that up.
Speaker 2: I think I'm doing a pretty damn good rendition and
Speaker 2: impersonation of a lot of the people in your press corps.
Speaker 2: And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But the Secret Service wasn't.
Speaker 2: The job is to protect the president and we should
Speaker 2: all be focused on the threat, which is the Eranium
Speaker 2: Islamic Islamist regime.
Speaker 3: That's the threat. That's who we should be dealing with.
Speaker 2: You want to get angry at the Secret Service or
Speaker 2: Trump for protecting him. Jake Tapper, screw you, you unbelievable child.
Speaker 2: I swear to you, I'm challenging my inner Philip Seymour
Speaker 2: Hoffman when I say that from Charlie Wilson's War.
Speaker 3: You child, you're not a man for this world.
Speaker 2: You're not capable of dealing with the threats or even
Speaker 2: understanding the threats. You're so internalizing your emotion and you're
Speaker 2: angst You can't accept that the real world requires real choices.
Speaker 2: There are no solutions, as Thomas Sowell explains, just trade offs.
Speaker 2: And you may not like the trade off as sure
Speaker 2: as I wouldn't like the trade off if it was me.
Speaker 3: But I walked in wide eyed, and I knew that
Speaker 3: was the case.
Speaker 2: Seems that the journalist Jake Tapper forgot what the Secret
Speaker 2: Service does.
Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today the.
Speaker 4: Next president, because remember we have right now thousands of
Speaker 4: factories being built. They're being built and they'll be opening
Speaker 4: over the next year, year and a half, and whoever
Speaker 4: the next president is, they'll be standing up taking credit
Speaker 4: for what I accomplished. So people like you will remember
Speaker 4: We have more auto plans being built right now than
Speaker 4: in the heyday of the automobile.
Speaker 3: We hadn't had an auto plan built.
Speaker 4: In forty years. Forty years, but many many years we
Speaker 4: hadn't had one auto plan.
Speaker 3: Now we haven't built for.
Speaker 4: Numbers during the heyday, they couldn't compete with these numbers.
Speaker 4: Many other plans too, they're all coming in. And that's
Speaker 4: because of a few things. It's because of the cut
Speaker 4: in taxes, but it's really because of tariffs. If you
Speaker 4: want to sell automobiles, you have to build the automobile
Speaker 4: in America.
Speaker 2: If you want to build, if you want to sell automobiles,
Speaker 2: you have to build them in America. I don't have
Speaker 2: an issue with building automobiles in America, mister President. I'm
Speaker 2: down with building automobiles in America. I'm downing more people
Speaker 2: building autobiles in America. But don't ask me to love
Speaker 2: on tariffs. Don't ask me to love on tariffs when
Speaker 2: they've also created issues. Tony Katz Tony Kats today an
Speaker 2: absolute pleasure. That was the President on with Wayne Allen Root.
Speaker 2: I've got the story. What's his name, Kevin O'Leary, fish tank,
Speaker 2: what's a shark tank and fish tank. I'll be getting
Speaker 2: emails and he is saying, you know, if it wasn't
Speaker 2: for AI, economically, the country would be schoo It is
Speaker 2: the AI investments that are keeping the tariff issues at bay.
Speaker 2: That's why the tariffs haven't been more destructive. I am
Speaker 2: absolutely a believer in this. The President's argument is the
Speaker 2: tariffs force people to bring things here and look what
Speaker 2: we're building. But my argument has been where are the dollars?
Speaker 3: Where are the dollars that show this?
Speaker 2: When do we see the building of of more plants,
Speaker 2: of more everything and mass, and not just in automotive.
Speaker 2: This is what people want to see, see the results
Speaker 2: of the tariff stall. I'll be okay, keep it here.
Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz.
Speaker 2: Bit of good news in a sea of total insanity.
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz. Today, Robert Gilman, military veteran, has
Speaker 2: been detained or was detained by Russia in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: convicted of beating a police officer after being taken off
Speaker 2: a train for causing a disturbance, and then got convicted
Speaker 2: of attacking a prisoner inspector during a cel check, beating
Speaker 2: an investigator and an assault guard. His sentence was extended
Speaker 2: to last ten years after he was found guilty. He
Speaker 2: has been released and for the last forty seven days
Speaker 2: hasn't been in what is being described reported by Newsmax
Speaker 2: as a disassociative stupor because of the abuse of the
Speaker 2: abuse he suffered in prison. He's from Massachusetts. I there's
Speaker 2: a lot here and we're gonna learn more about him.
Speaker 2: The last time we saw somebody in this kind of
Speaker 2: shape was the guy who was released from North Korea.
Speaker 2: North Korea. Auto Wumber never regained consciousness after his return
Speaker 2: to the US, never once.
Speaker 3: It is not.
Speaker 2: It is not for us to take these things as if, oh, well,
Speaker 2: there's nothing we can do, Tony. Can you turn around
Speaker 2: and can you fight everybody the way they need to
Speaker 2: be fought? Can you really handle all of this? Let
Speaker 2: me get to that first. I'm glad this guy has
Speaker 2: been released. I hope he will.
Speaker 3: Be well.
Speaker 2: I really do. But I I shared as good news
Speaker 2: because released is better. Now Let's see what his real
Speaker 2: condition is and we can go from there. Iran believes
Speaker 2: they can wait out the president, wait out America, and
Speaker 2: they believe they control the entire situation. You have a
Speaker 2: US military helicopter that fired at the rudder of a
Speaker 2: Panama flag ship because the crew ignored warnings from personnel
Speaker 2: enforcing the naval blockade. This, according to the Wall Street Journal,
Speaker 2: Iran has said, we're not negotiating with the US anymore.
Speaker 2: We're done. We've done everything we're going to do. You're
Speaker 2: the ones who have the problem. We don't have the problem.
Speaker 2: We're just going to keep the straight closed. We're going
Speaker 2: to make your life very very difficult. Oil prices right
Speaker 2: now at eighty three dollars and five cents a barrel
Speaker 2: over eighty, the president cannot say everything's going well.
Speaker 3: Far from it.
Speaker 5: And just earlier, just earlier, when I say earlier, just yesterday,
Speaker 5: the president is out there saying that we have full
Speaker 5: control of the Strait of Hormos.
Speaker 2: We control it one hundred percent. This is the president
Speaker 2: from the oval.
Speaker 6: The only one that has control of the Strait of
Speaker 6: her moves right now is the United States Navy. We
Speaker 6: have a blockade that's been infallible.
Speaker 2: It's a steel wall, and we.
Speaker 6: Let people in that we want to let in, and
Speaker 6: those people come in and they've been coming in and
Speaker 6: they're going out. So it's actually open.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 6: We do not let them go into a run, cannot
Speaker 6: admit it into the strait to go to a run.
Speaker 6: But it's open for others. Now a little bit complex
Speaker 6: because they will on occasion drop a mind and we
Speaker 6: find the minds.
Speaker 3: You know, we've mind swept the entire straight as.
Speaker 6: You probably maybe heard, maybe you didn't hear, but we
Speaker 6: control the straight one hundred percent. Now, can they make trouble, Yeah,
Speaker 6: they can make trouble, but they're broke. They have no money,
Speaker 6: you know, Ornas broke, totally broke, and they're not paying
Speaker 6: their soldiers. They have inflation of three hundred percent of
Speaker 6: last night, I had three hundred, three hundred and nine percent.
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 6: But they've been bad for it. They say forty seven,
Speaker 6: it's actually fifty forty seven. They've been saying it for
Speaker 6: three years. But for fifty years they've been the bully
Speaker 6: of the Middle East.
Speaker 2: What they've done is terrible.
Speaker 6: They've killed hundreds of thousands of people. They've killed people,
Speaker 6: they've wounded and named people with the legs of the arms,
Speaker 6: you know, with the roadside bombers, their momb they're very
Speaker 6: proud of it and now they're paying a price.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, everybody.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, mister President. How do we control the Strait?
Speaker 2: How possibly do we control the Strait when oil prices
Speaker 2: are this high. It's a very very hard thing to
Speaker 2: put together. It's a hard thing to try and understand.
Speaker 2: And you don't have the people believing you, sir, that's
Speaker 2: the problem. They do not believe you. The Iranians have decided,
Speaker 2: this regime has decided that they can wait us out.
Speaker 2: They have decided that they can last and last and last,
Speaker 2: and that the pressure is too much and too great
Speaker 2: for the United States to bear because we won't handle
Speaker 2: high oil prices. Well, I'm not somebody who buys into
Speaker 2: that or believes that at all. I believe that the
Speaker 2: story has to be told, and the story has to
Speaker 2: be sold, and I believe that the President has not
Speaker 2: done a good job of this. I believe that the
Speaker 2: President has missed, He has missed greatly in doing so,
Speaker 2: and that has been a problem for him.
Speaker 3: But I also allow.
Speaker 2: Me to say that the idea that we would have
Speaker 2: Iran thinking somehow that they are in charge, that's just nutty.
Speaker 3: Iran wants concessions.
Speaker 2: Now, Iran is saying that we're done with any negotiation.
Speaker 2: Iran has said they want reparations, and Trump has said,
Speaker 2: you know what, that's a good idea. We want reparations
Speaker 2: for all the people you've killed and all the people
Speaker 2: you've made that all the attacks you've done, and all
Speaker 2: the damage because you pay reparendations. One could argue that
Speaker 2: what we have is a stalemate. Is that the worst
Speaker 2: thing in the world. Well, if we believe Major Mike Lyons,
Speaker 2: military analyst, the siege mentality is going to be successful
Speaker 2: or can be successful. They don't have any money. You
Speaker 2: heard President Trump talking about this, and slowly the IRGC
Speaker 2: and others will crack. That's very, very possible. That is
Speaker 2: indeed possible that they will crack. I don't think they
Speaker 2: crack without the IRGC actually having to run for their lives.
Speaker 2: And that involves troops on the ground that we've already
Speaker 2: stated quite clearly as a nation that's not happening. I've
Speaker 2: made the argument doesn't have to be our troops, but
Speaker 2: of course there have to be troops on the ground.
Speaker 2: The minue you started talking about getting the nuclear dust,
Speaker 2: you knew there were going to be.
Speaker 3: Troops on the ground. What's our move here? What's our plan?
Speaker 2: Is our plan to utilize bigger bombs, engage in different
Speaker 2: kinds of bombings, engage more population centers, engage Tehran in Toto.
Speaker 2: Maybe is it to send in a force of Saudi
Speaker 2: troops with Pakhrain troops, with Israeli troops and take some
Speaker 2: of the coastal places where they do some shipping and
Speaker 2: some bombing from and wipe it clean. Maybe is it
Speaker 2: to think that you can do this low key?
Speaker 3: Hey, we have a low key war. Never heard of
Speaker 3: a low key war.
Speaker 2: Even a siege isn't low key.
Speaker 3: We have a low key war. We're just gonna wait
Speaker 3: the mount. We're gonna wait to.
Speaker 2: Mount and wait a mount.
Speaker 7: I goa.
Speaker 2: It's no problem, they'll just be there. It's fine.
Speaker 3: Maybe the president has to measure.
Speaker 2: The objective with political realities, political realities.
Speaker 3: That he kind of set up for himself.
Speaker 2: He didn't have to do that.
Speaker 3: He in no way had to put forth that.
Speaker 2: Well, you could argue, I ran not getting a nuclear
Speaker 2: weapon was the key, But he didn't have to argue,
Speaker 2: you know, my gosh, we're gonna keep the oil prices
Speaker 2: lower than you ever seen them before. He could have
Speaker 2: argued that we have to do this in order to
Speaker 2: protect the nation for its future. And oil prices are
Speaker 2: gonna go up a little, they may go up more
Speaker 2: than a little. We're gonna handle it. We're gonna weather it,
Speaker 2: and in the end, the regime will be gone, your
Speaker 2: kids will be safer, and we'll finally have a chance
Speaker 2: for peace to the Middle East, and maybe we won't
Speaker 2: be bothered every five minutes by these weirdos. He didn't
Speaker 2: sell it right, So he's in this position. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I believe Eve that this position is the
Speaker 2: end of the world. I just don't think that this
Speaker 2: position is great because this position doesn't bring about the
Speaker 2: strength that is needed. And to do this, the President's
Speaker 2: gonna have to say, all right, here's the strength that's needed.
Speaker 2: We are going to starve these people economically. We're gonna
Speaker 2: engage in indiscriminate bombing. They won't even know where it
Speaker 2: came from, why it came, how it came. And we
Speaker 2: are going to engage with the neighbors there to put
Speaker 2: together the force to be able to do damage to
Speaker 2: the IRGC because they have to run, and that either
Speaker 2: includes those troops on the ground or it involves arming
Speaker 2: the Kurds.
Speaker 3: We'll pick one. Do one.
Speaker 2: Could the President just say, you know what, we're starving
Speaker 2: them out, it's the way it goes. Yes, he can,
Speaker 2: he can absolutely do that. He can absolutely go about
Speaker 2: that philosophy. I just don't think that philosophy so low satisfies.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's satisfied. It well, nothing satisfies the press.
Speaker 2: They want to lose. It's very weird. I don't think
Speaker 2: it satisfies the people. I don't think it shows a
Speaker 2: resolve to solving the problem, and that every moment you're
Speaker 2: not forcing them to rearm, they are rearming without having
Speaker 2: to use anything. They're building up. We don't know what
Speaker 2: access to things they still have. They were told that
Speaker 2: they're not allowed in any way, shape or form. They're
Speaker 2: not allowed to bring missiles to southern Lebanon. They brought
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five thousand missiles to Southern Lebanon.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of missiles.
Speaker 2: Lord only knows what they have in other places that
Speaker 2: they can wait us out, and the President wants to
Speaker 2: play the game. But we can wait them out. Financially,
Speaker 2: we can. You just gotta be willing to pay more
Speaker 2: for oil as you head into a midterm where if
Speaker 2: the Democrats win, they're going to impeach you. In the
Speaker 2: first fifteen minutes of Hakim Jeffries being.
Speaker 3: The speaker, what do I think.
Speaker 2: I think that you have to destroy the regime and
Speaker 2: end this already, I think I can't get the president
Speaker 2: to see that point of view. I think he might
Speaker 2: very well be thinking to himself, well, they want to
Speaker 2: wait us out, We'll wait them out. It's not the
Speaker 2: end of the world strategy. It's not, but I don't
Speaker 2: think it's one that gets you what you want. The
Speaker 2: deal is to make with those in the Middle East,
Speaker 2: and it's time to apply the press sure onto them, and.
Speaker 3: The President doesn't do that.
Speaker 2: I just chalk it up to being a very large
Speaker 2: mistake that can have some real consequences.
Speaker 3: Keep it here.
Speaker 2: It's Tony Kats today. Of course, many of you, like
Speaker 2: I took a look at what it is that Senator
Speaker 2: Rob Johnson Ron Johnson sorry from Wisconsin posted about Anthony Fauci,
Speaker 2: about COVID vaccines and about pregnancy, and if you're not bothered, well,
Speaker 2: we have to talk about what might exactly be wrong
Speaker 2: with those people who are not bothered. The data that
Speaker 2: people are tweeting, posting, screaming about not exactly accurate.
Speaker 3: Because us the data does not discuss things.
Speaker 2: As they are. It's a misread of these high numbers
Speaker 2: of miscarriages. Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, I forget if
Speaker 2: I said, hello, the miscarriage numbers are actually not the story,
Speaker 2: and I get that people want to focus on them.
Speaker 3: The story here is how once again.
Speaker 2: Dr Fauci lied kept things from us and purposefully, willfully
Speaker 2: wantonly kept us from having conversations, and how the press
Speaker 2: acted in concord. That's the story. That's what requires our
Speaker 2: discussion what it is that we're looking at when we
Speaker 2: see these text messages. I am going to go through those,
Speaker 2: read to you what's out there? And you should ask
Speaker 2: yourself what is our plan? It's likely a rand conversation
Speaker 2: all over again.
Speaker 3: What's our plan?
Speaker 2: How can anybody be okay? How could anybody be okay
Speaker 2: with just saying oh, well that was in the past,
Speaker 2: move on. It's like saying there was woke one point zero.
Speaker 2: We don't we don't talk about woke. What are you
Speaker 2: talking about? Forget about how they burned down city blocks? Nah,
Speaker 2: forget how they lied about COVID to force people into things. No,
Speaker 2: won't forget that either.
Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz, lie from dall Hertbiner and the Crossroads
Speaker 1: of America. It's Tony Kats Today. So what we have.
Speaker 2: Our primary is Galore Minnesota, Wisconsin. Now South Carolina has
Speaker 2: the special primary going on today. This one is because
Speaker 2: of the death of Lindsay Graham. Tony Katz, Tony Katz Today,
Speaker 2: that's me. That's the name of the show. Find everything
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Speaker 2: you have Lindsay Graham dying.
Speaker 3: He was running for reelection.
Speaker 2: So first someone has to be there for the rest
Speaker 2: of the term. Term ends in January. That is the
Speaker 2: sister Darlene. She is the one who is put in
Speaker 2: for the rest of the term. She is also running
Speaker 2: to be on the ballot to replace her brother.
Speaker 3: As the candidate.
Speaker 2: That polling where you've got Darlene Graham nordone, you have
Speaker 2: Ralph Norman. You have a couple of others who are
Speaker 2: in there, Mark Sanford is in there. Nordone is leading
Speaker 2: in the polls, but not by much. Ralph Norman, not
Speaker 2: Ralph Norman. Sorry, yes, Ralph Norman. I got that right.
Speaker 2: He is coming on strong. He has had a solid.
Speaker 3: Uptick as of late. This is to be the nominee.
Speaker 2: The winner here now has to run in the general election,
Speaker 2: which takes twice in November. So you have the replacement
Speaker 2: of Lindsey Graham to finish the term. You have the
Speaker 2: special election decide which Republican is going to be on
Speaker 2: the ballot against the den Then you've got election date of
Speaker 2: every third.
Speaker 3: A lot going on. That's South Carolina.
Speaker 2: In Minnesota, you have the Senate primary with Craig and Flannagan.
Speaker 2: Flannagan is the one who wears the T shirts.
Speaker 3: Wears she discusses the fact.
Speaker 2: That trans lives matter, and the T shirt has a
Speaker 2: knife on it because she's willing to get violent to
Speaker 2: protect translves And she's the one who wears the burka,
Speaker 2: as you know, she's submitting to the Islamists of her state.
Speaker 2: She is the more progressive of the two. Angie Craig
Speaker 2: still plenty much on the left no matter which way
Speaker 2: you turn, you're gonna have a left it. It's just
Speaker 2: a question whether or not do you have somebody who's
Speaker 2: told things themselves as a Democrat or someone who believes
Speaker 2: that they are Democrats. Socialis and a democratic socialist is
Speaker 2: a communist. That's Minnesota. In Wisconsin, you have got this woman,
Speaker 2: Francesca Hung. She is what is the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 2: She's goofy. She comes across terribly. She is proof that
Speaker 2: the Democratic Socialists they don't care if you have a mind,
Speaker 2: and oh these people don't have minds. There are no
Speaker 2: minds to these people, violent, dangerous and incredibly stupid. Right,
Speaker 2: It's like it's you know, factorunk and stupid is no
Speaker 2: way to go through life.
Speaker 4: Son.
Speaker 3: This is them.
Speaker 2: This is one of their leadership doing an interview explaining
Speaker 2: where they are with jails.
Speaker 3: Oh, my daughter is assaulted and raped.
Speaker 8: Is there any agency that would seek to find her
Speaker 8: assailant and bring him to justice?
Speaker 3: Of course, yeah, of course be if not police?
Speaker 2: And where would he be if not a jail?
Speaker 9: So I guess really, I really want to avoid getting
Speaker 9: kind of caught into these hypotheticals and talk more about
Speaker 9: the reality that we're actually facing, Right, now, which is
Speaker 9: that we're spending absolutely outrageous amounts of money on police
Speaker 9: and policing and we're not spending money on things that
Speaker 9: actually make people safe.
Speaker 2: You don't know that it doesn't make people safe. And
Speaker 2: also the real world is there are people out there
Speaker 2: who do bad things.
Speaker 3: What do we do about the people doing the bad things?
Speaker 3: Right now? What do you do with this person?
Speaker 2: If the police aren't going to grab the person who will,
Speaker 2: and if there's no jail to put them in, where
Speaker 2: do you put them?
Speaker 3: You want to.
Speaker 2: Disassociate yourself from the question and from all reality to
Speaker 2: say that's not what matters. These people are violent, dangerous,
Speaker 2: and stupid. Now that can be seen as a very
Speaker 2: low rent thing to say, but I played for you
Speaker 2: where they're at. These are people who support hamas. These
Speaker 2: are people who believe that private property should be against
Speaker 2: the law. These are the people who believe in rent
Speaker 2: control as a way of stealing your property. These are
Speaker 2: people who believe in, well, we'll just solve things by
Speaker 2: taxing the ultra rich. And you say to me, Tony,
Speaker 2: they all say that, but do they really think that
Speaker 2: that is a winning.
Speaker 3: Strategy and a winning proposition?
Speaker 2: And the answer is they do all say that they
Speaker 2: do all believe that it hasn't done them an ounce
Speaker 2: of good. The people leave the places where they get
Speaker 2: over tax like they're leaving New York, and yet Francesca
Speaker 2: hung the communists there in Wisconsin.
Speaker 10: Learn Then you have some hot takes, sometimes bad takes
Speaker 10: on Twitter. And I let my feelings out into the world,
Speaker 10: and right now, as governor, what I'm most serious about
Speaker 10: are the issues that voters are telling me they want
Speaker 10: solutions for. For permanent affordability, to tax the ultra rich,
Speaker 10: to make sure we're getting corruption like he is out
Speaker 10: of politics, to make sure that we're fully funding public schools,
Speaker 10: and that we're fighting for universal childcare, and never.
Speaker 2: Mind the universal child's careen, we can get into that
Speaker 2: all day. Permanent what what was the term she used?
Speaker 10: And I let my feelings out into the world, and
Speaker 10: right now, as governor, what I'm most serious about are
Speaker 10: the issues that voters are telling me they want solutions for.
Speaker 10: For permanent affordability, to tax the ultra rich?
Speaker 3: What is permanent affordability? Hold on?
Speaker 2: We can do this together. I know we can.
Speaker 3: We're smart.
Speaker 2: Permanence of I don't think I've ever heard the terminology
Speaker 2: permanent affordability before. What in the world is permanent affordability?
Speaker 2: Hold on, let's turn to producer Landin gen Zer. Producer Landing,
Speaker 2: turn on that microphone. How are you do?
Speaker 3: Good sir?
Speaker 2: How are you? I'm glorious, Thank you so much, doing
Speaker 2: a little radio show. It's kind of cool. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: pretty cool. If I said to you permanent affordability, Producer
Speaker 2: land In, all.
Speaker 3: Of what twenty four?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's correct, twenty four years of age, Producer Landin.
Speaker 2: When you hear permanent affordability, what does that mean to you?
Speaker 11: That I will be able to afford anything and everything
Speaker 11: permanently for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3: Okay, now take it a step further.
Speaker 2: You'll be able to afford anything and everything permanently for
Speaker 2: the rest of your life. What's another way of being
Speaker 2: able to have anything you want, anytime you want without question?
Speaker 3: Having a good stable job.
Speaker 2: You say, having a good stable job. I think that's lovely.
Speaker 2: Your problem is you're somebody who is responsible and you
Speaker 2: want to be able to earn your way. Permanent affordability,
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, means free. That's permanent affordability. Your problem.
Speaker 2: Producer landon is that you're still a capitalist. You just
Speaker 2: haven't learned.
Speaker 3: Don't worry.
Speaker 2: A couple of weeks, months, years in the re education
Speaker 2: camp and you'll be just fine.
Speaker 3: You'll be right as rain.
Speaker 2: Let's go. Permanent affordability is free. But as we know,
Speaker 2: as we know, what you have is what Margaret Thatcher described. Eventually,
Speaker 2: social socialism is great until you run out of other
Speaker 2: people's money. It can't be free. This is just what
Speaker 2: they present and people get answer it other ways, right
Speaker 2: Robert there in the chat room. Per and affordability is
Speaker 2: locked prices, which can only happen with communism. What happens
Speaker 2: when you have price freezes like they want to have
Speaker 2: rent control. Rent control is about stealing property. Rent control
Speaker 2: the landlord can't increase the rent, but the costs still
Speaker 2: go up, so they can't keep up with the upkeep
Speaker 2: of the apartment. So eventually they have to do away
Speaker 2: with it. They have to walk away from it. They
Speaker 2: can't afford this anymore, and the state takes over. It's
Speaker 2: about going after a private property rights, which they don't
Speaker 2: believe in, of course at all.
Speaker 3: Permanent affordability is the word play.
Speaker 2: To stealing of land and stealing of ownership and eliminating
Speaker 2: ownership except of course from the state, which is their goal.
Speaker 3: And their desire. And that's what she's putting forth.
Speaker 2: That's what the woman who will most probably win the
Speaker 2: primary for the Democrats today, that's her message.
Speaker 3: That is her message.
Speaker 2: This brings us to a commentary by Stephen Cotkin, who's
Speaker 2: appearing on a podcast now. Codkin is an academic born
Speaker 2: in Jersey, taught at Princeton. He has written about Stalin
Speaker 2: and in a bunch of different ways, and this is
Speaker 2: a breakdown that he is giving of how this still works.
Speaker 2: How is it possible that we have heard these lies?
Speaker 2: We have seen these lives, We've seen the devastation these
Speaker 2: lives have brought. Never mind on economics, but on lives.
Speaker 2: And one hundred million people murdered by communism period questionable,
Speaker 2: No doubt, of course they will lie about this. Number two,
Speaker 2: How does one deal with this confront to this This
Speaker 2: was a conversation that existed. I saw it online. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I think it's clean producer land and just finger on
Speaker 2: the dumb button just in case. I don't think anybody
Speaker 2: says anything odd. I just want to share part of
Speaker 2: this with you.
Speaker 12: Why is Marxism, Marxism Leninism especially so attractive to young
Speaker 12: people and to intellectuals. Why we have this history which
Speaker 12: is a bloody mess. Millions of people die, and they
Speaker 12: die because of the enactment of this ideology. How could
Speaker 12: people continue to adhere to an ideology like that during
Speaker 12: the murderous time period and even more after the murderous
Speaker 12: time period, when we can look at it dispassionately.
Speaker 2: Here's part of the answer.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 12: Young people are attracted to impatient, quick, total transformation of
Speaker 12: the world, eradication of war, eradication of social injustice. And
Speaker 12: there's a simplicity to the ideality. It's kind of a
Speaker 12: total package. It gets rid of everything bad just if
Speaker 12: you do if you follow the precepts, and so sure
Speaker 12: things happen that shouldn't have happened. There are some surprises,
Speaker 12: there are some downsides. But are you pro capitalism? Are
Speaker 12: you pro imperialist war? Are you pro landowners having all
Speaker 12: the land and the have nots having nothing?
Speaker 3: So there's this constant.
Speaker 12: Threat where if you contravene the ideology, you're in bed
Speaker 12: with the very evils that the ideology is trying to overcome.
Speaker 12: So you become an accomplice in the persistence of the
Speaker 12: things that you're dedicated.
Speaker 3: It's overthrowing. So it's not just.
Speaker 2: That you're loyal to the party.
Speaker 12: You're loyal to the outcome that the party is dedicated
Speaker 12: to achieving. And you know that they're going to be
Speaker 12: mistakes and costs and bad things happen along the way.
Speaker 3: But hey, is imperialist war better than that?
Speaker 12: No, the answer is imperialist war has got to be worse,
Speaker 12: and so I got it. But the other reason, which
Speaker 12: is even deeper than that, is because Marxism Leninism empowers
Speaker 12: the intellectual class and the lump and intellectual class. You
Speaker 12: see in a market system, you get to do what
Speaker 12: you want. You want to open up a family business,
Speaker 12: you want to take a loan and give it a try.
Speaker 12: You can do that. Nobody can stop you. Now, it
Speaker 12: might be that it's hard to get the loan in
Speaker 12: some neighborhoods. It might be that the loan interest rates.
Speaker 12: You got to work much.
Speaker 3: Harder than you thought, et cetera.
Speaker 12: But you get to make the decisions. You get to
Speaker 12: decide what to do, when to do. You can work
Speaker 12: for somebody else, you can put on your own shingle.
Speaker 12: In these kind of systems, it's the intellectuals and the
Speaker 12: lump and intellectuals who make those decisions. They use the
Speaker 12: state as an instrument to overcome the injustices of the
Speaker 12: existing society. Again, the injustices are real, but that empowers
Speaker 12: them to.
Speaker 3: Be in charge.
Speaker 12: So the beauty of Marxism, Leninism, and why what we
Speaker 12: used to call the third world loves this is because
Speaker 12: they get to be in power. It empowers them across
Speaker 12: the board. They get to make the decisions on the economy,
Speaker 12: and they don't have to submit to elections, they don't
Speaker 12: have to have a mandate, they don't have to legitimate
Speaker 12: their rule beyond the ideological building of a new world
Speaker 12: of overcoming injustice. So what we see again and again
Speaker 12: is young people being impatient for evil to end, but
Speaker 12: also empowering themselves to be in charge.
Speaker 2: They love the state.
Speaker 12: They love the state as an instrument for social justice,
Speaker 12: social engineering.
Speaker 3: They love to.
Speaker 12: Empower themselves as the decision makers because after all, they're
Speaker 12: the intellectuals.
Speaker 2: Now, that's a really good breakdown. I'm going to give
Speaker 2: you the three components here worth remembering. Number one, this
Speaker 2: impatience idea. This impatience idea is also something that has
Speaker 2: drilled into them through an academia which we gave up
Speaker 2: to the progressive and that says your parents learned wrong,
Speaker 2: only you know what's right. It's about cleaving the child
Speaker 2: from the parent, cleaving the child from the family unit,
Speaker 2: breaking up of the nuclear family so that the child
Speaker 2: can have independent thought, allegedly with no consequence to a
Speaker 2: family tie or paying attention to a family unit, and
Speaker 2: says you want things quick, and we can do things quick,
Speaker 2: for example, no more forever wars, even though that doesn't
Speaker 2: mean anything. If you should break and say, well I
Speaker 2: agree with this, and I agree with that, but I
Speaker 2: don't agree with that, well, then you are on the
Speaker 2: side of the oppressor. That's number two. Any break or
Speaker 2: from the loyalty, from the fealty from this chain, and
Speaker 2: you are on the side of the oppressor. What you
Speaker 2: want forever wars. It's an irrational statement that creates an
Speaker 2: irrational response that one has a hard time coming back
Speaker 2: to you because the other person is now screaming that
Speaker 2: you're in favor of.
Speaker 3: Killing babies or some nonsense.
Speaker 2: It relies on irrationality to play on your rationality.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 2: It allows the intellectual who has never created anything and
Speaker 2: never produced anything and does not have to show any result,
Speaker 2: does not have to show their work. All they have
Speaker 2: to do is say the right thing, and look at
Speaker 2: my degrees, and look where I teach, utilizing the trappings
Speaker 2: of institutions we used to rely on against our own children,
Speaker 2: against us, against Western civilization as proof that they are right.
Speaker 2: That's some insidious stuff, and it's working. And I think
Speaker 2: it's going to work in Wisconsin, shamefully, at least in
Speaker 2: a primary.
Speaker 3: Keep it here. This is Tony Kats Today.
Speaker 2: President Trump put on an executive order yesterday, and the
Speaker 2: executive order was about changing the vaccine schedule. Tony Katz
Speaker 2: Tony Kats Today. Specifically, what I had read was that
Speaker 2: it reduces the number of vaccines from seventeen to eleven.
Speaker 2: Not that you can't get other vaccines. This is the
Speaker 2: number of recommended vaccines. And then there was the breaking
Speaker 2: up of MMR, mumps, measles, rubella. First things first, I'm
Speaker 2: not a doctor. I just play one in the bedroom. Secondly,
Speaker 2: I didn't need an executive order to do any of
Speaker 2: this for my children, my wife and I years ago
Speaker 2: looked at the vaccine schedule and said, you know what
Speaker 2: the problem here is. There's too much happening at one time.
Speaker 2: This is too much. This is overloading of a system.
Speaker 2: This is a bad idea. We don't have a problem
Speaker 2: of vaccines, but there's an overload here. There's an aggression here.
Speaker 2: This isn't necessary. And we went to our doctor and
Speaker 2: we said no, no, no, no no, we want to break
Speaker 2: them all up.
Speaker 3: We'll come back time and again, but we want.
Speaker 2: To do these one at a time, please, And that's
Speaker 2: exactly how we did it. I didn't need an executive
Speaker 2: order to break things up. I'm the parent, I'm in charge.
Speaker 2: I said, there's a better way, you know what my
Speaker 2: doctor said to her credit, Yeah, we can do that.
Speaker 2: It's not a problem. Like we weren't the first people
Speaker 2: to do this, the idea of seventeen recommended to eleven recommended.
Speaker 3: Can't we agree that maybe science evolves.
Speaker 2: And we learn more, and maybe some things are more
Speaker 2: important than others, and some things were actually never necessary
Speaker 2: and they were bad ideas. Are you telling me it
Speaker 2: always has to be seventeen No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: This is fine.
Speaker 2: Consult with your doctor, do what's best for your kid.
Speaker 3: I'm Tony Kats.
Speaker 2: Three more things, Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, always great
Speaker 2: to be with you. What are three more things? Here?
Speaker 3: Is what three more things is?
Speaker 2: There are stories that should be front page news, but
Speaker 2: because of everything on the front pages, they don't make
Speaker 2: the front pages. And that's why I bring them to you.
Speaker 2: Three more things. I guess I should start with Fauci.
Speaker 2: Fauci should be in prison. That's my look, that's my take.
Speaker 2: Innocental proven guilty. I didn't say you couldn't have a trial.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying Fauci's guilty. I am not a lawyer,
Speaker 2: that I am not a judge. We have not heard
Speaker 2: a defense. All I'm saying is Anthony Fauci should spend
Speaker 2: the rest of his days in prison. And I would
Speaker 2: argue that you have to take away his passport right
Speaker 2: now because that dude is a flight risk? Did I
Speaker 2: Did I say it well enough? Did I explain myself
Speaker 2: well enough? This comes from the announcements yesterday text messages.
Speaker 3: That were put out by Senator Ron Johnson.
Speaker 2: These text messages released by Johnson, released by Senator Ran Paul.
Speaker 2: We already know that there's going to be an investigation.
Speaker 2: De Fauci, who was the guy who was going to
Speaker 2: save us from COVID, you know, like Governor Andrew Cuomo
Speaker 2: did until he killed everybody's grandparents in a nursing home.
Speaker 3: And here is the.
Speaker 2: Message that sent everybody into an apoplectic fit. Quote from
Speaker 2: doctor Fauci. This is January twenty fifth, twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3: Quote.
Speaker 2: I asked around a bit more and another issue came
Speaker 2: up that you need to be aware of. Be aware
Speaker 2: of since many people have significant cytokine storms and fever
Speaker 2: after the second dose, this theoretically could be associated with
Speaker 2: miscarriage in the first trimester. Now, first things first, I
Speaker 2: still haven't figured out whether I'm pronouncing it correctly. When
Speaker 2: I say cytokines are cytokines cyto ki n ees. These
Speaker 2: are signaling proteins that control inflammation in the body.
Speaker 3: Allowing you to mount to defense.
Speaker 2: So he's saying that after the second dose, meaning a booster,
Speaker 2: a COVID booster, there is significant cytokeine storm and fever.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't question this.
Speaker 2: As a non medical professional, I don't know if this
Speaker 2: is true or this is not. It is the next
Speaker 2: statement that got everybody into an insanity. This theoretically could
Speaker 2: be associated with miscarriage in the first trimester. Oh oh my,
Speaker 2: is that right? You had concerns, doctor Fauci, of pregnant
Speaker 2: women having miscarriages, and then you decided to spend the
Speaker 2: next year saying nothing about it. This was a message
Speaker 2: that you wrote on January twenty fifth, twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: and then on February third, twenty twenty one, you stated,
Speaker 2: FDA and this is the quote have found thus far,
Speaker 2: and we have to be careful, but thus far, no
Speaker 2: red flags about that about pregnant women.
Speaker 3: This was a rebuttal.
Speaker 2: That you made to a doctor James Thorpe, published to
Speaker 2: a paper that was published in the New England Journal
Speaker 2: of Medicine. You stated that there was absolutely no connection. Nope,
Speaker 2: I didn't say I shouldn't say that. You didn't say
Speaker 2: that absolutely. You said as of right now, red flags
Speaker 2: about pregnant women, and a week earlier you were saying,
Speaker 2: you know, this could theoretically lead to that. I didn't
Speaker 2: say that it did. I said theoretically that it could.
Speaker 2: And you're seeing a lot of discussion about this right now.
Speaker 2: But a couple other things got said August thirtieth, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one quote from Anthony Fauci, Well, are the vaccines safe?
Speaker 2: Tens and tens and tens of thousands of women who
Speaker 2: have been followed by the CDC who have been vaccinated
Speaker 2: when they were pregnant, There's no indication whatsoever that there's
Speaker 2: any increase of any adverse issues in a pregnant woman
Speaker 2: who was vaccinated compared to a pregnant woman who wasn't vaccinated.
Speaker 2: It's pretty clear that pregnant women should get vaccinated. Rashaul Lensky,
Speaker 2: who led the CDC quote. CDC strongly recommends COVID nineteen
Speaker 2: vaccination either before or during pregnancy, because the benefits of
Speaker 2: vaccination outweigh known or potential risks. Did you share what
Speaker 2: those potential risks are? Like miscarriage, theoretical risk is potential risk.
Speaker 3: Did you mention what those risks are? This, to me
Speaker 3: is the story.
Speaker 2: Now there are people who are going to argue all day,
Speaker 2: all night, weekends as well, all of a sudden they're experts.
Speaker 2: Of course, social media is all about the people who
Speaker 2: want to put out how smart they are, even if
Speaker 2: they have no expertise on the subject. This takes us
Speaker 2: to Brad Palumbo. Brad Palumbo is a nice guy. Brad
Speaker 2: Palumbo is part of the Steamboat Institute. You've seen Brad
Speaker 2: Palumbo maybe on TV. Brad Palumbo again, nice guy, but
Speaker 2: he often thinks that he knows it all. And his
Speaker 2: point is is that everybody is sharing an out of
Speaker 2: context piece of data, because if you take a look
Speaker 2: at the data, it could read that eighty two percent
Speaker 2: of pregnant women who received the COVID vaccine had a miscarriage.
Speaker 3: That isn't.
Speaker 2: The number. And Alex Berenson and some others have been
Speaker 2: pointing out, guys, this eighty two percent number isn't really
Speaker 2: the number. That's not the miscarriage number, and you got
Speaker 2: to you gotta stop it. Actually, when you actually engage
Speaker 2: these these numbers, it's twelve percent, which works out roughly
Speaker 2: the same as the typical first trimester miscarriage.
Speaker 3: So that's his argument.
Speaker 2: This then leads to other arguments, which is, no, that's
Speaker 2: not it. And you've got people who are mds or
Speaker 2: at least make the claim of being mds online saying
Speaker 2: that you're relying on certain studies that have zero value,
Speaker 2: especially when you're talking about vaccination that occurred on women
Speaker 2: in the third trimester, which is way different than the
Speaker 2: first trimester. At this moment, what the rational person should
Speaker 2: do is concede the following point. There could be many
Speaker 2: different ways to interpret the data, and none of us
Speaker 2: are medical professional enough to properly interpret the data, So
Speaker 2: we need to talk to people who know all the
Speaker 2: ways that can be interpreted. Once we understand all the
Speaker 2: ways it can be interpreted, we as human beings and
Speaker 2: rational people could say, well, that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: That does make sense. I could see how somebody could
Speaker 2: do this. I see how this could be manipulated. There
Speaker 2: that much we can do to make the claim that
Speaker 2: we have an expertise and how to interpret the data. No,
Speaker 2: I think that's fool But that's not the story, is it.
Speaker 2: Just like we discussed Jake Tapper. Jake Tapper all upset
Speaker 2: because there was a threat on the life of President
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. So they took Donald Trump secretly off of
Speaker 2: Air Force One when he was leaving Turkey, put him
Speaker 2: on a different plane and flew him home. And the
Speaker 2: press corps and White House staffers were on Air Force
Speaker 2: One thinking they were on board with the president when
Speaker 2: they weren't. Oh my gosh, well look what they did.
Speaker 2: How dare they? The Secret Service has a job to
Speaker 2: do to protect the President of the United States. And
Speaker 2: your argument is what about me? What about you?
Speaker 3: Jake Tapper?
Speaker 2: I live in the real world, and the real world
Speaker 2: required that the President of the United States be safe.
Speaker 2: But you and I both know, or at least I know,
Speaker 2: and you're acting the fool that that's not the story.
Speaker 2: The story is the Iranian regime trying to kill the
Speaker 2: president to the United States. That's the story. The story
Speaker 2: here with Fauci is not actually the data because we
Speaker 2: don't have enough information yet, just from less than twenty
Speaker 2: four hours of the story being out to be able
Speaker 2: to understand what actually has taken place, understand where all
Speaker 2: where the data is, and how it can be interpreted,
Speaker 2: all the ways can be interpreted, and then asking ourselves
Speaker 2: what do those interpretations mean. The story here is that
Speaker 2: Anthony Fauci didn't give us the actual story in every
Speaker 2: instance that we have seen over the last week. When
Speaker 2: his emails are out, the diaries are out. He's claiming
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, I should say, when his information
Speaker 2: is out. The information is out, diaries are out, emails
Speaker 2: are out, the text messages are out when he's pleading
Speaker 2: the fifth one hundred and eleven times. Everything shows that
Speaker 2: Anthony Fauci purposefully, willfully, and wantonly hid information from the
Speaker 2: American people. I would argue from President Trump, and I
Speaker 2: would argue from those people in charge at the time
Speaker 2: to make well founded decisions, conclusions, or to give proper advice.
Speaker 2: That proper advice was the thing he was avoiding giving. Rather,
Speaker 2: it was about control, and the media apparachic worked in
Speaker 2: concert with him to control that message and silence other
Speaker 2: people from delivering their messages. Social media moved to ban
Speaker 2: those messages from being delivered and to keep people delivering
Speaker 2: those messages off of social media. That's the story. It's
Speaker 2: not that we couldn't have made decisions for ourselves. It's
Speaker 2: that we weren't allowed to make decisions for ourselves. It's
Speaker 2: not that we couldn't take a look at all the
Speaker 2: extrapolated data and ask ourselves, here's how it applies to me.
Speaker 2: It's that nobody was willing to say, hey, there's more
Speaker 2: than one way to look at this. Why don't we
Speaker 2: trust the institutions? This is why, because Anthony Fauci didn't
Speaker 2: want trust in the institution. He wanted to be the
Speaker 2: infallible institution. And for that, I want him in jail,
Speaker 2: innocent until proven guilty. Sure for a court of law,
Speaker 2: you bet. What do I say? I say what you say,
Speaker 2: He's going to look great in Orange. I also say
Speaker 2: that you need to protect your data because it's out
Speaker 2: there for any criminal to grab a hold of. Lots
Speaker 2: of criminals out there, not just in my view Fauci.
Speaker 2: And they want your data and all your information, including
Speaker 2: your email addressing, your cell phone number, including your kid's names,
Speaker 2: including your address, and your medical conditions, including your voting record.
Speaker 2: And they're going to use it against you. They're gonna
Speaker 2: take that file, they're going to sell that file. So
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Speaker 2: And they are really really sophisticated, like when you get
Speaker 2: those text messages, and those text messages are all about
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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, So you might see some movements in
Speaker 2: the market as one of the executives of open Ai
Speaker 2: has decided to leave the company to start something new. Okay, well,
Speaker 2: a lot of investment going in to see the executive
Speaker 2: team start falling apart. He was nothing more than the.
Speaker 3: Chief operating officer, okay, Tony Katz.
Speaker 2: Tony Katz today And if that's not enough to bother you,
Speaker 2: flesh eating bacteria. Yeah, this this is a not just
Speaker 2: a Florida story LI disease.
Speaker 3: Comprised immune systems.
Speaker 2: Dealing with this more than others. It's a flesh eating
Speaker 2: bacteria spreading up the Eastern seaboard, and so the bacteria
Speaker 2: is known as Vibrio vinificous, which you would think is
Speaker 2: something that was a spell with Harry Potter. It can
Speaker 2: infect through skin wounds and by eating raw oysters andres
Speaker 2: the body through any break in the skin, even a
Speaker 2: small cut or scrape ones inside can burrow beneath the
Speaker 2: surface and destroy muscle tissue. In severe cases spreads into
Speaker 2: the bloodstream and causes sepsis. That's just honestly, if you
Speaker 2: look at enough stuff, as I just douse myself in
Speaker 2: antibacterial you wouldn't leave the house. And the thing you're
Speaker 2: looking for is swollen d or tendered pain that seems
Speaker 2: more severe than the wound would suggest a slight cut,
Speaker 2: but you're in great pain. Could be a sign of
Speaker 2: things going on here, really frightening stuff. Do I think
Speaker 2: you should stop going outside?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 3: Is there a concern?
Speaker 2: Yes? Do we have more of these things than ever?
Speaker 2: In some ways I think we do. Could just be
Speaker 2: things come and go. It could be something else. This
Speaker 2: is Tony kat today, lie from.
Speaker 1: Vall Hartliner and the Crossroads of America.
Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. I don't think I need to
Speaker 2: reiterate where I'm at. You can tell me about a
Speaker 2: low key war from now until the end of time.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is. I don't know what
Speaker 2: a low key war could possibly be. As a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, I don't know if a low key war
Speaker 2: is winnable. Now, if we're talking about economic pressure, if
Speaker 2: we're talking about, as Major Mike Lyons discussed military analyst,
Speaker 2: the siege mentality. Oh sure, I'm down with that. That
Speaker 2: makes perfect sense. But that is not actually low key.
Speaker 2: That is about purpose and keeping yourself on top of it,
Speaker 2: which may include strikes. Just playing at low key and
Speaker 2: let Iran economically fall apart. Well, it's nice in theory.
Speaker 2: I just don't know if it can be done in practice.
Speaker 2: And can you be low key against an enemy that's
Speaker 2: trying to kill you? Which will bring us to the
Speaker 2: Air Force one story, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good
Speaker 2: to be with you. Leland Viddert joins us right now.
Speaker 2: He is the host of on balance with Leland vitterert
Speaker 2: over at News Nation. Now go check that out every
Speaker 2: single evening. You spent quite a few years studying the
Speaker 2: Middle East, reporting from Jerusalem. You were the guy over
Speaker 2: there back in the day Fox News covering Israel, covering
Speaker 2: the Middle East. This is your Balu Wick. Let's start
Speaker 2: with the Iranian mindset towards the United States and towards
Speaker 2: this war.
Speaker 7: Where would you say they are in this battle. They
Speaker 7: believe they are winning for a number of reasons. That
Speaker 7: they think President Trump is probably weak would be a
Speaker 7: good word, but certainly he is manageable. They believe they
Speaker 7: understand where the pain points are.
Speaker 13: They think they have effectively.
Speaker 7: Corralled him into a corner where he is unable to
Speaker 7: escalate against them, and they will continue to extract a
Speaker 7: price and humiliate him because they wont him further weakened
Speaker 7: by a loss at the midterms. That is how the
Speaker 7: Iranians are viewing it right now. And they think they
Speaker 7: are in a better position right now than when the
Speaker 7: war started, because they have proven to the Arab world
Speaker 7: and to the rest of the world that they can
Speaker 7: withstand the American president and they can outlast him. I
Speaker 7: said at the very beginning of this war. This was
Speaker 7: not going to be a war won or lost by
Speaker 7: military might. This was a war won or lost by
Speaker 7: political will. And the Iranians very clearly have far more
Speaker 7: political will than Donald Trump does.
Speaker 3: Does the political will come from.
Speaker 2: An ideological set meaning being Islamists or does it come
Speaker 2: from the protection of knowing that as these kind of
Speaker 2: broken up factions within the IRGC, because I would argue
Speaker 2: that there is no leadership to negotiate with.
Speaker 3: I don't believe that the foreign.
Speaker 2: Minister or the speaker there for their government has any
Speaker 2: power whatsoever. You've got these factionalized grow within the IRGC,
Speaker 2: many of whom are working independently. There is no way
Speaker 2: to corral them without troops on the ground. And that's
Speaker 2: where anybody could have made a calculation that that's the
Speaker 2: much more difficult play for the president, that we don't
Speaker 2: seem to have that.
Speaker 3: Desire in place.
Speaker 7: Well, fair points except for the fact that we sort
Speaker 7: of knew that from the beginning, right, and that is
Speaker 7: why the Israelis had a plan in place to continue
Speaker 7: decapitation strikes so that every group that either wouldn't make
Speaker 7: a deal or broke a deal was no longer breathing
Speaker 7: air and was delivered to their personal meeting with Allah
Speaker 7: and number two why they had a plan for the Kurds,
Speaker 7: which are perhaps the longest and best US allies in
Speaker 7: the Middle East, sands Israel a plan for the Kurds
Speaker 7: to begin leading a ground invasion operation start of a
Speaker 7: revolution that President Trump pulled the plug on because Erdawan
Speaker 7: of Turkey called him and said, you know, he didn't
Speaker 7: like it, and Trump went along with it, which is
Speaker 7: wacky that that happened, and I think really a horrible
Speaker 7: strategic miscalculation, and Trump pulled the Israelis back. So to
Speaker 7: your point, yes, that analysis is correct. But the reason
Speaker 7: that that analysis is true is because President Trump drastically
Speaker 7: changed the course of the war for domestic political considerations.
Speaker 2: Talking to Leland Vittert from News Nation. Now you catch
Speaker 2: him on balance with a Leland Vindert every single evening
Speaker 2: at nine pm Eastern time, is when.
Speaker 3: You catch that show.
Speaker 2: I am one of the people who argues that this
Speaker 2: was the right course, the proper course, and we should
Speaker 2: have I'm glad you brought up the Kurds because I'm
Speaker 2: I'm a believer that yes, we can arm the Kurds.
Speaker 2: The Kurds can work with the Iranian people on top
Speaker 2: of the IRGC on the ground. The Kurds have a
Speaker 2: desire to do so. There was the conversation about whether
Speaker 2: or not the Vice President JD. Vance got in the
Speaker 2: way of that, tried to stop that deal from happening,
Speaker 2: which brings us to is there a question within the
Speaker 2: administration of these competing forces? Do you think on a
Speaker 2: real level, You've got Rubio over here, You've got Vance
Speaker 2: over here, you have possibly the Secretary of Defense Pete
Speaker 2: Hegseath somewhere in a varying amount of places, all vying
Speaker 2: for the president's ear. Is there, in your view, a
Speaker 2: battle on tactic and desire within the administration?
Speaker 7: Sure, and there always is in every administration. There's varying factions,
Speaker 7: whether it be on domestic policy on foreign policy. That's
Speaker 7: not anything new. The problem with the JD. Vance were
Speaker 7: old view is that it doesn't work. Much like socialism,
Speaker 7: it has a predictable end. You know, America first, we
Speaker 7: don't need to be involved in overseas. Spend all the
Speaker 7: money back here at home, forget Israel. All of that
Speaker 7: sounds sort of plausibly true, and like well, of course
Speaker 7: we should do all of those things, until you look
Speaker 7: at what the results have been. Same with socialism, medicare
Speaker 7: for all, more money in your pocket sounds great. Who
Speaker 7: doesn't think we should be able to have a better
Speaker 7: education system. How can you turn your back on the
Speaker 7: future of America? And then you look at Cuba and
Speaker 7: Venezuela and you know what socialism does. We know what
Speaker 7: the America First Agenda does. It's what got us into
Speaker 7: World War two.
Speaker 3: So I think you're.
Speaker 7: Right that this is this faction issue is playing out
Speaker 7: more importantly. I think for the conversation, President Trump is
Speaker 7: somebody who does not like pain. He likes easy wins,
Speaker 7: not hard winds. Hard winds are by definition difficult. That's
Speaker 7: why they're they're meaningful. That's why, to your point, exactly,
Speaker 7: no other president in forty seven years has taken the
Speaker 7: Iranians on. He did, but was unwilling to endure the
Speaker 7: pain to actually finish this. And it's sort of bewildering
Speaker 7: to me that people who really say that, you know,
Speaker 7: Trump is so strong and he's so committed and everything else.
Speaker 7: This is a man who, when presented with even mild
Speaker 7: domestic political pushback, wants to move on to the next thing.
Speaker 7: And that's fine when you're building buildings, because you can
Speaker 7: always find another piece of real estate to buy. It's
Speaker 7: not fine when dealing with fanatical terrorists like the Iranians
Speaker 7: or a fanatical nationalist like Putin er Gi.
Speaker 3: There was this talk.
Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal had the story that Trump is looking
Speaker 2: to move on. He wants any kind of exit, he
Speaker 2: can get, whatever kind of off ramp he can take,
Speaker 2: and he's grown tired of this. I'm not somebody who
Speaker 2: believes that he grows tired of things. He hasn't grown
Speaker 2: tired of securing the border. He hasn't grown tired of tariffs.
Speaker 2: I can point to a multiplicity of.
Speaker 7: Things, and those are all easy. They didn't cost him anything.
Speaker 7: They didn't cost him anything to do.
Speaker 2: They're costing inflation, so I you know, may not cost
Speaker 2: him lives.
Speaker 13: It's a nebulous thing.
Speaker 7: He can declare victory, he can talk about how he's winning,
Speaker 7: so he needed to be fair.
Speaker 13: On the border.
Speaker 7: He is winning, but when it comes to Iran, he
Speaker 7: can't say I'm winning in Iran. He does, and then
Speaker 7: the Iranians, you know, tighten the thumb screws on the
Speaker 7: straight or hoar moves and gas goes up by fifty cents,
Speaker 7: and then he has, you know, a couple of strikes
Speaker 7: for two.
Speaker 13: Days, and then goes Oh. The Iranians have called me
Speaker 13: and begged me to stop. Nobody believes this anymore, and.
Speaker 3: That is wholeheartedly true.
Speaker 2: Leland talking to Leland Viderat of News Nation Now check
Speaker 2: out on Balance with a Leland Verterit every Monday through
Speaker 2: Friday at nine pm. Look, I'm the guy, and you've
Speaker 2: quoted me before, and I appreciate it. The first rule
Speaker 2: of trump issm is Trump wins, and the second rule
Speaker 2: of trump Ism is that a deal can always be
Speaker 2: made as long as it adheres to the first rule
Speaker 2: of trump Ism. That has not changed since he was
Speaker 2: first elected. I agree with you. You can't tell people that
Speaker 2: we're in control. He took from the oval yesterday. The
Speaker 2: President said we controlled the straight up our moves one
Speaker 2: hundred percent, and yet West Texas crude was nearing eighty
Speaker 2: five dollars a barrel as I speak to you as
Speaker 2: about eighty two dollars a barrel. You can't say that
Speaker 2: you have control when that isn't the case. And I
Speaker 2: agree with you that no one believes him, and it
Speaker 2: makes them look bad, it makes them look weak. And
Speaker 2: this is where it gets even stranger because President Trump,
Speaker 2: you and I would agree, it's not.
Speaker 3: Somebody who ever wants that look.
Speaker 2: He never wants that imagery put out there as a weakness.
Speaker 2: So why is he employing a strategy that is guaranteed
Speaker 2: to amplify this idea of weakness?
Speaker 7: Number One, He thinks and he believes that he can
Speaker 7: win by declaring victory. And it's worked for him for
Speaker 7: most of his life. Right, It's why he declared victory
Speaker 7: in the twenty twenty election. He thought he sort of
Speaker 7: can manifest victory simply by stating it.
Speaker 13: In many cases, that's true.
Speaker 7: In a few cases, like when dealing with fanatical terrorists,
Speaker 7: the other side gets to say and the other side
Speaker 7: has decided that they're not going to play ball. So
Speaker 7: I'm not sure. I think probably. You know, you can't
Speaker 7: teach an old dog new tricks. Very difficult to teach
Speaker 7: an old president that what's worked for them for sixty
Speaker 7: years with phenomenal success. He did win two elections as
Speaker 7: president of the United States. It's very difficult to explain
Speaker 7: why what's been working for him won't work. And I
Speaker 7: think also you have a lot of people, Steve Whitkoff,
Speaker 7: Jared Kushner among them, who are telling him that it
Speaker 7: will work and explaining how it can. And this we
Speaker 7: had Bill O'Reilly on last night, who I think has
Speaker 7: very been very clear headed about this and has said
Speaker 7: how much he thinks President Trump is in a fight
Speaker 7: for his political life and legacy in the fight with Iran,
Speaker 7: and it is a it is. It is a fight
Speaker 7: in which simply declaring victory doesn't work. Roosevelt could not
Speaker 7: just say we beat the Nazis. You actually had to
Speaker 7: beat them, and that is true of iran Is. You
Speaker 7: were pointed out at the beginning. It is a very
Speaker 7: worthy goal. It is something worth doing, needs to be done,
Speaker 7: will eventually have to be done because radical Islam, expansions
Speaker 7: of Islam is not going to stop, and hasn't for
Speaker 7: fourteen hundre years with trying to conquer the West.
Speaker 2: And I made the point yesterday that if just one
Speaker 2: centrifuge gets started, one bit of uranium gets enriched after
Speaker 2: we declare victory, that's a legacy that's tainted for forever.
Speaker 3: And the president must what.
Speaker 13: Makes you think you're not enriching uranium right now.
Speaker 2: Well, if you want to sit here and have a bourbon,
Speaker 2: we can get into that argument. I don't disagree with
Speaker 2: you at all, man, I don't disagree with you at
Speaker 2: all of what's possible still on the ground. But that's
Speaker 2: another conversation for another day. Talking to Leland Vindder of
Speaker 2: News Nation now you find him on balance with Leland
Speaker 2: Viddert every Monday through Friday at nine pm. We've got
Speaker 2: a series of primaries today, including the one there in
Speaker 2: Wisconsin with Francesco Hung. I know you've written about this
Speaker 2: in your column over there at News Nation. Of course
Speaker 2: your substack war notes. People should go check that out
Speaker 2: as well. But this is a question about the DSA.
Speaker 2: And while the president is having this issue, I considered
Speaker 2: an issue what's going on with a RA and it
Speaker 2: hurts him. Yet I can take a look at all
Speaker 2: the polling in the world. I can see the congressional ballot,
Speaker 2: the generic congressional ballot with Democrats up plus seven and
Speaker 2: laugh out loud at it because they told me that
Speaker 2: abdul Lsied was up by thirteen plus points in Michigan
Speaker 2: and he'd beat Haley Stevens by a point. Is the
Speaker 2: DSA a drag on the Democrats? And is there something
Speaker 2: you're looking for in these primaries, whether it's Wisconsin, Minnesota,
Speaker 2: we got a special election in South Carolina, it shouldn't
Speaker 2: really tell us much. Is there something that you're looking
Speaker 2: at in these primaries that could tell us or that
Speaker 2: you think tell us where the general election might go.
Speaker 7: I'm going to tell you something nobody ever tells you
Speaker 7: on radio or TV. You ready, yep, I don't know.
Speaker 7: Excellent work. Yeah, that's why we have elections. The polling
Speaker 7: was off in Michigan. Primaries, especially primaries with sort of
Speaker 7: an urgent base, are extremely hard to poll. General elections
Speaker 7: are generally easier to poll. But there's a reason we
Speaker 7: have elections, and we don't have a phone survey of
Speaker 7: a thousand people to decide who wins every Senate race.
Speaker 7: So we have to wait and see how this sort
Speaker 7: of plays out. I think in the next thirty to
Speaker 7: sixty days you're going to have a better idea if
Speaker 7: there is enough anger Democrats plus seven to make up
Speaker 7: for the craziness of Abduel Siaed, who thinks that you
Speaker 7: know Sharia law may not be a bad idea for
Speaker 7: the United States, but we don't know how this is
Speaker 7: going to level out. Unquestionably, the Democrats in Michigan and
Speaker 7: nationwide for Michigan have made the calculus that they are
Speaker 7: willing to pour unlimited resources into.
Speaker 13: Michigan in behind al Saya.
Speaker 7: They think he can win, can he That's why we
Speaker 7: have elections for a Chessca Hong, I think is where
Speaker 7: you may be onto something more significant. And I say
Speaker 7: that because Bernie Sanders and AOC have an endorsed her. Yes,
Speaker 7: she is probably gonna win the primary, but she.
Speaker 3: Is also.
Speaker 7: Far far lacking in the political skills what you would
Speaker 7: call being a political athlete to deal with all of
Speaker 7: her wacky stuff.
Speaker 13: From the past.
Speaker 7: Like the Saiyad don't like Sayad, He's a generationally talented
Speaker 7: political athlete. Fanchesca Hong is not. And it's why Bernie
Speaker 7: and AOC have an endorsed her. It's why you're seeing
Speaker 7: a much more sideline view by establishment Democrats and even
Speaker 7: by the DSA in her candidacy. Does that change when
Speaker 7: she wins the primary?
Speaker 3: We don't know.
Speaker 2: Leland Vitddert find him on News Nation NewsNation now dot com.
Speaker 2: On Balance with Leland Viddert every Monday through Friday at
Speaker 2: nine pm. Good to see us, sir. We'll talk more
Speaker 2: in the future. Keep it right here. This is Tony
Speaker 2: Kats today. I'm going to say something that will shock
Speaker 2: you to your core. Did you know that it was
Speaker 2: hot in the month of July. I wasn't trying to
Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to tell a joke. But if you
Speaker 2: watch news reports, they're amazingly upset. This is dangerous stuff.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, it wasn't just hot. It
Speaker 2: was the hottest July in the history of mankind. You
Speaker 2: don't know that, you weirdos Tony Katz, Tony Katz today
Speaker 2: a pleasure. US just had its hottest month on record.
Speaker 2: This was Axios reporting that data goes back to eighteen
Speaker 2: ninety five. The average temperature in July was seventy six
Speaker 2: point eight nine degrees fahrenheit, topping the seventy six point
Speaker 2: seven to seven degree mark that was set in.
Speaker 3: July of nineteen thirty six.
Speaker 2: Of course, in nineteen thirty six we had all that
Speaker 2: global warming, what with all of the cars. There were cars,
Speaker 2: there just weren't that many cars, not like we have today. Cars,
Speaker 2: cars everywhere, trucks everyhere. It wasn't that and already the
Speaker 2: global warming was destroying us, or it is a cycle
Speaker 2: that goes hold on, it's twenty twenty six every ninety years. Now,
Speaker 2: I'm not an expert, I'm not a climatologist. But are
Speaker 2: there cycles of weather or over centuries? Is that a
Speaker 2: weird question to ask? I don't think that's a weird
Speaker 2: question to ask. As a matter of fact, I would
Speaker 2: say that's a rather normal.
Speaker 3: Question to ask.
Speaker 2: According to Wheeler's weather cycles, I swear to you this
Speaker 2: is a thing. Historical analysis suggests a one hundred year
Speaker 2: cycle with four phases cold, dry, warm, wet, warm, dry, cold,
Speaker 2: old wet, nested within larger five hundred year and one
Speaker 2: thousand year cycles that correlate with societal shifts and extreme
Speaker 2: weather events. Listen to me carefully. We should not burn
Speaker 2: tires in the middle of the road. We absolutely should
Speaker 2: say to ourselves we can be people who mitigate outputs
Speaker 2: through smart practices, outputs of pollutants, et cetera, and still
Speaker 2: get desired results. We should never say, because of dear
Speaker 2: sweet mother Gaya, we don't run air conditioning. That's crazy talk,
Speaker 2: Nor should we say, well, we're done using oil and
Speaker 2: will rely on wind and solar. You wouldn't be able
Speaker 2: to hear this show if we relied on wind and solar.
Speaker 2: But it was hot in nineteen thirty six, and it's
Speaker 2: hot now, and you look at the data, and we've
Speaker 2: had hot trends before, all right, it was hot in
Speaker 2: nineteen hundred, then it got a little bit hotter in
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty six, and then it dropped in the fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties,
Speaker 2: and then it's been on a trend and then it
Speaker 2: went down and it went back up. Sounds normal. These
Speaker 2: people just won't be normal. They just want to try
Speaker 2: and scare you to their political advantage. This is Tony
Speaker 2: Katz today. I thought that's exchange on CNN was worthy
Speaker 2: of sharing because it's a great example of things both internationally, nationally,
Speaker 2: locally where the level of hate is and more importantly,
Speaker 2: where the level.
Speaker 3: Of deception is.
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, an absolute pleasure to be
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 3: Now I have come to the.
Speaker 2: Place where I don't pay attention to CNN, and while
Speaker 2: I still have friends and colleagues who appear on that
Speaker 2: show Newsnight with Abby Phillip. I'm past it, and I
Speaker 2: would rather that they were as well. I can understand
Speaker 2: why people do cable news of all stripes, right. I
Speaker 2: do a lot of Newsmax these days. And I still
Speaker 2: like the idea that you go to the places that
Speaker 2: disagree because you want to be able to share an
Speaker 2: idea with people who may not normally hear it.
Speaker 3: I think that's really good.
Speaker 2: Now. Some things I don't some things I think are
Speaker 2: just mental. Piers Morgan show, I've never been asked, I've
Speaker 2: never tried to be asked that show is mental. He's
Speaker 2: got four guests or five guests and it's constant screaming,
Speaker 2: and holy hell, is that not for me?
Speaker 3: Don't want it, don't want to be a part of it.
Speaker 2: And if that's what it takes to be a superstar,
Speaker 2: screw that, Well, Tony, you got appear on all the
Speaker 2: crazy shows and deal with all the crazies because everybody
Speaker 2: wants to watch the crazy and that's how you get
Speaker 2: all the followers and the clicks. So screw that. I'm good.
Speaker 2: We get great ratings, we have great sponsors, like I'm fine.
Speaker 3: Can't live like that?
Speaker 2: How can anybody on the daily go on to this
Speaker 2: show with Abby Phillip and think that somehow they're doing
Speaker 2: something worthwhile.
Speaker 3: It's not just some people.
Speaker 2: Engage in the conversation where there's agreement and disagreement. It
Speaker 2: is a proactive maneuver to shun, stifle and shame right
Speaker 2: wing voices and never confront left wing madness. How many
Speaker 2: more clips do we need to see? And I will
Speaker 2: say it again for the people in the cheap seats,
Speaker 2: The very worst part of it all is that Abby Phillip,
Speaker 2: if she had played it correctly with Scott Jennings, she
Speaker 2: could have had the show that everybody had to watch.
Speaker 2: She could have been it, and she could have introduced
Speaker 2: herself in thoughts at moments where she could have had
Speaker 2: strong pushback. If she had just kept everybody on the
Speaker 2: straight and narrow, let Scott Jennings do what he does
Speaker 2: without the levels of host intimidation, host silencing, the propping
Speaker 2: up of maddening voices, man she could have she could
Speaker 2: have owned the network instead. It's no thanks, that's what
Speaker 2: it's become. That's what it has become. Now other people
Speaker 2: have joined the fray. Brad Todd does that show. I
Speaker 2: don't know Brad, but I think he's very good. Sometimes
Speaker 2: you see Pete Seat on that show. I know Pete
Speaker 2: and I think for that show, Pete does very very
Speaker 2: good work. Jason Rants is on that show, radio host
Speaker 2: out of Seattle. I think he does remarkably well. He's
Speaker 2: a talented cat. And there's a guy by the name
Speaker 2: of Jesse Arm. Jesse Arm is with the Manhattan's too.
Speaker 2: The Manhattan Institute is where the smart people are. Love
Speaker 2: love the Manhattans too. And on this show is Jason
Speaker 2: Rants and Abby Phillip has a fill in host, and
Speaker 2: you've got Jesse Arm and you've got Neil Stinage.
Speaker 3: Now I believe I'm pronouncing.
Speaker 2: His name right. He is Irish as an Irish journalist,
Speaker 2: and he's associated with the Hill and he is, like
Speaker 2: far too many people in Ireland.
Speaker 3: A bigot.
Speaker 2: The jew hate, the anti Semitism in Ireland is absolutely
Speaker 2: through the roof. And so here is this conversation that's
Speaker 2: taking place taking place on the show, and I want
Speaker 2: you to hear this clip of.
Speaker 14: It that had her some work to do it ha'd
Speaker 14: Haley Stevens won not primary.
Speaker 2: She would also have had work to do, particularly with.
Speaker 14: Arab Americans in the state life is the highest per
Speaker 14: capital population of Arab Americans in the company who believe
Speaker 14: up the Biden administration.
Speaker 3: Disgrace yourself.
Speaker 2: Now, this is a conversation about Michigan and the Michigan primary,
Speaker 2: and he is making the argument right. The argument has
Speaker 2: been made that because of Abdul l say Ed won,
Speaker 2: he's got a lot of work to do, a tremendous
Speaker 2: amount of work to do to try and grab voters
Speaker 2: Democrat voters who are disgusted with Abdul Sayed because abdulll
Speaker 2: Sayed he's a bigot. Abdul el Sayed is a guy's like, well,
Speaker 2: let's not talk about the killing of the the Iatola
Speaker 2: because it's going to make a lot of people in
Speaker 2: my who are my constituents sad. It's gonna make a
Speaker 2: lot of Muslims sad, sad that a terrorist is dead.
Speaker 2: This is what they're going to be sad by. Can
Speaker 2: we discuss the madness of this? And of course it's
Speaker 2: okay to note that Abdul al Sayed is connected with
Speaker 2: these radicals, with these leftists, connected with these communists. There's
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with this whatsoever. Noah Roffman does Abby Phillips show,
Speaker 2: and I do. I wish he wouldn't, except he's so
Speaker 2: good at it. And this was exactly the conversation that
Speaker 2: came up.
Speaker 11: There is a lot to talk about when it comes
Speaker 11: to ELSEI ed in terms of his past statement, his
Speaker 11: present positions, all of that isn't the right political strategy
Speaker 11: for Republicans to focus on his Muslim name, call him
Speaker 11: an Islam. I s say he wants to institute for
Speaker 11: real law versus actually just dealing with the actual policy
Speaker 11: that he supports.
Speaker 2: Isn't this part of the actual policy that he supports.
Speaker 2: This is all part of him. He has made this
Speaker 2: the part of the election. If you can't say my
Speaker 2: full name, keep it out your damn mouth. That's him,
Speaker 2: as if somehow abdul Rahman is something we cannot say.
Speaker 2: But hey, he wants to start this fight. And as
Speaker 2: Noah Rofman explains, soffare game.
Speaker 8: Unlike an all of the above. At first when it
Speaker 8: comes to this guy, he says, you know, I'm not
Speaker 8: a socialist, not like those guys. I'm a capitalist. All
Speaker 8: I want to do is nationalize the healthcare industry, eliminate
Speaker 8: border prick control and sees wealth not to use it
Speaker 8: for anything but just to make the playing field fair.
Speaker 8: But definitely not a communist. But yes, they can absolutely
Speaker 8: focus on what I regard as anti Western ideals. Like
Speaker 8: the notion that maybe he shouldn't celebrate the death of
Speaker 8: Ayatola Ali Kamani because his constituencies might be sad about that.
Speaker 8: Like the fact that he couldn't issue a condemnation, full throat,
Speaker 8: at unequivocal condemnation of an attempted terrorist attack on a
Speaker 8: Michigan synagogue that would have killed one hundred and forty
Speaker 8: two of children without condemning Israel in the very same sentence.
Speaker 8: And like the fact that he pells around with the
Speaker 8: sn piker.
Speaker 2: That is very well said, and what he brought up
Speaker 2: there is key to this conversation I'm going to bring
Speaker 2: you back to with Jesse arm and this guy Niel Stanage.
Speaker 2: It's that in the same sentence he couldn't say, how
Speaker 2: dare these terrorists engage in terrorism against the synagogue?
Speaker 3: You know the guy who tried.
Speaker 2: To drive through the synagogue. It is just the truck
Speaker 2: was too wide for the hallways in the synagogue. Oh,
Speaker 2: I can't just condemn them. We have to condemn Israel
Speaker 2: as well. This is akin to when what's your name
Speaker 2: ilhano mar the jew hating bigot her or she did
Speaker 2: to leave?
Speaker 3: I get my jew.
Speaker 2: Hating bigot's confused sometimes And they were going to have
Speaker 2: this big thing in the house condemning her, and instead
Speaker 2: what did they do. They didn't condemn her anti Semitism.
Speaker 2: They condemned all hate. That's a cop out. You have
Speaker 2: to talk about the thing. The thing is the story.
Speaker 2: So the point that this guy, this Irish journalist Niel
Speaker 2: Stenad just trying to make is that people say that
Speaker 2: Abdul l Sied is going to have to do a
Speaker 2: lot of outreach and bring Democrats to his society only
Speaker 2: one by one percent. He has a lot of outreach issues.
Speaker 2: He is saying, well, what about Haley Stevens. She'll have
Speaker 2: a lot of outreach issues because she was in favor
Speaker 2: of the Biden administration. The Biden administration did a terrible
Speaker 2: job regarding what Israel and the Palestinians. Abdul l Sayed
Speaker 2: is on the side of the Dsay is on the
Speaker 2: side of the communists and on the side of the Islamists.
Speaker 2: His words and his connection points Haley Stevens.
Speaker 3: Is a leftist, and yes she waited.
Speaker 2: She likes way too many large scale government policies and
Speaker 2: I wouldn't vote for in a general election. But she
Speaker 2: doesn't have anywhere near the outreach to do. But when
Speaker 2: you are obsessed, and when Israel is the everything and
Speaker 2: bringing that up and trying to tear that down is
Speaker 2: the only way you can connect to voters, you will
Speaker 2: bring it up in everything.
Speaker 3: And that's the point that gets made here.
Speaker 2: This is what this guy, this reporter is doing. And
Speaker 2: Jesse arm and Jason Rants also they they're right on this,
Speaker 2: Like what what possibly could you think is real in
Speaker 2: your statement you hate Israel so much that you think
Speaker 2: Hailey Stevens would have to do the same outreach as
Speaker 2: a dual l s I Ed and the outreach he's
Speaker 2: going to have to do as a matter of your
Speaker 2: politics and honesty, That isn't the case.
Speaker 3: And then this happens.
Speaker 13: She would have for.
Speaker 14: Human rights while shoveling weapons with which to cover, but
Speaker 14: it always goes back.
Speaker 8: To the Jews, like every single time, which is a
Speaker 8: perfect example of like some of what you're.
Speaker 3: Talking about, like the coded language and whatnot. Els I
Speaker 3: Ed has brought up a pack and.
Speaker 7: Brings it up absolutely every single time you can, because
Speaker 7: he wants to talk about the Jews and the people that.
Speaker 2: You're talking aboutause they support the most.
Speaker 3: Okay, so that was Jason Rants.
Speaker 2: He's absolutely correct, absolutely positively correct. Every time they bring
Speaker 2: up a pack.
Speaker 3: It's like an angel gets its wings. It's nuts.
Speaker 2: Apak is Americans who yes, support Israel, they ain't even
Speaker 2: shy about it. They support Israel. Well, the problem is
Speaker 2: they're deciding our foreign policy. Katar gives in multiples more
Speaker 2: money than a pack. Lots of groups give money, and
Speaker 2: of course they lobby. My gosh, this is nothing new.
Speaker 2: If you don't want to vote for somebody because they
Speaker 2: take that kind of money, it's fine. I mean, you're voting.
Speaker 2: You do with it what you will. But Apak is evil,
Speaker 2: is boogeyman bs and everybody knows it. And Rance is
Speaker 2: pointing this out. And when the Irish journalist gets all
Speaker 2: angry about it and lying about it and vicious about it,
Speaker 2: it's Jesse arm who's in with a doozy of a linea.
Speaker 9: Chill.
Speaker 8: We understand that Ireland cares a lot about Palestine, but.
Speaker 3: Some people don't It's such a good line. You could
Speaker 3: tell when you've gotten under somebody's skin.
Speaker 2: Chill, we understand that Ireland cares a lot about Palestine.
Speaker 2: Is an absolutely fantastic's a banger. It is such a
Speaker 2: good line because within the line, what is he what
Speaker 2: he is exposing? I don't even know if Jesse he
Speaker 2: must have realized it when he did it, because you
Speaker 2: realize when he did it he exposed what is the
Speaker 2: argument against rational thought? The argument against rational thought is emotional.
Speaker 2: The argument against rational thought is the emotional argument. Just
Speaker 2: scream Israel bad, Just scream Israel murderers, Just scream Israel guilty.
Speaker 2: And allow me to be more clear. I never said
Speaker 2: you had to like Israel. I don't care.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's up to you.
Speaker 2: The people who say we shouldn't give any foreign aid
Speaker 2: to Israel, I've got no issue with those people. My
Speaker 2: question is only what other nations do you not want
Speaker 2: to get foreign aid to. Cutting off foreign aid is
Speaker 2: an absolutely acceptable political discussion. We can discuss whether it's
Speaker 2: the right idea or the wrong idea. You should petition
Speaker 2: your members of Congress if you believe in that, and
Speaker 2: absolutely push them to vote in that direction. I don't
Speaker 2: think there's anything wrong with that at all. But the
Speaker 2: concept of aid, and in all the ways that can
Speaker 2: be given, is always not about the nation. It's about
Speaker 2: what is in our best interest. And that's something that
Speaker 2: these groups never begin to talk about. If we want
Speaker 2: to get rid of all foreign aid, fine by me.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get upset. I'm not going to shed
Speaker 2: a tear. Great Now, do we get to lower our
Speaker 2: taxes or are we gonna end up shoveling into other
Speaker 2: nations through some other methodology. I mean, it won't be
Speaker 2: usaid because we got rid of that crap. The argument
Speaker 2: that this guy, this journalist Stanage is making is an
Speaker 2: emotional one because his hatred overwhelms his ability to be
Speaker 2: a journalist. Do you think that guy can do any
Speaker 2: type of actual, unbiased reporting. Oh honey, you don't believe that,
Speaker 2: and neither does anybody else. No one believes it.
Speaker 3: And that's what makes this so great.
Speaker 2: Now, aren't I contradicting myself that this exposing that took
Speaker 2: place on CNN wouldn't happen if this show didn't exist?
Speaker 2: Does Zabi Phillips show and CNN didn't exist?
Speaker 3: Maybe?
Speaker 2: But maybe the answer is you don't even have these
Speaker 2: kinds of conversations that become these unhinged yelling fests.
Speaker 3: Look, I've been part of that on a lot of levels.
Speaker 3: It sucks.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe there's a good in it that
Speaker 2: I'm just not willing to recognize. Maybe there's a good
Speaker 2: in it, and I just know it's not for me.
Speaker 2: Maybe this is the way you get viewers in today's world,
Speaker 2: and that's that's just ugly. In any case, it's a
Speaker 2: good job by Jesse arm and Jason Rantz and Noah
Speaker 2: Rothman right there. This is Tony Katz today. Lots and
Speaker 2: lots and lots of primary is going on this evening,
Speaker 2: and I just have no reason to think that the
Speaker 2: leftists won't go further and further and further left. Do you.
Speaker 2: I didn't think so, Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good
Speaker 2: to be with you. Minnesota primary. You've got that that
Speaker 2: Senate race. I have no reason to think that Peggy
Speaker 2: Flanagan isn't going to pull this out. The lieutenant governor,
Speaker 2: the one who wears a hit job and shows her
Speaker 2: love of Islamist, the one who wears t shirts that
Speaker 2: say protect trans kids and it's got a knife on
Speaker 2: it because she's totally down to be violent. I have
Speaker 2: no reason to think that it won't be her. You
Speaker 2: take a look at the polling in Wisconsin, the governor's race.
Speaker 2: I have no reason to think it isn't going to
Speaker 2: be Francesca hung and it's not going to go any
Speaker 2: other way. Somebody who believes in data center moratoriums at
Speaker 2: the first good Lord data center moratoriums. We may disagree
Speaker 2: on this, but can we at least agree that the
Speaker 2: moratorium is a terrible idea. I'll gladly dig into more
Speaker 2: of this. It's just madness. Oh also, she's a full
Speaker 2: on comedy supported by the DSA. I will have the
Speaker 2: results for you tomorrow. Everyone take care,