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Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. Well, hey, everybody, Happy Monday to one.

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Speaker 2: And I'll know I am not the Tony Katz. I'm

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Speaker 2: not very Tony myself. I'm just Andrew Langer in for

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Speaker 2: Tony today. So glad I can join you on this Monday.

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Speaker 2: It is Saint Patrick's Day, Eve and we will talk

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Speaker 2: about this towards the end of the show. I am listen.

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Speaker 2: I love Saint Patrick's Day. I don't love it as

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Speaker 2: much as some of my buddies do, but I do.

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Speaker 2: I do celebrate, and we'll be celebrating tomorrow. We'll be

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Speaker 2: celebrating on Saturday. I will have some music and you're

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Speaker 2: gonna hear my experimentation with something called Sono. Over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: We got a great show. Today, we're gonna be joined

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Speaker 2: by former Member of Congress Nan Hayworth. I've been remiss,

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Speaker 2: my friend, I have been remiss in not having Nan

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Speaker 2: Hayworth on more recently. NaN's a former Member of Congress

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Speaker 2: from New York. She's a good friend, and she's brilliant,

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Speaker 2: and she's a doctor. And so we're going to have

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Speaker 2: Nan join us later on in this hour. Brent Sadler,

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Speaker 2: who's got a big brain, and as I said in

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Speaker 2: my email to him, I am genuinely envious of him

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Speaker 2: in his career. He is going to be joining us

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Speaker 2: in the second hour of the show, and then Tim

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Speaker 2: Graham is going to join us from the Media Research Center.

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Speaker 2: I got a lot to talk about. And part of

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Speaker 2: the thesis to Tim Graham is he does NewsBusters over

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Speaker 2: there at MRC. My thesis to him is, if a

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Speaker 2: war happens in the Middle East and no one there

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Speaker 2: is to report it, does it really happen? Or if

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Speaker 2: they misreport it, does it really happen. We're going to

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Speaker 2: talk to him about what's going on with the media.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to him about the Oscars, and I want

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Speaker 2: to start there all kinds of stuff going on. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: the Oscars were last night. I don't think there were

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Speaker 2: any major or up, says Landed. There weren't any major

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Speaker 2: I know you didn't watch it either. I was otherwise

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Speaker 2: I swear to God, guys, I'm not someone who comes

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Speaker 2: in and says, oh, Jada, I don't watch the other

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Speaker 2: watch the I watched the Oscars. I watch the Oscar

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Speaker 2: because my wife likes to watch the Oscars. And I'm

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Speaker 2: a huge fan of Conan O'Brien. Let me, let me,

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Speaker 2: let me get that out of the way. I am

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Speaker 2: a huge fan of Conan O'Brien and a huge fan

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Speaker 2: of Conan O'Brien. When he is silly, when he is

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Speaker 2: uh sort of making these obscure references.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love his podcast. I'm a I'm a big fan

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Speaker 2: when when he and Sona, his former assistant now co host,

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Speaker 2: when they go at each other, it is it is

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Speaker 2: comedy gold. You know, you gotta love a guy. You

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Speaker 2: got to love a guy who likes nothing more than

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Speaker 2: to do things to make his co workers laugh. I

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Speaker 2: mean an environment where you do that, obviously, and regular

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Speaker 2: job that would drive people up the wall. You know,

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Speaker 2: I probably, I don't know. I emulated and by the way,

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Speaker 2: whole hell of a lot of sleep last night for

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Speaker 2: a lot of reasons. But it's not that I emulate him.

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Speaker 2: But this is kind of how I approach my relationship

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Speaker 2: I'm always going for the eye roll thing, always trying

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Speaker 2: to go for the absurd. Absurd, that's the word that

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Speaker 2: I was looking for. Anyway, I was looking forward to

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Speaker 2: Conan O'Brien hosting I from when I gathered there were

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Speaker 2: mixed results. He did, however, start off now. You might

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Speaker 2: remember last year when he hosted that he poked fun

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Speaker 2: year in the audience. Well, this year is stepping into

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Speaker 2: last week's controversy. I'm sure Tony talked to you all

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Speaker 2: about it. Timothy Shallo May stepped in it by essentially,

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Speaker 2: uh shall we say, pooh poohing, being dismissive of folks

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Speaker 2: here's Conan last night poking at Challamey. Let's pick out

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Speaker 2: number one. Security is extremely tight tonight.

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Speaker 4: I just got to mention that, Yeah, I'm told there's

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Speaker 2: And then they cut the Chalomey. They're just Maggie left

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Speaker 2: and I have to say, yes, the dumb, the dumb

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Speaker 2: while I'm doing a ping pong movie. But of course

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Speaker 2: In the opening segment, here is Conan pivoting to Cone

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Speaker 2: getting political, getting spicy. Let's play cut number two.

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Speaker 4: twenty twelve, but there are no British actors nominated for

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Speaker 4: Best Actor or Best Actress. Yeah, British spokespersus said, yeah, well,

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Speaker 2: Uh he he can attest a test to that. I

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Speaker 2: Maybe just maybe Conan O'Brien was making some kind of

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Speaker 2: So it opened it up, and uh, and we had

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Speaker 2: are times that I have to just cut myself and

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Speaker 2: think about this. Yes, so you can. You can insert

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Speaker 2: And of course it's you know, there's nothing original here,

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Speaker 2: wasn't nominated for this. Yeah, so he was presenting I

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Speaker 2: guess the award for Best Documentary, and of course he

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Speaker 2: was making a making a nod to Milania, taking a

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Speaker 2: That's what they do. And ed he is just bombing,

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Speaker 2: and from the back, Homer heckles him and says, more funny,

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Speaker 2: you know, be more funny, Jimmy, kimme, what's all I ask?

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Speaker 2: Fonda apparently had some kind of mental glitch last night.

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Speaker 2: Javier Bardem being very predictable. Let's go ahead and play

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Speaker 2: cut number four.

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Speaker 5: No to war.

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Speaker 6: I'm free bodisty, you know, I get it.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want there to be free Palestine.

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Speaker 2: So no to free Palestine, no to war, and and

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Speaker 2: and and not to free Palestine. Oh that's not what

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Speaker 2: really don't need to. Anyway, there were all of these signs,

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Speaker 2: It's not a particularly clever joke about wanting some free Mumia. Anyway. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: play cut number five.

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Speaker 8: You Fred I love you, man, I love you. You're

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Speaker 8: the most incredible dad. You're my best friend. And I

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Speaker 8: want to have twenty thousand more babies with you.

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Speaker 2: I do, I do.

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Speaker 8: And Isla my little girl who is eight months, who

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Speaker 8: has absolutely no idea what's going on, and it's probably.

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Speaker 2: Dreaming of milk. But this is kind of a big deal.

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Speaker 8: And I love you and I love being your mom,

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Speaker 8: and I can't wait to discover life beside you, Chloe

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Speaker 8: and Maggie. You, to get to know this incandescent woman

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Speaker 8: and journey to understand the capacity of a mother's love

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Speaker 8: is the greatest collision of my life. It's Mother's Day

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Speaker 8: in the UK today, so I would like to dedicate

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Speaker 8: this to the beautiful chaos of a mother's heart.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's sweet. I like that, you know. By

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Speaker 2: the way. She won Best Supporting Actress for Hamnet, which

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Speaker 2: and here's one of the things from Saturday Night Live

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Speaker 2: an impression of Tucker Carlson. Tucker, what you had to

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Speaker 2: say about this, Let's go ahead and play cut number six.

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Speaker 9: Leftist woke America's favorite movie this year is about sinning.

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Speaker 10: Huh?

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Speaker 2: Why does that not surprise me?

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Speaker 9: No, sorry, kids, we don't go to church anymore. We

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Speaker 9: go to sinners. That's the rule. That's it's the goal. Now,

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Speaker 2: Her name is Nan Hayworth, doctor nanay Which. She's a physician.

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Speaker 2: I tend to be eorish about midterm elections generally when

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Speaker 15: The republic the the Democrats' biggest problem is the Democrats themselves,

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Speaker 2: To see this moment, right, And I guess the one

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Speaker 15: Absolutely and certainly Andrew you know, I've lived it as

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Speaker 2: You know, Nan, I'll tell you, I'll to share this

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Speaker 2: to start seeing prices stabilize and then come back down again?

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Speaker 15: Yes, well, yesterday would be good. But yes, so it's

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Speaker 15: being simplistic and yet accurate. Answer is the sooner the better?

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Speaker 15: The realistic answer is and you know Mark Alfern, who's

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Speaker 15: a friend and I are Mark, and you know he's

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Speaker 15: a common sense democrat. Uh. And you know he has

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Speaker 15: been saying recently, you know, with in recent days that

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Speaker 15: you know, if this doesn't extend past maybe a month

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Speaker 15: or so, which I think is kind of what you know,

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Speaker 15: all of us kind of ballparking this thing anticipate, if

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Speaker 15: you will, given the incredible swiftness and effectiveness, uh and

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Speaker 15: surgical precision and especially teamed with Mossad enhancing our own

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Speaker 15: fine men and women in our intelligent intelligence community and

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Speaker 15: our incredible military, you know, testament to to the talents

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Speaker 15: of everybody on this team, including Treasury sextuary, Besident Energy sectuary, right,

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Speaker 15: Marco Rubio, who is just an absolute superstar. But I

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Speaker 15: think you know, if we if these all bear the

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Speaker 15: fruit we think they will in terms of eliminating the

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Speaker 15: threat of the theocracy effectively and of course opening up

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Speaker 15: the straight of horror moos, which is a big part

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Speaker 15: of the goal right now, then I think you know,

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Speaker 15: you'll see oil prices fall down because so much what

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Speaker 15: it goes into oil futures is of course, you know,

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Speaker 15: is with all investors, it's emotional. All markets reflect emotion

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Speaker 15: and people are self protective, so they're anticipating. No, you know,

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Speaker 15: it's the price is going.

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Speaker 16: To go up.

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Speaker 15: But you know, what we need to emphasize again on

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Speaker 15: the Republican side is a couple of things. Number One,

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Speaker 15: thanks to President Trump opening up American hydrocarbon development so forcefully. Uh,

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Speaker 15: you know, we are actually energy independent thanks to President Trump. Uh,

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Speaker 15: neutralizing the threat of Maduro and converting without regime change

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Speaker 15: in Venezuela. Converting Venezuela into a friendly nation. Yeah, with's

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Speaker 15: the muscle behind us, We get that. But you know,

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Speaker 15: converting into friends. You know, he's playing six level chats

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Speaker 15: against the ultimate enemy, which is of course the acts

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Speaker 15: of the led by the Chinese Communist Party.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 15: So, I think we can see a lot of positive

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Speaker 15: things happening. I anticipate that we will. And again we

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Speaker 15: need to get that message out there. And all these

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Speaker 15: Cabinet members have been incredible along with the President as

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Speaker 15: presenting this messaging. Consumers have to see it in results.

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Speaker 15: But the other two key points. Number one, sure, we

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Speaker 15: are acting to neutralize a threat that thanks to the

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Speaker 15: Obama administrations and Obama Part three, which is the Biden administration.

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Speaker 15: They opened up billions and billions and billions of dollars

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Speaker 15: of cash flows to the theocracy. So thank you for

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Speaker 15: presenting President Trump with what became a nuclear powder cake.

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Speaker 2: Number one.

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Speaker 15: Number two, Americans are suffering most in blue states. So

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Speaker 15: that's part of the problem is these blue state blues.

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Speaker 15: If you live in the Roadtate, you are not going

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Speaker 15: to feel the benefits nearly the same way as folks

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Speaker 15: who live in red states run by sensible Republicans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and one one of them, Well, I

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Speaker 2: was going to say, one of my concerns is places

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Speaker 2: like New York, where I'm from originally where you're from.

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Speaker 2: I know you're from New Jersey, but you lived in

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Speaker 2: New York for a very long time. But you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, you can do so much on making energy,

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Speaker 2: you know, making our energy portfolio much wider, right, much

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Speaker 2: greater sources and options. But when you get regulators in

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Speaker 2: places like New York and Maryland who are so hell bent,

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Speaker 2: you know, the consumers there won't quite see it. So

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Speaker 2: I get I get a little a little nervous there.

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Speaker 2: But then we're talking about the margins. Let me come

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Speaker 2: back to I'm sorry, Dan let me come back to

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Speaker 2: something for a second. Because you talked about China. I

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Speaker 2: think it's really interesting the media is not talking about this.

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Speaker 2: China has stopped aggressive overflights over Taiwan in the wake

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Speaker 2: of this action. I think that says it all, doesn't

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Speaker 2: It huge? Huge?

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Speaker 15: Absolutely yes, And we're not of course the media. You know,

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Speaker 15: it's like this could be an insulted children, but it's

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Speaker 15: like dealing with some shiny objects. And you know, I'm

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Speaker 15: sorry America's children, forget me because you're much better than

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Speaker 15: the media. But that's the problem. Also, you know, look,

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Speaker 15: we're seen Chinese overflights though that looks good for the

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Speaker 15: Trump administration. Yeah, maybe we don't go there, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 15: and so again again the hegiemonic left run our institutions,

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Speaker 15: giant Democrat money launder machine. I get angry and angry

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Speaker 15: at America's academy for what I mean that all represents,

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Speaker 15: and they are all desperately clinging to their power because

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Speaker 15: they know every passing hour, not just day with Donald

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Speaker 15: Trump in office, means that their power and wealth are threatened. Actively.

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Speaker 15: That's why they're rooting against America. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 15: you cannot and that one hopes is why the American public.

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Speaker 15: To return to your initial point, the American public is

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Speaker 15: starting to filter this through.

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Speaker 2: So Nan and I know you're doing a lot of

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Speaker 2: work with our good friends at the RNC. How do

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Speaker 2: folks find out more about the work that you're doing.

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Speaker 2: How do they get involved?

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Speaker 15: Oh gosh, you know, Andrew, I'm so I'm rather shy,

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Speaker 15: So it don't say a lot on say X but

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Speaker 15: if they go to at Nan Haywards, they will see

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Speaker 15: the occasional comment or maybe one I just made five

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Speaker 15: minutes ago in the one five minutes before that.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: Go to at nan Hayworth on on XNN listen. We gotta,

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Speaker 2: we gotta, we got to keep him better touch my friend.

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Speaker 15: It is always an honor to be with you, Andrew,

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Speaker 15: and I cherish your voice. So thank you, Jeank you

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Speaker 15: lead me to your guests.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome. That was folks, That was Nan Hayworth, former

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Speaker 2: member of Congress. Go check her out at nan Na

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Speaker 2: n Hayworth h A y W R T H on

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Speaker 2: x listen. Oh, Pete booda judge. You all know Pete

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Speaker 2: boota judge. He's a local guy at least he was

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Speaker 2: at one point, I think kind of pee boot to

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Speaker 2: Judge had something to say. Let's hear that. I'm Andrew Langer.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Kats Today. Let's talk more about this

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Speaker 2: later on. But I've been mucking around with Suno, which

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Speaker 2: is this music ai app, and so a lot of

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Speaker 2: what you're hearing today is stuff that I've put together

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Speaker 2: via Suno over the over the last again, last couple

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Speaker 2: of days. Anyway, Hi everybody, I'm Andrew Langer in for

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today. Here on Tony Katz Today, you can

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Speaker 2: join the conversation Andrew Langer Radio. All one word Andrew

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Speaker 2: Langer Radio at gmail dot com is how you reach me.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: You can also at me at Andrew Underscore Langer on

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Speaker 2: x SO talking about the Democrats and talking about, yes,

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Speaker 2: me being a bit e orish about the midterm election prospects,

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Speaker 2: but that eorishness, I know that's not a word, you know,

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Speaker 2: it might. My pessimism is tempered by just how unpopular

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Speaker 2: the left can be. And what's driving that well, I

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Speaker 2: mean it's stuff like this.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Here's here is Pete bodhage Edge, the former mayor of

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Speaker 2: what Fort Wayne, who then got catabulted onto the national

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Speaker 2: stage before he was really ready for prime time. He

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Speaker 2: is trying to remain relevant. I think there was a

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Speaker 2: news article about that recently, the People to Judge's time

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Speaker 2: in the Wilderness. Here is what he had to say

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Speaker 2: when asked about this military action in ira Let's play

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Speaker 2: at number twelve.

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Speaker 10: This is clearly amateur hour at the Pentagon and in

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Speaker 10: the White House. And again, the price is being paid

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Speaker 10: by all of us. You can also just tell from

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Speaker 10: the administration's attitude towards this war, the fact that they're

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Speaker 10: putting out videos treating this like a video game.

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Speaker 2: It's not a video game for the families of the fallen.

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Speaker 10: And then just this week we saw fund campaign fundraising

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Speaker 10: materials being put out emails where the President's committee, the

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Speaker 10: President's political operation, was raising money off of images of

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Speaker 10: him at a dignified transfer. Any politician who does that

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Speaker 10: has no business leading American troops in the war. If

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Speaker 10: the president is willing to raise campaign funds over the

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Speaker 10: bodies of America's war dead, he is unfit to be

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Speaker 10: the commander in chief.

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Speaker 2: Got it, got it, got it. So that's that's the standard.

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Speaker 2: We can go back and look at at the ways

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Speaker 2: the Democrats have raised money literally on the graves of

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Speaker 2: the fallen and peoples. And by the way, my apologies

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Speaker 2: South Bend, not Fort Wayne. It's been guys, it's been

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Speaker 2: a fascinating twenty four hours.

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Speaker 3: So I do, but I do.

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Speaker 2: Apologize for that. Was that was very much, very much

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Speaker 2: on me amateur hour. You know again, it's almost as though,

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Speaker 2: you know, you take the caricature of the situation and

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Speaker 2: you're angry about the caricature of the situation. It's not

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Speaker 2: to say anything about what's actually happening on the ground, right,

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Speaker 2: you know, It's like yet Nan and I were talking

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Speaker 2: about the issue of the media not wanting to report

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Speaker 2: on good things, and I report on things fairly. One

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Speaker 2: of the examples that I wanted to use was last weekend,

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Speaker 2: trying to get a sense as to what was actually

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Speaker 2: happening on the ground in Iran or in the air

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Speaker 2: in the skies over Iron what was actually happening. It

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Speaker 2: pulled up a CNN like a fifteen minute summary on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: And you know how I knew that things were going badly.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't because of anything that I saw or anything

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Speaker 2: they were saying. It's because they had the they had

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Speaker 2: the very somber, the somber negative music, the tragic music

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Speaker 2: that was out there. The whole idea being that they

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Speaker 2: that they are trying to manipulate you. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: it's like folks who who who think that that's uh

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Speaker 2: Sarah Palin said, I can see Russia from my house,

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Speaker 2: when in fact that was Tina Fey, Right. You focus

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Speaker 2: on the caricature as opposed to as opposed to what's

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Speaker 2: really going on there amateur hour. You know, that is

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Speaker 2: the desecration of the dead, that is trying to score

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Speaker 2: political points on the backs of the dead. You know,

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Speaker 2: maybe maybe it's a it's an unintentional cell phone on

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Speaker 2: the part of Pete Buddha Jetge. Listen, We're going to

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Speaker 2: find out what's really happening on the ground in the

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Speaker 2: next hour. Are going to be joined by Brent Sidler.

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Speaker 2: He's a scholar with the Heritage Foundation and the US

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Speaker 2: Naval Institute. I'm Andrew Langer. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: Line from Baal Hartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Hey there, everybody, I am Andrew Langer in for Tony Katz. Today,

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. Today We've got a great hour. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna be joined by Brent Sadler. He's a scholar with

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Speaker 2: the Heritage Foundation. I'm going to talk about these naval

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Speaker 2: operations and what's going on in the Strait of Horror

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Speaker 2: Moves and what needs to happen to keep it open?

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Speaker 2: Make it open? Is it open? Why can't they just

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Speaker 2: build a canal around it, which of course they can't.

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Speaker 2: But you know, next hour we're gonna be job by

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Speaker 2: Tim Graham from the Media Research Center, going to talk

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Speaker 2: about the oscars in SNL and the news coverage of

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Speaker 2: this war in Iran. I want to go here normally

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Speaker 2: at the beginning of the hour, any hour like to,

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Speaker 2: I like to have a little bit of fun, you know,

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Speaker 2: first segment to set the tone. We try to be

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Speaker 2: a little irreverent on on things. And you know, I

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Speaker 2: could play the Saturday Night Live stuff because again, if

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Speaker 2: you haven't been watching last week's especially listen if you

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Speaker 2: get a chance, you can get the peacock Gap or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Last week's Ryan Gosling episode is actually pretty funny because

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Speaker 2: it's not very political. I'm getting a little tired of

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Speaker 2: the Trump impression, which I think is like a one

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Speaker 2: note thing. But Ryan Goslings was pretty funny. There were

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Speaker 2: some moments that this weekend too. I'll play those later on.

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Speaker 2: But but who knew that, you know, the John Fetterman,

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Speaker 2: John listen, I'll say, I take it back, you know,

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Speaker 2: I take it back. You know, all of the comments

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Speaker 2: that it made about about him as he was running

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Speaker 2: maybe maybe maybe you know, having his sort of his

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Speaker 2: brain issues, you know, knocked him, knocked some common sense

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Speaker 2: into him. But who knew that John Fetterman was going

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Speaker 2: to be the ultimate Democrat voice of reason out there,

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Speaker 2: especially and like you know, so before we get to him,

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Speaker 2: you know, especially in light of such luminaries like Rocanna

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Speaker 2: and Mark Warner. Here is let's start here. Rokanna was

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Speaker 2: asked to respond to something that John Kirby had to say.

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Speaker 2: John Kirby is a Republican national security defense spokesman. Let's

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Speaker 2: hear cut number ten.

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Speaker 11: Now, we're in this war now, and Biden's National Security

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Speaker 11: Council spokesman was among the voices saying that Americans in

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Speaker 11: this moment need to just unite behind the military.

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Speaker 2: Here's what he said.

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Speaker 17: The military has been very consistent Secretary Higgsith, the General Kane,

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Speaker 17: Secretary of Rubio, been very consistent about the limited objectives

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Speaker 17: that they're going after.

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Speaker 2: And now we're in it, and.

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Speaker 17: Now I think it's really important that the nation unite

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Speaker 17: behind the military and make sure that the military has

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Speaker 17: the tools, the equipment, the weapons they need to accomplish

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Speaker 17: these limited objectives and degrade iron military.

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Speaker 11: So when funding comes with for you, you know, in

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Speaker 11: the form of a vote, how are you going to

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Speaker 11: vote on funding?

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Speaker 5: Well, absolutely not. Look, Kirby is part of the architect

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Speaker 5: that got us into the disaster in Gaza. I don't

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Speaker 5: understand how they's allavable on TV. We've had a foreign

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Speaker 5: policy blob that got us into the war in Iraq,

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Speaker 5: that got us into Afghanistan for twenty years. They created

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Speaker 5: the disaster that happened in Gaza that now his chair

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Speaker 5: led us into Iran. President Trump ran against this entire

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Speaker 5: foreign policy blob. He said he was going to put

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Speaker 5: America first. He said he was going to fund manufacturing here.

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Speaker 5: He said he was going to fund our communities. Instead,

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Speaker 5: we're spending two billion dollars a day on getting into

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Speaker 5: another war in the Middle East. We've had thirteen Americans died.

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Speaker 6: I'm tired of this.

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Speaker 5: So are a lot of people in the MAGA base

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Speaker 5: and progressives.

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Speaker 2: We need a new time, right, you can stop it there,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm tired of this. I wasn't tired of

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Speaker 2: it when, you know, when Biden got us out of

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Speaker 2: Afghanistan and me and Americans were killed. But I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm damn sure tired of it now. You know, well,

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Speaker 2: we're essentially engaging in an air war. And yeah, yes,

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Speaker 2: obviously we hallow those who made the ultimate sacrifice for

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Speaker 2: their nation one hundred percent. But but this, believe me,

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Speaker 2: this is this is nothing u You know, as we

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Speaker 2: engage in sort of the total air dominance and see

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Speaker 2: dominance around Iran, you know, eventually sometimes you gotta, you gotta,

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Speaker 2: you gotta, you know, take action and do these things.

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Speaker 2: And I think, I hope, I believe it's going to

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Speaker 2: pay off in the end. I mean, I want you

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Speaker 2: to think about this for a second. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: Fetterman in a second. I want to think about this

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Speaker 2: for a moment because they said it couldn't be done right.

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Speaker 2: You know, first you have last year's action in Iran,

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Speaker 2: uh and and folks were predicting massive amounts of global

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Speaker 2: chaos in the wake of that. Now, yeah, we had

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Speaker 2: to come back and finish the job. We thought maybe

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Speaker 2: there would be one message sent, but it certainly wasn't

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Speaker 2: the level of disaster that the president's president's detractors, the

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Speaker 2: president's critics were saying it was going to be. You

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Speaker 2: have the action in Venezuela, and yeah, you know something

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Speaker 2: I don't like, uniltter realaction. But on the other hand,

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Speaker 2: we frankly cave Maduro a lot more due process than

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Speaker 2: perhaps he might otherwise have been accorded. And again, the

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Speaker 2: chaos that was supposed to ensue after that hasn't happened. Here,

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Speaker 2: we have what's happening in Iran, right, and again the

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Speaker 2: sort of the wide prediction of major vincent Yeah, we've

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Speaker 2: had some minor lone wolf attacks here in the United States.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a little bit about this attack on

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Speaker 2: the synagogue in Michigan and whether or not this guy's

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Speaker 2: brother was a HESBA Lack commander. But at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, as you roll these things up, right,

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Speaker 2: there's a reverse domino effect that is at work here.

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Speaker 2: These actions have reactions elsewhere. And yet if you go

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Speaker 2: through it with sort of a half measure. Yes, it

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Speaker 2: can come back and bite you. Yeah, obviously there's a

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Speaker 2: chance of that here, But there's also a very likely chance,

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Speaker 2: and we're seeing it. This is the point that I

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Speaker 2: raised with nan Ayworth that if you essentially make oil

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Speaker 2: more expensive and you send a threat to China and

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Speaker 2: they no longer have access to cheap petroleum to make

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Speaker 2: all of their cheap plastic products, China reacts, right, they

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Speaker 2: stop their overflights over Taiwan. Maybe they say, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe, just maybe we need to think twice

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Speaker 2: about what we are doing here. You know, when you

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Speaker 2: you reduce to ashes, Russia's main supplier of drones, and

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Speaker 2: in fact, you turn around and you take the folks

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Speaker 2: who have been working diligently to use inexpensive technology to

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Speaker 2: defeat those drones, you deploy them on the battlefield in Iran.

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Speaker 2: It sends a message to Russia at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day. And so if at the end of the

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Speaker 2: day China and Russia are isolated and they have to

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Speaker 2: seriously rethink their place in the world order, that is

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Speaker 2: a massive benefit. Now do I think that it means

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Speaker 2: that it will translate into an electoral victory for Republicans. No,

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Speaker 2: I don't, because I don't think that story will ever

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Speaker 2: get told in the same way that I think the

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Speaker 2: busham inistation never really told the story about the way

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Speaker 2: that Iran could be contained by having American forces in

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Speaker 2: Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Speaker 16: And so.

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Speaker 2: If you no longer have supplier of drones to Russia

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Speaker 2: off the table, the number one sponsor of state sponsored

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Speaker 2: terrorism on the table, that has huge benefits globally, that

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Speaker 2: can pay off in spades. So you know, I discount

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Speaker 2: what the Rocannas are saying, what the Pete bootage edges

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Speaker 2: are saying. Do I think what's being done is perfect? No,

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Speaker 2: but I never think any of these things is perfect,

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Speaker 2: you know. On that same talk, before we go to

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Speaker 2: some spots here, let's hear what Margaret Bennon had to say.

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Speaker 2: So Mark Warner, who should know better, He's been in

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Speaker 2: the Senate long enough, he should know better than to

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Speaker 2: engage in foolishness. But nevertheless, he says something stupid on

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Speaker 2: face the nation, and Margaret Brennan actually calls him out

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Speaker 2: on it. Let's pick at.

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Speaker 18: Number thirteen on the facts the Senate failed to advance

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Speaker 18: at Homeland security funding for the fourth time. Yesterday, we

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Speaker 18: have airline CEO's fault in Congress for not paying TSA agents.

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Speaker 18: I've got video TSA workers on food lines because they

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Speaker 18: just missed their second paycheck, half paycheck last time, full

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Speaker 18: paycheck this Friday.

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Speaker 15: Why can't your leaders break this dead law?

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Speaker 7: Margret Man, I think we should, and what we have

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Speaker 7: offered is let's pay TSA, Let's pay FEMA, Let's pay

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Speaker 7: the National Guard. I'm sorry to the Coast Guard, let's

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Speaker 7: pay I'd even say let's pay Customs and Border Patrol.

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Speaker 7: If we can't agree on ICE reforms, let's pay everybody else.

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Speaker 6: Got it?

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Speaker 2: So you want to you want to essentially shut down

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Speaker 2: the immigration part of it, and you're willing to hold

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Speaker 2: everybody else hostage over your petty complaints about getting one.

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Speaker 2: By the way, you know something, you know when we

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Speaker 2: actually I'm going to get into this, well, we'll talk

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Speaker 2: about Fetterman later on when we come back. We're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about, uh, We're going to talk about what's

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Speaker 2: going on with immigration and why just why maybe we

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Speaker 2: need to be doing exactly what we're doing, and how

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Speaker 2: the mark Warners of the world are making life more dangerous.

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Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Langer. This is Tony Katz today, so before

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Speaker 2: we get to the denaturalization stuff and Eric Schmidt, I

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Speaker 2: got this and I apologize Christina. Christina Llewellen sent this

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Speaker 2: in on X. I should have I should have looked

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Speaker 2: at this earlier. Christina writes, Hi, Andrew Langer, please speak

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Speaker 2: about the potus post from last week about your friend

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Speaker 2: Steve Moore on today's Tony Cats show. Thanks and what

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Speaker 2: it is. What it is is a tweet from Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump potus from an unleashed prosperity study that Steve Moore

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Speaker 2: put out there. A new unleashed prosperity study four A

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Speaker 2: one K balance under Trump saw an inflation adjusted gain

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Speaker 2: of twenty seven hundred dollars fifteen point one percent for

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Speaker 2: American workers. By contrast, during the four years of the

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Speaker 2: Biden administration, the average four to one case saw a

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Speaker 2: crushing twenty four hundred percent real loss. Aggregate forour A

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Speaker 2: one K balances top trend trillion dollars for the first

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Speaker 2: time in history, signaling a broad based recovery from the

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Speaker 2: Biden slump. Six out of ten Americans have IRA or

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Speaker 2: four A one k accounts, and I appreciate this, Christina,

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Speaker 2: and I need to ping Steve and Phil Kurpin over

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Speaker 2: at unleash about this. You know, we all do different

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Speaker 2: things in this world. I swear to God, I didn't

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Speaker 2: see this up for Christine. I so appreciate you sending

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Speaker 2: this over. I need to put this this study up.

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Speaker 2: So we all do different things different We're all different

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Speaker 2: tools in the toolbox, as I like to say. And

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Speaker 2: Steve knows that I do deal with the regulatory side

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Speaker 2: of things, the cost of regulations on the American economy.

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Speaker 2: And I look at this. You'll all know the adage

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Speaker 2: when you're a hammer, everything looks like an ail. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure Steve has his views as to what's going on,

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Speaker 2: but so it's Trump one and Trump to I see this.

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Speaker 2: So you know, Steve is probably looking at tax policy

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Speaker 2: and some of the other policies that are out there.

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Speaker 2: I look at regulatory policy. So I know, for instance,

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Speaker 2: that the cost of regulation grew by about fifteen percent annually.

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Speaker 2: The cost of regulations in America essentially doubled, almost doubled.

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Speaker 2: I went up about one point eight trillion dollars from

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Speaker 2: two and a quarter trillion to just under four trillion

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Speaker 2: dollars in the four years of Joe Biden's fastest increase

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Speaker 2: in federal regulatory costs in history. What we do know

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Speaker 2: is looking at the numbers, that regulatory costs dropped by

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Speaker 2: five percent under the first year of the Trump administration. Now,

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Speaker 2: it's funny because I was able in a report that

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Speaker 2: I did in economic analysis I did in January of

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five Trump Economic Agenda numbers how this

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Speaker 2: tracks how the regulatory cost issue tracked with inflation. It's

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Speaker 2: kind of wild that there's a correspondence there. And yes,

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Speaker 2: I know correlation does not equal causation, but I'm going

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Speaker 2: to say that part of the reason why inflation spiked

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Speaker 2: so highly is because the cost of red tape, the

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Speaker 2: cost of regulations, dramatically shot up. And you might say, Andrew, oh,

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Speaker 2: it was only the only loss of five percent over

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty over the course of twenty twenty five. Let

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Speaker 2: me let me explain that this is unprecedented in the

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Speaker 2: modern era of regulation, and by which I go back

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Speaker 2: to nineteen seventy one, right, the Nixon administration and the

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Speaker 2: birth of the modern the truly modern regulatory state, the

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Speaker 2: birth of the EPA, the Occupational Safety and Health Act,

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Speaker 2: the Endangered Species Act, blah blah blah, all of these laws.

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Speaker 2: You know, we've had a steady increase in regulatory costs,

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Speaker 2: and I talk about what I call the regulatory glidepath.

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Speaker 2: What happens if you simply keep regulatory costs constant and

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Speaker 2: you don't add, say, six hundred billion dollars a year

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Speaker 2: in regulatory costs, which is what we were getting to

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Speaker 2: under under Joe Biden, right, had Kamala Harris become president,

857
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Speaker 2: that's what we would have seen if you cut two

858
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Speaker 2: hundred billion dollars and you also don't add you don't

859
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Speaker 2: add six hundred billion. Never do math on the air.

860
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Speaker 2: By the way, I know I'm throwing numbers at you,

861
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Speaker 2: but that's an eight hundred billion dollar game to the economy,

862
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Speaker 2: indirect regulatory costs, and then depending on who you talk to,

863
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Speaker 2: it's an opportunity cost issue. Let me explain what that means.

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Speaker 2: If you're a small business owner, and I know there

865
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Speaker 2: are a bunch shut out there. If you're a small

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Speaker 2: business owner, you know that when a regulation, when a rule,

867
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Speaker 2: when a government decision forces you to make a choice

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Speaker 2: in how your business spends its money. Yes, it's money

869
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Speaker 2: out the door, but it's money you can't use to

870
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Speaker 2: invest in your own business. You can't use it to

871
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Speaker 2: invest in new people, you can't use it to invest

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Speaker 2: in more productive equipment. So let's say you own a

873
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Speaker 2: pizzeria and a Biden era clean air rule forces you

874
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Speaker 2: to spend twenty thousand dollars on a new electric pizza

875
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Speaker 2: because you can't use cold and you can't use natural gas.

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Speaker 2: That's twenty thousand dollars. Now, I don't know if that's

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Speaker 2: the cost of a moment. I think it's probably. I'm

878
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Speaker 2: probably it's probably more. That's money that you can't use

879
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Speaker 2: to invest in some way to make your business truly

880
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Speaker 2: more productive. Lost opportunity cost. You know, every time you

881
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Speaker 2: every time the government mandates that your employees spend their

882
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Speaker 2: time doing paperwork or some kind of mandatory training, that's

883
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Speaker 2: time they can't spend in the productive work of your business.

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Speaker 2: So I think that there's a huge component here of

885
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Speaker 2: the regulatory cost, Christina, and I hope that answers your question,

886
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Speaker 2: but clearly I need to reach out to Steve about this.

887
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Speaker 2: I'll tell a story sort of when I knew I'm dumb.

888
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Speaker 2: I'm dumb. I swear to God, guys, I'm dumb about

889
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Speaker 2: these things.

890
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Speaker 3: You know.

891
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Speaker 2: All I want at a life is I want my

892
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Speaker 2: work to be appreciated by my colleagues. I know. That's

893
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Speaker 2: very strange. Maybe it's maybe it's not so strange. I

894
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Speaker 2: don't know's I'll say it's a debate that I get

895
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Speaker 2: into with some of some of my colleagues right now

896
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Speaker 2: about how how one's work ought to be measured. I

897
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Speaker 2: want my work to be appreciated and respected by my colleagues,

898
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Speaker 2: and so, you know, when you when you're you're talking

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Speaker 2: about something. You know, one of the times I interviewed

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Speaker 2: Steve on the radio because I do policy work, As

901
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Speaker 2: I said, I do this regulatory policy work outside of

902
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Speaker 2: outside of the work that I'm doing here, and I

903
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Speaker 2: was talking to Steve about regulatory costs and Steve said,

904
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Speaker 2: somebody the effectivele you would know more about that than

905
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Speaker 2: I would. And I, like, I like grew like five

906
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Speaker 2: inches sitting in my chair. You know, I sat up

907
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Speaker 2: straighter because it's like, oh my god, Steve Moore respects

908
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Speaker 2: the work that I'm doing. And he was probably just

909
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Speaker 2: being polite, I don't know, but Nevertheless, I'm a mook

910
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Speaker 2: that way in terms of these things, these things that

911
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Speaker 2: wind up being very important to me. By the way, Chris,

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Speaker 2: I'll let you know. There's a little arrow on the

913
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Speaker 2: chart that you sent. I'll retweet this in a second.

914
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Speaker 2: And I thought it was a little smudge on my

915
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Speaker 2: computer screen, and I actually just tried to wipe it off.

916
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Speaker 2: That shows you what kind of a mook I am

917
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Speaker 2: in all of this. So, yeah, you know, you get this,

918
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Speaker 2: somebody else I'll have on they'll say these things. I

919
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Speaker 2: you know, I appreciate that.

920
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Speaker 3: You know.

921
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Speaker 2: Eric Schmidt has introduced a bill he wants to make

922
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Speaker 2: denaturalization easier. Let's hear what he had to say this morning.

923
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Speaker 2: We can do this real quick. Let's play cut number nineteen.

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Speaker 19: People are there are tens of thousands of murderers, hundreds

925
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Speaker 19: of thousands of violand criminals that are in our communities

926
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Speaker 19: because of Democrat policies, and so we need to make

927
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Speaker 19: sure DHS is funded. The deportations need to continue. We

928
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Speaker 19: also need to expand the category DANA of people who

929
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Speaker 19: can be denaturalized and sent home. Who are you know,

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Speaker 19: reforming the legal immigration system because okay.

931
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Speaker 2: We can stop it there and you know something, there

932
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Speaker 2: was a time and I know my staunch libertarian friends

933
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Speaker 2: are going to be very unhappy about this. But when

934
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Speaker 2: you get a guy who is a naturalized citizen who

935
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Speaker 2: goes to prison for aiding and a betting isle and

936
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Speaker 2: he's not immediately deported either while he's in prison or

937
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Speaker 2: as soon as he gets out. When that person then

938
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Speaker 2: comes back, you know, sometime later, and guns down people

939
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Speaker 2: on a college campus in the United States, guess what

940
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Speaker 2: DA for Norfolk, Virginia. It's not gun loving Republicans' fault

941
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Speaker 2: that this happens. It's DA's like you, it's policies of

942
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Speaker 2: the Biden administration. And I want to add to this,

943
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Speaker 2: this about made me blow my stack. There's a TikToker

944
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Speaker 2: named Ethan Levins who had the unmitigated goal to go

945
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Speaker 2: on TikTok and put this video out there. Let's play

946
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Speaker 2: cut number twenty one. Good message for the Iranian government.

947
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Speaker 3: If you want to take out Israel's entire nuclear capability,

948
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Speaker 3: you need to strike right here and right here.

949
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Speaker 19: This is the surrect nuclear masiling run here and this

950
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Speaker 19: is the Polymachin Airfield.

951
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Speaker 2: This airbase houses Israel's only fire jet nuclear We can

952
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Speaker 2: end it there. You know something to port him, you

953
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Speaker 2: know something, Send him to Israel for prosecution. I know

954
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Speaker 2: he's not an Israeli citizen, and technically it's not treason

955
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Speaker 2: against the United States. But yet, you know something. Drop

956
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Speaker 2: him in Gaza. How about this? Drop him in Gaza,

957
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Speaker 2: drop him in Lebanon, drop him in Syria, and see

958
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Speaker 2: how he fares there. You know, it was called a

959
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Speaker 2: summer camp trip. You get to do a fact finding mission.

960
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Speaker 2: You want to find out how great it is to

961
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Speaker 2: help out the Iranian people. Fine, send him to Baghdad.

962
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Speaker 2: See how long he fairs there? Good Lord? And yeah,

963
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Speaker 2: the other the other video, and we could play this

964
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Speaker 2: later that the brother of the Michigan synagogue attacker was

965
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Speaker 2: apparently a hes black commander. YEP, denaturalize, get rid of him.

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Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Langer. Here is Tony kats today. We are back.

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Speaker 2: I am Andrew Langer in for Tony Katz today, joining

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Speaker 2: us right now, very excited to bring him on. His

969
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Speaker 2: name is Brent Sadler. He's a senior Research fellow in

970
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Speaker 2: Naval Warfare and Advanced Technology at the Allison Center for

971
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Speaker 2: National Security at the Heritage Foundation. I heard him give

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Speaker 2: a presentation last week and was just so impressed by

973
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Speaker 2: it I had to have him on the show. Brent.

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Speaker 2: He's got He's had a story career in the Navy.

975
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Speaker 2: He's an author. He does work with the US Naval Institute.

976
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Speaker 2: I am a I am an avid reader of proceedings, Brent,

977
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Speaker 2: so glad you can join us here. Let's talk about

978
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Speaker 2: what's going on on the seas, this fight over the

979
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Speaker 2: Straits of Horn Mouz. Is it being mined? How can

980
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Speaker 2: it be? D mind? Can it be? D mind?

981
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Speaker 13: What?

982
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Speaker 2: What's what's happening on the on the open water?

983
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Speaker 20: Yeah, thanks for having me on your show.

984
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Speaker 21: There's a lot of back to the future that's going on,

985
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Speaker 21: and the passage kind of repeating itself is the Gulf

986
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Speaker 21: War One, when allies like Japan were asked to send

987
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Speaker 21: mind sweepers, pretty much as the war was pretty much over,

988
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Speaker 21: but the still was a concern about floating minds. Now

989
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Speaker 21: we've got cruise missiles and everything else.

990
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Speaker 5: So.

991
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Speaker 21: Are the straights mind I think it's a safe bet

992
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Speaker 21: to assume there's a few of them out there, and

993
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Speaker 21: until we prove otherwise, to act accordingly.

994
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Speaker 20: And of course the Iranians.

995
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Speaker 21: Despite taking quite a punishing blow, they still have the

996
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Speaker 21: ability to put drones and launch missiles from small boats

997
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Speaker 21: are from the coast, So it's a threat. It's a

998
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Speaker 21: very much lowered threat. It's not really physically closing the straits,

999
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Speaker 21: but it is a cost and it is a risk.

1000
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Speaker 21: It's got to be born.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the other thing. I think it would be

1002
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Speaker 2: helpful for folks to understand that because it's you know

1003
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Speaker 2: there Comparative risk assessment is something that I deal with,

1004
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: you know, as a regulatory policy tool. How do we

1005
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Speaker 2: weigh costs and benefits? How do we compare risks across

1006
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Speaker 2: decision making. There's a lot going on here, isn't there?

1007
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Speaker 2: And the possibility of one mind, when you're talking about

1008
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Speaker 2: these massive ships that can't turn and then stop on

1009
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Speaker 2: a dime. This is something to understand in terms of,

1010
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Speaker 2: you know, not just the decisions that the companies make,

1011
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 2: but they're insurance companies. That's a huge part of this, isn't.

1012
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 21: It absolutely a P and I insurance specifically for shipping

1013
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Speaker 21: in these war designated war or combat zones. And there's

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Speaker 21: about eight or so of these insurance firms, all located

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Speaker 21: in London that are making the assessment for what the

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Speaker 21: cost risk would be for the insurance, and that cost

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Speaker 21: has been going up from four to twelve times the

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Speaker 21: normal fee and it's usually about zero point two five

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Speaker 21: percentage points the value of the ship.

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Speaker 20: And these ships are about three hundred million dollars, so

1021
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Speaker 20: you can do the math. It's not cheap.

1022
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Speaker 21: And that's just for seven days steaming in, gassing up,

1023
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Speaker 21: and then heading out of the Persian Gulf. And so

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Speaker 21: one of the things that the White House is trying

1025
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Speaker 21: to do is to mitigate that excess cost at least

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Speaker 21: for that period of time the ship's going through there. Now,

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Speaker 21: who they're going to offer this to is a big question.

1028
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Speaker 21: How it's can they get financed because the way the

1029
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Speaker 21: shipping firms and they have like insurance clubs that are

1030
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Speaker 21: actually out there that kind of take.

1031
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Speaker 20: The burden for a group of ships together.

1032
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Speaker 21: Those details need to get worked out pretty soon. But

1033
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Speaker 21: it's really the money and the insurers that are really

1034
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Speaker 21: driving the shipping capacity or volume to go down. It's

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Speaker 21: not the Iranian missiles and bombs, So that's triggered the

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Speaker 21: insurance spike.

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Speaker 2: Sure, let me ask you this. We're talking with Brent Sadler.

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Speaker 2: He's a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation. I

1039
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Speaker 2: said this in my in my initial email introducing myself

1040
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Speaker 2: to you. One of the most important books that I

1041
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Speaker 2: ever read was The Influence of Seapower upon History by Mahan,

1042
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Speaker 2: you know, followed by de Severski's Air Power. I want

1043
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Speaker 2: to say, the airpower of key to survival. I mean,

1044
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Speaker 2: these things are playing out. Folks discount the importance of

1045
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Speaker 2: naval power, especially projecting power over the horizon. Talk about

1046
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Speaker 2: how that's all playing out here right now, Why we're

1047
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Speaker 2: why we're seeing this here.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, So an important change in American state craft. Actually

1049
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Speaker 21: it's global, but it's really most pronounced. You can see

1050
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Speaker 21: the way that we do or execute state craft has changed.

1051
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Speaker 21: Something I call naval staatecraft and written a lot about.

1052
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Speaker 21: But what you're seeing is the merging of diplomacy with military,

1053
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Speaker 21: mostly naval, but not only naval presence that can be

1054
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Speaker 21: dialed up and adjusted and moved around as necessary. With

1055
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Speaker 21: economic statecraft. Some of it would be considering the tariffs.

1056
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Speaker 21: The other is what's happening right now with trying to.

1057
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Speaker 20: Reduce the cost on the shippers of the insurance fees.

1058
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Speaker 21: All of this is coming together in a new form

1059
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Speaker 21: of American state craft, call it naval staycraft.

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Speaker 2: And how does this play into You know, China has

1061
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Speaker 2: long recognized US, and I know you are a China experts.

1062
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Speaker 2: You know the China's you know, various economic initiatives around

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Speaker 2: the world. You know, I've got a buddy, George Lander

1064
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Speaker 2: at the Frontiers of Freedom who has this great map

1065
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Speaker 2: showing how the Chinese have invested in ports that are

1066
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Speaker 2: essentially at natural choke points on the open seas. Talk

1067
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Speaker 2: about how this pushes back against what China has been

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Speaker 2: doing for so long, a lot of it unchallenged by

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Speaker 2: the United States.

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Speaker 21: Well, in many ways, it's kind of playing the script

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Speaker 21: back on the Chinese Communist Party that they actually took

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Speaker 21: from mahan it's actually Mahanan in modern times.

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Speaker 20: But again the Chinese is the way they execute that.

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Speaker 21: They're limited because they have a state controlled economy, They're

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Speaker 21: ideologically bound by certain ways. They don't have a network

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Speaker 21: of friends and partners many of ours are business partners as.

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Speaker 20: Well as strategic partners and allies. They don't have that

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Speaker 20: and they have no interest in it. So it gives

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Speaker 20: them a very different approach.

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Speaker 21: It also gives us a lot of advantages against them

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Speaker 21: in using a naval or maritime kind of state craft approach.

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Speaker 20: Choke points matter, ports matter, and of course.

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Speaker 21: Most importantly, ships matter in maintaining a global economy and

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Speaker 21: one that really makes us have the quality.

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Speaker 20: Of life that we've enjoyed for decades here in the

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Speaker 20: United States.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about this before I let you go.

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Speaker 2: So Venezuela, Iran, we're now seeing the impact on China

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Speaker 2: and China changing it's behavior visa VI Taiwan. Let's assume

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Speaker 2: that something happens in Cuba. How does this all play

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Speaker 2: out in terms of mitigating the threats caused by Russia

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Speaker 2: and China globally? They have to wake up and right

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Speaker 2: and recognize that there's that they have to get with

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Speaker 2: the New World word. There's a point that I made

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Speaker 2: in the first hour of the show. Your thoughts here, Yeah, So.

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Speaker 21: There's not a lot of time that it's very much

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Speaker 21: the point. All of these things are connected. So success

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Speaker 21: with Iran and Venezuela is pressure on moscown not for

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Speaker 21: the obvious reasons but also the economic and the geopolitical.

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Speaker 21: But the real target of all of this, and let's

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Speaker 21: assume Cuba also decides to have a new deal with

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Speaker 21: the United State.

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Speaker 20: It's a new relationship. All of this really hurts Beijing.

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Speaker 21: It takes options away from Beijing, it takes its economic assurances.

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Speaker 21: You know, they were relying on a fairly sizable portion

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Speaker 21: of their energy I think is over twenty five percent

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Speaker 21: coming from Iran.

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Speaker 20: Now that's a question.

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Speaker 21: So they're finding themselves on the back foot and we

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Speaker 21: haven't even really sat down to have really serious negotiations

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Speaker 21: with them yet. Even so, they're all connected. It is

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Speaker 21: part of a great new game or a new Cold

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Speaker 21: war that we're in with the Chinese Communist Party.

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Speaker 2: So what Pete Budajeg says that it's amateur hour over

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Speaker 2: at the Pentagon. Your thoughts on this.

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Speaker 21: He's not someone who should be casting as versions like

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Speaker 21: that in his performance and Secretary of Transportation it's anything but.

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Speaker 20: And the track record has been very successful. I mean,

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Speaker 20: you know, you have to have there's a degree of

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Speaker 20: luck in life, and it's been lucky.

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Speaker 2: But there is a lot of I.

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Speaker 21: Think, very clear eyed realism. I think the administration would

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Speaker 21: call it pragmatic realism. That's definitely. I think it's refreshing

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Speaker 21: for many of folks like me to see unfold. But

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Speaker 21: it's also the way the world works, and it's what

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Speaker 21: people in the world understand. They don't understand flowery language.

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Speaker 21: They under much more simple kind of discussions and also

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Speaker 21: understanding in terms real terms like military might and economic might.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a real fetishization of talking amongst the sort

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Speaker 2: of the leftist diplomatic. I'm going to say intelligency. I

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Speaker 2: don't really mean that as a as a positive thing, Brent.

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Speaker 2: How do folks find out more about the good worker

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Speaker 2: you're doing in Heritage and the good work you're doing

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Speaker 2: Naval Institute, et cetera.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 21: So probably the easiest thing to do to find most

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Speaker 21: of my official products and things that I write about

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Speaker 21: is go to Heritage dot org and just get a

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Speaker 21: list of experts and click on Brent Sadler. The other

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Speaker 21: place that you can easily find me is over on

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Speaker 21: LinkedIn at Brent D. Sadler or even on x at

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Speaker 21: Brent de Sadlin.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to send you a connection request

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Speaker 2: on LinkedIn brand. Thank you so very much for joining

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Speaker 2: us today. Absolutely have a good day you too, Brent. Sadler.

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Speaker 2: He's a Senior Research Fellow Naval Warfare and Advanced Technology

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Speaker 2: at the Allison Center for National Security. He's also a

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Speaker 2: fellow at the US Naval Institute. He's an author. Just

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Speaker 2: before I go, I'll just share this. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: I may have mentioned. I have an international relations degree,

1151
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 2: Russian studies, Soviet studies, and did a bit with strategic geography.

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Speaker 2: Wrote a bit about this many many many years ago.

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Speaker 2: And when I came out of college, before I took

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Speaker 2: a very different turn professionally, you know, I was still

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Speaker 2: I am a huge fan of the Naval Institute, and

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Speaker 2: I came upon this their magazine proceedings because I was

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Speaker 2: if you're a Tom Clancy fan, if you're someone who's

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Speaker 2: sitting out there and you used to read the Tom

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Speaker 2: Clancy novels while Tom Clancy was still alive, and not

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Speaker 2: just the Jack Ryan ones, but Red Storm Rising. You know,

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Speaker 2: Red Storm Rising was written with Larry Bond. It was

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Speaker 2: actually written as a tabletop gaming exercise, and the two

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Speaker 2: of them had met because they were involved with the

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Speaker 2: Naval Institute, which is obviously a think tank that is

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Speaker 2: connected with the Naval Academy. And you know, when I

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Speaker 2: read this, I'm like, what's this magazine proceedings? And I

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Speaker 2: started reading. Anyway, It's all fun, fun, It's fascinating stuff

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Speaker 2: to me. Hope you enjoyed it as well. Listen more

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Speaker 2: to come on the show. I am Andrew Langer in

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Speaker 2: for Tony Katz Today. This is Tony Katz Today. Talk

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Speaker 2: a little bit about Saint Patrick's day. In a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I got some music that I put together on Souno.

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01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 2: Having a lot of fun with that. I know people

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Speaker 2: are very nervous about AI.

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Speaker 6: Listen.

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Speaker 2: It's not perfect. It's not going to replace real, live,

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Speaker 2: flesh and blood music anytime soon. But you know you

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Speaker 2: need something, and you're someone who's merely a fan like

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Speaker 2: I am, you can have some fun with it anyway.

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Speaker 2: You know, as we're talking about this, we're talking about

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Speaker 2: what's going on in a run and the coverage of it.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be joined in the next hour by

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Speaker 2: Tim Graham from the Media Research Center. But I want

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Speaker 2: to go back to John Fetterman, the voice of reason,

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Speaker 2: the voice of common sense, which is crazy. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's a part of me that it's like, would it

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Speaker 2: be better if John Fetterman came out and declared that

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Speaker 2: he was a Republican, and Republicans get the benefit of

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Speaker 2: having having that seat in the Senate for purposes of majority, minority,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. Or is it better to have a Democrat

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Speaker 2: who says the right things and does the right things,

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Speaker 2: not all the time, but a lot of the time.

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Speaker 2: I'm right now inclined to keep him where he is

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Speaker 2: because you never know, but you know he is. He

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Speaker 2: is someone who is who was not shy from expressing

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Speaker 2: his opinion, and I think that's refreshing.

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Speaker 15: You know.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's seeah, We'll start with cut number fourteen. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: we know that there's this new allegedly a new Ayahtola.

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Speaker 2: We haven't seen him. We've seen statements from him, we

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Speaker 2: haven't actually seen him. We cannot verify that he is

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Speaker 2: amongst the corporeal. John Fetterman has not This has not

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Speaker 2: gone without notice of John Fetterman. Let's play at number fourteen.

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Speaker 22: There any of my colleagues to vote against providing our

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Speaker 22: military the kinds of necessary munitions, the things that they need.

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Speaker 3: And I largely agree with what the President said that

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Speaker 3: Iran has.

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Speaker 22: Essentially been defeated, and why don't the Western media is

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Speaker 22: just demand that Iran.

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Speaker 2: Provide proof of life of the Ayatola, because I.

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Speaker 22: Think the Iranians are doing kind of like a weekend

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Speaker 22: at Iatola's and not trying to pretend this guy is

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Speaker 22: functional or even alive at this point. And I think

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Speaker 22: we just call them out and realize that they're a

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Speaker 22: nation that's been effectively defeated and they don't have any leadership.

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Speaker 22: They're unwilling to even provide proof.

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Speaker 2: To refute that.

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Speaker 3: So overall, I think it's entirely appropriate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you, you know, I take a cue

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Speaker 2: from Greg Gottfeld. He said it best last week when

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Speaker 2: he said, the guy I feel badly for is the

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Speaker 2: Ayatola's driver. No, no, why why don't we not go

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Speaker 2: anywhere tonight. Let's let's not go down to the corner

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Speaker 2: coffee house and hang out. Let's let's just let's just

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Speaker 2: stay inside in a bunker, deep in a bunker.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: John Fetterman again talking a lot of common sense and rationality,

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Speaker 2: talking about this issue of the opening of the strait

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Speaker 2: of hormones. Let's play cut number fifteen.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, it's entirely appropriate to ask. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 22: if if the world wants oil and they want that,

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Speaker 22: then they it's entirely appropriate for.

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Speaker 2: Them to just help.

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Speaker 22: I mean, it's unsurprising that the Iranians would turn to

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Speaker 22: the Chinese. And it seems without a doubt that the

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Speaker 22: Chinese and the Russians are helping and conspire Iran to

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Speaker 22: kill Americans and Israelis.

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Speaker 2: As well too.

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Speaker 22: So hold them accountable and make them part of the solution,

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Speaker 22: because essentially, if Iran doesn't have any military capables left

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Speaker 22: other than just a random kind of a drone here,

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Speaker 22: or they're trying to produce chaos and have that get

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Speaker 22: amplified and platformed in like the New York Times and

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Speaker 22: whatever to make it seem that the world's on fire,

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Speaker 22: and that's just not there. And now every single Democrat

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Speaker 22: wanted this, we'd make sure that I Ran could never

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Speaker 22: acquire a nuclear bomb.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we got that. We got the video proof

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Speaker 2: of this. They're just upset that it's Donald Trump that

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Speaker 2: is that is taking care of this. Here's the reality, right,

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Speaker 2: because you'll see a lot of misinformation folks out there online,

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Speaker 2: a lot of folks trying to claim that there's a

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Speaker 2: big conspiracy that things are not going well or as

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Speaker 2: well as the United States is saying over in Iran. Now,

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Speaker 2: I have no way of knowing specifically what's happening on

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Speaker 2: the ground or in the sea. I don't I don't

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Speaker 2: claim to. I don't have some inside edge. But here's

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Speaker 2: what I do know. I do know that if things

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Speaker 2: were going truly as badly as some folks are claiming

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Speaker 2: that they are, than the MSNBC's I know, you can

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Speaker 2: call it m SNOW or ms NOW, whatever it is,

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Speaker 2: I still call it MSNBC. You know, they would be

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Speaker 2: spouting into the high heavens, right, Tucker Carlson would have

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Speaker 2: a video spouting it to the high heavens. A democracy Now.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, you know, Tucker, if you're agreeing

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Speaker 2: with Amy Goodman from Democracy Now on anything, that's less

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Speaker 2: of a sign that Amy Goodman has changed her position

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Speaker 2: and more about you. But setting all of that aside,

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Speaker 2: that's how we would know. We would know because these

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Speaker 2: outlets would be reporting these things breathlessly instead of having

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Speaker 2: to resort to mere tricks that are out there. Let

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Speaker 2: me talk about the economics real quick. I know we

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Speaker 2: got about thirty seconds here. Yes, we are knocking down third,

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Speaker 2: we were knocking down thirty thousand drones of a million

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Speaker 2: dollar missiles. But we are also using technology developed by

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Speaker 2: the Ukrainians that is one third the cost of these

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Speaker 2: drones to knock them down. We have a limit dominated

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Speaker 2: their airborne command and control and their seaborn command and control.

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Speaker 2: That's what's gonna win this, at least in the near

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Speaker 2: term anyway. Listen, Tim Graham Media Research Center. When we

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Speaker 2: come back, I'm Andrew Langer. This is Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 1: Line from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: Listen. You know you've launched as a parent when you

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Speaker 2: don't have to subsidize your kids. I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 2: always a good sign of this. And because of that,

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Speaker 2: when when my older one calls me because they're having

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Speaker 2: problems figuring out what to put on their taxes and

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Speaker 2: they're doing just the standard ten forty easy, I don't

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Speaker 2: mind having to sit on the phone and answering questions

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Speaker 2: about this and noodling this through. Why Because I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna have to pay any money and I'm not paying

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Speaker 2: any money for them anyway, everybody. I'm Andrew Langer in

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Speaker 2: for Tony Katz Today. On Tony Katz today got to

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Speaker 2: be joined in a little bit by by Tim Graham.

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Speaker 2: He is the editor of NewsBusters, the Media Research Center.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about what happens if you have

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Speaker 2: a war and it's not a successful war and it's

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Speaker 2: not being accurately reported that what that does to the

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Speaker 2: body politic in the meantime. By the way, you want

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Speaker 2: to join the conversation, you can message me on Facebook, Facebook,

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Speaker 2: dot Com, slash Andrew Langer Show. As I said X

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Speaker 2: at Andrew Underscore Langer on X I'd be like Christina

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Speaker 2: and send me a message there. By the way, I

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Speaker 2: put up my a summary of my regulatory economics research

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Speaker 2: from January on my X page at Andrew Underscore Langer. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, listen if you if you if you like

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Speaker 2: what you hear. I haven't done this yet on the

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Speaker 2: show today. I do policy work. I'm not really talking

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Speaker 2: about what I'm doing there. I mean, you can find

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Speaker 2: it on on on on Twitter right now. A lot

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Speaker 2: of reasons for that. But yeah, I do regulatory and

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Speaker 2: healthcare policy work. I do a lot of writing on

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Speaker 2: those things. You can figure out what I'm up to.

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Speaker 2: I also do a couple of podcasts. We all do

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Speaker 2: podcasts out there. I do a weekly deep dive into

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Speaker 2: public policy called the Lunch Hour for the Federal News Wire.

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Speaker 2: Every week every Monday, we release a new episode. This

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Speaker 2: week's episode is with Paul Teller, who's a longtime DC

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Speaker 2: policy hand. We're talking about Medicare and Medicaid and the

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Speaker 2: Center for Medicare and Medicaid innovations. We're talking about a

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Speaker 2: bunch of things. So go and check that out at

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Speaker 2: the Lunch Hour pod. Also, you can find it find

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Speaker 2: it there. Yeah, so all kinds of all kinds of

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Speaker 2: good stuff. You can figure out what I'm what I'm

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Speaker 2: up to these days. So I want to go here

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Speaker 2: because we don't have to talk to Tim. And as

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Speaker 2: I said the last hour, I like I like starting off.

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Speaker 2: I played this before. I want to play it again

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Speaker 2: in case you missed it. If you know, not all

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Speaker 2: the time. Here's the problem with SNL. Let me say this,

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Speaker 2: Lauren Michael says it best. SNL is always your your

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Speaker 2: favorite cast of SNL is always almost invariably from when

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Speaker 2: you were twelve years old, thirteen years old. It's certainly

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Speaker 2: true for me that that cast that one year with

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Speaker 2: Martin Short and Christopher Guest and Harry Sheer, et cetera,

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Speaker 2: et cetera, is probably my favorite year. You know, then

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Speaker 2: the first couple of years with Dennis Miller and Mike

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Speaker 2: Myers and Dana Carvey, et cetera. You know, but I

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Speaker 2: will tell you that there are some really interesting stuff

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Speaker 2: happening on SNL when when they stick to Lauren's adage

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Speaker 2: that you really have to recognize that that you shouldn't

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Speaker 2: play for New York in la and you need to

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Speaker 2: remember that there's a vast country in between, and you're

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Speaker 2: focusing on poking fun at yourself. When the guests are

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Speaker 2: poking fun at themselves, that's always a good thing. So

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Speaker 2: last week's episode with Ryan Gosling hosting his his opening

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Speaker 2: monologue with Harry Styles. If you don't know, Harry Styles

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Speaker 2: is a singer, very very popular amongst the young people.

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Speaker 2: Harry Styles is in the audience because he was hosting

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Speaker 2: the following week and it's very distracting to Ryan Gosling.

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Speaker 2: That's when the show is its best, when the when

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Speaker 2: the cast members are poking at each other, that's when

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Speaker 2: it's best. But you know, every once in a while,

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's stuff that's that's interesting. I will say

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Speaker 2: this cast member, I don't know who it is, it's

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Speaker 2: one of the one of the players.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: He is doing an impression of Tucker Carlson, and it's

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Speaker 2: pretty spot on. The secret, by the way to good

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Speaker 2: caricatures is you sees on something that essentially becomes the essence.

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Speaker 2: It's what Dana Carvey talks about when he talks about

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Speaker 2: how he does a an impression of somebody. He sees

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Speaker 2: on something very small and you pull it out, know,

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Speaker 2: you take it to add infinitum, to add absurditum. So

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Speaker 2: so here, this guy's gotten Tucker Carlson's ticks down. Let's

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Speaker 2: play cut number six.

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Speaker 9: Leftist woke America's favorite movie this year is about sinning.

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Speaker 9: Huh why does that not surprise me?

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Speaker 2: No, sorry, kids, we don't go to church anymore. We

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Speaker 2: go to sinners. That's the rule. That's the goal. Now,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not bad, that's not bad. I think he's

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Speaker 2: I think he's really got Tucker dialed dialed in there.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you when they're not doing it well,

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Speaker 2: I will say the guy who is doing the Trump impression,

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Speaker 2: I know we don't like Alec Baldwin as a movement.

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Speaker 2: We're not supposed to like Alec Baldwin. I think Alec

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Speaker 2: Baldwin's Trump was the best Trump. This guy, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a run of the mill Trump and

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Speaker 2: I think they're overusing him. But the cold open this

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Speaker 2: week on SNL was about gas prices. Let's go ahead

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Speaker 2: and play cut seven. Why does gus cost so much?

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Speaker 3: Fire? But possibly not?

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Speaker 2: It's called butterfly effect.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 10: Epstein was first Domino Epstein bing bing bug bung bing ban.

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Speaker 2: Bung bung bob war.

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Speaker 5: You might remember me from such campaign promises as lower

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Speaker 5: gas prices and no more wars.

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Speaker 2: We've loved to make promises, because a promise is just

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Speaker 2: a lie that hasn't happened yet. Anyway, what are we

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Speaker 2: talking about?

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Speaker 21: Oh, yes, gas prices which are very high because of

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Speaker 21: war with it.

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Speaker 2: It's a very war. And I'm sorry I cut it

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Speaker 2: off too early. And he then says, I which that

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Speaker 2: someone had told me that that Iran is where they

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Speaker 2: make the gas. You know, it has its moments, but

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Speaker 2: but but still, I think they're they're using him a

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Speaker 2: little much. In the Colin Jost Pete set as a drunk.

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Speaker 2: It's just a little it's a little a thread thread worn.

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Speaker 2: Now I will say they did a thing. I was

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Speaker 2: calling it Maha Hospital, but it's actually technically my hospital

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Speaker 2: m A H A S P I T A L

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Speaker 2: kind of like the pit. Only what happens if they

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Speaker 2: allow the RFKA company, you know something? Let me explain

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Speaker 2: something for a minute. I I am all in favor

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Speaker 2: of changing the way that the FDA and HHS do business.

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Speaker 2: There are some very serious problems with what has happened

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Speaker 2: in the past and what continues to happen, especially frankly

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Speaker 2: in the way that that we we we don't allow drugs.

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Speaker 2: It takes a long time to get drugs approved in America,

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Speaker 2: and some of it is very worthwhile. I just filed

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Speaker 2: some comments on this about how we might be able

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Speaker 2: to improve this. And I know this is big to

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Speaker 2: an Indianapolis audience given the level of pharmaceutical research that

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Speaker 2: happens here in India. So I'm speaking all to you.

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Speaker 2: The problem that I've been seeing, and one of my

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Speaker 2: deep and abiding concerns, is that we seem to have

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Speaker 2: traded at these highest levels of government their concerns and

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Speaker 2: anger about the pharmaceutical industrial complex, whether or not that

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Speaker 2: is misplaced. Set that aside for the supplement industrial complex

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Speaker 2: and sort of the some of it. This is the pseudoscience,

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Speaker 2: you know. I come to Indianapolis and I tour the

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Speaker 2: nov artist Radio Ligen Therapy facility manufacturing facility out at

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Speaker 2: out near the airport, and I'm blown away by what

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Speaker 2: they're doing and the importance of what they're doing. And

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Speaker 2: then to sort of turn around and have folks who

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Speaker 2: put I got a real problem with this anyway. So

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Speaker 2: I don't have a real problem with with the satire

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Speaker 2: being made of some of the shall we say, lack

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Speaker 2: of scientific approach to things. Here is here is SNL's

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Speaker 2: my hospital from the weekend. Let's play cut number eight

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Speaker 2: h Lady flaps for eighty birthday party to late breathing.

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Speaker 16: But pressures through the roof for people who love the

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Speaker 16: good site, like it stroke but can't stand it's phony

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Speaker 16: liberal science.

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Speaker 2: Socks going crazy. Chrisky was thrown back to me, not

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Speaker 2: do we have a definitive diagnosis from producer Robert F.

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Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior and the team who want to make America

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Speaker 2: healthy again.

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Speaker 4: What she means is a Steak, She's protein People, Jimmy

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Speaker 4: Beef Tallow and six Roy Extac.

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Speaker 1: It's my hostin from producers Julian Michaels and the Facebook

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Speaker 1: group Beach Moms Against Vaccine Teery.

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Speaker 2: The soft is Crashing, I Need sixty sec is a

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Speaker 2: bull team.

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Speaker 7: And now comes in show the High State's medical crucible

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Speaker 7: of Orange County, California.

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Speaker 2: Listen, let me, let me, let me explain something real quick,

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Speaker 2: just so that we all remember this and understand what's

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Speaker 2: going on here, because I'm deeply, deeply concerned, and I

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Speaker 2: get it righteous anger about people being lied to by

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Speaker 2: the left throughout the COVID pandemic, and there needs to

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Speaker 2: be accountability for that. But we can't let the pendulum

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Speaker 2: swing so far to the other side that we allow

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Speaker 2: leftists and progressives to wrap themselves in the cloak of

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Speaker 2: so called make America Healthy Again and try to pull

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Speaker 2: our public policy into a progressive agenda. And I'm seeing

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Speaker 2: this happening. There is an effort on the part of

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Speaker 2: some folks in this so called MAHA movement to try

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Speaker 2: to force, for instance, Lee Zelden, the administrator of the

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Speaker 2: Environmental Protection Agency, to resign. Leez Elden, who is doing

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Speaker 2: great work, who is doing work that is pro conservation,

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Speaker 2: but also shall we say, pro economics and being rational

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Speaker 2: and recognizing that when you have regulatory decisions, they have costs.

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Speaker 2: That when you want to remake, move to remake the

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Speaker 2: entire energy sector of the economy because of your perceptions

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Speaker 2: about climate policy, that's going to have an impact down

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Speaker 2: the road on American strength and competitiveness. And yet they

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Speaker 2: know folks are not recognizing this. That is hugely, hugely

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Speaker 2: disturbing to me. We have to be consistent, folks. We

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Speaker 2: have to be what we said was bad when Obama

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Speaker 2: did it, it continues to be bad. If we said

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Speaker 2: what was bad during Obama and the first Trump term

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Speaker 2: and then going into the Biden administration, if it was

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Speaker 2: bad through all of those times, then it's bad now

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Speaker 2: absent by the way, evidence to the contrary. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: I am concerned. I thought my hospital was pretty funny.

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Speaker 2: And listen, I'm someone who does tend to cook with

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Speaker 2: a lot of animal fats nowadays. Anyway, listen, when we

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Speaker 2: come back to talk more about economics, and we got

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Speaker 2: Tim Graham joining us, I'm Andrew Langer. This is Tony

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Speaker 2: Kats Today. So with that, yeah, let's kick off the

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Speaker 2: Saint Patrick's Day celebrations here on the Tony Kats Today show. Yeah, Tony,

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Speaker 2: Tony and I, neither of us really has much Irish blood,

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Speaker 2: but I do love Saint Patrick's Day. I always have.

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Speaker 2: I and I love Irish music forever in a day.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know why. I mean, it's just I

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Speaker 2: love it, and I love good Irish protest music. I

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Speaker 2: you know, communist sympathies aside, I have great affinity for

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Speaker 2: the IRA. I think, you know, anybody who is steeped

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Speaker 2: in American revolutionary war values has has should have an

1496
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 2: affinity for folks fighting against British tyranny. I will be

1497
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Speaker 2: celebrating Saint Patrick's Day tomorrow with some friends, at least

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Speaker 2: for a little bit. I will be kilted, and I

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Speaker 2: know that's not strictly traditionally Irish. I actually have a

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Speaker 2: Welsh tartan kilt that I like to wear. I'm not

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Speaker 2: Welsh either, but I do love whales. And then Saturday

1502
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 2: will be with my good buddy Jerry Rodgers, the editor

1503
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 2: of Real Clear Policy. You've heard him here on these

1504
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 2: airwaves before. Jerry and I are celebrating up in Yonkers,

1505
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 2: New York at their big McClain Avenue parade, and then

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01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 2: we'll be in the Bronx in the Woodlawn section of

1507
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 2: the Bronx. Very very excited about this. So yeah, so

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01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 2: I'm very excited for Saint Patrick's Day.

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Speaker 6: I love it.

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01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 2: Moving over to other stuff and talking more about what's

1511
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 2: going on with energy prices and the benefits they're in

1512
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 2: of taking action. Now. Yeah, listen, guys, I know it.

1513
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 2: I know that prices are up. In fact, we're going

1514
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 2: to jump down here Landon. Let's play cut twenty five.

1515
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 2: This is from yesterday. Here is Energy Secretary Chris Wright

1516
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 2: rightly explaining that energy prices are still lower than they

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01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 2: were at their highest point under Biden. Let's go ahead

1518
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 2: and play cut number twenty five.

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01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 16: We were very aware, very aware, and we would have

1520
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 16: short term disruption, we would cause some we would cause

1521
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 16: a little bit of increased prices on Americans. Prices today

1522
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 16: are still far below what they were in the Biden administration,

1523
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 16: where they were begging, bartering, and bribing Iran.

1524
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 3: To behave better.

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01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 16: We had five dollars gasoline in the middle of the

1526
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 16: Biden administration.

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01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and It's one of those things where we weren't

1528
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 2: getting anything out of Iran. Right, Iran was in the

1529
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 2: catbird seat. It reminds me when I think you all

1530
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 2: know this. I've probably said this before. I went to

1531
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 2: a very lefty high school up in New York, and

1532
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 2: every other year my high school sends a group of

1533
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 2: students down to SEAPAC, the big Seapac conference this year

1534
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 2: in Dallas, for many years in DC. And they, you

1535
01:26:55,880 --> 01:27:00,679
Speaker 2: know this, right after the Russian invasion of U Crane happened.

1536
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 2: They were down for it, and we're talking about the

1537
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 2: most important issues of the day, the existential threats. And

1538
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 2: I asked them about sort of making the choice between,

1539
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:14,679
Speaker 2: you know, bottoming out the Russian economy by overproducing oil

1540
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 2: or making sure that we don't produce oil in the

1541
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 2: United States in the name of solving climate change. And

1542
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 2: you could see some folks sort of understanding what I

1543
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 2: was getting at. And some folks agreed, ya, let's bottom

1544
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 2: out the Russian oil economy, and other folks like, no, no, no,

1545
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 2: the greatest existential threat is climate change. Therefore we should not,

1546
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:39,679
Speaker 2: regardless of anything else, we should not pump more oil

1547
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 2: here in the United States. You know, it's funny to

1548
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 2: me because so many of our price cost problems are

1549
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:55,560
Speaker 2: in some measure related to basic resource economics. It is

1550
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 2: quite literally the opposite of rocket science here it is.

1551
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 2: It is quite literally economic one one that if you

1552
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 2: have a high prices of a commodity in an era

1553
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 2: of high demand, then the only way to bring down

1554
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 2: that price is by increasing the supply. So, if it

1555
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 2: is gas prices, you produce more gas and produce more oil,

1556
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 2: and you fryd more oil into gasoline here at home. Right,

1557
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 2: you take away the chaotic nature of getting these things

1558
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 2: done overseas, and you ameliorate the impact here at home

1559
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 2: when there are shocks to the system healthcare, right, when

1560
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 2: you obfiscate the price, when you engage in these bizarre

1561
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 2: cost sharing mechanisms.

1562
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 6: What do I mean by this?

1563
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 2: You've probably heard me talk about this before. We do

1564
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 2: not have enough health care to go around. And that's

1565
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 2: not me making a value judgment. That's not me picking

1566
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 2: winners and losers in a marketplace. That's me simply saying

1567
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,719
Speaker 2: that we have a declining number of medical care providers,

1568
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 2: especially doctors, in America at a time when we decided

1569
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: as a nation to increase the demand while trying to

1570
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 2: artificially drive down those prices. Right, So, when you have

1571
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 2: every fewer numbers of doctors and you try to reimburse

1572
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 2: them or pay them less or not to pay them

1573
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 2: more as prices go up, then the more the we're

1574
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:24,520
Speaker 2: going to get out of it. It's going to exacerbate

1575
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 2: the supply curve. We should have been over the last

1576
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 2: fifteen years doing whatever we can to create more doctors, nurses,

1577
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 2: and physicians assistance in America finding ways to meet that demand.

1578
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 2: There are lots of ways to do it, and some

1579
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 2: of it's going to be done with AI and some

1580
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 2: of it's going to be with fixing red tape. Housing

1581
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 2: is another prime example. Right, if you increase demand, or

1582
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 2: you have increasing demand for housing, if you if you

1583
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 2: move people into inner cities, if you if you remove

1584
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 2: them from rural America, and you discourage them from staying

1585
01:29:57,880 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 2: in rural America, and you do whatever you can to

1586
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 2: make the move into cities where they can get on

1587
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 2: mass transit, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. You can

1588
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 2: be surprised when if there are restrictions on what kind

1589
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 2: of housing can be built in certain areas that housing

1590
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 2: prices don't skyrocket. You want to bring down the cost

1591
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 2: of housing, build more housing, make it easier for people

1592
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 2: to build houses. Again, this is not rocket science out there,

1593
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 2: and let's go here. I mean, Kevin has It was

1594
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 2: talking about the fundamentals of the economy. Let's talk. Let's

1595
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 2: play cut twenty four.

1596
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 3: First of all, it's not going to last for months.

1597
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 23: President Trump's team has does that it's going to be

1598
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 23: four to six weeks beginning two weeks ago, and that

1599
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 23: we're ahead of schedule.

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01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 2: And so the second, if it did last.

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01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 23: For a long time, it wouldn't really do a lot

1602
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 23: of harm to the US economy. Now, certainly there'd be

1603
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 23: pocket pundational book issues that we'd have to address, But

1604
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 23: the bottom line is that the US produces so much

1605
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 23: oil that you can't really get GDP to go negative

1606
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:01,679
Speaker 23: with it oil shock the way you could in the seventies.

1607
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 23: So we're in a very strong position. But it really

1608
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 23: heightens the strength by the fact that we've got a

1609
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 23: productivity boom from artificial intelligence, we've got a capital spending

1610
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 23: boom because of the Big Beautiful Bill, and we've got

1611
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 23: incomes growing the fastest. We've seen since back around twenty eighteen,

1612
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 23: and so all the fundamentals of our economy are really

1613
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 23: really strong. If a Ran thinks that they're going to

1614
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 23: get President Trump to back down because they're going to

1615
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 23: make our economy week, then they just don't understand economics.

1616
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not surprised that they wouldn't understand economics when

1617
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 2: so many people in America don't understand economics, When they're

1618
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 2: sick of fans in the leftist media don't understand economics,

1619
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 2: When the Democrat cheerleaders don't understand economics, you know, the

1620
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 2: Abigail spanbergers. My Virginia governor doesn't understand economics, it's hard

1621
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 2: not to recognize that maybe the Iranians don't understand economics.

1622
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 2: Tim Graham from the Media Research Center, he's going to

1623
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:56,680
Speaker 2: be joining us in just a couple of minutes. I'm

1624
01:31:56,720 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 2: Andrew Langer. This is Tony Kats today. So I mean, listen,

1625
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:06,719
Speaker 2: this is all AI. Isn't that crazy and the bravest stuff?

1626
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, having fun over the weekend, making my own

1627
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 2: my own Irish Irish music. Tim Graham broke, Tim, you

1628
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 2: you're a fan of Irish music.

1629
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:19,600
Speaker 3: Well, I'm Irish. I don't know so much about the

1630
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 3: folk music. No, Oh my goodness, I'm probably a little

1631
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 3: slow on folk music of any kind.

1632
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 2: What's what's your go to? What do you what do

1633
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 2: you listening? What's what's on? What's on you? What's on

1634
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 2: your Spotify? I don't even I don't use Spotify, But

1635
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 2: what's on your Spotify list?

1636
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 5: Year?

1637
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 2: What do you what are you listening to these days?

1638
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 3: Well, we got we got new they might be giants coming.

1639
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 2: Oh there you go. I love it, I love it.

1640
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 2: We're joined by Tim Graham. He's the editor of NewsBusters

1641
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 2: at the Media Research Center. Uh yeah, Tim, I just

1642
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,639
Speaker 2: I've been playing around with Souno, this AI music thing,

1643
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, just getting getting into the spirit

1644
01:32:58,080 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 2: for Saint Patrick. You're not going to do anything for

1645
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 2: Saint Past day, you guys are you guys are in Alexandria, right,

1646
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 2: you're not going to be over at over at O'Connell's

1647
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 2: or wherever.

1648
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 3: We are in Herndon now, oh you are?

1649
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there you go.

1650
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 3: We could go over to Dullus and pretend we have

1651
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 3: a flight.

1652
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 2: Yes, that's absolutely true. Listen, folks, NewsBusters, great entity, great organization.

1653
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 2: Media Research Center. Obviously doing terrific work. But I wanted

1654
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 2: to get you on a because I wanted to get

1655
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 2: your thoughts about the oscars, but I also want to

1656
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 2: talk to it. Let's start here, though, with the the

1657
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:38,680
Speaker 2: media's bizarre coverage of this military action. Uh gone are

1658
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 2: the days where we were all hunkered in our basements

1659
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 2: watching Wolf Blitzer and yes, I'm gonna pull this from

1660
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 2: Wayne's World, drinking Jolt Cola and just getting bleary eyed.

1661
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's almost as though, you know, Tim,

1662
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 2: you know how I knew CNN didn't like the way

1663
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 2: things were going with this Iran invasion. It's because they

1664
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,200
Speaker 2: play the somber This is really bad music, you know,

1665
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 2: over over sort of the somebody got a splinter kinds

1666
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 2: of kinds of stories. The media just can't They can't

1667
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 2: say anything nice about about this presidency, can they?

1668
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 3: No? I mean, I think this is the whole problem.

1669
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 13: You know.

1670
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 3: Jake Tamper gave this big, stem winding oration at the

1671
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 3: end of the show yesterday. It was like every reporter

1672
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 3: I know is love the America, roots for America. But

1673
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 3: we stick up for America by asking the tough questions.

1674
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 3: And it's like, come on, you know, try again. You know,

1675
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 3: it's the obvious point when you listen to the to

1676
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:40,600
Speaker 3: the news is the way that they frame it is

1677
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 3: everything's going wrong. Trump doesn't know what he's doing. Gas

1678
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 3: is going up, terrorism is going to go up. Everything's bad,

1679
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 3: be very afraid. I mean that kind of the way.

1680
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 3: That's kind of uh, you know, the tone. Sometimes we

1681
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 3: start with the tone and the facts come later. But

1682
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 3: it always seems to me when I listen to these

1683
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 3: people talk about the Trump administration that it's they're really

1684
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:07,600
Speaker 3: giving you the political weather, right, really news. It's just

1685
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:11,639
Speaker 3: constantly dark clouds, tornadoes, he you know something, everything's bad.

1686
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:14,560
Speaker 2: It's interesting because it's like I knew a guy on

1687
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 2: the radio who used to report about polling, and here

1688
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 2: there are two different kinds of polls that are out there.

1689
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 2: There are polls that that people use to tell government

1690
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 2: what they want them to do. Should government? Uh, should

1691
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 2: government do X? Should government do why? I would support this,

1692
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 2: I would support that. But there are also polls about

1693
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:41,680
Speaker 2: who who voters think is responsible for X or Y. Now,

1694
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean that folks are actually responsible for X

1695
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 2: or Y. It just means that they're that voters are

1696
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 2: perceiving them to be, and that's usually a function of

1697
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 2: what the media is telling them. That's you know, am

1698
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 2: I am I wrong?

1699
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 13: Here?

1700
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 2: That's sort of we've this is what this is the

1701
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 2: sort of the this is what you're talking about in

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01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,560
Speaker 2: terms of the political weather forecasting, isn't it?

1703
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 3: Well? I just found it a bit disturbing that they

1704
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 3: were already doing poles like twelve hours into the war

1705
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 3: and then said this war is unpopular. It's barely started,

1706
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:18,639
Speaker 3: I mean, right, And it's like, could it be possible

1707
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 3: that you should wait forty eight hours before you start

1708
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 3: polling about how bad it is? Right?

1709
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, this is the old line from the

1710
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 2: movie Lincoln. Time is a great thickener of things. But

1711
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 2: we can't have that. We can't just sort of let

1712
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 2: the red wine sit out and breathe a little bit,

1713
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 2: can we?

1714
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 3: And when you ask a poll about do you think

1715
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 3: it's a good idea to go at war with the

1716
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 3: world's number one supporter of terrorism, maybe people will be

1717
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 3: a little nervous. Do we really think that's wise? I mean,

1718
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 3: And first of all, people don't really want to be

1719
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,559
Speaker 3: in favor of war because war is a terrible thing,

1720
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:56,720
Speaker 3: and a lot of people die, so you don't want

1721
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 3: to be in favor of war. But it seems like

1722
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 3: that the this is like every other Trump story, which

1723
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 3: is the whole approach is coverage of Trump has to

1724
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 3: be negative, negative, negative, and it can't just be gosh,

1725
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 3: things are not going great today, guys, it's this guy's

1726
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:15,520
Speaker 3: going to get us all killed type of negativity.

1727
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:18,600
Speaker 2: This is the butt for situation, which is, you know,

1728
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 2: Trump's popularity, where would it be but for the ninety

1729
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 2: five percent relentlessly negative coverage, Right, I mean, this is

1730
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:26,719
Speaker 2: this is what we're talking about.

1731
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:30,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so what you're going to find with these

1732
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 3: polls is President Trump's military action is popular with people

1733
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 3: who voted for him, right, and it's unpopular with people

1734
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:41,920
Speaker 3: who voted for Kamala. But they're all like, well, look

1735
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 3: at the independence. And I think that's where you can say,

1736
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 3: are they are independents more likely to get their views

1737
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:52,640
Speaker 3: based on just a gut check what they're seeing in

1738
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 3: the news, and you know, being a little scared by

1739
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 3: war with Iran doesn't sound comfy.

1740
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, and right, and then there's the issue of

1741
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 2: whether or not they're really independent. So they just tell

1742
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 2: folks that they're independence because they but they really have

1743
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 2: their things. Well let's go here, because talking talking up

1744
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 2: sort of more fun stuff. Uh, I'm sure. Well, you

1745
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 2: guys watch the Academy Awards. The rest of us don't

1746
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 2: have to your your thoughts on what trend the pageant

1747
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:24,679
Speaker 2: of the Motion Picture Academy last evening.

1748
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we try to watch all these awards shows

1749
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 3: because they become platforms and celebrities and actors and singers

1750
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 3: are all like usual se progressive.

1751
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 2: That is a wonderful thirst and howl the third impression,

1752
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 2: by the way.

1753
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 3: Yes, well and they're that rich, so it's it is.

1754
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 3: The last couple of award shows have been a little bland.

1755
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 3: You know that they were very upset that the Golden

1756
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 3: Globes didn't have more fears anti Trump rhetoric. You know, sure,

1757
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 3: we want we want our awards shows to sound like

1758
01:38:58,120 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 3: Keith Olberman on Happy Play.

1759
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

1760
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 3: We got more of that last night. You know, you

1761
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 3: did get some of these orations, and you've got you know,

1762
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,599
Speaker 3: bad anti Trump jokes from Colin O'Brien, and then Jimmy

1763
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 3: Kimmel comes in to give an award and does his

1764
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 3: anti Trump routine. You know, and the documentary award Oscar

1765
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:23,560
Speaker 3: winner was something about the documentary is about Putin, So

1766
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:25,559
Speaker 3: you knew that was going to be anti Trump.

1767
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 2: Sure.

1768
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 3: So it's this is where you know a lot of

1769
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 3: conservatives now their whole pose is, I don't watch these

1770
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 3: award shows. I think that this is an opportunity to

1771
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:41,600
Speaker 3: just say, look at these rich left wing jerks and

1772
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 3: what jerks they are, and you know, yeah, I want

1773
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:46,719
Speaker 3: to highlight these comments.

1774
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 2: It's it's funny say because that's exactly what I said

1775
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the show.

1776
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:50,840
Speaker 4: You know.

1777
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 2: It's it's become it's become the thing to say, I

1778
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 2: don't watch the I watched. I would have watched last night.

1779
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 2: I had some some family emergency last night, so I

1780
01:39:58,200 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 2: couldn't watch it. I would have watched it because I

1781
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 2: do Conan O'Brien. I do like his podcast. You know,

1782
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 2: he when he's when he's engaging in his absurdist humor,

1783
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 2: that's the best Conan O'Brien. But but the the you know,

1784
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 2: when he gets political, it just it comes off as

1785
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 2: as I don't know, the note doesn't ring well because

1786
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 2: it's just not him.

1787
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, as opposed to yeah with somebody like Kimmel. It's

1788
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 3: definitely him, right, Yeah, I mean, I guess these days

1789
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 3: you wouldn't really have to watch the whole show. You

1790
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 3: could just watch people's tweet.

1791
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 2: Right now, right, I mean, I haven't watched the opening

1792
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 2: opening monologue. I'm gonna I'm gonna do that. I mean,

1793
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 2: I you know, as I said, I like that just again,

1794
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 2: when he gets, when he gets, when he gets goofy.

1795
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 2: It's it's always a good thing. Let me ask you

1796
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 2: this because you know I said this earlier. I wanted

1797
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 2: to get your thoughts. Saturday Night Live is best when

1798
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:55,600
Speaker 2: they are making fun of each other. I think, you know,

1799
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:59,639
Speaker 2: when stars are poking fun at themselves. Last week, Ryan

1800
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 2: Goss Link hosting and sort of feeling a little inferior

1801
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 2: when Harry Styles was in the front row of the

1802
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:10,400
Speaker 2: audience during his opening monologue. That's good, but again the

1803
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:13,880
Speaker 2: sort of the one note, uh, the political stuff, it's

1804
01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 2: just not all that interesting. I don't think, what are you?

1805
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts here?

1806
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah? I you know, the wife loves Harry Styles and

1807
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 3: so she thought this show is terrific. And there were

1808
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 3: really some some funny bits, and I think the biggest

1809
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 3: surprise was they had this thing where Sebastian man at

1810
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 3: Scalco is going to.

1811
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 2: Be a yes, which was funny but really until the

1812
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 2: very end they should have ended it differently. But that

1813
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:39,719
Speaker 2: was amazing.

1814
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Harry found doing a man of Scalco in Preston.

1815
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 3: Who Yeah, that was coming.

1816
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 2: Yes, no, there absolutely true, it is it was it

1817
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:52,520
Speaker 2: was folks, if you haven't seen this, Uh, the Marcello

1818
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 2: whatever his name is, is doing the Sebastian Manuscaco impression.

1819
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 2: He's done it a couple of times before, but doing

1820
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:01,479
Speaker 2: it as a as a defense law. And then Harry

1821
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:04,880
Speaker 2: Styles doing his Sebastian man a Scalco impression. Yeah, that

1822
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 2: was that was that was well, that was well worth it.

1823
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:09,599
Speaker 2: So so Tim, how do folks find out more about

1824
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:12,599
Speaker 2: the good work you guys are doing at NewsBusters.

1825
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 3: NewsBusters dot org and of course yeah, we follow us

1826
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 3: an ax or follow the NewsBusters podcast on YouTube and rumble.

1827
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 2: It's good stuff. And Herndon did you have when did

1828
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 2: when I missed this? When did you guys make the

1829
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:26,679
Speaker 2: move to Herndon?

1830
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 15: Uh?

1831
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 3: Well, we went from Alexander to rest in twenty thirteen

1832
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:34,839
Speaker 3: and when the lease was up and resting. In twenty thirteen,

1833
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:36,000
Speaker 3: we moved over to Herndon.

1834
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 2: You know what that tells me. That tells me, Tim,

1835
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 2: I've been in this business too long. I'm way too

1836
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 2: old for this day.

1837
01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:46,680
Speaker 3: I mean, this is like for me. I started at

1838
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 3: the MRC in nineteen eighty nine, so this is oh,

1839
01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 3: that's right quarters. This is like headquarters number five or something. Well,

1840
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 3: there you go.

1841
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 2: You know something, you and I I think you made

1842
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:59,240
Speaker 2: you have me beat ever so slightly in DC. Tim Grip,

1843
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:00,920
Speaker 2: thank you so very much for joining us. My friend,

1844
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 2: you bet it's Tim Graham. He's the editor of NewsBusters.

1845
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 2: Check them out NewsBusters dot org. Some final thoughts when

1846
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 2: we come back, I'm Andrew Langer. This is Tony Kats Today.

1847
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:14,679
Speaker 2: Welcome back, guys. Yeah, you know something, I am obsessed

1848
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 2: with Michael Collins. If you haven't seen the movie with

1849
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 2: Lie and Meeson, you want to do something on Saint

1850
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:22,560
Speaker 2: Patrick's Day, go and watch that Michael Collins. It's a

1851
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:26,559
Speaker 2: great movie. So yeah, So I was writing songs over

1852
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:29,719
Speaker 2: the weekend about Michael Collins and Amon dave A Lara

1853
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 2: And there's a somewhat mid level character in it named

1854
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 2: Ned Bry. I wrote a little thing about him anyway,

1855
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 2: having fun with that. Hi, everybody, I'm Andrew Langer in

1856
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:43,640
Speaker 2: for Tony Katz today. Had a little caffeine there. You know,

1857
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:47,639
Speaker 2: Landon and I always talking about this stuff off the air.

1858
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:50,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about this for a minute. I'll

1859
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:53,520
Speaker 2: come back to the policy stuff momentarily.

1860
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 3: I am.

1861
01:43:56,680 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 2: Obsessed with Lorne michaels I. You know, I find him fascinating.

1862
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 2: I read the biography that came out about him last year,

1863
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:07,720
Speaker 2: Lorne Michael's the Man who invented Saturday Night. And as

1864
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 2: I was telling Landon, if you are someone who is

1865
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:12,879
Speaker 2: in business, and you are someone who is in leadership

1866
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 2: in business, if you are someone who is moving up

1867
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 2: the corporate ladder, I cannot recommend this book highly enough

1868
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:25,480
Speaker 2: because it really is a book about leadership and leadership

1869
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 2: in complex organizations, how to manage groups of creative people

1870
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:32,679
Speaker 2: and get the best out of them, and the missteps

1871
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 2: you can make. It's very good. So Lorne Michael's the

1872
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 2: man who invented Saturday Night. There's a movie, a documentary

1873
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 2: coming out next month. I cannot wait for it to

1874
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 2: come out. Very excited about this. Yeah, I oh yes,

1875
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:49,560
Speaker 2: I will do my Lauren Michael's impression. Every once in

1876
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 2: a while it drives my wife up the wall. And

1877
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:55,720
Speaker 2: when I do it anyway, So yeah, Lauren Michaels, the

1878
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 2: man who invented Saturday Night Life. The men have died

1879
01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:03,600
Speaker 2: Saturday Night. Let's go here obviously. So I don't know

1880
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:08,559
Speaker 2: how many of you have flown recently. I flew last week.

1881
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 2: Holy cow, the days all blend together. I had to

1882
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:14,599
Speaker 2: go give a presentation up in New York a couple

1883
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 2: of weeks ago. If you're gonna fly, my recommendation is,

1884
01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 2: if you don't have TSA PreCheck, get it. I think

1885
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 2: you can still get it right now. I just faw

1886
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:28,760
Speaker 2: comments on that on the paperwork they'rein. Go and get

1887
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:31,640
Speaker 2: your TSA pre check, because right now that really is

1888
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 2: the only way you can beat these lines. If you

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01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 2: don't have TSA PreCheck, I would advise you not to fly.

1890
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 2: If you can help it. I'll get to the airport

1891
01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:45,759
Speaker 2: super super early. Here is Sean Duffy yesterday on talking

1892
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 2: about this, and the Democrats need to come to the table.

1893
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:49,679
Speaker 2: Let's play cut number eighteen.

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01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:52,679
Speaker 24: So, as you mentioned, TSA agents have missed a partial payment.

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01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 24: They dismissed a full payment. These are many women who

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01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 24: don't make a lot of money, and so some of

1897
01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 24: them are making choices to go, you know, whether they're

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01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 24: iven uber or waiting tables, they have to put food

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01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,160
Speaker 24: on their family's table. And in these places where this

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01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 24: is happening, you're seeing really long lines, whether they're.

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01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:10,720
Speaker 2: One hour, three to four hour lines.

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01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 24: At airports, and I think if you stand in that line,

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01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 24: it's one thing, Maria Ca you're by yourself, but if

1904
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 24: you're with some little kids or any kids for three

1905
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 24: or four hours, it's horrible. And so you can think

1906
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 24: of democrat who cares more about making sure that the

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01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 24: fifteen million people that they led into this country under

1908
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:30,680
Speaker 24: Joe Biden, that we don't have an ice that can

1909
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 24: actually look across the country, find those radical elements who

1910
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 24: come into the country without by the way, without being vetted,

1911
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Speaker 24: find them and deport them. This is what these Democrats want.

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Speaker 24: And so my hope is that Democrats will come to

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Speaker 24: their senses, open up DHS and then have a negotiation.

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Speaker 24: Have a conversation, but in the process, don't hold America

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Speaker 24: hostage to just get what you want.

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Speaker 2: The Democrats, let's be really clear as to where we

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Speaker 2: are right now. The Democrats are on the side of

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Speaker 2: the Iranians, right. They wanted to see the Iranian regime

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Speaker 2: remain in place. They don't like the military action. They

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Speaker 2: don't want to fund any military actions. So they want

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Speaker 2: to make sure that the Mullahs, that the Iatolas remain

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Speaker 2: in charge in Iroan. They want to make sure that

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Speaker 2: the TSA agents are staying home. They want to make

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Speaker 2: sure that you have three to four let's say hours

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Speaker 2: long lines. So let's say an hour long line. They

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Speaker 2: want to make sure that you have to take extra

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Speaker 2: time because they're not willing to fund the government. Why

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Speaker 2: because they don't like the fact that somebody is taking

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Speaker 2: decisive action to deal with the crisis that the Democrats

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Speaker 2: themselves caused. You know, I didn't play this, but you

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Speaker 2: know Chuck Schumer is talking about the problems of the

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Speaker 2: Save Act kicking millions of people off the voter rolls. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's an admission by Chuck Schumer that potentially millions of

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Speaker 2: people are voting illegally in our elections. That's the side

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Speaker 2: that the Democrats are standing on. It's very clear there. Listen,

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Speaker 2: you want to find out more about the good work

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Speaker 2: that i'm doing. Follow me on x at Andrew Underscoreliner.

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Speaker 2: You can find my podcasts, the policy work that i'm doing,

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Speaker 2: the various writings that are out there. Go and check

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Speaker 2: it out. As always, it's been great. Thank you Landon

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Speaker 2: for producing, Thank you Tony, Thank you to the team

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Speaker 2: at Tony Kats today. Have a great good night everybody,

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Speaker 2: and please stay safe.