1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Lie from Ball, Heartliner and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: My family and I have known for years that there 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: are costs to standing up to Donald Trump, but we 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way. We will not 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: live on our knees, and you shouldn't either. Somebody that 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: of a tyrant, and she's right. But I'm not afraid, 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: and I hope you're not either. I hope instead you 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: are engaged, You are paying attention, and you will vote 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: like your beloved country depends upon it, which it does. 12 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: My heart is broken for the Department of Justice, but 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: I have great confidence in the federal judicial system and 14 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: I'm innocent. 15 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:04,119 Speaker 2: So let's have a trial. Yes, yes, James Tomy, Let's 16 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: have a trial with your broken heart and see if 17 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: you lied and obstructed justice. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, 18 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: good to be with you. Find everything at Tony Katz 19 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: dot com. You can email me Tony atonykats dot com, 20 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: on the Twitter x Tony Katz, Instagram Tony Katz. That's 21 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 2: James Comy, lying and obstruction of justice, unless, of course, 22 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: you want to hear how CNN describes the indictment. This 23 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: is CNN Breaking News. 24 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: And we are following major breaking news tonight. Is former 25 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: FBI director James Comy is now the first senior government 26 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: official to face charges in one of President Trump's biggest grievances, 27 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: the twenty sixteen Russia investigation. 28 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: Is that why he's facing charges or is he facing 29 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: charges because he lied to Congress. Notice that's Caitlyn Collins 30 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: right there, not reporting the news, but reporting a narrative. 31 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: That's what it sounds like, because that ten thousand percent 32 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: is exactly what it is. Catherine Herridge, who has been 33 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: all around this, and she posted this a while ago. 34 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: When first you take a look at the indictment itself, 35 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: falsely stating to a US centator. This is count one, 36 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: falsely stating to a US senator during a Senate Judiciary 37 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: committee hearing that he James Comy, had not quote authorized 38 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: someone else of the FBI to be an anonymous source 39 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: in news reports. And then count two obstruction quote did 40 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: corruptly endeavor to influence, obstruct, and impede. Right, That's that's 41 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: what the basics of the indictment is. But it was 42 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: this and this was she put this back in August 43 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: when Tulsea Gabbard was releasing information, Catherine Herridge released this 44 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: regarding Chuck Grassley in his Q and A back in 45 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. Chuck Grassley, the Senator from Iowa, with James Comy. 46 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 4: Listen, Director Comy, have you ever been an anonymous source 47 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 4: in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation 48 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 4: or the Clinton investigation? 49 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: Never? 50 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 4: Question two one, relatively related, Have you ever authorized someone 51 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in 52 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 4: news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation? Now, 53 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 4: has any classified information relating to President Trump or his 54 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 4: association associates been declassified and shared with the media. 55 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: Not to my knowledge. 56 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: So that's James Comy in twenty seventeen saying that there 57 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: were no eleaks, there was never an anonymous source in 58 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: news reports, that he's never been in anonymous source authoring 59 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: somebody else to be an anonymous source, except there are 60 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: that Herridge had pointed out conversations from him where this 61 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 2: was discussed getting information to the New York Times. Now, 62 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: this is a great, great bit of information here because 63 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: the charges are coming now. In twenty twenty five. This 64 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: is twenty seventeen. Wait a second, I thought the charges 65 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: had to come by September thirtieth, because what we had 66 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: was a statute of imitations. Follow this. This is really 67 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: good from Twitchy right here. So what happened was was 68 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: that Ted Cruz September thirtieth, twenty twenty. Comy is in 69 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: front of this Senate committee, he states to James Comy 70 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: on May third, twenty seventeen. That's when you heard kmy. 71 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: That's when he gave this testimony in this committee. Chairman 72 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: Chuck Grastuley asked you, point blank, have you ever been 73 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: in an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating 74 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 2: to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation? You responded 75 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: under oath never. He then asked you, have you ever 76 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous 77 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the 78 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: Clinton administration? You responded again under oath no. Ted Cruz continues, Now, 79 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: as you know, mister McCabe, who works for you as 80 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: pub m LeAnn repeatedly stated that he leaked information to 81 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal and that you were directly aware 82 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 2: of it, and that you directly authorized it now, states 83 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: Senator Cruz, quote, what mister McCay is saying and what 84 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: you testified to this committee cannot both be true. One 85 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: or the other is false. Who's telling the truth? To 86 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: which James Comey responds and I quote, I can only 87 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 2: speak to my testimony. I stand by the testimony you 88 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: summarize that I gave in May of twenty seventeen. He 89 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 2: did that on September thirtieth, twenty twenty, therefore reintroducing it 90 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: into the record. So the statute of limitations expires five 91 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: years from that moment, which would be on September thirtieth, 92 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 2: and that's why the charges can come now, Okay, come on, 93 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. He got him on 94 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: the record to do that. And when you go through 95 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: the kind of testimony that people like Katlin Herritge have 96 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: gone through, it's very clear, at least to me, from that, 97 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: maybe more information can come out that there is something 98 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: reasonable to the idea that Komy leaked this information and 99 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: had information leaked. Do I oppose the investigation into James Comy, 100 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: Oh gosh no. Do I think Kmey is a smarmy guy? 101 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 5: Oh? 102 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely I do. But being smarmy doesn't mean necessarily that 103 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: you get investigated. It doesn't mean that at all. I mean, 104 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: his statement is just so gross. My heart is broken. 105 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: I knew you'd have to fight for what you believe in. 106 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: My family's always known this, and that's why you have 107 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: to go vote. That's why we voted for Trump, and 108 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: this is what we voted for. CNN wants to say, 109 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: this is all grudge and this is all retribution, and 110 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: this is all grievance. You mean, there's no possibility that 111 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: James we did something wrong. When you go after Trump, 112 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: he's one hundred percent guilty, no matter. Why are you 113 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: even asking? What do you mean? You're fighting this? But 114 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: when we've got the data as I just shared it, 115 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: that at least opens the door for the infraction not invented. 116 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: There's no show me the man and I'll show you 117 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: the crime there it is. There's enough there, and grand 118 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: jury thought there was enough there. Then all of a sudden, 119 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: it's grievance hunting. You're right about the fact that a 120 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: Biden or Harris administration would never have gone forward with 121 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: this because they don't care if you lie to Congress 122 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: if it helps them. They don't care if you lie, 123 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: but I think we should care if you lie. I 124 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 2: think we should think it wrong if you lie. I 125 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 2: think we should deal with people who lie, and I 126 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 2: think there should be consequences. You lie in a court, 127 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: you lie to Congress, if you're under oath, that's an 128 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: issue and we can't take it. Lie down. But no, 129 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: CNN they call it. It's Trump's biggest grievance. I understand 130 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: that people didn't like Trump's post on truth social that 131 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 2: justice in America. One of the worst human beings of 132 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: this country has ever been exposed to is James Comey, 133 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: the former corrupt head of the FBI. Today, he was 134 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 2: indicted by a grand jury on two felony counts, writes 135 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: President Trump quote for various legal and lawful acts. He 136 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: has been so bad for our country for so long 137 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: and is now at the beginning of being held responsible 138 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: for his crimes against our nation. And then he ended 139 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: it with make America great again. I get that people 140 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: look at that and they see it as a victory dance. 141 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:47,119 Speaker 2: Ten percent. Did you see the glee over the second impeachment? 142 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 2: Did you see the glee over all of the indictments, 143 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: all of them absolute failures? You want to talk about grievances, 144 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 2: but always remember that everything they did to Trump had 145 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: nothing to do with Trump. I mean, he's the one 146 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 2: who dealt with it, and he dealt with it in 147 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: an incredible way, but it always had to deal with you. 148 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: You are the one they are angry at. You are 149 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: the one they are upset with. You're the one who 150 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: didn't listen to them. You're the one who voted for 151 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: this guy when they told you you can't, that you shouldn't, 152 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: that you mustn't. They're the ones who told you you're 153 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: a racist and you're a bigot, and you're a sexist 154 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: and you're a xenophobe if you vote for him, and 155 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: you did it anyway. They're the ones who told you 156 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 2: you have to vote for this black woman, you have 157 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 2: to vote for this old man, you have to do 158 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 2: for this, and you didn't listen, and they hate you 159 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: for it. And that's why they go after people like 160 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,599 Speaker 2: Trump and anybody who aligns his way, and people like 161 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: Komy lying in front of Congress based on a whole 162 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: bunch of data should get a pass. No, maybe we're 163 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: actually seeing the Justice Department engaged justice for the first 164 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: time in four years. I think that's a worthy take. 165 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz Tony Kats today. Have you seen this video. 166 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 2: This was the wife of a guy who got detained 167 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: by Ice and she's yelling at what I assume as 168 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: an ICE agent. He's got the badge around his neck, 169 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: he's wearing a flannel, he's wearing a baseball cap. And 170 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: this is this is what happens. Listen, and kids are 171 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: crying and people are upset, and there's yelling because she 172 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: walked up to him. He then pushed her. She then 173 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: went to the He puts you to the ground. She 174 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 2: also tripped him, but you're gonna say he puts you 175 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: to the ground. Then he pushes her aside and lets 176 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: the other security there remove her. He's saying audios. She's 177 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: yelling at him. That's what's happening in the video. And 178 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 2: then he touches She touches him. He pushes her into 179 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: the wall, then keeps pushing her. She trips over a 180 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: doorway and then goes goes down and he pushed her 181 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: to the ground. So this video is getting a tremendous 182 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: amount of play. My gosh, look what ice agents are doing. 183 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 2: All I have is this video and in this video 184 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,359 Speaker 2: we can see two things. A woman who is screaming, 185 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: yelling at law enforcement and put her hands on law enforcement, 186 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: and a law enforcement by the way she put her 187 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 2: hands on law enforcement more than once. She's trying to 188 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: enter room that she can't. And then you see this 189 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: guy absolutely pushing in man handling her. Both parts should 190 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 2: be taken in equal measure. And I'm not interested in 191 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: excusing the pushing of this woman to the ground when 192 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 2: you could have gone in the room putting your hands 193 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: on the law enforcement agent. In what world law enforcement officer, sorry, 194 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 2: my ice agent, law enforcement officer, I came up with 195 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: law enforcement agent. That's not the right terminology. There's in 196 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: no world that this gets accepted. None, absolutely none. I 197 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: know this from hearing about the people who told me 198 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: about January sixth, So that you can't be putting your 199 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 2: hands on anybody in law enforcement like this woman did, 200 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 2: who was screaming and yelling and screaming young in Spanish, 201 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: and her kids are there. I mean, the whole thing 202 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 2: is it's an ugly scene. You don't want to see this, 203 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: you don't want this. It's it is absolutely possible that 204 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: other building security could have gotten involved and escorted this 205 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: woman outside. It is very, very possible that this guy 206 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: could have gone into a room that was behind him, 207 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: where the door was open and there were other law 208 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: enforcement there, very visible, very easy to see. It is 209 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: very possible that this guy's emotions got the best of 210 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: him and he is going to need to be reprimanded. 211 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: Two things can happen at the same time. We can 212 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: absolutely support the deportation of illegal immigrants, no matter how 213 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: much the wife yells and screams and cries and catterwalls. 214 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: That is not something that supplants the law which says 215 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: you cannot be in the country illegally. And we can 216 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: also say, dude, ain't. None of that was necessary, was absolutely, 217 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: positively not necessary. Now someone else could say to me, Tony, 218 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: law enforcement practice dictates this, and therefore he was following 219 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 2: a certain set of rules, a certain set of conditions. 220 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: Someone could say to me, Tony, law enforcement practice states this, 221 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: and this guy did not do those things worthy conversation. 222 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: Never once would I make the assumption that Ice is 223 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: above some type of conversation about practices. Remember, if you're 224 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: talking about covering the face, this guy doesn't have his 225 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: face covered. I have no problem with covering the face. 226 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: You have these leftists who want to kill ICE agents. 227 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: They want to kill the ICE agent. Of course, they're 228 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: going to protect themselves from dockxing and all sorts of things. 229 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: This guy is face is right there to see, and 230 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: I'm assuming there's going to be some kind of punishment 231 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: that comes down the lad line from it, because we 232 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: hold the people in law enforcement to a higher standard. 233 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: By the way, when the woman gets back up, she's 234 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: still going at this guy, and he has to push 235 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: her to where these three security guards are so they 236 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: can now escort her out of the building. She pressed 237 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: up against him, touched him repeatedly, repeatedly. So I'm not 238 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: going to excuse that, and I'm not necessarily going to 239 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: excuse his actions either. I'm going to leave it to 240 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: ICE that. I'm going to leave it to others to 241 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: determine the properness there. How does it look court a 242 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: public opinion time? Oh, it looks really bad. It looks 243 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: really really bad. Now you can spin it. Well, man, 244 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: it's clear ICE is not going to take this garbage. 245 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take you screaming and yelling at them or 246 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: anything like that. You're not allowed to push on them 247 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: and on them absolutely positively not. But how it's going 248 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: to be seen is, dude, dude, you were just angry, 249 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: You got infuriated, and you lost control of your emotions. 250 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 2: Now you're gonna lose your gig. Now you're gonna lose 251 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: your gig. Something's gonna happen. You lost control. And I 252 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 2: would actually argue that ICE should make that decision, because 253 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 2: you shouldn't accept things that are outside the realm of 254 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: your own standards and practices. You should be the one 255 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 2: upholding them. Don't worry about what the left does. Let 256 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: me give you an example. Did I say this when 257 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: members of Congress were pushing and screaming and shoving and 258 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 2: going at ICE officials like lemon Ka mc iver there 259 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: in New Jersey. She should have been expelled from Congress, 260 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: by the way. Shamefully, she wasn't weak stuff, Speaker Johnson 261 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: weak stuff pushing back on her. You didn't see me 262 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: having an issue with any of that. Look what she 263 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: was doing. I do think this is going to play 264 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 2: much much differently because that was a member of Congress 265 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: clearly invested and involved in a political stunt. This is 266 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 2: a distraught wife. That's how plays. That's how it plays, 267 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: so I won't be surprised that Ice does say something 268 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 2: here and do something here. You can't lose control of 269 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 2: your emotions, as a guy who has done it before 270 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: in his life. I'm just here to give some practical 271 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: advice and I think he's going to deal with the consequences. 272 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: But the idea that people think that they can push 273 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 2: at a law enforcement and scream and yell and attack 274 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: and nothing's going to happen. Nope, Nope, that ain't gonna 275 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: work either. This is a distraught woman. There should have 276 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: been three or four people there to escort her out 277 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: as opposed to this one guy having to deal with it. 278 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: But I think he lost control of his emotions and 279 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have to deal with that, and 280 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: I think I should want him to have to deal 281 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: with that. They're going to have to make some move 282 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: about this, because the argument you don't want to make 283 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: to America is we'll rough you up if you cry. 284 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: The argument you want to make is our job is 285 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: to get a legal immigrants off the streets, and we're 286 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: doing that. That's the whole I mean, that's it, that's 287 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 2: where it ends. That's our job people are gonna cry, 288 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: people are gonna be upset. We have to manage those emotions. 289 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: But it won't ever let us not do the job. 290 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 2: It won't ever stop us from doing the job. We'll 291 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: see how they respond. I'm Tony Katz. 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This is good and valuable 302 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: and important and they are. And yet we still have 303 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: people out there who want to tell you that these 304 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: group of so called anti fascists, Uh, they're they're not 305 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: a problem. It was it was Joe Biden who told 306 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 2: you it's it's an idea, it's it's not a group. 307 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: Told told you this lied to you, without question, lied 308 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 2: to you. And then there are people, I think it 309 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: was Dan Goldman, the congressman from New York, was like, well, well, 310 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: show me, show me one of these people, show me 311 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 2: one of these Antifa people. Well, they're masked up and 312 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: everything else, and they're destroying property and going after immigrations 313 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 2: and customs and enforcement agents and going after other law enforcement. 314 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 2: And we know now that when it comes to this. 315 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: You've got the guy who was shooting at ICE agents 316 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: in Dallas. Oh, well, he killed a detainee. He didn't 317 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: kill anything from ICE. You don't know what that was about. 318 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: You don't have a motive. These people are, of course certifiable. 319 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: Of course we have the motive. We have now the information, 320 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: handwritten notes recovered that read quote. Hopefully this will give 321 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 2: ICE agents real terror to think, is there a sniper 322 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: with armor piercing rounds on that roof. The objective was 323 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: to go after ICE agents. The objective was to instill 324 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: fear into ICE agents. And this guy was using those 325 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: apps that they tracked ICE agents with. That's what he 326 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: was doing. He's been planning something like this for months 327 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: and then looked into what happened regarding the Charlie Kirk 328 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 2: assassination and tried to learn from that. The violence of 329 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: the left goes without saying. That is not a discounting 330 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: of any violence that happens on the political right. It 331 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 2: is a saying of you have over the years demanded this. 332 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: Now you're getting what you demand. And you'll note there 333 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: is no real push at all from any leftist leadership 334 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: to make it stop. Antifa doesn't exist. Show me somebody 335 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 2: who's part of Antifa. That's the proof. That's the proof. 336 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: ICE agents get shot at. And the left says, well, 337 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: look at what ICE is doing. Look at what ICE 338 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: is doing. They're doing their job. Here's just a small list. 339 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: This was from over at Newsmax, Mark Swanson reporting, you 340 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 2: have members of an Antifa cell ambushing officers and an 341 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: ICE facility in Albaredo, Texas, shooting one in the neck. 342 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: That was July three. Antifa members charged with assaulting a 343 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: police officer during a violent riot outside an ICE saility 344 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: in Portland. This is just the stuff with ICE, but 345 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 2: more on Antifa. A transgender ANTIFA supporter allegedly detonating an 346 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: explosive outside the office of Alabama's Republican attorney general. That's 347 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: February of twenty twenty four. July of twenty twenty Antifa 348 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: members linked to a group called James Revenge firebomb pro 349 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: life centers, vandalizing churches. Do we not talk about the 350 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: vandalizing of churches anymore? Canada has had this issue churches 351 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: being set on fire. January of twenty twenty two, suspected 352 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 2: Antifa member arrested for bringing her pipe bomb to a 353 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 2: pro Trump event. Then you have an Antifa supporter threatening 354 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 2: to shoot police officers and Trump supporters outside of the 355 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 2: Florida Capital, and then, of course you can name nine 356 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: million other issues that took place during the George Floyd riot. Times. 357 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 2: Antifa is a terrorist organization and their objective is to 358 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 2: destroy America. Now, somebody might ask, and I think that 359 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: this question is foolhardy at this stage of the game, 360 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 2: what are their politics? I put forth to you that 361 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: the Antifa member has no politics. The person who wants 362 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: to burn it all down is not interested in your ideology. 363 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: The person who wants to burn it all down wants 364 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 2: to know if you brought matches, that's it. The Antifa member, 365 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 2: the anarchist, if that's what we're gonna call it. They 366 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: want to watch it burn. That's all they care about. 367 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 2: And if it all burned down, if they were able 368 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 2: to burn down Western civilization and bring about their non 369 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: possible pseudo intellectual fever dream communist utopia, they would then 370 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 2: work to burn that down too. They can't help themselves. 371 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: This is who they are. When you have nothing, when 372 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: you have no soul, when you have no purpose, when 373 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: you have no focus, when you cannot find joy, when 374 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: you cannot see quite seriously and easily that one thing 375 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: is better than another, that somehow everything has to be destroyed, 376 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: because destroying is what makes you feel alive. If only temporarily, 377 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,479 Speaker 2: then you will destroy it. Now, when the communism is here, 378 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: they're gonna have a much harder time destroying because they're 379 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 2: all going to be in gulags are dead. But neither 380 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: here nor there, they will still want to destroy. Our 381 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 2: issue is clearly a cultural one. In that regard, the 382 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 2: ANTIFA member has no core, has no value system none. 383 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: I mean this goes to the idea of being anti capitalist. 384 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: You know how sad and ridiculous you have to be 385 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: to be anti capitalist, And I mean that sad and ridiculous. 386 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: And you might say well, toty, you're not get get 387 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: anywhere from name calling. If that's the worst name calling, 388 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: well then my god, which everybody's gotten very tepid all 389 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: of a sudden. Capitalism allows people to make choices. Capitalism 390 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: allows people to thrive. Capitalism pulls people out of poverty, 391 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: and capitalism enables options. And no system that they consider 392 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: provides that much good. There is not good being provided 393 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 2: for utilizing any of the plans from Bernie Sanders. They're 394 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: just not. Bernie Sanders' entire plan is the use of 395 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: the barrel of the gun to take And if he 396 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: says to me, we're not doing that, We're just passing laws, 397 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: my case is rested. I get that we're a nation 398 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: of laws, and I like that we're a nation of laws. 399 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 2: Are we going to question whether or not government is forced? 400 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: Government is force always and at all times, which is 401 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 2: why I favor the minimum amount of government, the minimum 402 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: amount to achieve the maxim amount of liberty. This is 403 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 2: again a conversation about liberty versus freedom. Forgive me excuse 404 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 2: me there. I'm a believer in liberty. The freedom society 405 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: doesn't have as many safeguards and protections the liberty society 406 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: where we value the rule of law and a system 407 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: creates order. There are boundaries, there are guidelines, there are rules. 408 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: You know how to live within them, and therefore you're 409 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 2: more free to act and interact. I want a justice 410 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 2: system to enforce contracts and protect personal rights and property rights. 411 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: The antifa people don't believe in property rights. The anti 412 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: capitalist doesn't believe in property rights. Do you know how 413 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: twisted it is not to believe in property rights? Without 414 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: property rights, you cannot be free. Now, I have always 415 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 2: shared it this way, that if you cannot say no, 416 00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 2: you can't be free. But the original, I guess would 417 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 2: call it the more traditional argument is the idea that 418 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 2: if you cannot own real property, you are not free. 419 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 2: So if I have, I don't know, a pen, I'm 420 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 2: holding on to a pen right here? Does that sound 421 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: like a pen? That's my pen, and I'm holding on 422 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: to this pen, and then you take this pen from 423 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: me and tell me I can't have this pen, and 424 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 2: that you decide who has the pen. I'm not a 425 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 2: free person. I have to be able to own this. 426 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 2: When we talk about real property, we're not necessarily talking 427 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 2: about real estate. This is mine, It belongs to me, 428 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: and it cannot be taken from me by force. And 429 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: if it is taken from me by force, I have 430 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 2: recourse via a system of justice. But if the pen 431 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: can be taken from me by someone who decides whether 432 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: or not I get pens, and then requires of me 433 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: certain things in order to get the pen, I am 434 00:28:53,240 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: not a free person. I'm not How could anybody not 435 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: favor property rights? Property rights are fundamental to the concept 436 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: of freedom, because to accept a property right is to 437 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: accept the rights that exist from nature and Nature's God. 438 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,239 Speaker 2: It is that I exist. I have the right to 439 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: my life. I have the right to my liberty. Hey, hey, 440 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: how about what just throw in the pursuit of happiness? 441 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 2: And if I am able to acquire, achieve, a procure 442 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 2: a pen, name the thing, then it does indeed through 443 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 2: my own work or my own good fortune, then it 444 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: does indeed belong to me. If I did not steal 445 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: it from another, if I did not engage in some 446 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: elicit or legal activity to engage it, to procure it 447 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: from another, it is mine. How could that be anything 448 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: other than exactly what we want? The whole concept of 449 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: the laws of nature, the very idea that you have 450 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: this life it belongs to you. It was Tim Kaine who, 451 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: in one of the more ugly statements ever made, actually 452 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 2: pushed the idea that rights only come from government. 453 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 5: The notion that rights don't come from laws and don't 454 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 5: come from the government, but come from the creator. That's 455 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 5: what the Iranian government believes. It's a theocratic regime that 456 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 5: bases its rule on Shia law and target Sunnies behinds, Jews, Christians, 457 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 5: and other religious minorities. And they do it because they 458 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 5: believe that they understand what natural rights are from their creator. 459 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 5: So the statement that our rights do not come from 460 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 5: our laws or our governments is extremely troubling. 461 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: The guy has never read the Constitution of the United States. 462 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: I totally get that. That is the backwards perversion. That 463 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: is the perversion, and we should well push ourselves away from. 464 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 2: Which is why we should be so appreciative that we 465 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 2: see the Trump administration moving to label Antifa terrorist group, 466 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: because it is because Antifa is making the claim that 467 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 2: you should not have rights. You don't have the right 468 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: to walk down the street, you don't have the right 469 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: to speak as you choose, you don't have the right 470 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: to vote for who you choose. They believe in intimidation, 471 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: they believe in destruction. They are not people who believe 472 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: that you have the right to your property. Their question 473 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: is who brought the matches want to burn it all down? 474 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 2: And how does that happen? Because perversions like Tim Kaines 475 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 2: play in other ways, like the perversion of Marxism, the 476 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: perversion that Karl Marx really had something to offer, the 477 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: perversion that what Bernie Sanders is offering up and has 478 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: been offering up for decades is anything more than violence. 479 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: We're all of the government, gun directly in your mouth 480 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: saying you agree, don't you? You'll comply, won't you. That's 481 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: exactly what it is. And now it's people like Representive 482 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 2: Alexandria Cossio Cortes and the squad that want to hold 483 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: the trigger while you are forced to comply. We're in 484 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: such a bigger conversation here than just a group like 485 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: Antifa or this politician or that politician. We are into 486 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: the fundamentals of what kind of society do we want, 487 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,719 Speaker 2: what kind of society do we value? How do we 488 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 2: want to make this happen? And I think we need 489 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: to make it happen with the rule of law and capitalism, 490 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: and I think we should be absolutely unapologetic in saying so, 491 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 2: recognize that it's better just based on the history perfect. 492 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 2: I didn't say perfect. What the bloody heck is perfect. 493 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: I don't even know what it is. We the people, 494 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: in order to form a more perfect union, not form 495 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: a perfect union. You work there, you get there. I'm 496 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: not arguing that anything's perfect. I'm arguing that capitalism is 497 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: the best system devised by Man thus far. And these Marxists, 498 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: these antifas, these Bernie Sanders supporting fools, ain't got nothing. 499 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: Antifa is a terrorist organization. Who cares what Joe Biden 500 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: or Dan Goldbin or anybody else says. We know what is. 501 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,959 Speaker 2: Let us vote for people who put an end to 502 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: such organizations, who prosecute people engaged in such violence. And 503 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: let's make sure the people who want the matches never 504 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: get elected to positions where they're close to the fuse. 505 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,239 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today. And 506 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 2: one of the other stories I didn't get to this 507 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: week is this statue that was on the National Mall. 508 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. 509 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 2: People have free time. Man that's the part that amazes me. 510 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: Some one or some group put a statue on the 511 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 2: National Mall there in Washington, d C. In honor of 512 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 2: Friendship Month, and it's a statue of Donald Trump with 513 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein and they've got their right hands out and 514 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 2: they're standing next to each other. Trump on the right, 515 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 2: Epstein on the left. It doesn't really look like Epstein, 516 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: and they're holding hands and the right hand is up 517 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 2: in the air and their right leg is up like 518 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 2: they're frolicking. It's very, very weird, and it falls into 519 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: one of the weirdest, most strange narratives out there that 520 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 2: somehow the Epstein files are just so bad for Donald Trump. 521 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 2: The Epstein files to the extent that they exist, meaning 522 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 2: how many names are in them, etc. Because we've heard 523 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: that it doesn't exactly exist. The way we think it 524 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: does is about who was abusing children. That's what we 525 00:34:54,680 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: want to know. As we've said here a bajillion times, 526 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: just because you may be listing in the files doesn't 527 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: mean to anything wrong. Jeffrey Epstein hung around with a 528 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 2: lot of very wealthy people in those crowds, it doesn't 529 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 2: mean they did anything wrong. The question is Were you 530 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 2: on the island abusing young women? Were you involved in 531 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 2: the sex trafficking of children? And if you were to jail, 532 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 2: you go. The longer we go without releasing some part 533 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: of these files in a way that is not something 534 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 2: we don't already know publicly, the longer it goes, the 535 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 2: more ammunition the Trump administration is giving the left. And 536 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: that's the fault of Pambondy, the attorney general. And when 537 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 2: Trump said this is no big deal, why are you 538 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 2: paying attention to this, he read the room wrong. And 539 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 2: it's still haunting. You can't just release some stuff. It's 540 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 2: not even that the statue, It's just it keeps a 541 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 2: conversation going. And me, I'd love the information so I 542 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 2: can know who to go after, who violated the rights 543 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 2: of children, and move on to other subjects too. Find 544 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 2: everything at Tonycotts dot com. Monday, everyone take care