1 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: The questions for you, Yeah, which party runs Indiana. Who's 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: been in the majority for twenty years? 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: Republican. Oh, there easy questions. 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: So the second question would be why is there waste 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: fraud abuse. 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: Because Republicans don't care about race froden abuse apparently because 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: they've been runing the state for the last twenty years. 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: It's interesting because the governor, Governor Brown just got a 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: message and he said that he's going to be fighting 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: waste fraud abuse in government, and he signed an executive 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: order creating an Indiana Council on Fraud Detection and Prevention, 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: and that is to quote, build on his success and 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: rooting out and eliminating waste fraud abuse and government I e. DC. Anyone, anyone, bueller, bueller, hurt. 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: Don't look at that waste fraud intervieuse over there, look 15 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: over here at this way fraud. We like that waste 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: fraud and abuse. It's a different waste front abuse, right exactly. 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: And Braun likes the waste fraud and abuse at the 18 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 2: ied C. What he's talking about here is waste fraud 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: abuse and social programs Medicare, Medicaid, snap and that sort 20 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: of thing. But look, you know, creaking winners and losers 21 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: got creating a statewide anti fraud body, body or entity, 22 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: especially when the headline's about fraud and the safety net programs. 23 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: This is Braun being able to posture himself as this 24 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 2: hero of fiscal discipline. Meanwhile, we all know that forensic 25 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: audit of the id d C, we like, the audit 26 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: of the IEDC, was this huge process, cost tons and 27 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: tons of money to do it, and so that we 28 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: could find out where the problems are. And then we went, Okay, 29 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: that's John. We know where the problems are, we know 30 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: where the waste fraud abuse is. We now have that 31 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: information after we all spent this money, and now let's 32 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: go over here and let's let that waste, fraud and 33 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: abuse just continue. But that's exactly what he's done here, 34 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: because he done absolutely nothing to correct all the problems 35 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: that took place in the IEDC audit. Let's remind you 36 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: of what those problems were. At least ten instances at 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: the IEDC of Undisco disclosed conflicts of interest and thirty 38 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: entities that got money while connected to insiders. And now 39 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: we've got to go turn our head somewhere else and 40 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: worry about waste fraud and abuse when those problems haven't 41 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: been corrected. I mean, this anti fraud step that he's 42 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: taking here great wonderful, should root out waste fraud and 43 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: abuse in all of government. But the fact that he's 44 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: just ignoring the waste fraud and abuse we've already found 45 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: at the IEDC and doing nothing to stop it. 46 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: How about the waste front abuse and the automobile purchases, 47 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: how about the helipad? How about ordering executive orders but 48 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: then having a hard time passing any bill to oh taxpayers, 49 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: he said that there are going to be that there 50 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: are two thousand positions vacant from more than one hundred 51 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: and eighty days, and that they've been eliminated and that's 52 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: going to generate savings of over a million dollars for 53 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: the state. So that tells you a couple of things. One, 54 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: they didn't need those positions to begin with, of course, 55 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: loaded has your government been let me answer that. And 56 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: two we're just not going to fill them. 57 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, that's a good start. But look, I'm not 58 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: going to give Braun credit for this. Look that he 59 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: should be doing this. We should be rooting out waste 60 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: frauden abuse, in these areas. It's wonderful that we saved 61 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: a million dollars, fantastic, but that doesn't give you a 62 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: pass on the two decades of disaster that has been 63 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: the IEDC and all the conflict of interest. That's not 64 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: just us at this radio station talking about it. The 65 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: Indie Star did you know, Indiana Capitol Chronicle have reported 66 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: on the you know, the Three Kings, the famous three 67 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: Kings article that was put out there about all of 68 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: the conflicts of interest to IEDC, and virtually nothing has 69 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: been done to address that. Oh and by the way, 70 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: heck of a lot mo when we're talking in terms 71 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: of raw dollars, heck of a lot more waste, frauden 72 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: abuse looks like it was taking place at the IEDC 73 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: than anything that will be rooted out with this new 74 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: bill that brought us pushing. 75 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so we've got that House Bill ten thousand and 76 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: six or one thousand and sixty six, and that was 77 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: the luxury vehicle ban, and it was to ban local 78 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: governments from purchasing luxury vehicles with taxpayer funds. 79 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: Is that a problem? Have government officials been buying extremely 80 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: expensive vehicles? It was yes, Oh, okay, yeah, I know, 81 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: of course it's been a very big, high profile problem. 82 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: Yet so it was eligible for a final vote, but 83 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: it left It has been left off the House calendar, 84 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: no explanation, just poof vanished like a fart in the wind. 85 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: Let me guess, replaced with a vote on the state sandwich. 86 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: Is that what we're doing. We're going to focus on 87 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: the port tender loind be in the state Sandwich. Nothing 88 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 2: about potential elected officials spending nearly one hundred thousand dollars 89 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: on their state luxury SUVs. 90 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: So you've got the mayor of Baltimore. It's not just here, 91 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: by the way, it's not just here in Indiana. 92 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: That's supposed to make feel good. I don't know. It's okay. 93 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: All these politicians are wasting your taxpayer dollars on luxury 94 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: SUV's everywhere in the country. It's not just Indiana. You 95 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 2: should be fine with it if it's happening elsewhere. 96 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: No, in Baltimore. 97 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 2: Okay, check this out. 98 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: The mayor, not the Secretary of State, not the lieutenant governor, 99 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: the mayor of a city Baltimore. His suv cost one 100 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty three thousand, four hundred and ninety five dollars? 101 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 2: How do you even spend that much money? Like, if 102 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: I want like the top tier premium super fast M 103 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: class BMWSUV, I can't get it. I can't even get 104 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: its price tag to one hundred and sixty thousand, all 105 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: the bells and everything on it, I can't. Pretty Seriously, 106 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: you'd have to buy like a g a Mercedes g 107 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: Wagon or the Lamborghini Suv to get to a price 108 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: tag of one hundred and sixty thousand dollars. See, our 109 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: guys here in Indiana, aren't that bad? Salmley spend ninety 110 00:05:58,800 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 2: grand on their suv. 111 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: So he was recently asked about this from a reporter, 112 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: and what was the response from the reporter, don't ask 113 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: that you're being racist. 114 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 2: We'll just stop you right there. 115 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: We'll just stop you right there. 116 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 2: We get it. 117 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 3: We understand that your station has just severe right wing 118 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 3: effort underway. 119 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: We get that. 120 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: But you also, you guys are dragging this thing out 121 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: and also not including all the facts. A vehicle that 122 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: was purchased in twenty twenty three is not the same 123 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: price as twenty twenty five, right, you have to understand 124 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: that reality. When you look at I'm talking you can 125 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: listen to let me talk. Please. 126 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: We heard your question. 127 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: You've asked the same idiotic question now for three months. 128 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: We understand that when you look at a. 129 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: Base price for SUVs. Base price of SUVs. 130 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: Now, as you know, between ninety and one hundred thousand dollars, 131 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 3: you're talking about a police vehicle with police equipment on it. 132 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: Added on top of that vehicle. 133 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 3: Is very simple and we when you look at these 134 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: are not astronomical costs, right You guys in your station 135 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: in particular, would never ask the President of the United 136 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: States how much the beast costs. 137 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: You wouldn't do that. You would never do that. 138 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: Is he comparing himself to the president. He's the mayor 139 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: of a city. 140 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: He is comparing himself to the president. By the way 141 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: base cost of it. He said that the base cost 142 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: of an SUV is at least between ninety and one 143 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars. So the base cost of a Chevy Tahoe, 144 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: that's a very nice suv based cost sixty thousand dollars. 145 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: So it's almost like he wasn't telling the truth. 146 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: Almost He said his is one hundred and sixty three 147 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: thousan four hundred and ninety five dollars. 148 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: That is insane, But I love how his response is 149 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: to attack the person asking the question. It's eerily similar 150 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: to Diego Morales. And when he got talk with question 151 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: Indiana Secretary of State Diego Morales, and he got peppered 152 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: with questions about some of the wrongdoings in his office, 153 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: he went straight to saying fake WIBC, fake Indie star 154 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: in blaming the media for it. Apparently Diego Morales and 155 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: the Mary of Baltimore must be buddies because they got 156 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: the exact same talking points when when when problems arise 157 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: with their vehicle person, he attacked. 158 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: That reporter, saying, you're just trying to promote your conservative 159 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: talking points. No, they're trying to get to the bottom 160 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: of why are you spending so much money on your vehicle. 161 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: So there was a recent survey done and it was 162 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: asking gen Z drivers which cars they think are cool 163 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: versus cringe. And they believe that well, a lot of 164 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: luxury and performance vehicles are cool and practical moderately priced 165 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: cars are cringe. Their least favorite vehicle is the Tesla 166 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: cyber truck. 167 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 2: By the way, wait, wait, haven't all younger generations thought 168 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: like entry level cars or cringe. Look, when I was 169 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: a kid, nobody wanted to be driving the Chevy Chavette. 170 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: Do you remember that? That was like that was one 171 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: of that Yeah, a ton of my friends drove them there. 172 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: And why were these sixteen year olds driving a Chevy 173 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: Chavette Because they could afford it. It was like fifteen 174 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: hundred bucks and either they rate you know, got the 175 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: money from you know, waiting tables, whatever side job they had, 176 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 2: or it's what their parents could afford to get them. 177 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: I think every generation thinks entry level vehicles and cheap 178 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: vehicles are cringe. I don't think this is brand new information. Look, 179 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: the Ford Pinto was an entry level car back in 180 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: the seventies and everybody thought that was cringe too. 181 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: But you gotta take into consideration. You're talking about the 182 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: generation that needs to look cool on everything, in everything 183 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: on social media. How are they going to put an 184 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: awesome picture of themselves in front of their Hona Civic 185 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: on social media looking cool? 186 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm gonna give you a suggestion, don't toast it 187 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: on social media? How about this? How about that? Yeah, 188 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: how about you just get a car that takes you 189 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: from A to B? 190 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: Did you see Cameron Brink. She's a forward for the 191 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. 192 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: Sparks, Yes place for the WNBA. 193 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: She told TMZ that she would consider opposing for Playboy magazine, 194 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: but only if her fiance. Her fiance approves. 195 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 2: I did not see this story, So this is the 196 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: first time I'm hearing about this. 197 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: Still light of me. 198 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't know. I don't. I don't 199 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: get news alerts about who may or may not be 200 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: appearing in Playboy, So I am not familiar with this. 201 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: She's tall, She's like six foot three. She's absolutely huge, 202 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 2: and uh interesting, it's. 203 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: Interesting where she's already done some Sports Illustrated swimsuit modeling. 204 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: She was in a couple of w NBA players, Cameron 205 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: Brink and Haley Van Litt, both appeared in the most 206 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: recent Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue. But it's interesting that she 207 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: she you know, figures that she better talk to her 208 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 2: fiance about this too. It must be tough. Look, it 209 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: must be very difficult to be an attractive young woman. 210 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's really hard. 211 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: Well, but you've got a big decision to make, so 212 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: never before in human history. 213 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: It's that decision. Well, you have my attention. 214 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: There's now a time and mechanism to where you can 215 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: gets do think, cash in on your physical appearances in 216 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 2: certain ways, and really cash in on it. I mean, 217 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: never at a point of human history have we had 218 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 2: a time where young women can exploit themselves to the 219 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: point where they can very quickly and very easily make 220 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: life changing money. 221 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: Well, she's I find it interesting that she's saying she 222 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: would have to talk with her fiance about this, because 223 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of feminists out there who would say, hey, 224 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: you know what, this is her decision. It should be 225 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: left up to her discretion. Here, she is a notable 226 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: woman saying, yeah, I consider it, but only if he's 227 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: cool with it. 228 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think that's a normal person's perspective, Isn't 229 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: it like honoring the very much anything. Hey, look, I'm 230 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: going to buy a new car, or I want to 231 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: buy a new car. I'm going to check with my 232 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: spouse for I mean almost any decision. Hey, you want 233 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: to go out to dinner Friday night, I don't know, 234 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: let me check with my spouse first. It's just kind 235 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: of the kind nice thing you do in a normal, 236 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: healthy relationship that if there's gonna be a big decision, 237 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: you kind of check with your spouse first and see 238 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: what they think about it. 239 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: You're listening to ninety three WYBC dan Halen releasing an 240 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: expanded edition of their classic album fifty one to fifty. 241 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: They're celebrating the fortieth anniversary. 242 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: Forty years. 243 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: I can't even I can't even believe it. I just 244 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: know it takes me back to March nineteen eighty six. 245 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: I was a sophomore in high school. Think about this 246 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: this out, keep it going, Kevin, Yeah, turn. 247 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 4: Up a little. 248 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 2: The song was a jem oh Man. 249 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: I was driving around I just gotten my driver's license 250 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: two months before, driving around in Moms. 251 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: The Cavalier Station with Chevy Cavaliers Station Wagon Mom Wight 252 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: Blue the Family Truckster. 253 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: And this album came out, Are you kidding Me? Best 254 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: of both worlds and dreams? Why can't this you love? 255 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: This album was a total banger. And so this was 256 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: a kind of a seminal point in Van Halen because 257 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: this was the first album with Sammy Hagar as the 258 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: lead singer. And that was I think back in the 259 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: day David lee Roth leaving van Halen. I mean, Van 260 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: Halen was a tough story. Van Halen was the biggest 261 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: rock and roll band in the world at the time, 262 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: and you've got this charismatic, outrageous lead singer in David 263 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: Lee Roth and he leaves the band and they replace 264 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 2: him with Sammy Hagar, and Van Halen fans are like, Okay, 265 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 2: this is either gonna be amazing and fantastic or this 266 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: is the end of Van Halen, and they ended up 267 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: putting out one of their best albums ever. I mean, 268 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: just like you said, why can't this be Loved Dreams 269 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: Summer Nights, best of both worlds, Love Walks In just 270 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 2: an album full of nothing but bangers. 271 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, So they're going to have some ninety minutes of 272 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: unreleased concert material from a nineteen eighty six New Haven 273 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: show and you can get this. Let's see, it's going 274 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: to be on an LP three CD, also a Blu 275 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: ray set and remastered original album bonuses that's previously unreleased 276 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: live footage, and there's also a green vinyl Amazon exclusive 277 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: version that you can get. So they're they're celebrating their 278 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: their legacy without waste. 279 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is typically what artists to do these days, 280 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: after they've pretty much, you know, are done with putting 281 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: out new music. They go and repackage and redo their 282 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: old stuff and put it out for the ultra uber fans. Look, 283 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: if you just liked Van Halen, this probably has no 284 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: interest for you. You can just listen to the fifty 285 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: one to fifty foot songs on Spotify. But if you're 286 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 2: a diehard super van Halen fan, this kind of becomes 287 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: a collectible or something that you know, uber fans are 288 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: going to be really really interested in it. It was 289 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: a make or break album for Van Halen. It was 290 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: really probably one of the most important albums they ever released. 291 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: It does It does bring back a lots of nostalza 292 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: for a lot of people celebrating forty years of this album, 293 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: and it also reminds you that, man, the rock music 294 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: today sucks. 295 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: Kids don't know about the type of music we had 296 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: that was real music back in the day. I also 297 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: think it's interesting too because there's still this constant, ongoing 298 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: feud between the original members of Van Halen and David 299 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: Lee Roth that they choose to do this with a 300 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: Sammy Hagar fronted album. They haven't done it with any 301 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: of the classic David Lee Roth albums. And I mean 302 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: van Halen, I don't even know what is van Halen anymore. 303 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: Eddie has since passed away. Alex van Halen, I guess 304 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: is all that could be left of Van Halen at 305 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: this point. But it is interesting that he chose to 306 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: do this with a Sami fronted album as opposed to 307 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: a David Lee Roth front today. 308 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: Kevin, you still have that in Q. Yeah, yeah, here. 309 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: We get a jam to it again. 310 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: You know what, It's just it's music was not driven 311 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: by political agendas, right, He just wanted to rock out. 312 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: Certainly not as much back then. Their agenda, especially when 313 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: David Lee Roth was there, was partying, having fun chicks 314 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: and my cocktails and drinks and slamming beers, going on 315 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: the road, touring stadiums, tearing up hotel rooms and didn't 316 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 2: have time for social justice craft back then. 317 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: Eddie Van Halen was always my favorite. 318 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: He was so cute. He was adorable, was it? 319 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: He would look at the camera and do his little 320 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: little smile. 321 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: He married, He never talked that much. 322 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: He was always so quiet. 323 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: Married at Valerie Burtonellie. They were an adorable couple. 324 00:16:48,640 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: Love van Halen. You're listening to ninety three WIBC wants 325 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: to talk on whether the Bears are going to move 326 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: and the Windy City grin Iron says that the Bears 327 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: stadium issue could be resolved by March. 328 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 2: That's a month away. Yeah, it's pretty quick. Yeah. 329 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: Another article, Indiana legislature moves to bring the Chicago Bears 330 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: to the Hoosier State. Indiana steps up its pursuit of 331 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears with stadium funding bill. It's moving, The 332 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: wheels are in motion. Yeah. 333 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: This is something that I think a lot of people 334 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 2: have dismissed outright as just oh, this leverage hosting. The 335 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: Bears are just using Indiana's leverage to get a better 336 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 2: deal from Illinois. But this week the own is starting. 337 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it completely shifted. I just mean it 338 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 2: shifted just a little bit toward Okay, Now, maybe this 339 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: is becoming more and more real, and you're starting to 340 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: see a lot of these media entities in Chicago that 341 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: are starting to come out now and say, look, the 342 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 2: Bears are saying that if they don't get a deal 343 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: or something a better offer from the state of Illinois 344 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 2: during this current legislative session, which I believe Illinois legislative 345 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 2: session is slated to end by the end of March 346 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: that if they don't get that deal, they are going 347 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: to go with the Indiana deal. And so the more 348 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: this is being talked about again from the people in 349 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: the know, whether it's Chicago's sports media or Illinois State 350 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 2: House media, the potential move to Indiana is becoming more 351 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: and more real as every day goes by. 352 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: So you said, some of the Chicago media are now 353 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: reporting that this is legit. You've got esp On one thousand, 354 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: which is said to be Chicago's home for sports. It's 355 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: a sports talk station, and you've got Waddle and Sylvie. 356 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. Now this is not a sensational, you know, just 357 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: saying things out there for clicks type show. Tom Wattle 358 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: was a famous, well known receiver for the Chicago Bears, 359 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: former NFL player. He's been partnered with Sylvie for a 360 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: long time. Chee. Those guys have been doing that show 361 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: together for over twenty years, probably one of, if not 362 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: the most respected sports talk show in the entire city 363 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: of Chicago. 364 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: They say the decision to move to Northwest Indiana could 365 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: come at the end of February or early March. 366 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 5: And if the Bears are told at the end of 367 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 5: February and they get what they want from the State 368 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 5: of Indiana, which completely has done everything that they've been 369 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 5: looking for so far, and they go to Illinois, and 370 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 5: Illinois says, we need more time or it's a non 371 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 5: starter for us. Let's just say even Okay, this is real. 372 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 5: Now give us more time to get this done. From 373 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 5: what I've been understanding is the Bears have been at 374 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 5: this for three years. They're frustrated too, and that they 375 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 5: will take their bags and they will move to northwest Indiana, 376 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 5: and that we could get movement on this by the 377 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 5: end of the month or early March. Interesting, and this 378 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 5: could be coming down the pipe soon. And this is 379 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 5: not And I guess the big headline here is for 380 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 5: anyone who thinks two things, that the Bears are using 381 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 5: Indiana as leverage maybe dual point, but that's not the 382 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 5: basis of this. They're getting a great. 383 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 2: Deal in Indiana. They have an option, Yes, they have options. 384 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: And from what I've been. 385 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 5: Told is the state of Indiana would by far give 386 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 5: them the best financial agreement. 387 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 4: Well, because the State of Indiana has agreed to build 388 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 4: the stadium for them. 389 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: Yes, and they would be a lessie. Is that what 390 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: right they be leasing the stadium. 391 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 4: It's the same thing that Jerry Jones has down in 392 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 4: wherever they're at in Texas, where he doesn't own AT 393 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 4: and T Stadium, he leases, so. 394 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: They wouldn't have to. 395 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 5: Now they have all the authority in the process. They 396 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 5: will build the stadium for the Bears. The Bears will 397 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 5: run the state. There will not be an Indiana Park 398 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 5: District or any sort of issue where the park district 399 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 5: could invite this soccer game or this concert the Bears 400 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 5: will have. They will be basically the superintendent of the stadium. 401 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: So you've also gotten Sports Illustrated, who is saying that 402 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: the Bear's patience regarding the stadium. Legislation in Illinois is 403 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: reportedly exhausted. So they're getting upset with Illinois because they 404 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: want the legislature there to approve this eight hundred and 405 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: sixty million dollar infrastructure and improvements. It's not happening. You've 406 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: got Indiana saying, come over here, are taxpayers, not the state. 407 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: The taxpayers are going to pay for this for you, 408 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: so come on board. 409 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 2: What's interesting in that clip that we just heard from 410 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: ESPN one thousand in Chicago is you can you can 411 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 2: kind of hear the realization in those posts voice because 412 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: it was when the Indiana things start, you know, came 413 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: about a month ago. It was it was kind of 414 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: a joke. It was haha, ha, the Gary Bears, the 415 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: ham and Bears. The Bears aren't moving to Indiana. There's 416 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: no way that's happening. And now as time keeps progressing, 417 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: it's becoming a real more potential option for them. And 418 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 2: let's go through a little bit of the background on this. 419 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 2: So the Bears played a Soldier Field for a long 420 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: time and that is owned by the Park District of Chicago, 421 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: and on TV it's beautiful, gorgeous, gives great shots being 422 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: there in person, not the best fans, not the best 423 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 2: fan experience by a long time. The Bears are missing 424 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: out on a lot of potential revenue. So there were 425 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 2: these architecture renderings of what it would look like if 426 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 2: the city built a new stadium for the Bears. It 427 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: would be in roughly the same spot, and it looked 428 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 2: beautiful and wonderful, and the city of Chicago basically said, 429 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: no fricking way, we ain't doing that. It's not happening. 430 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: And so the Bears then go out and they buy 431 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 2: the former Arlington Horse race track, and they spend one 432 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars or more on the Arlington 433 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: horse Race track. And they say to the state, now, 434 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 2: because the city of Chicago's kind of out of it 435 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 2: because we're going to a different city. But they say 436 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 2: to the state, hey, we're going to spend two billion 437 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 2: dollars on the stadium in Arlington Heights, and we'd like you, 438 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: the state to provide six or eight hundred million dollars 439 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 2: in infrastructure, roads and sewer and plumbing and all that 440 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: sort of stuff to support this. And by the way, 441 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 2: we'd like a little break on our property taxes too, 442 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: and this little break break meaning no property taxes. And 443 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: the State of Illinois has basically said that's a non starter, 444 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: and nothing's happened. And this has been a three year process, 445 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 2: and at some point in time, the Bears got to 446 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: get moving on this, and that's why they've so aggressively 447 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: come to Indiana. And Mike Brown, who loves to spend 448 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: the taxpayers money, has said, sure, whatever you need, Chicago 449 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 2: Bears will create this, this Sporting Authority, will pass all 450 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 2: of these bills that give the funding to this, and 451 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 2: essentially Indiana is offering the Bears a free stadium and 452 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: zero property taxes. Zero property taxes. The property taxes for 453 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears potential stadium in Arlington Heights alone, we're 454 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: going to be seventy five million dollars. If the Bears 455 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: want on a new stadium. It looks like right now, 456 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 2: Indiana's really the only option. Now they can always make 457 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: better choice for them. Oh, financially, it's a home run 458 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: on every level. Now. They could stay in Soldier Field 459 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: and figure that out or drag this out for a 460 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 2: few more years and then maybe some other options will 461 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: pop up. But the existing structure at Soldier Field not 462 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 2: going to get rebuilt, Arlington Heights not cost effective, not 463 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: going to work for them. Those two options right now 464 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 2: are out. The only option if the Bears are going 465 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: to move to a new stadium right now is Northwest India. 466 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: So you've got a lot of insiders are saying that 467 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: the franchise, they actually would prefer to stay in Illinois. 468 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: But after three years of talks and it's going nowhere, 469 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: they're frustrated, and you've got all of these political delays happening, 470 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: and it's time sensitive. Eventually they have to make a 471 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: decision because they're not a charity. This is a business. 472 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and plenty of other NFL teams have done this. 473 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: The New York Giants and the New York Jets play 474 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: in New Jersey. The New England Patriots don't play in 475 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: the city of Boston. The dall As Cowboys play in Arlington. 476 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: And if the Bears moved to Northwest Indiana, sure, for 477 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 2: two or three years, Bears fans would raise a lot 478 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 2: of ruckus, especially on social media. I'm never watching the 479 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 2: Bears again. I'm a lifelong fan, and now I'm rooting 480 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: for the Packers and all that. But in two or 481 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: three years, all of that would die down and things 482 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 2: would go back to normal, and the Bears would have 483 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: quite a sweetheart deal that the Indiana lawmakers have given them. 484 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: I mean, one of the best deals people. 485 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: For the Bears. May not be good for the taxpayers. 486 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 2: Terrible for taxpayers, because now that's two NFL stadiums that 487 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: we have essentially given to billionaire owners for free. But 488 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: that looks like the direction. It's just getting to be 489 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 2: more serious. The idea of the Bears moving to Northwest 490 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: Indiana is no longer a joke or no longer something 491 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: that can easily be laughed off like it was a 492 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 2: month or two ago. People are coming to the realization 493 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 2: that this may actually end up happening. 494 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: Let's talk about another building. Donald Trump shared an official 495 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: rendering of the new White House State Ballroom. He called 496 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: it a beautiful building project, expected to cost around three 497 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: hundred to four hundred million, depending on which we report 498 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 1: you're reading. And they're saying that it is entirely funded 499 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: by private donors and Trump himself and in this case, 500 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: not the tax payers. The new ballroom a major addition 501 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: to the White House. It's going to be replacing parts 502 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: of the outdated East wing and providing a larger event 503 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: space for not only state dinners and official functions, but 504 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 1: I guess balls. There was a time when presidents used 505 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: to go to balls and they would dance, I mean, 506 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: George Washington did well. 507 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: More importantly, this would be used for state dinners because 508 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 2: state dinners are currently they set up temporary tents on 509 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 2: the grounds of their White House. Now they're very nice tents, 510 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 2: but they're still tents, and they're still temporary structures. And 511 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: that's where we host world leaders and have state dinners. 512 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 2: And this has been a problem for a long time. 513 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: So let's go back, because presidents for a while have 514 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 2: been asking about this. And in twenty ten, Barack Obama 515 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: tried to get a bill going that would spend three 516 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy six million dollars on a White House renovation. 517 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 2: Three hundred and seventy six million dollars of taxpayer money 518 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 2: on a White House re renovation that would include an 519 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: area to host state dinners. And other presidents have tried 520 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: this and it's gotten nowhere. And this is one of 521 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: the things that I love about Trump too, because you've 522 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 2: got this problem. We need a place that can host 523 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 2: state dinners. Large amount of people. Presidents for decades now 524 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 2: have been asking for this. Obama tried to push it 525 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 2: through with taxpayer dollars, couldn't get it done. It lands 526 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 2: in President's Trump lap, and he's like, just figures out 527 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: a way to get it done. He's like, Okay, fine, 528 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 2: I won't have the taxpayers pay for it. I'll just 529 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: fund raise four hundred million dollars privately and we'll get 530 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,239 Speaker 2: it done. Oh and by the way, I'm not even 531 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: going to try and get this past the Historical Society 532 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 2: or Congress or other people. I'm just gonna send in 533 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 2: the bulldozers, tear down the east wing start construction. I mean, 534 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: that's it's kind of one of the great things that 535 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: I love about Trump. He doesn't let all of these 536 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 2: little obstacles get in his way. If he wants something 537 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 2: done and he can't get it done this way, fine, 538 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: he just figures out another way to get it done. 539 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: And that's exactly what's happening here with. 540 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: Say that's one of the reasons why you like him. 541 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: That's also one of the reasons that critics don't like him, 542 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: because he's not following proper protocol and he's enlisting people 543 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: like Apple and Amazon and Google and Meta and Microsoft 544 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: and Lockheed Martin and others to contribute to this building. 545 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: And it makes people question, Okay, what are they getting 546 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: in return? Yeah, what's their advantage for doing that? 547 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: But I think it shows that Donald Trump comes from 548 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: the world of business and he's not a lifelong politician 549 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 2: like all of these previous presidents that have been in 550 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 2: there that let these roadblocks come up and it's like, Okay, well, 551 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: Congress doesn't want to pass this three hundred and seventy 552 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: six million dollars to renovate the White House, I guess 553 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 2: we're not doing it. But you can't function like that 554 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: as a business executive if every time there was this 555 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: roadblock thrown up, you were just like, Okay, I guess 556 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: we can't do that. No, if you're running a business, 557 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: if you're executive running a business, you figure out a 558 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: way to get it done no matter what. And that's 559 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: what Trump did. And he figured out a way to 560 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: get it done. And he doesn't let old traditions or 561 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 2: this is just the way we've always done it stand 562 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: in his way, red tape. 563 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: He's just going to take some scissors to it. There's 564 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people who have been critical about the 565 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: historical integrity of the building, but that building has been 566 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: changing since the moment it was built. 567 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I look, the White House was built, the British 568 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: burned it down, we rebuilt. It has a change that 569 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: was a bit of a change. But I mean Nixon 570 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: put in a bowling alley and Barack Obama turned the 571 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 2: tennis courts into a basket. 572 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: He evolving, just as the country is. 573 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: It's always evolving in this idea that it has to 574 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: stay exactly the same. By the way, from all reports, 575 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: I've never been inside the White House, but from people 576 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: that have the East Wing, the part that they told 577 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: that tore down, it's an absolute dumb hadn't really been 578 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: touched or updated or anything since the sixties. It was 579 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: like the worst part of the White House and was 580 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: in need of a serious overhaul. And again, I love 581 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: the concept of a president that just doesn't let things 582 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: stand in his way. People try and throw up roadblocks, 583 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 2: The Democrats don't want it, Chuck Schumer comes out against it. 584 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: Nobody's going to pass a bill that funds it being 585 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: paid for by the American taxpayers. And Trump's just like, yeah, whatever, 586 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: I'll go find the money somewhere else. And by the way, 587 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: I already got the bulldozers in the parking lot. They're 588 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: ready to rock. 589 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: And roll, right, They're already tearing it down before anybody 590 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: even knows what's going on. 591 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 2: Hey, within like three days of it being announced. 592 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: Dot com it's the only one who knew. 593 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: We saw the footage within three days of this being announced, 594 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: these huge back hos just tearing down parts of the 595 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: White House. The guy's a man of action. I've talked 596 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: about this on the show before. What we've been doing 597 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: has not been working. In this country. So I don't 598 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 2: know if Trump is right on all this stuff. I 599 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 2: don't know if he's wrong on all this stuff, but 600 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: I'm willing to give him a shot to do something 601 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: different because what we've been doing hasn't been working. 602 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: Hey, speaking of what we've been doing not working, Mitch 603 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: McConnell checked himself into the hospital this after he experienced 604 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: flew like symptoms, although it was out of an abundance 605 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: of caution. The prognosis is he's going to pull through 606 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: eighty three years old, and he missed some Senate votes 607 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: on Monday and Tuesday of this week. They're reporting that 608 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: he stayed in contact with his staff the entire time, 609 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: and he's still at eighty three years old, might as 610 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: well be one hundred and eighty three looking forward to 611 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: resuming his Senate duties. 612 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it reminds me a lot about Diane Feinstein, who's 613 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: the Democrat well respected in a lot of areas, a 614 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: longtime Democrat senator out of California, and several years ago 615 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: she saw some terrible ailing health and was not on 616 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 2: the Senate floor for votes. She couldn't fulfill her duties 617 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: in leadership anymore, but. 618 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: She was continued to stay. 619 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: You know, and that they had her out. I remember 620 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 2: specifically photos of her, you know, in a wheelchair on 621 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: the floor of the Senate. And at some point in 622 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,239 Speaker 2: time and at least Mitch McConnell gave up his leadership role. Now, 623 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: unfortunately we replaced Mitch McConnell with John Thune his leadership 624 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: of the Republicans in the Senate. But there's no indication 625 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 2: at all that Mitch McConnell no longer wants to be 626 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 2: a member of the Senate despite all of these health 627 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: problems that he's say. 628 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: It does make you think about leadership transitions and also 629 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: generational change. It's happening in the military as well. There 630 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: are high ranking military who think that their subordinates can't 631 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: do the job without them, they have to stay. Meanwhile, 632 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: all they're doing is being the face of something, and 633 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: the subordinates are the ones who are doing the actual work, 634 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: just waiting and waiting, and yet the boss is never leaving. 635 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: And this is actually a much bigger problem in the 636 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: Democrat Party right now because you've got the youngsters, whether 637 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: it's AOC or the rest of the squad or some 638 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: of the other young people in the Democrat Party that 639 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: want to push out the Schumers and the Pelosis and 640 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 2: the old guard that have been doing it for forty 641 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 2: to fifty plus years, and they just have not had 642 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 2: the political power to push them aside yet. So it 643 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 2: happens in the Republican Party. Is a much bigger issue 644 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: in the Democrat Party. 645 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: Right now, you're listening to ninety three WIBC. How long 646 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: and how far can you go? 647 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: What are we talking about here? It depends my stamina 648 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 2: is through the roof? 649 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: How long can you swim? 650 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 2: How far hoard that swimming? Is that what we're talking about. 651 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here and claim that I'm 652 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: a you know, Michael Phelps level Olympic quality swimmer. But 653 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 2: I also don't do the doggy paddle. It's one step 654 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 2: above the doggy paddle. But it's it's okay, it's respectable. 655 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: I don't look like a fool out there. 656 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: Could you go four hours? 657 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: No? 658 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: Two and a half mile? 659 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: No, I couldn't do to two and a half miles. 660 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: That's what they swim before the iron Man triathlon. No, 661 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 2: I couldn't go. 662 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: That thirteen year old boy from Australia, he could maybe 663 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: try out for the triathlon because he did it. He 664 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: swam for four hours, two and a half miles, and 665 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: he was let me, let me rephrase that, what if 666 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: my life depended on it? Could you do with that? 667 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: Always that what this is? 668 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? 669 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 2: Was he trying to rescue somebody? 670 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 671 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,479 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. There's always been these stories 672 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 2: about people that hook out to do certain things. You've 673 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 2: heard these stories about, you know, a couple of people 674 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: able to lift a car off of somebody that's trapped 675 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 2: underneath it when that adrenaline hits. Hey, if one of 676 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 2: your family members or loved ones is in trouble, I 677 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 2: think the human body can accomplish things that you never 678 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: thought they could do before. 679 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: This kid's family they were out on kayaks and paddle 680 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: boards near Western Australia, and then some winds picked up 681 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: and the water pulled them out far from land. He 682 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: tried to rescue them, paddling a kayak, but it was 683 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: taken over by water, so he just abandoned it and 684 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: his life jacket, took off his life jacket and started 685 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: swimming out after them, and he finally got to him 686 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: and was able to get them to safety. He had 687 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: to swim back to shore and get help. I mean, 688 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: that's just incredible what he was able to do. 689 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 2: It's a great story because too often we hear stories 690 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: about this where a loved one's in trouble, whether it's 691 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: a riptide or some sort of issue in the water 692 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 2: like that, and somebody jumps in to try and save them, 693 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 2: and then both of them end up perishing. That tends 694 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 2: to be the story that we hear more often. So 695 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 2: great to hear a story that worked out like this. 696 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that if you've got a family 697 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: member or a loved one who's in trouble, whose life 698 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: is on the line, I think all of us would 699 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 2: would find a way to reach deeper than we ever 700 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 2: have before and do things that we thought weren't ever possible, 701 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 2: to do anything we can to save them. 702 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: And you're right, this does point out that this is 703 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 1: a nice story. I mean, we hear so much about 704 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: celebrity drama and politics and protests and what's going on. 705 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: This is just an unfiltered story about this guy, this kid, 706 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: thirteen year old boy, and his bravery to save his 707 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: loved ones who were in trouble. 708 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 2: And you know, in some ways, being young like that, 709 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 2: it probably doesn't even realize the danger that they're putting 710 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 2: themselves in. An adult would run those calculations in their 711 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 2: mind risk assessment is exactly and delay it. But there's 712 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 2: something to be said about youth and not being able 713 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 2: to register and comprehend the potential dangers that are in 714 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 2: front of you and just taking action and doing it anyway. 715 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: He just thought, my mom and siblings are in trouble. 716 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: I have to do something about it. 717 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 2: Great kid, hailed as a hero, as he should be, 718 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 2: and a good way to end today's show on a 719 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 2: kind of a pause of an uplifting story like that. 720 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, Jim, Thank you Kevin, thank you for listening. 721 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: This is ninety three WYBC