1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing how everyone but the government m hmm, 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: just has to make it work. 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I gotta think about bills go up, you 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: gotta pay sorry. 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: I was thinking about that this morning. By the way, 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: it's Kenill and Casey show. I'm Rob that's Casey And 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this this morning about how in life, 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: when bad news comes your way, you don't get to 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: cry to the public. You don't get to strong arm 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: humanity into giving you money. You don't get to put 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: your life's poor budgeting or unexpected expenses up for a 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: public referendum where people can just bail you out. You 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: just have had to make it work the past five years. 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: I'm thinking about somebody tagged you in this tweet and 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: they were talking about their electric bill and they said 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: they used four percent less electricity in twenty twenty five 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: than they did in twenty four. However their bill went 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: up twelve percent. 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: Right, And it wasn't there wasn't some negotiation. They didn't 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: get to put that up to the public. Just some 21 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: government into d said hey, aes, here's help with your 22 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: leadership's retirement plan. Here's a rate increase, right yep. And 23 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: I mentioned all of this because there was this meeting 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: yesterday and WRTV, amongst others, have this story about it 25 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: where it's called Accelerate Indiana Municipalities. First of all, I 26 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: don't want my municipalities accelerated, because every time there's an 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: acceleration of government, I end. 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 3: Up paying more. 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: Now, when you say accelerate Indiana Municipalities, you're talking about 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 2: AIM AAME. 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 3: That's the acronym is AIM. 32 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: And all of these local government people met and it 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: was this river of tears over the fact that you're 34 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: going to get ten percent, at most ten percent off 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: your property tax bill next year. Cap the three hundred dollars, 36 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: by the way, but is this river and by the way, 37 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people, most peop will. 38 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: Not actually get three hundred dollars back. 39 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: But this just uncontrollable sobbing from these local government people. 40 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: And the question that I would have, of course, I'm 41 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: sure I'm banned from that one too, just like the 42 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: Lincoln Day dinner, would be what did you people do 43 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: with all the extra money you've gotten in the past 44 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: five years? We have seen an explosion of revenue far 45 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: out pacing inflation. See, that's what they'll come back with 46 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: us well, inflation, Eh, inflation ain't three times right? You're 47 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: seeing you've seen people's property taxes double triple. What have 48 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: you done with all of this extra money? To the 49 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: point when just a fraction of it, a fraction of 50 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: it is coming back to the people that now you 51 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: you the government, the local governments are screaming nine to 52 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: one one. You're screaming, somebody come save us. When you 53 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: got all of this extra money, which far out paced inflation, 54 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: what have you done with that money? And the answer 55 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: is what they don't want to say, is we spent it. 56 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: They spent it on stuff like where I live. They 57 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: spent it on a second football field, or four field houses, 58 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: or a. 59 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: Road that runs right up to people's backyards. They spent it. 60 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: That's what the school systems did. They spent it. That's 61 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: what the local governments did. They spent it. 62 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: Since you mentioned Brownsburg, I thought it was interesting that 63 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: the town council president Travis to Shane, he was at 64 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 2: this AIM meeting and he said that they're going to 65 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: struggle to maintain infrastructure and provide annual pay raises. 66 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so the fire guys got an eight percent raise 67 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: the one budget. Then they got a four percent raise 68 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: the next budget. Then I think they got a raise 69 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: in this budget, Like they keep getting the raises, and 70 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: yet it's always, oh, the most important thing is going 71 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: to be hurt. Like you're gonna tell me a town 72 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: that has ninety million dollar budge, So we'll just use 73 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: where I live. Right, And by the way, if you 74 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: look at your own town or city's budget, you're gonna 75 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: see this. 76 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: But I just know this budget. 77 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: So they have an almost ninety million dollar budget. When 78 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: I left that council ten years ago is forty five million. 79 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: That means that budget has doubled in the ten years 80 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: that I've been gone. They're spending like three million dollars 81 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: on designs of future projects. 82 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: Right, So on one hand, oh. 83 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: The policeman, the fire, it could be all over for them. 84 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: You you might have criminals breaking into homes left and 85 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: right because there won't be any police. But what about 86 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: these projects that you're designing for like ten years from now? 87 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: The police casey, But the architectural design it's so pretty 88 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: Like that is it. 89 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: Is insulting to people when you got all of this 90 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: extra money, millions upon millions of dollars into your whether 91 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: it's your city, your town, your school corporation, your township. 92 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: And then when somebody gets a fraction of that back. 93 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: And by the way, who is going to continue to 94 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: increase because they've done nothing to curb the assessment issue. Correct, 95 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: So the assess as long as the assessments continue to rise, 96 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: the property taxes will continue to rise. 97 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 3: We've already done the math on this show. 98 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: In many communities, within two years, people any cut will 99 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: be wiped out by assessment increases. And instead of just 100 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: looking at it, looking themselves in the mirror and going 101 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: people actually deserved a lot more than what they got back. 102 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: People are pissed off because they've paid a lot more 103 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: and they aren't seeing the results for what they've paid. 104 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: We the government need to look in the mirror and go, yeah, 105 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: you know what, we've taken enough. We've taken enough. They've 106 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: paid enough time for us to suck it up, just 107 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: like they've had to suck it up. You know, every 108 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: year when you get less in your bank account because 109 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: the government gets more, did the government people come out and. 110 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 3: Go, oh my gosh, those poor people. 111 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,239 Speaker 1: Did you get to go cry to the news about 112 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: your property tax increase? 113 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: Well, I mean we did we cried, we screamed, we rallied, 114 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 2: and yet. 115 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: Here we are these people like in some group therapy 116 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: session at this whatever it is accelerate Indiana municipalities. Nobody 117 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: feels any sympathy for you government people, because you're greedy 118 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: piggies who have seen explosive increases in your revenue. And 119 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: instead of having the common sense of a gnat, which 120 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: is to say, hey, this might not last forever, maybe 121 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: we ought to put a few of these acorns away 122 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: for the future. By the way, I think the town 123 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: of Browns were guys like twelve million dollars in their 124 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: general fund, so that's what they're we're supposed to be 125 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: worried about, Like that's in your your savings. I think 126 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: the collective savings of the town is like ninety million dollars. 127 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: General fund is just the property tax fund. Instead of 128 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: these these governments saying, hey, what a great opportunity for 129 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: the people who are supposed to serve to get money 130 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: back which will make their lives better, that will improve 131 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: their ability to buy things for themselves and their families. 132 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: What a great opportunity for that which will make everybody 133 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: better off. And we can figure out how to do 134 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: with less. I don't know, maybe we design one less 135 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: road this year. Maybe we just you know, maybe we 136 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: only spend a million on designs instead of like three million. 137 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: They come out and they're just screaming, like their hairs 138 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: on fire, and it shows how much these people in 139 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: government actually hate you. 140 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: The CEO of AIM said that they're not asking to 141 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: undo the property tax cuts. What they want is the 142 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: income tax system to be adjusted. 143 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: This is so important, right, This shows exactly what these 144 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: people are. 145 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: They want cities and towns to have a larger share 146 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: of the local income tax revenue. 147 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: And what does that means. In this bill there is 148 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: a proposal to raise or not proposal. It passed that 149 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: in starting in twenty seven, local governments who previoly previously 150 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: could not raise your income tax now can tap in 151 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: and raise your income tax. They're not going to do 152 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: with less. Just look at these school systems. We've already heard, oh, 153 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: there could be one hundred school referendums next year. Why 154 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: because the government didn't actually do anything to rein in 155 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: the ability to tax by these local governments. If anything, 156 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: they enhance that and you're gonna get that three hundred 157 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: dollars back this year, and you're gonna go, oh, what 158 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: a deal, and then they know, damn, well, then it's 159 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: gonna go up after that, but you'll forget who to 160 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: blame by then, and then you'll just be pissed off 161 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: and not know who to vote against, and everything will. 162 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: Continue to be the stasic. 163 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: Like I just saw that, and it was just like, 164 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: we are asked to do more with less in our 165 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: lives every single day, and we don't get to bitch 166 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: to the news, and we don't get to put referendums 167 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: up and use children as human shields so that we 168 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: get more money. And these local government people can't ever 169 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: just say, damn, those people have been abused, man, their 170 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: pocketbooks have been rated. Man boy, why don't we just 171 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: do with less for once? They like this and they's 172 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: just the crying and the what I just gross gross, Hey, Rob. 173 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: Good news? 174 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 2: Oh the government, this is like real good news. 175 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 3: Well yeah, government, I thought you said good news. 176 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk about it coming up. It's ninety three WIBC. 177 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: Look, this seems pretty basic to me, but apparently it's 178 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: not to the people who are running the country. So 179 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: let's let's work through this, shall we. It's Kenny Casey show. 180 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm rob, that's Casey. If you're not going to fix 181 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: the thing that's most important to the people, then you 182 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: shouldn't be surprised when the people's approval of you is less. 183 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I mean that seems pretty basic, does it right? 184 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 185 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: But Donald Trump does not seem to understand why his 186 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: approval ratings continue to tick down. And I'm it is 187 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: the the level of the seeming level of disconnect is 188 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: somewhat alarming. 189 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: So it's a new a people, and it shows that 190 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: his roval of his management of the federal government has dropped. 191 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: He's now at thirty three percent approval rating. That's down 192 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: from forty three percent just in March. Now this is 193 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: different from his overall approval rating, which is sitting at 194 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: thirty six percent according to the AP. So just his 195 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 2: management style is pretty much what they're dinging. 196 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 197 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: And so what I think with this, what it comes 198 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: back to is, look, it's all sort of related to 199 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: the same thing. Like if things were going well in society, 200 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: people would say, oh, he's managing the federal government great, 201 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: because let's face it, the average verson has no concept 202 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: of how you know, many people don't even know who 203 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: the vice president. 204 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: Is, right, they don't. They're just totally out of touch. 205 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: They judge things based on how they're impacting them on 206 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: a daily basis, and when you have not done the 207 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: things necessary to ensure that people are having a look. 208 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: It comes back to a ford of the affordability of living. 209 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: We talked about this yesterday, where you know, between Costco 210 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: and Walmart, I was like two hundred and seventy dollars 211 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: in and you know, I bought some things that are 212 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: going to expand over a week, but by and large 213 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: it was essentially a week two weeks worth of stuff. 214 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: And hey, it's two seventy large out the door. 215 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: Can I afford it? Sure? I'm also really good. 216 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: With money and very frugal and have no hobbies in 217 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: my own existence, so you know, like I can absorb it. 218 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 3: But does it sting? Yes? 219 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: And I think the bigger deal is it's emotionally deflating 220 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: for people because there's no sign that's getting any better. 221 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: Is it sustainable? That's the question. Yeah, you can do 222 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 2: that now, but can you forever? When prices continue to rise. 223 00:11:54,840 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: It's basically like being stuck in a relationship, like people 224 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: get out of you know, relationships. What do they do, 225 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: They go to the gym, they improve their physic, you know, their. 226 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: Face a glow up? Yeah, is that what it's called? 227 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: Is that it's called a blow up? 228 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: Why because like there's now optimism of whatever thing I 229 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: was unhappy in. Now I have the opportunity to be better. 230 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm optimistic, right, like I'm I'm I'm gonna 231 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: eat better, I'm gonna do all these things, you know, 232 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: because there's hope. There is a sense of hope. And 233 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: it's sort of the same thing here where we're just 234 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: like in the doldrums of this what you send me 235 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: that tweet from the guy the other day about how 236 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: it's basically just other than a more secure border, the 237 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: continuation of the Joe Biden presidency. 238 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's Biden's economy with closed borders. 239 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: You're right, I mean, and the border is markedly better. 240 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: I think no one would dispute that. And that's wonderful. 241 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 4: Right. 242 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: If you had to tell me, you can have Biden 243 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: with a secure border or Biden without a secure border, 244 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to take with the secure border. 245 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 3: But Trump has. 246 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: Failed, and quite frankly, if Trump and the Republicans have 247 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: failed miserably on the key issue to their obtaining power, 248 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: which is getting the price of stuff under control, which 249 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: is affecting how he's judged on everything. 250 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you think about the forty three day 251 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: government shutdown, disrupted air travel, delayed, food aid, left hundreds 252 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: of thousands of employees unpaid, And for what what did 253 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: we get? What was the win? What was the big w. 254 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 3: There wasn't one. Oh, so it's nothing. 255 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: The spending level continues, that's right from when Biden was president, right, 256 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: and hemp and cannabis is now banned. 257 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: So I think so that was the big win. 258 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: That's what this was all about. 259 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think one of the major First of all, 260 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: one of the major issues with Trump is there's never 261 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: a coherent, consistent message, like have you noticed he didn't 262 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: He's never gone out and sold the big beautiful bill. 263 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 3: Heavy noticed. 264 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: There was not something where he went across the country 265 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: doing town hall type things like hey, in your creata 266 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: right here in your community, here's how this will help you. 267 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: He doesn't do that. Now, Trump's never done that. It's 268 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: one of the reasons I got that interview with Trump 269 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: all those years ago, because they said Trump doesn't do 270 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: retail politicking. You can't put him at a phone bank. 271 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: You can't you know, put him in. And part of 272 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: it is logistically it's very hard to do. And they said, 273 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: we got to figure out how to retail politic with 274 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: this guy in a state like Indiana without retail politicking. Okay, 275 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: who's influential in the Republican counties, this guy is, Okay, 276 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: go talk to him or you know, he'll come talk 277 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: to you. Great, But the point is, when you're gonna 278 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: sell stuff, you've got to put the guy out, not 279 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: in a stadium somewhere, you got to put him around 280 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: a group of people talking about specifically here in Indiana, 281 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: here's what's better. Here in Idaho, here's what's better. Here 282 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: in Oklahoma, here's what's better. And Trump just doesn't do that. 283 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: And so people just see without any pushback or any 284 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: explanation other than some bizarre, nonsensical thing about all the 285 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: tariffs are going to make all this money for who, 286 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: because all we see right now is we're paying more. 287 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: And it's just like the people just feel like they're 288 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: getting piled on, piled on, piled on with the increased 289 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: cost of everything, and there's no light at the end 290 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: of the tunnel of here's the plan to get us 291 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: out of this. 292 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: Well, I mean there were bad optics as well, because 293 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: you had during this government shutdown, he was having parties 294 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: while people were not happy with the way things were going. 295 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: It's not a good look. 296 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, the ballrooms of it. I get people going, oh, 297 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: it's private donation, blah blah blah. Okay, nobody gives money 298 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: for nothing. We know that, right, But the point is 299 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter even if it's being privately paid for. 300 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: He has spent so much time and focus on that 301 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: at a time where front and center to every American 302 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: there is a driving issue and not only is it 303 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: not being solved, No, there's no plan. Like if he'd 304 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: come out now, he won't do this, and the Republicans 305 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: won't do this because it all comes back to the 306 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: same thing, which is legalized vote buying. We are so 307 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: our apologies are so entrenched in the legalized vote buying. 308 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: They're an addicts at this point. They're addicted to it. 309 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: They can't remove themselves from it. If he'd come out 310 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: from day one and said this economy is so screwed 311 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: up and you are paying the price for it so hard. 312 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: We're going to have to have an honest. 313 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: Discussion about how it got screwed up, why it's messed up, 314 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: and what the I believe we're all adults in this room. 315 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: I believe in you, and you can hear bad news 316 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: and go with it. And here is my plan over 317 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: the next year to curtail federal spending, get these programs 318 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: under control, get money printing under control, and make stuff 319 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: more affordable. And if we all buy into this, we're 320 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: going to feel some pain in the beginning, but a 321 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: year from now we're going to be through this. 322 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: People would have judged it totally different. Yes, totally different, but. 323 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: That didn't happen. No, And it's all about negative impact 324 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: on perceptions. 325 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so now it doesn't matter whether he's running 326 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: the federal government. Well not, well, well it's chaotic. The 327 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: Doge thing was ridiculous. They didn't sell that properly. They 328 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: didn't explain what was going They would just arbitrarily throw 329 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: out numbers. But then people would be like, well, that 330 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: money still goes back to that government agency. It's not 331 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: being saved, it's just not being spent. And then you 332 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: know that didn't culminate in anything. 333 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 2: We look at Pam BONDI, how long has she been 334 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 2: in the position, what major arrest has happened? 335 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 3: Should we talk. 336 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: About the Epstein stuff when we come back. That feels 337 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: like a really big and the fact that Trump was 338 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: calling these allegedly calling these lawmakers right trying to pressure 339 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: them not to sign onto this discharge petition, that seems 340 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: like a really big deal. 341 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: You're listening to Kennle and Casey. It is ninety three WYBC. 342 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Like I think the Trump Epstein stuff is a 343 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: master class in how not to handle something. Yeah, I've 344 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: watched this for months now, and I have no idea 345 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: why they're handling it the way they are. 346 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 3: When you are a. 347 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:13,239 Speaker 1: High profile public figure and something comes out about you 348 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: that is bad, you should just probably expect the fact 349 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: that the media is going to latch onto that. You know, 350 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: once they see a drop of blood, right, they're gonna 351 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: they're vampires, right, And you just got to accept, Hey, 352 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna just keep, you know, digging on this thing, 353 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: whatever it may be, until they get every ounce of 354 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: news out of it that they think they can. So 355 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: you might as well, just unless you've committed some heinous 356 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: criminal activity that could put you or your close associates 357 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: behind bars, then why don't you just get out in 358 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: front of it and define the narrative yourself. And in 359 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: the case of Trump, he has so fought that he 360 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: had any sort of relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, which was 361 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: always he should have known always going to be disproved 362 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: because of the massive amount of media attention in this 363 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: and digging on it and the stuff that existed that 364 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: he should have or somebody should have told him, mister president, 365 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: this is going to come out. Nobody has ever alleged 366 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: Trump did anything illegal. 367 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 3: But when you get caught either. 368 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: Lying or trying to what comes off is trying to 369 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: deceive the public, then you start putting smoke where there. 370 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 3: May be nothing, no fire. 371 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, And all Trump would have had to say from 372 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: the beginning is, look, I knew this guy. I had 373 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just talking off the top of my 374 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: head here. Obviously you would have a much better crafted 375 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: statement than this. But I knew this guy. I had 376 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: some business dealings with him, just like thousands of other 377 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: people did. I always thought there was something a little 378 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: off about this guy. You're certainly going to find that 379 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: I had correspondence with him. I never engaged in any 380 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: illegal activity. I you know, vehemently, you know, reject any 381 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: of the behavior. I feel horrible for the victims, but yes, 382 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: you're certainly gonna find that I, like thousands of other people, 383 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: had dealings with Jeffrey Epstein. I look forward to all 384 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: of it coming out and the victims getting their justice 385 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: and closure. And I'm happy to, you know, address anything 386 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: that may come out about me. Here's what you'll probably find. 387 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: Da da da da da. Again, you would say it 388 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: a much more concise, you know, manner than I just did. 389 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 1: But he acted like he never knew the guy. He 390 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: bumped into him a couple times. And now these emails 391 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: are coming out and they're showing clearly Epstein and Trump 392 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: had some form of relationship that went much further than 393 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: I bumped into the guy. 394 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 3: A couple times. 395 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Originally, I mean, Trump was denying any wrongdoing. He 396 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: said that he did know Epstein, but that he cut 397 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 2: ties with him. He banned him from marri Loago. But 398 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 2: now there's this twenty nineteen message in from Epstein. From Epstein, 399 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: it says Donald Trump knew about the girl, So when 400 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: did he cut ties? 401 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: Well, and so this is so the and that he 402 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: allegedly spent time around one of the victims. Now the 403 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: victim in question is this Virginia Goffrey. Yeah, who is 404 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: the lady who tragically had it just was very public 405 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: about what went on. She committed suicide, but she had 406 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: said publicly, Hey, Trump never did anything to me. So 407 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: the Democrats who released these emails like they're not running 408 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: a soup kitchen over here. They have a desired result, 409 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: which is to make Trump look bad. Death by a 410 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: thousand paper cuts. Which is why I come back to 411 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: Trump probably did know there was something off about this guy. 412 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: Many people knew there was something off about this guy. 413 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: And in the Trump orbit, he dealt with shady, rotten 414 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: characters all the time. He was a New York real 415 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: estate developer. In many ways, he was probably in bed 416 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: with the mafia because that's how you got the. 417 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 3: Contracts, he got the stuff done. 418 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: I'm sure Epstein was just another guy in his orbit 419 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: where it was like, yeah, that guy's a little off, 420 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, and they and yeah, he probably is doing 421 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: something whatever, But out of sight, out of mind doesn't 422 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: make it the right approach. But now you've got these 423 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: emails coming out where Trump is clearly linked into this 424 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: orbit more than he has alluded to divulged right, and 425 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: then to make it even worse, you've got this discharge 426 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: petition that has now been signed on to correct and 427 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: yesterday allegedly and the Trump administration has not refuted this 428 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: to my knowledge, that he was calling a couple of 429 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: these Republican lawmakers who are a part of this. 430 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: It was reported that it was Lauren Bobert and Nancy. 431 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 1: Mace and telling them please don't sign this discharge petition. 432 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: So so like, again, this thing is so convoluted at 433 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: this point, I think most people have some cursory knowledge 434 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: of this. Thomas Massey, who is a Republican represented from Kentucky, 435 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: had teamed up with Rocanna, who is a Democrat representative 436 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: from California. 437 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: And they want the full release the files. 438 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: Right, They were moving forward with what is called a 439 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: discharge petition, which would allow the House of Representatives to 440 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: bypass leadership and vote on an issue. In this case, 441 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: it's all the information related to Epstein. 442 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: That was a procedural move right. 443 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: Because the House of Representatives has for several years now 444 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: refused to put their pedal to the medal on and 445 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: for the past year that Trump has been president, on 446 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,479 Speaker 1: his one of the major issues he ran on. Trump 447 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: made Epstein an issue. Nobody held a gun to his 448 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: head and made him do it. He did that on 449 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: his own. They have refused to follow through on it, 450 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: and people have said, what in the world is going 451 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: on here? This doesn't make any sense. Why you're fighting 452 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: this so hard. This guy was clearly engaged in human 453 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: sex trafficking. He clearly had clients. See the fact that 454 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: the Royals have just kicked Prince Andrew basically out of 455 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: the family. For the most part, they didn't do that 456 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: out of the goodness of their art. They did it 457 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: because they've seen evidence of what this dude was doing. 458 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: Prince Andrew wasn't the only guy. And people are like, 459 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: we want to know the truth about who this guy 460 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: Epstein was, what he was doing, and who all was 461 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: impacted by this. And instead of just going the logical 462 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: position of any person, Republican, Democrat, libertarian, whatever, be like, absolutely, 463 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: get all of this out there, let the publics see 464 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: all of it. You know, they the Republicans have fought 465 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: the release of this up to the point now where 466 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: you've got the president allegedly calling lawmakers. It's saying, please 467 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: don't be the final vote on this. We don't want 468 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: this to come out. And people are like, what the 469 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: hell's going on here? 470 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: So the House Speaker Mike Johnson said that he would 471 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 2: put a bill which compels the release of the files 472 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: to the House within the next coming days. He said, 473 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 2: I think next week. 474 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: Now, the problem with this for Trump is it doesn't 475 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: become law just because the Republican or the House Representatives 476 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: vote on it. It now would have to go to 477 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: the Senate, of which it has the sixty vote threshold, 478 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: and so this thing is going to start up all 479 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: over again, which means as long as there is a 480 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: debate or even a lack of debate on this, until 481 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: it's voted on, and then he would have to make 482 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: the choice whether. 483 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 3: To sign it or not. 484 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: This is a long process like any other bill being 485 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: signed into law, and until all of that is put 486 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: out there or be behind us, people are going to 487 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: keep questioning why they won't do something about this. 488 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: So the White House Press Secretary Caroline Lovett, she accused 489 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: Democrats of selectively leaking documents just to smear Trump. I 490 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: have your statement. 491 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 5: About the new Epstein emails that have been released by 492 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 5: House Democrats. Separate from why you believe the emails were 493 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 5: made public, can you address their substance? Did the president 494 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 5: ever spend hours at Jeffrey Epstein's house with a victim? 495 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 6: These emails prove absolutely nothing other than the fact that 496 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 6: President Trump did nothing wrong. And what President Trump has 497 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 6: always said is that he was from Palm Beach and 498 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 6: so was Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein was a member at 499 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 6: mar A Lago until President Trump kicked him out because 500 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 6: Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophile and he was a creep. 501 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: Okay, So the follow up to this is, it's not 502 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: whether Trump was engaged in illegal activity, it's you're not 503 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: putting the information out there. 504 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 3: If he is not. 505 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: Engaged in anything illegal, why are you feeding the narrative. 506 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: You could end all of this, and it's very clear 507 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: that they have made a decision on these sort of 508 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: emails are going to look bad for Trump. We can't 509 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: stand any bad publicity, which is you know, it's the drip, the. 510 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 3: Drip, drip, drip, all of this. 511 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: And if Trump knew Epstein was a pedophile, why didn't 512 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: he call the police. 513 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 3: That's gonna be. 514 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: The next question is if Trump knew what Epstein was, 515 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: which she's she said there of her own words, right, 516 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: I didn't imagine that. The next question has to be, 517 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: if you knew this guy. 518 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: Was so bad, why didn't you go beyond just cutting 519 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: ties do something allowed it? 520 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: Like, they have handled this so wrong, and they keep 521 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: handling it wrong, and they keep feeding a narrative that, 522 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: for the record, I don't think is there and most 523 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: people are saying, isn't there that Trump was. Trump wasn't 524 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: engaged in pedophilia, involved with any. 525 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 3: Of these girls. 526 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: He just was a guy who was in business. Epstein 527 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: was in business. They protect each other to some extent. 528 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: He like, out of sight, out of mind. I'm glad 529 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: I got this guy off my plate. I'm done. And 530 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: that's going to look bad, But it doesn't look as 531 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: bad as the narrative being fed that you were somehow 532 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: involved with one of these girls, which is where it's 533 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: going right now. 534 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now we have another round in the political 535 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: email war. Yeah, back to that. You're listening to Kendall 536 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 2: and Casey. It is ninety three WYBC. 537 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: You know it really is the end of the American 538 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 3: worker as we know it. 539 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: We're seeing it play out in real time, and our 540 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: politicians seem not to care at all, many of them. 541 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: Well some of them even promoting it. Donald Trump was 542 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 2: defending the H one B VISA program and he even 543 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: said that the US needs to bring in talent. We 544 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 2: can't hack it. 545 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: Rob Well, and we talked about this yesterday that people 546 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: are outraged over to those comments he made on Laura 547 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 1: Ingram's show, as they rightfully should be. And really this 548 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: comes back to we have for so long essentially given 549 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: away the American workforce to these foreign countries, to these 550 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: foreign companies coming into our country and through these trade deals, 551 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: et cetera, that the American worker is not just in 552 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: competition in the economy. They're in competition in the economy 553 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: against people who will take the job for pennies on 554 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 1: the dollar. And it's facilitated by our government. 555 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: That's what's so frustrating, not only the federal government, but 556 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: Indiana's own state government. 557 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: Well, this was what was fascinating to me. So I 558 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: saw Andrew Ireland, state Representative. I don't know he was 559 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: on Fox News or one of these places, I forget 560 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: where it was. He was on some one of these programs, 561 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: and he's bitching about HB one visa workers. The problem 562 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: for Andrew Ireland is he voted for our state budget 563 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: which again it raises taxes by a billion dollars, but 564 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: it also facilitates the full funding of the Indian Economic 565 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: Development Corporation, which, as one report after another has come out, has. 566 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 5: Been a. 567 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: Securer, a secure e have secured the HB one, helped secure, 568 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: help companies secure, bring over into the workforce. 569 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: It has brought over into the workforce. 570 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: Casey, that's what I'm trying to say, got it in 571 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: the Indian economy thousands upon thousands of HB one workers 572 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: from foreign countries. So Andrew Ireland wants the publicity of, oh, 573 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: look at me, I'm complaining about this one worker over 574 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 1: here was a IU or someplace that had hired an 575 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: HB one worker and he was outraged over it. 576 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 3: But yet he votes to. 577 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: Fund a program that has brought thousands of HB one 578 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 1: workers in. So he wants the headline of looking like 579 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: he's doing something. But then when it comes time to 580 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: stand up to the party leadership and saying yes to IIDC, Yeah, 581 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: he said yes to the IDC, which is you'll come 582 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: out a one HB one worker over here, but you're 583 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: going to facilitate the hiring of thousands of HB one 584 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 1: workers brought into this state. Get out of here. It's 585 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: complete hypocrisy. 586 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: Well it was. It was actually an Indiana state government employee, 587 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: a senior database administrator. 588 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 3: Well I thought there was another one. It doesn't even matter. 589 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: Like the point is, like these people are just trying 590 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: to grab headlines when their actual vote, the thing they 591 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: have the ability to. 592 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 3: Do is not only is it, I mean you're paying. 593 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: You're basically paying through the IDC tax money goes to 594 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: the Indiana Economic Development Corporation, they take it and give 595 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: it to these companies, and these companies. 596 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 3: Bring in these foreign workers. So we are. 597 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: Basically paying to put ourselves out of jobs here in 598 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: the state of Indiana. 599 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you've got the DHS Secretary Christy Nomes. She 600 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: was talking about the visas in how they're going to 601 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: add into pegrity under the Trump administration. 602 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 3: What is the administration's position on these visas. 603 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 4: Now, we're going to keep using our visa programs. We're 604 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 4: just going to make sure that they have integrity that 605 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 4: we're actually doing the vetting of the individuals who come 606 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 4: into this country that they want to be here for 607 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 4: the right reasons, that they're not supporters of terrorists and 608 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 4: organizations that hate America. And that's what I think is 609 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 4: so remarkable is under the Trump administration, we've sped up 610 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 4: our process and added integrity to the visa programs, to 611 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 4: green cards, to all of that. But also more people 612 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 4: are becoming naturalized under this administration than ever before. More 613 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 4: people are becoming citizens because we're not just streamlining and 614 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 4: building some processes back into our immigration policies, we're also 615 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 4: making sure that these individuals that are coming into our 616 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 4: country and get that privilege, that they actually are here 617 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 4: for the right reasons. Biden administration, there's probably the right reasons. 618 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, here's probably this because they'll say, well, we're going 619 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: to do this one hundred thousand dollars HP one visa fee. 620 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: That's dropping the bucket to these corporations if they can 621 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: hire two or three workers to do the work of 622 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: one American. Yes, they'll have to pay the fee for 623 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: each one of these people. But by year two or 624 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: year three they are making money off of it. That 625 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: all that is money that's going to go to the government, 626 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: they're going to blow on something that isn't going to. 627 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 3: Change the issue. 628 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: They'll still pay it because over the long term, it's 629 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: these companies are still going to be able to make 630 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: money off of having these workers in the country that 631 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: they can pay a fraction of what they're paying Americans. 632 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 2: So you had Representative Chip Roy from Texas. He announced 633 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: the Pause Act, that's a bill that freezes all immigration 634 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 2: until H one B visas are ended. And then they 635 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 2: sent out the Secretary of the Treasury Bessent. He was 636 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: sent out to clarify Trump's vision, and he said, it's 637 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: all about training because we need to build ships. And 638 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: you know who really wants to build ships is Todd Young. 639 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 2: Todd the Duke of Spending. The Duke spent Indiana Senator 640 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: Todd Young. So where does Todd Young stand on these visas? 641 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: There's another clip I wanted to play for you, but 642 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 2: we're running out of time. Maybe we'll get to it later. 643 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 2: I think we have to readdress this. 644 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 3: Okay, what are we doing next? 645 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: Any idea? Are you just gonna make it up during 646 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: the break? That's usually most fun? 647 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I do know what we're doing, but Hack 648 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 2: like we're gonna make it out. 649 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 3: No, he tells, what is it. I didn't know. I 650 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: was trying to tea it up for you. 651 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: The US minted the last penny. 652 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, we're done with the penny. 653 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 2: We're done. It's the nickel. Next, you're listening to Kendall 654 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 2: and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC.