1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:06,039 Speaker 1: Okay, So we got to play some of this audio 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: from the Lieutenant Governor with Hammer and Nigel yesterday because 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: they did a phenomenal job interviewing him and they got 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff on the record that is just 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: it's it's fascinating. Its Kennel Case Show. I'm Rob Casey's here, 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: all right, So I'm going to say this because like 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: in Casey, you know this, You've been around me for 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: a long time. When I get information, do I just 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: run out and tell everybody about it? When we get 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: I get stories, do I just immediately throw them up 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: on social media? Do I run on these air waves? 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: Or do I spend a lot of time verifying sources? 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: Like let's take the Bohachik Mike Bohachik, the state senator 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: who is alleged to have blown the point two eighty 15 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: three and the dui charges and all that stuff. Right, 16 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 1: you knew about that for quite a while. How long 17 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: did I sit on that and get things confirmed before 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: I ran out with it? It was a while, right, Yeah. 19 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: Same thing with the Beau Baird story, the state rep 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: from Putnam County who bo Baird had the OWI in 21 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: whatever that was twenty seventeen or eighteen, and nobody knew 22 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: about it, and he didn't disclose it because conveniently, some 23 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: wrong things were entered into the public record. Right. How 24 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: long did I sit on that before I verified sources 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: to get it right? 26 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a while, And that happens with a 27 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: lot of this stuff. 28 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: It takes a while, yeah, for all of the information 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: to be released. And that's why over the nine years 30 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: that I've been here, when I come out with stuff, 31 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: when I break news, when I say things, that's what 32 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: the like, how can you think of a time on 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: a big story where I've run out with something now 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: where I've been like, didn't go through this process right 35 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: to verify, to painstakingly independently of multiple sources, right, get 36 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: information before I brought it out. So I can say 37 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: safely that there is a grand jury that is looking 38 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: into Micah's office, there is an investigation going on related 39 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 1: to that. I can safely say it is more than 40 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: just artificial intelligence pornography. The investigation is bigger than that. 41 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: And one of the things that is very frustrating is 42 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: that I struggle to see how if I know that's 43 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: going on as a total outsider to the State House. 44 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: As a total outsider to Indiana politics and government, I 45 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: really struggled to see how Micah himself, with three and 46 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: a half million dollars worth of staff at his disposal, 47 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: couldn't also know that was going on. And yet yesterday 48 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: on Hammer Nigs, when we will play you some of 49 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: these clips here, he appears to vehemently deny any of 50 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: this is taking plasure or having knowledge that it's taking place. 51 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: And the thing that really gets me is the first 52 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: person to talk about a grand jury wasn't me, wasn't Abdul, 53 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: wasn't tom Lo Bianco. It was the husband of Micah's 54 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: chief of staff that was the first guy to stooge 55 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: out that apparently there was a grand jury because he 56 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: used the phrase grand jury on his social media account. Now, 57 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: this guy then proceeded to go at Hammer, and we've 58 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: covered their feed back and forth, and Hammer addressed this 59 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: yesterday with Micah, let's take a little listen to this. 60 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: It's a lot of questions, a lot of rumors about 61 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: what's going on in your office. There was this story 62 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: of an AI video that was being shared in your office. 63 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: And then the husband of your chief of staff, this 64 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: moron goes on social media rips WIBC and saying that 65 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: we're all bought by Soros. And you know, I get 66 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: if there's a beef with other members of our station here, 67 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: but when this idiot starts bringing me into this thing, 68 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: that's where. 69 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: I got a problem. 70 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: Micah, he's the one that said there was a grand 71 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: jury involved. May have been an accident, but he put 72 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: it out on social media. So the million dollar question 73 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: is is there a grand jury looking into activities from 74 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: your office? 75 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: No, we haven't heard that. And listen, Okay, Stu, he's 76 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: a friend, but he's not part of our office. Okay. 77 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: Sherry's doing a great job. 78 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: He's a moron, Nikah, and we know each other well enough. 79 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: I can say he's embarrassing his wife. 80 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: Okay. So we're led to believe then that the husband 81 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: of Micah's chief of staff. Oh yeah, he does technically 82 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: work for the office, but he just made up the 83 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: phrase grand jury that he just pulled that out of 84 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: his backside, and he would do that to his wife 85 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: and Damiicah, who's a close friend of his, and everybody 86 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: else without it being true. That's what we're led to 87 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: believe has happened. Here in the dismissive way in which 88 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: he just pushed that, pushed that aside. 89 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 2: All right. 90 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: So they went on then to ask him a little 91 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: bit more about the AI porn side of things. And 92 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: I want to play that audio clip and respond to it. 93 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: Take a listen, Micah, you said your office did like 94 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: an internal investigation of this whole saga here, and I've 95 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: said on the air, look, I don't know if the 96 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: video exists. 97 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. 98 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: I have no idea, But if I heard Joe hogg 99 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: set say we've done an investigation and everything's fine, I'd 100 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: have a hard time with that. Are you open to 101 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: having somebody else like do an investigation. 102 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: If they can actually give me a shred of evidence 103 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 3: this thing actually exists. I'm not just going to let 104 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: these abduls drag our office into these types of battles 105 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: all day long, because all they have to do then 106 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 3: next week is create some other lie and an allegation, 107 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: and then we're back into another investigation. I'm not going 108 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: to play that game with them. If someone can prove 109 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 3: to me that there is a video and that it 110 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: was watched or seen in my office, or there was 111 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 3: some aspect of proof we will absolutely have someone else 112 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: come in and do the investigation. But at this point, 113 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 3: we've done our internal investigation. We did it thoroughly. We 114 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: interviewed every person that was allegedly had some connection to 115 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: being accused of being a part of this or knew 116 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 3: of this, and every single time we could not find 117 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: a shred of evidence that this thing actually occurred. 118 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: Okay, here's the problem with that. He's now admitted there's 119 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: no law enforcement that came in. There's no person who 120 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: has any background on this whatsoever. There's no person with 121 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: any skills set whatsoever, not even forensics or US, not 122 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: state polased, I'm Mary County Prosecutor's office. At least now 123 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: we know in great job by Hammer and Nigel, it's 124 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: just him asking his buddies, did you do it? He 125 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: has no computer background to do this. He didn't bring 126 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: in a third party and the problem and okay, fine, 127 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: if that's what you want to do, but that's your investigation. 128 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: That is the investigation at this point, and if Mike 129 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: is fine with that, it's his office. The problem with that, though, 130 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: is he's allowing his guys to twist in the wind 131 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: because of this. If these are not only his workers. 132 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: They're some of his closest friends and supporters, and he's 133 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: supposedly had this magic key to set all of this free. 134 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: And by the way, if lobianc Go's wrong, the guy 135 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: who wrote the story, I've said this numerous times, they 136 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: should sue that guy for everything he has. If he 137 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: just made this story up, they should sue him for 138 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: everything he has. And one of them is an attorney, 139 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: so it wouldn't cost anything to file. 140 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: Now. 141 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: The problem with this, though, is that I have talked 142 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: to someone who alleges that they saw the video, and 143 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: they have described to me in great detail not only 144 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: seeing the video, but these circumstances around which the video 145 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: is viewed. And that person is cooperating with the authorities. 146 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: So if that person's lying, this would be the most 147 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: crazy thing to lie about, because they have put themselves 148 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: to be for the potentially to be in such a 149 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: world of hurt, such a world of trouble, like they 150 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: go to prison, they can face all of this stuff. 151 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: Why would that person lie about that. It's easy to say, Oh, 152 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: Abduel's a gossip girl and he's of this and he's that. 153 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: What about me, Micah? How many times have I been 154 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: right about stuff over the years. How many times I've 155 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: been right about stuff? Hell, we got the jd vance 156 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: thing and Casey, how long did I go through that? 157 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: I had that way ahead of time and sat on 158 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: it and we were first on that. So now do 159 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: that with me, Micah, say that about me, Say Rob 160 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: Kendall's a gossip girl. See, I just make it up. 161 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: You can't do that. That's the problem. I've talked to 162 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: somebody who says they viewed the video. Now again, if 163 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: they're lying, they're gonna be in a whole world of trouble.