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Speaker 1: They seized a fan morning show with Chibi Chab and

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Speaker 1: Jeff Daniel.

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Speaker 2: Jones will be our starting quarterback this season.

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Speaker 3: I understand this league and how it works, and you've

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Speaker 3: got to perform at a high level week in week out.

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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, we all knew somebody

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Speaker 4: was gonna have to be on this end of the stick,

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Speaker 4: and it was me.

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Speaker 2: Part of it is, you know, he's been injured, you know,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's part of it. And we are

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Speaker 2: not re accent and playing. It's hard to, you know,

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Speaker 2: go out there and do the things you want to do.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I did a decent job improving, but

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Speaker 4: there's still a lot more I can do.

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Speaker 2: Guys, heart me talk about the consistency, and that's really

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Speaker 2: what I was looking for.

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Speaker 5: His work, I think is phenomenal. Just looking forward to

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Speaker 5: carrying that through the season.

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Speaker 6: He went around the league and see if just like

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Speaker 6: the consistency of having quarterback behind you that's been the

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Speaker 6: franchise player for years and years and years and getting

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Speaker 6: to build that chemistry with that quarterback year after year.

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Speaker 7: There is an advantage too.

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Speaker 4: I've got a trust in the Lord, and I got

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Speaker 4: to be where I am right now, right now, I'm

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Speaker 4: ending up its cooing.

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Speaker 8: If Daniel Jones is the Week one starter, it's not

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Speaker 8: going to be because he won the job. It's going

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Speaker 8: to be because Anthony Richardson did not hold on to it.

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Speaker 9: I have no confidence in Richardson. I have no confidence

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Speaker 9: until I see anything of consistency.

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Speaker 10: I don't have confidence in anybody.

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Speaker 2: This league is a year to year league, and what

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Speaker 2: do I feel as best for the Indianapols Skolts in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five And I.

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Speaker 11: Got to make these decisions.

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Speaker 2: That's what I get paid to do, and I got

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Speaker 2: to go with what I feels right, It's yeah.

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Speaker 7: There, Shane Stikeen, head coach of the Indianapolis Colts, on

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Speaker 7: behalf of the entire organization. Picking a guy whose best

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Speaker 7: season was three years ago when he went fifteen touchdowns

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Speaker 7: and five interceptions, and he's regressed every single year since.

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Speaker 7: But he's going to turn it around all of a

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Speaker 7: sudden because the one guy who actually has an eight

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Speaker 7: and seven record in the games in which he started

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Speaker 7: can't apparently get the operations right at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 7: And I don't know what's going on behind the scenes,

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Speaker 7: but good morning, Kevin Bowen, James Boyd, Mark Dykedon. It

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Speaker 7: just feels like it's Groundhog Day. And it's more of

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Speaker 7: the same now for the Indianapolis Colts. Whenever there feels

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Speaker 7: like there's a chance to move ahead and get forward,

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Speaker 7: they get stuck in neutral. It's like I have this

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Speaker 7: car that a couple of months ago, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 7: it'll only go thirty five miles an hour. I call

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Speaker 7: the dealership. They go, oh, it goes into safety mode,

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Speaker 7: so you can't blow up the engine. Nothing bad is

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Speaker 7: gonna happen to you. But you got to get it

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Speaker 7: to the dealership in the next day or two. That's

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Speaker 7: what it feels like with the Indianapolis Colts. We're in

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Speaker 7: safety mode. We got Daniel Jones whose career average of

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Speaker 7: air yards is like seven and depending on playmakers. Look,

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Speaker 7: it's a good thing. They got jt it's a good thing.

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Speaker 7: They've got some varied wide receivers. It's a good thing.

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Speaker 7: They got an incredible rookie tight end. They're gonna need it.

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Speaker 7: And now that I've had my say, I'm gonna turn

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Speaker 7: over to the guys that cover the team every day.

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Speaker 7: But that's been brewing for me for fourteen hours. Now,

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Speaker 7: I don't get it. I guess I kind of understand it.

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Speaker 7: But it's you're not gonna You're not gonna win playoff

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Speaker 7: games with Daniel Jones in the national football It's just

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Speaker 7: not to happen. Good morning, Kevin Bowen. How are you

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Speaker 10: So you're off the eleven win train, is what you're

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Speaker 10: telling them?

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Speaker 7: Yes, I'm I never said eleven, but I'm off the

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Speaker 7: ten win train.

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Speaker 12: You got the eighty check catches for eighty Mitchell.

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Speaker 7: Now, no, eighty Mitchell might get eighty catches, but he

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Speaker 7: might only average three yards of catch.

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Speaker 12: Now that's true.

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Speaker 7: Might be he might get eighty catches and have two

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Speaker 10: Yesterday I saw about a fifty yard deep ball from

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Speaker 10: Daniel Jim Mitchell in the old practice. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 10: stunned by any means by esterday's news. I think you

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Speaker 10: know it was. There was evidence that it was trending,

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Speaker 10: and Chainstake can always, I think, has been a a

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Speaker 10: believer in what Daniel Jones brings to their football team.

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Speaker 10: Who do you trust more?

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Speaker 13: You know?

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Speaker 10: That question to me became a lot more prevalent here

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Speaker 10: in the month of August. You know, I think that

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Speaker 10: Baltimore play was one that definitely had some impact on

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Speaker 10: this and so that's where the Colts are at organizationally,

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Speaker 10: and obviously there's a big picture impact to it all

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Speaker 10: we'll get into throughout the show. But yeah, again yesterday's news,

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Speaker 10: it was not the most stunning aspect. I think he

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Speaker 10: just kind of reaffirmed and and and further confirmed some

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Speaker 10: I was not overly stunned by the old chain stacking announcement.

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Speaker 12: James Boyd, I'll give Kevin some credit there to be wrong.

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Speaker 14: I'm happy to be wrong. Why is that he was

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Speaker 14: on this pretty early. I want to say him and

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Speaker 14: Stephen Holder after what was it Green Bay? Stephen Holder

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Speaker 14: was a more in person because he was at the game,

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Speaker 14: the preseason game last Saturday, and he was selling as man,

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Speaker 14: you know, just go back and listen everything that Shane instead,

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Speaker 14: and I want to say Kevin was a similar fashion

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Speaker 14: when it came to what Daniel Jones himself said after

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Speaker 14: Saturday's preseason game against the Green Bay Packers. And again,

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Speaker 14: the word is consistency. It's you know, learning things sort

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Speaker 14: of at the line of scrimmage, the operation.

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Speaker 12: I've heard that word a lot more of.

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Speaker 14: Last week or so Kevin than I've had I guess

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Speaker 14: previously regarding this QB Battle show, to me, similar to Kevin,

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Speaker 14: I wasn't surprised by it, but I am thinking, like, wow,

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Speaker 14: it is quite the move and we can get into it,

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Speaker 14: and we will get into it throughout the show. But

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Speaker 14: my initial thought is just like, hey, and this is

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Speaker 14: the first question I asked, Shane, you are telling us

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Speaker 14: that this guy is a better option than Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's fine.

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Speaker 14: But like, we can't sit here and act like that

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Speaker 14: he's been good. That's my only thing. Like I get

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Speaker 14: all of the you know, operational stuff, the check downs,

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Speaker 14: the checks to the line of scrimmage, the cadence, all

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Speaker 14: of these things, and for how good the Colts perceived

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Speaker 14: that to be with Daniel Jones, and perhaps as good

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Speaker 14: as they perceive it to be throughout his career. He's

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Speaker 14: had one good season and so they're begging a lot

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Speaker 14: on this guy who had, as you alluded to earlier, Jeff,

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Speaker 14: one good season three years ago. So it is quite

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Speaker 14: the gamble. In my opinion and the bigger, broader picture,

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Speaker 14: which Shane stykeen basically said, I don't really care about.

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Speaker 14: He's focused on the here and now is what does

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Speaker 14: this mean for the future of Anthony Richardson And you

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Speaker 14: cannot tell me, And you know, spoiler alert, I have

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Speaker 14: a piece coming out on The Athletic about this later

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Speaker 14: this morning. I'm fine with you all moving on from

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Speaker 14: Anthony if you feel like he's on the starting quarterback

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Speaker 14: I think his resume which suggested he's probably not. However,

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Speaker 14: you can't just sit up there and tell us you

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Speaker 14: haven't quit on him, though you have quit like this,

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Speaker 14: this is bad and for his purposes and so yes,

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Speaker 14: in theory he could come back and play this season,

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Speaker 14: all those things. But when you bench a guy who's

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Speaker 14: healthy twice before it started his third season, I think

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Speaker 14: you're telling him we don't believe in you, were giving

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Speaker 10: Yeah, a couple just quick thoughts from Shaine Styke and

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Speaker 10: yesterday you know the line of scrimmage James, to your point,

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Speaker 10: it was hammered home endlessly of Daniel Jones operationally, whatever

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Speaker 10: gets us in better places. And so I go back

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Speaker 10: to week one of Anthony Richardson's rookie year. He was

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Speaker 10: good enough to start then for you, but now three

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Speaker 10: line of scrimmage standpoint operationally. That confused me. You know,

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Speaker 10: when Shane was pressed on that several times he referenced, well,

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Speaker 10: you know, injuries have hurt him in growing in that area.

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Speaker 10: And my question be, Okay, when you're injured, you don't

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Speaker 10: have on field reps. You still have off the field reps.

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Speaker 10: You still have meeting room reps. So if you're saying

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Speaker 10: putting him back in the meeting room when he's healthy.

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Speaker 10: So again, where does he get You're telling us that

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Speaker 10: it's the injuries that have hurt his career. Okay, well

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Speaker 10: now he's healthy. Hell, he's not even gonna play Saturday

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Speaker 10: in the preseason game in Cincinnati. That one confuses me.

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Speaker 10: He needs reps, period, and he's not even gonna go

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Speaker 10: play in that game when it held three quarters. Get

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Speaker 10: get him some line of scrimmage, you know, views. And

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Speaker 10: then the other item and boy, Shane Steigen I did

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Speaker 10: not have the New York Giants franchise record for completion

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Speaker 10: percentage on the BINGO card yesterday, but Shane did drop

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Speaker 10: that during the press conference.

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Speaker 7: What do you think his career average per attempt is?

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Speaker 10: Well, he's never been a very high yards per attempt?

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Speaker 10: What is it? Six and a half? Yeah? You know,

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Speaker 10: Shane brought up that twenty twenty two season, which you

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Speaker 10: guys have both referenced, and honestly.

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Speaker 12: I think pople forget how that season actually went.

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Speaker 10: But that is when Shane probably witnessed Daniel Jones the

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Speaker 10: most in his career. And by that I mean this

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Speaker 10: Shane was in the NFC East and so when you're

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Speaker 10: game planning for the Eagles, you're running into a lot

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Speaker 10: of Giants film, You're running into a lot of a

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Speaker 10: you know, hey, these are similar opponents. Hey, let's see

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Speaker 10: how this offense attacked this team, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 10: And part of me is like, wait, what about twenty

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Speaker 10: twenty three? What about twenty twenty four? When Chane Psychon

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Speaker 10: now is here in Indie, so he's not watching Daniel

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Speaker 10: him go three and thirteen as a starter.

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Speaker 10: And honestly, the best thing for Daniel Jones was probably

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Speaker 10: getting benched and I guess indirectly demanding to be what

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Speaker 10: whatever sent away from the New York Giants because like

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Speaker 10: Daniel Jones going away from the NFL for two months

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Speaker 10: late last season helped him get this job.

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Speaker 15: Yes, he kind of one has benefited more from not

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Speaker 15: playing football than DS.

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Speaker 16: I'm like, wait a second, do we forget what he

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Speaker 16: actually is? It's like all of us should do this

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Speaker 16: at work? Should we all take like a two month

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Speaker 16: sabbatical still get paid? And then all of a sudden

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Speaker 16: people are like, hey, maybe we should bring that person back.

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Speaker 16: They were like, kind of good here.

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Speaker 12: That almost feels like a jettison from your last franch right.

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Speaker 7: That almost feels like that's what's happening here with Daniel Jones. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: we'll see what happens. Maybe consistency and dink and dunk

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Speaker 7: and the occasional downfield shot gets it done and gets

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Speaker 7: you into the playoffs with the wild card. But I

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Speaker 7: don't see much more than that. And again, James Appy

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Speaker 7: happy to be wrong because I'm passionate about the people

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Speaker 14: Jeff is fired up this morning. For those of you

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Speaker 14: Field DHS released is a mock draft one point twenty

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Speaker 12: Say, I'm gonna get they're picking a quarterback.

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Speaker 17: With the sixteenth pick in the NFL draft. Somehow he's

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Speaker 7: When do we talk?

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Speaker 10: Notre Dame name in their starter yesterday.

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Speaker 7: Four three, We'll give you a spot at nine fifty three.

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Speaker 7: We discussed the future of the Indianapolis Colts. The future

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Speaker 7: a ninety three to five and one o seven.

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Speaker 1: The morning checkdown on ninety sweet five and one oh

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Speaker 7: Good morning and walcome into Wednesday. It is a new

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Speaker 2: All Right, I'll start off by opening letting everyone know

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Speaker 7: So there you go. Those are the words of Shane

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Speaker 14: I'll gonna say not in this version of it. I

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Speaker 12: What you're referencing.

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Speaker 14: But he made his choice and we can certainly die

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Kevin Bond. We also have some return from injury

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Speaker 10: Huh, Yes, non quarterback wise, Kenny Moore, Alec Pierce, Bernard Ryman,

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Speaker 10: I know Derek Jackson, the agent for Anthony Richardson, spoke

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Speaker 7: They all right. Meanwhile, the news that we didn't want

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Speaker 7: Major League Baseball. Mark you, I know you've been waiting

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Speaker 17: The worst seven to be faced I've seen in for

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Speaker 10: Right?

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 12: They could drop it.

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Speaker 7: The next two days, the Cubs sweep a double header

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Speaker 7: Gotta love that. And so that's what's happening in Major

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Speaker 12: Here, carl Yeah, here finish?

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Speaker 14: You know, you know Rick Carlist, I just picture him,

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Speaker 10: You know, it's something I've thought about in regards to

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Speaker 14: And I don't know, but deserve is such a tantalizing

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Speaker 12: In the NBA, we'll certainly see.

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Speaker 7: All right, scratching, clawing, fighting, that's our text line right now.

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Speaker 7: I was wondering when we were to get to Indiana Jones,

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Speaker 10: I like Dan Jones.

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Speaker 12: I thought, really, yes.

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Speaker 10: By the way, somebody cold quarterback Dan Jones. I could

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Speaker 10: see that happen.

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Speaker 12: Somebody to me, Stephen Jones the third.

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Speaker 7: And they are right that by you know, if he

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Speaker 7: wins the first two games and they go into their

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Speaker 7: first divisional game two and O I'll be like, hey,

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Speaker 7: Daniel Jones, go.

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Speaker 10: Win the first two games. He just got to win

447
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Speaker 10: the first game. If he wins the first game, they're

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Speaker 10: gonna be carrying him.

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Speaker 7: Right on the shoulders.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, first season opening win. If that were the case,

451
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Speaker 12: is man?

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Speaker 17: The problem with Dan Jones is Dan Jones Rode and

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Speaker 17: Avon has lots of accidents, a lot of the time,

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Speaker 17: construction going on usual, a lot of work in progress.

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Speaker 12: So hopefully Mark you'll know Dan Ryan is the one

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Speaker 12: that got me.

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Speaker 7: Lord, but you got you got almost had on a

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Speaker 7: one way this morning trying to get into work.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, anybody just out there and this is I got

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Speaker 14: a few people on the YouTube Chager were laughing about

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Speaker 14: this and me coming in a little like seven dash

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Speaker 14: oh one. If you get into a Fender Binner, you

463
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Speaker 14: can't just stop in the middle of the street.

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Speaker 10: In on one way.

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Speaker 12: I'm like, you got a around a little bit.

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Speaker 14: So yeah, I had to be a little bit of

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Speaker 14: a you know, I won't say jerk this morning, but

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Speaker 14: a little bit stern, like, hey, let's get some pep

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Speaker 14: in our step and in our cars for that matter,

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Speaker 14: as you wear for the police to I don't know

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Speaker 14: follow reports.

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Speaker 7: I'm like that I paid money to watch you be stern.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, no, I mean I'm honestly, I'm.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: I don't usually use my horn, but I was like, hey, man,

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Speaker 14: I do want to get to work, and obviously today,

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Speaker 14: of all days, I got to be there.

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Speaker 7: Mark never uses his horn, do you Mark?

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Speaker 4: Ye?

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Speaker 7: Fer Wait, all right, let's get to the text. Lant.

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Speaker 7: I don't even want to know what the answer to

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Speaker 7: that is. Two three, nine ten. Sody is the number

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Speaker 7: to call. Mike checking in. It's been a Colts fan

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Speaker 7: since they got here. The Colts have started to remind

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Speaker 7: him of the late eighties early nineties, having a different

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Speaker 7: quarterback every year or other. Stability has departed from the organization.

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Speaker 7: By the time we find a QB, we will have

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Speaker 7: to get rid of some key players, or it'll be

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Speaker 7: that they can't expect these players to wait on a

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Speaker 7: leader that's not even on the team right now. If

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Speaker 7: you expected Jones to be a leader, just look at

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Speaker 7: the time. He was a giant. What we have here

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Speaker 7: is a dumpster fund. It's time to clean house. Love

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Speaker 7: the show.

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Speaker 18: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I'm that far, but it's not good.

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Speaker 14: I'm gonna say no, no, no, you sounded that far

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Speaker 14: in the opening sac but you're.

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Speaker 7: I'm frustrated right now. I am frustrated right.

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Speaker 12: Now, elaborates, I don't know that I call me.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't call it a I'm not at dumpster fire level.

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Speaker 7: I'm at as I said, we're in safety mode.

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Speaker 18: The chin's not.

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Speaker 7: Gonna blow up, but we're not gonna be able to

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Speaker 7: go for more than thirty five miles an hour.

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Speaker 14: That's probably a good way to put it. Honestly, I

507
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Speaker 14: think that they thought, hey, we can win with a

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Speaker 14: more conservative, less erratic quarterback. My only pushback to as

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Speaker 14: far as the consistency and safety mode of Daniel Jones

510
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Speaker 14: is that he's not throughout his career outside of twenty

511
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Speaker 14: twenty two, he hasn't really been that player. And yes,

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Speaker 14: his competioning percentage is over sixty percent for his career.

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Speaker 14: I think it's one of I want to say, sixty

514
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Speaker 14: four point one or something like that, which is actually

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Speaker 14: a pretty good percentage. But again, and I'm not here

516
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Speaker 14: sitting saying, oh my gosh, kem, they benched Anthony again.

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Speaker 14: He had, He's had a rough goal of it his

518
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Speaker 14: first two years. His camp wasn't all that great to me,

519
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Speaker 14: No one really won. That battle was more like the

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Speaker 14: picking the lesser of two eagles. But for Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 14: I just don't want to go too far the other

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Speaker 14: way with inflating what we've seen documented a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 14: the guy is twenty games under five hundred as a

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Speaker 14: quarterback in the NFL. Now, I get that that isn't

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Speaker 14: all on him, and he had some certainly some organizational

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Speaker 14: issues with the Giants, but that doesn't mean he gets

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Speaker 14: absolved everything either. So that's that's kind of where I'm at.

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Speaker 13: Kevin.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, hell, he's played what seventy seven games,

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Speaker 10: and I want to say he's sixty nine. He's nearing

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Speaker 10: one hundred turnovers in his career, So you know, when

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Speaker 10: you think about consistency, certainly not from a ball security standpoint. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: I think Colt's frustration from fans is rooted in a

534
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Speaker 10: couple of different areas. One, they've seen this song and

535
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Speaker 10: dance before. They feel like Dan Jones is just Jacoby Brissett,

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Speaker 10: He's Carson Wentz, He's Gardner Minshew, he's Joe Flack, he's

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Speaker 10: Matt Ryan. You know, the Colts have attempted this sort

538
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Speaker 10: of safe band aid operation and it's gotten you to

539
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Speaker 10: this point now six years into the Andrew Luck post

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Speaker 10: playing career, and so I think that's where probably a

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Speaker 10: lot of the frustration, And honestly, yesterday for me was

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Speaker 10: just a further reminder of as we say here right

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Speaker 10: now August twentieth, heading into Anthony Richardson's year three in

544
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Speaker 10: the NFL, the pick has just been an utter organizational failure.

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Speaker 10: It was a failure and evaluation of him at Florida.

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Speaker 10: It was a failure in thinking that development could occur

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Speaker 10: on and off the field. And you can go back

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Speaker 10: to that draft whatever, not offering Carolina what needed to

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Speaker 10: be offered to get to the number one pick and

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Speaker 10: have your choice of those quarterbacks. Your franchise quarterback is

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Speaker 10: not supposed to be holding the Microsoft surface. I would

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Speaker 10: say clipboard, but I need to go with the times.

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Speaker 10: Not supposed to be holding the Microsoft surface heading into

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Speaker 10: year three. So staff wise, it's been the same operation.

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Speaker 10: It's been Shane Ssyke and Jim Bob Cooter and Cam

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Speaker 10: Turner now for three years. You know when Andrew Luck

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Speaker 10: was drafted Chuck Pagano. One thing I think Chuck didn't

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Speaker 10: mess around with was that first offensive staff. I mean

559
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Speaker 10: he had Bruce Arians and Clyde Christiansen as Andrew lux

560
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Speaker 10: offensive coordinator and quarterback coach. That Arian's and Christensen resume

561
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Speaker 10: a little different than what the Colts have with Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 10: Think about the first substantial backup of Andrew Luck's career,

563
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Speaker 10: Matt Hasselbeck. That's a little different than Gardner. Mitchell wanted

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Speaker 10: no part of teaching Anthony Richardson, Joe Flacco. He wanted

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Speaker 10: to teach as much as James Boyd wants to be

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Speaker 10: a father right now. Yeah, and obviously Daniel Jones is

567
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Speaker 10: trying to resurrect his career, So you've never gone with

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Speaker 10: that sort of Hey, even like New York for example,

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Speaker 10: And Shane brought this up yesterday, Who did Daniel Jones

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Speaker 10: have in New York when he got drafted? Eli Manning

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Speaker 10: to obviously watch how his work ethic played out there.

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Speaker 10: So again, to me, it's just an organizational failure so

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Speaker 10: far with Anthony Richardson, and so much of it is

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Speaker 10: rooted in the misevaluation at Florida, and then I think

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Speaker 10: probably I go next to just Shane Steichen's blinders and

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Speaker 10: thinking believing, no, no, no, I can get this guy

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Speaker 10: to whatever an acceptable level, and obviously that's not happened

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Speaker 10: at all.

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Speaker 14: I think you made a very good point there, Kevin,

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Speaker 14: and celebrate on that more and probably put it more

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Speaker 14: blunner if that is a proper way to.

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Speaker 7: Use a term, so a good lee, I think we'd

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Speaker 7: go blunt.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, blunt lee, bluntner or whatever. Blunt We're twenty somewhere.

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Speaker 14: I think that yesterday was an admittance by the franchise

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Speaker 14: that they whift on the most important pick of the

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Speaker 14: Chris Ballard era. That's as plainly and succinct as I

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Speaker 14: can put it. You missed, that is what all of

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Speaker 14: this looks like. Now you can tell us you have

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Speaker 14: a plan for Anthony Richardson, this isn't the end, and

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Speaker 14: you have these two timelines you're trying to win right now.

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Speaker 14: But we're gonna still believe in our guy. The bottom

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Speaker 14: line is you drafted a player number four overall a

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Speaker 14: couple of years ago, the highest drafted player since Andrew

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Speaker 14: Luck to become your next Andrew Luck is to become

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Speaker 14: your long term answer at the quarterback position, and you

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Speaker 14: failed miserably, and you're trying to find a life raft

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Speaker 14: and a lifeboat, and the driver of that life boat

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Speaker 14: at the moment is Daniel Jones, who, by the way,

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Speaker 14: has not had much success getting you to the island.

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Speaker 14: So I just I don't know I understand the decision again,

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Speaker 14: and going from manthey Richardson, I can't sit up here

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Speaker 14: and say it's not, you know, mostly on him, I

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Speaker 14: would think because of the injuries and some of the

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Speaker 14: immaturity things, and you know, having a bench on all

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Speaker 14: of these are a factor for sure. Inaccuracy being on

607
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Speaker 14: another big factor. However, again, man, what a decision to

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Speaker 14: make when you have to choose between Richardson or Daniel Jones. Essentially,

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Speaker 14: in my opinion, probably trying to save your jobs because

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Speaker 14: if this.

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Speaker 12: Does not work.

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Speaker 14: But that does not work, I mean, at minimum you

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Speaker 14: got to make the playoffs. Anything below that, I would

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Speaker 14: I would be hard for me to say why anybody

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Speaker 14: should be brought back.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, honestly, I think you can make the argument of

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Speaker 10: the scariest part might be the cold scratching call in

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Speaker 10: their way to like nine or ten wins and then

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Speaker 10: you give Daniel Jones a three year, sixty million dollar contract.

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Speaker 14: I don't blame the coaching staff for necessarily pivoting towards.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 12: I mean, your job is to win.

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Speaker 10: And that's where Carli ers Gordon's gonna have to step

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Speaker 10: in and make probably even a harder call, because how

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Speaker 10: do you view this regime right now? Because you know,

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Speaker 10: if Chris Ballard's handing you his resume, he doesn't want

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Speaker 10: you to look at the playoff aspect to the resume.

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Speaker 10: One playoff win in nine years, zero division titles. And

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Speaker 10: then also if you wanted to play that, well, you

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Speaker 10: know we've got the young draft pick and it's going

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Speaker 10: to take a little bit more time for further evaluation. Well,

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Speaker 10: the most prized resource from a draft pick standpoint, this

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Speaker 10: franchise has had in what thirteen years, the fourth overall

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Speaker 10: pick again in year three, he's gonna wear an ear

635
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Speaker 10: piece here coming up two weeks from Sunday. That's not

636
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Speaker 10: obviously a ringing endorsement either. So, boy, there is part

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Speaker 10: of me that's like man if because I don't think

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Speaker 10: the Colts are going to fall off a cliff. I

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Speaker 10: don't think they're gonna be some top five, top ten

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Speaker 10: drafting team. I early don't. So if they get to

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Speaker 10: the end of the season, and let's say it goes

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Speaker 10: like the New York Giants twenty twenty two season, the

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Speaker 10: Colts go nine to six and one, Daniel Jones looks competent.

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Speaker 10: What are you doing, you extended, Daniel Jones. You're running

645
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Speaker 10: a back with ballad and Stichens. So I'll tell you

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Speaker 10: the last team that did that, with the New York Giants,

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Speaker 10: that gave him a four year deal after that season,

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Speaker 10: and look what happened from there. So that I think

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Speaker 10: is going to be and I know I'm looking ahead

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Speaker 10: a little bit, but I think that could be a

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Speaker 10: very very interesting and difficult situation of why do you

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Speaker 10: feel like the one year hit potentially here in Indy

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Speaker 10: will be any different than the one year hit was

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Speaker 10: with the New York Giants.

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Speaker 7: Anthony writes in speaking for a lot of folks here

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Speaker 7: on the fan text line, good morning, guys, Let's just

657
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Speaker 7: get real. I know what's your job to talk about

658
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Speaker 7: this stuff. I know the Colts fans are upset. I'm

659
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Speaker 7: a Colts fan, but I mean to have any defense

660
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Speaker 7: of Anthony Richardson for his first three years. The guy

661
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Speaker 7: can't stay healthy. He's below fifty percent completion ratio. He

662
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Speaker 7: shouldn't even be in the NFL. If so, he should

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Speaker 7: be a running back or something other than a quarterback.

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Speaker 7: And why we keep defending or people call in and

665
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Speaker 7: say he should be starting is completely crazy in my mind.

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Speaker 7: And here's how I would address that. Is Anthony Richardson

667
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Speaker 7: one of the top twenty five quarterbacks in the NFL.

668
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Speaker 7: No he's not. Is Daniel Jones, No he's not. It

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Speaker 7: goes back to a broader thing that is a complete

670
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Speaker 7: indictment on the way that they have judged and or

671
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Speaker 7: failed to develop quarterbacks over the last ever since really

672
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Speaker 7: Philip Rivers left, they haven't been able to find the guy.

673
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Speaker 7: They haven't really been able to do it, and they

674
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Speaker 7: keep trying, they keep trying. All I can tell you

675
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Speaker 7: is that Anthony Richardson was eight and seven as a starter.

676
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Speaker 7: Not great, but they got some things done. There were

677
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Speaker 7: clear issues. Nobody was more unhappy about him taking himself

678
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Speaker 7: out of a game than I was. The completion percentage

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Speaker 7: is unacceptable. I get all that stuff, but I'll also

680
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Speaker 7: tell you James that he's younger than a lot of

681
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Speaker 7: the rookies that are in the NFL this year.

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Speaker 12: See, okay, can I push back on that?

683
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Speaker 7: You can push back. I'm just saying.

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Speaker 12: I'm just saying, don't care about his age anymore.

685
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Speaker 14: What does in age matter when you still have to

686
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Speaker 14: make a decision on his contract, Like his contract doesn't

687
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Speaker 14: freeze because he's twenty three. So after this season you

688
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Speaker 14: have to decide do we pick up his fifth year option?

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Speaker 14: And then after that you got decide do we want

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Speaker 14: to pay this guy? So I just what do you

691
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Speaker 14: think he commands on the open market?

692
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Speaker 12: Not much?

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Speaker 7: Well, there you go.

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Speaker 17: I saw it for trade proposals for the Rams and

695
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Speaker 17: the Colts, and the Rams are getting Anthony Richardson for

696
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Speaker 17: like a fifth and sixth round pick, and I'm like

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Speaker 17: that seems to I would even take.

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Speaker 14: The end out of that fifth and what I mean fourth,

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Speaker 14: I believe I remember correctly. I don't understand that. That's

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Speaker 14: my I get why you might want to stick with Anthony,

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Speaker 14: but the age thing to me means nothing at this point.

702
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Speaker 14: I don't really care.

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Speaker 10: I think it's almost impossible for anyone to stand on

704
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Speaker 10: a mountain for Daniel Jones and or Anthony Richardson and

705
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Speaker 10: make a case for them to be the starting quarterback

706
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Speaker 10: and have no one poke holes in it. Like how

707
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Speaker 10: many times yesterday did I say to you guys, whatever

708
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Speaker 10: name Shanmesdyken says today, and I thought it would be

709
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Speaker 10: Daniel Jones, It's going to be the lesser of two evils.

710
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Speaker 10: Like that is the reality of where you are at.

711
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Speaker 10: But I will continue to reiterate what I've said now

712
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Speaker 10: for years. Band aids only get you so far, particularly

713
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Speaker 10: in this conference, Like we're talking about the AFC in

714
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Speaker 10: a golden era of quarterbacks. They all are still young,

715
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Speaker 10: and we're not even going with Joe Burrow in Cincinnati

716
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Speaker 10: or hell Tua has made two playoff appearances with the

717
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Speaker 10: Miami Dolphins. Right now, if you're a New England Patriots fan,

718
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Speaker 10: you're probably pretty optimistic about Drake May. Like those franchises

719
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Speaker 10: aren't even one of the seven playoff teams that we

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Speaker 10: saw from last year. And it comes back to why

721
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Speaker 10: did Kansas City move on from Alex Smith and got

722
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Speaker 10: Patrick Mahomes. Why did Baltimore move on from Joe Flacco

723
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Speaker 10: and draft Lamar Jackson. Buffalo was a playoff team right

724
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Speaker 10: before Josh Allen arrived there in twenty eighteen. Look at

725
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Speaker 10: what the Minnesota Vikings have done over the last couple years.

726
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Speaker 10: Kirk Cousins was fine. They went out, they drafted JJ McCarthy.

727
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Speaker 10: They let Sam Donald walk after a nice season. If

728
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Speaker 10: Daniel Jones has the exact same season that Sam Donald

729
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Speaker 10: had this past year in Minnesota, you're gonna hand him

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Speaker 10: a three or four year deal, or you're gonna opt

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Speaker 10: for that twenty twenty six draft. You have to go

732
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Speaker 10: and find the quarterback that tries and tries to give

733
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Speaker 10: your franchise the highest ceiling. The Daniel joneses, those band

734
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Speaker 10: aid type quarterbacks, they're just going to keep you stuck

735
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Speaker 10: in quarterback purgatory. And if you're in quarterback purgatory in

736
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Speaker 10: the NFL, you're in hell.

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Speaker 7: You're not wrong. And again, when I stump for Anthony

738
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Speaker 7: Richardson today, it should be somewhat faint and mute. I

739
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Speaker 7: just don't think Daniel Jones is really any kind of

740
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Speaker 7: your answer moving forward. I don't know what you want,

741
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Speaker 7: what you're expecting to get from him.

742
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Speaker 10: Well, let's get into like what Stiking is thinking here.

743
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Speaker 10: Stiking is going Daniel Jones and his thought processes, and

744
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Speaker 10: again I am speaking for Shane steike In here, so

745
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Speaker 10: feel free to poke holes at me. He is bullish

746
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Speaker 10: who poker on himself as a play caller. He thinks

747
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Speaker 10: he is an elite play caller, and so he wants

748
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Speaker 10: the x's and o's that are drawn up on Tuesday

749
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Speaker 10: and Wednesday to look like that on Sunday. He's thinking

750
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Speaker 10: the Colts have a great run game with Jonathan Taylor.

751
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Speaker 10: He's thinking the Colts have a great offensive line. He's

752
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Speaker 10: thinking the Colts have improved pass catchers, and he's expecting

753
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Speaker 10: this defense to be a better than bottom third unit

754
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Speaker 10: in the NFL. He's basically saying the New York Giants

755
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Speaker 10: were the definition of dysfunction around the kind of which

756
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Speaker 10: is kind of scary to think that they ran the

757
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Speaker 10: Colts off the field last year. But that's neither here

758
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 10: nor there. That's what he's thinking, and so that's why

759
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Speaker 10: he's going with Daniel Jones because I want to have

760
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Speaker 10: as much control over this situation as I can, and

761
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Speaker 10: I feel like Daniel Jones gives me that. And again

762
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Speaker 10: we'll see, is it. Gardner Minshew twenty twenty three, where

763
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Speaker 10: You're one play away from making the playoffs? Is Daniel

764
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Speaker 10: Jones better than Gardner Minshew?

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Speaker 7: So me ask you a questions.

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Speaker 12: Let's say he gets Probably honestly, I.

767
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Speaker 10: Do think he's better than Gardner Minshew, and your defense

768
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Speaker 10: takes a little bit of a step forward. Then in

769
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Speaker 10: Shane seconds eyes to the colt are playoffs, right, So a

770
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Speaker 10: question to do that.

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Speaker 7: If they go to the playoffs, the wild card and

772
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Speaker 7: they get beating the wild card, but they get to

773
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Speaker 7: the playoffs, Now what do you do with Daniel Jones

774
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Speaker 7: moving forward?

775
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Speaker 10: It's terrifical, right, you're right back where you started exactly

776
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 10: so again, but from their perspective, they would much rather

777
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Speaker 10: have that on their resume to say, well, at least they.

778
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Speaker 14: Made the playoffs before you try to think about changing

779
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Speaker 14: anything up. Trust me, we made the playoffs. We ended

780
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Speaker 14: the drought, Hey, we made we had success this year.

781
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Speaker 10: I get why Shane Stikeen is doing what he's doing.

782
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Speaker 10: I get it. I just don't agree with how the

783
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Speaker 10: organization has handled Anthony Richardson, and Anthony richard has handled

784
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Speaker 10: himself since day one. Again, to me, it's just an

785
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Speaker 10: organizational failure in the evaluation at Florida. And then the

786
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Speaker 10: handling till he was good enough to handle the line

787
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Speaker 10: of scrimmage stuff on September tenth, twenty twenty three, but

788
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Speaker 10: on September seventh, twenty twenty five, he's no longer able

789
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Speaker 10: to handle that. To me, it's been just a mishandling

790
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Speaker 10: since day one.

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Speaker 7: I kind of feel like they're trying to plug the

792
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Speaker 7: holes of the boat and just keep the boat afloat

793
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Speaker 7: until they can figure out a better answer. Right now,

794
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Speaker 7: it's kind of what it feels like.

795
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Speaker 14: Well, yeah, And I think the argument, at least from

796
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Speaker 14: the upproff heard from the fan base, I think they're

797
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Speaker 14: valid in this instance, is like, Okay, if you miss

798
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Speaker 14: on Anthony, which I think at this point I don't

799
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Speaker 14: see how you don't count that as a miss for

800
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Speaker 14: a pick or for the franchise, why should any of

801
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Speaker 14: you have an opportunity to go get the next guy?

802
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 14: In theory, if it doesn't work out with Daniel Jones,

803
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Speaker 14: if it doesn't work we out with Anthony Richardson, then

804
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Speaker 14: why should we trust you to make the decision again

805
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 14: at quarterback when it is the most important position probably

806
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Speaker 14: in North American.

807
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Speaker 12: Sports, so.

808
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Speaker 10: Not South American sports.

809
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Speaker 12: Do they have American football down there.

810
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 10: Maybe a striker. I guess Brazil coming up in week two.

811
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Speaker 10: Most important position on the soccer field.

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Speaker 7: Uh, the nine.

813
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Speaker 12: I'm gonna say goalie because.

814
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Speaker 7: The striker middle of the field forward nine.

815
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Speaker 10: Okay, so that's like a madder. You're done, all right,

816
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Speaker 10: but we talk in D eleven. How's the mL stadium

817
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Speaker 10: update here locally?

818
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Speaker 12: It's it's a good day for boy.

819
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Speaker 14: You can out there for the nobles will boom making

820
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Speaker 14: some announcements, I believe yesterday.

821
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Speaker 12: So yeah, if you if you.

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Speaker 14: Want to pivot away from our circular talks about quarterbacks,

823
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Speaker 14: feel free.

824
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Speaker 7: Kevin jeff with J says they kept saying last year

825
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Speaker 7: that all Richardson needed was actual playing time. You're not

826
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Speaker 7: gonna learn how to play quarterbacks. Sitting on the bench

827
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Speaker 7: behind Daniel blanking.

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Speaker 10: Jones, Dan Jones, Dan Jones, and this is my thing.

829
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Speaker 7: You're making the move for Dan j I got it.

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Speaker 10: You gotta start it.

831
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Speaker 7: Mark helped me out Dan Jones. Is what does Dan

832
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Speaker 7: Daniel want? It's probably more.

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Speaker 10: Doesn't strike me as one that'll be too optimistic about

834
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Speaker 10: my Dan idea.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, but to add to that, Kevin, I do think

836
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Speaker 14: to an extent. The organization has to be able to

837
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Speaker 14: say or at least internally something to Anthony that because

838
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Speaker 14: if you're telling them we're not giving up on you.

839
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Speaker 14: My question to follow up, and I couldn't get a

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Speaker 14: clear answer yesterday, and I figured it wouldn't be the

841
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Speaker 14: case because your emotions are fresh and things are still

842
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Speaker 14: kind of new with the way the news came out. Obviously,

843
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Speaker 14: if Daniel being the starter, however, what is the plan

844
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Speaker 14: for Anthony?

845
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Speaker 12: That's my thing?

846
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Speaker 5: What is it?

847
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Speaker 14: Can you lay it out for me and tell me

848
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Speaker 14: how can he get better by not playing not getting

849
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Speaker 14: the reps?

850
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Speaker 12: And you know how I feel about this.

851
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Speaker 14: And Jeff, you're not in the media rooms quite as

852
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Speaker 14: often as others, but whenever anybody mentions mental reps, I

853
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Speaker 14: roll my eyes. I don't care about that. I think

854
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Speaker 14: mental reps is a myth, honestly. I mean, I've taken

855
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Speaker 14: a lot of mental reps of NFL snaps and can't

856
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Speaker 14: play a look at quarterback. So how does he get

857
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Speaker 14: better by not playing? And how do you justify that

858
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Speaker 14: part of it?

859
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Speaker 10: James, you and I chatted right after the press conference

860
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Speaker 10: ended yesterday and you were like, hey, Kevin, you know

861
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 10: that was a little feisty there. I don't do this

862
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Speaker 10: very often in the press conferences. At one point I

863
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 10: asked Shane Second three questions in a row because I

864
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Speaker 10: didn't think he was making any sense to me, right,

865
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Speaker 10: and and the root of it is what you just

866
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Speaker 10: brought up. He kept on pointing to injuries for why

867
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Speaker 10: Anthony Richardson is not better at the line of scrimmage.

868
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Speaker 10: And so my question now becomes, Okay, when he had

869
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Speaker 10: the injuries, he was getting the mental reps, right, he

870
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Speaker 10: was in the meeting rooms, and then now he's back

871
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Speaker 10: in the meeting rooms. That's where he is at again,

872
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Speaker 10: not getting these reps. And I don't know if there's

873
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Speaker 10: a bigger misconception than NFL practices in the rare season.

874
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Speaker 10: Anthony Richardson is going to run the scout team coming

875
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Speaker 10: up here in two weeks. He's gonna be the Miami

876
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Speaker 10: Dolphins in practice. He's not even gonna run the colts

877
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Speaker 10: on playbook. And we know the Colts op for Wednesday

878
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 10: walkthroughs relatively early in seasons, so that amount of practice time. Hell,

879
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Speaker 10: the guy's not even playing Saturday in a preseason game.

880
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Speaker 12: Like me, I do want to follow up on that

881
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Speaker 12: at some point with him like why isn't he like

882
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Speaker 12: I do you want to see the noise?

883
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Speaker 10: None of that makes sense to me, None of it.

884
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 10: None of it makes sense and tangibly, how do you

885
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 10: try and get your You're kicking the can further down

886
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Speaker 10: the road. And in my opinion, I think you need clarity.

887
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 10: I think you need it gets the final answer, and

888
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 10: that answer can be a bad answer. And if it's

889
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 10: a bad answer, great, that means you can move on

890
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 10: and you could dial up Field Yates as mock draft

891
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 10: and take who are they even taking Mark with the

892
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 10: eleventh pick for Nando Mendoza Penn State's Drew Aller Boy,

893
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Speaker 10: I think you just threw another one to Notre Dame.

894
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 12: To Lord I'll watched him in the basketball playoff last year.

895
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 12: You can go there.

896
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Speaker 10: You can take a kid from South Carolina, you can

897
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Speaker 10: take a kid from LSU. You get you know, pray

898
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Speaker 10: that arch comes out.

899
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Speaker 5: What you know.

900
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Speaker 10: You can move on and try to find the centerpiece

901
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Speaker 10: of your franchise. But now yesterday's news, it just further

902
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 10: kicks it down the road.

903
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Speaker 7: Mark, real quickly, let's go to the phone lines before

904
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Speaker 7: we get to Stephen Holder coming off after the break,

905
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Speaker 7: Joe real quickly here on the fan hotline. What you

906
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Speaker 7: got today?

907
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Speaker 18: Hey?

908
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Speaker 19: Thanks saging Mike off. First off, James, is that a

909
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 19: Grace College up in Warsaw shirt?

910
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Speaker 14: No, I'm sorry, see the Grace Burger Sir from Indiana

911
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 14: shout out to you legend.

912
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Speaker 12: I don't know Grace College though, all.

913
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Speaker 19: Right now anyways, No, I was called him. Just say basically,

914
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Speaker 19: you know, I'm a Colts fan. When when Jim Harwall

915
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 19: was there for Jim Harball, when Peyton Mays and so

916
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Speaker 19: on and so forth, and I think, well, he gets lost.

917
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Speaker 19: Is there's obviously something going on that maybe we just

918
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 19: don't know about. Like it's kind of like that guy

919
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 19: at work that you know he's a nice guy and

920
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Speaker 19: you know he has potential, but like he's just not

921
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Speaker 19: getting it. Like the guy just doesn't get it for

922
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Speaker 19: some reason, and you're rooting for him, and you know

923
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Speaker 19: he could be good if you could figure it out,

924
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Speaker 19: but he's just not getting it. And it's like Daniel Jones.

925
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Speaker 19: Could he be the next Sam Darnold that he turns

926
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Speaker 19: his career around. Could he be a Baker Mayfield? I mean,

927
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Speaker 19: even going way back to like a rich Gannon who

928
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Speaker 19: was a journeyman gets with John Gruden and it becomes

929
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Speaker 19: a pro bowler. Like, is it possible that Daniel Jones,

930
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 19: he's what twenty eight, twenty nine years old? Could he

931
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Speaker 19: turn his career around? Could he be the future? Is

932
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Speaker 19: it possible? I mean, we just need a guy that

933
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Speaker 19: make the layups. I think I don't we don't necessarily

934
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Speaker 19: need a guy that can hit home runs every time.

935
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Speaker 19: We need a guy that can make the layups and

936
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Speaker 19: get the ball to the playmakers. We have Tyler Warren,

937
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 19: we have Josh Towns, we have Johnathon Taylor. The defense

938
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Speaker 19: should be improved. I mean, why can't we be better?

939
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Speaker 19: Why can't we be a good, competitive, solid team. I

940
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 19: mean when Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl with the Ravens,

941
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Speaker 19: I mean they didn't have Patrick Mahomes. I mean, you

942
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Speaker 19: can win games with good defense and running the ball.

943
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Speaker 19: And I just think that we got to support our

944
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Speaker 19: colts and we got to trust these guys that do

945
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Speaker 19: this for a living. This is their career and they

946
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 19: want to win. I mean Siken wants to win.

947
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Speaker 7: We all want to win. I appreciate phone calling the perspective.

948
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Speaker 7: Joe I'll also point out that the Ravens, everybody always says,

949
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Speaker 7: you know, good defense, that was an historically great.

950
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Speaker 10: Defense of all time. Yeah, I can't Joe appreciate the call.

951
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Speaker 10: Thank you for listening. Shout out to Grace College. I

952
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 10: can't agree with that. I mean again, and where what's

953
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 10: Baker Mayfield getting you, What's Sam Darnolds getting you? What's

954
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 10: Geno Smith getting you? How many playoff wins for those quarterbacks?

955
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Speaker 10: Like everybody brings this up, like these guys have been

956
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Speaker 10: making deep playoff runs? Did I miss all this?

957
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Speaker 7: We saw? We saw when when it got real at

958
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Speaker 7: the very end of the season in quarterback pervatory, they're

959
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Speaker 7: just a little bit higher up on the wrong than

960
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Speaker 7: at the very end of the season when things got

961
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Speaker 7: real and in the first week of the playoffs, Sam

962
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Speaker 7: Donald went back to being Sam Darnel.

963
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Speaker 10: It just it feels like that premise in this conversation

964
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Speaker 10: is exactly what was said about Jacoby Brissett. It's exactly

965
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Speaker 10: what it's said about Joe Flacco's exactly what he's said

966
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Speaker 10: about Matt Ryan. It's the same song and dance, just

967
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 10: sometimes the skin color is different on the quarterback. Sometimes

968
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Speaker 10: maybe the legs are a little bit better. Sometimes the

969
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Speaker 10: back of the baseball card looks a little different. But

970
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Speaker 10: it's the same old, same old, big picture story.

971
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Speaker 7: Coming up next Steven Holder. He covers the cults at ESPN.

972
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Speaker 7: We'll talk to him next get his perspective as we

973
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Speaker 7: continue on the Fan Morning Show ninety three five and

974
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Speaker 7: one on seven.

975
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Speaker 1: He's a Fan Morning show with Chibi Chab and.

976
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Speaker 2: Jeff Daniel Jones will be our starting quarterback this season.

977
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Speaker 3: I understand this league and how it works, and you've

978
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Speaker 3: got to perform at a high level week in week out.

979
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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, we all knew somebody

980
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Speaker 4: was gonna have to be on this end of the stick,

981
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Speaker 4: and it was me.

982
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Speaker 2: Big part of it is, you know, he's been injured,

983
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: you know, and I think that's part of it. And

984
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Speaker 2: we're not recent and playing. It's hard to, you know,

985
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: go out there and do.

986
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Speaker 11: The things you want to do.

987
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 4: I feel like I did a decent job improving, but

988
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Speaker 4: there's a lot more I can do.

989
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 11: Guys heard me talk about the consistency and that's.

990
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Speaker 5: Really what I was looking for. His work ethic is phenomenal.

991
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Speaker 5: Just looking forward to carrying that through the season, you.

992
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Speaker 6: Went around the league and see if just like the

993
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 6: consistency of having quarterback behind you that's been the franchise

994
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 6: player for years and years and years and getting to

995
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 6: build that chemistry with that quarterback year after year, there

996
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Speaker 6: is an advantage too.

997
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 4: I got a trust in the Lord and I got

998
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Speaker 4: to be where I am right now, and right now

999
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 4: I'm in that goal.

1000
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 8: If Daniel Jones is the Week one starter, it's not

1001
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 8: going to be because he won the job.

1002
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Speaker 9: It's going to be because Anthony Richardson did not hold

1003
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Speaker 9: on to it. I have no confidence in Richardson. I

1004
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 9: have no confidence until I see anything of consistency. I

1005
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Speaker 9: don't have confidence in anybody.

1006
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: This league is a year to year league, and what

1007
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 2: do I feel as best for the Indianapolis Colts in

1008
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five?

1009
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 11: And I got to make these decisions. That's what I

1010
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 11: get paid to do, and I got to go with

1011
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 11: what I feel is right.

1012
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 7: Busy day at West fifty six yesterday, the Indianapolis Colts

1013
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 7: giving the nod to Daniel Jones or as Kevin is

1014
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 7: trying to get it done. Dan Jones yesterday, our next

1015
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Speaker 7: guest Joins is now on the payless Liquors Hotline, no

1016
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 7: stranger to the station, no stranger to the Colts and

1017
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 7: Colts fans. Stephen Holder, who's been a busy man like

1018
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 7: everybody else in the last I don't know, eighteen hours

1019
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 7: or so, joins us. Good morning, Steven. I'm minding my

1020
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Speaker 7: own business this morning. Listen to Sports Center on ESPN

1021
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 7: Radio this morning, and all of a sudden, at five

1022
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 7: point thirty three, I hear Steven Older coming out of

1023
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Speaker 7: my radio there. How about that?

1024
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Speaker 13: Well, I was not awake at five thirty, so thankfully,

1025
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Speaker 13: but they got a lot of airtime out of me,

1026
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Speaker 13: so I'm sure they had plenty of content, so good

1027
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Speaker 13: for them.

1028
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 7: So what was your take on everything that went down yesterday?

1029
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 13: Yeah, excuse me. I really think the first thing that

1030
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Speaker 13: has to be mentioned here is, Look, no one's pretending

1031
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 13: that that Anthony Richardson is by any means perfect or had,

1032
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 13: you know, or should feel like he had any expectation

1033
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 13: of being owed anything anything like that. Right, he has

1034
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 13: left a lot to be desired, There's no question about that.

1035
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 13: I think the big point here, the overarching point for me,

1036
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 13: is that they made this decision irrespective of the future

1037
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Speaker 13: of that position on this football team because you are

1038
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Speaker 13: not developing Anthony Richardson with him sitting on the bench.

1039
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Speaker 13: I reject that notion completely. You're not going to develop,

1040
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 13: not the way he would when he's playing. And then

1041
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 13: the other thing is you're doing that while committing to

1042
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 13: a guy who has shown really no ability to elevate

1043
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 13: his team in six previous seasons. So it's not the

1044
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 13: fact that they're not playing Anthony Richison, it's that they're

1045
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 13: doing it at the cost of finding out more about him,

1046
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 13: which they need to do, and also in favor of

1047
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 13: a guy who clearly hasn't elevated his team ever. And

1048
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 13: that is a you know, that's a tough thing to

1049
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 13: maybe accept, I think for a lot of fans. So

1050
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 13: we'll see. There's a scenario where they could be proven right.

1051
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 13: But that's a lot to ask right.

1052
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 10: Now, Steve, And I know is a crazy busy day

1053
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 10: for you, so appreciate you still making time for us

1054
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 10: here on this Wednesday morning. You furthered the story late

1055
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Speaker 10: last night in a conversation with Anthony Richardson's agent. The

1056
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 10: quote there from Derek Jackson, and we have a lot

1057
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Speaker 10: to discuss in regards to Anthony's future with the Colts.

1058
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Speaker 10: What did you make of your conversation? And didn't seem

1059
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 10: like it went all the way to the trade demand

1060
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 10: sort of point, But certainly some whatever displeasure if that's

1061
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 10: the right word to use from the Richardson camp over

1062
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 10: this news.

1063
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Speaker 13: Yeah, for sure. I mean he had not spoken to

1064
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 13: Chris Balor at that point. He was hoping to do

1065
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 13: that later in the evening, so I'm not sure what

1066
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 13: came of that, but a lot of this disappointment in

1067
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 13: that conversation, and I think the overarching point I think

1068
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Speaker 13: in the conversation was, look, you, they feel like they

1069
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Speaker 13: being you know, Derek and Anthony, Derek being his agent,

1070
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Speaker 13: they feel like we did everything you asked us to do.

1071
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Speaker 13: They you know, from the Colts, and he was asked

1072
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 13: to go out and work in the off season. Everyone

1073
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Speaker 13: agrees he did that and we saw the the product

1074
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Speaker 13: of that. I thought in training camp, I thought he

1075
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Speaker 13: was much more mechanically smooth. He looked like he was

1076
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Speaker 13: much more put together right as a quarterback. Doesn't mean

1077
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 13: he was a finished product. He certainly is not, but

1078
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 13: he took it upon himself to get better.

1079
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Speaker 19: Then.

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Speaker 13: I think there's also the history, right where the benching

1081
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 13: last season, the way that was handled it was messy,

1082
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Speaker 13: The way the back issue was kind of characterized that

1083
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 13: was that was of some annoyance as well. So it's

1084
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Speaker 13: an accumulation of things that have brought I think both

1085
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 13: of them to a point where like, we don't, we

1086
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 13: don't really, we're not really listening to anything you say.

1087
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Speaker 13: At this point, you know, what will be will be.

1088
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Speaker 13: I think that's where Richardson and his camp are at

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Speaker 13: this point.

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Speaker 10: How do you see it playing at? Like best case scenario?

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Speaker 10: Would you not best case scenario, but I know maybe

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00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 10: most realistic case, like the season rides out as the

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00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 10: backup wells, you know, and when Daniel Jones gets hurt

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00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 10: or doesn't play well, you know, perhaps we see Richardson

1095
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 10: in there again, and then maybe something happens in the offseason.

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00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 10: There's so many layers. There's probably unfair question to even ask,

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00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 10: but how do you see the Richardson end of his

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00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 10: career here in India if you want to label at

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00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 10: that playing out now?

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Speaker 13: I mean, I think the most likely scenario is that

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Speaker 13: he does remain on the roster, and I think at

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00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 13: that point, if you are Anthony Richardson, you know, well,

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00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 13: who knows what happens with the front office and coaching staff,

1104
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 13: right But but if he's on the roster at that

1105
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 13: point and he doesn't see a future here, which right

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00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 13: now would be the case, you ask for your release

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Speaker 13: or a trade. But I think that I think that

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Speaker 13: trade request is probably gonna come.

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Speaker 4: I really do.

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Speaker 13: Now do I think they trade him?

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Speaker 10: No, not necessarily before the season will come.

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Speaker 13: I mean, this is this is me talking. I'm not

1113
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 13: speaking for Derek, but I'm just saying this in terms

1114
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 13: of where they are now. I mean that it's going

1115
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 13: to come up in the conversation. Now, whether it's a

1116
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 13: formal trade request, I don't know, you know what I mean,

1117
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 13: maybe Chris can smooth it over, I don't know. But

1118
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 13: there's pissed. I'm not going to sugarcoat he's pissed. What

1119
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 13: I wrote is frankly the mildest version of that conversation. So, now,

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Speaker 13: whether you feel like they have the right to feel

1121
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 13: that way, I mean, that's up to the individual. But

1122
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 13: the feelings are what they are, right, and people feel

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Speaker 13: how they feel. So there's a lot of animosity there,

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00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 13: and I think if you watch training camp, it's not surprising, right.

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Speaker 13: I mean, we can't truly sit here and say Daniel

1126
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 13: Jones significantly outplayed Anthony Richardson. That's not true, right, But

1127
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 13: the cults are free to make whatever decision they want,

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Speaker 13: and there is a justification for it. I mean, Shane

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00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 13: gave us one. But I do think that when you

1130
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 13: feel like you've been told there's been a commitment made

1131
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 13: to you, and then it goes a different way when

1132
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 13: you feel like you did your part, that's a tough

1133
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 13: thing to swallow. So, anyway to your original question, what happens,

1134
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 13: I think he probably ends up here throughout the season.

1135
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 13: But the last thing I would say is keep in

1136
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 13: mind before or when he was drafted last season. Excuse me,

1137
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 13: when he was benched last season, excuse me, there were

1138
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 13: teams that called and said, hey, what are your plans there?

1139
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 13: They were kind of curious. So could that happen again?

1140
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 7: Stephen Holder on the palist Lickers Hotline, Go ahead, James Holder,

1141
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 7: I'll pivot to this part of the conversation because to me,

1142
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 7: I don't necessarily blame the Colts for benching Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 14: Again, I don't think that he had like the strongest

1144
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 14: argument ever I did read your story and great work there.

1145
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 14: But when I saw Derek say he had a great

1146
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 14: camp by all accounts, I was thinking not by most

1147
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 14: of our accounts. We were there every day. It was

1148
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 14: not a great camp. It was a camp in my opinion.

1149
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 14: But neither here nor there. What plan do you see

1150
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 14: the Colts having for him? That's the question I want

1151
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 14: to ask Shane and Richardson.

1152
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 12: But like, what is the plan?

1153
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 14: If you're telling us you're not giving up on him,

1154
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 14: and this is what it looks and feels like, what

1155
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 14: is the plan? And I guess where do you kind

1156
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 14: of fall in that discussion?

1157
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 13: I mean, I think it's a bad plan. The plan

1158
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 13: is to let him run the scout team.

1159
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 18: Okay, well, whoop do you do?

1160
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 13: I mean this isn't going to get him anywhere, is

1161
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 13: what I'm saying. So if the priority here is we're

1162
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 13: going to try to win and save our jobs, then

1163
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 13: all right, And I guess they think they're doing the

1164
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 13: right thing. If the priority is we want to develop

1165
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 13: this quarterback and also give ourselves a chance that maybe

1166
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 13: having a chance at a higher ceiling just because he

1167
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 13: is the unknown commodity, right, And I get it right,

1168
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 13: there's some risk involved there in the bigger picture, and

1169
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 13: maybe that's not a maybe that's not a path they're

1170
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 13: willing to walk. But if that's not a consideration, then

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00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 13: basically what you're saying is you're taking a time out

1172
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 13: with Anthony Richardson, you know what I mean, Like, he's

1173
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 13: not Riley Leonard who needs to go learn how to

1174
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 13: like you know, how to learn NFL defenses and that

1175
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 13: kind of thing. I mean, Anthony Richardson needs more development there.

1176
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 13: But the man has played NFL football, right, So that

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00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 13: type of learning is only going to help him so much.

1178
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 13: And the point I made on TV is that he

1179
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 13: had that in year one. He had thirteen games of

1180
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 13: watching Gardner Minshew and Shane Syken do their thing and

1181
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 13: that got him where, right, So that type of learning

1182
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 13: has a limited effect. You got to play, and he

1183
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 13: will not be playing. So I see this as frankly

1184
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 13: potentially a wasted year for Anthony Richardson. I don't really

1185
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 13: see how you phrased it any other way. The other

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00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 13: thing I would say is that if you are if

1187
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 13: you commit to a quarterback, if you commit to drafting

1188
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 13: a project quarterback, you got to see it through and

1189
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 13: they're not seeing it through. That is just is what

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00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 13: it is, and they have to own that and they

1191
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 13: are not.

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Speaker 14: And then to follow up, you mentioned a project quarterback

1193
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 14: part And obviously for Anthony, I think a lot of

1194
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 14: the reason he's here was because Shane advocated for him

1195
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 14: be here. Now Shane is advocating for Daniel Jones.

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00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 4: And so.

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00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 14: Two part question here, how much of Anthony Richardson's lack

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Speaker 14: of development do you think falls on Shane Stichen? And

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Speaker 14: then how much should he be trusted with the resurrection

1200
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 14: because that's what you're trying to do with Daniel Jones,

1201
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 14: trying to resurrect his career. How much should he be

1202
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 14: trusted with that?

1203
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 12: In regards to.

1204
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 13: Jones, I mean, I think you have to ask questions,

1205
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 13: and some of this stuff is impossible to answer, right

1206
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 13: because none of us are in the meeting room. We're

1207
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 13: not in the huddle or any of that.

1208
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 18: So I don't know.

1209
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 12: But was your ESPN access to get in there?

1210
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 13: Come on, man, It's funny how there's limitations how far

1211
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 13: they can get you. Just it's interesting though. I think

1212
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 13: your question is totally fair, and I think we have

1213
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 13: to ask those questions. You know, we won't get straight answers, maybe,

1214
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 13: but those are fair questions because we talk all the

1215
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 13: time about these quarterbacks that had these second acts. They

1216
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 13: go somewhere else and certainly and suddenly they start to flourish. Well,

1217
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 13: you know, we don't talk about enough in those situations.

1218
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 13: It's not just experienced necessarily. Some of it is experienced

1219
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 13: in time and so forth. But maybe the question should

1220
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 13: also be asked, well, what happened in those earlier stops?

1221
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 13: How were they handled?

1222
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 18: How were they coached?

1223
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 11: How were they developed?

1224
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 4: Right?

1225
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 13: I mean that's a question too. Why does it have

1226
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 13: to take five or six years? Is that all about

1227
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 13: experience or are there other things that work too? So

1228
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 13: I do think you can't come. You can't put all

1229
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 13: this on the twenty three year old quarterback who didn't

1230
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 13: know what the hell he was doing.

1231
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 4: Okay, let's just be honest, right.

1232
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 13: You can't put all of it on him. Some of

1233
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 13: it's on him, for sure, and he's got to be

1234
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 13: a serious quarterback and a serious individual, which I think

1235
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 13: is finally happening, But not all of it is on Anthony.

1236
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 13: Some of it has to be on the team that

1237
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 13: took him knowing who he was and what he was

1238
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 13: when they drafted him.

1239
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 7: Steven, Great to see you this past weekend. Good to

1240
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 7: hear you this morning. We'll run into each other again soon.

1241
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 7: Thank you for being here.

1242
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 13: All right, let's talk about.

1243
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 7: You bet Steven Holder ESPN joining us on the Payless

1244
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 7: Liquors Hotline.

1245
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 10: Does Richardson have merit to request the trade?

1246
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 7: His agent seems to think, so, okay, can you on that?

1247
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 18: What do you mean?

1248
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:22,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1249
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 10: I mean, like, okay, trade request from Terry mclaur It

1250
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 10: sounds a little different than you know, Trey Hendrickson, than

1251
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 10: Anthony Richardson. Like, I am of the belief that I

1252
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 10: think it'd be beneficial for the Colts to get further clarity.

1253
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 10: I continue the the see the project out. I think

1254
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 10: maybe as the phrase that Stephen used, I agree with

1255
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 10: Stephen on that. But I also can sit here and say, dude,

1256
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 10: is a trade request really what you're going for right now?

1257
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 10: Like there's part of me just thinks Anthony Richardson the

1258
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 10: best case scenario for him is swallow your pride. You're

1259
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 10: one play away. James Boyd is Daniel Jones ever finished

1260
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 10: in entire season healthy in his NFL.

1261
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 12: Career, One out of his first six so far.

1262
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 10: And if I'm not mistaken, I believe that several of

1263
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 10: those years had multiple games missed.

1264
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, I believe in his.

1265
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,479
Speaker 14: Six years as a quarterback in the NFL, he's missed

1266
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 14: at least two games due to injury or benching.

1267
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 10: So if I'm ready for four out of the six,

1268
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 10: stay with the offense you're familiar with, see it out,

1269
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 10: and then at the end of the season you go

1270
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 10: from there. I don't I understand agent displeasure. I get

1271
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 10: you need to do the media thing to reach out,

1272
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 10: you know, I understand where he's going with it, But

1273
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 10: I don't think you crossed the line and go full

1274
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 10: on trade trade request here next week. I don't see

1275
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 10: that as benefits for for Anthony right now.

1276
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 18: I don't.

1277
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 12: I don't see that either. But at the same time,

1278
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 12: the moment this season ends everything.

1279
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 10: Sure, But like you know, okay, let he gets traded

1280
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 10: to the Rams tomorrow.

1281
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 12: Oh he'd love that. I'd love that.

1282
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 10: Matthew Stafford's back injury. He turns in to be a

1283
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 10: chronic thing, you know. So now Jimmy Garoppolo is a

1284
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 10: starter and Richardson's backup. Garoppolo gets hurt in week three.

1285
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 10: You think that's great for Anthony Richardson to walk into

1286
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 10: a new offense here in a month and go play.

1287
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 10: To me, that's not beneficial for the kids' career.

1288
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 15: Might be it's one thing for a veteran I was

1289
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 15: going to say to Kevin's point, to his point, James,

1290
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 15: it's one thing for Baker Mayfield and experienced guy who's

1291
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 15: played in multiple offenses occasionally at a high level.

1292
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 7: To go into Los Angeles in one week and be

1293
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 7: able to be effect crazy, right. But my point is

1294
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 7: is he'd been around the block a few times and

1295
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 7: had an understanding of NFL offenses.

1296
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 12: Anthony Richardson's not.

1297
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 10: He's a Heisman Trophy winning college quarterball.

1298
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 7: So my point is is, I don't think it's likely

1299
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 7: that Anthony Richardson is going to pick up a playbook

1300
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 7: on Monday and on Sunday turn into a three hundred

1301
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 7: yard passer all of a sudden.

1302
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 12: I don't think that either. I also think a change

1303
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 12: of scenery can do the body.

1304
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 10: Changing scenery in August or changing scenery in January, change

1305
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 10: of scenery in general. Like I think just he I

1306
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 10: think his time in India, I see No. Twenty twenty

1307
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 10: five success for him elsewhere. To me, the best case

1308
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 10: scenario is at the first sign of Daniel Jones having issues. Hell,

1309
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 10: this fan base might boo Daniel Jones when he runs

1310
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 10: out for the opening snap two Sundays from now.

1311
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 12: I think that'd be more of an indictment on the

1312
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 12: front office though, than Daniel Jones.

1313
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 10: Soon Daniel Kevin. Yeah, as soon as Daniel Jones screws

1314
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 10: up or gets hurt, Anthony Richardson is going in there.

1315
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 5: That.

1316
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 12: Okay, So I do want to say this, what do

1317
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 12: you screwed up?

1318
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 10: Because I know Shane said there's no leads the whole season.

1319
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 10: He said the same at Joel.

1320
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 12: Should we believe that.

1321
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 10: I saw Chefter running with that last yesterday? I'm like, Checkter,

1322
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 10: You're not that dumb.

1323
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 12: No, Like, I didn't really buy that either. Come on,

1324
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 12: like I didn't buy that either.

1325
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 10: Yes, Do I believe that, you know, Daniel Jones is

1326
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 10: gonna get a significant amount of time being the starting quarterback?

1327
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 18: Yes?

1328
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 10: I also realize the seventeen game season is light years long,

1329
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 10: light years long, and as James just pointed out, the

1330
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 10: Daniel Jones injury resume is not clean.

1331
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 12: So yeah, he's kind of been banged up in his

1332
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 12: career too.

1333
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 14: I want to say he's missed like twenty percent of

1334
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 14: the games he was both playing his career, So he's

1335
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 14: not like this picture perfect and that's.

1336
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 10: A Giants fans like talking more with Giants people, They're like,

1337
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 10: if you go back to that twenty twenty two season,

1338
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 10: Jones was a great runner in that year.

1339
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 7: Seven hundred yards plus in that year.

1340
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 10: Injuries have happened since and he's not been the same runner.

1341
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 10: How willing of a runner is he? How much does

1342
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,479
Speaker 10: that help him out in that twenty twenty two season.

1343
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 10: As we sit here right now, I mean I'd be

1344
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 10: stunned to Anthony Richardson didn't take another snap for the call.

1345
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 10: I mean, like he's gonna play in twenty twenty.

1346
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 18: Five, right.

1347
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 10: Didn't we do this debate yesterday? You guys said better chance? Well,

1348
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 10: was it AFC Championship or better chance? One quarterback starts

1349
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 10: all seventeen Yeah?

1350
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 12: I picked one quarterback starts all seventeen games.

1351
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 14: And then my copy out right there, Kevin, as you said,

1352
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 14: Anthony taking a nap, he ain't gotta start take a snap,

1353
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 14: So you know a couple of Neil downs, you know,

1354
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 14: what winning for.

1355
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 12: You know, were gonna ball, I win and I win

1356
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 12: that bet here we go.

1357
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 7: I like this when kJ from Brownsburg says Daniel Jones sucks,

1358
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 7: Dan Jones is the future.

1359
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,959
Speaker 10: Dan Jones put him on the side of the building

1360
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 10: right now.

1361
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 12: You clean that part up too, because he said more.

1362
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 12: You got that in a little bit the.

1363
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: Morning checkout on nuety sweet five and one oh seven

1364
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: five the fan.

1365
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 7: That's what I like about the text line, Mark, I

1366
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 7: can edit a little bit as we go here. Anthony

1367
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 7: Richardson is no longer the starting quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts.

1368
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 7: Daniel Jones or Dan Jones's KB likes to call him,

1369
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 7: will be the starting quarterback for this season. We heard

1370
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 7: that from Shane Stike in yesterday. We are getting lots

1371
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 7: of feedback on the fan text line this morning, lots

1372
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 7: of feedback from folks who covered the NFL and the team.

1373
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 7: What was the team saying about this after after practice

1374
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 7: yesterday day, Kevin, what was their reaction to everything?

1375
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 10: Yeah? I actually thought there were some candid comments in there, James.

1376
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 10: You know, maybe after the break we hit on maybe

1377
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 10: some of Ady Mitchell stuff, some Quent Nelson stuff. I

1378
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 10: thought both of them had Yeah.

1379
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 14: KB buttered up Quentin Nelson very nice yesterday and got

1380
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 14: him to open up, and I was like, wow, that

1381
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 14: Kevin Bowen is a great interviewer.

1382
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 10: I felt bad there because you and I were doing

1383
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 10: the hey, who's gonna ask the next question? I was like,

1384
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 10: just okay, James, you go ahead, and quent Nelson treated.

1385
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 12: You like, yeah, he still farmed me. It's okay, like

1386
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 12: that play.

1387
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 10: Potty treated me. And then I just got lucky that

1388
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 10: somehow he answered mine.

1389
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,439
Speaker 12: But Hevin showed his Notre Dame allegiance and he's like, okay,

1390
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 12: I'll let you in a little bit.

1391
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 10: I thought Nelson was really candid and really honest. It's

1392
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 10: frustrating to have what is this, eight quarterbacks in seven

1393
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 10: and eight years. I think that's right for kit Nelson's career,

1394
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 10: so they just keep counting. But at the same time,

1395
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 10: I thought Adi Mitchell was like, I love Daniel Jones's

1396
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 10: work ethic and it's very, very impressive, and Tyler Warren

1397
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 10: kind of echoed that. So yeah, you know, I think

1398
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 10: I said to you guys yesterday, I think the locker

1399
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 10: room is pretty split on this. I think there is

1400
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 10: like a genuine appreciation for what Daniel Jones is bringing.

1401
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,439
Speaker 10: But there's also for guys like Nelson who've been locking

1402
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 10: on for a while, there's like a holy bleep, we're

1403
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 10: doing the same children's museum carousel once again.

1404
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 17: I was gonna say, don't you think that it's it's

1405
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 17: interesting that Adie Mitchell and Tyler warn two young guys.

1406
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 12: I think that it's fine. I'm the guys are kind

1407
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 12: of like.

1408
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 14: What can Adi Mitchell say that holds any merit for

1409
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 14: any quarterback discussion right now? Nothing touche?

1410
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 7: Uh. Good news for the Colts, James. We had a

1411
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 7: couple of guys returned from injury yesterday.

1412
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 14: Yes, Kenny Moore was back from his knee injury, Bernard

1413
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 14: Rome was back from his ankle injury, and Alec Pierce

1414
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 14: was out there back from his groin injury. But they

1415
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 14: also lost Sam Walmack to what appeared to be a

1416
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 14: hamstring injury in eleven on eleven, so that cornerback Rome again.

1417
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 14: You get one guy to come back, a very important

1418
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 14: guy in Kenny Moore, but some of that depth Samuel

1419
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 14: Womack you kind of lose there.

1420
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 12: I think that he might miss some time.

1421
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 7: I worry too for him for the season, because he's

1422
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 7: one of those guys that was fighting for a position too, right, Yeah.

1423
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 14: I think that he was in the running to possibly start,

1424
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 14: you know, week one, and I think that's why you

1425
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 14: bring in a guy like Xavion Howard who had a

1426
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 14: nice PBu yesterday only for Tyler Warrens so catched the football.

1427
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 12: So that was a bit conundrum.

1428
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 7: There some good news too for the Indiana Pacers. It

1429
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 7: was announced yesterday that Rick Carlisle Kevin Bowen has been

1430
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 7: given an extension and will remain the head coach for

1431
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 7: the Indiana Pacers for the foreseeable future. And I think

1432
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 7: we're all happy with that.

1433
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, obviously makes total total sense the definition of earning this,

1434
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 10: you know. I think one thing that's impressive about Rick is,

1435
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 10: you know, maybe this is an age stereotype, but I

1436
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 10: think times you get coaches in professional sports that have

1437
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 10: been around for a while, they have difficult evolving with

1438
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 10: the times. Rick Carlisle has more than evolved with the times,

1439
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 10: you know, even here when he took the Pacers job,

1440
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 10: Initially the thought was brogged in sibonas Turner and then

1441
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 10: it was like, oh boy, we got a reset, and

1442
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 10: they've done that, and obviously they've you know, adapted to

1443
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 10: a style that the rest of the NBA is like, man,

1444
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 10: should we do more of that? The player development has

1445
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 10: been there as well, So tremendous job by Rick Carlyle.

1446
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 10: And you know there was years where he was coaching

1447
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 10: the Pacers to wins when they were scoring seventy five

1448
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 10: and now he's coaching him to wins when they're scoring

1449
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 10: one hundred and twenty. So well deserved by one of

1450
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 10: the best coaches in NBA history.

1451
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 7: All right, to cross the Hall. Not so great news

1452
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,959
Speaker 7: for the Indiana Fever. The injury bug continues to bite

1453
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 7: and bite hard. Sophie Cunningham and went down with a

1454
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 7: knee injury this past weekend. Had an MRI, it's an

1455
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 7: MCL problem and James she will not return for the

1456
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 7: Indiana Fever in twenty twenty five.

1457
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 14: Yeah, she actually spoke about this on her podcast, So

1458
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 14: she was just saying, how oddly enough, she feels pretty

1459
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 14: positive about situation and feels very loved by her teammates.

1460
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 14: And so we'll just see if the Fever can somehow

1461
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 14: continue to tread water and try to get into the playoffs.

1462
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 14: And then, obviously, the bigger news on that front is

1463
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 14: if and when CC kiln Clark returns.

1464
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 7: All right, let's talk Aboutjor League baseball. Mark Tyke in

1465
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 7: the Chicago Cubs not only one six or four in

1466
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 7: the first game of two against the Milwaukee Brewers. They

1467
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 7: came back improved it by winning the second game four

1468
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 7: to one against the Milwaukee Brewers. In the first game,

1469
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 7: Will Castro had a three run shot Game two, Michael

1470
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 7: Bush had a pair of RBIs. Also guys getting a

1471
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 7: home run singles in key moments.

1472
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 12: Own Casey top prospect, Yeah, pretty good yesterday. I'll take it,

1473
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 12: all right.

1474
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 7: So they are now seven games behind the Brewers in

1475
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 7: the National League. Centi, tough one.

1476
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 17: Today, Mizerowski. They're young ace on the Brewers. They're going

1477
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 17: up against Colin Ray today, So a tough one today.

1478
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 17: Get another one though, I'll start feeling really good, all right.

1479
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 7: Cincinnati Red's also got a victory over the Los Angeles Angels,

1480
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 7: six to four was the final score. They are Reds

1481
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 7: have won three straight games, and Alvie Marte had a

1482
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 7: solo home run his tenth of the year. Couple of RBIs,

1483
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 7: and they're starting to play pretty good baseball, Kevan, no

1484
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 7: shot there. Yeah, they're going to be. They'll be coming

1485
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 7: for the cups right now.

1486
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 12: They'll be Melton down by September.

1487
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 7: Don't worry. That's not right. Saint Louis Cardinals won again

1488
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 7: two nice day for the Central They beat the Marlins

1489
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 7: by a score of seven to five. Were the Indians

1490
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 7: on the road in Syracuse. They beat the Mets by

1491
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 7: a score of sixty five.

1492
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 4: There.

1493
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 7: They will play again at six fifteen tonight in International

1494
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 7: League Play. Anything else, say either one of you want to.

1495
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 10: Throw in CJ. Carr in South Bend. That is the

1496
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 10: starting quarterback here for Marcus Freeman, four snaps in his

1497
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 10: collegiate career. This is the grandson of Lloyd Carr. Boy

1498
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 10: The Notre Dame quarterback battle from a news cycle standpoint, like,

1499
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 10: I think if you followed the Colts quarterback battle, I

1500
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 10: mean how I said it yesterday. I thought Shane would say,

1501
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 10: Daniel Jones, I don't think you were stunned by yesterday's news.

1502
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 10: The Notre Dame quarterback battle had some tipsy sir, what

1503
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 10: what is it? Tipsy tipsy turvy, tipsy turvy, Thank you,

1504
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 10: tipsy turvy. News throughout Kenny Minshi at one point CJ.

1505
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 10: Carr so to be CJ.

1506
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 7: Carr, I was all in the minche mania, but you were, Yeah,

1507
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 7: but take a car right.

1508
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 10: He's more of the runner, CJ. Carr, more of the thrower,

1509
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 10: if you want to look at it from a all.

1510
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 7: I know is every time I turn around, feels like

1511
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 7: Marcus Freeman is recruiting another incredible, incredible player.

1512
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 10: The son of a Hall of Famer usually is what

1513
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 10: it seems to a lot of former NFL talent. By

1514
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 10: the way, so we get Iowa State, Kansas State, and Dublin, YEP,

1515
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 10: is that right? I can't imagine Ames Iowa and Manhattan,

1516
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 10: Kansas drinking a whole lot of guinness.

1517
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 17: They'll drink whatever's in trumb I was gonna say that

1518
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 17: usual I go. You ever been to Manhattan, Kansas.

1519
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 7: They'll know what to do.

1520
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 10: Well, trust me, they drink. I'm just not saying they're

1521
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 10: drinking a lot of guinness there. This will this, I'm

1522
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 10: gonna guess is their first, you know, real confrontation with

1523
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 10: the old Guinness. It's a great game. These are two

1524
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 10: ranked teams.

1525
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 7: Look forward to it. I like football. I'm ready coming

1526
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 7: up in a moment, Kevin, we'll hear from some guys

1527
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 7: in the locker room. What did they have to say

1528
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 7: about the decision made by Shane Stike in yesterday as

1529
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 7: Daniel Jones as the starting quarterback heading into the twenty

1530
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 7: twenty five season for the Indianapolis get a lot of

1531
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 7: reaction today from the Indianapolis Colts decision to elevate Daniel

1532
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 7: Jones to the starting spot at quarterback for the Indianapolis

1533
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 7: Colts coming up this year. And I think the frustration

1534
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 7: that I had at the very beginning of the show,

1535
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 7: like I'm not anti Daniel Jones and I want the

1536
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 7: Colts to do well, it just feels like it's the

1537
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 7: same thing Groundhog Day, again and again and again. It

1538
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 7: just feels like this team never really gets out of

1539
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 7: its own way over the last decade since the Andrew

1540
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 7: Luck retirement. When they're talking about the quarterback position, they

1541
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 7: had some success with Philip Rivers, he decided not to

1542
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 7: come back for a second year, and they've never really

1543
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 7: been able to figure it out since Kevin, it doesn't

1544
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 7: feel like they're getting any closer. Now they're taking a

1545
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 7: chance on a guy that gives them a very stable

1546
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 7: high high floor. But you got to find out once

1547
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 7: and for all, and maybe this is the end, but

1548
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 7: don't you feel like you got to find out once

1549
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 7: and for all? If AAnthony Richardson really is your guy?

1550
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 10: Like to fight this human here in the YouTube chat?

1551
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 19: Wow?

1552
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 10: Whoa Marcus Freeman next Colts head coach?

1553
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 12: Okay, understandable, fight We stop that.

1554
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 10: Right now, Benjamin, you think carle Ars Gordon would be

1555
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 10: more impressed by a ten and seven season with Dan

1556
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 10: Jones or eight to nine and Anthony Richardson taking a

1557
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 10: step forward.

1558
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 12: Ten and seven make the playoffs?

1559
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,759
Speaker 10: You think she lives in that narrow of a short

1560
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 10: term mindset.

1561
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 12: To a degree, yes, because she says they want to win.

1562
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 10: So yeah, I feel like she is not gone with

1563
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,719
Speaker 10: the wins and losses thing, Like she did that again Saturday,

1564
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 10: asked about wins and losses. Every time wins and losses

1565
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 10: gets brought up, she then counters it with saying, like,

1566
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 10: it's about the pursuit to be the best.

1567
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 12: Well, yeah, and ten and seven is better, not best,

1568
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 12: but better than.

1569
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 10: Right, But if she's saying the pursuit to be the best,

1570
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 10: do you read into that? You've got to look more

1571
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 10: long term You've got to look more big picture. You

1572
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 10: can't just say, hey, life in this twenty twenty five bubbles.

1573
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 10: Daniel Jones at ten and seven, that's impressive to me.

1574
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 10: I'm bringing everybody back.

1575
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 12: Not really, I truly believe. And I don't want to

1576
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 12: speak for her. I can't speak for her. I don't

1577
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 12: have the money or the requisites to do that. Time

1578
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 12: was that sort of thing.

1579
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 14: But in my mind, if I'm in her shoes, I

1580
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 14: think that trying to be the best is trying to

1581
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 14: go out there and win as many games as you can,

1582
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 14: no matter who's the quarterback. And I say that because

1583
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 14: it's not like you've had success recently. You're four years

1584
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 14: out of the playoffs, looking at a five year drought.

1585
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 14: If you get into the playoffs and then you look

1586
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 14: at that as a positive step in the right direction

1587
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 14: and you just take it from there and figure out

1588
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 14: the rest.

1589
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 10: To ten and seven with Daniel Jones is bring everybody back.

1590
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 14: No, I'm not saying you go that far. I'm just

1591
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 14: saying that you roll with Daniel Jones and if you

1592
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 14: gets your ten wins and then you assess it from there.

1593
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 7: But then you're you're sitting there at ten let's say

1594
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 7: you go ten and seven and you make a wild

1595
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 7: card appearance. Here's a guy that made fourteen million dollars

1596
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 7: as a starting quarterback in the NFL this year. You're

1597
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 7: not coming back for fourteen million dollars, So what deal

1598
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 7: do you make? Because we saw what happened to the

1599
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 7: Giants when they had their twenty twenty two season. They

1600
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,759
Speaker 7: gave him a four year deal for like one hundred

1601
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 7: and sixty million dollars and it wrecked the franchise.

1602
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 10: Not a lot of things make you shiver in the

1603
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 10: current weather situation we have here in Indye, But that

1604
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 10: statement right there from Jeff Record will make you shiver.

1605
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 7: Kevin, you spoke a moment ago about guys in the

1606
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 7: locker room and some of the statements that they made,

1607
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 7: and you had made reference to both of you to

1608
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 7: a d. Mitchell talking about the quarterback change. Here's what

1609
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 7: he had to say in the locker room when asked

1610
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 7: about it.

1611
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 5: Smart football player, very demanding that quarterback. He'll kind of,

1612
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 5: you know, tell you what you know he wants you

1613
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 5: to do, and you know it's it's an open dialogue there.

1614
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 5: So his work ethic is phenomenal. So I'm just looking

1615
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 5: forward to carrying that through the season.

1616
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 7: So you were standing there, James, what'd you make of

1617
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 7: some of those comments?

1618
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 12: That's what you have to say when you're a second

1619
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 12: year receiver who hasn't done anything in the NFL.

1620
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 7: What was he saying nonverbally? Is my question? Or was

1621
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 7: he no?

1622
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 14: I mean, he just looked like he was trying to

1623
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 14: say the right things with a bunch of cameras in

1624
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:07,759
Speaker 14: his face on the eve or right after they announced

1625
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 14: a huge decision for the team. But I mean, what

1626
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 14: else is Ady Mitchell going to say?

1627
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 10: Hey, if Daniel Jones heard that, he rewarded him an

1628
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 10: hour later on the practice field exactly, big old deep ball.

1629
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 10: Daniel Jones threw right on the money to Ady Mitchell.

1630
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 10: Nothing like Adie Mitchell yesterday at practice. So for those

1631
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 10: unfamiliar as hilarious, we are allowed to watch all of

1632
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 10: practice for this week. Basically it's training camp without fans

1633
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,719
Speaker 10: and we're back at the team facility. So what, James,

1634
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 10: there's six of us out there something like that, And

1635
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 10: poor Casey Valier from the Colts Radio Network, he happened

1636
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 10: to be the one closest to Adie Mitchell in the end,

1637
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 10: zone when Ad makes the catch and eighty makes the catch,

1638
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 10: great catch, and he's looking for the camera. Yeah, and

1639
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 10: cameras are put down at this point. You're not allowed

1640
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 10: to film any of the eleven to eleven periods. And

1641
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 10: he just stares at Casey. I mean, I think he

1642
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 10: if Ies could kill Casey, value would be in six

1643
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 10: pieces here on this Wednesday morning.

1644
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 14: Macy Valie should have dapped him up. He was looking

1645
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 14: for something, some sort of energy, some sort of exclamation point.

1646
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 14: But honestly, part of me was like, maybe this is

1647
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 14: the problem here. Ady, just make the play and go

1648
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 14: back to the huddle.

1649
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 10: And then I think he looked over Nick Cross, who's

1650
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 10: watching practice, because I'm going to leave the ball here

1651
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 10: for you.

1652
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 14: It looks like wave them off. It was kind of

1653
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 14: like the most brotherly thing I've seen, where it's like

1654
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 14: this guy he can never just act normal. But it

1655
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 14: honestly was a nice play.

1656
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, a couple of practice notes from if anybody cares.

1657
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 10: I don't know how many passes you think Richardson threw six?

1658
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1659
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 10: Man, you know now, so that's life with him, that's

1660
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 10: development I was.

1661
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 14: Gonna say, and splits and me tracking every pass I'll

1662
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 14: be honest with you all. I did pay attention to

1663
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 14: practice yesterday, but I wasn't tracking every pass doesn't matter.

1664
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 10: Largely had a good day at one ball could have

1665
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 10: been picked, but largely had a good day Again that

1666
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 10: Tyler Warren's still caught. Yes, Yeah, that was impressive by

1667
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 10: Tyler Warren. That is because it just seems like whenever

1668
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 10: the ball is in his area, he makes a play.

1669
01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 10: Xavian Howard first team reps right away. So the thirty

1670
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 10: two year old corner who I think we'll hear from

1671
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 10: today Yesterday was obviously pretty quarterback centric. He's right into

1672
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 10: the fire as a starting corner for you again. I

1673
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 10: think Ash should Doulan, Samuel ol Mack. We mentioned that earlier.

1674
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 10: Both of them got banged up, but you did have

1675
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,719
Speaker 10: guys back to practice in the form of Kenny Moore,

1676
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 10: Alec Pierce, Bernard, Ryman James. I'd say the biggest injured

1677
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 10: name right now for me is Josh Downs. Where's Josh

1678
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 10: Downs at from that hamstring injury he suffered to the

1679
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 10: joint practice with Green Bay. We saw Josh Downs miss

1680
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 10: Week one and two last year. You lose both those

1681
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 10: games one possession games. How do things look right now

1682
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 10: with Josh Downs for week one? Because I think Downs,

1683
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 10: I think Warren. I think those guys benefit, you know,

1684
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 10: from Daniel Jones being the starter. There where's Josh Josh

1685
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 10: Downs at come September seventh.

1686
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 7: More on the decision to start Daniel Jones coming up

1687
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 7: in just a moment. Rick Carlisle has a new contract.

1688
01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,799
Speaker 7: We'll get into all of it and check the fantext

1689
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 7: line next. A ninety three five and seven five fan,

1690
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 7: one of my good buddies, uh leaves me a voicemail

1691
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 7: yesterday saying he's been a Colts fan since day one

1692
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 7: and a season ticket holder at times, and he's like,

1693
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,719
Speaker 7: I don't think that's really that big of a deal

1694
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 7: one way or the other. He said, I don't think

1695
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 7: Daniel Jones and he's he likes he likes to play

1696
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 7: on the on some of the apps. Mark he would

1697
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 7: put the over under on Daniel Jones starts at ten

1698
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 7: and a half. What do you think of that?

1699
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 17: I actually don't hate that line, but yeah, you know,

1700
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 17: if you can bet on it. But yeah, I mean

1701
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 17: that's interesting. I think I saw their win total did

1702
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 17: go up a game in the Daniel Jones decision. See,

1703
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 17: this is what Carlier Gordon was looking at, and I

1704
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 17: think it jumped to seven.

1705
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 7: And a half.

1706
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 10: So the over under and Daniel Jones starts, he said

1707
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 10: ten and a half. That means Anthony Richardson would get

1708
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 10: six starts at least.

1709
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 7: That's what it sounds like.

1710
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 10: Wow, well it's not a very long leash ike, So okay,

1711
01:18:58,840 --> 01:18:59,839
Speaker 10: I think it was more injury.

1712
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 14: Can we get into that a little bit. As far

1713
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,799
Speaker 14: as the lease goes, how long is the least realistically

1714
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 14: in your mind? Because again I cannot buy Shane Styken

1715
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 14: telling us it's for the whole season. He said that,

1716
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 14: you know, for Anthony last year. Then he went to

1717
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 14: Joe Flacco and he said it for Joe Flack and

1718
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 14: they went back to Anthony. So I just can't buy

1719
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 14: that anymore. But what's realistic? If they start off owing three,

1720
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 14: is he still going to be saying that he's the guy?

1721
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1722
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 10: When you said that out loud, I probably said a month.

1723
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 10: It's kind of my first thought. Honestly, the schedule sets up,

1724
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 10: I'd argue beautifully for Daniel Jones. Oh really, you get

1725
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 10: an extremely banged up secondary in Week one. Miami's had

1726
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 10: a sleutve injuries. Okay, your home home to start your

1727
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 10: first road game is against a rookie quarterback in the

1728
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 10: Tennessee Titans. And if I'm not mistaken, that schedule actually

1729
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 10: is right behind you, James, I don't have my glasses on.

1730
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 10: Is that the Raiders in Week five at home?

1731
01:19:58,640 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 12: That is the Raiders?

1732
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 10: So I mean think about that. I mean you're probably

1733
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 10: gonna be favorite. I mean you're probably favored three of

1734
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 10: those five or yeah. So yeah, I think it's very,

1735
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 10: very favorable. I actually think the schedule is a little

1736
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 10: bit more backloaded, Like you don't play Houston until twice

1737
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 10: late in the year. I think you got a trip

1738
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 10: to Seattle, if I'm not mistaken, late in.

1739
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 7: The year, late Francisco.

1740
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 14: Well, you're missing no Kansas City, Kevin, You're missing what

1741
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 14: usually happens around here.

1742
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 12: You're not gonna win week one because you never do.

1743
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 12: So let's start thing.

1744
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 10: I'm jadge if he wins week one, he'll be I mean,

1745
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 10: you'll have the most babies named Dan in the history

1746
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 10: of the state.

1747
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 14: But I do think it's to your point, all seriousness,

1748
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 14: I agree with the Dolphins assessin, but I still think

1749
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 14: it's just something about these Colts weird streaks that they

1750
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 14: have where they can't do certain things. They can't you know,

1751
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 14: win the division. They can't win this season over and

1752
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 14: they can't win in Jacksonville, So does that change? I

1753
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 14: think we two is a big game the Broncos. I

1754
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 14: think that Shane not Shane's second I'm sorry. Sean Payton

1755
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 14: has shown the ability throughout his career to make life

1756
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 14: hell for the opposed quarterback, and especially quarterbacks who are

1757
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 14: not good like that I think will be certainly a factor.

1758
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 12: And then you got the Rams coming. You know, you

1759
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 12: go into the Rams in week fours, right, which I.

1760
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 10: Mean, I think on paper that's a very hard game.

1761
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 10: Obviously Stafford's health will be a big one. Yeah.

1762
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 14: Honestly, though, as you've laid that out, I don't hate

1763
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 14: that schedule. And if you're Daniel Jones, you have to

1764
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 14: believe like you know what you are doing it the

1765
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,719
Speaker 14: first four weeks thinking we should be two and two.

1766
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 10: Mariinals at home the week after the Raiders. But me, yeah,

1767
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 10: so I think it benefits him greatly right out of

1768
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 10: the gate.

1769
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 7: After the bye, Kevin, it's at Kansas City home against

1770
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 7: the Texans at Jacksonville, at Seattle home against the Niners,

1771
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 7: home against Jaguars, and at Texans.

1772
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's a different schedule. They're late, so yeah, I

1773
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 10: think that's good for Daniel Jones getting off to a

1774
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 10: better start.

1775
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 7: I thought this one from Greg was interesting on the

1776
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 7: fan text line. Now of this is surprising to you.

1777
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 7: Take Shane's four pillars of success that he mentioned on

1778
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 7: Day one, which quarterback has the advantage to each one,

1779
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 7: stiching the pillars are characters, even preparation advantage Jones from reports,

1780
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 7: consistency advantage Jones, relentlessness advantage Jones, and he says the

1781
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 7: ar tap out will haunt him forever. I think from

1782
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 7: Shane stick Steichen's eyes, it's true. And again my frustration

1783
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 7: at the very beginning is I still think there's development

1784
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,560
Speaker 7: that only comes through playing. And I think we have

1785
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 7: seen flashes from Anthony rich It's not like he's been

1786
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,640
Speaker 7: a complete bust to the Man's eight and seven as

1787
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,640
Speaker 7: a starting quarterback. Does he have problems, yes, does he

1788
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 7: have issues, yes, we know that. I also talk about

1789
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 7: the fact that he's very young, and I think he's

1790
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 7: still got time to learn. But my fear, my biggest

1791
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 7: fear for the Colts is they end up right back

1792
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 7: where the Giants were in twenty twenty two, where you

1793
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 7: have a decent season, you make a playoffs, and then

1794
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 7: you reward the guy with a big contract because of

1795
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 7: all he's done in the future, and then you're right

1796
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 7: back to where you started again. That's my biggest fear

1797
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 7: long term.

1798
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 10: Very fair, very fair. You imagine going to Mars. Let's

1799
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 10: say you w into Mars in twenty fifteen and you

1800
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 10: just returned yesterday and someone comes.

1801
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 12: Up, would I be coming back?

1802
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 10: And someone comes out and goes James Boyd. The Indianapolis

1803
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 10: Colts are now the Cleveland Browns of quarterbacks, and the

1804
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,799
Speaker 10: college football world can't stop debating. I use non conference schedule.

1805
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 12: Who I feel like I'm in Alien Earth. I watched

1806
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 12: the first episode, but that's where.

1807
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 13: We're at, right.

1808
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 12: That's something to a wormhole in an alternate universe.

1809
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 10: So the sports world is being dominated by the Colts,

1810
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 10: carouselic quarterback and I use scheduling. Howard and kennessas state.

1811
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 14: I do think you make a good point though, when

1812
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 14: it comes to where this Colds franchise is versus where

1813
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 14: it was, because obviously, when I was growing up. He

1814
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 14: was Paid Manning ruining my childhood and the Super Bowl

1815
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 14: against the Bears, and Mark I still being him over that.

1816
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 14: I think I've ever see paid Manning. I'm gonna say,

1817
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 14: you just cook through another pick, you know, after that

1818
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 14: first one there early in the game, but now here

1819
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 14: nor there. On a more serious note, this is who

1820
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 14: the Colts have been out side of the paid Manning

1821
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 14: Andrew Luck Eras and I say Andrew luck was kind

1822
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 14: of an askaris because it was so short. But you know,

1823
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 14: talking to Mike Chapple, the dean who's been here for

1824
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 14: so long, they haven't had great quarterback play outside of

1825
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 14: those two guys since moving to Indianapolis, and so that's

1826
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 14: what you're kind of up against us, you're measured against

1827
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 14: if you're the quarterback who comes here. It's not necessarily

1828
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 14: can you just be okay, which is what they're trying

1829
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 14: to ask Daniel Jones to do. But the people around

1830
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 14: here are saying, no, we had guys, We had dudes,

1831
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 14: and that's what we miss. And it's getting further and

1832
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 14: further away because if you look at a I don't know,

1833
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:35,560
Speaker 14: if you look at a ten year old, when's the

1834
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 14: last time they've seen, like a really great quarterback play

1835
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 14: that will sustained. I'll get full of Rivers's flowers in

1836
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 14: twenty twenty. But it hasn't been good since Andrew Luck left.

1837
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 14: And I find it just so like serendipitous that, my guys,

1838
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 14: that Keifer drops the story on Andrew Luck. What's the

1839
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 14: latest on him? He's loving his life in Palo Alto.

1840
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 14: And then, by the way, he's only thirty five, still

1841
01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 14: thirty six. And then a couple days later here's Danie

1842
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,640
Speaker 14: Jones starting quarterback, who, by the way, we're hoping can

1843
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 14: stabilize us because we haven't fund an answer since the

1844
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 14: other guy left and went to Palo Alto.

1845
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:10,520
Speaker 12: Like that is fascinating stuff to me. What a conundrum.

1846
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 7: Jalen does not like the fact that I take shots

1847
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,600
Speaker 7: every once in a while Notre Dame, mostly just to

1848
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 7: have fun with you, but he says, need I remind Jeff,

1849
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 7: James and Mark that Notre Dame helps keep this state relevant,

1850
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 7: So y'all may want to consider talk about more instead

1851
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 7: of waiting until nine fifty three, Seth.

1852
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 10: I probably count myself a unhealthily large Notre Dame fan. Jalen,

1853
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 10: come on now, we don't need to be on that

1854
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 10: big of the high horse here.

1855
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,600
Speaker 7: And I have nothing. I have nothing but respect, and

1856
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 7: I think we give loader Marcus Freeman.

1857
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 10: The proper attention that they deserve.

1858
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 7: That was resounding right now.

1859
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 10: Well, I mean, like, do we really need to talking

1860
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 10: about Notre Dame football for three hours? South Bend is

1861
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 10: in Indiana.

1862
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 7: We'll get the national perspective from Tom Pellis Sarah coming

1863
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 7: up at a moment as we continue on ninety three five, they.

1864
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 1: See sed a fan morning show with KB KAB and

1865
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 1: Jeff Daniel.

1866
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 2: Jones would be our starting quarterback this season.

1867
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 3: I understand this league and how it works, and you've

1868
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 3: got to perform at a high level weekend a week out.

1869
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, we all knew somebody

1870
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 4: was gonna have to be on this end of the stick,

1871
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 4: and it was me.

1872
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 2: Big part of it is, you know, he's been injured,

1873
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 2: you know, And I think that's part of it. And

1874
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 2: we're got recent and playing. It's hard to, you know,

1875
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 2: go out there and do the things you want to do.

1876
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 4: I feel like I did a decent job improving, but

1877
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 4: there's a lot more I.

1878
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 2: Can do, guys, heart me talk about the consistency, and

1879
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 2: that's really what I was looking for.

1880
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 5: His work ethic is phenomenal. Just looking forward to carry

1881
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 5: and that through the season.

1882
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 6: He went around the league and see if just like

1883
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 6: the consistency of having quarterback behind you, that's like been

1884
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:54,680
Speaker 6: the franchise player for years and years and years and

1885
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 6: getting to build.

1886
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 11: That chemistry with that quarterback year after year.

1887
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 7: There is an advantage.

1888
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 4: I've got to trust the Lord and I got to

1889
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 4: be where I am right now, and right now I'm good.

1890
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 8: If Daniel Jones is the Week one starter, it's not

1891
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 8: going to be because he won the job. It's going

1892
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 8: to be because Anthony Richardson did not hold on to it.

1893
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:15,480
Speaker 8: I have no confidence in Richardson. I have no confidence

1894
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 8: in Until I see anything of consistency, I don't have

1895
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:20,639
Speaker 8: confidence in anybody.

1896
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:22,560
Speaker 2: This league is a year to year league, and what

1897
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 2: do I feel as best for the Indianapolis Colts in

1898
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five And I got to make these decisions.

1899
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 11: That's what I get paid to do, and I got

1900
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 11: to go with what I feels.

1901
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 18: Right and on we go.

1902
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 7: The next chapter starts now for the Indianapolis Colts as

1903
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 7: they go into twenty twenty five with Daniel Jones as

1904
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 7: they're starting quarterback. And we've been yapping about this all

1905
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,560
Speaker 7: day long and listening to the text line and some

1906
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 7: phone callers, and we'll get some national perspective now as

1907
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 7: we turn to the Payless Liquors hotline and from NFL Network,

1908
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 7: Tom Pella, Sero terrific reporter there, joins us now on

1909
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,679
Speaker 7: the Fan Morning Show. Good morning, Tom. It's never going

1910
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 7: for you. There's always somebody in a quarterback controversy somewhere

1911
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 7: in America for you.

1912
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 18: Right, Well, we're on the pretty short list at this

1913
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 18: point of the competitions in camp, but you're right, we'll

1914
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 18: be a week or two in the season and people

1915
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,640
Speaker 18: will be calling for somebody to get benched somewhere. You know,

1916
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 18: this one was really going all the way back to

1917
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 18: the combine. When Chris Ballard said it's going to be

1918
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 18: an open competition, you knew that they were going to

1919
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 18: try to bring in somebody to really and truly push

1920
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 18: Anthony Richardson. You know, the unfortunate part in all this is,

1921
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 18: I don't know that you ever really got the type

1922
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 18: of competition that you would have wanted. We all know

1923
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 18: Anthony Richardson what he needs above all else his reps.

1924
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 18: He needs time on task. And for a guy who

1925
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 18: had bowled injuries his first two years to come in

1926
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 18: and have the shoulder issue in the spring and then

1927
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 18: kept the start in the first preseason game and dislocate

1928
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 18: his pinky right out of the gate, it just it

1929
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,759
Speaker 18: felt like a continuation. I don't think that by any stretch,

1930
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 18: this is the end of Anthony Richardson. You know, there's

1931
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 18: plenty of other quarterbacks who you know, have not been

1932
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 18: able to put it all together in the first couple

1933
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 18: of years. And they get trader, do they get cut

1934
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 18: and they go someplace else? And I mean, shoot, we're

1935
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 18: still talking about Trey Lance. You know, oh, you know,

1936
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 18: great preseason that he had with the Chargers. It's like,

1937
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 18: you know, year five or six or whatever it is

1938
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 18: for Trey Lance. At this point, there's no reason that

1939
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 18: we can't you be talking about Anthony Richardson somewhere down

1940
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 18: the line. But you know, the guy needs to play,

1941
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 18: he needs to practice. He didn't get the opportunity to

1942
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 18: do that, and the Colts just stren't in a position

1943
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 18: where they can allow him to get that time on

1944
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 18: task in regular season games where you know wins and

1945
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 18: jobs are at stake.

1946
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 14: Tom James Woyd here from the Athletic, and I enjoy

1947
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 14: your work as well. You certainly keep me busy like

1948
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:46,600
Speaker 14: the rest of us in this reporting world, and I

1949
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:48,559
Speaker 14: do want to pivot a bit back to what you've

1950
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 14: just said with Anthony. There is hope that he can

1951
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 14: still become something. But the narrative that the cults are

1952
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 14: trying to push right now is that they haven't given

1953
01:29:58,160 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 14: up on him. They're the future for him in any

1954
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 14: But how realist do you think that is? Considering that

1955
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 14: he's a now former top five pick that's been bench

1956
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 14: twice in nine months. Those players usually don't work out

1957
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 14: with the same franchise, So how realistic is it for

1958
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 14: him to work out Indianapolis?

1959
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 18: Still, Well, let's start with the reality James, that you know,

1960
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:21,560
Speaker 18: quarterbacks get hurt, and certainly I don't wish that on

1961
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 18: Daniel Jones at all, But the odds are over half

1962
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:27,679
Speaker 18: the teams in the league us multiple quarterbacks in the season.

1963
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 18: We may see Anthony Richardson playing for the Colts this year,

1964
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 18: and quite frankly, given where he's at in his career,

1965
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 18: the best opportunity for him to show something in twenty

1966
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 18: twenty five, it's going to be with the Colts not

1967
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 18: getting traded next week and going to a team and

1968
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 18: a coach and a scheme that he's not familiar with.

1969
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 18: And so, you know, big picture, what does this mean

1970
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 18: for Anthony Richardson. I would go back to this. You

1971
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 18: remember how this all unfolded back in twenty twenty three

1972
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 18: when they had a couple of quarterbacks on the roster,

1973
01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 18: and again it was a real competition. Late Jim Mersey,

1974
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 18: you know, came out and said, hey, Anthony's going to

1975
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 18: be you know, we look forward to Anthony rich and

1976
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 18: handed off to Jonathan Taylor. That was kind of the

1977
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:11,560
Speaker 18: first time that anybody was like, oh, Richardson's going to

1978
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 18: play now. That wasn't really you know, the the I

1979
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 18: don't want to say the plan, but it wasn't really

1980
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 18: the thought process. It was, hey, you're gonna get this

1981
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,679
Speaker 18: guy on the field. Maybe he's playing goal line, short

1982
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 18: yardage packages, but not to be an every game starter.

1983
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 18: And obviously, you know, he played I believe four games

1984
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 18: that year and he got hurt in three of them,

1985
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 18: and so you know, ultimately we didn't see a ton

1986
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 18: of him on the field. But what is happening right

1987
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 18: now with Anthony Richardson at age twenty four, younger than

1988
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 18: Tyler Shuck, younger than some of the other rookies we're

1989
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 18: in the league right now. This is probably what should

1990
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 18: happened for him in twenty twenty three, which is getting

1991
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 18: the opportunity to be behind a veteran who you know,

1992
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 18: say what you will about Daniel Jones, like, he's won

1993
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 18: games in the league, He's won a playoff game in

1994
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,600
Speaker 18: the league, he started a whole bunch. You know, be

1995
01:31:57,760 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 18: behind somebody who's going to be a good guy in

1996
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 18: the room and you can you can watch and learn

1997
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 18: a little bit. Here, Anthony Richardson got put in a

1998
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 18: really tough spot. I don't think it's unfair, because there

1999
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:10,720
Speaker 18: is no fair in the NFL, but it was a

2000
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 18: really difficult spot of hey, and I get you know

2001
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 18: why you got there, which was this guy needs to play,

2002
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 18: so let's put him out there. But you know, in

2003
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 18: hindsight and even in foresight, what should have been the

2004
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 18: plan initially here and so the best thing for Anthony Richardson,

2005
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 18: of course now is that he truly can sit back

2006
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 18: for a while and watch and learn and get better

2007
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 18: in practice and run the scout team and who knows,

2008
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 18: maybe making all those scout teams reps in a few

2009
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 18: months here. You know, by staying healthy with this point

2010
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 18: in his NFL career, maybe that puts him in a

2011
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 18: better position than what his next opportunity comes. You know,

2012
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 18: he's better for it. And much like Bryce Young last

2013
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 18: year with the Panthers, he got benched after the second game.

2014
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 18: I mean, that was the number one pick in the

2015
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 18: draft in that same year, you know, and then once

2016
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 18: Bryce Young got another opportunity because Andy Dalton was in

2017
01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:00,759
Speaker 18: a car accident of all things, he was more ready.

2018
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 18: But a big part of that was Bryce Young leading through,

2019
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 18: continuing to be that guy, you know, working behind the

2020
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 18: scenes and being ready, not knowing what his opportunity was getting.

2021
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 10: Definitely echo what James said. Tom Pelsera is great work

2022
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:16,640
Speaker 10: NFL Network where you can find him insider there. You

2023
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 10: can see him on The Insiders that's weeknights, seven pm

2024
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:25,959
Speaker 10: Eastern on NFL Network. Tom we saw Derek Jackson, Anthony's

2025
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 10: agent reach out to Stephen Holder covers could t ESPN

2026
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 10: and mentioned, yeah, they are unhappy about this situation, not

2027
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:35,640
Speaker 10: going all the way to the trade request. We had

2028
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 10: Stephen on earlier and he mentioned he didn't feel like

2029
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:40,600
Speaker 10: maybe that was the most far fetched thing that that

2030
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 10: could come down the road from the Richardson camp. What

2031
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:45,560
Speaker 10: do you think the market would look like? Do you

2032
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 10: compare it all to Trey Lance's market a few years ago?

2033
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,799
Speaker 10: What do you think potential compensation could be for Anthony Richardson.

2034
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 18: I believe Trey Lance went for a fourth round pick

2035
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 18: and it was right around this same time when the

2036
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 18: Cowboys traded for him. I think it would probably be

2037
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,560
Speaker 18: a similar type of a thing Trey Lance, who was

2038
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 18: It was the same deal, which was he hadn't played

2039
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:08,679
Speaker 18: kind of football. He'd played more, he'd started more games

2040
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 18: in North Dakota State, but just hadn't played a whole lot.

2041
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:14,720
Speaker 18: He had accuracy issues, like Anthony Richardson has not been

2042
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 18: the most accurate quarterback so far in his career, and

2043
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,600
Speaker 18: he've been hurt a lot. So it's probably in a

2044
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,639
Speaker 18: similar type of a vein. It's probably a mid round

2045
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:24,680
Speaker 18: type of a pick. And the question that you have

2046
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 18: to ask yourself if you are you know Chris Ballad

2047
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 18: or Shane Steichen or Carlie Ersay, is is that worth it,

2048
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 18: you know, Trey Lance. The other piece of this was

2049
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 18: when the forty nine ers traded Trey Lance, they had

2050
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 18: Brock Party and rock Perty was going to be the

2051
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 18: guy that was Kyle's guy that you know, it was

2052
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 18: very apparent he was going to be the starter. When

2053
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,559
Speaker 18: you have, you know, another guy who's a former high

2054
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 18: drafthics sitting behind, that puts more pressure on the guy

2055
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,560
Speaker 18: who's starting. It can create a lot of questions. I

2056
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:56,839
Speaker 18: don't know that you have those same types of questions

2057
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 18: with Daniel Jones, who by the way, is only twenty

2058
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 18: eight himself. But it's not like, you know, Daniel Jones

2059
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 18: is one hundred percent the answer you know for the

2060
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 18: next ten years, like the forty nine ers felt about Party.

2061
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 18: You know, you hope that he is. You hope that

2062
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 18: maybe you fell into something on a one year, fourteen

2063
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 18: million dollar contract and you get your guy and it

2064
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:17,600
Speaker 18: settles all these questions. But I don't think that the

2065
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 18: same dynamic exists here in terms of the pressure on

2066
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:24,600
Speaker 18: the pressure on the Colts to do something and to

2067
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 18: move on from the player. I just don't think that

2068
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:29,760
Speaker 18: that exists. So you know, we'll see my understanding from

2069
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 18: talking to people yesterday is that's not the thought process

2070
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 18: for the team. I understand, you know, I've known Derek

2071
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 18: a long time. I understand, you know, the frustration for him,

2072
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:41,879
Speaker 18: the frustration for Anthony Richardson.

2073
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 11: But I just go back to this.

2074
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 18: You know, as much as you might be mad about

2075
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 18: it and you might think, you know this isn't you know,

2076
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:50,840
Speaker 18: the trust has been fractured or whatever that quote was

2077
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 18: that he gave the holder. But at the same time, realistically,

2078
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 18: if Anthony Richardson sees the field in twenty twenty five,

2079
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:00,759
Speaker 18: he's better off seeing the field than Indy end because

2080
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,599
Speaker 18: going someplace new Man, being a quarterback, there's some positions

2081
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:06,759
Speaker 18: you can get traded, you know, even in the season,

2082
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:08,919
Speaker 18: and you can go out and play that week. Quarterback

2083
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 18: is not the spot you want to be doing that.

2084
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 18: The Baker Mayfield going to the Rams and starting three

2085
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 18: days later and rebooting his career, those situations are are

2086
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 18: few and far between. For Richardson, just continuing to you know,

2087
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,560
Speaker 18: be on top of this thing, knowing that it was

2088
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:26,600
Speaker 18: a close competition with Daniel Jones and being able just

2089
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:29,640
Speaker 18: to kind of push forward within that context, that to

2090
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:33,040
Speaker 18: me seems like the better outcome here. We'll see what levers,

2091
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 18: if any, he and his agents decided to pull here.

2092
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 14: Tom, just Tom just ruined in my childhood dreams there

2093
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 14: with you know, the Madden You know, I'm thinking I'm

2094
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 14: mad and I just drop players in and have my franchise.

2095
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 12: It worked back then, Tom.

2096
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 18: But it works for Bakers. Baker's now a Pro Bowl quarterback.

2097
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:52,759
Speaker 18: Like it's the wildest story ever. I think they claimed

2098
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:54,879
Speaker 18: him on a Monday and he started on a Thursday.

2099
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 10: That one I'll never Yeah, I'll never get over.

2100
01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:00,400
Speaker 14: My dad's of those no along those lines. My dad's

2101
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 14: a Diehart Raiders fan. I never let him forget that game.

2102
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 14: I'm like, you let a guy come into your house

2103
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 14: and beat you on like a couple of days rest

2104
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 14: and literally like you know, a couple of backyard plays.

2105
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 14: But going back to the Colts for a second, and

2106
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:15,680
Speaker 14: I really would appreciate your respective on this. So the

2107
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 14: decision is Daniel Jones, and obviously they have to feel

2108
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,479
Speaker 14: confident enough to make that decision to make him QB one.

2109
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 14: But within that, Tom, how much pressure do you think

2110
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 14: this regime just put on itself to basically bet on

2111
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,559
Speaker 14: Daniel Jones? Like you know how much leash do they

2112
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 14: have left? Or you know, goodwill or grace should they

2113
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 14: get if this doesn't work out. You know, when it

2114
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:40,599
Speaker 14: comes to Chris Ballard and Shane Styching, well, I think

2115
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 14: that part of.

2116
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 18: The reason, and I know that Shane talked about this

2117
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 18: is a decision made for twenty twenty five. It's not

2118
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 18: about the future. But you heard the words from Shane.

2119
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:52,400
Speaker 18: It's about consistency, it's about communication, It's about getting in

2120
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 18: the right play and making the right checks. You know,

2121
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 18: that's all the way of saying, you know, they know

2122
01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 18: what they're getting in Daniel Jones, they know, you know.

2123
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:03,599
Speaker 18: The best way to put it might be this, does

2124
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 18: Daniel Jones scare you if you're a defense Maybe not,

2125
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 18: But he doesn't scare you as his own coaches either.

2126
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 18: Anthony Richardson scares the opposing defense, but he also might

2127
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 18: scare his own coaches. So do you want the known

2128
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:21,599
Speaker 18: commodity do you want the guy confident? You know, Hey,

2129
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 18: here's what Daniel's limitations are. Here's the things he does well.

2130
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:27,679
Speaker 18: We're going to build around those things he does well.

2131
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 18: Or do you have Anthony Richardson who's going to make

2132
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 18: the splash plays, but you just don't know, you know,

2133
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 18: from playing and play out, is he also going to

2134
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:38,760
Speaker 18: make the big mistake? You know, if you're you know,

2135
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 18: if you feel like your job is on the line.

2136
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 18: And I think that it's fair to say any coach

2137
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 18: who's entering year three and has not yet made the playoffs,

2138
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 18: any GM frankly that's been in the job as long

2139
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 18: as Chris has, you know, Yeah, there's a level of pressure,

2140
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 18: There's no doubt about it. And then you you you know,

2141
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 18: add into the context, do you have a new controlling

2142
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 18: owner in the situation too. There's a lot of different

2143
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 18: dynamics here where certainly you have to be taking those

2144
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 18: things into consideration. But to me, you know what you

2145
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:08,160
Speaker 18: need to prove right now if you're you know, if

2146
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:10,640
Speaker 18: you're Chris and Shane is just Hey, the rest of

2147
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 18: his roster is pretty good. And whether Anthony Richardson noltimately

2148
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:16,400
Speaker 18: works out or he doesn't, we built a pretty strong team.

2149
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 18: The only way that you find that and show that

2150
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 18: is that you get somebody in that you trust to

2151
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 18: run your operation and get the ball in the hands

2152
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 18: of your playmakers. You know, Anthony Richardson still might get there.

2153
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 18: Someday again. He's younger than some of the guys who

2154
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Speaker 18: got drafted this year, but he's not there yet. I

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Speaker 18: don't think that that's a secret. He's just not there yet.

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Speaker 18: And you know, so you put in the guy who

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Speaker 18: you you trust. Hey, we at least know what we're

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Speaker 18: getting with this player. Let's build around his strengths. He's

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Speaker 18: going to process, he's going to get us into the

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Speaker 18: right play, and you roll from there. You know, time

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Speaker 18: will tell if this ends up being the right bet.

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Speaker 18: But to me, you know the other part of this too.

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Speaker 18: And I had people within the league say this to

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Speaker 18: me when they were talking about that quarterback competition, along

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Speaker 18: the lines of, well, you just you got to roll

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Speaker 18: with Richardson first, and then if he fails, you go

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Speaker 18: to Daniel Jones. I actually thought the opposite, and going

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Speaker 18: back to the spring, everything I heard was it was

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Speaker 18: probably going to be Daniel Jones. And the thinking is

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Speaker 18: you're not going to get a spark from Daniel Jones.

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01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:15,720
Speaker 18: Daniel Jones is the steady guy. The spark comes if, hey,

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Speaker 18: if this thing isn't looking good enough, and then you

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Speaker 18: put in this six foot five, two hundred and forty

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Speaker 18: pound cannon armed dude. That's where the spark comes from.

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Speaker 18: And again I would just go back to Anthony richardson

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Speaker 18: what he's got to do from this point forward is

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Speaker 18: pour everything into being ready for that moment, because you

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Speaker 18: don't know if that's coming in the first half a

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Speaker 18: week one or it's not coming till December, but it's coming.

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Speaker 18: And if you are able to show some of those flashes,

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Speaker 18: whether your futures in Indianapolis or somewhere else, that's what's

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Speaker 18: going to drive you to get your next opportunity in

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Speaker 18: the NFL.

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Speaker 7: Tom, thanks for your time this morning. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: I know you're back out to some other camps, but

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Speaker 7: we'll look for you on NFL Network and see you

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Speaker 7: down the road.

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Speaker 18: You got it, guess.

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Speaker 7: Thanks Tom Pelasorrow, NFL Network. On the Payless Liquors hot Line,

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Speaker 7: this is I've been looking at some of the texts

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Speaker 7: coming in while we were listening to Tom, and this

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Speaker 7: one's interesting. Anonymous says, it's just ironic that Ballard drafted

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Speaker 7: AR to save his own job and then gave us

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Speaker 7: endless lip service about we need to be patient, and

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Speaker 7: now Steichen has failed to even fix his cadence and

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Speaker 7: is throwing ar under the bus to now save his

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Speaker 7: own job. This front office doesn't care what happens as

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Speaker 7: long as they keep getting checks.

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Speaker 10: You know what, I was thinking about something along those

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Speaker 10: lines yesterday driving home from the complex, and I thought

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Speaker 10: back to James, I think it was your first show

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Speaker 10: or one of your first couple at the combine when

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Speaker 10: we had Chris Ballard on the show.

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Speaker 12: What a chaotic time, but yes, and.

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Speaker 10: Asked Ballard something to the effect of, you know, why

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Speaker 10: do you feel like you're getting a ninth year? And

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Speaker 10: he referenced the conversation organizationally they had with Jim Mersey,

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Speaker 10: the hiring of Shane Steiken, the drafting of Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 10: and the thought was, we're going to truly reset this thing.

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Speaker 10: We're going to create a new window where we have

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Speaker 10: got to be patient. We're going to try something here

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Speaker 10: and we have got to be patient with this. And

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Speaker 10: basically the thought there was this is now going to

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Speaker 10: be I don't know, a three year period of evaluating

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Speaker 10: a first time head coach and Shane Seigin one of

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Speaker 10: the raws quarterbacks we've ever seen taken in Round one

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Speaker 10: of any NFL draft and Anthony Richardson, and that's going

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01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 10: to allow the leash to be longer. I mean, that's

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Speaker 10: pretty much a ballad said, and now here we are,

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Speaker 10: and I saw Paul pointed out on the text line

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Speaker 10: the Colts asked all of us to be patient and

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Speaker 10: didn't practice the patients they asked for, which I think

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Speaker 10: is an interesting point. I don't know if I'm it

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01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:50,720
Speaker 10: is interesting all the way there with Paul, I think

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Speaker 10: you're you're maybe letting Anthony Richardson off the hook a

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01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 10: little bit too much with that, But it gets back

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Speaker 10: to my general premise of the day, and it's inn

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Speaker 10: orderizational failure from top down in drafting, believing in him

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Speaker 10: on and off the field, et cetera, et cetera. And

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Speaker 10: then obviously the quarterback himself hasn't done himself any favors

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Speaker 10: at all.

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Speaker 14: So then I do want to look at this too.

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Speaker 14: And this is the part where now that you've made

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Speaker 14: that point about Richardson, they made their point to turn

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Speaker 14: to Daniel Jones and what I'll push back on. And

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Speaker 14: obviously I could talk to Tom Forever honesty as much

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Speaker 14: AS's good dude on his Twitter page and things like that,

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Speaker 14: but The thing that bothers me about the Daniel Jones

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Speaker 14: steadiness and consistency narrative is that that has not been

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Speaker 14: his career correct. I think people look at completion percentage

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Speaker 14: of like, oh, he's just steady, he's consistent. He's played

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Speaker 14: seventy games in the NFL. He's had seventy three turnovers

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Speaker 14: in those seventy games. So why do I think that

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Speaker 14: he's this consistent quarterback. He's had one consistent year in

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Speaker 14: his career, and that, to me, is part of why

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Speaker 14: I push back so hard against it. I'm not saying

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Speaker 14: that Anthony should just be the QB one and you

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Speaker 14: roll with it. If you change positions, that's totally fine.

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Speaker 14: But when I ask Shane Styching straight up, what can

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Speaker 14: you turn to to make you believe you can win

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Speaker 14: with this guy? And you have to bring up a

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01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:21,559
Speaker 14: season from three years ago that does not invoke much

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Speaker 14: confidence in me or the fan base. I would imagine,

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Speaker 14: like that's my only thing, Like what are we doing

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Speaker 14: with this Daniel Jones narrative? People are sitting up here saying, like,

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Speaker 14: this guy is the most steady guy ever.

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Speaker 19: Know he is not?

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01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, It's like he is not? Yes, Sorr I try

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01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:38,760
Speaker 10: to make the analogy of whoever you choose in this

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Speaker 10: quarterback decision. It's two sixteen year olds that you're allowing

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Speaker 10: to drive your car. Daniel Jones maybe has only been

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Speaker 10: in three recks, but Anthony Rivergrison has been in four.

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Speaker 10: I choose that's what you're doing with this Branton record.

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Speaker 7: He's getting he's getting good.

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Speaker 12: I know what you're saying.

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Speaker 10: Without the break too, you don't have the you don't

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Speaker 10: have the teacher break on the right right right, I

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Speaker 10: mean literally, I mean again, both of them have sketchy passed.

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Speaker 10: To go with James's point, and it's funny. I went

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Speaker 10: on Serious XM yesterday evening, and I feel like James,

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Speaker 10: when the national audience speaks to you on this subject,

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Speaker 10: you hear more of that right there about the Daniel

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Speaker 10: Jones New York career. Like basically the question was to me, Hey,

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01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 10: why did Shane Styken make this move? And I said,

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Speaker 10: you know, line of scrimmage operationally feels like Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 10: He can trust more. There's a consistency factor to Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 10: And I was met with was the New York Giants

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Speaker 10: career truly watched and That's where I think Shane lives

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Speaker 10: in the twenty twenty two bubble. This goes back to

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Speaker 10: a conversation we had earlier today. Shane Stikeen was in

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Speaker 10: Philly in twenty twenty two, so that means he saw

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01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 10: the Giants first hand for two games obviously, but saw

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Speaker 10: them a lot in film breakdowns and things like that.

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Speaker 10: That was when Daniel Jones was at his best. Well

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Speaker 10: in twenty twenty three, where was Shane stiken here? Twenty

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01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 10: twenty four, where was Shane's here? What was Daniel Jones doing?

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Speaker 10: Going three and thirteen as a quarterback and getting benched

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Speaker 10: by the New York Giants and being run out of town?

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Speaker 10: So that does give me a little nervousness of man,

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Speaker 10: Shane's pulling out, you know, franchise record and completion percentage

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Speaker 10: for the New York Giants, and I'm like, dude, in

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01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 10: the NFL years, that's a long long time ago, so

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Speaker 10: resurrecting that, I don't know if that's a given.

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Speaker 7: In those games against Philadelphia. By the way, he was

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01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 7: not to look this up now they got off. What

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Speaker 7: they're giving me is not what I want to see

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Speaker 7: right now, But I'll look up to the other side. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I'll save it for the other side. In the meantime,

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Speaker 7: let's get to a checkdown, the.

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Speaker 1: Morning checkdown on ninety sweet five and one oh seven

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Speaker 1: five the fan.

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Speaker 7: Well, Daniel Jones is the starting quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 7: That was the proclamation of Shane steich In yesterday. He

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Speaker 7: told each and every one of us why he had

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Speaker 7: made that decision.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'll start off by opening letting everyone know

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Speaker 2: that Daniel Jones would be our starting quarterback this season.

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01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 2: I thought the competition in training camp was great by

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Speaker 2: both of those guys.

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Speaker 11: I thought they both competed.

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01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:18,200
Speaker 2: Really hard and it was good to see them cheering

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01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 2: for each other and battling the way they did. And

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Speaker 2: you guys heard me talk about the consistency, and that's

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Speaker 2: really what I was looking for. And really the operation

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01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 2: at the line of scrimmage, the checks uh, the protection,

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01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,440
Speaker 2: the ball placement, the completion percentage.

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Speaker 11: I think all that played a factor in it.

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Speaker 2: I think Daniel Daniel did a great job doing that,

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Speaker 2: and I think ar has made strides in that area,

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Speaker 2: but I do feel that, you know, he still needs

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Speaker 2: to continue to develop in those areas and had a

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Speaker 2: chance to talk to both of them this morning. They're

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Speaker 2: both great.

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Speaker 7: Ar was great.

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Speaker 2: He knows that he still needs to develop and learn

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Speaker 2: in those areas, and he knows that he's one play away.

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Speaker 2: Let those guys know, let the team know this morning.

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Speaker 2: Team's very supportive of Daniel, but also supportive of Ar

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01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 2: in his new role, and he's got to attack it

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Speaker 2: the right way and then we'll go from there.

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Speaker 7: All right, So it's on to Daniel Jones. Some good

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01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:16,680
Speaker 7: news though, yesterday Kevin Bowen for the Colts. They got

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Speaker 7: three starters back off of injury.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, very important guys. Alec Pierce, Kenny Moore, Bernard Ryman

2335
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 10: all back to practice. I still think the injury questions

2336
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:28,240
Speaker 10: are there for roster cuts coming in six days. We

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01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:31,840
Speaker 10: should note Saturday's preseason game. Do not expect anyone of

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01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 10: note to play in that game. I'm a little, actually,

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01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 10: I'm a lot confused why Anthony Richardson wouldn't play in

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01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 10: that preseason game. But nonetheless, it's gonna be Riley Leonard

2341
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:44,720
Speaker 10: and Jason Bean Saturday down there in Cincinnati, and it

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01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:48,439
Speaker 10: sounds like a whole lot of threes action there for

2343
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:50,520
Speaker 10: the preseason finale for the Colts.

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Speaker 7: And Daniel Jones did have one big splash play yesterday

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01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 7: with everybody's favorite to Adie Mitchell.

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Speaker 14: Right, Yeah, I would say your favorite Adie Mitchell. Yeah,

2347
01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:01,720
Speaker 14: really a lot came from your predictions on him are

2348
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 14: going to come true. But no, in all seriousness, it

2349
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:05,920
Speaker 14: was a nice time about Adie Mitchell. But as everyone

2350
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 14: always reminds when I tweet those things, out do it

2351
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 14: on game days.

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01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:12,320
Speaker 7: All right, So let's check out the Indiana Pacers. I

2353
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:14,760
Speaker 7: had some positive news yesterday that we're all happy with.

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01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 7: Rick Carlisle gets an extension after leading the team to

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01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 7: within one game of an NBA Championship player development you

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01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 7: talked about earlier, Kevin everything else. No details with the contract,

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01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:27,720
Speaker 7: but it's good to know that he's going to be

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01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:28,479
Speaker 7: around for a while.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I'll call him Rick Rax because he got them racks.

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Speaker 19: Baby.

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01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:33,759
Speaker 14: He got that money and he deserves it after helping

2363
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:37,400
Speaker 14: that team reach its first finals appearance in twenty five years.

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01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 12: So heads off to Rick Carlile.

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01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:41,280
Speaker 14: He'd be sticking around, And honestly, it is remarkable the

2366
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:44,759
Speaker 14: way he's adapted his coaching style and evolved through the years.

2367
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:46,280
Speaker 14: And I don't think a lot of coaches have been

2368
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 14: able to do that, which is why he likely is

2369
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 14: going to be in the Hall of Fame some day.

2370
01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 10: Racks, but no disrespect to rats. Correct exactly what I

2371
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 10: like that, Kevin with a couple of bars. Okay, brother, Yeah,

2372
01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:58,840
Speaker 10: Rick Carlisle set that one up for me there. I

2373
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 10: just simply hit it out of the park. You know,

2374
01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:03,559
Speaker 10: I said this in the opening hour. What Rick Carlisle

2375
01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 10: has meant to the Pacers, what Matt Painter has meant

2376
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 10: to Purdue, they deserve the cherry on top of the title.

2377
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:13,880
Speaker 10: I just think it's those two individuals have given the

2378
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 10: program in Weslafayette, the franchise here in Indy so much

2379
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:20,679
Speaker 10: joy with their fan bases and have had to overcome

2380
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:24,759
Speaker 10: a lot, mainly injuries obviously in Rick's case the first iteration,

2381
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:28,560
Speaker 10: but brawl. You know, they've taken again the franchise of

2382
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 10: the Pacers, the program with perdue to heights that you know,

2383
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:34,519
Speaker 10: those fan bases maybe thought they would never see or

2384
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:37,000
Speaker 10: never see again. And I think it'd be pretty cool

2385
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 10: for both of them here. As you know, I'm not

2386
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 10: going to act like they're both you know, walking up

2387
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:43,800
Speaker 10: the eighteenth hole, but as they kind of reached latter

2388
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 10: stages of their careers that they do find that that

2389
01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:49,760
Speaker 10: elusive championship for both of them.

2390
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 7: All right, let's check out the other side of the

2391
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 7: facility over there, the Indiana Fever with some news not

2392
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 7: the greatest. Sophie Cunningham is out for the rest of

2393
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:02,559
Speaker 7: the year with an MCL problem and that injured knee

2394
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:05,640
Speaker 7: that she has suffered this past weekend. She will not

2395
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 7: be back this year. That she is just an energy plug,

2396
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:12,560
Speaker 7: just an energy spark plug for that team and was

2397
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:14,400
Speaker 7: always providing something positive.

2398
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 12: So it's just.

2399
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:18,880
Speaker 7: Another knock in what has been injury after injury after injury.

2400
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:19,240
Speaker 19: JB.

2401
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's a literally a really tough stretch for the Fever.

2402
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:27,400
Speaker 14: That is their third season ending injury this month. She

2403
01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:32,880
Speaker 14: Sophie Cunningham joins Aery McDonald and Sidney Colson as two

2404
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:34,719
Speaker 14: other guards that are now lost for the season.

2405
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:36,800
Speaker 12: So it is tough for them.

2406
01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:38,639
Speaker 14: They're just trying to tread water to get to the playoffs,

2407
01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 14: and obviously everyone's just kind of waiting and seeing if

2408
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:43,639
Speaker 14: and when Caitlin Clark will potentially return.

2409
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:45,760
Speaker 7: All right, well, we'll find out a little bit more.

2410
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:48,839
Speaker 7: They'll practice today and then they play again on Friday.

2411
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:50,799
Speaker 7: We'll have more details for you as we get closer

2412
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:53,679
Speaker 7: and closer to that. Major League Baseball yesterday, the Cubs

2413
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 7: swept the Brewers six' four in the first four to.

2414
01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:58,720
Speaker 7: One in the. Second it was The reds getting their

2415
01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 7: third straight win over The Da. Angels six to four

2416
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:03,759
Speaker 7: was the final score. There Saint louis beat The Miami

2417
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:06,720
Speaker 7: marlins by a score of seven to. Four and, yes

2418
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:10,160
Speaker 7: there's a starting quarterback named also up in the northern

2419
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:12,599
Speaker 7: part of the state In South. Bend what's that all?

2420
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:12,880
Speaker 18: ABOUT.

2421
01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:16,519
Speaker 10: Cj carr will be taking Over Ridley leonard there From Marcus.

2422
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:19,559
Speaker 10: Freeman seem like pretty intense back and forth between him

2423
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 10: And Kenny Minschie carr a little bit more of the

2424
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:26,080
Speaker 10: decorated high school, recruit their red shirt. Freshman and, yes

2425
01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:30,120
Speaker 10: he is the grandson Of Lloyd. Carr so talking about you,

2426
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:33,000
Speaker 10: know house, divided maybe a little bit, there but, yes

2427
01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 10: quite the opener At miami week, one you don't ease into.

2428
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:38,720
Speaker 10: It TEXAS a and m week. Two that's a little

2429
01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 10: different Than Daniel jones's opening situation here In. Indy so, YES.

2430
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:45,559
Speaker 10: Cj carr the quarterback and what do we have? Left

2431
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 10: is it just The saints in THE?

2432
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:50,439
Speaker 12: Nfl, yes they are the last team standing when it

2433
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 12: comes to who is.

2434
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:55,719
Speaker 10: That Battle Tyler shuck and Who Spencer Rattler Gosh, ratler

2435
01:52:55,880 --> 01:52:58,960
Speaker 10: a Former netflix star Of, Well what's the?

2436
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:01,439
Speaker 12: SHOW qb One beyond The lights was the name of the.

2437
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 7: Show, yeah what started At oklahoma ended up In South?

2438
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 7: CAROLINA i think.

2439
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 10: Yeah Notre dame played on The bowl game IF i remember.

2440
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:09,599
Speaker 10: Correctly do you guys see the live golf rankings from

2441
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:10,600
Speaker 10: this weekend did not?

2442
01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:14,760
Speaker 7: Happen what rabbit hole were you going down last?

2443
01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:18,040
Speaker 10: Night saw that they? Had let me make SURE i

2444
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:19,680
Speaker 10: get this right. HERE i don't want to make sure

2445
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:21,840
Speaker 10: THAT i missed the numbers. HERE i want to say

2446
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 10: it was four hundred and twenty thousand viewing on now

2447
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:29,920
Speaker 10: this Is Big fox viewing On fox On sunday for

2448
01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 10: their final round THE Pga tour had three point five,

2449
01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:42,760
Speaker 10: Million so three point five million for THE Pga. Tour with,

2450
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:47,000
Speaker 10: That Scottie scheffler, win The Sebastian munjos win four hundred

2451
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 10: and twenty six.

2452
01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:50,719
Speaker 7: Thousand see here's the thing, though with lift Did Sebastian

2453
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 7: munyos win or Did John rahm?

2454
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:55,040
Speaker 10: Win yeah that was kind of, confusing which THE pga

2455
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 10: tour can kind of get confusing with that. Too, Yeah

2456
01:53:56,960 --> 01:53:58,680
Speaker 10: i'm not going to totally blame lift for, that but,

2457
01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:00,840
Speaker 10: yeah it was a big infusing. There it's Like John

2458
01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:02,840
Speaker 10: ROMs dumping milk on his. HEAD i was, like, wait

2459
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:06,519
Speaker 10: Didn't Sebastian munoz just win in a? Playoff all?

2460
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:08,879
Speaker 7: Right coming up at a, moment we'll have more reactions

2461
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:11,160
Speaker 7: and feedback on the fan. Text one More richardson, THOUGHT

2462
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:12,479
Speaker 7: i want to throw your. Way all, right we'll do

2463
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:14,280
Speaker 7: that next as we continue on ninety three five and.

2464
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 7: ONE i was seven five of the. Fan, LOOK i

2465
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:21,920
Speaker 7: know that the twenty twenty two season was okay For Damiel.

2466
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 7: Jones The giants went nine six and one when he was.

2467
01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:30,040
Speaker 7: Start he started sixteen. Games he was nine six and

2468
01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:32,360
Speaker 7: one in those. Games they played a couple of playoff.

2469
01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 7: Games they were one in. One he was not great

2470
01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 7: in either of those playoff. Games he was. Okay actually

2471
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 7: he's okay in the first. ONE i shouldn't say, that

2472
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 7: but that's been an. Outlier twenty nineteen he was three and.

2473
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 7: Nine twenty, twenty they were five and nine twenty twenty,

2474
01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:50,160
Speaker 7: one he was four and seven as a. Starter twenty

2475
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 7: twenty three he was one in, five twenty twenty four

2476
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:57,680
Speaker 7: he was two and. Eight i'm just curious how we

2477
01:54:57,840 --> 01:55:00,920
Speaker 7: bank on the one decent season that he's had when

2478
01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:04,920
Speaker 7: everything that's been sandwiched around it with fairly large sample

2479
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:07,800
Speaker 7: sizes aren't Good, James they're just.

2480
01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:11,360
Speaker 14: Not that was my question For Saint. Styching and again

2481
01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:13,320
Speaker 14: you got to go back through years to find good,

2482
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 14: play good sustain play From Daniel. Jones and AGAIN i

2483
01:55:18,200 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 14: have said it all. MORNING i am not gonna sit

2484
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:23,840
Speaker 14: here and say That Anthony richardson is blameless and he

2485
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 14: should start no questions, asked because he has to wear this.

2486
01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:31,640
Speaker 12: Too his, DEVELOPMENT a large part of.

2487
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:32,160
Speaker 18: It is on.

2488
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:35,120
Speaker 14: Him he knew the things that he needed to do

2489
01:55:35,400 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 14: to be the, guy and part of that was also

2490
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:40,040
Speaker 14: due to. Injury but For Daniel, JONES i just can't

2491
01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:44,040
Speaker 14: sit here and say that he's this, safe steady pick

2492
01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 14: because he has not been that player throughout his. Career

2493
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 14: complice of, percentage in my, opinion is not, everything and

2494
01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:54,160
Speaker 14: when you look at, EVERYTHING i think that you would

2495
01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:58,720
Speaker 14: lean more Towards Daniel jones still being sort of a volatile,

2496
01:55:58,760 --> 01:56:01,000
Speaker 14: player AND i would argue.

2497
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 12: Against anybody who is willing to go about.

2498
01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:03,640
Speaker 18: With me on.

2499
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:06,080
Speaker 7: That, kevin you had mentioned a moment ago you had

2500
01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 7: one other thought On Anthony richardson that you want to

2501
01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 7: talk about this. Morning what was?

2502
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:15,960
Speaker 10: That, YEAH i. Am is there any element that you

2503
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:16,520
Speaker 10: feel like.

2504
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 4: The?

2505
01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:20,760
Speaker 10: Colts and maybe some people feel The colts have already done?

2506
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:23,400
Speaker 10: This do you guys think The colts owe it to their?

2507
01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:27,160
Speaker 10: Franchise if you draft the, project you see it out

2508
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 10: and let me expand on. It Shane siken said yesterday

2509
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:35,280
Speaker 10: the reason Why Anthony richardson wasn't starting was largely rooted

2510
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:41,960
Speaker 10: in a line of. Scrimmage operationally again making. Checks would

2511
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:46,280
Speaker 10: it be considered good and or necessary? Coaching For Shane

2512
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:49,920
Speaker 10: syken to, say all, right you know, What i'd love

2513
01:56:50,120 --> 01:56:53,280
Speaker 10: for the menu to look like The Cheesecake, factory but

2514
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:55,360
Speaker 10: it can't with this. Guy it's got to look like

2515
01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:59,880
Speaker 10: steak and, check freaking love staking. Check and that's. Fine

2516
01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:03,160
Speaker 10: that's what the menu is going to look. Like we're

2517
01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:07,320
Speaker 10: going to HAVE x amount of plays and we're going

2518
01:57:07,400 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 10: to get him out there because he needs. Reps he

2519
01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 10: needs to see Those those eyes can't be the virgin.

2520
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:15,800
Speaker 10: Eyes they've got to see, things and we're going to

2521
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:19,280
Speaker 10: evaluate him on his, availability which is in, question on

2522
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 10: his ability to throw the ball, accurately which is in

2523
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:24,560
Speaker 10: question his footwork in. Games you, know that was the

2524
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:28,720
Speaker 10: big emphasis this, offseason and we'll play him in that setting.

2525
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:31,240
Speaker 10: Again we'll be a little bit more reserved from a playbook,

2526
01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:34,760
Speaker 10: standpoint but will cater to what he, likes what he

2527
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:38,480
Speaker 10: feels comfortable. With those sorts of things will further the,

2528
01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 10: evaluation and we'll make another decision off of. That is

2529
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:48,240
Speaker 10: there any part that Change stike and owes it to

2530
01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:52,040
Speaker 10: the franchise to do that With Anthony richardson or is

2531
01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:55,720
Speaker 10: it now you already tried it and throw it in the.

2532
01:57:55,760 --> 01:57:57,640
Speaker 7: Trash, well he clearly feels like he owes it to

2533
01:57:57,680 --> 01:58:00,360
Speaker 7: the franchise and to the players to Pick Daniel.

2534
01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 10: Jones so you would be a, Nope, James.

2535
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:06,760
Speaker 12: YEAH i don't necessarily think that you owe it to

2536
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:09,120
Speaker 12: the fans to do, that BECAUSE.

2537
01:58:08,920 --> 01:58:11,200
Speaker 10: I didn't say the. FANS i said to the. Franchise

2538
01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:13,800
Speaker 10: when you draft him fourth OVER, ok when you draft

2539
01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 10: someone fourth, overall when you draft this big of a.

2540
01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:21,080
Speaker 10: Project have you reached this point in the crossroads where all, right,

2541
01:58:21,400 --> 01:58:25,240
Speaker 10: again the full playbook is not open to. Him, yeah all,

2542
01:58:25,320 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 10: right you would like it to be open to, him

2543
01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:28,760
Speaker 10: but it's. Not so should they now live in the

2544
01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:32,320
Speaker 10: reality of let's cater a game plan around what he, does,

2545
01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:35,480
Speaker 10: well what he. Likes he's obviously started games and had

2546
01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:38,400
Speaker 10: some sort of success in THE. Nfl let's cater around.

2547
01:58:38,440 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 10: That let's evaluate him trying to stay, healthy trying to

2548
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:46,760
Speaker 10: be more, accurate improve. Footwork do you owe it again

2549
01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:51,800
Speaker 10: to your franchise to do that or is it now screw?

2550
01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:55,800
Speaker 10: It you had two, years it's time For Daniel. Jones,

2551
01:58:56,600 --> 01:58:57,680
Speaker 10: yeah it's probably as changes my.

2552
01:58:57,720 --> 01:58:59,160
Speaker 12: ANSWER i thought you said fans at, first WHICH i

2553
01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:04,040
Speaker 12: was a bit. Confused you elaborated on, that BUT i

2554
01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:04,520
Speaker 12: don't think.

2555
01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:08,800
Speaker 14: THAT i think you owe it to your franchise to

2556
01:59:08,840 --> 01:59:12,840
Speaker 14: try to win as much as you, can and you

2557
01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:14,120
Speaker 14: owe it to the guys in the locker room try

2558
01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:15,200
Speaker 14: to win as much as you. Can and if you

2559
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:17,440
Speaker 14: truly believe That Daniel jones gives you the best chance to,

2560
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:18,600
Speaker 14: win you play.

2561
01:59:18,720 --> 01:59:20,600
Speaker 10: Him so why do you ever draft? Projects?

2562
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:23,560
Speaker 14: Then, WELL i think this when you just admit you

2563
01:59:23,600 --> 01:59:27,200
Speaker 14: made a mistake a massive MISTAKE i honestly think that

2564
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:30,640
Speaker 14: the Anthe richian experiment here In indianapolis will affect how

2565
01:59:31,120 --> 01:59:34,600
Speaker 14: teams view players that are like him in the. Future

2566
01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:38,920
Speaker 14: and those players are probably, thinking or those scouts are probably,

2567
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:42,120
Speaker 14: thinking we're not picking somebody who's of THIS ilk again

2568
01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:42,920
Speaker 14: in the top.

2569
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:45,240
Speaker 12: Five so that's HOW i look at.

2570
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:47,600
Speaker 14: It you have to, admit AND i think they ad

2571
01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:50,040
Speaker 14: viited it, yesterday even though it wasn't a flat out.

2572
01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 14: Statement you admitted you whipped on the biggest draft, pick

2573
01:59:54,040 --> 01:59:57,000
Speaker 14: the most important draft, pick the highest draft, picks Is Andrew.

2574
01:59:57,120 --> 02:00:00,480
Speaker 14: Luck and OBVIOUSLY i think that that is something that

2575
02:00:00,720 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 14: is going to be hard to. Overcome but if you

2576
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:08,640
Speaker 14: feel that you can't find a solution with, him then

2577
02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:09,480
Speaker 14: don't keep playing.

2578
02:00:09,560 --> 02:00:10,240
Speaker 12: Him you play the other.

2579
02:00:10,280 --> 02:00:10,440
Speaker 18: Guy.

2580
02:00:10,760 --> 02:00:14,320
Speaker 7: Mark let's do something nice for. Everybody got a family

2581
02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:16,879
Speaker 7: four pack to go see The india eleven Place saturday

2582
02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:22,360
Speaker 7: Against MIAMI, fc seven. Pm what's the keyword you're looking for?

2583
02:00:22,640 --> 02:00:24,000
Speaker 7: Today how about?

2584
02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:27,240
Speaker 17: This this would be the eleventh quarterback The colts are

2585
02:00:27,360 --> 02:00:31,440
Speaker 17: starting Since Andrew luck. Retired you're not going to make

2586
02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:34,680
Speaker 17: people name name all of, them your little name all of,

2587
02:00:34,720 --> 02:00:35,800
Speaker 17: them my beer till.

2588
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:37,320
Speaker 10: Midnight don't name all of.

2589
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:40,640
Speaker 17: Them, okay so you've got Since Andrew look, Retired you've

2590
02:00:40,640 --> 02:00:44,800
Speaker 17: Got Jacobe, brissett you Got Matt, Ryan Philip, rivers you've

2591
02:00:44,840 --> 02:00:49,080
Speaker 17: got help me out. Here, Uh Anthony, Richardson Daniel, jones,

2592
02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:55,320
Speaker 17: Now Joe Flajoe, Flacco, Gardner Minshew Carson, Wentz Carson, Wentz.

2593
02:00:56,920 --> 02:00:57,240
Speaker 10: Who AM i?

2594
02:00:57,320 --> 02:01:00,760
Speaker 17: Forgetting i'm leaving. One i'm leaving them. Open if you

2595
02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:03,120
Speaker 17: can name ones THAT i didn't. Mention there's a couple

2596
02:01:03,200 --> 02:01:06,520
Speaker 17: out there since when Since Andrew look, retired.

2597
02:01:07,880 --> 02:01:11,120
Speaker 10: Who has started a game for The. COLTS i know

2598
02:01:11,200 --> 02:01:11,400
Speaker 10: one of?

2599
02:01:11,480 --> 02:01:13,200
Speaker 4: Them and that this is.

2600
02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:16,200
Speaker 10: Do we want to do?

2601
02:01:16,280 --> 02:01:17,800
Speaker 12: Text we do phone calls for.

2602
02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:21,920
Speaker 7: This let's do the old Fashioned so we did text line.

2603
02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:24,960
Speaker 7: Yesterday let's do phone calls, two, three, nine, ten. Seventy

2604
02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:27,800
Speaker 7: first one that can give you an appropriate, answer an acceptable,

2605
02:01:27,880 --> 02:01:29,000
Speaker 7: answer we'll get the.

2606
02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:31,400
Speaker 12: Tickets that sounds, good that works for.

2607
02:01:31,480 --> 02:01:33,880
Speaker 7: Me all, Right we'll do. That and we even have

2608
02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:36,080
Speaker 7: a spot in The Fantasy league coming up in a

2609
02:01:36,080 --> 02:01:37,960
Speaker 7: few minutes as well as we finish up strong and.

2610
02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:41,520
Speaker 7: TALK i Promised kevin Little notre dame action coming your

2611
02:01:41,560 --> 02:01:46,320
Speaker 7: way next ninety three five and one seven fan lots of,

2612
02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:48,800
Speaker 7: changes Little David bowie there From Mark. Dykton you'll be

2613
02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:52,400
Speaker 7: posting the playlist later on today as, always, right all,

2614
02:01:52,480 --> 02:01:53,760
Speaker 7: right that's what we like. Saying and we have a

2615
02:01:53,800 --> 02:01:56,400
Speaker 7: winner FOR id eleven family four pack that could have

2616
02:01:56,440 --> 02:01:59,120
Speaker 7: gone with one of three. Answers what were the answers

2617
02:01:59,200 --> 02:02:01,000
Speaker 7: that were? Available what answer did you.

2618
02:02:01,400 --> 02:02:02,760
Speaker 12: Shout out To brian who?

2619
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:05,880
Speaker 17: Won so my question, was this is the eleventh quarterback

2620
02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:08,440
Speaker 17: that The colts will start Since Andrew luck hung it

2621
02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:15,800
Speaker 17: up in twenty. Nineteen so the answers available WERE i, Said,

2622
02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:18,320
Speaker 17: scott there's he Said Nick, foles which is the Correct Nick.

2623
02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:22,760
Speaker 17: Foles and then there Was Brian, hoyer WHICH i completely forget,

2624
02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:25,480
Speaker 17: about but he started one game in twenty. Nineteen and

2625
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:27,960
Speaker 17: Then Sam ellinger was the other. Option but all in,

2626
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:31,960
Speaker 17: Total Jacoby, Brissett Brian, Hoyer Philip, Rivers Carson, Wentz Matt,

2627
02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:36,440
Speaker 17: Ryan Sam, Ellinger Nick, Foles, Gardner, Minshew Anthony, Richardson Joe.

2628
02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:40,440
Speaker 12: Flacco there you. Go it is a murderer's. Row who's

2629
02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:40,920
Speaker 12: who and?

2630
02:02:41,040 --> 02:02:45,040
Speaker 7: Who and we got a text FROM jkb, says Maybe

2631
02:02:45,080 --> 02:02:47,360
Speaker 7: kevin's remembering this from when he was just a tiny.

2632
02:02:47,440 --> 02:02:50,680
Speaker 7: Baby there was a car dealership In indianapolis with a

2633
02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:56,280
Speaker 7: very catchy jingle about Big Dan. Jones there you, go

2634
02:02:57,360 --> 02:02:59,440
Speaker 7: you want to rename It Dan Jones?

2635
02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:03,240
Speaker 10: Jones, Yes Dan. Jones does this change your win total

2636
02:03:03,240 --> 02:03:05,240
Speaker 10: prediction for The? Colts not.

2637
02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:08,160
Speaker 7: NECESSARILY i just don't know where the where do they

2638
02:03:08,200 --> 02:03:09,960
Speaker 7: go after the season's over with the guy on a

2639
02:03:10,000 --> 02:03:12,520
Speaker 7: one year contract for fourteen? Million because if they do

2640
02:03:12,680 --> 02:03:15,520
Speaker 7: win nine or ten games and they do get a

2641
02:03:15,600 --> 02:03:18,000
Speaker 7: wild card spot and they get spanked and thrown, out

2642
02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:19,080
Speaker 7: now what.

2643
02:03:19,160 --> 02:03:19,440
Speaker 4: Do you do?

2644
02:03:19,640 --> 02:03:19,880
Speaker 7: Next?

2645
02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:25,160
Speaker 10: James did changing for you positively or or? Negatively?

2646
02:03:26,120 --> 02:03:27,240
Speaker 5: NO i think.

2647
02:03:27,440 --> 02:03:30,880
Speaker 14: You or it might have Been Stephen. HOLDER i think

2648
02:03:30,880 --> 02:03:33,040
Speaker 14: it Was Stephen holder OF espn covers The. Colts he

2649
02:03:33,200 --> 02:03:36,200
Speaker 14: was saying that we were all kind of talking ourselves

2650
02:03:36,240 --> 02:03:39,200
Speaker 14: into these. Circles but no matter which quarterback they, started

2651
02:03:39,480 --> 02:03:41,000
Speaker 14: the one loss total was going to be the same

2652
02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:44,920
Speaker 14: more or, less probably because both will. Play So, NO

2653
02:03:45,240 --> 02:03:47,040
Speaker 14: i don't feel any differently about the one loss total at.

2654
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:50,360
Speaker 10: All seven and a half the over under for The.

2655
02:03:50,400 --> 02:03:54,200
Speaker 7: Colts someone, says you Forgot Scott. Tolzen he was pretty.

2656
02:03:55,680 --> 02:03:55,880
Speaker 13: Wasn't.

2657
02:03:55,880 --> 02:03:58,400
Speaker 12: He Pre, yeah, yeah he didn't. COUNT i think that's

2658
02:03:58,400 --> 02:03:59,480
Speaker 12: WHY i Guess that's why.

2659
02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:01,720
Speaker 10: People last about. That, YEAH i think he was that

2660
02:04:01,840 --> 02:04:04,920
Speaker 10: total ex giving. GAME i want to say twenty.

2661
02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:08,120
Speaker 17: SIXTEEN i Believe colsing started a game in twenty, sixteen

2662
02:04:08,160 --> 02:04:10,200
Speaker 17: in the game in twenty. Seventeen Then Andrew luck took

2663
02:04:10,200 --> 02:04:13,720
Speaker 17: over in full in twenty, eighteen and then after that Was, Brissett, Lawyer, Rivers,

2664
02:04:13,800 --> 02:04:17,520
Speaker 17: Wentz Ryan, Ellinger, Foles Minshew, Richardson, Flacco.

2665
02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:22,200
Speaker 7: KEVIN i, promise while we're talking, Quarterbacks Notre dame as

2666
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:24,000
Speaker 7: a new, quarterback what are the fighting iris was going

2667
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:26,240
Speaker 7: to do this? Year follow up on a big year

2668
02:04:26,280 --> 02:04:28,400
Speaker 7: last year From Marcus freeman and the? Boys what's coming

2669
02:04:28,440 --> 02:04:28,640
Speaker 7: down the?

2670
02:04:28,720 --> 02:04:28,960
Speaker 13: PIPE.

2671
02:04:30,080 --> 02:04:36,360
Speaker 10: Cj. CARR i don't want to say like crazy highly ranked,

2672
02:04:36,400 --> 02:04:39,320
Speaker 10: recruit but definitely a high ranked. Recruit, yes the grandson

2673
02:04:39,320 --> 02:04:43,360
Speaker 10: Of Lloyd. Carr he wins the starting quarterback. Job and you,

2674
02:04:43,400 --> 02:04:44,880
Speaker 10: know it's kind of rare For Notre dame to have

2675
02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:47,920
Speaker 10: a quarterback with no. Experience they've portled it up a

2676
02:04:48,080 --> 02:04:51,440
Speaker 10: lot here, Lately, Riley, Leonard Sam, hartman remember the Name Jack.

2677
02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:56,000
Speaker 10: Cone so this is very unusual For Notre dame to

2678
02:04:56,400 --> 02:05:00,600
Speaker 10: have an inexperienced starting. Quarterback and you are the year

2679
02:05:00,880 --> 02:05:03,640
Speaker 10: At miami and home To TEXAS a AND. M you

2680
02:05:03,720 --> 02:05:07,120
Speaker 10: actually go To arkansas also in the month Of september,

2681
02:05:07,240 --> 02:05:11,920
Speaker 10: there so we'll be quite the. Introduction it's college football.

2682
02:05:14,160 --> 02:05:17,080
Speaker 12: Football put me to sleep right. There mark shut that.

2683
02:05:19,400 --> 02:05:27,520
Speaker 10: Played for a national titles.

2684
02:05:27,000 --> 02:05:29,680
Speaker 7: Get ahold of the current streak of losing national title.

2685
02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:33,200
Speaker 7: Games Dear, jeff you're the one that brought it.

2686
02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:37,240
Speaker 10: UP i never want to talk. ABOUT i was honestly.

2687
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:40,440
Speaker 14: Curious because they have Consistently, jeff you kind of shady

2688
02:05:40,520 --> 02:05:43,520
Speaker 14: for you just you walked them hit them over.

2689
02:05:43,520 --> 02:05:43,760
Speaker 4: Here with a.

2690
02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:45,400
Speaker 12: Pipe they probably have lost two in a.

2691
02:05:45,520 --> 02:05:45,960
Speaker 19: Row is that?

2692
02:05:46,120 --> 02:05:49,960
Speaker 12: Right is a wild question to ask you get to

2693
02:05:50,080 --> 02:05:50,839
Speaker 12: national championship?

2694
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:51,560
Speaker 18: Game that? Is that is?

2695
02:05:51,640 --> 02:05:54,800
Speaker 12: Petty you know, What. BRAVO i was gonna say it took.

2696
02:05:54,680 --> 02:05:56,280
Speaker 7: You a minute to get around to, it but there you.

2697
02:05:56,360 --> 02:05:58,840
Speaker 12: Go, no, man you know you might be more petty than.

2698
02:05:58,920 --> 02:06:03,120
Speaker 7: Me see what happens as far as the other stuff

2699
02:06:03,120 --> 02:06:05,360
Speaker 7: that we need to talk about today. Too once, again

2700
02:06:05,600 --> 02:06:07,800
Speaker 7: if you're just joining us and you've been doing other

2701
02:06:07,840 --> 02:06:11,120
Speaker 7: things this. Morning Rick carlyle has got a contract extension

2702
02:06:11,160 --> 02:06:13,200
Speaker 7: with The Indiana. PACERS i don't think it's a surprise to,

2703
02:06:13,240 --> 02:06:16,080
Speaker 7: anybody but we thought we'd have some positive things to

2704
02:06:16,160 --> 02:06:18,000
Speaker 7: talk about to end the show. Today how about.

2705
02:06:18,040 --> 02:06:21,200
Speaker 12: That you're all about, positivity so have Ded.

2706
02:06:21,800 --> 02:06:24,040
Speaker 7: Well there's a guy that is the second look the

2707
02:06:24,120 --> 02:06:26,640
Speaker 7: first go. Around maybe it was the malice of the

2708
02:06:26,680 --> 02:06:29,360
Speaker 7: palace that got in the way of ultimate. Success it

2709
02:06:29,480 --> 02:06:31,600
Speaker 7: was an injury that did it this. Year but one

2710
02:06:31,640 --> 02:06:35,000
Speaker 7: thing we know About Rick, carlile he develops, talent his teams,

2711
02:06:35,080 --> 02:06:39,120
Speaker 7: win and they continuously set the bar high for other

2712
02:06:39,240 --> 02:06:42,840
Speaker 7: coaching staffs around the league to kind of catch up.

2713
02:06:42,920 --> 02:06:44,520
Speaker 7: To AND i think one of these days it's all

2714
02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:46,240
Speaker 7: going to come together For, rick at LEAST i hope it.

2715
02:06:46,360 --> 02:06:48,960
Speaker 7: Is we were talking about deserving and not deserving for

2716
02:06:49,080 --> 02:06:51,360
Speaker 7: fans and teams a little while, Ago, kevin but it

2717
02:06:51,440 --> 02:06:53,880
Speaker 7: sure seems Like Rick carlyle and The pacers and their

2718
02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:56,400
Speaker 7: fans are right there on the deserved Doorstat.

2719
02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:58,440
Speaker 10: Yeah and again a major credit To Rick carlile for

2720
02:06:58,520 --> 02:07:01,640
Speaker 10: revolved the. Times you, know the styles that he had to,

2721
02:07:01,680 --> 02:07:04,720
Speaker 10: play you, know early in his head coaching career very,

2722
02:07:04,760 --> 02:07:08,760
Speaker 10: different and the open mindedness to you, know pace and player,

2723
02:07:08,920 --> 02:07:11,560
Speaker 10: development and you, know they really had to reset things.

2724
02:07:11,600 --> 02:07:15,200
Speaker 10: Here remember that first year of twenty five Wins that

2725
02:07:15,400 --> 02:07:17,520
Speaker 10: was not the plan going. In it, was you, know

2726
02:07:17,600 --> 02:07:20,000
Speaker 10: the thought, was, hey Maybe Malcolm, brogden maybe these two

2727
02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:23,560
Speaker 10: bigs new Coach Nate bjorkran's, Gone we'll see what. Happens

2728
02:07:23,760 --> 02:07:27,440
Speaker 10: and then they had to reset within that season and

2729
02:07:28,360 --> 02:07:32,200
Speaker 10: obviously the rest is. History since, then twenty five became thirty,

2730
02:07:32,280 --> 02:07:34,760
Speaker 10: five thirty five became forty, seven and then fifty wins

2731
02:07:34,840 --> 02:07:38,320
Speaker 10: this year and a trip To game seven at THE Nba. Finals,

2732
02:07:38,440 --> 02:07:40,120
Speaker 10: yeah he's one of the greatest coaches IN nba. History

2733
02:07:40,760 --> 02:07:44,440
Speaker 10: HE'S i think he's about to be top ten and

2734
02:07:44,520 --> 02:07:46,400
Speaker 10: regular season wins AND i want to say he's there

2735
02:07:46,440 --> 02:07:48,800
Speaker 10: maybe with postseason. Wins like he's knocking on both of those.

2736
02:07:48,880 --> 02:07:51,920
Speaker 10: Doors and LIKE i said, earlier you, know keeping that

2737
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:54,960
Speaker 10: coaching staff, TOGETHER i think is a pretty rare thing

2738
02:07:55,120 --> 02:07:57,240
Speaker 10: that you, know like for, EXAMPLE nfl, wise look at

2739
02:07:57,240 --> 02:08:00,760
Speaker 10: The Detroit. Lions they make this run, boom both their

2740
02:08:00,800 --> 02:08:01,400
Speaker 10: coordinators are.

2741
02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:01,680
Speaker 7: Gone.

2742
02:08:02,360 --> 02:08:04,800
Speaker 10: Uh you, Know Mike, winer there's some reports about him

2743
02:08:05,040 --> 02:08:07,720
Speaker 10: potentially Joining Mike brown with The knicks and he has

2744
02:08:08,000 --> 02:08:11,680
Speaker 10: turned that. Down and now It's Ginny boussick And Mike,

2745
02:08:11,920 --> 02:08:15,120
Speaker 10: Uh Mike winer And Lloyd pierce all back With Rick.

2746
02:08:15,160 --> 02:08:17,800
Speaker 10: Carlisle so that's pretty rare in pro sports as.

2747
02:08:17,800 --> 02:08:19,840
Speaker 17: Well who's your ninety? Seven and the chat Said jeff

2748
02:08:19,840 --> 02:08:21,960
Speaker 17: went Full Tanya harding On Kevin boone with That Notre.

2749
02:08:22,040 --> 02:08:24,080
Speaker 7: DAME i completely.

2750
02:08:24,120 --> 02:08:28,440
Speaker 10: Agree i'm, like getting to the national title is not an. Accomplishment?

2751
02:08:29,200 --> 02:08:31,440
Speaker 7: Accomplishment what in the world was?

2752
02:08:31,520 --> 02:08:31,560
Speaker 4: That?

2753
02:08:31,840 --> 02:08:34,760
Speaker 12: Yeah it was just hat but you know what the world?

2754
02:08:35,120 --> 02:08:38,840
Speaker 12: NATURE i, like problem Of Notre dame.

2755
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:41,280
Speaker 10: Football what are your thoughts on The colts playoff win

2756
02:08:41,320 --> 02:08:41,920
Speaker 10: in the last ten?

2757
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:44,440
Speaker 7: YEARS i just like, to you, know mess with the

2758
02:08:44,480 --> 02:08:45,760
Speaker 7: toggle every once in a, while that's.

2759
02:08:45,800 --> 02:08:46,680
Speaker 12: All what's all?

2760
02:08:46,720 --> 02:08:46,880
Speaker 4: Good?

2761
02:08:48,560 --> 02:08:52,840
Speaker 12: Mark that's AN hr? Meeting Whoa why is everything turned

2762
02:08:52,880 --> 02:08:53,920
Speaker 12: into AN hr meeting for?

2763
02:08:54,000 --> 02:08:56,360
Speaker 7: You no single THING i said.

2764
02:08:56,640 --> 02:08:58,920
Speaker 17: You ain't get On kevin's toggle was gonna, say, yeah

2765
02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:02,240
Speaker 17: that's PRETTY. Hr do that on your own, time.

2766
02:09:02,360 --> 02:09:07,120
Speaker 7: Sir like it's like a fidget, Spinner you just. Messing all?

2767
02:09:07,200 --> 02:09:10,920
Speaker 7: Right come on, now, wait we're already in the reason

2768
02:09:11,000 --> 02:09:13,160
Speaker 7: that a question for you BECAUSE i had to use

2769
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:16,880
Speaker 7: a porter potty at the tennis match. Yesterday was the

2770
02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:19,440
Speaker 7: little side thing where you don't have to sit down

2771
02:09:19,520 --> 02:09:24,680
Speaker 7: and address the main thing not available to you.

2772
02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:27,200
Speaker 17: THERE i don't know where this is. GOING i know

2773
02:09:27,240 --> 02:09:29,760
Speaker 17: what he's talking about the side like, Urinal, yes thank.

2774
02:09:29,840 --> 02:09:31,960
Speaker 17: YOU i couldn't come because your son is potty, training,

2775
02:09:32,040 --> 02:09:33,200
Speaker 17: right so he sits on the.

2776
02:09:33,240 --> 02:09:34,000
Speaker 7: Top, OKAY i got.

2777
02:09:34,080 --> 02:09:37,360
Speaker 10: You it Wasn't yeah he's too he's not spraying making

2778
02:09:37,720 --> 02:09:40,160
Speaker 10: all corners of the field just yet. Here usually when

2779
02:09:40,200 --> 02:09:43,080
Speaker 10: he tries to stand, up it doesn't end too well right,

2780
02:09:43,120 --> 02:09:45,400
Speaker 10: now so weak Extream.

2781
02:09:45,400 --> 02:09:51,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, uh stay tuned all stay tuned all day long

2782
02:09:52,720 --> 02:09:55,560
Speaker 7: As Jake query will have more reaction and feedback from.

2783
02:09:55,640 --> 02:10:00,640
Speaker 12: You if you want to punch, him you. Can kevin

2784
02:10:00,680 --> 02:10:01,720
Speaker 12: gets to punch him right.

2785
02:10:01,800 --> 02:10:03,280
Speaker 10: Patiently waiting until.

2786
02:10:04,960 --> 02:10:05,440
Speaker 3: Moving up in.

2787
02:10:05,480 --> 02:10:08,560
Speaker 7: Here so, yeah stay tuned from noon to. Three jake

2788
02:10:08,600 --> 02:10:11,320
Speaker 7: has got lots of feedback for, you and we'll take

2789
02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:14,360
Speaker 7: more of your texts and phone. CALLS jmv was not

2790
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Speaker 7: pleased at all yesterday with The development'll be on the

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Speaker 7: air from three to six.

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Speaker 12: If you need to let it on the couch, YESTERDAY

2793
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Speaker 12: i feel like that was a three hour couch.

2794
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Speaker 7: Session but don't you think a lot of this just

2795
02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:26,680
Speaker 7: comes from general frustration just over the last a decade

2796
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Speaker 7: as much as.

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Speaker 17: Anything you're treading water once, Again you're like the boat And.

2798
02:10:31,320 --> 02:10:33,600
Speaker 17: Jaws the orca is sinking and the great white shark

2799
02:10:33,720 --> 02:10:35,560
Speaker 17: is coming towards, you but you've got no oxygen to

2800
02:10:35,600 --> 02:10:37,040
Speaker 17: think to blow that sucker.

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02:10:37,120 --> 02:10:39,400
Speaker 12: Up you're just slowly sinking in the. Abyss, yeah it's

2802
02:10:39,440 --> 02:10:39,960
Speaker 12: like oltz beIN.

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Speaker 7: LATELY i forget who texted it to us, yesterday but

2804
02:10:41,920 --> 02:10:44,080
Speaker 7: this was like when someone was younger and we were all,

2805
02:10:44,160 --> 02:10:46,440
Speaker 7: younger and our mom, said we're having, dinner do you

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02:10:46,520 --> 02:10:50,720
Speaker 7: want broccoli or? Cauliflower those were your choices for this coming?

2807
02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:55,800
Speaker 7: Season yuck yuck to all. That so it's it's not

2808
02:10:56,400 --> 02:10:59,880
Speaker 7: anything necessarily Against Daniel. Jones it's just that we've been

2809
02:11:00,200 --> 02:11:03,440
Speaker 7: here and seen this and done, this and it feels

2810
02:11:03,520 --> 02:11:05,880
Speaker 7: like we're getting ready to do it all over.

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Speaker 17: AGAIN i just don't think it invigorates the fan base at.

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Speaker 17: All not That Anthony richardson necessarily, would but at least

2813
02:11:10,400 --> 02:11:12,040
Speaker 17: there was, like well we could see what, happens but

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02:11:12,120 --> 02:11:12,880
Speaker 17: now it's just kind of a.

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Speaker 7: OKAY i do Think kevin's onto, it. Though you got

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Speaker 7: a guy who's an offensive coordinator who totally believes in

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02:11:18,360 --> 02:11:19,960
Speaker 7: his play, calling and he wants a guy that he

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Speaker 7: thinks can at least execute those, plays AND i think

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Speaker 7: that PART i. Get have a great. Day we'll do

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Speaker 7: it again. Tomorrow