1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: You'll see that Catchel show. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 2: This will either be the greatest segment in the history 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: of radio where the phones won't work. Let's cross our 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: fingers here. It's the Hammer and Nigel Show. I'm Jason 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: Hammer to a attorney, firearms instructor and the host of 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 2: the Gun Guy Show, Guy Relford is here and he 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: is going to answer your to a questions. If you're 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: on hold, all we ask is that you be brief, 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: don't swear, and let's get this party started. Red is 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: up first, Red, Welcome to the show. We got Guy 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: Relford here. 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on? A long time listener, first time 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: calling to the new studio. 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: All right, Hey, so. 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: I think I asked this once before, but I'm probably 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: a little bit closer to my time now. Guy, At 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: what lengths of time do you have to be between 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: your I asked charge to try to get a felony exponged. 19 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 3: That was a time limit, great question. It's eight years. 20 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: You can get a you can get a felony expunged 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: with eight years with a clean criminal history. Now what's 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: really important is that's not from the felony charge necessarily. 23 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: In other words, if there were misdemeanors in between, then 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: that still screws you up. So you need eight years 25 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: with a clean criminal history in order to get a 26 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: felony expunged. For misdemeanors, it's five years from your latest 27 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: criminal conviction. And not all and I'm sure you know this, 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: not all convictions can be expunged. There are a bunch 29 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: of exceptions. But for a lot of really common felony 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: convictions like old drug charges and you know, multiple O 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: w I type things, those are those are the kinds 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: of things that absolutely can be expunged, and we do 33 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: those all the time. So when you hit when you 34 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: hit that eight years, if that's what we're talking about, man, 35 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: call my office and we'll hook you up. 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: Greg is up next. Greg, Welcome to the show, Guy 37 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: Relfertz here. 38 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: Yes, my mom and dad have a few guns. One 39 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 4: or two of the historical. The other ones are more modern. 40 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 4: They're like seven mid save indeeds or whatever. What do 41 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 4: I need to do to prepare for if they should 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: pass on? How to take care of those? 43 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: Well? 44 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 4: Let me, yeah, let me ask you questions registering all 45 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. 46 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, are these just regular rifles pistol shotgun kind of things. 47 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: In other words, there's no machine guns or short brailed 48 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: rifles or anything like that. Yeah, okay, well let's let's 49 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 3: proceed on that assumption. If they're just regular rifles, pistols, 50 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: and shotguns, there's nothing you need to do. They're just property, 51 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: and they could be transferred via a will or you know, 52 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: a trust that some people should set up for real 53 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 3: estate or other property. But just like a will, they 54 00:02:54,800 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: can just be bequeathed, you know, given to air, just 55 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: like a couch or a toaster or any other piece 56 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 3: of property. So there's really nothing you need to do. 57 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: And in fact, there's no such thing as registration of 58 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: firearms in Indiana. It's kind of a common misunderstanding. But 59 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: they're not registered to anybody now because we don't have 60 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: registration in Indiana, and there's no federal registration other than 61 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: for things like machine guns, short barreled rifles that's a 62 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 3: rifle with a barrel less than sixteen inches, or short 63 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: barreled shotguns a shotgun with a barrel less than eighteen inches, 64 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 3: those have to be registered with a federal government. But 65 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: just for normal rifle, pistols and shotguns, there is no registration, 66 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: and they can be transferred to an air to a beneficiary, 67 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: just like any other piece of property. So there's really 68 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: nothing to do to prepare. And I'm glad you asked that, 69 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: because that's really a common point of misunderstanding for people 70 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: in Indiana. 71 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: Chris is waiting patiently. Chris, we got guy Relford here, 72 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: rock and Roll. 73 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 5: Good afternoon, guys. Hey, I'll try and keep this short. 74 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 5: So I'm in a local small guns store a few 75 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 5: months to go out on the east side. There's a 76 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 5: couple of guys in there, I'm guessing early twenties. One 77 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 5: of them asked his friend. He said, Hey, what time 78 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 5: is it. The other guy says, there's a clock right 79 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 5: up there and points at it up on the wall. 80 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 5: The kid says, you know, I can't read that it 81 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 5: was an analog clock. Should he be allowed to own 82 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 5: a firearm? I'll hang up and listen for your answer. 83 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: Well, there's no federal or state law that says that 84 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 3: there's a certain educational requirement in order to exercise the 85 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: Second Amendment right and a regular analog as opposed to 86 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: digital clock. Somebody that doesn't hasn't ever been told how 87 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: to read the face of a clock. Doesn't give me 88 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 3: a lot of confidence in their education or intelligence. 89 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: But I got five bucks. He voted for Kamala. Five bucks. 90 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: That says the guy that couldn't read the clock voted 91 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: for Kamala. 92 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: Harris could be I mean, would you ask that same question, 93 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: should that guy be allowed to vote? Should that guy 94 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: be allowed to post on the internet? Should that guy 95 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: be allowed to express his opinion in public? I mean, 96 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 3: you know, if it's a constitutional right, it's a constitutional right. 97 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 3: So I don't know if your questions rhetorical or not. 98 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: But if it's a constitutional right, then it is. Now 99 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: you can lose that right. But there's nothing about either 100 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: state or federal law that says you have to have 101 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: a certain education or intelligence level in order to possess 102 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: a firearm. 103 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: Tony, we're gonna give you the last word here, my friend, Tony, 104 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: we got guy Relford here, go Aheadhy. 105 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 6: I just have a question on open carrier of a 106 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 6: rifle or shotgun in public. How does that compared to 107 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 6: carrying a handgun? 108 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: Well, you know, since we've had constitutional carry as to handguns, 109 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: you don't need any kind of license or permit. But 110 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 3: there's never been a license or permit requirement to carry 111 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: a long gun either on your person or in a 112 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: vehicle in public and India, So there's nothing illegal now, 113 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: you know, the open carry folks that like to you know, 114 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: go to you know, walk around downtown Indy with their 115 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 3: rifles or shotguns hung on a sling. There's nothing illegal 116 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: about that. And it's as they say, it's their right 117 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 3: to do it and it's not illegal. I question what 118 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: their agenda is and what they're really trying to accomplish, 119 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: because every time someone sees you walking around with your 120 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: ar around Monument Circle or in front of the State House, 121 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 3: somebody's going to go file a law, file a bill 122 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: to make that illegal, and I'm going to have to 123 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: be over there fighting against it in the General Assembly. 124 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: So I wonder what the objective is. But today there's 125 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 3: nothing illegal about possessing a long gun, a rifle or 126 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: a shotgun in public, including carrying it in public. 127 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 2: Steve, Sorry, we couldn't get to your call. 128 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 3: Brother. 129 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: You can call Guy Relford on Saturday and he will 130 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: answer any query that you have. When is the Gun Guy. 131 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 3: Show five to seven on Saturdays. And now that you've 132 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: established Jason that the phones work, you've got to with 133 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: a producer Kurt. Then yeah, that I actually had my 134 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: first two callers this past Saturday, so I was cautiously 135 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: optimistic we could get that to work here today. But yeah, 136 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: give me a call five to seven on Saturdays 137 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: Steve, my brother called Guy Rolford, and he will answer 138 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: your questions