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Speaker 1: Joining us on the guest line. He is the radio

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Speaker 1: play by play voice of the Indianapolis Colts. He is

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Speaker 1: also the host of and I want to make sure

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Speaker 1: that I get the name right, Matt. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: go off the top of my head and then I

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Speaker 1: will allow you to correct me. Indiana Sports Trivia Night

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Speaker 1: at the Bulldog tonight. Did I get it close to that?

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Speaker 2: Nailed it?

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Speaker 3: I love the Bulldog, I like the trivia. I love

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Speaker 3: the Bulldog too. Perfect marriage tonight, right.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: This is our second time doing it up there. I

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Speaker 4: really good crowd. Hopefully we have an even better one

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Speaker 4: tonight with the weather kind of breaking and you can

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Speaker 2: So yeah, really excited about these.

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Speaker 4: We've been doing them since mid January, really since the

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Speaker 4: the March Madness Tournament. Rightfully, so, you know, most bar

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Speaker 4: so tonight's got nothing going on seven o'clock.

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Speaker 2: I've been broad rippled the Bulldog. This is your place.

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Speaker 1: The dumb question here, Matt, do you have to when

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Speaker 3: Then?

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Speaker 4: So I've I've been doing I've probably done like, I

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Speaker 4: don't know, ten eleven games so far, and each one's

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Speaker 4: been different. So I've got that many new games and

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Speaker 4: trying to find all the nooks and crannies of all

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Speaker 1: Let me before we get into the colts, let me

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Speaker 1: ask you one other question, because you said you've been

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Speaker 1: racking your brain. Now you are Matt. You know Alex

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Speaker 1: Wolf that I do IndyCar Radio with. You have something

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Speaker 1: pop culture, notably music, you go beyond the years you've

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Speaker 1: I'm going to assume and I'm making way more out

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Speaker 1: But I ain't stopping anytime soon on this. A week

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Speaker 1: the IndyCar longbe Trace, and I'm going to I met

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Speaker 1: And I made a custom T shirt to wear for

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Speaker 2: So it's got it's got Peter Brady's face on it.

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Speaker 4: Episode where Peter Brady says he's he's doing an impression

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So where does the Brady Bunch rink for you

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Speaker 2: You originally air on Saturday mornings.

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Speaker 1: Correct, Good morning, miss Bliss. And here's a fun fact

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Speaker 4: He did it all.

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Speaker 2: This this opportunity.

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Speaker 4: You've got two proven guys that are still very much

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Speaker 2: To the wire.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's a really important spot to make

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Speaker 1: When you look at last year, Matt Taylor's my guest

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Speaker 1: voice of the Colt seven o'clock tonight at the Bulldog.

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Speaker 3: Matt, Is that right?

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Speaker 2: That's correct?

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Speaker 1: Indiana Sports Tribute Tonight, seven o'clock at the Bulldog. Fifty

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Speaker 1: fourth in college. When you look at last year, two

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good question.

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Speaker 4: I don't mean to cop out on it, but it

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Speaker 2: As much run as possible.

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Speaker 4: And I just think you know a gun to head

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Speaker 4: right now answering that question, it's probably Wally because I

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Speaker 4: those seven games, it's just that you can never have

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Speaker 4: but I mean that that that corner group was just

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Speaker 4: They want to play you know, sort of back to front.

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Speaker 4: They want the secondary to kind of drive the ship

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Speaker 2: But he's just kind of in.

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Speaker 4: That crowded room, like I said, at strong safety with

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Speaker 4: He's going to see the field wherever they need and

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Speaker 1: All right, give me lastly one of your questions on

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Speaker 1: the way out that will be presented tonight at seven o'clock.

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Speaker 4: All right, So I'm not going to give a question

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you a previous question because I don't

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Speaker 2: So I'll just give you a couple here.

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Speaker 4: So I'll give you the tough ones because this is

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Speaker 4: gonna nail them all. But uh so, who's your sports cinema?

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Speaker 4: So movies that are you know, based on Indiana sports

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Speaker 4: if you will, So here you go, Jake, this is

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Speaker 4: kind of a tough one. And who's your sports cinema?

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Speaker 4: Which former IU men's basketball player played the character of

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Speaker 4: Ricky Rowe in Blue Chips in nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 1: Peter Brady that would be at center for Indiana. He's

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Speaker 1: a six to eight sophomore from Chester to Indy number

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Speaker 1: twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Matt Nover nice even got the Chuck Krab worked in there.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's right, seven o'clock tonight.

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Speaker 2: Now the game is missing. You know what's at I said,

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Speaker 2: that's what this game is missing.

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Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: If you do not make it over at seven o'clock

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Speaker 1: tonight at the Bulldog, then you know you might actually

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Speaker 1: run into me at the Bulldog this weekend perhaps, But

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Speaker 1: you need to be there tonight at seven o'clock for

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Speaker 1: Matt's trivia and if you want to see Matt after that,

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Speaker 1: April thirtieth, he will be at the golf outing at

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Speaker 1: benefiting Franciscan Health April thirtieth for the Fan Golf outing

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Speaker 1: in one of seventy five. Thefan dot com is where

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Speaker 1: you can buy your tickets. Are you a good golfer?

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Speaker 3: Matt?

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Speaker 2: I'll be there. Yeah, I'm one hundred percent in.

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Speaker 3: But are you a good golfer?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I'm sorry? Are you cut out there?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: I'm a terrible golfer, awful astrocious realistically.

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's be honest, we all are. I watch

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Speaker 3: The Masters this week and.

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Speaker 1: You're like, okay, listen, wait, it's not Augusta National, but

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Speaker 1: the Legends is close in terms of its beauty. But

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Speaker 1: we look forward to it and may see it tonight. Man,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it all right, Jake, thank good Man. Matt Taylor

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Speaker 1: joining us on the program. Yes, halfway through on this

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Speaker 1: interactive Thursday, Jack Querry along with Eddie Garrison. The name

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Speaker 1: of the show is Quarry and Company. We sent marketing

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Speaker 1: team out for quite some time before they could come

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Speaker 1: up with the name of that program, but that's what

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Speaker 1: we call it. And part of the company is Tom Deemhart,

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Speaker 1: who joins us now on the program and always welcome

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Speaker 1: back from Goldenblack dot com. As Purdue football has wrapped

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Speaker 1: up their springball and he has the column up right now.

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Speaker 1: The next chapter produes Ryan Brown, builds on QB one's

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Speaker 1: status as springball closes. And so what was that, Eddiem? Sorry,

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Speaker 1: at springball ending this weekend, I should say, so Ryan

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Speaker 1: Brown working out with the Boilers obviously and just trying

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Speaker 1: to find some footing. It would seem underneath them. Tom

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Speaker 1: first off, let's get to that. I appreciate you joining

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Speaker 1: us things that you've seen from the quarterbacking position in

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Speaker 1: this spring so far.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks Jack and Eddie for having me been a

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Speaker 5: productive spring for Ryan Brown. We talked to him early

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Speaker 5: on and you know, physically, he told us he's added

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Speaker 5: weight this year and I think that's been oonderfault, but

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Speaker 5: it really hasn't impacted his ability to move. So he's

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Speaker 5: throwing the ball real well, guys up and big key

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Speaker 5: for him, obviously is with that receiving corps that's been

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Speaker 5: to retooled. You know, last year there were just a

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Speaker 5: lot of drops, too many drops, too much in constituency there.

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Speaker 5: They're hopeful they got full quarter receivers coming and Jason

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Speaker 5: Kidd coming in. They've been flashing from that group to

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Speaker 5: the spring, so there's optimism. Then b Ryan Brown, guys,

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Speaker 5: and it's looked very sharp. It's kind of crazy. This

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Speaker 5: time last year he wasn't here. He was in North

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Speaker 5: Carolina playing for Bill Belichi that I can remember, and

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Speaker 5: of course he was rude back to Purdue and he's

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Speaker 5: really sort of solidifying himself as that QB one for

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Speaker 5: the ballermakers.

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Speaker 3: And you know, the reality is.

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Speaker 1: And when I think of Barry odom and I don't

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Speaker 1: know if this is even act reality or or the

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Speaker 1: strength of it, but when I think of him, and

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Speaker 1: I think certainly of what he had at UNLV, he

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Speaker 1: seemed like a coach that was very dedicated towards like

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Speaker 1: building within the trenches. You know Ryan Grigson, who obviously

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Speaker 1: has a pretty background, that was such an important part

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Speaker 1: of his football mantra was just you know, you gotta

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Speaker 1: be in the trenches. And I think most people feel

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Speaker 1: that way. So for Brown, it's about the offensive line

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Speaker 1: as well, and there are a couple of intriguing places there.

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Speaker 1: Am I correct in saying Tom that that Purdue is

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Speaker 1: looking for some real solid play or trying to find

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Speaker 1: some solidarity on the line.

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Speaker 3: How has it looked?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I tell you what, And you're right, Jake heart

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Speaker 5: smart and tough. That's that's that's very old him. And

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Speaker 5: make no mistake about it. He wants to run the football.

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Speaker 5: He wants to be tough and wants that to be

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Speaker 5: at I think the foundation of his offense. And you're right,

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Speaker 5: you got to you gotta be good up front. Then

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Speaker 5: you're doing that.

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Speaker 2: They're pretty leaky.

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Speaker 5: At times last year, like most positions on this team,

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Speaker 5: to hit the poor pretty hard. They got five spot

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Speaker 5: alignment that came in and so far is so good, right,

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Speaker 5: I think a couple I'm going to start for sure,

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Speaker 5: Boss Stanley at Santa from South Carolina in particular, and

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Speaker 5: the kids in the UAC. I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 5: one year in one year guards as well. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know, the line, like I said, has gotten bigger.

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Speaker 5: It looked a little bit more physical this spring as well.

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Speaker 5: So it's a starting point for a unit that really

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Speaker 5: needed to get buttoned up. It's important to note, though,

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Speaker 5: I think that the guy who's considered the best offensive

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Speaker 5: linement of the group really hasn't been full go all spring.

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Speaker 5: That's a Indianapolis kids with Zion's billet. Joey Tanona has

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Speaker 5: been out. He's been really limited. He's coming off his

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Speaker 5: shoulder surgery. They'll get him more back in the mix.

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Speaker 3: To his fault.

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Speaker 5: He could be a real anchor left tackle for the Boillmakers.

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Speaker 1: Was there any area of what they did, and I

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Speaker 1: know that from a results standpoint, it wasn't where Pridue

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Speaker 1: fans would like. Was there any area that you could

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Speaker 1: look towards and say that it offered surprising Glimmer that

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Speaker 1: they can build upon that maybe even was an area

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Speaker 1: of football play that you did not anticipate at the

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Speaker 1: beginning of the year.

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Speaker 5: Herryet Glimmer from last year. Actually, there's some individuals that

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Speaker 5: really stood out, and one of those guys is back

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Speaker 5: on defense. I think he's really going to be the

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Speaker 5: face of the defense or linebacker Charles Kore at number five.

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Speaker 5: He's made a real concern there for to get bigger

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Speaker 5: as well.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be the.

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Speaker 5: Guy I think that calls the defensive signals for Purdue

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Speaker 5: a real empty the bucket play to the echo the

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Speaker 5: whistle type of a linebacker. So and again he offered

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Speaker 5: to glimpses last year as well for a defense that

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Speaker 5: really guys, you know. The one of the biggest off

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Speaker 5: season storylines here was the return of Kevin Kane for

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Speaker 5: Kevin Kane Part two. As you recall, the reaction from

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Speaker 5: the fan basement it was announced he was going to

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Speaker 5: be the new DC was not overly receptive. But Kevin's

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Speaker 5: back to run the defense. This time it'll be more.

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Speaker 5: It'll be more his defense, of course, and he worked

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Speaker 5: on the Ryan Walters before and Kevin I think I

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Speaker 5: had a chance to have some success and they read

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Speaker 5: two events out of the ball with a lot of

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Speaker 5: quarter guys just like to get on the offensive side

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Speaker 5: of the ball too.

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Speaker 1: Tom Deanhardt is my guest. Go to black dot com

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Speaker 1: where you can read his work talking about Purdue football

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Speaker 1: and spring ball, which is underway right now up in

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Speaker 1: West Lafayette. Tom, you know, if you look at let's

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Speaker 1: just say, last year's college football playoff, okay, you had

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Indiana, Miami, Ohio State certainly comes to mind,

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech coming Texas Tech was very good defensively. But

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Speaker 1: the one thing that I look at at all of

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Speaker 1: those teams that they have in common, even if stylistically

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Speaker 1: they want to play different ways, all of those teams

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Speaker 1: had speed. They had either whether it be edge speed defensively,

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Speaker 1: whether it be open space speed with their offensive talent

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Speaker 1: and their skill players. I mean, for Indiana, even at

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position, they had speed. Can you win realistically

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Speaker 1: in today's college football? I'm not saying by not having speed,

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Speaker 1: but can you really grind down and out tough people

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Speaker 1: or do you need flat out athletes.

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Speaker 5: Need athletes, I mean difference makers. You know, when we

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Speaker 5: look at football games, look at football stats, they always say, well,

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Speaker 5: what are the stats that usually indicator's going to win

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Speaker 5: a ball game? And people look at rushing yards, people

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Speaker 5: look at turnover margin, but a lot of people look

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Speaker 5: at big plays, offensive explosive plays, those twenty plus yard

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Speaker 5: chunk plays. Obviously you need to have speed and athleticism

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Speaker 5: have those big chunk plays because you can't ask your

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Speaker 5: offense to score on ten or eleven twelve play drives

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Speaker 5: all the time without having some flaw in their exte

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Speaker 5: So you know, you know, look previous for new it's

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Speaker 5: never going to be filled with elite athletes across the board.

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Speaker 5: They may have guys sprinkled here and there, and that

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Speaker 5: could be elite big planmakers, but they're never going to

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Speaker 5: have a roster and it's filled with guys the Oklado's

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Speaker 5: playoff team.

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Speaker 2: You talked about Jake there.

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Speaker 5: So again, Gerry, I'm going to try to do it

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Speaker 5: his way, and I think he's still one a lot

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Speaker 5: of football games. If you just don't be here. So

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Speaker 5: if you play hard, smart and tough, like he likes

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Speaker 5: to always say as an answer, So the challenge is

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Speaker 5: there guys in the schedule this year based offers in

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Speaker 5: a little bit of release and then that brutal Marsie

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Speaker 5: had last year to try to navigate through.

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Speaker 1: Tom, when you look at this particular group, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, look the we know the reality of college

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Speaker 1: football today, okay, and the portal and then and I

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Speaker 1: don't know, Tom, and I know you don't either.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm saying it rhetorically.

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Speaker 1: You know, when when this vastly spinning carousel of money

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Speaker 1: and transfers and kids hopping from one to the next,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know when it slows down or

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Speaker 1: finally somebody just pukes on it and they got to

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Speaker 1: bring out the sawdust and stop it. I don't know

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Speaker 1: where it's all going, but for right now, it's the reality.

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Speaker 1: Does Purdue have the nil collective budget to be able

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Speaker 1: to compete or even elevate to the next level that

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Speaker 1: they want to be in.

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Speaker 5: Well, and tell you what Barry Autum always tells us,

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Speaker 5: and he's done along numerous times that you know, paraphrasing there,

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Speaker 5: but his bosses have given him everything he needs to

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Speaker 5: be competitive. And that's that's collective wise. And also obviously

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Speaker 5: a revenue sharing wise, so he feels very confident that

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Speaker 5: he has the resources needed to.

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Speaker 3: Build a competitive roster.

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Speaker 2: So you know, time will tell.

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Speaker 5: I always have to think it's going to be Goose

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Speaker 5: schools in the at Big ten that are going to

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Speaker 5: be more well in doubt from an anil standpoint, the

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Speaker 5: blue bloods, if you will, But I'd like to think

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Speaker 5: put his own part with its peer programs in Michigan States,

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Speaker 5: the Minnesota's, the Rutgers, the Maryland's, the schools of Addiyoak

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Speaker 5: and communities competitive. So yeah, he tells us he hasn't

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Speaker 5: have any needs, so we never get to actions shoot

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Speaker 5: the numbers and whatnot. But it doesn't as a peer

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Speaker 5: guy that they have brought in a little higher quality

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Speaker 5: of players through the portal this year during Barry hiltms

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Speaker 5: Mate and Maiden Boys here last season, was.

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Speaker 1: There a particular area of the roster that it seemed

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Speaker 1: that they most bolstered through the portal.

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Speaker 5: There were two. One was the offensive line I mentioned

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Speaker 5: the five portal transfers they brought in there, and the

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Speaker 5: other is the secondary guys. Six portal players came in

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Speaker 5: via the second from the secondary from the portal In

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Speaker 5: addition to those six portal defensive backs, they also brought

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Speaker 5: into junior college safety, so that's eight new players total

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Speaker 5: for the secondary. So really it was the secondary in

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Speaker 5: the offensive line that saw the bulk of the portal activity.

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Speaker 5: Four portal wide receivers, three portal running backs guys, and

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Speaker 5: then that's the position. There's a lot of people in

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Speaker 5: west Lock get intrigued. I mentioned Barry Jordam's desire to

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Speaker 5: want to run the football. Well, I talked about the

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Speaker 5: portal lining my three portal running backs that they look

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Speaker 5: very promising. The kids from Texas, I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 5: he looks good. And then they got a little kid

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Speaker 5: from Jackson State and five for seven sort of mighty

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Speaker 5: money if you was really going to help in your

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Speaker 5: turn game, I think as well. And then a kid

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Speaker 5: from Minnesota who may be the number one running back

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Speaker 5: this year. So that spot really looks like it's been

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Speaker 5: enhanced to the portal and could be a real factor

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Speaker 5: and prove being as physical as it wants to be

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Speaker 5: on Hopkins this year.

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Speaker 1: Gold to Black dot com will have all of the

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Speaker 1: coverage for Purdue football as they continue springball over the

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Speaker 1: course of the weekend and then before we know it,

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Speaker 1: it will be here. In terms of getting set for

660
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Speaker 1: another year of the Big Ten. Tom, appreciate the time

661
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Speaker 1: as always, look forward to having you back on.

662
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Speaker 5: Thank you, Jake and Andy take care of fellows.

663
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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Tom Deanhardt joining us from Gold and Black. Yes,

664
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Speaker 1: Tony East joining us on.

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Speaker 6: The pro social media? Are they or are they refreshing?

666
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: What's that?

667
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 6: What social media? Are they refreshing?

668
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 3: The expost Twitter or the Instagram, TikTok?

669
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 6: Now my Space? What account? The querying company account? Your account, Mike?

670
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 6: What account of the.

671
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 3: Famin probably Querry Underscore company?

672
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: Where right now you have the survey on how much

673
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: people will watch of the Masters, because that will retweet

674
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Speaker 1: my own which is at Jake Query.

675
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the ex post Twitter.

676
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 7: Uh huh.

677
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Speaker 1: I don't know if anywhere on those you have the

678
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: injury report listed. But let's bring Tony in and then

679
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: you guys can. Tony probably knows the injury report, so

680
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let him. Tony, We're not gonna let

681
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: you cheat on this. I'm going to try to guess

682
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Speaker 1: who's in and who's out for tonight. You're ready, Tony?

683
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: Yes?

684
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 7: All right, you got this, It'll be you get You'll

685
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 7: nail it.

686
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 3: How many players are out Eddie.

687
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 6: One, two, three, four, five, six.

688
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: Seven, seven from the picture, but we're not counting Johnny

689
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: Furfey and Tyre's halliburt That.

690
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 6: Was in total, not counting Furfee, not counting Tyrese, not counting,

691
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 6: not counting zubots four four.

692
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 3: Okay, then this is pretty easy. I'm gonna go with

693
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Speaker 3: TJ McConnell.

694
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 6: Yep, with bilateral hamstring injury management.

695
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: Okay, and you know I hate when those ham strings

696
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: need to be managed. You know what I mean. I'm

697
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: not a great man. Yeah, that's right. Okay. Uh so

698
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: t J McConnell, I'm gonna go also that aaron Ne

699
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: Smith is out.

700
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, with a cervical strain.

701
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 7: Oh man, yeah, I.

702
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: Again, I think the cervical I think of a different area.

703
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: But anyway, okay, so that's Nie Smith. I will say

704
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: that Andrew, did I send nim Hard already?

705
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 6: He is also out? You are correct with thoracic and

706
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 6: lumbar injury management.

707
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: The thoracic part two, I mean that's that bugs right?

708
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

709
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: Okay, and then let's see one more here is it obvious?

710
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 3: Am I missing an obvious one?

711
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes.

712
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: Hold on, but we've Pascal Siaka.

713
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 6: Left ankle strain.

714
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: Will not play tonight, he won't play the rest of

715
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 3: the year. Right, I doubt it.

716
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 6: Ben Sheppard with a right hip strain, questionable, um and

717
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 6: Jarris Walker with the sacral contusion.

718
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: Question sacral contusion? Right, Tony.

719
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: Just so you know, Eddie actually erroneously called that the

720
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: sacral contusion last the other day and I did a

721
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Speaker 1: penguin walk for two days as a result of just

722
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Speaker 1: the thought of it. Okay, located in the cocxicks by

723
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: the way, Kebby Brown coaxes Keby Brown questionable with the

724
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: lumbar sprain. Okay, you know they ought to go to

725
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: the lumbar store. It sounds like him get some more

726
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: because things aren't going well. Tony bought or excuse me?

727
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: Brooklyn also is in a situation where I mean, I

728
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: would anticipate they are all dogs off at this point,

729
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: although maybe theirs isn't his diar because it's not a

730
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: protected pick so to speak.

731
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: That of where they are. But is this going to

732
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: be a G League game tonight?

733
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Well, it's actually funny you say that because

734
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 7: the Pacers pick be protected is ironically it makes the

735
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 7: Nets need to lose even more because the Nets they

736
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 7: have a floor. Right, if they have the second worst record,

737
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 7: the farthest they can fall at six. If they're the

738
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 7: third worst record, they can farthest they can fall a seven, right,

739
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 7: So they really want to be as low as they

740
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 7: can get. And they just stumbled into wins against the

741
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 7: Wizards in the Bucks, like they're one win out of

742
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 7: fourth now, so they the Pacers want to lose because

743
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 7: one more loss clinch is them the best odds, and

744
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 7: then they don't really care the floor to the matter

745
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 7: to them. The Nets want to lose so bad. Their

746
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 7: injury report is very long. If you had named all

747
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 7: those players, I would have been extremely impressed.

748
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: The okay, so they can win. Bottom line is this

749
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 3: Holy crap, Tony, you're not kidding.

750
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 7: I told you it's insane. It's unbelievable. I mean it's

751
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 7: it's very believable. But it's it's not.

752
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 6: Ten players out tonight.

753
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's eighteen players on the team.

754
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: By the way, Tony, just out of curiosity, are you

755
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: going to Brooklyn?

756
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 7: No?

757
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: No, because I have a feeling. I mean like Jeremiah

758
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: Johnson and playing JJ might might be able to get

759
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: himself on the floor, right.

760
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: Why not?

761
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 7: I'm a I bet Jaydacon play.

762
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

763
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: I mean here's the thing though, I mean, you would

764
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: think JJ's from Peru, Indiana and small. I mean Kyle

765
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: Macy so like everybody plays basketball there, right, But he

766
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: was in that kid's circus and then he was a mascot,

767
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: So I mean, how much how good can the jumper be?

768
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 3: Right?

769
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean he don't get me wrong. I think it's

770
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: impressive that he used to bounce his buddies around on

771
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: his hamstrings. But but you know, I mean how much

772
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: jumper can there be there?

773
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 3: Right?

774
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 6: What about the Walmass champ Christenari?

775
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: Now, Denary can shoot. Denary can shoot. If you ask

776
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: Denary about the days that he used to shoot, it's cool.

777
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: But then you've got to hear the other seventeen places

778
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: he's worked. But he can shoot, no question about.

779
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 3: It, Tony.

780
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: So tonight, the bottom line is this Indiana. Though, if

781
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: they were, let's say, to win tonight, it doesn't matter

782
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: so long as they simply lose one of these last games, right.

783
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 7: Exactly right? They lose one more time, and any of

784
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 7: the last three, their odds are locked up at fifty

785
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 7: two point one percent chance to keep the pick. If

786
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 7: they win all three, their odds can drop as far

787
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 7: as forty seven percent. So it's not a huge stake,

788
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 7: but I mean, after the trade they make, they have

789
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 7: to they have to try the best to make the

790
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 7: odds as good as possible.

791
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that we've learned here

792
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: is that teams don't want to be in this situation

793
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: for two reasons. Number one, it would mean it's because

794
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: it means your season has obviously been a disappointment. But

795
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: number two, it's got to be exhausting to effectively tank

796
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: while still being viable, right.

797
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 7: It is, And I don't know the viable is a

798
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 7: good word. I suppose, like it's hard to really work.

799
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: Okay, let me rephrase that.

800
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: Let me rephrase that it's not be exhausting to effectively

801
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: tank while still be convincing.

802
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, and like telling yourself, like you know, what

803
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 7: are you getting out of these games? Is hard to

804
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 7: perfectly figure out because everybody knows, I mean everybody knows,

805
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 7: even the players know, Like the wins and losses don't matter, right,

806
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 7: So how do you get them up for, you know,

807
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 7: putting their best before all time. That's why I honestly,

808
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 7: the three wins they had in five games last week

809
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 7: was very impressive to me. Like they were going for it.

810
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 7: They looked good. It looked a little bit like the

811
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 7: team that everybody thought would be around this year. It's like, yeah,

812
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 7: in this exact situation where these games do not matter,

813
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 7: to be able to show that kind of effort was

814
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 7: legitimately impressive to me.

815
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: The announcement yesterday from Tyrese Haliburton that he has played

816
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: five on five for the first time.

817
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: I believe he did that yesterday. Do we read into that?

818
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 7: Uh No, I mean, I think this is about the

819
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 7: time I you'd expect maybe slightly. I don't know, I'd

820
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 7: be guessing completely. I'm just going off of the guys

821
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 7: who have returned somewhat recently. But you know, roughly, this

822
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 7: is ten months ish, right, so not a crazy fart

823
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 7: time off of what we have known from other guys.

824
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 7: Tatum was returning to the floor about then, John tim

825
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 7: Murray was just starting his five on five about then.

826
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 7: But neither of them got shingled in the middle of

827
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 7: their recovery. So probably a different timeline for Halbert and

828
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 7: than some other guys.

829
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wonder too, just you know how much

830
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: we can look at that and kind of eye roll

831
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: and say, well, he might have been playing at lifetime fitness.

832
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: I mean, how good. I mean, I know that wasn't

833
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 3: the case.

834
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: But any movement at all that is going to simulate

835
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: the movement that he would have in an actual NBA

836
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: game is important psychologically more than the strengthening of it.

837
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: Does that make sense, Tony?

838
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 7: Yes, one hundred percent, that's true, right, And like, just

839
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 7: to test it again, because you hear from all these

840
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 7: guys who go through significant injuries, like the first games

841
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 7: they come back, they're not like scared isn't the right word,

842
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 7: but they're you know, they have to remember what it's

843
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 7: like to jump, you know, and do all these motions

844
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 7: that they used to just so naturally do and now

845
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 7: they don't like trust their body necessarily or anything. You know,

846
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 7: every athlete ever will tell you that, yeah, you can

847
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 7: practice all you want, you can take physicality all you

848
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 7: want to practice, setting, there's nothing like a game, and

849
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 7: there's nothing like the other team actively trying to prevent

850
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 7: you from doing any thing you're trying to do. It's

851
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 7: so different. So it is a big step. It's not

852
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 7: the final step, but of course it's like the biggest

853
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 7: ships of the season that he is so far trended

854
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 7: correctly with no non shingles related setbacks, no Achilles setbacks.

855
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 7: How about that?

856
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: You know what we haven't done in a while, Tony,

857
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: and this is in I've a lot of people, their

858
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: kids want to come down and participate in this, so

859
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm giving you the opportunity to do so right now.

860
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: And that is we have not done in a couple

861
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: of days. Here the NBA Draft Tankathon, where I do

862
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: the simulator and it then tells us what position the

863
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: Pacers pick. And then what's really fun is you get

864
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: to be the one to announce the players. So, in

865
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: other words, what we're doing here is I'm going to

866
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: show the odds of where the Pacers could land. Then

867
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 1: once we find out what number they are selecting, Eddie

868
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: will play the little jingle. I will set it up,

869
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: and then you announced the name of the player you

870
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: believe the Pacers would select if they were drafting in

871
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 1: that position.

872
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: You got it, Okay, Yeah, here we go, Here we go.

873
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to Eddie, you let me know when you've

874
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: got the I've got the ping pong balls going here, okay.

875
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: And with the first pick in the twenty twenty six

876
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: NBA Mock Draft Tankathon, the Indiana Pacers select.

877
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Speaker 7: B Yu forward aj De Bonsa Jake. Both times I've

878
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 7: been on for this exercise, they've gotten the first one.

879
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: You've done this exercise before, Yes.

880
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 7: And I messed it up? Oh well, I said who

881
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 7: would I pick? Or who would the Pacers pick? And

882
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 7: then you redid the span and then it was a

883
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 7: fistick And then.

884
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 3: I'm sorry I was.

885
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: I was singing that happened with Agnes because more often

886
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: than not, he's the one that screws stuff up.

887
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 7: Right, No, I'm the I'm the screw upper. Don't worry. Yeah,

888
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 7: I mean, look I have I'll start watching these guys

889
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 7: in full detail in the NBA is done. Doone. But

890
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 7: I mean, everybody I've talked to who watches a lot

891
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 7: of college or scouts thinks that aj should go number

892
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 7: one and is the best prospect in this class. And

893
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 7: you know, or at least his upside is the highest.

894
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 7: Boozer seems very good numerically and on paper and Peterson

895
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 7: seems awesome too, but you know, everybody has questions about

896
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 7: what he is and Wilson's obviously tremendous too. So we'll

897
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 7: see where the Pacers would end up ranking them or

898
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 7: what they would care about. But yeah, it seems like

899
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 7: a j would be number one, you know.

900
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: I just by the way, I just did one more

901
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: of them out of curiosity and had Milwaukee landing number one.

902
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: With a pick they acquired via Atlanta. I believe.

903
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: You know, Tony. One thing we haven't talked about. Hypothetically,

904
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: the Pacers are going to end up with a top

905
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: four pick. We all know that if it is not

906
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: in the top four, they lose the pick and it

907
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: then goes to the Clippers. Is there a player currently

908
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: on the Pacers roster who, if you put truth serum

909
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: in them, would tell you that deep down they kind

910
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: of I hope the pick goes to the Clippers because

911
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: that spot would be one that would be mean more

912
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: minutes and more reps for them next year.

913
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's two who are probably in that mix. That's

914
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 7: Ben Shepherd and Jaris Walker, who you know, I think

915
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 7: we can all assuming, I mean, they can make any

916
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 7: sort of changes in the offseason, right, So there's all

917
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 7: sorts of who knows about the actual team. But if

918
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 7: the starters are what everybody projects of, you know, Halliburton

919
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 7: and mem Hardenie Smith, Siakam and the Zubats and the

920
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 7: benches as it's been with McConnell and Toppin and whoever

921
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 7: their backup center happens to be next season, then there's

922
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 7: you know, a couple spots in the middle there that

923
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 7: would be a draft pick, Shepherd Walker like competing for

924
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 7: two spots, and who knows what else could be in

925
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 7: the mix for those kind of reserve roles. So you

926
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 7: know there's not gonna be if they actually keep the pick,

927
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 7: there's not gonna be minutes for both of those guys.

928
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 7: And you know, Walker has had a great year. I

929
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 7: think he's kind of shown what they hoped he would

930
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 7: show for a while. But Shepherd's been like in the

931
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 7: rotation in the postseason before. They've seen him do it

932
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 7: on important stages, so I don't think it'd be easy

933
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 7: to just shoot him to the side and say, nope,

934
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 7: you're not playing. So those are the two that I

935
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 7: think would benefit the most in terms of their outlook

936
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 7: for next year. Should the Pacers lose it. But you know,

937
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 7: there's also financial considerations for those guys that would be

938
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 7: not be good for them. I think the Pacers would,

939
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 7: if they got the first pick, for example, be over

940
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 7: the first apron. I don't think they'd like to stay there.

941
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 7: So those mid size salary guys who are in their

942
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 7: fourth year there after being a first round pick would

943
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 7: be certainly not necessarily on the move right away, but

944
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 7: a consideration to not be a part of the mix

945
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 7: for the Pacers next year.

946
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: If I look, and we have talked about Tony East

947
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: is my guest here. We've talked Tony about you know,

948
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: certain players that have really taken advantage of the situation

949
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: here and I think work themselves into real consideration to

950
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: being part of maybe a second or third, but part

951
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: of our rotation for Indiana next year. Michah Potter comes

952
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: to mind, for example, right I like what he's done.

953
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: I think he's he's a really intriguing player for them

954
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: if they were too. For example, like right now, as

955
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: the roster stands, if you add a draft pick, who

956
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: then how many then how many roster spots would they

957
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: have to eliminate by next season?

958
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 7: I mean they it could be they're just done. Like it,

959
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 7: their only guaranteed free agent is Kobe Brown, like Micah

960
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 7: Potter has an option. Cam Jones and Quinton Jackson have

961
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 7: a contract that's not fully guaranteed, and that's and then

962
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 7: Kobe Browns are bridged. That's it. So like it's possible.

963
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 7: I don't think this will happen, but it's possible. Their

964
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 7: offseason as simple as they keep their pick, they draft somebody,

965
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 7: and Kobe Brown's on the team and that's it, and

966
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 7: then Potter's their back a five, and Cam Jones is

967
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 7: there another development project and Quinton Jackson is their third

968
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 7: string one and that's it. I think financially they might

969
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 7: make more changes than that, depending on where the thick lands.

970
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 7: But you know, all these guys are auditioning for that reality, right,

971
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 7: Like it's possible that they just are in the exact

972
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 7: same role next year. If they play well enough. They

973
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 7: have to prove that they deserve that spot. So that's

974
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 7: what these games have been about for them. But yeah,

975
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 7: that's that's certainly possible. I mean, Potter produces on offense

976
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 7: like every game he plays, so uh, it's certainly one

977
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 7: of the more intriguing guys. These last three still.

978
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: Well okay, so let me let me throw you three

979
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: names and you tell me if it means if I

980
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: understand this correctly, that all three would be out if

981
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: they have let's say, if Debonsa is on their roster

982
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: next year, right, uh, Cam Jones, Ethan Thompson, tail on Peter.

983
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, the two ways are hard to predict. With Thompson

984
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 7: and Peter. I mean that Thompson has had two nice

985
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 7: games in the last week, but you know they don't

986
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 7: have a second rounder, so any any two way they'd

987
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 7: add would be an undrafted guy. And you wonder if

988
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 7: they're trying to win next year if they care about

989
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 7: that player potentially like being like Thompson and being able

990
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 7: to produce a time. So it's possible, especially with Peter,

991
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 7: who they drafted last year. I mean, they could just

992
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 7: keep all their two ways going into next year. Slosson

993
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 7: has been pretty good these last couple of games. As

994
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 7: for Cam Jones, he's kind of one of the biggest

995
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 7: TVDS of the offseason to me, I mean, what have

996
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 7: they seen from him that suggested they like, absolutely have

997
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 7: to give him another chance? Now he was hurt to

998
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 7: start the he was hurt to start the year right,

999
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 7: and didn't play until they were a twenty ninth game

1000
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 7: or whatever, right, so he got off to a slower start,

1001
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 7: and then you know, they were going for it till

1002
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 7: let's say the trade deadline or off star break or whatever,

1003
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 7: and then he didn't play in that little march push

1004
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 7: when they were going to end. There. They're losing streaks,

1005
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 7: so every time they've been trying to win, he hasn't

1006
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 7: figured at all, and then he's kind of hit and

1007
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 7: miss when he does play, so he doesn't figure to

1008
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 7: matter in terms of like when they're trying to win

1009
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 7: next year, and they're going to be trying to win

1010
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 7: next year. So do they won him as a development project?

1011
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 7: Do they believe that he's actually going to be good?

1012
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 7: You know, he's already almost twenty five, Like I wonder

1013
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 7: about him, But the savings they would get by cutting

1014
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 7: him aren't that high. Perhaps a trade candidate, perhaps a

1015
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 7: pushback is guaranteed at when he looks like in summer

1016
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 7: league candidate. But I don't really know with him, if

1017
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 7: they'd value like another veteran guard in case McConnell's heard

1018
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 7: a lot, or they don't trust Jackson next year. For example.

1019
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: I thought you raised an interesting point a few games

1020
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: ago though with Cam Jones, where if he had appeared

1021
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: in a certain number of games, then his contract was

1022
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: to be guaranteed, and seemingly they have kind of pulled

1023
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: the reins in back on him.

1024
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, he didn't.

1025
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 7: He's not gonna. He already didn't meet that number. It

1026
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 7: was forty one. Uh and he won't get there. So

1027
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 7: you know, I don't think that they did that just

1028
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 7: to not guarantee his contract. I think they just preferred

1029
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 7: other point guard options in the games with him obviously

1030
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 7: missing so many games to start the season matter. But

1031
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 7: you know, I'll be curious if that wasn't the thinking,

1032
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 7: because waving him they would save some money, but it's

1033
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 7: a really small amount. It's not like they could do

1034
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 7: a lot with him. But with how close they might

1035
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 7: be to some of these spending threshold, like, every dollar

1036
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 7: is gonna matter. So I'll be I'll be fascinated to

1037
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 7: see what they think of him, because they have to

1038
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 7: now he is guaranteed DS in June, it's still before

1039
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 7: free agency. If he doesn't want to push it, a

1040
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 7: guaranteed DA back or they can't find a solution like

1041
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 7: he might just he might be searching for a job.

1042
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 7: Who knows?

1043
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: Did Where do things stand now, Tony East? Is my

1044
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: guess before we let you go, Tony, just because the

1045
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: things are now looking clearer, we're getting a better idea

1046
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: of where things stand for the Fever in terms of

1047
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, I obviously you had the whole CBA thing

1048
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: in the off season. Now the roster coming into formation

1049
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: as well, we understand more clearly now about the fever

1050
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: and how they're going to look in what way versus

1051
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: how we saw it say, two weeks ago.

1052
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 7: Ironically, very little is known compared to what was known

1053
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 7: two weeks ago. I mean, I think the fact that

1054
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 7: they officially did what was expected with Lexi Hall and

1055
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 7: Kelsey Mitchell and you know, gave them their option or

1056
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,959
Speaker 7: their their qualifying offers for free agencies. Who I would

1057
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 7: expect that both of them will be back. Not a guarantee, right,

1058
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 7: you could still sign and trade anybody, but I mean,

1059
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 7: Kaylin Clark said that Kelsey Mitchell should be their number

1060
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 7: one priority. I would expect that they would try to

1061
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 7: do that. And then the only thing they got clarity

1062
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 7: on is the specific salary amounts for Leah Boston and

1063
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 7: Kayln Clark this season because everybody had to have their

1064
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 7: money jumped up, and Mikayla Timpson for that matter, but

1065
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 7: everybody has an absolute just ton of cap space, right

1066
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 7: and there's I think there's gonna be a I thought

1067
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 7: I wondered if teams would just kind of stay status

1068
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 7: quo for one more year and then everything would be

1069
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 7: crazy next year because everybody moving at the same time

1070
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 7: is just complicated. But it seems like, you know, there's

1071
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 7: already been some movement and reports of you know, meetings

1072
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 7: of that nature, like they could they have enough money

1073
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 7: to sign a max player, right. So it's interesting to

1074
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 7: me that this is the last year with both Boston

1075
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 7: and Clark on rookie scale deals to really make a

1076
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 7: huge swing and have a ton of space that'll get

1077
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 7: chipped into next year. So I expect them to at

1078
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 7: least look hard at the star market and see what

1079
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 7: they can get and try to build the best team possible.

1080
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 7: But as of now, not a lot has structurally changed

1081
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 7: as of this moment. But I think over the weekend

1082
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 7: you'll see a lot of signings.

1083
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: Okay, leading score tonight for Indiana go.

1084
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 7: I will say Ethan Thompson again.

1085
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 6: Okay, Eddie here pick, I will go Michael Potter, that's solid.

1086
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 7: Good guess.

1087
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: Boy.

1088
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I'm feeling a little bit of a

1089
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: Jay Huff vibe.

1090
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 3: But it feels like.

1091
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Speaker 1: This is one of those games where we get the

1092
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: spontaneous nineteen point eight board game from Jaris Walker.

1093
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 7: You know, after his return game was filled with turnovers.

1094
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 7: That would be a good sign to see from him

1095
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Speaker 7: as well.

1096
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Speaker 3: That's my that's my guess. We'll see what happens.

1097
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Speaker 1: But Tony, I know you'll have it all covered locked

1098
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: on pacers as well as well as Forbes WTCHR we

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00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: can read all of it. Appreciate the time as always,

1100
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Speaker 1: and thank you for participating in the Tankathon game.

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Speaker 7: I hope I did it right this time.

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00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 3: Thanks did Yeah? I forgot that you did? You know

1103
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 3: I've slept since then, Eddie, right.

1104
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 7: Agnes, You're right, it was Agnes.

1105
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, it was Agnes. That's took me a second.

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Speaker 3: See I told you, I Slepstence said