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Speaker 3: They're rotten. That side is awful, but you know what

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Speaker 3: Hey, good news, Casey. Yeah, what's up if you have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said that. Okay, he actually he compared it

441
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Speaker 2: to this is going to be the property tax issue

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Speaker 2: of this legislative session, okay.

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Speaker 1: And for quite a while now, Duke has had this

444
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Speaker 1: request in front of the governing body to say, we'd

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Speaker 1: like to raise everybody's rates. We want to get rid

446
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Speaker 1: of these coal coal powered plants and we want them

447
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Speaker 1: to become natural gas plants. The big thing is they

448
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Speaker 1: have to increase their capacity, almost triple their capacity, what

449
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Speaker 1: with the data centers and whatnot that we're subsidizing as taxpayers,

450
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Speaker 1: they need a lot of power.

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Speaker 3: So we got to come up with new power.

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Speaker 1: And so I guess we're going to subsidize them again,

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Speaker 1: because if you got approval, which we'll get to that

454
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Speaker 1: in a second, it would cause everybody's rates to go

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Speaker 1: way up. And so you would think this has been

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Speaker 1: in front of this commission for quite a while. There'd

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Speaker 1: been immense pushed back from the public, and the consumer

458
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Speaker 1: Advocate had said this isn't needed. You would think, because well,

459
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Speaker 1: the IURC has new appointments that are about to come on.

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Speaker 1: The Governor, who claims to be very against rate increases,

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Speaker 1: would have been emphatically in the last several weeks waving

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Speaker 1: hands saying, hey, we asked this committee hold off on this.

463
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Speaker 1: Right'll make any choices. We'll let the new people come on.

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Speaker 1: They got to live with the consequences, you know, please.

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Speaker 1: You'd also think the Lieutenant Governor has expressed grave concern

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Speaker 1: about this, would have done that, but not a word

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Speaker 1: from anybody. And then it came out yesterday, right before

468
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Speaker 1: these new people are about to come on, who have

469
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Speaker 1: been given very clear instructions by the Governor publicly to

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Speaker 1: not raise the rates. That the current u RC is

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Speaker 1: going to approve this massive rate increase for Duke to

472
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Speaker 1: expand and go to these natural gas facilities so that

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Speaker 1: the data centers can have power at our expense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So the Indiana regulivators they approved the three point

475
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Speaker 2: three billion dollar plan. Hey you mentioned did you? Did

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Speaker 2: you mention the financing costs? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, see, I guess I missed letter right now,

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Speaker 1: because that's plus financing costs.

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Speaker 3: It's three point three billion plus financing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The rate increases they're going to occur in six

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Speaker 2: month increments.

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Speaker 3: So you don't see it. It's like the it is

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Speaker 3: the mimize right shock.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well wait wait a second. Yeah, so this is

485
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Speaker 1: this is very important. This is the frog in the

486
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Speaker 1: boiling pot of water. They don't want to do it

487
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Speaker 1: at once because the people would be outraged. But if

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Speaker 1: they just raise your rates every six months, a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit here, a little bit there, Okay.

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Speaker 1: It is the point now where when I leave for

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Speaker 1: the day, take my daughter to daycare, et cetera, I

492
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Speaker 1: just turn the heat down in the house down. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I know it'll be cold when I get home, but

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Speaker 1: I'll just deal with it for a while. Because these

495
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Speaker 1: utilities are so totally out of control. I'll do that

496
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Speaker 1: in the summertime too. I'll crank it up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Then before she gets home, I'll try to turn it

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Speaker 1: back down. But because it's just freaking ridiculous and they

499
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Speaker 1: lied again, Bron didn't do anything to fight this. He

500
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Speaker 1: didn't do anything publicly to say, hey, you guys better

501
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Speaker 1: hang on. I'm politely asking you to please let the

502
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Speaker 1: new commission review this. They got to do it nothing.

503
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Speaker 1: He didn't do anything, and you know what they'll do.

504
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Speaker 1: So the utilities are fine. Duke's gonna be fine because

505
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Speaker 1: this little profit factory's going to keep getting their money.

506
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Speaker 1: And then Bron'll be able to say, well, that was

507
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Speaker 1: the old commission, the people I brought into it have

508
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Speaker 1: anything to do with it. Well, obviously this is a

509
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Speaker 1: long term plan to screw the rate payers. If you

510
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Speaker 1: have Duke and so, then Bron will just wipe his

511
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Speaker 1: hands up and go, well, we didn't raise those rates

512
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Speaker 1: that was before. Absolutely liar. The guy's a liar. He

513
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Speaker 1: lies about everything. He should be ashamed of himself, but

514
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Speaker 1: except he has no shame. So, if you're some kid

515
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Speaker 1: that goes trick or treating the governor's mansion tonight, or

516
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Speaker 1: you have a kid that goes that goes trigger to

517
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Speaker 1: the governor's mansion. You have a little junior knock on

518
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Speaker 1: the door and when I if that tire o old

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00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,479
Speaker 1: fool comes in answers, Now, I'd probably got a five

520
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Speaker 1: minutes where he's gonna do that.

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Speaker 3: But if he answers the door, you have a little juniors,

522
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Speaker 3: say Rob Kendall says, you should be ashamed of yourself

523
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Speaker 3: for screwing the taxpayers.

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Speaker 1: It'll be great on get it on tape.

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Speaker 3: We'll make you Internet famous.

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Speaker 2: Is that appropriate for a little kid to say, why.

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Speaker 1: Not he's screwing he's screwing their parents?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And then long term right.

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Speaker 1: Well right, yeah, I mean that's why when the year

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Speaker 1: when the you remember doctor box kynecologist. Was she still

532
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Speaker 1: here when you were here? Yeah? I remember. She was

533
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: the no experience whatsoever with pandemics or the public health

534
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: issue like COVID, But she was part of lockdown McGee's

535
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Speaker 1: you know regime there that was in charge of Now

536
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Speaker 1: remember she she's the woman who got COVID multiple times.

537
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: I never tested positive for COVID, but she was lecturing

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Speaker 1: me about appropriate behavior in public, even though she got

539
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Speaker 1: COVID multiple times. She's the woman who was finger wagging

540
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Speaker 1: at people about putting on your mask in public, and

541
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Speaker 1: then was photographed.

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Speaker 3: At her kids wedding not wearing a mask, and she.

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Speaker 1: Was finger wagging after she had already gone to that

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Speaker 1: wedding without a mask. Now, of course then we got

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Speaker 1: the photo then. You know, it's sort of like when

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Speaker 1: we kept saying there's a grand jury investigating the Lieutenant

547
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Speaker 1: Governor's office, and then everybody was screaming, no, there wasn't.

548
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Speaker 1: And then it came out that the Lieutenant Governor's office

549
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Speaker 1: is under a Marion Kenny grand jury investigation. People didn't say, hey, Rob,

550
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: you're right, I'm sorry. They screamed, how did Rob Kendall know?

551
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: We demand an investigation into how Rob Kendall knew about.

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Speaker 3: The grand jury.

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Speaker 1: She didn't say, I'm sorry that I was a complete

554
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Speaker 1: nutter hypocrite. I'm sorry that I was lecturing to you

555
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Speaker 1: while I knew I had just gone to this large

556
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Speaker 1: public event or not public event, but an event with

557
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Speaker 1: a large amount of people, and I didn't have my

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Speaker 1: mask on. You know what they said, We demand to

559
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Speaker 1: know how Rob Kendall got that photo? Did we demand

560
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Speaker 1: to know who gave you that photo of that wedding

561
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Speaker 1: that showed me being.

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Speaker 3: A complete hypocrite? This is what these politics.

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Speaker 2: Outrage of the act, but outrage that you.

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Speaker 1: M it's happening again with michah Beckwhitt's office. His orbit

565
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: is not mad and going, hey man, what did this

566
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 1: guy do that potentially put his office under investigation or

567
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: potentially do or what what has caused this this grand

568
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: jury investigation. They're not curious at all about that. They're

569
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Speaker 1: not looking into Well, Rob has said this for months.

570
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: Is there some smoke?

571
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: You know?

572
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: Is there some fire here with this the smoke? Why

573
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: are they looking into its? No, we're mad that Rob

574
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: was proven right and there is this grand jury investigation.

575
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: And same thing with the doctor Box got of collogist.

576
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Speaker 1: They weren't mad that she was a complete nutter hypocrite.

577
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: They weren't mad that the hypocrisy of that woman who

578
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: knew she'd been at that wedding without a mask, finger

579
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: wagging at you about wearing your mask. They were mad

580
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: that they got caught anyway. I don't even know how

581
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: he got off onto.

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Speaker 4: That same thing with bra Oh sorry, I just I

583
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 4: just wanted to remind her aboudy one final time going

584
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Speaker 4: into the weekend that for months we were right, and

585
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Speaker 4: people screamed at us.

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Speaker 1: And and there is a maybe it's your water cooler

587
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: or you know on Monday or your a weekend conversation

588
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: at the football games. You can get into how there's

589
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: a grand jury investigating the lieutenant governor's office that he

590
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: said wasn't happening.

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Speaker 2: President Donald Trump called on US military leaders to resume

592
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Speaker 2: nuclear weapons testing to match programs in Russia and China.

593
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Speaker 2: He posted this before his meeting was jijingpin in South Korea.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we should all get along. By the way, we

595
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: need to test some nuclear weapons. That's a great strekeery.

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Speaker 3: So why did he do that?

597
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Speaker 2: Was that just I'm want to put this out here

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Speaker 2: before I meet with China as just a thread or

599
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: let him know where we stand.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a flex, right, yeah, but is it a

601
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: smart flex?

602
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 3: I mean, the American America.

603
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Speaker 1: Made a decision whatever it's been now fifty plus years

604
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Speaker 1: ago with Nixon, that we were going to engage the Chinese,

605
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: and part of us engaging the Chinese and on a

606
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: commercial level, allowed them to grow stronger. And let's face it,

607
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: we engage age knowingly with China because we all we all,

608
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Speaker 1: you know, the we bitch and we moan and we

609
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: scream or the politicians do about human rights violations in China.

610
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Speaker 1: Yet we keep buying stuff from China, and we chose

611
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: to engage with China. Let's just be honest. It's just us, Casey.

612
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: Nobody else is listening. We chose to engage with China

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Speaker 1: because we know about their human rights violations and we know,

614
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 1: we knew, we know to this day that they are

615
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: able to make stuff that we can buy cheaper than

616
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: if we made it here because they play at best

617
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: fast and loose with how workers should be treated. And

618
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Speaker 1: so there is this like hipocrisy amongst these politicians who

619
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Speaker 1: for decades and I'm not lumping Trump into this because

620
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Speaker 1: I think he got has tried to get tough with China.

621
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Speaker 1: But these these senators, these congressmen to some extent, these

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Speaker 1: presidents who who on one end criticized China's human rights

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Speaker 1: but then continue to engage in a commercial transactional type

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Speaker 1: relationship that allowed them to continue to operate in that

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Speaker 1: in that.

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Speaker 2: Manner right and now each it made the huge soybean

627
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Speaker 2: deal with them. Well, we are a's continuing.

628
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: We are addicted to cheap stuff in this country, and

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Speaker 1: they're you know, I'm not gonna get on some moral

630
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: high horse and go that's dead wrong, because I'm sure

631
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: every day I buy something that was made in China

632
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Speaker 1: or in some way engage in And I don't shop

633
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: all that much, but my wife might buy something right right,

634
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: not in any way try and every other person does too.

635
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: When you go to the Walmart.

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Speaker 1: Now, if it's not China, it's some other, you know,

637
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: country that probably has similar human rights, you know, worker rights,

638
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: worker regulations to China. So I'm not gonna get in

639
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: on some moral high horse and finger waggoning. Unlike the

640
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: lady who didn't wear the mask in her son's wedding

641
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: and they told you what to do, I'm not saying that.

642
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying that's the conversation we have to have as

643
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: a country to decide what we're going to do going forward.

644
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: You can get tough with China, you can punish China.

645
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: You can force them on some level to get better.

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00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: It won't fix it all the way, but you can

647
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: on some level force them to get better. At worker

648
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: rights and what they pay people in the conditions they live.

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00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: You're going to pay more for stuff. If you wanted

650
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: to be made in this country, you're gonna pay more

651
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: for it. Are you willing to do that? And it's

652
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Speaker 1: going to be a lot more.

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting here looking at you, and I'm thinking, you

654
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Speaker 2: know what, you're probably wearing clothes that were made in China,

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Speaker 2: probably for your headphones that you're currently using.

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Speaker 1: Possibly That's why I don't get on a moral high

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Speaker 1: worse when it comes to China and say you must

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Speaker 1: da da da da da da da. I don't do that.

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Speaker 1: I say you can. I say I am willing to

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Speaker 1: pay more if we choose to do that. But you

661
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Speaker 1: also don't see me sitting here every day making it

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Speaker 1: issue number one, because I'm probably guilty of it, as

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Speaker 1: is every single other American.

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Speaker 3: In regards to.

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Speaker 2: The nuclear testing, the last time the US conducted a

666
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Speaker 2: nuclear test was September twenty third, nineteen ninety two, at

667
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Speaker 2: the Nevada Test site, and it was called Divider. A

668
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Speaker 2: moratorium was issued by George HW. Bush after the Cold War.

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Speaker 3: Though, so we're back, that's what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: I guess threats we're so back, we're back, or we're

671
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Speaker 2: threatening to be back. I did want to play this

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Speaker 2: audio before where we get into break. This was on

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Speaker 2: Air Force one. They hit some turbulence. This is Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump over Asia and Donald Trump, of course immediately trolling

675
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Speaker 2: the media, which I thought was funny, discuss.

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Speaker 1: Basically he's a rough Wins in Asia said, this is

677
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Speaker 1: a rough flight.

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Speaker 3: You coulda waited an hour.

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Speaker 1: Maybe this is a little tough. Uh, this had tough

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Speaker 1: conditions for interviews.

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00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 3: You know they're gonna be watching Trump.

682
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Speaker 1: They gonna say he didn't look too good.

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Speaker 3: He's got the shakes.

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Speaker 2: I don't have the shakes, but people wouldna think, I dollies,

685
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Speaker 2: are you freek Isn't that true?

686
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 4: Though?

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Speaker 2: He's he's bopping around because of turbulence, and some reporter

688
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: out there is going, oh, he was shaking, No, he

689
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Speaker 2: was gravity.

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Speaker 1: I wonder how far Air Force one could fly without

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Speaker 1: having to refuel. Probably look that up.

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Speaker 3: I'll look that up.

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Speaker 2: Can they do mid air refueling on Air Force one?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We'll look that up. To eat the break, that'll give

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Speaker 3: you a reason to stick around.

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Speaker 2: It's Kenderly Casey on ninety three WYBC.

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Speaker 3: Wall time.

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Speaker 2: I'm in a New York state of mind.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So just a second, we're gonna have a little

701
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Speaker 1: conversation about if a politician cannot identify songs very associated

702
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Speaker 1: with their state, is that a big deal or is

703
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: that a no big deal? But first to answer the

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Speaker 1: question which we posed before I went to break, we

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Speaker 1: were talking about Air Force one. Trump was in Asia

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Speaker 1: and he was on this you know, sort of rocky flight.

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Speaker 1: No one was there right any danger, and so they

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Speaker 1: got me wondering how far can Air Force one fly

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Speaker 1: without having to refuel? And then you had pose can

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Speaker 1: it air refuel? And so the answer is without stopping

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Speaker 1: fifteen to seventeen hours? Can you fly across the world

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Speaker 1: in fifteen to seventeen hours? Can you make it? Is

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Speaker 1: there anywhere you couldn't make it too?

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Speaker 2: Isn't like from New York to Tokyo? That law?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's I'm asking you. Obviously, I don't

716
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Speaker 1: ever leave my.

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Speaker 2: Probably get halfway around the world.

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Speaker 3: keV.

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Speaker 1: You think you can make it around the world in

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Speaker 1: seventeen hours, you've traveled everywhere.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you could.

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Speaker 3: No, I think it would take a little longer.

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Speaker 1: Really all right, let me let me look at this

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Speaker 1: up here real quick, Like.

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Speaker 2: Flights to Australia take almost twenty four Oh really, yeah,

726
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Speaker 2: that's a fourteen hour flight from LA to Australia.

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Speaker 1: Right, How long does it take across the world? How

728
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Speaker 1: long does it take to fly across the world?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Okay, it takes roughly forty two This according to the

731
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Speaker 1: AI overview, which, of course this would never be wrong.

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Speaker 1: Forty two hours a pure flight time to fly around

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Speaker 1: the world in a standard commercial jet. Okay, so, but

734
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Speaker 1: they said the actual time to be fifty sixty with

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Speaker 1: the layovers. But if you just gotten a plane and flew,

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Speaker 1: it would be forty two hours. So no, held, you

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Speaker 1: could not fly around the world. However it does now.

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Speaker 1: They said it normally would never do that because you

739
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Speaker 1: have to actually the Air Force one requires a ton

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Speaker 1: of lubrication because of the size of it.

741
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Speaker 3: No laugh, family program. Sure, yeah, you keep your head

742
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Speaker 3: head in the game, sister.

743
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Speaker 2: Keep going.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, we're so close, and so it normally would

745
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Speaker 1: not do that anyway, But yes, it said it can

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Speaker 1: air refuel, so it would not have to land.

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Speaker 2: If it wouldn't have to stop now you could get

748
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Speaker 2: on the new NASA supersonic jet, which is called Son

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Speaker 2: of Concord.

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Speaker 1: Oh sounds very underne and you could.

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Speaker 2: Get there a lot quicker around the world. How fast, well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how fast, but quicker than what would

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Speaker 2: you say, forty two hours.

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Speaker 1: Forty two hours thirty two hours standard commercial jet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's a new development from Lockheed Martin

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Speaker 2: and NASA. They just debuted it had its first test flight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Son of Concord two hundred and forty seven million dollar plane.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Well, no, yeah, okay, anyway, so real quick, mom, Donnie.

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Speaker 1: He's this this uber socialist guy running for mayor of

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Speaker 1: New York.

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Speaker 2: Thirty three year old. He's the front runner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he got so he came to this country. There's

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Speaker 1: some kind of misconceptions about him. It looks like he

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Speaker 1: came to this country in nineteen ninety eight. He was

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Speaker 1: born in Uganda. His parents are Indian, I think, and

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Speaker 1: some people tried to make it out like he just

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Speaker 1: got here in twenty eighteen. I think maybe that's when

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Speaker 1: he got national naturalized as a citizen. Sure he'd been

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Speaker 1: in this country. I don't think he was like hiding

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Speaker 1: in the shadows either I think people knew out of

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Speaker 1: various visas or whatever. And so he had been He's

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Speaker 1: been in this country for quite a while. There was

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Speaker 1: some misconception about that. But anyway, he got asked.

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Speaker 2: About it on some he is on Trackstar podcast.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and he got asked about a bunch of songs,

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Speaker 1: and it's the thing where they play the song, you

778
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Speaker 1: got to name the song, and he could not name

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Speaker 1: New York State of Mind by Billy Joel, which obviously

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Speaker 1: is totally associated with the city and state of New York,

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Speaker 1: but it's also a very prominent song and is it

782
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Speaker 1: a big deal? Then the guy couldn't name the song

783
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Speaker 1: that's so closely associated with your state.

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Speaker 2: Well, he failed to recognize the song based on the

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Speaker 2: opening piano notes. I don't know if I would be

786
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Speaker 2: able to do that, but I'm also not a New Yorker.

787
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Speaker 2: I feel like that would be like asking me if

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Speaker 2: I could identify hang On Sloopy by the McCoy's, which

789
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Speaker 2: is an Ohio song, or but you could do by

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Speaker 2: Melon Camp I could do that, or Main Street from

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Speaker 2: Bob Segert.

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Speaker 1: All right, like keV, like the moment you hear the

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Speaker 1: opening chorus to small Town, like, can you queue that

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Speaker 1: up for us? Could you do that?

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Speaker 3: I mean everybody would know that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if you play the opening or even Pink Houses,

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Speaker 1: even though that's not directly Indiana.

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Speaker 3: Small town is okay, here we.

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Speaker 2: Go, you know right away. And if you couldn't identify that,

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Speaker 2: that would not be a good life, especially if you're

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Speaker 2: running for mayor of Indian Apples.

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00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: Well, rais is the question.

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Speaker 1: If we did that with Mike Braun, could he identify

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Speaker 1: the open course opening course to small Town? I say no,

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00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think you could do it.

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00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: I think if you sat him down here right now

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00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: and he had heard that and he said name that song,

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00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: he couldn't do it. I think that guy is that

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00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: aloof that. He could not identify small.

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00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if he could or not.

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Speaker 1: Well, we send your time hammer, Nigel give him a beer.

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00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: He stares at it like it's some sort of alien

813
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: rock that he was given.

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00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 3: Remember they asked him like, what are you drinking?

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Speaker 1: He's like, I got a blueberry white and the other

816
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Speaker 1: day it was fabulous.

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00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 2: I have a bourbon.

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Speaker 1: Well then we ask him that and he said they

819
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: asked him, and he said something like he drinks was

820
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: it Mick Ultra or.

821
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: Something, you know, and every man's beer. So it's just

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Speaker 2: your average joke kind of beer.

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Speaker 1: So would you be surprised if he couldn't? If Braun

824
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: could not name the opening course to small town?

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00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: Certainly, hope.

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Speaker 3: So the opening cords to small town?

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00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: Now could Joe hog Set identify it? Because Donnie is

828
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: running from mayor of New York City, so let's look

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Speaker 2: to our mayor of Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think with hogg Set it would depend on

831
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Speaker 1: what hour of the day it is and what he's

832
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Speaker 1: been doing all day.

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00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 2: He's not only kind of name it.

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Speaker 3: I'll say it too.

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Speaker 2: This is carry okey hour.

836
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 3: I read it from something.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know, Mom, Donnie should have been able

838
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: to identify that.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of a big deal, right, that's your city.

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Speaker 3: It's the city you live at.

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Speaker 1: The Billie Joles obviously so closely assissy with New York. Yeah,

842
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: I think that's a big deal. But I think that's

843
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: the least of the big deals we're gonna have with

844
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: this guy when he comes to Bear.

845
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, all right, that's gonna do it. For

846
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: us today.

847
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: He hasn't even start the music.

848
00:37:59,080 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: I know, but he's going to.

849
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: Oh you want to go, that's your thing.

850
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: You're done, you're tapping out. You're Anthony Richardson, we're here,

851
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: You're Saint Rob.

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00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: Save the rest of the show. All right, I got it, Casey,

853
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: I'll take it. It'll be fine.

854
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 3: You've got enough.

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00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: That'll do it for us today. Great job until the end,

856
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: Casey keV. Fabulous job, as always was immortally thank you

857
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: to you. Without you, there is no US stick around

858
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Speaker 1: Tony Katz. Coming up next, Kennley Casey Show eighty three,

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Speaker 1: WIBC