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Speaker 1: Keeping the Grand Rising family and welcome to Wednesday. It's

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Speaker 1: a day we're halfway through the work week. Later made

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Speaker 1: a physician and master herbalist, Doctor B will take over

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Speaker 1: our classroom and Doctor B will preview his latest book.

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Speaker 1: This book is titled What's Eating You Now. The book

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Speaker 1: it takes a hard look at the hidden forces that

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Speaker 1: are attacking us mentally, physically, and also energetically. All of

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Speaker 1: those are parasites. And he'll he'll share with us how

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Speaker 1: to make a change. But before doctor B, Award winning

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Speaker 1: photo journalist Jeff Nichols will share his coverage of Nelson

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Speaker 1: Mandel's release that happened thirty six years ago today. But

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Speaker 1: to get us started, Mom and tell her we're going

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Speaker 1: to speak with a director sent Harriet Tubman tonight coffee

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Speaker 1: will join us. But first i's Het Kevin open the

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Speaker 1: classroom door so we can get this thing going this morning,

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Grand Rising, indeed Carl Nelson in the world of Sydney Portier. Amen, Amen, Amen.

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Speaker 2: Remember when he's saying that, oh well yeah, so we're

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Speaker 2: going to start.

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Speaker 3: This Wednesday off that way. You know, everybody's got.

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Speaker 2: A morning ritual and make saying amen, part of it today.

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Speaker 3: Okay, hey, look how you feeling today?

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Speaker 1: My brother, I'm still learning and I know I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: learn something. We're speaking of Tonette and also Tonette, I should say,

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Speaker 1: and also with doctor B and the other guests that

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Speaker 1: Jeff Nichols. Yeah, we're gonna be learning something. All of

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Speaker 1: us are going to be learning some stuff this morning.

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Speaker 2: Powerfolk man, that's powerful lineup you've got for today. As always,

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Speaker 2: it's the eleventh of February already, Where does the time go?

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Speaker 2: And uh, it's like we're having a heat wave. Man,

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Speaker 2: so happy that the temperatures have risen into the forties.

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Speaker 3: Can you believe that.

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Speaker 1: It's a heat wave?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: I know we're celebrating the forties. I tell you, you know.

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Speaker 3: We'll take it though.

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Speaker 2: We'll take Meanwhile, though, there is a tragic news.

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Speaker 3: Going on in Rockville.

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Speaker 2: Man, the sixteen year old, is charged as an adult

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Speaker 2: with attempted murder in Wooton High School. He after the

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Speaker 2: police say he shot a fellow student and pointed a

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Speaker 2: While giving an update on the investigation yesterday, Rockville City

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Speaker 2: Police Chief Jason West said the teen who was arrested

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Speaker 2: shot a sixteen year old boy Monday afternoon after aiming

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Speaker 2: not suffer injury, and Wes said, However, through investigation, we

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Speaker 2: to this shooting occurring. The Rockville City Police Department in

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Speaker 2: officers with the Montgomery County Police Department were dispatched to

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Speaker 3: And they said they call it a ghost gun.

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Speaker 2: And the officers found it late Winsday yesterday afternoon, somewhere

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Speaker 2: What's going on in these schools?

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Speaker 1: Right down the street exactly. But and this happened Monday,

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Speaker 2: One of the students, a junior named Jacqueline Kelly, said,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, all that the school should provide counseling for

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Speaker 2: the Democrats are unified behind a hard ball strategy on funding.

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Speaker 2: Any funding bill for the Department of Homeland Security is

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Speaker 2: going to face a tough climb in Congress with the

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Speaker 2: The Department of Homeland Security is headed for a shut

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Speaker 2: Democrats have made their stance known. Reform immigration enforcement or

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Speaker 2: there will be no Department of Homeland Security funding. And

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Speaker 2: even with a DHS shutdown on the horizon, what's supposed

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Well, let's.

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Speaker 1: See if they really do, because they've caved in so

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Speaker 1: many times, Kevin, they've they've just capitulated, They've just okay,

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Speaker 1: If not, we're going to have a government shutdown on

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Speaker 2: Well, they say, wall is not uncommon to see referees

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Speaker 3: Both chambers seem united.

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Speaker 2: They want major changes at immigration and customs enforcement, and

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Speaker 2: in a world in which the Department of Homeland Security

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Speaker 3: The situation became viable last week.

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Speaker 2: In Congress finished funding bills until October for everything but

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Speaker 3: And so you're saying that what that they may cave in.

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Speaker 1: But what's going on in black history? As we continue

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Speaker 2: Right, exactly, I love talking about Black history, especially during

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Speaker 2: isis paper, The Keys to the Colors and So. She

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Speaker 2: was born in Chicago, March eighteenth, nineteen thirty five. Her father,

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Speaker 3: You ever self published the book, Carl, That's a pretty

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Speaker 3: interesting thing to do.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, because we were running out of time, camp.

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Speaker 1: And Family. Tonette is a director center of Harriet Tubman. Tonette,

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Speaker 1: day with Tonette Cuffey. Tonette, welcome again to the program.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, I should say, but first of all, tell

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Speaker 6: I am fifth generation great niece of Harriet by way

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Speaker 1: Ross and Ben Ross. Is it's to night there?

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Speaker 5: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 6: I can hear awesome, good morning. So I am fifth

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Speaker 1: Right, and I was asking who is Ben Ross? You

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, before we talk about this latest disrespect

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Speaker 6: We are not hearing anything either. I I just don't

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Speaker 1: All right, finally we'll talk about that before you go again.

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Speaker 1: But tell us about now this latest disparaging project against

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Speaker 6: My goodness. So scrolling on Facebook one day, I come

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Speaker 1: Yeah, was this a black person who did this?

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Speaker 6: And you know, unfortunately it was. And that's what makes

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Speaker 1: hope they hope they repudiated this production of Harrod Tubman

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Speaker 6: However I can't find him on social media because there

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Speaker 1: He even put on a play like that. Uh, they

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Speaker 1: up in the system of racist and white supremacy and

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Speaker 1: all this you's got to do, You've got to recognize it.

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Speaker 1: And so let me ask you this, it would be,

438
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Speaker 1: would be what would you like to see happen this

439
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Speaker 1: totally eradicated all this young man as somebody sit him down,

440
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Speaker 1: one of our answers, one of our scholars, and really

441
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Speaker 1: teach him about what Harry Tubman did for us.

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Speaker 6: That's exactly what I would like to see. And he

443
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Speaker 6: needs to apologize for misinforming the public and misinforming the

444
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Speaker 6: youth in his audience as well as Russell Simmons did,

445
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Speaker 6: because people need to know, you know that this isn't right.

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Speaker 1: And definitely not right. Eight hundred and four or five

447
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Speaker 1: zero seventy eight six twenty nine minutes away from the

448
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Speaker 1: top of our family. I guess he's Tony Cuffee. She's

449
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Speaker 1: a fifth generation relative of Harriet Tubman. And its talking

450
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Speaker 1: about somebody's trying to discredit Harry Tubman in a play.

451
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Speaker 1: I don't know why they why they can pick somebody else,

452
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Speaker 1: why Harriet Tubman? But anyway, brother Brown wants to join this.

453
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Speaker 1: Brother Brown, actually he's in Arlington, Virginia. So I'm gonna

454
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Speaker 1: make him brother brown X. You're only tornette coffee.

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Speaker 10: Well, Solcolm salamed people and you know it's a grand

456
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Speaker 10: rising to you wearing these uh that it's despicable how

457
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Speaker 10: they how they portray our black leaders. I have two

458
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Speaker 10: or three questions issues. Let me talk about the the

459
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Speaker 10: coin or the the bills. Did ever want to put

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Speaker 10: Harry Tubman's name name on? They did have a plan?

461
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Speaker 10: Did ever want to do that? Like maybe eight ten

462
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Speaker 10: years ago, They're gonna put her in her face on

463
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Speaker 10: a twenty other bill on one side, but the other

464
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Speaker 10: side they was gonna put Andrew Jackson's face on the

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Speaker 10: other side. So they scrapped that because they didn't want

466
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Speaker 10: the slave masks to bill on one side of the

467
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Speaker 10: bill and her to be the save on the other side.

468
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Speaker 10: So I think they had came up with the plan,

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Speaker 10: but that plan was crapped. Number Two, the way Hollywood

470
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Speaker 10: have put that did did your did your your your

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Speaker 10: on de picture of Hollywood?

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Speaker 6: Did and Harry Tubman?

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Speaker 10: And I want to know how much input did you

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Speaker 10: have in that? Because that that movie did not portray

475
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Speaker 10: her in the correct light. There's one another reason why

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Speaker 10: we should always do movies. You know, there was certain

477
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Speaker 10: there were certain scenes in it it didn't happen. I mean,

478
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Speaker 10: how she was, she was so much in love with

479
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Speaker 10: the slave master and certain things, certain things that was

480
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Speaker 10: in it. I think the third issue that I had was,

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Speaker 10: oh my god, I kind of I kind of forgot,

482
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Speaker 10: but I mean I was, oh I initially when it

483
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Speaker 10: was to that movie about Harry Tubman, didn't wanted to

484
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Speaker 10: put a white woman in it to betray her. Julia Roberts,

485
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Speaker 10: you know, didn't want.

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Speaker 11: To Jackie Robins to be Erry Tubman.

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Speaker 10: It just goes back to how we need to, like

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Speaker 10: you said, called everybody, we need to betray our whole

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Speaker 10: story and our own history. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tonett, you want to respond to anything that

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Speaker 1: brother Brown said.

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Speaker 6: So I agree to how the Harriet Tubman movie was.

493
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Speaker 6: It was totally whitewashed. It still did not show the

494
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Speaker 6: truth struggle. It depicts slavery as a lighter thing and

495
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Speaker 6: not how you know, brutal it really was, and the

496
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 6: relationships between the slaves and the masters were lightened. They

497
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Speaker 6: just depicted the man and the wife as mean acting,

498
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Speaker 6: and they were not just mean acting. They were abusive

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Speaker 6: and disrespectful, and that you know, they created a lot

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Speaker 6: of trauma in slave households, which that trauma is still

501
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Speaker 6: embedded in US today. And as far as the twenty

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Speaker 6: dollars bill, we oh, I'm sorry, let me go back

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Speaker 6: to the movie. No, the family had no input in anything.

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Speaker 6: We thought it should have been done on Dorchester County

505
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Speaker 6: soil where Harriet come and was born and raised.

506
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Speaker 5: All of that land.

507
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Speaker 6: Is still there.

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Speaker 12: We just dug up.

509
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Speaker 6: Parts of Ben's house like the original brick with Maryland

510
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Speaker 6: Archaeology last summer.

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Speaker 1: So this question though, to let me about the movie,

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Speaker 1: since we're talking about the movie twenty six away from

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Speaker 1: the top of it, do you think it was sort

514
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Speaker 1: of torn down so it could pass the quote unquote

515
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: the moral census in Hollywood? So, you know, because if

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Speaker 1: they really told you manage slavery wasn't depicted the way

517
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Speaker 1: it really was in the movie. But do you think

518
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Speaker 1: it was toned down because of that to let them

519
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Speaker 1: do the movie, Because if they really showed the harsh

520
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Speaker 1: reality of slavery, it probably wouldn't have gotten done. Do

521
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Speaker 1: you think that was the reason why?

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Speaker 6: So it probably would not have gotten done in Hollywood,

523
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Speaker 6: but someone else may have picked it up. I mean,

524
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Speaker 6: we were hoping that someone like Tyler Perry would pick

525
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Speaker 6: it up. It would have been much more truthful than

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Speaker 6: it is now. And rest in peace to the great

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Speaker 6: Sicily Tyson.

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Speaker 5: She was the.

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Speaker 6: Best actress when it came to depicting Harriet. But you know,

530
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Speaker 6: we we were looking for something like that, not this

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Speaker 6: lighthearted nonsense that they did put out, because it truly

532
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Speaker 6: did not depict slavery or how any of the Ross

533
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Speaker 6: family members were treated, or any slaves for that matter,

534
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Speaker 6: were treated. It seemed like it was the easy going life.

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Speaker 6: As long as the slaves stood in it, stayed in

536
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Speaker 6: their place, then things were easy going. And that was

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Speaker 6: not the case, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, And unfortunately, Tonette, what would happen now when people

539
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Speaker 1: want to do some research the young people on Harrod Tubman,

540
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Speaker 1: they're going to look at that movie. You know, they're

541
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: gonna just think everything that the slavey wasn't as harsh

542
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: as it really was. That it's going to be reflecting

543
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Speaker 1: what the movie people or Hollywood put out.

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Speaker 6: Yes, they're gonna look at that movie and they're gonna

545
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 6: look read misinformed books like the ones Kate Larson put out,

546
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 6: and that is those are not fact. The families refer

547
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 6: people to Sarah Bradford's book books because that is when

548
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 6: Harriet was actually living. Those are actually Harriet's words. She

549
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 6: sat on the front porch with Sarah Bradford and told

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Speaker 6: her her own story. And you know, I'm more prone

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Speaker 6: to believe those than to believe any movie or anything

552
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Speaker 6: that has came out that has not had extensive research

553
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Speaker 6: and is not done on the soil where Harriet was from.

554
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Speaker 1: All right, hold, I thought right there. We got to

555
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: check the news and traffic in our different cities are

556
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: twenty three minutes away from the top. They only get back.

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00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: Mark in Houston wants to speak. We do, family, if

558
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: you're just waken up, I guess he's tone at coffee.

559
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: She's a fifth generation relative, Harriet Tubman. And again there

560
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: another attempt to disgrace her legacy. What are your thoughts?

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00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: You can reach us at eight hundred four or five

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00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy six, and we'll take your phone

563
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: calls after we check the news. Trafficking weather in different cities.

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00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: That's next. Any thanks for waking up with us on

565
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Speaker 1: this Wednesday morning. It's a hunt day. That means we're

566
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Speaker 1: halfway through with the work week. We have Tone had Cuffee.

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Speaker 1: Tonett is a director centat of Harriet Tubman and once

568
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: again somebody's trying to take a license with her legacy.

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Speaker 1: There's a play we can play it out now in California.

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00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: They started out on the Long Beach and they say

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Speaker 1: they're gonna move it to la and the play is

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Speaker 1: called Harriet Tubman Loves Slave and has Harriet Tubman doing

573
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: so many inappropriate things that will make your skin crawl

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Speaker 1: even twerking. But before we go back to her, let

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Speaker 1: me just remind you come up. Later this morning, we're

576
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Speaker 1: gonna speak with doctor B. Doctor B will share with

577
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Speaker 1: us his latest Before we speak to Doctor B, though,

578
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: we're going to speak with award winning four the journalist

579
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Speaker 1: Jeff Nichols. He's going to share his coverage of Nelson

580
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: Mandel's release. Nelson Mandel has released thirty six years ago.

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Speaker 1: Today and tomorrow, we're gonna speak with Grill and Quanta

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Speaker 1: created doctor Milana Kurenga and also music history and Bill

583
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: Carmerd will tell us how music played a role in

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Speaker 1: our freedom in Black history or African heritage month is

585
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: now some people will called it. So if you are

586
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, make sure you keep you ready a lot

587
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: in tight on ten ten WLB, or if you're in

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Speaker 1: the DMV round fourteen fifteen w L. All right, Tellnette

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Speaker 1: Mark and Houston has a question for you about the

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Speaker 1: movie Grand Rise. In Mark Mark's online three is Mark

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Speaker 1: downline three? I hear him, Mark, all right tonight, you're

592
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: still with us though, right?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 5: So what.

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00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: Did they the people who put on his play? And

597
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Speaker 1: somebody tweeted those who on hair would have left behind?

598
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: But I think he would have probably shot some of

599
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: these folks too for what they're doing. You know, how

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Speaker 1: do we how do we? How do we so?

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Speaker 5: How do we?

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Speaker 1: How do we get the real story of Howard Tubman told?

603
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: Because if all these these the stories that have been

604
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: her legacy, the people don't think she did anything, how

605
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: can how can we? How can we?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: What can we do as a people to make sure

608
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Speaker 1: that this doesn't happen again? Because I know your family,

609
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: You've got an extrabiscuit in the pie because she's she's blood,

610
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: but for the rest of us too, she's she's a

611
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: firefighter for us. So how can we help you.

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Speaker 6: So what we are doing to preserve her legacy actually, uh,

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00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 6: the Harriet Ross Tubman family and Frederick Douglas family. We

614
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Speaker 6: are in the process of launching the Frederick Douglas African

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Speaker 6: American the Frederick Douglas Society of African American History. We

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Speaker 6: actually launch it this weekend in Easton at the Frederick

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Speaker 6: Douglas's Birthday celebration.

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Speaker 8: And so.

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Speaker 6: You can actually check that out on fd hill dot com.

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Speaker 6: So it is other legacy families such as James Still,

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Speaker 6: doctor Wayman, the Malcolm X family, then Turner family, so

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Speaker 6: many more. We are still inducting other legacy family members

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Speaker 6: into the Frederick Douglas Society, but that celebration is going on,

624
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 6: and within that celebration, we are teaching the true stories

625
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 6: about these historical figures because they are not caricatures. You

626
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 6: cannot downplay their stories because their stories is what helps

627
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 6: shape America and the world today. So we have ongoing things.

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Speaker 6: I have a novelty store coming in May with North

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Speaker 6: Star Village. It is called Ross Roots Collective, and our

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00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 6: family is actively creating five to one c threes to

631
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Speaker 6: continue to educate people about Harriet Tubman and other legacy

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Speaker 6: families to ensure that their legacies and the true stories

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00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 6: are told so that people know what's in them. Because

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00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 6: if they know we started with the fight and we

635
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 6: ended up on this side, they know that they could

636
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 6: take that ball and go so much further.

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00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: All Right, Family Travel Away from the Top. He Our

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00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: with Tony Cuffee issues a director Center fifth generation of

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Speaker 1: Harriet Tubman we call the most is what we used

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00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: to call her back in the day. There's a play

641
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: that started on in Long Beach, California. It's called Harriet

642
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: Tubman Love Slaves and it shows her doing all all

643
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: sorts of inappropriate things. Obviously, this person doesn't know much

644
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: about our history to do that, and sad part about

645
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: he's black and the folks in LA just hit me

646
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: up and says that it's supposed to be playing LA

647
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: on the last week of February Black History Month, the

648
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Speaker 1: African Heritage money. So you know what to do out there, La.

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00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: I'll let you guys handle that, but we got some

650
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: folks who want to talk to you. Let's try and

651
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: mark again online. Three in Houston. Grand Rise of Market

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Speaker 1: on with Tonette Cuffee.

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Speaker 8: Okay, well, Grand Rise it or are y'all doing, y'all

654
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Speaker 8: doing all right this morning?

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Speaker 6: All right, yes, ma'am.

656
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Speaker 5: I just wanted to say.

657
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Speaker 8: That that's why we down here and take the bite

658
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 8: so hard to make sure these people don't take the

659
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Speaker 8: black history, you know, out of our schools, you know,

660
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 8: and teach our children the black history stage and the

661
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 8: black people understand they are just all they doing idea

662
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 8: is trying to make money. They know what they're doing.

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Speaker 8: They know they're wrong for trying to do uh uh

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Speaker 8: plays and stuff like that. I think, if if we should.

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Speaker 5: We should boycott stuff like.

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Speaker 8: That that we don't like it, or explaining the reason

667
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Speaker 8: why we boycotted it. But as far as the twenty

668
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Speaker 8: dollars bill, once again, I think that was Broack Obama

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Speaker 8: was the one who initiated to put her name on

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Speaker 8: the twenty dollars bill. And what happened after that, I

671
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 8: guess it's known. It's unknown, you know. I mean, we know,

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Speaker 8: we know we got the healthcare, but that was about

673
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Speaker 8: the only thing that that that he done. I mean,

674
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 8: but at the end of the day, I mean, he

675
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 8: was a great man, don't get me wrong, But I

676
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 8: don't know why that that twenty dollars.

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Speaker 10: Bill uh failed.

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Speaker 8: I think he could have pushed his father or administrator

679
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Speaker 8: did it, but I guess they didn't do it. But uh,

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Speaker 8: we're not going to give up up on Harry Tough.

681
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 8: I mean, you walk to these young generations today or tomorrow,

682
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Speaker 8: you can rest the show.

683
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Speaker 5: They understand who.

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Speaker 8: Harry Tough is. I can I can properly about for

685
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 8: that because I asked there were people I go around

686
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Speaker 8: and ask him by things like that and they know where.

687
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 8: So uh, it's just people just trying to make money

688
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 8: out of things that you know now you have to

689
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 8: tell our to and token and all that old nun

690
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 8: and you know that that's what they want to do

691
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 8: comedy or whatever. That's fine, but it's it's just not

692
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Speaker 8: the truth. You know what I'm saying. We don't want

693
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 8: to put that out there. You know that's what you know.

694
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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.

695
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Speaker 5: So uh, clo, you know unacceptable, right.

696
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Speaker 8: It's very unacceptable. And that's why I just want to

697
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Speaker 8: say that thank you call for let me have a boy.

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Speaker 1: Guys, You're totally true. It is unacceptable. If we detegrate

699
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: our heroes like that, then you know, again the oppressor

700
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: doesn't have to do anything. Again, I got to share

701
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: with you that's how the doctor Wilson said, that's how

702
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: the system, that's the that's part of the system of

703
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: racist and white supremacy. That's how it works.

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Speaker 6: And go ahead, and if we tell the truth about

705
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Speaker 6: their ancestors and all the nasty things that they've actually

706
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 6: then you know they want to it's apples and oranges

707
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 6: type thing. You know, they don't want to accept it.

708
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 6: It's made up, it's not it's not true.

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Speaker 1: When it is the truth, it is a deal, though

710
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: too tiny. We got to put a stop to it

711
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: because next thing will be Malcolm next to Martin, Fire

712
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: County beats any of our leaders. You know, they'll put

713
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: stuff like that and say they're enjoying it and do

714
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Speaker 1: it on Black History Month. So we've got to put

715
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Speaker 1: a stop to this. Family. Those folks who don't understand

716
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: our history, don't understand they're being used. Somebody needs to

717
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: step to them and let them know, just teach them,

718
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: because obviously they're ignorant of our history. I mean, I

719
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: just you know, it bothers me too, just to think

720
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Speaker 1: about how people, how we could do so self destructed

721
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: like this as a people. You know, the oppressor doesn't

722
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: have to do anything, He just sits there, and we're

723
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: just doing it to ourselves. Family, we got to wake up.

724
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Speaker 1: Eight away from the top of tourney, we got some

725
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: more folks want to talk to you. Bob's in Buffalo.

726
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Speaker 1: He's online three grandarizing, Bob yea way to Cuffey.

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Speaker 12: Yes, their blessed little family. Honor his sister for honoring

728
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 12: her ancestor. And truth is real. And I want to

729
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 12: encourage us all to look back into our legacy, our roots,

730
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Speaker 12: and learn the stories of those who brought us here

731
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Speaker 12: and begin to tell their stories, tell them to our

732
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 12: children if we don't tell them to anybody else. And

733
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Speaker 12: I think that we need to, Like you were saying,

734
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Speaker 12: the we need to control the narrative and call out

735
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 12: things like when you hear the words pseudoscience, and begin

736
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Speaker 12: to free our tongue and stop calling our ancestors slaves.

737
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Speaker 12: They were enslaved African people. Stop calling the person who

738
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Speaker 12: did it master. He was an enslaver. We need to

739
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 12: put the blame and the owners for where it lies

740
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 12: into the credit for it lies. So we need to

741
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 12: free our tongue, free our mind, which will free our

742
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 12: tongue and keep the idea of freedom and not accept

743
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Speaker 12: this idea of this captivity that we're suffering from now

744
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 12: where we have to suffer the indignities.

745
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 5: Of a trumpet and the.

746
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Speaker 12: Right wing that is running things right now, we'll keep

747
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Speaker 12: our minds set on freedom and free our tongue. Really,

748
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Speaker 12: I want to repeat, I honor you for honoring your ancestor,

749
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Speaker 12: and we have to tell our own stories.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you, And he correct. I'm sorry, he's

751
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 6: absolutely correct that we need to change the way of

752
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 6: telling the story because they were enslaved and they He's

753
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 6: definitely correct. I appreciate that.

754
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Speaker 1: All right, stakes away from the topic. I've got another

755
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: tweetter says, I'm offended that in twenty twenty six were

756
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Speaker 1: having this conversation that a black man is depicting Harrod

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00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: Tubman in the manner, in that manner, Folks in LA

758
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: need to shut this down. You want to respond to

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Speaker 1: that tournette.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so we are going to try the best that

761
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Speaker 6: we can to have it shut down. Might have to

762
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Speaker 6: take a flight to California.

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Speaker 5: Who knows.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, well, you know, we got folks out there,

765
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Speaker 1: so let us know when you get out there and

766
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: we can help you out and get the word out

767
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: five minutes away from the top. And in the clip

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Speaker 1: to in the play, they have Harrd Tubman twerking and

769
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Speaker 1: bending over and twerking, because this is when I think

770
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Speaker 1: she left and came back and the husband had married

771
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Speaker 1: somebody else because he didn't think she was gonna be

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Speaker 1: He didn't think she could make it back. Thought they would,

773
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Speaker 1: they would get her, you know, if you trying to

774
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: help some of our answers as escape. So anyway, in

775
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: the play, she comes back and she's twerking and telling

776
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: him baby, baby, baby, I'm back, and she's rapping this

777
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Speaker 1: where are you at? Come and get this aaa? Come

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00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: and get this aaa. And the young man who did

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00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: this play thought that was that was funny. He thinks that's,

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Speaker 1: you know, even though it's a raunchy rap song, he

781
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: thinks that's a that's an f you to slavery. So

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Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on that. He thinks

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Speaker 1: that's that's the way to put down slavery that our

784
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Speaker 1: answers has had to enjoy. So I'll let you respond

785
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: that when we get back with I'm looking at the

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Speaker 1: clock and we got to check the traffic and weather

787
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Speaker 1: in that different cities. Family YouTube can join our conversation

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Speaker 1: with Tony Cuffee each other to us at eight hundred

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Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six and well

790
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: take a phone calls next. I think brand rising. Family,

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Speaker 1: thanks for starting your Tuesday with us. I guesst Is,

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Speaker 1: Tonette and Cuffey. She's a director CeNAT of Harriet Tubmanham

793
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Speaker 1: discussing a play out in LA that depicts Harrd Tubman

794
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Speaker 1: desparages her legacy. If you will, it's the untold story,

795
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Speaker 1: the playwright says, between Harrot and her first husband, John Tubman,

796
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: the man who left her when she chose freedom of affairs,

797
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: she went away. He didn't think she'd come back, so

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Speaker 1: he married somebody else. So in the in the part

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Speaker 1: of one of the scenes in the place that she's

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Speaker 1: twerking and telling you know, to come and get this

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00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: AAA and rapping and it's all raunchy and there's something

802
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: that's people who love our history are opposed to. He says,

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00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: we don't get it. This is his generation, like the

804
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 1: young people like the raunchy songs, and Harriet Tubman twerking

805
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: just as bad as well. Russell Simmons tried to do

806
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Speaker 1: a few years ago. So but Tonette, uh, what what

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00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: do you what do you? What do you want to

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Speaker 1: see happened? Can we get somebody to do it an

809
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: original play? Because she said the movie, the movie Harriet

810
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: didn't really depict the slavery as harsh as he was.

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Speaker 1: And when we talked about this earlier that it was

812
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: sort of toned down so that he could, you know,

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Speaker 1: the it be appropriate for white folks for their appetite,

814
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: but we know that the slavey was brutal, you know,

815
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: for our ancestors. So I just want to get your

816
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: thoughts on that.

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00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 6: So the only thing we could continue to do right

818
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 6: now is to educate every chance that you get, share

819
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 6: those stories with your children, grandchildren, anyone that shows interest

820
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 6: in our history. Not everyone is a fan of our history,

821
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Speaker 6: so sometimes you have to you have to explain it

822
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Speaker 6: in a brutally honest way, but let them ask questions.

823
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 6: But the main thing is to educate. And one thing

824
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 6: that young man said was that.

825
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Speaker 5: His play was an f you to slavery.

826
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Speaker 6: No, it was a welcoming of ignorance. And we have

827
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Speaker 6: to let everyone know that we do not tolerate that

828
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Speaker 6: when it comes to our historical figures, because they never conducted.

829
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Speaker 8: Themselves that way.

830
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Speaker 6: But in the meantime, educate, educate, educate, share everything that

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Speaker 6: you know to be true about our histories.

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Speaker 1: All right, topic, Jeff Nichols Award winning photojournalsis on deck.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to Jeff in a moment, but Copina is

834
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Speaker 1: joining a conversation. Coopina, grand Rising, You're on with Tony Cuffey.

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Speaker 4: Grand Rising, brother Clacy and mis ms Cuffey. Uh yeah, Actually,

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Speaker 4: mss Cuffey kind of answered my questions just just now

837
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Speaker 4: because I missed a little bit of what she was

838
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 4: saying about the Harriet movie starring Cynthia Revo.

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Speaker 3: Uh so she miss.

840
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Speaker 4: Cuffey, you thought it didn't characterize slavery as harshly as

841
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Speaker 4: it was, which I'm sure you're probably right. I still

842
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 4: thought it was a good movie, you know, I did.

843
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 4: But I understand your point. But as far as this

844
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 4: young man out in California with this play, it's just

845
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 4: it's just mim bibbler that he would even think.

846
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Speaker 5: To to to to make.

847
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 4: This uh play, to produce this play. Well, we got

848
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 4: a long way to go. It's it's just people.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: I don't know when we're gonna unite this. This this

851
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 4: really embarrassing. Uh, you know to hear about this young man.

852
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 4: But I appreciate uh what you're doing, Miss Cuffey. And

853
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 4: uh maybe something else will come up with a movie

854
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 4: that that that characterize the slavey more harshly. But again,

855
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 4: I thought the Harriet move was pretty good. But uh, anyway,

856
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 4: that was all I had to say. Thank you, brother

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00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 4: Craci and Ms Cuffey, and uh have a great day.

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00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, thank you. Uh and and and a

859
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: tweet question for you tweet says, please ask your guests

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Speaker 1: is she also related to Paul Cuffey.

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00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 6: So we are doing our research. My grandparents and great

862
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 6: grandmother always told me that I was related to Paul Cuffey.

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00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 6: They have books, But as of right now, I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: say I'm researching to verify the information that I have

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Speaker 6: been given. But that would be a wonderful thing if

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00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 6: I am related to Paul Cuffey and Harriet, because if

867
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 6: you know Paul Cuffey, you know, had his own movement

868
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 6: back in the seventeen hundreds and he actually came to

869
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 6: Maryland Vienna Maryland and had an issue there with helping

870
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 6: someone escape. So I mean, it would be a complete

871
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 6: honor if he is part of my bloodline as well.

872
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 6: But we are researching, yeah.

873
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: And the person goes on and says she met doctor

874
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: Sally Cuffy. It was also a center of Paul Cuffy. Say,

875
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting you've got that in your blood. Let

876
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: me ask you this, Tonette, when did you find out

877
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 1: that you were related to Harriet Tubman at one age?

878
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 6: So I found out when I was a young child. However,

879
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 6: when you're a child and you're not told that, people

880
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 6: are protecting you, so they don't tell you all the

881
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 6: things that you should know because they want you to

882
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 6: have a childhood and they want to protect you from

883
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 6: all of the harshness of the world, so they don't

884
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 6: tell you.

885
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 5: The real deal.

886
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 6: They just let you know you're related to Harriet Tubman.

887
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 6: Then when the schools find out, they have you acting

888
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 6: out Harriet Tubman in the place, and the plays are

889
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 6: of course a minischool because they're not going to tell

890
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 6: the true.

891
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 5: Story in school.

892
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 6: The history books in school don't even have it. But

893
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 6: my awakening when I embraced her true legacy and started

894
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 6: on research. I was really between thirty five and thirty seven,

895
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 6: and thirty seven was when I doubled down and I

896
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 6: was like, no, what, this is my responsibility to carry

897
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 6: this on because before then my grandmother and her sisters

898
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 6: and my aunt Patricia Ross Hawkins, they were the spokesperson

899
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 6: for the Ross family in Maryland on Ross's branch. But

900
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 6: thirty seven is when I have my true awakening of wow,

901
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 6: this is who this woman is. I have some of

902
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 6: those same characteristic I need to increase the strengths that

903
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 6: you know, she's passed on to us spiritually, and you know,

904
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 6: educate and share her story. So that is what our

905
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 6: family is.

906
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: Doing, all right, Good for you, Good for you, and

907
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: keeping that legacy intact. You know, we talked about early

908
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: a by the twenty dollars bill, Harrod Tubman twenty dollar bill,

909
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: and doing the break, I was looking up online what's

910
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: going on. They say it's expected to win the circulation

911
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: around twenty thirty, so but maybe later because you know,

912
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: they're all sort of delays, so you know, so we'll

913
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: see if at twenty thirty, if we if they do

914
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: get that Harriet Tubman twenty dollar bill. And I think

915
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: that could have They could have accelerated They said Biden

916
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: wanted it. He could have done it because he was

917
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: I think it was an or or it was Obama's administration.

918
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: One of them could have accelerated this up. Because we

919
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: know with Ana Donald Trump, he's not going to push

920
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: this have a black woman, you know, on one of

921
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: our bills twenty especially on twenty dollar bills. He probably

922
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 1: you know, put it out of service if he figures

923
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: said harrot tubman is going to be on there, try

924
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: to figure out way keep her off the off the bill,

925
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: or try to.

926
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 6: Get his life already, see you already see what he's

927
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 6: doing with everything else. I mean, taking down different plaques

928
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 6: educating people about slavery all around the world. It's horrible

929
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 6: what he's doing. So he definitely knew he wasn't going

930
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 6: to be a fan of following through on that twenty

931
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 6: dollars bill.

932
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: That's where we come in. We've got to push that family.

933
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 1: So you know, again there's the ladies that I'm seeing

934
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: here is it's supposed to under circulation twenty thirty, twenty thirty,

935
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: So obviously they'll start printing them and do whatever it is.

936
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: But hopefully that by that time, we're still using paper

937
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: money because FIA currency is on the way out. They're

938
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: going into the digital age. So hopefully it's just that

939
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 1: those will still be using the paper money at that time.

940
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: An Tony, before we let you go, how can we

941
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: help you? Say? You have a meeting this weekend?

942
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 6: Yes, so we have the Frederick Douglass Society of African

943
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 6: American History and Culture. It is February fourteenth at the

944
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 6: Waterfowl Building in Eastern Maryland at six point thirty. You

945
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 6: can get your tickets on Fdhill dot org. I would

946
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 6: love to see as many of you as we can

947
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 6: this weekend, all.

948
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: Right, and I congratulate you on preserving the legacy of

949
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: your relative. And it's up to us too, because Harrd

950
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: Tubman is because of Hanrod Tubman. We can speak right now.

951
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: We're here because of what she did, mother Moses Hanrid Tuban.

952
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: So I just want to thank you, and if we

953
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: can help you, just let us know. Tonette.

954
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 6: Oh, so I appreciate that.

955
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: All right, family, Let's move on now. Nine after top

956
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: There award winning journalists photo journalists where us Jeff Nichols,

957
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: Grant Rising, Jeff, Welcome to the program.

958
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 7: Morning called thank you. How are you doing?

959
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm still learning, Jeff, And I'm gonna. I know I've

960
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: been with you cratching time, and so I'm gonna. I

961
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna learn something because we were together. Was

962
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 1: it thirty years ago today? This actual day in nineteen

963
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: ninety when Nelson Mandela was released to us? How did

964
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 1: you get involved in the project? First?

965
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 7: You know, that's funny you asked that because I was

966
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 7: thinking along those lines like what really happened? How this

967
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 7: phone come about? And I truly think it was a blessing.

968
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 7: It was going to be a learning experience and it

969
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 7: is something that really has shaped my life. So Quincy

970
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 7: Jones Entertainment contacted me and said, hey, would you like

971
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 7: to go to South Africa and film the release of

972
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 7: Nelson Mandela and accompanied Jesse, the Reverend Jesse Jackson, And

973
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 7: so that's what I did. A lot went into that preparation,

974
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 7: but yeah.

975
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: Well let me share with that. I started too. A

976
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: Reverend Jackson called me in and he said, tell Stevie,

977
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: give you two weeks off. We're we're going to sound

978
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: habit get Mandela and I go what I thought? I

979
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: thought it was just I thought he was joking at first.

980
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: I said no, no, you got to get a visa

981
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: from the South African Embassy in Beverly Hill. So I

982
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: went there, Jeff, and they had me waiting. I got

983
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: off there at nine. I was there at five and

984
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: I got a red eye flight to London and I'm

985
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: still waiting for them to give me my passport. They

986
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: had my passport and I finally about six. And then

987
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: I live in West Covina, so you know, for distance

988
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: between that and Beverly Hills. They gave me a pass

989
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: way to run home pack because it was a red

990
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: eye fly eleven o'clock, come back to lax Jump on

991
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: the fly. Then I had to go. When I got

992
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: to London, I had to go to the I had

993
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: to go to Zambia and the embassy because we stopped

994
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 1: in Zambia to get a visa because I didn't have time.

995
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: And then after that, I don't know if you went

996
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: to we went to ten Downing Street. For all our

997
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: British listeners out there in the UK. That's that's that's

998
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: like the White House is where Jesse met with Margaret Thatcher.

999
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: And were you on that part of the leg or

1000
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: did you join us in Zambia.

1001
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 7: I joined you all in Zambia. So but I joined

1002
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 7: the heat throw and yeah, and it was it was

1003
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 7: quite a thrill, you know, I'd tell people, you know,

1004
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 7: when you're documenting something like history in this glory, it's

1005
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 7: not always glorious.

1006
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 10: You know.

1007
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 7: But before I ever saw Nelson Mandela, I was, you know,

1008
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 7: get into that fight of hey, what is it going

1009
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 7: to take to get all this expensive camera gear across

1010
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 7: the globe and so yeah, getting all the cardinats, making

1011
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 7: sure the gear was prepped. Of course, Quincy and those guys,

1012
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 7: we decided to rent camera gear, and renting camera gear

1013
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 7: can be somewhat of a toy. So I was fighting

1014
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 7: a lot of different technical things throughout that era, and

1015
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 7: that's kind of a backstory, some things that people don't

1016
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 7: know about. But you know, I just found it being

1017
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 7: an honor to be able to take upon a task.

1018
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 7: And again it was just one man, one person. You know,

1019
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 7: camera gear and all that. It requires assistance, someone to

1020
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 7: watch your back, to help you out carry heavy gear.

1021
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 7: But no, you know, it was just muscling up. Getting

1022
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 7: ready for the task is like you know, going into

1023
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 7: guerrilla war man, so you put your thinking cap on.

1024
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 7: But you have to keep a calm and cool head

1025
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 7: going through customs because one of the snag can hold

1026
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 7: you up or you know, put a dent in your armor.

1027
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 7: So I was very I'm very honored to be here

1028
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 7: today and to talk about this.

1029
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, because not many people can share this story, but

1030
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: you and I and Revend Jackson's got some health challenges

1031
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: and Nelson Mandela is not here. Thirteen minutes at the

1032
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: top of that family with award winning journalists photo journalist

1033
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: Jeff Nichols and he took the picture to the interviews

1034
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: with with the Nelson Mandela the back in the day.

1035
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: As we mentioned, he picked us. We flew from London

1036
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: to Zambia, Lusaka, Zambia, and they sort of had a

1037
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: state dinner first, they had a a moticate. We got

1038
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: off the plane, Jeff, so at some point, so you

1039
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: were you at the state dinner that we had with

1040
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: Kenneth Cajunda, the president of Zambia. Were you there at

1041
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: that dinner?

1042
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 7: So you know it's you know, you bringing up dinner.

1043
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 7: We're talking about food. I'm sure you're talking about food,

1044
00:58:55,080 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 7: which I'll t retalely love food, but no, I was

1045
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 7: not at the steak dinner. I was, you know, I

1046
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 7: watched people have steak dinner. But the backstory of it

1047
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 7: all is I was in a fight with camera gear,

1048
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 7: which should have been assisting me at that point. It

1049
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 7: was a wrestling match with camera gear. The motors went out,

1050
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 7: the battery chargers died, so I was stuck in the room,

1051
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 7: actually on the phone with my engineer back in the States,

1052
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 7: wiring a battery charger. And at that point it took

1053
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 7: quite a while and no, no one never acknowledged me

1054
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 7: at that point. But there are some other things and

1055
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 7: will be told, you know, in a positive sense, because

1056
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 7: you know the reality is when you're going through a struggle,

1057
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 7: you know there's two things you can do. Don't give

1058
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 7: up and don't give up. And that's what I did

1059
00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 7: not do because a documentary had to be done. Awful

1060
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 7: message you needed to be conquered. And what I did

1061
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 7: is not be on measure, but something that should have

1062
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 7: never happened. So but guess what, Carl, I made it through. No,

1063
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 7: I did not eat best steak dinner.

1064
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 5: I smelled it.

1065
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you're working out your produc because people

1066
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: don't understand when you overseas and and you you got

1067
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: technical issues and you don't know who to turn to.

1068
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: You don't know who in that country to ask to

1069
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: help you. So you're calling back to back to La

1070
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: to get help. But listen, we come upon a break.

1071
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: When we come back, though, we're gonna share with you.

1072
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: You put it in the words what happened after we

1073
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: got on that flight from Zambia and Kenneth and Cajunda's

1074
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: a private jet. We flew to Johannesburg. We got to

1075
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: joe Berg that time. The airport now is all of

1076
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: the Tambo airport. Back then it was Chance Smuts. He's

1077
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: still this is still a part of going on. Family

1078
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: when this was going on, Jeff's gonna tell his story

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Speaker 1: when I get back. You got questions, reach out to

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Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight

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Speaker 1: seventy six and the ticket calls next.

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Speaker 3: I'm a cameraman.

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Speaker 13: And there is a world that lives inside our heads

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Speaker 13: most people never see. January nineteen ninety, Quincy Jones Entertainment

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Speaker 13: hired my production company First Take Productions to document events

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Speaker 13: surrounding the release of Nelson Mandela alongside Jesse Jackson. I

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Speaker 13: had no way of knowing that the journey would change

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Speaker 13: the way I understood humanity, fear, and hope forever. Sixteen

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Speaker 13: days before his release, it was just me and a camera.

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Speaker 13: Operating a moving picture camera is not about pressing record,

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Speaker 13: is about holding time in your hands. Each shot last

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Speaker 13: eight to fifteen seconds, long enough to become a block

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Speaker 13: of life that can later be shaped into history. During

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Speaker 13: those seconds, I'm pulling focus up close and from more

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Speaker 13: than one hundred and fifty feet away, analyzing the eyes

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Speaker 13: of motions, hands, body language, measuring light, monitoring sound through headphones,

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Speaker 13: watching my footing, protecting the people around me, and absorbing everything.

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Speaker 3: Happening at once. You do not observe history from a distance.

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Speaker 3: You stand inside it.

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Speaker 13: Before Mandela's release, we traveled to Lusaka, Zambia, where we

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Speaker 13: met with leaders of the African National Congress. Days later,

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Speaker 13: we entered Crossroads, a shanty town of ten roofs and

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Speaker 13: dirt roads. Jesse Jackson spoke, hundreds, gathered people, rejoiced to.

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Speaker 3: Hope, moved through the crowd like electricity. Then we left.

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Speaker 13: Minutes later we returned and the air had changed. The

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Speaker 13: sounds of joy are transformed into cries of pain and terror.

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Speaker 13: I saw dust rising, people running in every direction. A

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Speaker 13: man was carried by four women bleeding people screw, I

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Speaker 13: mean they're shooting. The police are shooting. And I was alone,

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Speaker 13: back pedaling while filming chaos, no assisting, no spotter. When

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Speaker 13: I heard it, click click, click, everything went silent. Four

1112
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Speaker 13: AK forty seven's cocked and loaded were pointed directly at me.

1113
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 13: The officers were shouting, demanding my camera.

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Speaker 3: I saw fear in their eyes.

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Speaker 13: I stayed calm, back and away slowly, my eyes locked

1116
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Speaker 13: with theirs. No more than ten feet from the barrels.

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Speaker 13: Time felt suspended, as if someone had pressed the slow

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Speaker 13: motion button on reality itself, and I turned and ran.

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Speaker 13: I ran with the certainty the bullets will tear through

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Speaker 13: my back. I felt myself falling, hands scrambling, camera lifted

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Speaker 13: instinctively into the air, Convinced I was about to die. Somehow,

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Speaker 13: I reached the vehicle, jumped into the driver's seat, and

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Speaker 13: drove us out myself. That footage, the footage they tried

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Speaker 13: to take, was later requested by every major network. Dan

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Speaker 13: rather Tom broke out, seeing that history had turned violent,

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Speaker 13: and the camera never blinked. February eleven, nine to ninety

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Speaker 13: Cape Town, South Africa. But Dan Nelson Mandela was released.

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Speaker 13: The streets exploded with humanity. Crowds flooded every space. As

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Speaker 13: we drove into city Hall, people climbed onto our van

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Speaker 13: until it began to crushing, where the air inside disappeared.

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Speaker 13: A woman near me nearly collapsed. I helped to steady yourself.

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Speaker 3: That I made a decision.

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Speaker 13: Only a camera man understands the story demanded hype perspective.

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Speaker 13: I climbed out, looking for a perch position. A young

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Speaker 13: man standing thirty feet above the crowd, and what was

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01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 13: truly a super Bowl seat of history, gave up his

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Speaker 13: position for me. Because of him, the world could see

1138
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 13: what freedom looked like from above. Helicopters hovered overhead, tear

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01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 13: gas canister just ready to be dropped. You could feel

1140
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 13: fear rippled through thousands of people at once, like a

1141
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 13: living thing. And there I stood, camera on my shoulder,

1142
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Speaker 13: waiting Later that evening and so went. Standing in the

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Speaker 13: front yard part of Nelson Mandela's home, phoicographers captured history

1144
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 13: from still frames. One of those images placed me in

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Speaker 13: the center, shoulder to shoulder with Nelson Mandela and Jesse

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Speaker 13: Jackson alongside Winnie Mandela and Jacqueline Jackson. That photograph ran

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Speaker 13: on the front page of the Washington Post.

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Speaker 3: I was there not as a spectator, but.

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Speaker 13: As the only moving picture witness. Later, I stood inside

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Speaker 13: Nelson Mandela's bedroom, just me, Nelson, Mandela, Jesse, Jackson, card Nelson,

1151
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 13: no crowd, no noise, no spectacle. But Mandela's voice was gentle.

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01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 13: The room itself seemed to speak of freedom. I was

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Speaker 13: the only moving picture cameraman ever allowed to document that space,

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Speaker 13: that moment, that silence. What stays with me most enough

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01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 13: the headlines or the axes. It is the hunger I

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Speaker 13: saw in children's eyes, the love exchange between strangers, the crying,

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Speaker 13: the hope.

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Speaker 1: Those things never leave you.

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Speaker 13: This story will become a book because the world needs

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Speaker 13: to understand what I saw through the lens, Through the

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Speaker 13: holy lens of the Creator of our souls. There is

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Speaker 13: only one race of people, a human race, many hues

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01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 13: of color, like a beautiful flower patch, not boring but

1164
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 13: wonderfully made my guide in Mantra Conkers. The truth did

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Speaker 13: not come from theory or belief. It came from standing

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Speaker 13: inside history with a camera on my shoulder and Jesus

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Speaker 13: by my side.

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Speaker 5: This was sun.

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Speaker 1: What happened was released thirty six years ago today. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: that's that was pretty good man. I gotta say those

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01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: pretty goods. You told a story like it was. That's

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Speaker 1: so I wanted the family to hear it. But you know,

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Speaker 1: that particular day that happened, it was almost surreal if

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Speaker 1: you can recall after well, there's so many, so many

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Speaker 1: issues to talk about, Jeff. We talked about when Mandela

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Speaker 1: was released and everybody, I guess the whole world was

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Speaker 1: washing and when he came out of John Vosh the

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Speaker 1: prison with his fish and clintch Fish, when when met

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Speaker 1: in Mandela. They we got the call we had to

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Speaker 1: go to Cape Town City Hall tell us about the

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Speaker 1: crowd was there. I don't think people understand what it

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Speaker 1: was like, but go ahead.

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Speaker 7: Yeah they they they never will call. And I can

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01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 7: feel that that that that crushing blow of arms and

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Speaker 7: sweat and breast and and the body language that was

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Speaker 7: happening around us. I mean you when when you're inside

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Speaker 7: of a van and a vehicle that you're protecting, you're

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Speaker 7: found as protection and you feel that weight of people

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Speaker 7: crushing that band. It was. It was very fun to

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Speaker 7: me because I've never experienced that because as a camera person,

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Speaker 7: as a documentary you know, I've been in some really

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Speaker 7: sketchy situations. I've been in drug raids, riots, I've been

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Speaker 7: shot at, I've had bullets whiz by my ear. I mean,

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Speaker 7: the instinct that ngulps me allows me to survive in

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Speaker 7: most situations where most people buckle. So my history is very,

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Speaker 7: very deep. I've been doing this since I was twenty

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Speaker 7: two years old, and I was at a very high

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Speaker 7: level of what we call experience. So when I got

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Speaker 7: into this business, Just to give a little backstory, I

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Speaker 7: got into the business and I was fired three times

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Speaker 7: for doing the best job. But every time they fired me,

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01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 7: they moved me up the ladder. So I end up

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Speaker 7: taking people's jobs. So we know how that goes. But

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01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 7: so far as surviving that particular incident, it all comes

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Speaker 7: back from the foundations in my life. So that moment

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Speaker 7: out on the boy, I said, get out the van.

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Speaker 7: The van is crushing and we have no air. How

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01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 7: did you get air? You get out and you guys

1209
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 7: weren't getting out fast enough. So but we did call

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Speaker 7: and I tell you, man, the people weren't doing that

1211
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 7: out of any kind of negative sense. They thought that

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Speaker 7: I don't know. I know it was through love. It

1213
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 7: was through love and excitement. They just didn't know how

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Speaker 7: to express it right.

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Speaker 1: But here a twenty seven at the top there family

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Speaker 1: just checking in. An award winning photo journalist, a realist,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Nichols. Jeff was there when Mandela was released. I

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Speaker 1: was along with Jeff there at that particular day. But Jeff,

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Speaker 1: let's go back over to Crossroads, a Cape Town and

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Speaker 1: a little background for the family. Back then, Apartheider was

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Speaker 1: still in process. You know, so there were certain places

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Speaker 1: as a black person you cannot go in South Africa.

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Speaker 1: That's for all blacks. It doesn't matter who you are.

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Speaker 1: So and so. In uh Johannesburg, most of the blacks

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Speaker 1: living Soweto and they have to have a pass to

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Speaker 1: come into joe Burg to Johannesburg. Same thing in Cape Town,

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Speaker 1: most of the blacks living Crossroads. Jeff, do you remember.

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Speaker 1: Let me just shout out our listeners in the UK

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Speaker 1: because they don't know these names. Bernie Bernie, Bernie Grant,

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Speaker 1: he's now deceased. He's a member of parliament. And Diane Abbott.

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Speaker 1: Diane Abbott, I think she was the youngest of black

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Speaker 1: member of Parliament in the UK. They were with us

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Speaker 1: on the bus when we we and now figured out

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Speaker 1: I'll put this equations together, Jeff, because they they Margaret

1235
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Speaker 1: Thatcher is the one who met with the clerk who

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Speaker 1: convinced him to release Nelson Mandela. So I'm not sure

1237
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: if they had it, if they were sent by Margaret Thatcher,

1238
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Speaker 1: the British Prime Minister to come down and watch it,

1239
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: but they were there on that bus when when the

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Speaker 1: shooting starts. I'll let you tell that particular story, Jeff,

1241
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Speaker 1: when oh.

1242
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Speaker 7: Wow, are we talking about the crossroads in.

1243
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 10: Oh?

1244
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 7: That was? That was monumental. I mean, I know we

1245
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 7: have such a small the time to get in these

1246
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 7: ton sound bites in but let me just say it

1247
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 7: like this. When you when you leave a beautiful pitch

1248
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 7: and you come back and it's marred by mud and

1249
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 7: violence and blood, what do you do? You capture that moment?

1250
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 7: And that's what I did. I capture that moment. But

1251
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 7: the little gut of the people had guns pointed at me, saying, listen,

1252
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 7: give us what you've captured, because we cannot let this

1253
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 7: information go out. So I just went into survival mode,

1254
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 7: and that's what I do every time. Survive, subvive, but

1255
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 7: guess what conquer Because a lot of people started a race,

1256
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 7: but can they finish the race? So what I did

1257
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 7: when I turned I ran urd it on the music

1258
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 7: there the spoken word it was like, you don't get

1259
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 7: the camera, you don't get me. If you want it,

1260
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 7: you get everything at once, and I'm leaving. So that's

1261
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 7: what I did. I panted that dance, survival mode got

1262
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 7: in and you know, the guy wasn't moving fast enough,

1263
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 7: so I jumped, I pushed him on the way and

1264
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 7: put it in gear and we drove out. And I

1265
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 7: didn't recall we drove out.

1266
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, And at lest you gotta understand, folks, we're

1267
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: in a place where we don't even know. We didn't know.

1268
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 1: This is the first time in Cape Town. Doesn't know

1269
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: anything about Cape Town and Crossroads. This is what they are.

1270
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 1: They like basically ghettos, black ghettos. So black people had

1271
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: to live. They couldn't live in major cities back then.

1272
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: And so when we got there, they had a rally

1273
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 1: or something was going on, and then the shots were fired.

1274
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 1: I mentioned Diane Abbott and Bernie Grant from the UK.

1275
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 1: They was with us on that bus and they were

1276
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: running back into the bus and Jeff and myself were

1277
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: running towards where you know, the journals. We're running towards

1278
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: what's going on, trying to figure out this part of

1279
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: the story, what's going on, And that's when the shooting started.

1280
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 1: That's when they tried to get Jeff's camera and he

1281
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,679
Speaker 1: had to act. Really, we had to act real quickly

1282
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 1: to get out of that. But I remember Bernie Grant,

1283
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: he said, I didn't come here to get shot. I

1284
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 1: didn't come any pushed me trying to get back on

1285
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:52,799
Speaker 1: the bus. But God blessing me, Bernie Grant from North London.

1286
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: I really that.

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01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 7: But yeah, yeah, you know, now you're picking that little

1288
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 7: inter side of me because as a cameraman, you're using

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Speaker 7: you know, three eyes and that's not three but six.

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Speaker 7: You're you're using that that front uh vision, you use

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Speaker 7: that peneral vision, and then you're grabbing things inside of

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Speaker 7: your emotion so that you just survive what you're going

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Speaker 7: to do, not fall, you know, don't break your camera.

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Speaker 7: I remember that. So, yeah, you didn't come there to

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Speaker 7: get shot, none of us did. But the thing about

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Speaker 7: it called it touched my heart because people as a

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Speaker 7: camera person, you know, I'm I'm watching the people. I'm

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Speaker 7: I'm absorbing their energy. And what I remember, and it's funny,

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Speaker 7: are the colors that come and had you know, there's

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Speaker 7: they cover their heads. It's the colors, the reds, the blues,

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Speaker 7: all those things that tell who they are. You know,

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Speaker 7: one thing about people is we see people, but do

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Speaker 7: we really absorb that person as an individual? And as

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Speaker 7: a camera person, you're standing side by side with somebody

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Speaker 7: and you have to hold your position. So I remember

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Speaker 7: the warmth and that you believe. And so coming back

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01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 7: to that chaos, that struck me as like, okay, get it,

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01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 7: what's going on? And that's what we did. It's just

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Speaker 7: mind boggling. But that's there's more to be told, you know,

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Speaker 7: the book will be told. We'll be rich and how

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Speaker 7: about that man?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and actually this is building up to family.

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Speaker 1: We got the first interview with Nelson, Mandela and Jefferson

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Speaker 1: camera man, and the only persons in the room was Mandela.

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Speaker 1: I was sitting beside Mandela was sitting in between me

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Speaker 1: and Jesse's and I was asking the questions and Jeff

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Speaker 1: was filming it. There was just it was sort of

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Speaker 1: a surreal moment, if you will. Yeah, Jeff, can you

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Speaker 1: explain the moment though, because we were part of history

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Speaker 1: and not knowing the part of history at the same time,

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Speaker 1: You're like, wow, I'm sitting here next to Nelson Mandela.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, you know, I'm trying to look at

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01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 7: these these words that I wrote on paper, and between

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Speaker 7: each particular you know, scenario, it comes down to the

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Speaker 7: Adela moment.

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Speaker 14: You know.

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Speaker 7: Uh, I just I'm just being in that room with him. Man,

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Speaker 7: this this calmness that came about. And I'm looking at

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Speaker 7: this guy who went in gray, who went in as

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Speaker 7: a young man. He came out gray. He didn't come

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Speaker 7: out you know. I don't know was it tarnished at

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Speaker 7: that moment, but he had this overwhelming spirit that told

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Speaker 7: you me and Jesse that hey, I'm home, but I

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Speaker 7: came and I got work to do. The life is

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Speaker 7: not lived. The moment is here, but there's work to

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Speaker 7: be done.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 7: It was just it was, like I said, it was surreal.

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Speaker 7: And and a shirt. You know, I have a shirt

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Speaker 7: that he signed personally, you know, yes, I do. Uh,

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Speaker 7: I have that. And I got a lot of great footage,

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Speaker 7: video footage that needs to be edited together so to

1343
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Speaker 7: show the people that who weren't there what really took place.

1344
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 7: And hopefully you and I can get together and get

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Speaker 7: that done.

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Speaker 1: Girl twenty sticks Away from the Top Half Family Nicholas

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01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 1: Award winning journalists. They were in South Africa thirty six

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Speaker 1: years ago today. You know we're there. We were had

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01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: the first interview with Nelson Mandela. Jeff was a camera

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01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 1: run I was doing the interview of Jesse was sitting

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01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,679
Speaker 1: right beside and this is in Mandela's bedroom in so WEO.

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01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 1: This is the next day. And let me talk about

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01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: the first day when we went to Cape Town City Hall, Jeff,

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01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 1: and there was a guy from CBS out of Chicago,

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01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: a brother, and he actually was supposed to do the

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01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 1: first interview with He's going live to Chicago, and he

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01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,759
Speaker 1: just broke down in tears and couldn't speak. It's almost

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01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: as he frulius. And Jesse snatched his mic and gave

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01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: it to me and you know, we're going live to

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01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 1: Sha said mister Mandela, how's it feel to be free?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: And he says, I may be feel but South Africa

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01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: isn't free. And he kept repeating that refrain even all

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Speaker 1: the after the interviews. So that to me was just

1365
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: like it was just I can't, I can't explain it.

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Speaker 1: It's just surreal to be in that moment because you

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01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 1: know you're part of history and you see any up

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01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: closer in front impersonal. The whole world, if you can

1369
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 1: recall Jeff, the whole world was trying to get all

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01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: these people are trying to get interviews with Mandela. They

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Speaker 1: were all these journals, not not just us, We're talking

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01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 1: about the entire world, Japanese, Korean, British, French. They were

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01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: trying to get into Mandela's home uh in Soweto and

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Speaker 1: the young brothers the spear of the nation. These young

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01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,679
Speaker 1: brothers that were guns were you know, guarding the place,

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01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 1: and they had you had the regular South Africans who

1377
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 1: were trying to get in just to just to say

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01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 1: hi to Mandela. We're on the inside. It was it

1379
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 1: was kind of remarkable. But you know, I'll let you

1380
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: tell the story. We come up on breaks, so when

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Speaker 1: we come back for the break, I'll let you tell

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01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 1: the story. Because after the interview family Uh, it was

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01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 1: discussing with winning winning Mandela and she had all these, uh,

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Speaker 1: these telegrams from all over the world. I mean the

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01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: entire in her kitchen were just covered with all these telegrams.

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01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 1: But after the interview, then we went out into the

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Speaker 1: courtyards the house where he was and there was still

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01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 1: all these reporters. Get and then Jeff and I had

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01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: had this story. So let Jeff do a pick it

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01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: up when we get back twenty four minutes away from

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Speaker 1: the top day our found He says, day that Nelson

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Speaker 1: Mandela got released and we would bear at in Cape Town.

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Speaker 1: And so when he got released, what are your thoughts?

1394
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: You got questions? Reach out to us at eight hundred

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Speaker 1: four five zero seventy eighth seventy six and we're taking

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Speaker 1: cause after we check the news.

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Speaker 5: That's next.

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising family interesting with us on this Wednesday morning.

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01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: It's a hump day. That means we're halfway through the

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Speaker 1: work week. It's seventeen minutes away from the top of

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Speaker 1: the hour. Our guess is Jeff Nichols. Jeffs is an

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Speaker 1: award winning photo jourlist. Jeff was realis in South Africa

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Speaker 1: today thirty six years ago and Nelson Mandela was released.

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01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 1: He got the first group with Mandela. He was the

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01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: first cameraman there, so tell us his story before we

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01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 1: go back to him. Though, let me remind you. Coming

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01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: up later this morning, we're gonna speak with doctor B

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01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 1: Doctor Be. He's gonna talk about his new book. And

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01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 1: tomorrow we're gonna speak with Grio and Quans have created

1410
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: doctor Milana Kringer, also a music historian. Bill Coveringer will

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01:18:58,320 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: be with us. So if you are in Baltimore, make

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Speaker 1: you're your radio's locked in tight on ten ten WLB,

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Speaker 1: or if you're in the DMV on fourteen fifty w L.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Ja Marie has a question. First, he's online one

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising. J Marie, you're on with Jeff Nichols, Grand.

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Speaker 6: Rising, Good morning.

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01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 15: I just want to know your thoughts on AI, the

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01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 15: use of AI with these historical primary sources. You see

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01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 15: a lot of AI things online now, how people are

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01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 15: taking you know.

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Speaker 6: Original primary sources and kind of I don't want to

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01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,600
Speaker 6: say distorting them, But what's your thoughts on that?

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01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 7: So you're asking me about technology.

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01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 11: Technology, Yeah, I think you.

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01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 8: Can hate it.

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01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 7: I don't want I think you cannot stop it. I

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01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 7: think that as technology, I use it one hundred and

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01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 7: what I see is a technology that can help shape positivity.

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01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 7: I'm all about positivity.

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01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 5: So what I do with AI.

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01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 7: My thoughts, I give it my inter soul, my spirit,

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01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 7: and it helps to spit out what I'm really deeply standing,

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01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 7: because you have to understand not everybody can put everything

1434
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 7: into correct wordings. So if you're saying, hey, AI, and

1435
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 7: create me a recipe, then it creates your recipe.

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01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 3: Is your heart?

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01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 7: No, hey AI, give me a nice U coming uh

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01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 7: speech to comfort a widow, then.

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Speaker 5: That's not your heart.

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01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 7: That's a machine doing the work. So I believe that

1441
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 7: if you're going to use technology, you make it your own.

1442
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 7: Because what I do with the camera, when you think

1443
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 7: about it, I know we got to get this really going.

1444
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:43,679
Speaker 7: I think AI is awesome.

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01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 5: It's just how you use it, all.

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01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,599
Speaker 1: Right, thank you, thank you, yeah, thank you, jam Marie,

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01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,679
Speaker 1: thank you for your question. H fifteen away from the topic.

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01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 1: Let's get back to what the what we were there for.

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01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 1: I got a tweeter sent me a question for you, Jeff,

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01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: so let me ask a ques because you know we're

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01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: out there and all everybody's trying to get this interview

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01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 1: with Nelson Mandela, and the tweeter says, out of all

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01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 1: the people in the world and all the journalists. So

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01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 1: why do you think that God puts you in that

1455
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: historical moment?

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01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 7: So you're ask me what God?

1457
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 14: What God?

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01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 5: Did you know?

1459
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 4: Right?

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01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: Do you think God chose you?

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01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 7: They said, basically the true Michael Witness, Carl, what are

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01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 7: we doing here, my friend? Because guess what, I know

1463
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 7: the spirit's movement because I just wrote on a piece

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01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:26,680
Speaker 7: of paper what.

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01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 1: Is this all about?

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01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 7: And then I talked about God. I look at this,

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01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 7: here's what we need to take away because family, we're

1468
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:37,959
Speaker 7: getting tripped up and pimped and played. Love is required,

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01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:41,679
Speaker 7: Forgiveness is required. But one thing we cannot do is forget.

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01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 7: So you need to pray for that. So I pray

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Speaker 7: to forget. Only God can forget. What if I had

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Speaker 7: to do it all over again, I wouldn't do anything different.

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01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 7: I'll keep loving, keep forgiving, and pray to help forget.

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Speaker 7: Because what is this all about?

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01:21:58,200 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 5: It's about me?

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01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 7: About me, you know, not all about me, But it's

1477
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Speaker 7: about shaping our youth. That's what I'm all about. I'm

1478
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:07,719
Speaker 7: about shaping the youth. And that has been my calling.

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01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 7: And so all this, Mandela, everything that I've been rested upon,

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01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 7: is to help the youth to survive. And that's what

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Speaker 7: I do. I have a foundation called there to make

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01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 7: a difference. I call it dt MAD and it's going

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01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 7: to be so powerful man. And that's what I do

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01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 7: every day every I've been working with youth since nineteen

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Speaker 7: ninety no way beyond that. Actually, So God has given

1486
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 7: me a calling to help rise up, to raise up

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Speaker 7: those beautiful patches of flowers, every hue, not just one color,

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Speaker 7: all hues. And that's what this is about for me.

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Speaker 14: This is my job.

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Speaker 1: Go back thirty six years ago today, after the interview

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Speaker 1: that Jess was telling it. You know Carol Simpson, I say,

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Speaker 1: I don't know her, but I know what she looks like.

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01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: She I think she got the second interview. But talk

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01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 1: to us, Jeff, because you're when the Washington Post came

1495
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: by to do the to do the interview, and I

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Speaker 1: think you were on the cover above the fold of

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Speaker 1: the post. Do you share that with us? What happened there?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's that moment in the front yard May

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Speaker 7: front page of the Washington Post. A little did I know?

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Speaker 7: I think people had seen this back in the States

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Speaker 7: and then like you were in South Africa, like, how

1502
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 7: did you know that? And so yeah, it was picture

1503
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 7: paper televised if you want to put it that way up.

1504
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 7: And that was a moment. So there's proof that we

1505
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 7: were there. Call I was there. And then between Jess

1506
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 7: and Mandela at that time, you know, man, I got

1507
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 7: to write the book, but I tell you what I

1508
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,799
Speaker 7: felt between the two was like, hey, let's do this picture.

1509
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 7: But at the same time, it's put on a smile.

1510
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 7: You know, you had hundreds of photographers, you know, climbing

1511
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,759
Speaker 7: that wall. Remember they climbed over. They weren't they couldn't

1512
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 7: come over the wall, but they were snapping shots and

1513
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 7: it was just slick through the moment. But I think

1514
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 7: for me it was just to actually be there and

1515
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 7: absorb everything that the Reverend Jackson, what he gon had

1516
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 7: to do, and what Mandela stood for.

1517
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and shout out to to Rev. Because I know

1518
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 1: he's got some health challenges today, else we would have

1519
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 1: him here to tell the story of what went down

1520
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 1: all into that because the backstory again with Margaret Thatcher

1521
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 1: telling the clerk that he had to you know, he

1522
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 1: had to release Mandela. I didn't find out this until

1523
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: afterwards because I thought we're just going to go to

1524
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 1: you know, to be hearing about Nelson Mandald, the A

1525
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,560
Speaker 1: and C being on the run, and then finally this

1526
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 1: he's going to get released. I didn't think it was

1527
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 1: gonna get reached. I thought it was just going to

1528
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,959
Speaker 1: go to South Africa and just filmed with the revolution

1529
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 1: with the A n C. And he actually was you know, afterwards,

1530
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 1: when we got back and flying back and got to Kennedy,

1531
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: I said, I said, did you know he was going?

1532
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 1: He says, yeah, so that was the deal of it.

1533
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 1: Cut and and uh you know that he was upfront

1534
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 1: with it as well, but it was it was again,

1535
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 1: it was it was surreal to be in his house,

1536
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 1: in his bedroom. This is the day after family, this

1537
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:06,759
Speaker 1: is the day and we've got every single uh reporter

1538
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: newspaper from around the world we're trying to get in.

1539
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:12,600
Speaker 1: There was there was and I say this because I

1540
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 1: can see vividly, there was Jeff behind the camera. There

1541
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:19,759
Speaker 1: was me, Mandela and Jesse in his bedroom and asking

1542
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 1: what was going on, and basically he was saying that

1543
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: you know, I may be free, but South Africa is

1544
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 1: not free because at that time it was still apartheid.

1545
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 1: The blacks in South Africa and they This is another thing, Jeff,

1546
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 1: that I found out. They thought that Jesse was our leader.

1547
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 1: They thought because the clerk was the leader for the whites,

1548
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 1: they for them Mandela was their leader. So they thought

1549
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 1: that Jesse was was Black America's leader. We had we

1550
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 1: had two co presidents, if you will, So that was

1551
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: interesting having conversations with some of them. But it was

1552
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 1: if you, if you can help us paying the pressure

1553
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: because I think Dan rather than all his folks were

1554
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 1: trying to get your taper as well. If you could

1555
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 1: share that with us, you know, I'll.

1556
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 7: Say this call, I have this. Yes, not everything is

1557
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 7: meant for a microphone. Some moments are meant to shape you,

1558
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,640
Speaker 7: not be explained. So I have a whole lot of backstory,

1559
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 7: a lot of secrets, you know, a secrets what have you? Uh,

1560
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,759
Speaker 7: I see the truth will die with me. That things

1561
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 7: that will die with me. But I speak on a

1562
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 7: lighter level. That request for that media, uh it said

1563
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 7: something you know, but did they get that? No, they

1564
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 7: never saw it. I have that footage Monday. I'll I

1565
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 7: don't know, I just it never got out. It was

1566
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 7: it was a request. It was a call from around

1567
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 7: the world, almost lost my life, you know, I lost

1568
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 7: life inside my head man getting that footage because instinct

1569
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 7: it is required in.

1570
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 5: A moment's notice.

1571
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 7: Most camera guys don't have that instinct to jump to

1572
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 7: that kind of thing. I was in them the DOJ

1573
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 7: Simpson trial. I was speaking, we're just switching gears. I've

1574
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 7: been in this house. I've been a lot. I've been

1575
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 7: in a lot of places. I've done a lot of

1576
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 7: great things where most men about my color never would

1577
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 7: have the opportunity. So I just think that being there

1578
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 7: in South Africa, having that take, being in that moment,

1579
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 7: you know, is shaped my life. Man is shaped it.

1580
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 7: No woman ever knows.

1581
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again Luke got thank Quincy for for you know,

1582
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,560
Speaker 1: if we're putting up the money stus, you could go

1583
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: so this could this could happen. You know, people don't

1584
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:32,640
Speaker 1: know the background, the backstory of how it all came

1585
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 1: about Quincy instead of coming together. You know, it's some

1586
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: of the backstory that it happened, that how people could

1587
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 1: see that Mandela was being released, and then I just

1588
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,640
Speaker 1: keep finally reports back to the station about what was

1589
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 1: going on, and they would send it to all the

1590
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 1: other black stations because we knew we wanted to tell

1591
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 1: our story. We know that and we've heard it. We

1592
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 1: talk about it so much on this program, Uh, Jeff

1593
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 1: that if we don't tell our story, somebody else will

1594
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 1: and they'll have another different story of how Mandela was

1595
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 1: released and how it impacted not just black South Africans,

1596
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 1: it impacted the black world. When you say that everybody

1597
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: was there, when I say everybody with all the germs

1598
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 1: from all over the world were trying to get in,

1599
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 1: and you and I were in there. You were because

1600
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: I went Somemer. I think I was in the kitchen

1601
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,679
Speaker 1: target so on the winter Mandela and you were outside

1602
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,640
Speaker 1: when the Washington Post finally got in to get the

1603
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 1: picture with you. And who else was in that picture?

1604
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 1: I think Jesse was in that picture with you and

1605
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: Jesse's wife Jacqueline Jackson.

1606
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, they climbed. What happened is, you know, that was

1607
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 7: a huge privacy fence. If you can think about it

1608
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 7: being you know, like ten feet it felt like it

1609
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 7: was like twenty feet high. But people are intrigue limbs.

1610
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 7: That's what these photographers. They won't pop a Rozzi style,

1611
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 7: So that picture basically, yeah, that photographer, I can't remember

1612
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 7: where his positioning was, but it was off limits to

1613
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 7: a lot of the world. We were in that exclusive area.

1614
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 7: So yes, what Desmond two two was there when we

1615
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,839
Speaker 7: were there, We're having dinner. You know, the smells inside

1616
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 7: the kitchen, it was warm, it was gloring, but outside

1617
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,680
Speaker 7: that was some bit of a chaos because people are

1618
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 7: struggling trying to get a picture that one small snapshot.

1619
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 7: So it's just a moment in time. Man, it's so

1620
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 7: much to be told, family, But I do want to

1621
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 7: say this. We need to lead our young people in

1622
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:29,640
Speaker 7: the right direction. We need to hold our hearts not

1623
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 7: in our hands, but above our heads because there's so

1624
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 7: much choking at our mental state of mind and we

1625
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 7: just are falling for it. We've been falling for it

1626
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 7: as a human race for years and it won't stop.

1627
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 7: So my job is to tell the truth, the hole truth,

1628
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 7: and nothing but the truth. So it's coming, my friend,

1629
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 7: and I thank you Card for this moment. I thank you.

1630
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 1: Family, well, I thank you for recording that that historical

1631
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 1: interview with NASA, Mandela and myself, you know, and Reverend

1632
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:04,599
Speaker 1: Jackson was right beside, he was on the other side,

1633
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 1: and he's given me the looks about it because you know,

1634
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 1: I didn't have a crib sheet or anything or but

1635
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 1: but he he could. It was easy interview. You know

1636
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 1: sometimes you have a crib sheet. Make sure you asked this,

1637
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 1: make sure you asked that, you know that. But it flowed,

1638
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 1: you know, just asking what he was doing, what was

1639
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 1: he like being on the run, because that's where I

1640
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 1: first heard about now Nelson Mandela and the AGEC. This

1641
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 1: is when they were banned and they're they're on the

1642
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 1: run quota and I used the term gorilla because you

1643
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:35,839
Speaker 1: know what our counties are, but that's what the warfare

1644
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 1: that his supporters were doing. At the a C. Everything

1645
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 1: was was was was off limits in South Africa. And

1646
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 1: again there's certain places we could even go. But what

1647
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 1: struck me though, Jeff, was that it was so modern Johannesburg.

1648
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:53,680
Speaker 1: I mean they had Yeah, if you could talk about that,

1649
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 1: everything that you think, the Wall Street Journal, the New

1650
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 1: York Times, all the newspapers same day you could keep

1651
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 1: at the hotel. It was because you thought about Africa.

1652
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 1: When you go to Johannesburg, it's like downtown l A.

1653
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 7: Oh my goodness, it was gorgeous. I've been in some

1654
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 7: wonderful places, beautiful places I've been, you know, home of

1655
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:20,759
Speaker 7: major movie stars. We're talking Quincy Jones, Michael Jackson, Sydney Partyer,

1656
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 7: you name it, George Quey, all of them. Brother. Uh,

1657
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 7: but I can tell you this that that hotel people

1658
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:28,680
Speaker 7: just don't know.

1659
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let me say I got to talk. That

1660
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:35,840
Speaker 1: hotel is one of the best hotels I've been in.

1661
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it was.

1662
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 5: It was.

1663
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 1: And we stopped in one in London on the West End,

1664
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 1: which is supposed a grand hotel. This one was way

1665
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 1: better in South Africa, way better. We got to zip

1666
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 1: beside and check the traffic, the weather in our different

1667
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 1: cities or four minutes away from the top of the way.

1668
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 1: Jeff Nicholas Award went in photographer. But we're talking about

1669
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 1: it is Nelson Antella. Here's released thirty six years ago

1670
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 1: in Kate Town. I let me see what we're discussing.

1671
01:31:59,200 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 5: What are your thoughts?

1672
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 1: Eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six country

1673
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: in the phone calls will be next a grand Rising family.

1674
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 1: Thanks for staying with us on this Wednesday morning. It's

1675
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 1: a hundea. We're halfway through the work week with our

1676
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 1: guest Jeff Nichols. Jeff is an award winning photo journalist

1677
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 1: with US in South Africa. He got the first interview

1678
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:25,680
Speaker 1: with Dlson Mandela. He recorded it and Jeff, I just

1679
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:27,679
Speaker 1: want to thank you for doing that and a couple

1680
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: of things before we let you go. Though, when Mandela

1681
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 1: came to LA, he came in and he came to

1682
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 1: the radio station, came in and he said he had

1683
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:36,560
Speaker 1: to meet Stevie Wonder because he because thanking him for

1684
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 1: letting us come to South Africa. Dos one. Then he

1685
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 1: wanted us to go to Detroit there at the same

1686
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 1: time at the NAACP convention, and one of those guys

1687
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 1: had a private jet want us to go to Detroit,

1688
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 1: you know, passed on that because we had to work.

1689
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 1: But what we did later we went to South Africa.

1690
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 1: We used to take our groups, our listeners every year

1691
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 1: to Africa, different African countries. And told him about that

1692
01:32:58,520 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 1: and he said, well, you got to come to South

1693
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 1: Africa first. It's different when you were there. So we

1694
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 1: went to South Africa. In fact, we did a live

1695
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 1: broadcast Jeff out of Mandela cell. We went to Robin

1696
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 1: Island and we had some of our listeners who listened

1697
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 1: to the program. We always take a group of listeners

1698
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 1: to us to Africa and they sat on the bed

1699
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:16,640
Speaker 1: was still there. You looked out the window and it

1700
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:21,560
Speaker 1: would live from Robbin Island and from Mandela Cell with

1701
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 1: the help of the South African Broadcasting Corporation because one

1702
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 1: of their officers in Cape Town and to send the

1703
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 1: signal back to LA So they we worked with them

1704
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 1: and when they found out that we did, that's not

1705
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:34,600
Speaker 1: the government said, They're not gonna happen because everybody's going

1706
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 1: to want to do that. So we're the only station

1707
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 1: to actually do that because they figured that all the

1708
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, radius from the country are going to come

1709
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 1: over and they so what they did. Now Robin Island,

1710
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 1: where he was in prison is a tourist, uh, tourist

1711
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 1: place for folks to go to. But I just wanted

1712
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 1: to share that. But Jeff, thank you again and thank

1713
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 1: you man for being there. And you know, we've got

1714
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 1: some history that we can share some other countries we've

1715
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 1: been to, but that's where another time. So want to

1716
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 1: thank you.

1717
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 5: Have we lost Jeff, I'm still here?

1718
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 1: Can you hear me?

1719
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 6: Oh?

1720
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can hear it.

1721
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 3: Now.

1722
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,760
Speaker 1: I just want to Thank you, Jeff, Thank you.

1723
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 7: Thank you, Carl. Thank you for your professionalism, professionalism and

1724
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 7: your due deal against my brother.

1725
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 1: Really appreciate it, all right, Thanks Jeh. All right, family,

1726
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 1: three out the top of us. Turn attention to our

1727
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 1: next guest, who happens to be a metaphysician is also

1728
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 1: a master herbalist. You've heard him before, doctor B. Grand Rising,

1729
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:32,839
Speaker 1: Doctor B. Welcome back to the program.

1730
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 5: Good day man, I'm honored to be here.

1731
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 14: How are you doing.

1732
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm still learning, doctor B. I'm still learning. How are

1733
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:39,920
Speaker 1: you doing, sir?

1734
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 5: I'm doing wonderful, you know, and it's important to keep

1735
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 5: learning because once you stop learning, you stop living. That's true.

1736
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 1: And ask you though the people ask you ever asked

1737
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:50,760
Speaker 1: you because your doctor B that they know that you

1738
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 1: you're a metaphysician, is also a master herbalist. People ask

1739
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 1: you how you're doing. They expect that you're always doing well.

1740
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 5: Well. It's kind of funny, you know, there's one group

1741
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 5: that ask me how I'm doing, but there's another group

1742
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 5: that don't care. They just want to know what I

1743
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 5: can do to help them how they're doing. You know,

1744
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 5: we live in a society where it's about me, you know,

1745
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 5: a lot, and it's not about we. But I love

1746
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,600
Speaker 5: when people say, how are you doing, doctor B? But

1747
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 5: I wonder if people really want to hear the truth?

1748
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 5: You know, what's says how you're doing? Do you really

1749
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 5: want to hear the actual truth? But yeah, I happen

1750
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 5: to be doing very well. I'm really excited. And you know,

1751
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 5: just with this big breakthrough that we've just had and

1752
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 5: or that we're experiencing here with this book has just

1753
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 5: changed everything. This is a game changer. So I'm excited.

1754
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 5: I'm ready willing because this is a new chapter in

1755
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 5: our lives.

1756
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 1: Right at far at the top day, I foundly just

1757
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 1: checking in doctor Baes. I guess doctor B is a

1758
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 1: metaphysician and a master herbalist. It's in a new book,

1759
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 1: What's Eating You? First of all, doctor B. What's up

1760
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 1: with the title?

1761
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 5: Well, you know that's an old statement we need to make,

1762
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 5: you know, back in the day where people will say,

1763
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 5: well once' wrong with him? Once you or what's eating him?

1764
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 5: Like something that's something's bugging you. And I just thought

1765
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 5: that it would be great to use that title because

1766
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 5: that is the question what is eating you? And most

1767
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 5: of what is going on with people is something that

1768
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 5: is eating them, either something's eating them mentally, something that

1769
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 5: is eating them physically, which are parasites, whether they're fungus

1770
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 5: or bacteria or viruses, and what's eating us spiritually? And

1771
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 5: another deep thing about that A lot of the food

1772
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 5: that we have chosen to eat is eating us.

1773
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 11: A lot of foods are actually they take.

1774
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 5: More energy to digest than they can give to you, and.

1775
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 11: They destroy your health.

1776
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,599
Speaker 5: Well, it's eating you, it's devouring you. So the book

1777
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 5: is an exposa about the many different things that we

1778
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 5: may have never thought about that are consuming our energy.

1779
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 5: And the reasons why we're not able to move ahead

1780
01:36:56,280 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 5: is quickly or to elevate our lives as quickly is

1781
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 5: because there's a lot of things we haven't really looked

1782
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:06,679
Speaker 5: at that is sucking us dry, draining our electricity, draining

1783
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:08,719
Speaker 5: our life. For So, the book talks a lot about

1784
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 5: all those things that we may not have even thought

1785
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 5: about that are eating us alive.

1786
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah six half that time, I have a doctor, Baile.

1787
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:19,599
Speaker 1: Let's let's break it down. Let's what's eating us mentally?

1788
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 1: How do you say that is it physically? Something going on?

1789
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 1: To explain what which you mean? Something's eating at us mentally.

1790
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,719
Speaker 5: Okay, First of all, whatever you eat has an effect

1791
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 5: on your thinking because your gut is your first brain,

1792
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 5: so your gut is connected directly to your cranial brain,

1793
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 5: which is actually the second brain. So what you eat

1794
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 5: has a lot to do with your mood, how you feel,

1795
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 5: how much energy you have. So your brain mentally is

1796
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 5: being affected right by this food or this anti food

1797
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 5: or this you know, a lot of times there's going

1798
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 5: to be food that is really a lot of what

1799
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 5: we're eating today is industrial waste. We don't even realize

1800
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,680
Speaker 5: that the amount of plastic and chemicals and hormones and

1801
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 5: things like that is affecting us mentally. But on another note,

1802
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 5: a mental parasite is an idea or an experience from

1803
01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:20,559
Speaker 5: the past that is living in our heads and it's

1804
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:26,800
Speaker 5: destroying or devouring the energy of this moment. So if

1805
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 5: we talk to a lot of folks, they drop right

1806
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 5: into the past. That's the conversation from a lot of

1807
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 5: people about what happened and what had happened and what

1808
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 5: happened back in the day. Actually, those ideas shouldn't be

1809
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 5: at the forefront of our brains, but we've been programmed

1810
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 5: because of oppression to think that what happened in the

1811
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 5: past could happen again, or to ruminate over and over

1812
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:52,280
Speaker 5: about events that we can't fix. We can't change the past.

1813
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 5: We can only change this particular moment, this nownness. But

1814
01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 5: our programming, our thinking, our culture is about focusing on

1815
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 5: things from the past that we can't fix in our lives.

1816
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:06,760
Speaker 5: We can't change it.

1817
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 11: So this becomes a parasite.

1818
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 5: If you're living today and it's a brand new day,

1819
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 5: yesterday is not here today, but all your conversation, all

1820
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 5: your thoughts are about what happened. So if what happened

1821
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 5: was good and you had a great life most of

1822
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,759
Speaker 5: your life, and you're ruminating or bringing up those ideas,

1823
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 5: then this is a wonderful thing. But if we're constantly

1824
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 5: talking about what happened in the disagreeable or the negative

1825
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:35,719
Speaker 5: or the bad, this energy is going to be taken

1826
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 5: by your brain.

1827
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 16: As this is what the.

1828
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 5: Captain of the ship, because of your body is a ship,

1829
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:42,680
Speaker 5: is focusing on the past and how bad it is

1830
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 5: when today it could actually be a whole new day,

1831
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 5: brand new You've got new experiences, new opportunities here right

1832
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:53,560
Speaker 5: now today. But if we're focusing on the past. It

1833
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 5: becomes like a ghost. So this is like a dead

1834
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 5: idea that should be gone and buried. But you know

1835
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 5: how the ghost people because it's you know, it's it's

1836
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 5: it's stuck energy, whether it's in the house of building.

1837
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 5: And a lot of people are living a haunted life

1838
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 5: because they're haunted by their past. So this is a

1839
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:15,759
Speaker 5: part of oppression. And one interesting car is that people

1840
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 5: who have been oppressed for many, many years, they were

1841
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 5: raised in the idea, the feeling, and the culture of oppression.

1842
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 5: They now become oppressive, self oppressive, or they become oppressious,

1843
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 5: oppressive to other people because they were raised in a

1844
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 5: world of oppression, and the oppressor seems like the winner,

1845
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 5: and we don't want to be losers, so we begin

1846
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:42,240
Speaker 5: to do some of the same things that we say

1847
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 5: the oppressor did to us, and some of the things,

1848
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 5: and this is deep, some of the things that we

1849
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 5: were told were done to us were told to us

1850
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 5: by the oppressor. That means that some of this stuff,

1851
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 5: most of a lot of history is not exactly the

1852
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:02,000
Speaker 5: way you think it is. You see, it's just a story.

1853
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 5: It's just the representations or ideas that were given to us.

1854
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:10,640
Speaker 5: About things that were, you know, possibly terrible, and not

1855
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 5: saying that terrible things didn't happen. I am saying that

1856
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 5: some of it has been shaped by the what we

1857
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 5: call the oppress or especially around the ideas of health

1858
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 5: and like. For one, for instance, we have an idea

1859
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 5: about what runs in the family. Well, where do we

1860
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:29,720
Speaker 5: get that from? What do you mean it runs in

1861
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:32,720
Speaker 5: the family? What it's your genes. Well, now it's been

1862
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 5: proven that your genes right are.

1863
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:38,640
Speaker 11: Only responsible for maybe ten percent of.

1864
01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 5: Your life's outcome. So then maybe your hair color, your

1865
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 5: eye color, how you talk. But ninety percent of the

1866
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:48,760
Speaker 5: gene right of your genes are open. They're like open

1867
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 5: books that haven't been written. They call it junk DNA.

1868
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 5: The junk DNA now is known to be an open

1869
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:03,719
Speaker 5: palette that is programmed by your environment. If your environment,

1870
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:06,320
Speaker 5: I'm talking about your mental environment, how you think, what

1871
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 5: you eat becomes your environment, who you hang out with,

1872
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 5: what you do, what you watch, all of that becomes

1873
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 5: your mental environment. That environment is what programs the genes

1874
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,760
Speaker 5: to have an outcome. So I was talking to this

1875
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 5: medical document. He says, well, you know there is what

1876
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:27,640
Speaker 5: we call a cancer gene. He says, okay, but that

1877
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 5: cancer gene has ten thousand other things that it could become.

1878
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:33,800
Speaker 4: What.

1879
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:39,479
Speaker 5: Yes, a cancer gene has over ten thousand other outputs

1880
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 5: based on its mindsets, based on its programming, based on

1881
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:47,680
Speaker 5: its environment. So if you grow up and you keep

1882
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:51,599
Speaker 5: hearing about cancer, cancer, how many people are getting cancer,

1883
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 5: and how many people have it, how many people in

1884
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 5: your family died from cancer, well you almost expected, you're

1885
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 5: almost projected in your mind that cancer is a normal thing.

1886
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 5: And you love your relatives, right, you love people in

1887
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 5: your family. But sometimes love can work in a disagreeable

1888
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 5: way because you end up having with the people that

1889
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 5: you love. Had. The number one contributor to cancer, and

1890
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 5: this is deep and you can actually find this now

1891
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:23,439
Speaker 5: starting to come out. The number one contributor to cancer,

1892
01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:28,640
Speaker 5: especially like prostate cancer, is the fear of it. You

1893
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 5: if you're in your mind that this is a normal

1894
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 5: thing and this is taking everybody out, and almost everybody

1895
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 5: you know has it or has it in their family,

1896
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 5: you begin to create an environment of fear. You create

1897
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 5: an environment of expecting or believing or even knowing that

1898
01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 5: you're probably going to get it. So your gene are

1899
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:54,719
Speaker 5: not programmed for cancer your genes are programmed to listen

1900
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:58,160
Speaker 5: to the environment that you're thinking in or feeling in,

1901
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, boom, now you've got it.

1902
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 5: So just keep in mind, doctor me.

1903
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to go back to the mental aspect though,

1904
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 1: is just the reason why some of our folks they

1905
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:14,120
Speaker 1: don't want to They they've right enough for slave movies.

1906
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 1: They don't want to see any movies about the past

1907
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:20,880
Speaker 1: where when our ancestors were enslaved. It's too painful for them.

1908
01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:22,599
Speaker 1: Is that the reason why?

1909
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 5: Exactly? Because you know, bringing that stuff to the forefront,

1910
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:30,479
Speaker 5: and you gotta you gotta wonder who's funding these who

1911
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 5: funds these movies, and who decides what scenes are in

1912
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:36,720
Speaker 5: these movies? And you know, and whatnot? What what?

1913
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 7: What?

1914
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 5: What dialogue is created for the movie? Who runs the

1915
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:46,600
Speaker 5: movie industry? Most of it is the same people that

1916
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 5: you say are the ones that put us in this position.

1917
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 5: So we we go to them and they get to

1918
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:56,679
Speaker 5: dictate how good your movie is and what scenes are happening,

1919
01:44:57,479 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 5: which mentally is programming you for more pain. You see,

1920
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 5: And we want to say that all of us were slaves,

1921
01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 5: that's not true. Many people were indigenous to this land

1922
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 5: who looked just like us with afros and locks and

1923
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:16,679
Speaker 5: all of that. We are not from any one place,

1924
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:21,559
Speaker 5: We're from everywhere. Not saying that many of the stories

1925
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Speaker 5: that were told are not actual, I'm saying there's another

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Speaker 5: story too. But the mental parasite is the ideas that

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Speaker 5: we hold to be true that may not be actual

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Speaker 5: or factual. It's like the idea that you hear about

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Speaker 5: somebody doesn't like you. You keep hearing somebody tells you

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Speaker 5: all your friends and family this.

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Speaker 10: Person, they don't like you.

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Speaker 5: They were talking bad about you. They're your enemy. When

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Speaker 5: you meet them and you find out, man, this person

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Speaker 5: is not my enemy. It's actually we could be friends.

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Speaker 5: This happened to me with a herbalist many years ago.

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Speaker 5: People said, this guy's an erbalists, he doesn't like you.

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Speaker 5: You guys are in competition and you should never meet

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Speaker 5: to seize your enemy. Well guess what I meet the guy.

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Speaker 5: The guy loves me, He studies me.

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Speaker 7: I studied his work, and we.

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Speaker 5: Ended up being very close partners for a long time.

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Speaker 5: But the mental parasite, the mental idea, the mental feelings

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Speaker 5: that was given to me was that I shouldn't like

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Speaker 5: this person they're bad, they're not good for me. So

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Speaker 5: I had the mental parasite right that was eating me alive,

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Speaker 5: so that I wouldn't be ready to accept anything new.

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Speaker 5: So mental parasites are ideas and experiences that mostly have

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Speaker 5: come from the past, or ideas that were given to us,

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Speaker 5: passed down to us, that eat us alive. They suck

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Speaker 5: our energy because this keeps us living. Thinking that history

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Speaker 5: repeats itself.

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Speaker 1: Now history thought right there, doctor bab We got to

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Speaker 1: step us off for in a few moments. I got

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Speaker 1: two tweets for you, and when you come back, I'll

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Speaker 1: let you respond to that. This one first. This tweeter

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Speaker 1: says it is it true that your brain cannot tell

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Speaker 1: the difference between heartbreak and a broken bone? For the brain,

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Speaker 1: if pain is pain, they want to know if that's true.

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Speaker 1: I'll get you a response when we get back. Family,

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Speaker 1: you two can join our conversation with doctor Base, a

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Speaker 16: Now back to the Carl Nelson Show, Go and Peep.

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Speaker 1: And grandizing family ranks. Just starting your Wednesday with us

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Speaker 1: and our guest master herbalist and is also a metaphysician,

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Speaker 1: and it was doctor B. You've heard him before. Doctor

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Speaker 1: B has a new book out e titled What's Eating You?

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Speaker 1: And he talked about mental para size and before the left, doctor,

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Speaker 1: I'll let you finish your thought and then you can

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Speaker 1: respond to this tweet question that the tweeter says that

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Speaker 1: your brain. Is it true that your brain cannot tell

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Speaker 1: the difference between heartbreak and a broken bone? For the brain,

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Speaker 1: pain is pain.

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Speaker 5: Well, let's let's just just go right into it, because

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Speaker 5: it actually is connected to what I'm saying, is your

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Speaker 5: brain is listening to you or your mind. Your brain

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Speaker 5: is listening to your mind. Your mind has a lot

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Speaker 5: to do with your ideas what you think. Your brain

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Speaker 5: is a is a physical device that's a chemical factory

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Speaker 5: that sends out messages in hormones based on what you're

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Speaker 5: thinking and what you're feeling. So when we say things,

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Speaker 5: when you say the word broken, might have a broken

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Speaker 5: whatever heart, your brain cannot differentiate between something actually physically

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Speaker 5: being broken and something mentally being broken or emotionally you

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Speaker 5: become broken. Now the body begins to react as if

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Speaker 5: there's an emergency. So your immune complexes go crazy. When

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Speaker 5: you get hurt right, or you get a disease, they

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Speaker 5: start going to work to try to deal with that

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Speaker 5: particular malady, that problem. If you speak in a language

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Speaker 5: and your language is based upon brokenness, something controlling you,

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Speaker 5: something hurting you, the immune complexes do the same thing.

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Speaker 5: You just gave a command that we're at war. The

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Speaker 5: body doesn't know if it's a physical war, a mental war,

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Speaker 5: a spiritual war. And if you listen to the language,

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Speaker 5: most of the language is based around war and commerce.

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Speaker 5: English is about war and commerce. Mostly it's about fighting.

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Speaker 5: You know, we talk about fighting disease. I was talking

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Speaker 5: to a client the other day. He was talking about

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Speaker 5: he's fighting cancer. We must have said it fifteen times

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Speaker 5: in the conversation. I said, Will, you're not winning because

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Speaker 5: your mindset is about fighting it instead of balancing the

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Speaker 5: body right, looking for what the body needs. What is

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Speaker 5: the root cause of this? The root causes that were

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Speaker 5: out of balance. We're eating too many things that are toxic.

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Speaker 5: We're living in toxic world. We got these air fresheners

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Speaker 5: in the house. We're using plastic. A lot of the

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Speaker 5: foods have plastic in them. You want to know what

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Speaker 5: one of the biggest problems is it's plastic. There are

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Speaker 5: people who will eat a credit card size plastic in

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Speaker 5: their food every week, or by drinking water in plastic bottles,

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Speaker 5: plastic and it's just the plastic absorber into the water.

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Speaker 5: So you get these microtarnacles and it's throughout our system.

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Speaker 5: So we say, you know, just going back to what's

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Speaker 5: running in the family. What's running in the family. A

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Speaker 5: lot of times is the idea? Right, these ideas, what

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Speaker 5: we're cooking with, what are we using? I'm using aluminum

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Speaker 5: plant pans, pots, What's I'm gonna use an aluminum doctor?

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Speaker 5: Be well, aluminum is not supposed to be consumed by humans.

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Speaker 5: You see, it shuts off the nervous system. It breaks

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Speaker 5: down the way the nervous system, the electric electrical flow

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Speaker 5: of the nervous system. It shorts it out. But you

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Speaker 5: know they get cast iron or stand and still costs

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Speaker 5: too much. Well, it's gonna cost you a whole lot

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Speaker 5: when you find out how your nervous system, your brain,

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Speaker 5: and everything is affected by these cheap materials like aluminum,

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Speaker 5: like polyester clothing. I was talking to a client the

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Speaker 5: other day and he's you know, they were saying that

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Speaker 5: their loved one is in the hospital. They keep getting

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Speaker 5: a dead source. I said, well, you have to put

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Speaker 5: linen sheets on the bed. They said, linen sheets.

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Speaker 11: I said, ye know, what are the sheets made out of?

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Speaker 5: Well, of course they're made out of polyester or a

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Speaker 5: polyesterer cotton mixed. That's plastic. So the body is being affected,

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Speaker 5: being eaten and dissolved and absorbed and defracted and refracted

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Speaker 5: by plastic. Now I'm gonna tie this back into the brain.

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Speaker 5: Did you know that the focus today on people is

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Speaker 5: how they look? So I went to a dermatologist. When

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Speaker 5: to go meet with somebody at this dermatologist place, and

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Speaker 5: the whole thing is about plastic surgery and how you

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Speaker 5: can look and how they can fix you up and

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Speaker 5: make you look a certain way. And I was like,

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Speaker 5: how many people are in lying here? This is amazing.

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Speaker 5: We want to look a certain way, So we'll go

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Speaker 5: with plastic. We'll go with something that's not totally real

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Speaker 5: or not totally us to try to look a certain

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Speaker 5: way so that we can be we can show up

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Speaker 5: right in a fake or plastic way. If you look

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Speaker 5: at how much plastic is in our lives, from the

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Speaker 5: makeups to the I mean, it just gets deep. So

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Speaker 5: what's wrong with our society where we don't accept our

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Speaker 5: true love and be Why is it that you know,

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Speaker 5: if your dark skin you looked at this way, your

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Speaker 5: light skin you looked at that way. The mindset that

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Speaker 5: has been programmed into us eats us alive because we

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Speaker 5: never tap into the true power that we are unless

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Speaker 5: we accept ourselves and express ourselves as brand new beings

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Speaker 5: every day and get rid of the fake what I

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Speaker 5: call the fake up. Look at all the plastic in

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Speaker 5: your life. Linen, remember when you know it needs to

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Speaker 5: be linen. You know you put on your bedg you

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Speaker 5: put linen. Never you never use plastic because you're absorbing

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Speaker 5: the energy. Is that the electrical flow of polyester in

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Speaker 5: these fake or manufactured of what we call clothes or fabrics,

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Speaker 5: they suck the life force out of your body. But

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Speaker 5: linen and cotton, hemp or even wool in the winter,

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Speaker 5: they give your body energy. So we use them in

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Speaker 5: hospitals because we were looking to heal the people. You're

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Speaker 5: not looking at the person, So a lot of times

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Speaker 5: the person in the hospital is there to get healthy

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Speaker 5: or to try to heal, but you're using materials that

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Speaker 5: actually caught dis ease because of the finances. We want

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Speaker 5: to look at things.

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Speaker 1: Right hold, I though right there twenty five after the top,

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Speaker 1: doctor B, let me just share this with a family.

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Speaker 1: You got to question the health challenge question any question

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Speaker 1: about health or metaphysician. This is a person you need

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Speaker 1: oppose it to right now say it's doctor B and

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Speaker 1: doctor ban. Let me just I got another tweet question

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Speaker 1: for you. And because you were in the music before

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Speaker 1: and maybe you want to share that with the family.

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Speaker 1: How you you because you were a musician or you're

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Speaker 1: still a musician. But the person that tweets us listening

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Speaker 1: to sad music when you are sad actually help you

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Speaker 1: feel better? That sounds that don't sound right to me.

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Speaker 1: But maybe you can explain. This is what the tweeter

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Speaker 1: wants to know. If this is true listening to sad

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Speaker 1: music when when you're actually sad, when you got the

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Speaker 1: blues and you listen to the sad music, it helps

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Speaker 1: you feel better. Is that true?

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Speaker 5: So this is a deep one. The way the music

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Speaker 5: is tuned is actually tuned to a frequency that causes sadness.

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Speaker 5: Music today in the Northern Hemisphere is mostly tuned to

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Speaker 5: a concert note a fort that's the tuning standard that

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Speaker 5: we use. That is not a natural frequency. That's a

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Speaker 5: mind control, population control frequency that was implemented by the

2140
01:58:05,000 --> 01:58:08,120
Speaker 5: weights and measured standards or wherever. In the United States,

2141
01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:12,080
Speaker 5: they got a whole, big, long name. In nineteen fifty

2142
01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:14,720
Speaker 5: six they decided to tune all the music and make

2143
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:20,840
Speaker 5: it a standard at four forty. Four forty makes you

2144
01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:24,640
Speaker 5: feel sad. It makes you feel weak. It's not it's

2145
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:30,600
Speaker 5: counteractive to your natural nervous system, energetic flow. It's like plastic.

2146
01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:33,600
Speaker 5: It sucks energy out of your life. So what a

2147
01:58:33,680 --> 01:58:36,320
Speaker 5: lot of the old jazz musicians and blues musicians were doing,

2148
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:38,520
Speaker 5: they weren't tuning to those frequencies. They were tuning to

2149
01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:41,760
Speaker 5: something that was natural in nature. If you're on the

2150
01:58:41,800 --> 01:58:44,040
Speaker 5: back porch, you know what I'm saying, playing blooms, or

2151
01:58:44,120 --> 01:58:47,600
Speaker 5: playing you know whatever, rag time, or you know, enjoying music,

2152
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:50,360
Speaker 5: you didn't tune to a standard frequency. You tuned to

2153
01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:55,680
Speaker 5: what you felt. So the frequencies that we standardize ourselves

2154
01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:59,240
Speaker 5: to are actually causing us to be sick and sad.

2155
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:01,320
Speaker 5: I don't care if it's the best love song in

2156
01:59:01,400 --> 01:59:05,400
Speaker 5: the world, if it's tuned to four forty that frequency

2157
01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:08,360
Speaker 5: is not natural now four thirty two, which means that

2158
01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:12,240
Speaker 5: the music is one point eight percent flat or south.

2159
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:15,120
Speaker 5: You see, we tune it down just a little bit.

2160
01:59:15,200 --> 01:59:17,800
Speaker 5: It's softer and smoother, and you feel it and it's healing.

2161
01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 5: It's healing you. So it's not just about the words

2162
01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:24,080
Speaker 5: and the lyrics and the beats, which is a whole

2163
01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:28,000
Speaker 5: nother thing, But it's about the tuning of your instruments.

2164
01:59:28,080 --> 01:59:31,280
Speaker 5: And when you hear music that is tuned to four

2165
01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:32,960
Speaker 5: thirty two, it changes you.

2166
01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:37,120
Speaker 1: Hold that thought right there, doctor B. Because you're a musician,

2167
01:59:37,240 --> 01:59:39,080
Speaker 1: But what about the rest of us who are not

2168
01:59:40,640 --> 01:59:43,480
Speaker 1: trying the ear like you. We don't know what's the

2169
01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:46,640
Speaker 1: different frequencies are, do we? Or it's a way you

2170
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:49,280
Speaker 1: can share with us that we can tell this is

2171
01:59:49,360 --> 01:59:52,120
Speaker 1: on a negative frequency or this is a positive frequency.

2172
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm using those risks cause I forgot that the exact

2173
01:59:55,240 --> 01:59:57,320
Speaker 1: metric that you said that we should be listening to

2174
01:59:57,600 --> 02:00:00,080
Speaker 1: what lifts us up and what puts us down. Are

2175
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:02,640
Speaker 1: you saying that the musicians do this deliberately or the

2176
02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:04,200
Speaker 1: record comings Why won't you go in to that a

2177
02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:05,120
Speaker 1: little bit more for us?

2178
02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:08,840
Speaker 5: Well, the easiest way to know is to listen to

2179
02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:11,040
Speaker 5: the new music that I have. In fact, this book,

2180
02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:14,480
Speaker 5: What's Eating You has a soundtrack. The soundtrack has twenty

2181
02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:21,840
Speaker 5: two songs, the seven hours of harmonically tuned balance to

2182
02:00:22,200 --> 02:00:25,880
Speaker 5: music so that people can hear this. This is comes

2183
02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:28,240
Speaker 5: you know, you can you can purchase this as of tomorrow,

2184
02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:30,600
Speaker 5: because it's not done today. The music part is I'm

2185
02:00:30,920 --> 02:00:34,240
Speaker 5: mixing the final song. But as a producer, the music

2186
02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:38,280
Speaker 5: that I create is tuned to the natural frequencies of

2187
02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:41,560
Speaker 5: the earth. So it's like nature when you got nature

2188
02:00:41,560 --> 02:00:44,240
Speaker 5: and you hear crickets and birds, they're all tuned to

2189
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 5: the natural frequencies of the earth. But part of the

2190
02:00:48,080 --> 02:00:51,000
Speaker 5: mind control and part of CO and Tel pro Right

2191
02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:55,760
Speaker 5: counterintelligence programs was to make music, make people accept music

2192
02:00:56,320 --> 02:00:59,760
Speaker 5: that is actually causing them pain and we don't even

2193
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:02,440
Speaker 5: recognize it because we've gotten so used to being in

2194
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:05,360
Speaker 5: pain that you know, like I said, it could be

2195
02:01:05,440 --> 02:01:08,320
Speaker 5: your favorite love song. Let's say it's a song by

2196
02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:12,200
Speaker 5: the Old Jays or whoever that music. If it's tuned

2197
02:01:12,720 --> 02:01:15,560
Speaker 5: to these frequencies, you're not getting the best out of it.

2198
02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:17,560
Speaker 5: You're not hearing it the way it could be. And

2199
02:01:17,600 --> 02:01:19,200
Speaker 5: if I were to take you in the studio or

2200
02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:22,640
Speaker 5: offer you a tuning and show you the difference. If

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02:01:22,680 --> 02:01:25,120
Speaker 5: I showed you here's the way the song, the song

2202
02:01:25,240 --> 02:01:27,760
Speaker 5: is tuned right now, let's make it a little bit flat.

2203
02:01:28,920 --> 02:01:32,120
Speaker 5: You say, oh my god, that feels good, that feels amazing.

2204
02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:35,960
Speaker 5: Music is making us sick. It's one of the reasons

2205
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:38,560
Speaker 5: I had to leave the mainstream music business because it

2206
02:01:38,720 --> 02:01:41,000
Speaker 5: was making me sick. When I realized this is deliberate

2207
02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:44,720
Speaker 5: in all music. It doesn't make a difference how positive

2208
02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:48,440
Speaker 5: could be gosbel a spiritual song. If it's tuned to

2209
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Speaker 5: these destructive frequencies, it's going to have an effect on

2210
02:01:52,680 --> 02:01:55,960
Speaker 5: yourselves because your body is listening to its environment, and

2211
02:01:56,120 --> 02:02:01,440
Speaker 5: that environment is what's encoding, recoding, and your express themselves.

2212
02:02:02,520 --> 02:02:07,480
Speaker 5: Music for the what we call major music systems or

2213
02:02:08,440 --> 02:02:12,000
Speaker 5: machine can make us sick. We don't realize it. So

2214
02:02:12,160 --> 02:02:14,840
Speaker 5: I said, well, look, let me do a project twenty

2215
02:02:14,920 --> 02:02:17,280
Speaker 5: two songs, and some of these songs are fifteen twenty

2216
02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:20,680
Speaker 5: minutes long. There's really musical odyssey that take you out

2217
02:02:20,760 --> 02:02:22,520
Speaker 5: of the realm that you're in and begin to heal

2218
02:02:22,600 --> 02:02:26,400
Speaker 5: you on a harmonic frequency level. While you're reading the book.

2219
02:02:28,160 --> 02:02:32,760
Speaker 5: So there's a music soundtrack called the what is it

2220
02:02:32,840 --> 02:02:38,320
Speaker 5: called Doctor Bee's Medicine Music Collective Special Edition that you

2221
02:02:38,400 --> 02:02:41,440
Speaker 5: can receive with the book, and that will be tomorrow.

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02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:43,680
Speaker 5: Tomorrow you will be able to get the soundtrack with

2223
02:02:43,880 --> 02:02:44,240
Speaker 5: the book.

2224
02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:49,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, But aside from that, though, how can we

2225
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:51,680
Speaker 1: tell a difference if we listen to a song right now,

2226
02:02:51,880 --> 02:02:54,960
Speaker 1: doctor Beeth, how can we tell a difference? It's what

2227
02:02:55,240 --> 02:02:59,080
Speaker 1: frequencys on. Do you have to audio files?

2228
02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:03,320
Speaker 5: You can't because you what you have heard most of

2229
02:03:03,520 --> 02:03:08,320
Speaker 5: your life has been tuned erratically. It's been tuned to

2230
02:03:08,480 --> 02:03:11,920
Speaker 5: make you sick. You'd have to be able to hear it.

2231
02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:14,480
Speaker 5: Once you hear it, you're going to be like, oh

2232
02:03:14,520 --> 02:03:17,680
Speaker 5: my gosh, this is crazy. So you can even go

2233
02:03:17,760 --> 02:03:20,240
Speaker 5: online and look up they've got major songs, like they

2234
02:03:20,280 --> 02:03:22,880
Speaker 5: got shar Day. Right, They'll say, let's hear shar Day,

2235
02:03:23,440 --> 02:03:25,520
Speaker 5: the original version, and then let's hear it at four

2236
02:03:25,640 --> 02:03:26,040
Speaker 5: thirty two.

2237
02:03:26,600 --> 02:03:28,120
Speaker 11: When you hear it, you'll be like, oh my gosh,

2238
02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:29,120
Speaker 11: what just happened?

2239
02:03:29,920 --> 02:03:35,240
Speaker 5: What happened? Because one, the average person has been programmed

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02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:40,080
Speaker 5: to accept right pain, to accept loss, to accept fear,

2241
02:03:40,560 --> 02:03:44,520
Speaker 5: and to accept oppression on every level, not just with

2242
02:03:44,640 --> 02:03:47,640
Speaker 5: our clothes and our fabric, with our choices, what we buy,

2243
02:03:47,840 --> 02:03:50,960
Speaker 5: how we talk, how we dance, how we move. We

2244
02:03:51,520 --> 02:03:54,040
Speaker 5: have been when you have been brought up in a

2245
02:03:54,160 --> 02:03:58,680
Speaker 5: world of oppression, that's what you know. So you're fighting

2246
02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:03,760
Speaker 5: for survival when right next door there's another world existing

2247
02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:07,160
Speaker 5: where it gives you more power to be who you

2248
02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:10,800
Speaker 5: truly came to be. And this is twenty twenty six, right,

2249
02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:15,160
Speaker 5: So this is called a crossover year because in twenty

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02:04:15,280 --> 02:04:20,840
Speaker 5: twenty seven there is an energetic field, a shift that

2251
02:04:21,080 --> 02:04:24,200
Speaker 5: happens that happens every sixty years every you know, there's

2252
02:04:24,240 --> 02:04:29,600
Speaker 5: these cycles, right, and in twenty twenty seven, everything changes.

2253
02:04:29,800 --> 02:04:31,760
Speaker 5: That's why the weather is different than it's ever been.

2254
02:04:32,080 --> 02:04:34,280
Speaker 5: We think that, oh my god, weather's changing. Well, it's

2255
02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:36,600
Speaker 5: always changing. It's just that you weren't around the last

2256
02:04:36,600 --> 02:04:38,840
Speaker 5: time we were going through this cycle. So we're going

2257
02:04:38,920 --> 02:04:43,280
Speaker 5: through a sickle change, which this year sets you up

2258
02:04:43,920 --> 02:04:46,680
Speaker 5: for to be a master, to be a teacher, to

2259
02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:49,440
Speaker 5: be wealthy, to change everything. We have a chance to

2260
02:04:49,560 --> 02:04:52,920
Speaker 5: change everything right now. And if you listen to the news, right,

2261
02:04:53,040 --> 02:04:55,320
Speaker 5: if you keep listening, listening, listening, they keep telling you

2262
02:04:55,400 --> 02:04:57,920
Speaker 5: how bad it is. Why is the news all about

2263
02:04:57,960 --> 02:05:01,800
Speaker 5: how bad it is. Why when it couldn't be possible

2264
02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:04,080
Speaker 5: that it's that bad. In other words, what am I saying?

2265
02:05:04,120 --> 02:05:07,120
Speaker 5: What are you saying that? To me, everything is connected

2266
02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:11,440
Speaker 5: to its polar opposite. So if something is really bad,

2267
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:14,080
Speaker 5: there must be something else. I think that's really good

2268
02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:19,360
Speaker 5: at the same time, but if you're forced in your

2269
02:05:19,440 --> 02:05:22,560
Speaker 5: programmed to look at how bad it is, you're going

2270
02:05:22,640 --> 02:05:28,000
Speaker 5: to internally create these chemicals that causes your immune system

2271
02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:30,480
Speaker 5: to go crazy. Either your nervous system is ever correct,

2272
02:05:30,760 --> 02:05:32,680
Speaker 5: So now you're going to have things like heart disease,

2273
02:05:32,760 --> 02:05:37,040
Speaker 5: kidney disease, liver disease become bigger because you are living

2274
02:05:37,200 --> 02:05:40,160
Speaker 5: in an unnatural way, You're living in an unnatural frequency,

2275
02:05:40,160 --> 02:05:44,080
Speaker 5: you're listening to unnatural music. So you have to be

2276
02:05:44,200 --> 02:05:46,640
Speaker 5: ready to change everything. Now some people just aren't willing

2277
02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:50,160
Speaker 5: to do that. But back in the day before, like

2278
02:05:50,360 --> 02:05:53,680
Speaker 5: say the fifties, musicians were doing it. Food was better.

2279
02:05:53,960 --> 02:05:57,680
Speaker 5: People were picking food and going out growing things. Did

2280
02:05:57,720 --> 02:06:00,720
Speaker 5: you know that if you have some basil, pick this out, Carl.

2281
02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:04,520
Speaker 5: If you had some basil or some mint in your window,

2282
02:06:04,600 --> 02:06:06,120
Speaker 5: you can put it in your kitchen window, even in

2283
02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:09,720
Speaker 5: an apartment it'll grow. And you took just a little

2284
02:06:09,760 --> 02:06:12,480
Speaker 5: bit of that natural plant and you sprinkled it in

2285
02:06:12,640 --> 02:06:14,560
Speaker 5: your food. Unless say, your foods got a lot of

2286
02:06:14,640 --> 02:06:16,240
Speaker 5: toxins and a lot of things in it that may

2287
02:06:16,320 --> 02:06:20,360
Speaker 5: not be one hundred percent. Sprinkle a little bit of

2288
02:06:20,480 --> 02:06:23,760
Speaker 5: a natural plant that you grew into it. It changes

2289
02:06:23,920 --> 02:06:29,000
Speaker 5: the frequency of your food because you touched it, this

2290
02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:33,000
Speaker 5: plant grew. You know, the best food is going to

2291
02:06:33,000 --> 02:06:34,960
Speaker 5: be food that was grown by you. But not everybody's

2292
02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:36,880
Speaker 5: gonna be able to do that today. So you could

2293
02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:41,520
Speaker 5: just have one little spice that's your special spice. You

2294
02:06:41,600 --> 02:06:43,480
Speaker 5: could pray over it, you could put energy on it,

2295
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:45,720
Speaker 5: whatever you need to do, and use that spice in

2296
02:06:45,760 --> 02:06:48,480
Speaker 5: your food, and it begins to change the frequency of

2297
02:06:48,560 --> 02:06:52,680
Speaker 5: what you're eating. It's just like, well, okay, and I

2298
02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:54,600
Speaker 5: talked to a lot of people, right and they'll have

2299
02:06:54,720 --> 02:06:57,040
Speaker 5: you know, the average conversation is about how bad it

2300
02:06:57,160 --> 02:06:59,839
Speaker 5: is and how sick people are and how the government

2301
02:06:59,920 --> 02:07:02,200
Speaker 5: is blah blah blah blah blah. They go on and on,

2302
02:07:02,360 --> 02:07:04,560
Speaker 5: and then I come in and I say something agreeable.

2303
02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:07,480
Speaker 5: The people look at me like I'm crazy, what are

2304
02:07:07,480 --> 02:07:09,120
Speaker 5: you talking about? You know, how bad it is? Out

2305
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:10,760
Speaker 5: there and said, we can about to just go jump

2306
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:13,480
Speaker 5: off a cliff because it's not getting any better. We

2307
02:07:13,840 --> 02:07:18,080
Speaker 5: have to create betterment. We have to realize what is

2308
02:07:18,200 --> 02:07:21,400
Speaker 5: eating us, what's devouring us, and it's a system that

2309
02:07:21,600 --> 02:07:25,800
Speaker 5: was put together by your quote unquote enemy to make

2310
02:07:25,880 --> 02:07:30,640
Speaker 5: you feel bad. I'm not saying that thing.

2311
02:07:30,880 --> 02:07:34,240
Speaker 11: There's not a lot going on because there is.

2312
02:07:35,040 --> 02:07:39,040
Speaker 5: What I A'm saying is at the same time the

2313
02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:42,640
Speaker 5: opposite is happening. So there are people who live like

2314
02:07:42,920 --> 02:07:45,800
Speaker 5: way out in the woods, say they're unplugged. They don't

2315
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:47,560
Speaker 5: know how bad it is. They didn't watch the news

2316
02:07:47,600 --> 02:07:50,480
Speaker 5: today then looking at the deer, watching the river or

2317
02:07:50,560 --> 02:07:53,920
Speaker 5: watching the snow, and they live in this beautiful mind state.

2318
02:07:54,560 --> 02:07:59,240
Speaker 5: They read books, they do things that actually help them

2319
02:07:59,360 --> 02:08:03,920
Speaker 5: be more connected to nature more in the moment they're

2320
02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:06,480
Speaker 5: not being by.

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02:08:07,280 --> 02:08:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah and hould let thought right there. Dr B. You

2322
02:08:09,200 --> 02:08:10,760
Speaker 1: got to step aside and let you finish your thought.

2323
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:13,960
Speaker 1: And also Kareem in Baltimore has a question for you. Family.

2324
02:08:14,040 --> 02:08:16,680
Speaker 1: YouTube can join our conversation with Dr B. You know

2325
02:08:16,800 --> 02:08:18,640
Speaker 1: how to reach us, It's really easy. Just hit us

2326
02:08:18,720 --> 02:08:22,600
Speaker 1: up at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six,

2327
02:08:22,640 --> 02:08:23,680
Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls.

2328
02:08:23,880 --> 02:08:24,120
Speaker 5: Next.

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Speaker 1: Thank round, Rising family, Happy Wednesday, nineteen minutes away from

2330
02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:38,560
Speaker 1: the top. Day out of our guest, Doctor B. Doctor Beza.

2331
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:41,280
Speaker 1: It's a maniphysician, as you heard, and he's also a

2332
02:08:41,360 --> 02:08:43,320
Speaker 1: master herber. Listening. He has got a new book out.

2333
02:08:43,360 --> 02:08:45,240
Speaker 1: It's called tied Of. The book is What's Eating You?

2334
02:08:45,360 --> 02:08:47,280
Speaker 1: Before we go back to doctor B, let me remind you.

2335
02:08:47,360 --> 02:08:50,000
Speaker 1: Coming up tomorrow, we're going to be joined by Grio

2336
02:08:50,080 --> 02:08:54,080
Speaker 1: and Quanza creator doctor Milana Kerenga as we celebrate to

2337
02:08:54,520 --> 02:08:57,560
Speaker 1: the centennial of Black History Month one hundred years ago today.

2338
02:08:57,760 --> 02:09:00,360
Speaker 1: Also music historian Bill Carpenter, will I want us to

2339
02:09:00,560 --> 02:09:04,320
Speaker 1: explain how music the role that music played in our history.

2340
02:09:04,440 --> 02:09:06,280
Speaker 1: So make sure if you are in Baltimore, let you

2341
02:09:06,360 --> 02:09:08,800
Speaker 1: keep your radar locked in todd On ten ten WOLB

2342
02:09:09,160 --> 02:09:12,320
Speaker 1: or if you'm the TMV run fourteen fifteen wol All right,

2343
02:09:12,360 --> 02:09:14,120
Speaker 1: Doctor B, I'll mat you finish your thought in Kareem

2344
02:09:14,200 --> 02:09:15,760
Speaker 1: in Baltimore has a question for you.

2345
02:09:17,720 --> 02:09:21,880
Speaker 5: See this book What's Eating You? Somebtitle is break Free

2346
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:27,400
Speaker 5: from mental, physical, and energetic Parasites. The journey from opposition

2347
02:09:27,560 --> 02:09:32,120
Speaker 5: to liberation. So for many years. People said, well, doctor,

2348
02:09:32,160 --> 02:09:34,720
Speaker 5: be what is holding us down? What is the problem.

2349
02:09:34,840 --> 02:09:37,920
Speaker 5: What do we need to do to change our mindset?

2350
02:09:38,240 --> 02:09:41,320
Speaker 5: Is to change what we're eating and how we're approaching life.

2351
02:09:41,960 --> 02:09:47,360
Speaker 5: It's your mindset that changes everything. So in this book,

2352
02:09:48,520 --> 02:09:52,040
Speaker 5: I had to write my way out of my own condition.

2353
02:09:53,640 --> 02:09:57,120
Speaker 5: So it took seven years to write this book. Actually,

2354
02:09:57,680 --> 02:09:59,760
Speaker 5: if somebody said, well, so, actually thirty years if you

2355
02:09:59,760 --> 02:10:02,720
Speaker 5: look the book, because it starts back in nineteen ninety

2356
02:10:02,760 --> 02:10:09,160
Speaker 5: six when I had a whole an adventure. But I

2357
02:10:09,360 --> 02:10:13,760
Speaker 5: was told in school that I was unteachable, I was

2358
02:10:13,960 --> 02:10:18,320
Speaker 5: add adhd, I was dyslexic. I mean, they had a

2359
02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:21,320
Speaker 5: long list of things that was wrong with me, and

2360
02:10:22,280 --> 02:10:25,400
Speaker 5: I mean they kept reminding me of the black student

2361
02:10:25,520 --> 02:10:29,640
Speaker 5: that I had these problems, right, and they would just

2362
02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:32,160
Speaker 5: pass me, you know, just barely pass me, just get

2363
02:10:32,200 --> 02:10:33,520
Speaker 5: me to the next grade. I guess there was no

2364
02:10:33,640 --> 02:10:35,560
Speaker 5: don't leave any children behind or whatever. It's one of

2365
02:10:35,600 --> 02:10:38,360
Speaker 5: those programs are But I had in my mind that

2366
02:10:38,440 --> 02:10:40,640
Speaker 5: I had a lot of issues and the only thing

2367
02:10:40,720 --> 02:10:42,760
Speaker 5: that I could do that I could tually, you know,

2368
02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:46,440
Speaker 5: really control was music. I love music, So I became

2369
02:10:46,520 --> 02:10:48,520
Speaker 5: a musician. I became really good at it because that

2370
02:10:48,640 --> 02:10:51,520
Speaker 5: was my pure focus. But I'd never be able to

2371
02:10:51,600 --> 02:10:54,160
Speaker 5: write a book. You're never going to be a literary thinker.

2372
02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:56,240
Speaker 5: You're never going to be able to go to college.

2373
02:10:56,720 --> 02:10:58,040
Speaker 5: You're not going to be able to do these to

2374
02:10:58,200 --> 02:11:02,760
Speaker 5: do these things because you have these illnesses. Well, when

2375
02:11:02,800 --> 02:11:05,160
Speaker 5: I started writing this book, guess what, all that stuff

2376
02:11:05,200 --> 02:11:07,920
Speaker 5: from childhood popped up. It was in my head, so

2377
02:11:08,360 --> 02:11:10,280
Speaker 5: words were moving around on the page. That's what they

2378
02:11:10,280 --> 02:11:13,040
Speaker 5: called dyslexia. I would speak and say things in a

2379
02:11:13,120 --> 02:11:16,080
Speaker 5: way you know, where as I'm writing that was out

2380
02:11:16,120 --> 02:11:16,560
Speaker 5: of order.

2381
02:11:17,320 --> 02:11:19,120
Speaker 11: It was a challenge writing this book.

2382
02:11:19,240 --> 02:11:22,400
Speaker 5: This book was about me breaking free from my mental

2383
02:11:22,520 --> 02:11:26,520
Speaker 5: parasites that I was given as a child. One teacher,

2384
02:11:26,600 --> 02:11:30,000
Speaker 5: Carl told me that I was unteachable. And this teacher

2385
02:11:30,160 --> 02:11:33,360
Speaker 5: was like this, it's profound that I can just it's

2386
02:11:33,440 --> 02:11:35,240
Speaker 5: like I go back to that moment and hear what

2387
02:11:35,400 --> 02:11:37,840
Speaker 5: the teacher's saying and listening to the other children laughing.

2388
02:11:38,480 --> 02:11:42,560
Speaker 5: You know, these effects have that they're long lasting because

2389
02:11:42,640 --> 02:11:46,400
Speaker 5: it created an environment in me that created a cellular

2390
02:11:46,560 --> 02:11:50,640
Speaker 5: outcome that was programmed to be basically not at my

2391
02:11:50,800 --> 02:11:54,400
Speaker 5: highest vibration. So live the life I came to live.

2392
02:11:54,640 --> 02:11:58,200
Speaker 5: So I had to break this spell and this book

2393
02:11:58,640 --> 02:12:02,480
Speaker 5: right when I finally finished, it took seven years. He said, well,

2394
02:12:02,520 --> 02:12:04,960
Speaker 5: it took seven years, right, two hundred and forty pages. Yes,

2395
02:12:05,960 --> 02:12:10,120
Speaker 5: because I was you know, the frequency that I was

2396
02:12:10,200 --> 02:12:13,480
Speaker 5: given as a child was deep, because the average adult

2397
02:12:13,800 --> 02:12:16,560
Speaker 5: live life as an adult based on the conclusions and

2398
02:12:16,800 --> 02:12:22,040
Speaker 5: ideas of a child. The average adult basically is programmed

2399
02:12:23,000 --> 02:12:25,320
Speaker 5: as a child to be a certain way. You've got

2400
02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:27,720
Speaker 5: to break that spell and grow up and grow out.

2401
02:12:28,280 --> 02:12:31,720
Speaker 5: So this book was not just about me giving information

2402
02:12:31,880 --> 02:12:34,040
Speaker 5: that I feel is life changing to people, but it

2403
02:12:34,120 --> 02:12:37,600
Speaker 5: was also changing my personal life and what I have

2404
02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:40,360
Speaker 5: been through. There's a lot of personal challenges I talk

2405
02:12:40,400 --> 02:12:42,440
Speaker 5: about in this book, so I'm not talking from an

2406
02:12:43,040 --> 02:12:46,000
Speaker 5: ego standpoint. I'm talking about things that I had to

2407
02:12:46,080 --> 02:12:49,760
Speaker 5: do to break free. And right now, the journey from

2408
02:12:49,960 --> 02:12:55,080
Speaker 5: opposition to liberation must be strong because opposition is pulling

2409
02:12:55,200 --> 02:12:58,360
Speaker 5: us hard. They're talking about how bad it is every day,

2410
02:12:58,440 --> 02:13:01,200
Speaker 5: anytime you turn on the news to come Mrsuals, the music,

2411
02:13:01,400 --> 02:13:06,160
Speaker 5: everything is actually keeping you oppressed. But it's your mind,

2412
02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:09,560
Speaker 5: it is your focus, it's your words, it's what you keep,

2413
02:13:09,600 --> 02:13:11,960
Speaker 5: it's how you exercise us, what you you know who

2414
02:13:12,040 --> 02:13:14,960
Speaker 5: you hang out with is going to help you create liberation.

2415
02:13:15,680 --> 02:13:19,080
Speaker 5: So we are using this information and the knowledge that

2416
02:13:19,200 --> 02:13:22,360
Speaker 5: we have studied, we're able to break free and become

2417
02:13:22,520 --> 02:13:24,560
Speaker 5: liberated for the first time. So then when we get

2418
02:13:24,600 --> 02:13:25,520
Speaker 5: to twenty twenty.

2419
02:13:25,360 --> 02:13:27,160
Speaker 11: Seven, it's a whole new world.

2420
02:13:27,240 --> 02:13:29,200
Speaker 5: The whole world changes in twenty twenty seven.

2421
02:13:30,080 --> 02:13:32,000
Speaker 1: The hold I thought right there at doctor be because

2422
02:13:32,040 --> 02:13:33,560
Speaker 1: I mentioned that Koreem has been holding for a minutes

2423
02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:35,920
Speaker 1: a question for you, and we're getting too twenty twenty seven,

2424
02:13:36,120 --> 02:13:39,160
Speaker 1: it's online to grant rising Kareem your question for the

2425
02:13:39,280 --> 02:13:39,720
Speaker 1: doctor B.

2426
02:13:40,960 --> 02:13:41,480
Speaker 7: I hate peace.

2427
02:13:41,560 --> 02:13:42,680
Speaker 5: Doctor B piece called.

2428
02:13:43,280 --> 02:13:44,480
Speaker 7: I wanted to ask you.

2429
02:13:47,280 --> 02:13:52,480
Speaker 21: If we are natural beings, then us putting artificial makes

2430
02:13:52,560 --> 02:13:52,880
Speaker 21: us that.

2431
02:13:54,640 --> 02:13:56,200
Speaker 5: That's the first That's my first thing.

2432
02:13:56,880 --> 02:13:58,800
Speaker 21: But the second thing is, can you touch on the

2433
02:13:58,880 --> 02:14:01,520
Speaker 21: three treasures Ji, Shin and chief?

2434
02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:04,360
Speaker 5: Say that again?

2435
02:14:04,440 --> 02:14:09,400
Speaker 21: O the last ones, but three treasures gin, Jing, Shin

2436
02:14:09,840 --> 02:14:13,000
Speaker 21: and Chi. I'm not sure if you're familiar with those,

2437
02:14:13,080 --> 02:14:14,520
Speaker 21: but those are the Shin.

2438
02:14:14,480 --> 02:14:16,200
Speaker 5: Is your mind, Ging is your.

2439
02:14:16,280 --> 02:14:19,960
Speaker 21: Your biological essence, connection to your past, and the chin

2440
02:14:20,120 --> 02:14:22,720
Speaker 21: is the energy that we have. Because it sounds like

2441
02:14:22,800 --> 02:14:24,680
Speaker 21: that that's what you're speaking.

2442
02:14:24,400 --> 02:14:28,360
Speaker 6: Of in terms of the mind, the body, and our

2443
02:14:28,600 --> 02:14:29,880
Speaker 6: essence to where we come from.

2444
02:14:32,800 --> 02:14:38,720
Speaker 5: So what we're talking about, Yes, what we're talking about

2445
02:14:38,920 --> 02:14:41,360
Speaker 5: is our mind and how we see things.

2446
02:14:41,880 --> 02:14:43,240
Speaker 11: That creates our perception.

2447
02:14:44,640 --> 02:14:46,880
Speaker 5: Is how you see things. You ever have something happen

2448
02:14:47,520 --> 02:14:51,960
Speaker 5: and five people are there watching it, and each one

2449
02:14:52,000 --> 02:14:57,400
Speaker 5: of them has a different idea or different explanation about.

2450
02:14:57,120 --> 02:15:01,160
Speaker 11: What happened because everybody's not everybody's.

2451
02:15:00,720 --> 02:15:02,760
Speaker 5: Not tasting the same thing. A strawberry doesn't taste the

2452
02:15:02,760 --> 02:15:07,880
Speaker 5: same everybody. We're all having individual experiences. But in crowd

2453
02:15:08,000 --> 02:15:11,520
Speaker 5: control technology, they want everybody to feel the same, be

2454
02:15:11,680 --> 02:15:14,560
Speaker 5: the same. You know they have your standards are based

2455
02:15:14,600 --> 02:15:16,360
Speaker 5: on you know what they told you what an a

2456
02:15:16,640 --> 02:15:18,800
Speaker 5: is and what being good is, what being bad is.

2457
02:15:18,840 --> 02:15:23,720
Speaker 5: You're being programmed constantly right by the sheepherder. We're being

2458
02:15:23,840 --> 02:15:27,760
Speaker 5: programmed by the oppress or to feel and agree and

2459
02:15:28,000 --> 02:15:30,720
Speaker 5: vote in a certain way that may not be natural

2460
02:15:30,760 --> 02:15:34,520
Speaker 5: for us. For me exactly for me personally, because I

2461
02:15:34,600 --> 02:15:37,080
Speaker 5: stayed in music, I got out of a lot.

2462
02:15:37,560 --> 02:15:40,960
Speaker 11: I became really successful because I didn't listen to how.

2463
02:15:40,920 --> 02:15:43,280
Speaker 5: Hard it was and how tough it was. I loved music,

2464
02:15:43,760 --> 02:15:45,960
Speaker 5: so it wasn't about the money. It was about being

2465
02:15:46,040 --> 02:15:48,560
Speaker 5: focused and a lot of a line today it's about

2466
02:15:48,880 --> 02:15:51,960
Speaker 5: you know, our focus, what we're taking in and who

2467
02:15:52,040 --> 02:15:55,320
Speaker 5: we are becoming. We can change everything right now once

2468
02:15:55,360 --> 02:15:59,400
Speaker 5: you realize what's eating what's sucking your energy. So yes,

2469
02:15:59,480 --> 02:16:01,160
Speaker 5: I don't know you had a first question. I can't

2470
02:16:01,160 --> 02:16:03,480
Speaker 5: remember what that was, but my highest choices.

2471
02:16:03,240 --> 02:16:03,480
Speaker 7: That I.

2472
02:16:05,120 --> 02:16:07,520
Speaker 1: He's gone west. Some mother folks want to talk to you, doctor.

2473
02:16:07,560 --> 02:16:09,640
Speaker 1: Be ten away from the tough day Larry's and Maryland

2474
02:16:09,680 --> 02:16:12,000
Speaker 1: has a question for you. He's on line three, Grand

2475
02:16:12,080 --> 02:16:13,880
Speaker 1: Rising Larry. A question for doctor B.

2476
02:16:16,160 --> 02:16:22,160
Speaker 14: Grand Horizon, Brother Quacy and U to our special brother

2477
02:16:22,320 --> 02:16:25,840
Speaker 14: in my life Doctor B, who helped me with my

2478
02:16:26,000 --> 02:16:28,120
Speaker 14: father's death and get through that.

2479
02:16:28,960 --> 02:16:30,600
Speaker 7: Always be grateful to you, brother.

2480
02:16:32,520 --> 02:16:36,240
Speaker 14: I want to ask a question about when I was young,

2481
02:16:36,840 --> 02:16:39,920
Speaker 14: we had a dog house. Now the dogs are in

2482
02:16:40,040 --> 02:16:43,560
Speaker 14: the house and I would like for you to give

2483
02:16:43,680 --> 02:16:47,360
Speaker 14: us a well we ever get rid of parasites? Because

2484
02:16:47,360 --> 02:16:50,680
Speaker 14: I had never heard of tacto plasma until I heard you, teacher.

2485
02:16:51,480 --> 02:16:55,520
Speaker 14: That's my first question about our relationship with these animals

2486
02:16:55,560 --> 02:17:00,400
Speaker 14: in our house. My second question is this him for

2487
02:17:01,240 --> 02:17:03,680
Speaker 14: virus that's sweeping in India.

2488
02:17:04,520 --> 02:17:05,200
Speaker 3: What is that?

2489
02:17:10,640 --> 02:17:16,040
Speaker 5: First of all, did you know that the scientists don't

2490
02:17:16,879 --> 02:17:18,880
Speaker 5: None of them all agree on what a virus is.

2491
02:17:20,120 --> 02:17:21,680
Speaker 5: You know how you say the word virus like you

2492
02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:25,480
Speaker 5: think you draw a picture of virus. When I was

2493
02:17:25,600 --> 02:17:28,080
Speaker 5: teaching at UCLA, I went and hung out over the

2494
02:17:28,200 --> 02:17:31,200
Speaker 5: biomedical maps and I started asking about viruses, and they said, well,

2495
02:17:31,280 --> 02:17:38,000
Speaker 5: you know, viruses are a concept. Indeed, we've never really seen.

2496
02:17:38,480 --> 02:17:40,160
Speaker 5: Not long as a lot of folks are listening, they're

2497
02:17:40,160 --> 02:17:42,680
Speaker 5: probably getting upset. Oh my god, he's this guy's nuts.

2498
02:17:44,040 --> 02:17:47,560
Speaker 5: You have agreed and accepted the idea that there's this

2499
02:17:47,720 --> 02:17:50,800
Speaker 5: thing that can't be seen. It is so small, it's

2500
02:17:50,879 --> 02:17:54,000
Speaker 5: going to affect your life. We'd rather look at that

2501
02:17:54,320 --> 02:17:57,480
Speaker 5: versus what we're eating, the air and the water, the

2502
02:17:57,640 --> 02:18:01,840
Speaker 5: things that's spraying. That's what's causing the imbalances. Because your

2503
02:18:01,959 --> 02:18:05,320
Speaker 5: body can almost deal with anything from the natural world,

2504
02:18:05,480 --> 02:18:11,440
Speaker 5: almost anything if it is programmed correctly. If you're eating

2505
02:18:12,120 --> 02:18:16,400
Speaker 5: and living and thinking in a world where it's about

2506
02:18:16,560 --> 02:18:19,280
Speaker 5: main tink maintenance, we want to wait till we get

2507
02:18:19,280 --> 02:18:24,320
Speaker 5: a disease to jump on it. Viruses, right, are something

2508
02:18:24,400 --> 02:18:28,080
Speaker 5: that's Every scientist has a different theory of what it

2509
02:18:28,280 --> 02:18:30,160
Speaker 5: is and how to get rid of it. You can't.

2510
02:18:30,560 --> 02:18:32,119
Speaker 5: So why when you go to the doctor, they'll tell

2511
02:18:32,120 --> 02:18:35,000
Speaker 5: you you've got a virus. We're gonna give you an antibiotic.

2512
02:18:35,840 --> 02:18:39,840
Speaker 5: Antibiotics don't work on viruses, they only work on bacteria.

2513
02:18:40,680 --> 02:18:42,920
Speaker 5: But the mindset is that if I give you a

2514
02:18:43,000 --> 02:18:44,680
Speaker 5: shot or give you a pill and tell you what

2515
02:18:44,800 --> 02:18:47,920
Speaker 5: it's for, your own body will kick in and begin

2516
02:18:48,040 --> 02:18:50,720
Speaker 5: to do the work. That's a plus C bow. But

2517
02:18:50,920 --> 02:18:54,199
Speaker 5: if you feel that there's a problem right.

2518
02:18:54,160 --> 02:18:55,560
Speaker 11: That you don't even understand, you're.

2519
02:18:55,440 --> 02:18:58,720
Speaker 5: Just mimicking words and saying thing, then this called the

2520
02:18:58,840 --> 02:19:02,080
Speaker 5: no Sebol effect, no sea ball effects. Nothing is happening,

2521
02:19:02,160 --> 02:19:05,800
Speaker 5: but you believe it is. So you create the state,

2522
02:19:06,400 --> 02:19:10,680
Speaker 5: the physical, mental, and spiritual state for a disease or

2523
02:19:10,800 --> 02:19:14,120
Speaker 5: a problem that only exists in the minds of people

2524
02:19:14,200 --> 02:19:17,160
Speaker 5: that's being broadcast by what you call the oppressor or

2525
02:19:17,200 --> 02:19:21,600
Speaker 5: the enemy. So I am not in India. I can't

2526
02:19:21,680 --> 02:19:24,320
Speaker 5: tell you because they're giving me the broadcast. They're telling

2527
02:19:24,400 --> 02:19:26,160
Speaker 5: me what's going on. Will I should be afraid of it.

2528
02:19:26,240 --> 02:19:28,760
Speaker 5: It'll be here soon, that's what they tell you. It'll

2529
02:19:28,800 --> 02:19:34,080
Speaker 5: be here soon. So you go into fier state. Well,

2530
02:19:34,320 --> 02:19:36,000
Speaker 5: let's look at what you got on your plate today,

2531
02:19:36,640 --> 02:19:38,240
Speaker 5: what are you eating? What you eat today, what are

2532
02:19:38,280 --> 02:19:41,959
Speaker 5: you wearing, what are you thinking? How are you feeling

2533
02:19:42,000 --> 02:19:47,000
Speaker 5: about your life? That is what's going to bolster your

2534
02:19:47,120 --> 02:19:51,240
Speaker 5: immune system so that when something does happen, your body's

2535
02:19:51,320 --> 02:19:54,920
Speaker 5: able to respond. And you know something that you know

2536
02:19:54,959 --> 02:19:56,160
Speaker 5: in a minute time. I don't know if you give

2537
02:19:56,200 --> 02:19:58,200
Speaker 5: me tontiued to cup it. It's something I want to

2538
02:19:58,280 --> 02:20:00,080
Speaker 5: read from the book, because.

2539
02:19:59,840 --> 02:20:03,920
Speaker 11: This book is this book breaks these things down in

2540
02:20:04,040 --> 02:20:05,520
Speaker 11: such a way that I can't even do.

2541
02:20:06,080 --> 02:20:08,200
Speaker 5: You know, just speaking right now, you have to read

2542
02:20:08,280 --> 02:20:12,200
Speaker 5: the words because the words are written in a subconscious

2543
02:20:12,240 --> 02:20:14,480
Speaker 5: alignment protocol. What do you mean they have to be

2544
02:20:15,680 --> 02:20:18,720
Speaker 5: This is the first book I know of where the

2545
02:20:18,840 --> 02:20:25,200
Speaker 5: way it is written reprograms your subconscious mind, the way

2546
02:20:25,280 --> 02:20:27,480
Speaker 5: the words are written, way your eyes are moving on

2547
02:20:27,560 --> 02:20:27,960
Speaker 5: the page.

2548
02:20:28,000 --> 02:20:30,400
Speaker 11: And there's certain words I say at certain times, what's

2549
02:20:30,400 --> 02:20:30,760
Speaker 11: your key?

2550
02:20:30,959 --> 02:20:35,600
Speaker 5: Which are programs that unfold these deep divinity codes in

2551
02:20:36,200 --> 02:20:40,040
Speaker 5: your body? Because deep down in your mitochondria is what's

2552
02:20:40,120 --> 02:20:44,360
Speaker 5: called the divinity code, which there you're divine, you're perfect.

2553
02:20:44,480 --> 02:20:50,520
Speaker 5: Deep down in your mitochondria, there's no disease there. So

2554
02:20:50,959 --> 02:20:54,160
Speaker 5: once you tap into your divinity code, Once you tap

2555
02:20:54,240 --> 02:20:57,000
Speaker 5: into that divine part of it, you could change almost anything.

2556
02:20:57,200 --> 02:21:00,240
Speaker 11: You could do magic, you could create your mindset, and

2557
02:21:00,600 --> 02:21:02,080
Speaker 11: you will live a better life.

2558
02:21:02,879 --> 02:21:06,680
Speaker 5: In fact, on the March the first, in Atlanta, we're

2559
02:21:06,760 --> 02:21:10,560
Speaker 5: doing an event called the Divinity Codes Unlocking Divinity Codes.

2560
02:21:10,600 --> 02:21:13,920
Speaker 5: That's Billy Carson and myself. You can go to Elevation

2561
02:21:14,040 --> 02:21:15,680
Speaker 5: Time dot com if you want to come to that event.

2562
02:21:15,720 --> 02:21:20,199
Speaker 5: It's live in Atlanta. It'll also be online Unlocking Divinity Codes.

2563
02:21:20,320 --> 02:21:25,360
Speaker 5: It's huge, this concept of tapping into the self where

2564
02:21:25,400 --> 02:21:28,840
Speaker 5: there is no disease, where we're actually connected directly to

2565
02:21:29,040 --> 02:21:34,440
Speaker 5: the most high. It is the mind and the tissue

2566
02:21:34,480 --> 02:21:37,640
Speaker 5: that we've created, and the issues in the tissues that

2567
02:21:37,840 --> 02:21:40,400
Speaker 5: are actually saying, well, there's something going on in India

2568
02:21:40,480 --> 02:21:42,920
Speaker 5: that's in an Africa. We might catch this. So then

2569
02:21:42,959 --> 02:21:44,680
Speaker 5: we run down and we get shot, and we start

2570
02:21:44,760 --> 02:21:48,640
Speaker 5: doing all these things which we're created by the people

2571
02:21:49,000 --> 02:21:51,000
Speaker 5: who want you to run and buy drugs or do

2572
02:21:51,080 --> 02:21:53,960
Speaker 5: whatever they want you to do to actually make you

2573
02:21:54,040 --> 02:21:56,800
Speaker 5: feel like you're not powerful, when we are the most

2574
02:21:56,959 --> 02:22:01,440
Speaker 5: powerful carbonated beings that have ever lived. But we're also

2575
02:22:01,640 --> 02:22:06,560
Speaker 5: easily programmed and easily live in fear. So we become inferior.

2576
02:22:10,760 --> 02:22:12,920
Speaker 1: All right, five away from the top. You also asked

2577
02:22:12,920 --> 02:22:16,680
Speaker 1: about toxoplasma. Can you answer that real briefly because they're

2578
02:22:16,680 --> 02:22:17,440
Speaker 1: coming up on a break.

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Speaker 5: So, toxoplasma is a parasite that lives in the amygdala,

2580
02:22:24,400 --> 02:22:27,640
Speaker 5: the part of your brain that controls fear, anger on

2581
02:22:27,760 --> 02:22:31,720
Speaker 5: your emotion, and your emotions. Toxoplasma is a parasite that

2582
02:22:31,800 --> 02:22:33,760
Speaker 5: it started out in cats, but now it is in

2583
02:22:34,040 --> 02:22:37,520
Speaker 5: all of these it's throughout society. Most people are living

2584
02:22:37,600 --> 02:22:42,600
Speaker 5: today have this toxic plasma which controls your perception. So

2585
02:22:43,200 --> 02:22:46,200
Speaker 5: it controls your perception of fear and anger and joy

2586
02:22:46,320 --> 02:22:49,320
Speaker 5: and love and all of that. It manipulates your mindset.

2587
02:22:50,080 --> 02:22:54,520
Speaker 5: So when a mice or mouse has toxoplasma, it doesn't

2588
02:22:54,520 --> 02:22:57,680
Speaker 5: even run from the cat, So the cat just eats it.

2589
02:22:57,920 --> 02:22:59,640
Speaker 5: It doesn't even it doesn't ask out of it's a

2590
02:22:59,720 --> 02:23:02,000
Speaker 5: natural order. It takes it out of its natural rhythm.

2591
02:23:02,520 --> 02:23:05,040
Speaker 5: So they say up to seventy percent of the people

2592
02:23:05,120 --> 02:23:08,360
Speaker 5: right now have toxoplasma, which causes you to believe in

2593
02:23:08,480 --> 02:23:12,200
Speaker 5: things that are actually unbelievable. Unbelievable, and it causes you

2594
02:23:12,320 --> 02:23:15,560
Speaker 5: to look at things in a way which is disagreeable.

2595
02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:17,360
Speaker 5: When actually it could be agreeable.

2596
02:23:17,720 --> 02:23:19,199
Speaker 11: In other words, we talk.

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02:23:19,080 --> 02:23:21,480
Speaker 5: About all the things we've been through and how hard

2598
02:23:21,480 --> 02:23:25,320
Speaker 5: it's been. The most successful people on the earth have

2599
02:23:25,600 --> 02:23:30,040
Speaker 5: been through a lot. It is that toil in that

2600
02:23:30,240 --> 02:23:32,920
Speaker 5: that work that we must go through that makes us great.

2601
02:23:34,640 --> 02:23:38,039
Speaker 11: You have to go through things, and we don't like pain.

2602
02:23:37,920 --> 02:23:39,959
Speaker 5: And we don't like to be talked about in certain ways.

2603
02:23:40,480 --> 02:23:44,400
Speaker 5: Well that is, if you can overcome those things, you

2604
02:23:44,640 --> 02:23:45,920
Speaker 5: become successful.

2605
02:23:46,920 --> 02:23:49,920
Speaker 11: But if we're sitting here, it right.

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02:23:49,840 --> 02:23:51,800
Speaker 1: There at doctor being because we are to step aside

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02:23:51,800 --> 02:23:54,360
Speaker 1: for a few moments, stations can identify themselves down the

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02:23:54,400 --> 02:23:56,440
Speaker 1: line per of the FCC and we come back to

2609
02:23:56,480 --> 02:23:58,040
Speaker 1: I'll let you finish your thought. And also a tweeter

2610
02:23:58,120 --> 02:24:00,160
Speaker 1: wants to know what earth can we take toward off

2611
02:24:00,240 --> 02:24:03,280
Speaker 1: dementia and other symptoms, and they want to earth dementia

2612
02:24:03,320 --> 02:24:05,600
Speaker 1: that we're seeing comes from the COVID shot. I hope

2613
02:24:05,600 --> 02:24:07,600
Speaker 1: you responded out. When we get back, family, you two

2614
02:24:07,680 --> 02:24:09,640
Speaker 1: got a question for doctor B reach out to what's

2615
02:24:09,720 --> 02:24:12,520
Speaker 1: at eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight

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02:24:12,760 --> 02:24:19,640
Speaker 1: seventy six and we'll take phone calls next grantarizing family

2617
02:24:19,640 --> 02:24:21,480
Speaker 1: and thanks for starting your Wednesday with us and our

2618
02:24:21,520 --> 02:24:23,720
Speaker 1: guest that doctor B. As I mentioned, doctor B is

2619
02:24:23,720 --> 02:24:27,800
Speaker 1: a metaphysicians also a master herbalist, and doctor B got

2620
02:24:27,879 --> 02:24:29,760
Speaker 1: some questions coming if you've got a tweet question for

2621
02:24:29,840 --> 02:24:32,840
Speaker 1: you as well. But let me just remind folks, you

2622
02:24:32,879 --> 02:24:34,400
Speaker 1: have a new book out and the title of the

2623
02:24:34,400 --> 02:24:37,080
Speaker 1: book is What's Eating You? Doctor B. Before we left

2624
02:24:37,120 --> 02:24:39,280
Speaker 1: for the for the break, the question the tweet came

2625
02:24:39,320 --> 02:24:41,920
Speaker 1: into what herbs can we take toward off the dementia

2626
02:24:42,160 --> 02:24:44,280
Speaker 1: and other symptoms? And the person want to say if

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02:24:44,280 --> 02:24:46,600
Speaker 1: if this dimension that we're seeing comes from the COVID shot.

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02:24:48,640 --> 02:24:51,000
Speaker 5: First of all, we got to be very careful talking

2629
02:24:51,000 --> 02:24:54,360
Speaker 5: about that shot, and you know we would probably will

2630
02:24:54,440 --> 02:24:57,560
Speaker 5: be healthy for all of us, not that under air.

2631
02:24:58,200 --> 02:25:01,359
Speaker 5: But here's what I'm going to do tomorrow night, Thursday,

2632
02:25:01,440 --> 02:25:06,200
Speaker 5: I'm going to do a free class on protocols for

2633
02:25:06,360 --> 02:25:09,840
Speaker 5: major diseases. So we'll talk about, you know, a dementia,

2634
02:25:10,200 --> 02:25:13,199
Speaker 5: heart disease, kidney disease, many of the things that people

2635
02:25:13,240 --> 02:25:16,840
Speaker 5: are dealing with and what protocols, what herbs, what medicines,

2636
02:25:16,920 --> 02:25:21,200
Speaker 5: what minerals and mindsets can actually help to reverse or

2637
02:25:21,320 --> 02:25:24,160
Speaker 5: change or balance those conditions. So that's going to be

2638
02:25:24,240 --> 02:25:29,120
Speaker 5: tomorrow night at seven pm Eastern Standard time. Now, the

2639
02:25:29,240 --> 02:25:31,320
Speaker 5: only way you're gonna get this the link to it

2640
02:25:32,480 --> 02:25:36,760
Speaker 5: is to go to my email I mean my website

2641
02:25:37,280 --> 02:25:40,280
Speaker 5: elevation time dot com and join the email list, because

2642
02:25:40,320 --> 02:25:42,879
Speaker 5: I'm going to send out an email later on today

2643
02:25:43,440 --> 02:25:46,440
Speaker 5: to give you the link to get this free class

2644
02:25:46,560 --> 02:25:50,000
Speaker 5: tomorrow night. Tomorrow is seven. We're gonna talk about you

2645
02:25:50,080 --> 02:25:54,760
Speaker 5: can you can ask questions to major diseases and what herbs,

2646
02:25:54,840 --> 02:25:57,840
Speaker 5: what medicines, because it's not just herbs. There's a whole

2647
02:25:58,360 --> 02:26:00,880
Speaker 5: group of things that we can do to help balance

2648
02:26:00,920 --> 02:26:03,480
Speaker 5: our body and counteract many of what they're calling diseases.

2649
02:26:03,959 --> 02:26:09,720
Speaker 5: So I'll talk about that tomorrow. Yeah. You know what's interesting,

2650
02:26:10,400 --> 02:26:13,480
Speaker 5: A lot of folks were telling me you don't got

2651
02:26:13,520 --> 02:26:15,760
Speaker 5: to be you're gonna write a book. People aren't reading

2652
02:26:15,800 --> 02:26:16,440
Speaker 5: books anymore.

2653
02:26:17,320 --> 02:26:17,680
Speaker 10: Do you know.

2654
02:26:17,840 --> 02:26:23,160
Speaker 5: In the last fifteen years they've sold more books physical

2655
02:26:23,320 --> 02:26:27,360
Speaker 5: books than they have in almost twenty thirty years. People

2656
02:26:27,440 --> 02:26:30,280
Speaker 5: are going back to paper. They want to touch something

2657
02:26:30,600 --> 02:26:33,400
Speaker 5: they've been looking at screen forever. Now we're going to

2658
02:26:33,440 --> 02:26:35,560
Speaker 5: have an audio version of the book. The audio version

2659
02:26:35,560 --> 02:26:37,240
Speaker 5: of the book will be up tomorrow also, so you

2660
02:26:37,320 --> 02:26:40,640
Speaker 5: can get the book and the audio version and also

2661
02:26:40,720 --> 02:26:45,320
Speaker 5: the soundtrack. But touching a book, you know, moving away

2662
02:26:45,440 --> 02:26:47,879
Speaker 5: from the computer screens, because I talk about that too,

2663
02:26:48,440 --> 02:26:53,039
Speaker 5: how the technology can be a parasite. If you can't

2664
02:26:53,160 --> 02:26:56,720
Speaker 5: live without it, you can't think without the machine. They

2665
02:26:56,760 --> 02:26:58,600
Speaker 5: can put anything in the machine to control your mind.

2666
02:26:58,600 --> 02:27:01,480
Speaker 5: So we shouldn't complain about who's controlling you, because you're

2667
02:27:01,560 --> 02:27:04,800
Speaker 5: allowing yourself to be controlled, you see.

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02:27:05,000 --> 02:27:06,400
Speaker 11: But there's some things that we can.

2669
02:27:06,480 --> 02:27:09,240
Speaker 5: Control that we need to look at. But if we

2670
02:27:09,360 --> 02:27:11,720
Speaker 5: focus on what we can't control all day and we.

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02:27:11,840 --> 02:27:13,400
Speaker 11: Just go along to get along, then we're going to

2672
02:27:13,440 --> 02:27:14,160
Speaker 11: get what we're getting.

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02:27:14,560 --> 02:27:17,720
Speaker 5: The average person must choose, and this is the time

2674
02:27:17,800 --> 02:27:21,199
Speaker 5: of choosing to change your life. And the book also

2675
02:27:21,760 --> 02:27:23,680
Speaker 5: we talk a lot about what you can do to

2676
02:27:23,800 --> 02:27:28,360
Speaker 5: fix your situation. There's the back of the book, Karl

2677
02:27:29,120 --> 02:27:35,360
Speaker 5: is the biggest resource section, So it's a whole resource

2678
02:27:35,440 --> 02:27:39,640
Speaker 5: and reference guide to books and information and places you

2679
02:27:39,720 --> 02:27:42,200
Speaker 5: can go to receive what you need in your life

2680
02:27:42,240 --> 02:27:46,800
Speaker 5: and changeing the Just that section of the book is huge.

2681
02:27:47,120 --> 02:27:51,119
Speaker 5: I've never seen a list like this, movies to watch, videos,

2682
02:27:51,360 --> 02:27:54,960
Speaker 5: other books to read. So the book is about, you know,

2683
02:27:55,240 --> 02:27:57,600
Speaker 5: it doesn't just talk about the problem. We also have

2684
02:27:57,959 --> 02:28:00,960
Speaker 5: so many solutions and exercises that you can do in

2685
02:28:01,040 --> 02:28:01,960
Speaker 5: the book What's Eating You?

2686
02:28:03,760 --> 02:28:04,080
Speaker 3: All Right?

2687
02:28:04,200 --> 02:28:06,360
Speaker 1: Got a tweet question for you, doctor Betweeter, call into

2688
02:28:06,400 --> 02:28:09,280
Speaker 1: the studio. Wants to know, once you repeat, what are

2689
02:28:09,320 --> 02:28:11,720
Speaker 1: the frequencies that we should be using or looking for

2690
02:28:12,000 --> 02:28:15,640
Speaker 1: specifically and again, because many of us are not audio files,

2691
02:28:15,680 --> 02:28:19,360
Speaker 1: so we don't understand the different frequencies. So if you

2692
02:28:19,400 --> 02:28:21,160
Speaker 1: can expound that, I appreciate it.

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02:28:23,280 --> 02:28:23,480
Speaker 4: Well.

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02:28:25,600 --> 02:28:29,440
Speaker 5: You see, this is a very technical thing. If you

2695
02:28:29,600 --> 02:28:32,200
Speaker 5: look for music, you're not gonna see this usually written

2696
02:28:33,280 --> 02:28:35,520
Speaker 5: in the description of the music. But we're looking for

2697
02:28:35,640 --> 02:28:40,560
Speaker 5: the frequency four third, four thirty two hurts HD. But

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02:28:40,680 --> 02:28:43,040
Speaker 5: that's not the only one. That's five twenty eight, there's

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02:28:43,120 --> 02:28:46,120
Speaker 5: four seventeen. There's a lot of frequency where music is

2700
02:28:46,240 --> 02:28:48,640
Speaker 5: tuned to these natural sounds. And I'm gonna tell you

2701
02:28:48,640 --> 02:28:50,879
Speaker 5: from one place where you're gonna hear it. You're gonna

2702
02:28:50,959 --> 02:28:54,200
Speaker 5: hear it. You're gonna experience it in a lot of

2703
02:28:54,400 --> 02:28:59,680
Speaker 5: indigenous music, So music from the continent, music from India,

2704
02:29:00,200 --> 02:29:03,360
Speaker 5: music from China, A lot of the indigenous people are

2705
02:29:03,560 --> 02:29:09,199
Speaker 5: using these natural frequencies. So you can feel it soon.

2706
02:29:09,120 --> 02:29:11,320
Speaker 11: As you're saying, like, if you gonna hear some drummers

2707
02:29:11,360 --> 02:29:11,520
Speaker 11: in the.

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02:29:11,560 --> 02:29:17,760
Speaker 5: Park, they're not playing these program the unnatural frequency, you see.

2709
02:29:18,320 --> 02:29:22,000
Speaker 5: So it's kind of a technical thing, but I'm saying

2710
02:29:22,000 --> 02:29:23,840
Speaker 5: that I'm offering it in the music that I'm making.

2711
02:29:24,160 --> 02:29:26,560
Speaker 5: Then I've got music at elevation time dot com. And

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02:29:26,640 --> 02:29:33,199
Speaker 5: it also is a twenty two song cond a soundtrack

2713
02:29:33,400 --> 02:29:35,480
Speaker 5: that comes with the book if you buy it that way,

2714
02:29:35,720 --> 02:29:38,600
Speaker 5: that's one of the options where you can hear seven

2715
02:29:38,800 --> 02:29:42,080
Speaker 5: hours of music that actually changes your frequency and can

2716
02:29:42,200 --> 02:29:45,600
Speaker 5: heal your body from disease just by listening to tones,

2717
02:29:45,879 --> 02:29:48,760
Speaker 5: because your body is made out of frequency, It's made

2718
02:29:48,800 --> 02:29:54,280
Speaker 5: out of tone. Your body is vibrational. Every cell, every organ,

2719
02:29:54,360 --> 02:29:57,760
Speaker 5: every organ is based on frequency. Sound.

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02:29:57,920 --> 02:30:00,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but let me know for a second, doctor, I

2721
02:30:00,120 --> 02:30:02,960
Speaker 1: think what the question who calling the steward wanted to find?

2722
02:30:03,080 --> 02:30:06,720
Speaker 1: How can we tell the difference? Because put your music aside,

2723
02:30:06,959 --> 02:30:10,480
Speaker 1: the music that we're hearing now on the radio or online,

2724
02:30:10,640 --> 02:30:13,160
Speaker 1: how can we tell what sort of frequency it's on.

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02:30:13,720 --> 02:30:14,640
Speaker 1: I think that's the question.

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02:30:15,520 --> 02:30:19,080
Speaker 5: You probably can't. That's what I'm trying to tell you.

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02:30:19,280 --> 02:30:24,199
Speaker 5: Most music that is commercial, if it's in a commercial medium,

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02:30:24,360 --> 02:30:27,840
Speaker 5: they've already tuned it, they've done it. You can't tell

2729
02:30:27,920 --> 02:30:30,080
Speaker 5: the difference because it's.

2730
02:30:29,959 --> 02:30:32,600
Speaker 11: Almost like, how can I tell the difference if my

2731
02:30:32,680 --> 02:30:33,560
Speaker 11: herbs are working or not?

2732
02:30:35,160 --> 02:30:37,000
Speaker 5: Or how can I tell the difference of a vegan

2733
02:30:37,120 --> 02:30:39,560
Speaker 5: or a better diet or whatever it is better for me?

2734
02:30:40,200 --> 02:30:43,440
Speaker 5: You might not know. I'm just saying you have to

2735
02:30:43,640 --> 02:30:45,120
Speaker 5: experience it, and.

2736
02:30:45,160 --> 02:30:47,520
Speaker 11: Once you experience it, when you hear it, you'll say, oh,

2737
02:30:48,959 --> 02:30:50,240
Speaker 11: you know, one day, maybe we could.

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02:30:50,040 --> 02:30:52,600
Speaker 5: Take everybody in the studio and actually show them the difference.

2739
02:30:54,120 --> 02:30:57,360
Speaker 5: So this thing is not something you're going to recognize.

2740
02:30:58,560 --> 02:31:00,560
Speaker 5: How do you know when your medical die is telling

2741
02:31:00,600 --> 02:31:02,720
Speaker 5: you something basically that the pharmacists told them, or the

2742
02:31:03,200 --> 02:31:05,640
Speaker 5: or the drug companies told me, versus something that's really

2743
02:31:05,720 --> 02:31:07,880
Speaker 5: for you, You're not gonna know because you think the

2744
02:31:07,959 --> 02:31:10,680
Speaker 5: doctor is working for you. No, a lot of times

2745
02:31:10,760 --> 02:31:14,640
Speaker 5: your doctor is working for the for the pharmological companies.

2746
02:31:16,040 --> 02:31:18,600
Speaker 5: You don't know. You think that this is the cause

2747
02:31:18,640 --> 02:31:21,599
Speaker 5: of this disease. And a lot of times the doctor.

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02:31:21,640 --> 02:31:22,240
Speaker 11: Can't tell you.

2749
02:31:22,400 --> 02:31:25,280
Speaker 5: He's bound by law not to tell you what's really

2750
02:31:25,400 --> 02:31:29,160
Speaker 5: causing your illness, what's really causing Why is heart disease

2751
02:31:30,160 --> 02:31:34,120
Speaker 5: one of the number one problems on the planet. High

2752
02:31:34,160 --> 02:31:35,720
Speaker 5: blood pressure, low blood pressure?

2753
02:31:35,760 --> 02:31:36,000
Speaker 10: What it is?

2754
02:31:36,080 --> 02:31:38,160
Speaker 5: High blood pressure? We don't even know. Do you know

2755
02:31:38,280 --> 02:31:41,960
Speaker 5: what you think high blood pressure is? It isn't because

2756
02:31:41,959 --> 02:31:44,480
Speaker 5: they keep changing the standard and they keep changing the numbers.

2757
02:31:45,520 --> 02:31:47,280
Speaker 5: I'm not saying people don't have it and it's not

2758
02:31:47,360 --> 02:31:47,840
Speaker 5: a problem.

2759
02:31:47,920 --> 02:31:49,720
Speaker 11: I'm saying that you don't.

2760
02:31:49,560 --> 02:31:52,600
Speaker 5: Know what it really should be for your cellular makeup.

2761
02:31:53,560 --> 02:31:57,560
Speaker 5: Each person is individual. We got to individualize this thing.

2762
02:31:57,840 --> 02:31:59,840
Speaker 5: And we're so deep in the rabbit hole right.

2763
02:31:59,760 --> 02:32:01,320
Speaker 11: Now we don't know what the heck is going on,

2764
02:32:02,640 --> 02:32:03,959
Speaker 11: you see, so check it out.

2765
02:32:04,040 --> 02:32:06,080
Speaker 5: I woke up, I looked at the news real quick, right,

2766
02:32:06,640 --> 02:32:08,920
Speaker 5: and they talked about all the shootings that have just happened,

2767
02:32:09,680 --> 02:32:13,080
Speaker 5: like twenty four hours. Did anybody mention any all the

2768
02:32:13,160 --> 02:32:15,760
Speaker 5: good things people who changed the diet, people who healed

2769
02:32:15,800 --> 02:32:20,000
Speaker 5: from disease today, people who broke through, people who became millionaires,

2770
02:32:20,080 --> 02:32:22,320
Speaker 5: or people who had a new idea, people who broke

2771
02:32:22,360 --> 02:32:26,000
Speaker 5: out of depression. Do they talk about that all you're

2772
02:32:26,040 --> 02:32:29,720
Speaker 5: getting through the news right? Most times it's about how

2773
02:32:30,040 --> 02:32:33,160
Speaker 5: bad it is. I'm saying that that could not be

2774
02:32:33,320 --> 02:32:35,640
Speaker 5: totally true, because we would have just self destructed A

2775
02:32:35,720 --> 02:32:39,120
Speaker 5: long time ago. Everything is connected to its opposite. So

2776
02:32:39,200 --> 02:32:41,600
Speaker 5: there is good, there is bad. But you've got to

2777
02:32:41,640 --> 02:32:44,119
Speaker 5: be able to focus your energy towards something that can

2778
02:32:44,240 --> 02:32:48,120
Speaker 5: give you energy, not saying that there's not that there's

2779
02:32:48,160 --> 02:32:52,480
Speaker 5: there's storm, there's going to be storms, but it's all temporary.

2780
02:32:53,240 --> 02:32:57,000
Speaker 5: It's about finding balance. It's about creating what's called home

2781
02:32:57,040 --> 02:33:00,640
Speaker 5: io spaces. And if you're being fed all this stuff

2782
02:33:00,720 --> 02:33:05,600
Speaker 5: about on all this stimuli constantly about how bad it is,

2783
02:33:06,680 --> 02:33:09,879
Speaker 5: then guess what that becomes your world. It's a program.

2784
02:33:10,320 --> 02:33:13,199
Speaker 5: You gonna learn how to turn that stuff off. Walk,

2785
02:33:13,879 --> 02:33:16,520
Speaker 5: go outside and get some air, Listen to the birds.

2786
02:33:16,560 --> 02:33:20,040
Speaker 5: Put your naked feet on the ground. How come in

2787
02:33:20,120 --> 02:33:22,920
Speaker 5: on losing that in the mainstream. If you could change

2788
02:33:22,920 --> 02:33:25,440
Speaker 5: your blood pressure and your heart rate by just putting

2789
02:33:25,480 --> 02:33:30,280
Speaker 5: your naked feet on the ground, did you ever have

2790
02:33:30,440 --> 02:33:33,160
Speaker 5: your medical doctor tell you, well, we found out that

2791
02:33:33,240 --> 02:33:36,959
Speaker 5: you have blah blah blah, go outside every day, put

2792
02:33:36,959 --> 02:33:40,520
Speaker 5: your naked feet on the ground. Didn't when he say

2793
02:33:40,600 --> 02:33:45,240
Speaker 5: that that could change everything? Because we're disconnected from the earth,

2794
02:33:46,040 --> 02:33:49,880
Speaker 5: we're disconnected from our environment, our natural environment, and we

2795
02:33:49,959 --> 02:33:53,520
Speaker 5: live in these boxes. You know, we listened, we look

2796
02:33:53,600 --> 02:33:57,160
Speaker 5: at these screens all day. What diseases are being caused

2797
02:33:57,200 --> 02:34:00,800
Speaker 5: from us staring at these screens? Barb, did imagine ever

2798
02:34:00,800 --> 02:34:02,920
Speaker 5: the news and how we need to take a break.

2799
02:34:03,000 --> 02:34:07,080
Speaker 5: I talk about that in the book once you understand

2800
02:34:07,160 --> 02:34:09,880
Speaker 5: the Flexner report, and when you're ready, toyl, I'm want

2801
02:34:09,879 --> 02:34:11,480
Speaker 5: to read something from the book about that, and I

2802
02:34:11,560 --> 02:34:13,720
Speaker 5: think we'll get a better picture of what's happening here.

2803
02:34:15,400 --> 02:34:17,080
Speaker 1: All right, Well hold that thought right there. At ten,

2804
02:34:17,120 --> 02:34:18,680
Speaker 1: I have the top there because stand wants you to

2805
02:34:18,720 --> 02:34:21,960
Speaker 1: check in. He's calling from Chicago's Online too. Grand Rising

2806
02:34:22,080 --> 02:34:23,960
Speaker 1: Stand here on with doctor B.

2807
02:34:25,560 --> 02:34:29,600
Speaker 22: Greetings and Grand Rising Carl and doctor B and doctor

2808
02:34:29,640 --> 02:34:32,440
Speaker 22: B gratitude for everything you've done to raise our collective

2809
02:34:32,480 --> 02:34:37,199
Speaker 22: consciousness in this whole world of health, wellness and just understanding,

2810
02:34:37,280 --> 02:34:39,800
Speaker 22: understanding our bodies. I didn't want to go into this

2811
02:34:39,920 --> 02:34:44,720
Speaker 22: whole thing of legalization of cannabis, and I'm just wondering

2812
02:34:45,080 --> 02:34:48,720
Speaker 22: if you could help us to understand understand the primary

2813
02:34:48,800 --> 02:34:51,640
Speaker 22: parasites and play there. I think I have some ideas,

2814
02:34:51,720 --> 02:34:53,840
Speaker 22: but I was just wondering if you could dive into

2815
02:34:53,920 --> 02:34:55,720
Speaker 22: that since it's kind of been one of these things

2816
02:34:55,760 --> 02:34:57,800
Speaker 22: that's kind of you know, it started in the whole

2817
02:34:57,879 --> 02:35:00,320
Speaker 22: medical helping people with cancer, and now it's kind of

2818
02:35:00,440 --> 02:35:02,760
Speaker 22: just kind of got its own forms and doing its

2819
02:35:02,800 --> 02:35:05,240
Speaker 22: own thing. What can you tell us about the risk

2820
02:35:05,400 --> 02:35:08,360
Speaker 22: in that whole play and also how could you break

2821
02:35:08,400 --> 02:35:10,920
Speaker 22: the bonds of the primary parasites that are in play

2822
02:35:11,000 --> 02:35:12,760
Speaker 22: in that? And I don't know, maybe you talk about

2823
02:35:12,800 --> 02:35:15,160
Speaker 22: nakedin too, since you know those are kind of similar

2824
02:35:15,640 --> 02:35:17,360
Speaker 22: in how those industries have taken shape.

2825
02:35:18,040 --> 02:35:21,920
Speaker 5: That's my question for today. Thank you sir. Wow you

2826
02:35:22,080 --> 02:35:23,720
Speaker 5: just went deep, didn't You just went right.

2827
02:35:23,680 --> 02:35:24,200
Speaker 12: On in there?

2828
02:35:24,680 --> 02:35:34,760
Speaker 5: Okay? Wow? Do you notice that when marijuana or cannabis

2829
02:35:35,920 --> 02:35:42,160
Speaker 5: was natural, it was illegal. The minute they made it

2830
02:35:42,360 --> 02:35:45,720
Speaker 5: legal in certain states, they begin to turn it into

2831
02:35:45,800 --> 02:35:49,080
Speaker 5: a drug. They changed it chemically, they changed the genes

2832
02:35:49,160 --> 02:35:53,840
Speaker 5: of it. And if now, if you're buying it from

2833
02:35:53,920 --> 02:35:56,520
Speaker 5: these places where it's legal, you're going in these shops,

2834
02:35:56,640 --> 02:36:00,800
Speaker 5: most likely you're not getting the organic, natural version of cannabis,

2835
02:36:00,840 --> 02:36:03,480
Speaker 5: which is one of the most powerful medicines that ever existed.

2836
02:36:05,080 --> 02:36:09,040
Speaker 5: It was illegal when it was natural and organic. The

2837
02:36:09,200 --> 02:36:11,680
Speaker 5: minute they took over and said it's going to be legal,

2838
02:36:11,879 --> 02:36:15,600
Speaker 5: they turned it into a drug. It is not the same.

2839
02:36:17,280 --> 02:36:19,400
Speaker 5: If you look at the chemicals they use just to

2840
02:36:19,480 --> 02:36:21,840
Speaker 5: keep the bugs and the fungus off of it. These

2841
02:36:21,879 --> 02:36:25,880
Speaker 5: are toxic to human beings. They've got all these different strains,

2842
02:36:26,320 --> 02:36:28,320
Speaker 5: you know, all this stings. They've played with this so

2843
02:36:28,520 --> 02:36:31,119
Speaker 5: much that they control it. It's a drug now, it's

2844
02:36:31,160 --> 02:36:34,080
Speaker 5: big business. So we have to be very careful. And

2845
02:36:34,120 --> 02:36:35,720
Speaker 5: if you're going to use the plant, you have to

2846
02:36:35,800 --> 02:36:38,160
Speaker 5: use it responsibly. You've got to figure out what is

2847
02:36:38,200 --> 02:36:41,400
Speaker 5: a natural strain, where does it grow, what's organic, what's not.

2848
02:36:41,720 --> 02:36:44,400
Speaker 5: So I would get deep into studying that, you know,

2849
02:36:44,600 --> 02:36:47,840
Speaker 5: So watch when they make something legal all of a sudden.

2850
02:36:47,959 --> 02:36:54,040
Speaker 5: It's got to do with business. What was the second question? Oh, parasites.

2851
02:36:54,720 --> 02:36:58,040
Speaker 5: So uh, the parasites that control our minds. We were

2852
02:36:58,040 --> 02:37:04,119
Speaker 5: talking about toxoplasma earlier. Taxoplasma controls your thinking. It keeps

2853
02:37:04,160 --> 02:37:05,920
Speaker 5: the animals because a lot of the animals and the

2854
02:37:06,000 --> 02:37:07,879
Speaker 5: feed lots of the domesticated animals.

2855
02:37:08,480 --> 02:37:10,400
Speaker 11: They say, a farmer.

2856
02:37:10,240 --> 02:37:13,279
Speaker 5: Told me that they actually make sure that they have toxoplasma.

2857
02:37:13,600 --> 02:37:17,480
Speaker 5: Why because they don't run away. They're domesticated. They may

2858
02:37:17,560 --> 02:37:21,480
Speaker 5: be agitated, right, but they don't run away. They can't

2859
02:37:21,520 --> 02:37:24,199
Speaker 5: come together in a herd, they can't. They can't gather

2860
02:37:24,200 --> 02:37:26,640
Speaker 5: it in a collective consciousness to do what the natural

2861
02:37:26,720 --> 02:37:31,519
Speaker 5: animals do. So people, right, if the average person has taxoplasma,

2862
02:37:31,600 --> 02:37:34,760
Speaker 5: which is a fact, then we can't tap into the

2863
02:37:34,800 --> 02:37:38,120
Speaker 5: collective consciousness or a cosmic consciousness to remember who we are.

2864
02:37:38,560 --> 02:37:41,360
Speaker 5: We're agitated, we're upset, we're mad. But how do we

2865
02:37:41,440 --> 02:37:43,360
Speaker 5: come together? How do we change things? What do we do?

2866
02:37:44,440 --> 02:37:48,320
Speaker 11: It's toxoplasma and people say, well, I take my.

2867
02:37:48,400 --> 02:37:51,720
Speaker 5: Herbs and I took something for parasite. You have never

2868
02:37:51,840 --> 02:37:56,480
Speaker 5: taken anything for taxoplasma unless you've done our Elevated Total

2869
02:37:56,520 --> 02:38:00,880
Speaker 5: Body program because it's specifically programmed to help eradicate or

2870
02:38:00,959 --> 02:38:04,520
Speaker 5: turn down the frequency or shut off the communication factor

2871
02:38:04,560 --> 02:38:08,600
Speaker 5: between toxoplasma and taxoplasmosis. And also there's another one called

2872
02:38:08,760 --> 02:38:11,640
Speaker 5: uri plasma, which has to do with causing people to

2873
02:38:11,840 --> 02:38:15,840
Speaker 5: mate with other people so that the parasite can travel

2874
02:38:15,920 --> 02:38:18,840
Speaker 5: from person to person. A lot of people that you're

2875
02:38:18,920 --> 02:38:22,240
Speaker 5: choosing to mate with, they have a certain smell, they

2876
02:38:22,320 --> 02:38:24,879
Speaker 5: have a certain way of talking, eye movement, and it's

2877
02:38:24,920 --> 02:38:28,720
Speaker 5: the parasites that's controlling that. This thing is so deep

2878
02:38:30,400 --> 02:38:33,320
Speaker 5: and this isn't something that was just like this is

2879
02:38:33,360 --> 02:38:38,280
Speaker 5: almost like an alien invasion. So even when we talk

2880
02:38:38,320 --> 02:38:40,960
Speaker 5: about the chemicals of the marijuana and all those things,

2881
02:38:41,040 --> 02:38:45,440
Speaker 5: the people are gravitating towards these artificial things because there's

2882
02:38:45,480 --> 02:38:50,200
Speaker 5: an artificial antagonist living in our brain making decisions for us.

2883
02:38:50,280 --> 02:38:53,240
Speaker 5: But how we bote, how we think, how we talk.

2884
02:38:54,080 --> 02:38:58,280
Speaker 5: Toxoplasma is the brain or mind control parasite that keeps

2885
02:38:58,360 --> 02:39:01,560
Speaker 5: the slaves enslaves read even if they're all the quote

2886
02:39:01,600 --> 02:39:02,959
Speaker 5: unquote physical plant patient.

2887
02:39:04,000 --> 02:39:05,880
Speaker 1: You know, when you just said something, I want you

2888
02:39:05,959 --> 02:39:08,160
Speaker 1: expound on it. Are you saying that the people who

2889
02:39:08,200 --> 02:39:11,560
Speaker 1: are swirling is caused by toxic plasma? Is that the

2890
02:39:11,640 --> 02:39:15,960
Speaker 1: reason why these folks who are jumping the fence because

2891
02:39:15,959 --> 02:39:18,040
Speaker 1: of some sort of talk to the plasma in their

2892
02:39:18,080 --> 02:39:21,560
Speaker 1: body they're attracted to to the other side. Is that

2893
02:39:21,640 --> 02:39:23,320
Speaker 1: what you're trying to sell start to be? How hold

2894
02:39:23,360 --> 02:39:24,959
Speaker 1: you response? I'm just looking at the Clockie. We gotta

2895
02:39:24,959 --> 02:39:26,840
Speaker 1: step aside for a few moments. We come back. I'll

2896
02:39:26,920 --> 02:39:27,560
Speaker 1: let you explain that.

2897
02:39:27,760 --> 02:39:28,000
Speaker 5: Also.

2898
02:39:28,040 --> 02:39:31,360
Speaker 1: The Buffalo soldier calling from Alabama has a question for you. Family,

2899
02:39:31,400 --> 02:39:33,879
Speaker 1: YouTube can join our conversation with doctor Bate. Just reach

2900
02:39:33,959 --> 02:39:37,480
Speaker 1: out to listen. Eight hundred four five zero seventy eight

2901
02:39:38,040 --> 02:39:49,280
Speaker 1: seventy six, and we'll take a phone calls next. Thank

2902
02:39:49,360 --> 02:39:51,920
Speaker 1: Grandarizing family, thanks for rolling with listen on this Wednesday

2903
02:39:51,959 --> 02:39:54,400
Speaker 1: morning with our guest and doctor b. Doctor be'es a

2904
02:39:54,400 --> 02:39:57,119
Speaker 1: metaphysicians and master herbalist. He's just put out his new book.

2905
02:39:57,320 --> 02:39:59,920
Speaker 1: This book is titled What's Eating I'm talking about Paris

2906
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:02,000
Speaker 1: science and stuff like that. What are your thoughts? You

2907
02:40:02,040 --> 02:40:04,039
Speaker 1: want to join in this discussion, reach out to us

2908
02:40:04,080 --> 02:40:07,440
Speaker 1: at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six.

2909
02:40:07,560 --> 02:40:10,320
Speaker 1: Doctor be My question to you, and we got Buffalo

2910
02:40:10,400 --> 02:40:12,440
Speaker 1: Soldier on online waiting for you. But my question to you,

2911
02:40:12,480 --> 02:40:16,280
Speaker 1: because you mentioned this toxoplasma, is that the reason why

2912
02:40:16,440 --> 02:40:19,040
Speaker 1: why some of our folks are swirling some people, you know,

2913
02:40:19,360 --> 02:40:21,440
Speaker 1: moving on the other side when they're looking for a mate.

2914
02:40:23,520 --> 02:40:27,720
Speaker 5: Well, it's a funny thing because toxoplasma connected to uri plasma,

2915
02:40:27,800 --> 02:40:32,320
Speaker 5: which lives in the reproductive area. It has you attracted

2916
02:40:32,440 --> 02:40:36,040
Speaker 5: to people or things that you normally naturally might not

2917
02:40:36,120 --> 02:40:40,080
Speaker 5: be attracted to. You're attracted to some things only because

2918
02:40:40,120 --> 02:40:44,280
Speaker 5: the parasite is signaling you to go move be with

2919
02:40:44,480 --> 02:40:48,800
Speaker 5: this person, mate with this person. So the parasite can

2920
02:40:49,040 --> 02:40:53,640
Speaker 5: travel from one person to another person, and then that

2921
02:40:53,760 --> 02:40:56,920
Speaker 5: person passes it on to another person and it just

2922
02:40:57,200 --> 02:41:00,440
Speaker 5: travels to society. Because you know, lot of times you

2923
02:41:00,560 --> 02:41:02,840
Speaker 5: find out after a certain amount of time that you

2924
02:41:03,000 --> 02:41:05,160
Speaker 5: picked this person and you weren't even in harmony with

2925
02:41:05,240 --> 02:41:08,360
Speaker 5: this person. Why is there so much divorce in so

2926
02:41:08,440 --> 02:41:11,760
Speaker 5: many breakups? Because at first you're all excited in the

2927
02:41:11,800 --> 02:41:15,120
Speaker 5: honeymoon period, Oh my god, this is great. Then later

2928
02:41:15,240 --> 02:41:18,040
Speaker 5: on the subconscious of each person comes out in the truth.

2929
02:41:18,520 --> 02:41:20,320
Speaker 5: They no longer do their hair the way they did,

2930
02:41:20,400 --> 02:41:23,240
Speaker 5: They actually lied to you about this, or they didn't know,

2931
02:41:23,400 --> 02:41:25,959
Speaker 5: or you start finding out about things about this person

2932
02:41:27,040 --> 02:41:29,360
Speaker 5: which you're not in harmony with. You're not a match

2933
02:41:30,320 --> 02:41:32,840
Speaker 5: or mismatch. Why a lot of it is because you're

2934
02:41:33,000 --> 02:41:36,519
Speaker 5: being urged by a parasite or a group of parasites

2935
02:41:36,920 --> 02:41:40,520
Speaker 5: to do things, to buy things, to involve yourself in

2936
02:41:40,760 --> 02:41:43,600
Speaker 5: activities that are not natural, and they're not the best

2937
02:41:43,760 --> 02:41:49,080
Speaker 5: for you. You see, It's like, you know, folks want

2938
02:41:49,080 --> 02:41:51,200
Speaker 5: to talk about trauma. Like two people can have, you know,

2939
02:41:51,480 --> 02:41:54,480
Speaker 5: meet somewhere and they trauma, bond on about how bad

2940
02:41:54,560 --> 02:41:57,320
Speaker 5: it is. They may become best friends now because they

2941
02:41:57,400 --> 02:42:00,320
Speaker 5: both talk about trauma. All the time in drama, watch

2942
02:42:00,640 --> 02:42:04,800
Speaker 5: drama television. They vote as victocrats. They're victims of everything.

2943
02:42:04,959 --> 02:42:08,720
Speaker 5: Those people are really great friends. That's not naturally them.

2944
02:42:08,840 --> 02:42:15,160
Speaker 5: Usually that's who they become based on programming, based onism, right,

2945
02:42:15,320 --> 02:42:19,679
Speaker 5: based on suppression, and based on a parasite. The parasite

2946
02:42:20,480 --> 02:42:22,600
Speaker 5: is one of the biggest reasons why we can't come

2947
02:42:22,640 --> 02:42:26,160
Speaker 5: together even as a people. We have an issue because

2948
02:42:26,200 --> 02:42:29,240
Speaker 5: the parasite controls your mind and keeps you like a

2949
02:42:29,320 --> 02:42:32,720
Speaker 5: slave and creates it's like a government, it's like a

2950
02:42:32,760 --> 02:42:36,080
Speaker 5: secret agent agent. It's like what they call a Manchurian

2951
02:42:36,160 --> 02:42:42,119
Speaker 5: effect Manchurian candidate, where you self destruct, you self.

2952
02:42:41,959 --> 02:42:45,959
Speaker 11: Sabotage yourself in so many different ways.

2953
02:42:46,000 --> 02:42:49,480
Speaker 5: And even when you're mating somebody or talking to somebody,

2954
02:42:50,680 --> 02:42:54,000
Speaker 5: you don't even know who what you're naturally attracted to

2955
02:42:54,080 --> 02:42:59,600
Speaker 5: because you've been under control of this parasite toxoplasma that

2956
02:42:59,760 --> 02:43:05,000
Speaker 5: needs be in the news. Who's mentioning that? All? Right?

2957
02:43:05,040 --> 02:43:07,240
Speaker 1: Hold right there? Twenty two after the top day I

2958
02:43:07,280 --> 02:43:09,600
Speaker 1: as I mentioned the Buffalo Soldiers reaching out to us.

2959
02:43:09,640 --> 02:43:12,760
Speaker 1: He's calling from Alabama. He's on line two, Grand Rising

2960
02:43:12,800 --> 02:43:14,440
Speaker 1: Buffalo Soldier. You're on with doctor B.

2961
02:43:16,320 --> 02:43:20,600
Speaker 23: Grand rising my brothers, and so it's in order to

2962
02:43:20,800 --> 02:43:23,879
Speaker 23: listen to doctor B this morning. I hadn't seen him

2963
02:43:23,920 --> 02:43:27,600
Speaker 23: in about twenty maybe twenty five years ago. I was

2964
02:43:27,720 --> 02:43:32,240
Speaker 23: with our ancestor Mary Kyrah and he was over there visiting,

2965
02:43:32,360 --> 02:43:34,600
Speaker 23: and I was just coming from a rat and he

2966
02:43:34,800 --> 02:43:36,959
Speaker 23: was stole in me, but he said, brother, you got

2967
02:43:37,000 --> 02:43:41,439
Speaker 23: to do better. But I'm on the journey now another ancestor,

2968
02:43:41,680 --> 02:43:45,480
Speaker 23: doctor gutters God, And I'm trying to get in contact

2969
02:43:45,560 --> 02:43:48,200
Speaker 23: with taking the right urge again because I couldn't get

2970
02:43:48,240 --> 02:43:52,080
Speaker 23: in contact with anyone that's new. Body talked with doctor

2971
02:43:52,200 --> 02:43:55,280
Speaker 23: saby Son a week or two ago. But now I'm

2972
02:43:55,280 --> 02:43:59,480
Speaker 23: trying to find out about betoking my body and most

2973
02:43:59,520 --> 02:44:03,800
Speaker 23: of all using contorting centigrade and what do you have

2974
02:44:04,080 --> 02:44:07,359
Speaker 23: similar to a ckls? And I'll listen to your respond

2975
02:44:08,600 --> 02:44:10,720
Speaker 23: over the phone. And I want to let you know

2976
02:44:10,879 --> 02:44:13,000
Speaker 23: it was an honor to see you, which was about

2977
02:44:13,600 --> 02:44:17,520
Speaker 23: twenty some twenty five years ago. And Mary carl Ros said.

2978
02:44:17,840 --> 02:44:19,879
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna eat meat anymore.

2979
02:44:19,480 --> 02:44:21,560
Speaker 23: Almost twenty five years ago, and we went over to

2980
02:44:21,640 --> 02:44:23,680
Speaker 23: the Golden Bird and now was the last time he

2981
02:44:23,800 --> 02:44:26,720
Speaker 23: ever ate meat, and that brother, he lifted me up

2982
02:44:26,840 --> 02:44:29,400
Speaker 23: so many years. He was my mentor and I want

2983
02:44:29,480 --> 02:44:32,080
Speaker 23: to thank you and I'm gonna listen to your respond

2984
02:44:32,200 --> 02:44:34,920
Speaker 23: you have a good day of brother group, doctor me.

2985
02:44:36,000 --> 02:44:40,880
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, Thanks Buffalos all, Joe. Nice memories there,

2986
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Speaker 1: don kiep But go ahead, so go to Elevation Time

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Speaker 1: dot com. Elevation Time dot com. I have a lot

2988
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Speaker 1: of solutions that can help you know many of our issues.

2989
02:44:53,760 --> 02:44:58,040
Speaker 1: But also if you can, Tomorrow night at seventy pm

2990
02:44:58,160 --> 02:45:01,600
Speaker 1: Eastern seven time, I'm doing a three workstops class.

2991
02:45:02,520 --> 02:45:07,920
Speaker 5: I'm going to talk of diseases right and what we

2992
02:45:08,040 --> 02:45:13,520
Speaker 5: could use to help balance, harmonize, or heal from many diseases.

2993
02:45:13,640 --> 02:45:15,400
Speaker 5: You know, That's all I'm going to talk about tomorrow night.

2994
02:45:15,480 --> 02:45:17,480
Speaker 5: Is I haven't done this before.

2995
02:45:18,000 --> 02:45:24,680
Speaker 1: Because okay, we can hang up online too, a Buddha

2996
02:45:25,600 --> 02:45:28,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo Soldiers through twenty five minutes away from the top Day.

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02:45:29,080 --> 02:45:32,000
Speaker 1: Derek is John Us. Derek is calling from Colorado, the

2998
02:45:32,080 --> 02:45:34,800
Speaker 1: Mountain State, the A's online three Grand Rising. Derek, You're

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Speaker 1: on with doctor b.

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Speaker 5: Grand Raising.

3001
02:45:38,040 --> 02:45:40,640
Speaker 24: I'm going to answer a question I know several uh,

3002
02:45:41,400 --> 02:45:44,480
Speaker 24: they have several black men dying of the prostate cancer.

3003
02:45:44,600 --> 02:45:46,080
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, my body died of it.

3004
02:45:47,040 --> 02:45:49,440
Speaker 24: And it seems like is there anything they could be

3005
02:45:49,560 --> 02:45:52,320
Speaker 24: done as far as your health there? Is it a

3006
02:45:52,600 --> 02:45:56,000
Speaker 24: predestined or is there something black men are getting in

3007
02:45:56,160 --> 02:45:57,920
Speaker 24: more than other man.

3008
02:45:57,959 --> 02:45:58,560
Speaker 5: Or something like that.

3009
02:45:59,560 --> 02:46:01,720
Speaker 24: And also that they're finding a lot of people are

3010
02:46:01,720 --> 02:46:06,560
Speaker 24: getting cancer too, Is that parasites or one of the

3011
02:46:06,640 --> 02:46:11,400
Speaker 24: questions could we be eating going less meat and more

3012
02:46:11,680 --> 02:46:13,200
Speaker 24: veggies in our diet.

3013
02:46:16,040 --> 02:46:19,960
Speaker 5: Well, number one is cancer is a very complex thing

3014
02:46:20,920 --> 02:46:23,959
Speaker 5: and there's no simple solution for cancer because it's coming

3015
02:46:24,000 --> 02:46:27,160
Speaker 5: from so many different things that we have in our environment.

3016
02:46:27,879 --> 02:46:29,760
Speaker 5: And one thing we have in our environment is the

3017
02:46:29,879 --> 02:46:32,640
Speaker 5: fear of it. We feel like we're probably gonna catch it.

3018
02:46:32,760 --> 02:46:36,360
Speaker 5: So mentally, our immune system opens up and begins to

3019
02:46:36,720 --> 02:46:40,560
Speaker 5: you know, you know, not protect us from things that

3020
02:46:40,720 --> 02:46:45,160
Speaker 5: could be causing cancer. You mentioned meat. It's not that

3021
02:46:45,640 --> 02:46:55,120
Speaker 5: meat is bad. It's domesticated, processed, programmed flesh. If you

3022
02:46:55,280 --> 02:46:58,840
Speaker 5: could find a natural animal, let's say it's a bison

3023
02:46:59,480 --> 02:47:02,840
Speaker 5: or something like that, you might be doing good because

3024
02:47:03,200 --> 02:47:05,920
Speaker 5: it's a natural animal. It's not they don't put all

3025
02:47:05,920 --> 02:47:08,680
Speaker 5: these hormones in chemicals because a lot of these hormones, right,

3026
02:47:09,160 --> 02:47:14,000
Speaker 5: if you're putting hormones in foods, hormones are usually growing hormones,

3027
02:47:14,000 --> 02:47:18,520
Speaker 5: which are estrogens or stol. If you're pumping that into

3028
02:47:18,600 --> 02:47:22,480
Speaker 5: the animals, too much estrogen is what causes a lot

3029
02:47:22,520 --> 02:47:28,920
Speaker 5: of the diseases like prostate uterine fibroids, breast cancer. A

3030
02:47:29,000 --> 02:47:32,320
Speaker 5: lot of these are caused by what we call estrogen dominant.

3031
02:47:32,520 --> 02:47:35,720
Speaker 5: Too much estrogen in the body. Well, that's what a

3032
02:47:35,800 --> 02:47:38,840
Speaker 5: lot of the domesticated animals have because they pump them

3033
02:47:38,920 --> 02:47:40,640
Speaker 5: up with that to make them grow fast and to

3034
02:47:40,680 --> 02:47:44,440
Speaker 5: make them big and plumping back. We're eating it, so

3035
02:47:44,560 --> 02:47:47,720
Speaker 5: we're not just catching these diseases, we're eating it. And

3036
02:47:47,840 --> 02:47:52,279
Speaker 5: then also the exercises. There's certain exercises that can actually

3037
02:47:52,920 --> 02:47:54,840
Speaker 5: see The prostate sits at the bottom of the body,

3038
02:47:55,280 --> 02:47:58,280
Speaker 5: and people basically age from the bottom up. If you

3039
02:47:58,320 --> 02:48:00,760
Speaker 5: look at aging, usually it starts with you know, you

3040
02:48:00,840 --> 02:48:03,320
Speaker 5: can't walk like you're used to. You need a walker,

3041
02:48:03,760 --> 02:48:06,120
Speaker 5: or there's problems in the legs, or you break your bones,

3042
02:48:06,160 --> 02:48:09,000
Speaker 5: or you hip. We ate from the bottom up, and

3043
02:48:09,120 --> 02:48:12,200
Speaker 5: the prostate is the is the major organ that sits

3044
02:48:12,320 --> 02:48:16,760
Speaker 5: at the lowest point in the internal body that's gonna

3045
02:48:16,760 --> 02:48:19,360
Speaker 5: pick up a lot of toxins based on food. What

3046
02:48:19,520 --> 02:48:23,680
Speaker 5: we're how we're eating, what chemical involved are we using?

3047
02:48:23,760 --> 02:48:27,400
Speaker 5: Testline plants? Pans? You know, how much iron do we have?

3048
02:48:27,520 --> 02:48:30,280
Speaker 5: Most people don't have enough iron to fight on any disease.

3049
02:48:30,320 --> 02:48:33,320
Speaker 5: If you don't have enough iron, you don't have any defenses.

3050
02:48:34,320 --> 02:48:37,160
Speaker 5: Iron and it's got to be nascent natural iron from

3051
02:48:37,240 --> 02:48:41,280
Speaker 5: plants like sassprilla, from things like you know, it's natural beats.

3052
02:48:41,320 --> 02:48:44,080
Speaker 5: There's some unnatural beats tea, but things that have a

3053
02:48:44,120 --> 02:48:49,400
Speaker 5: lot of iron, like dandelion. That iron is what strengthens

3054
02:48:49,440 --> 02:48:52,880
Speaker 5: the blood. If your blood is not strong, then nothing

3055
02:48:53,000 --> 02:48:56,280
Speaker 5: is gonna work. So the body is always attempting to

3056
02:48:56,360 --> 02:48:58,520
Speaker 5: fix itself. And as Dick Gregory would always tell me,

3057
02:48:58,600 --> 02:49:02,840
Speaker 5: he says, well, disease like cancer are teachers. Because look

3058
02:49:02,840 --> 02:49:06,720
Speaker 5: at think Gregory when he has lymphoma, a lymphoma. That's

3059
02:49:06,800 --> 02:49:08,800
Speaker 5: when I met him and he asked me and a

3060
02:49:08,840 --> 02:49:11,520
Speaker 5: bunch of other doctors, you know, to get together to

3061
02:49:11,680 --> 02:49:15,199
Speaker 5: work on helping him heal from lymphoma which was supposed

3062
02:49:15,200 --> 02:49:17,000
Speaker 5: to take him out in three months. Well guess what,

3063
02:49:17,879 --> 02:49:19,840
Speaker 5: not only did he live more than three months, he

3064
02:49:19,959 --> 02:49:23,080
Speaker 5: lived many, many, many years and the lymphoma was gone.

3065
02:49:23,160 --> 02:49:25,200
Speaker 5: What did he do? He changed everything? He changed his

3066
02:49:25,280 --> 02:49:30,720
Speaker 5: mindset and he began to use everything available to change

3067
02:49:30,760 --> 02:49:36,519
Speaker 5: the frequency of his body. So it's about, you know, parasites.

3068
02:49:37,080 --> 02:49:41,400
Speaker 5: Most cancers are parasites. They're toxing from food, toxing from

3069
02:49:41,440 --> 02:49:46,640
Speaker 5: the environment, chemicals in our air, it's plastic in the body,

3070
02:49:46,840 --> 02:49:51,560
Speaker 5: it's fungus, and it's bacteria, and the body can't deal

3071
02:49:51,640 --> 02:49:54,720
Speaker 5: with it. It's dealing with this every single day because it's.

3072
02:49:54,959 --> 02:49:57,000
Speaker 11: You're eating it, and your food is eating you, and

3073
02:49:57,080 --> 02:49:57,560
Speaker 11: you don't.

3074
02:49:57,360 --> 02:49:59,360
Speaker 5: Have enough energy based on what we're eating. At the

3075
02:49:59,440 --> 02:50:02,000
Speaker 5: end of the day, fight off anything because the body

3076
02:50:02,080 --> 02:50:06,080
Speaker 5: is trying to digest this non digestible food. So I'm

3077
02:50:06,120 --> 02:50:09,080
Speaker 5: not saying don't eat meat. I'm saying that you need

3078
02:50:09,160 --> 02:50:13,320
Speaker 5: to find a natural meat of totally natural flesh if

3079
02:50:13,320 --> 02:50:15,680
Speaker 5: you're gonna go that way. And even herbs, a lot

3080
02:50:15,720 --> 02:50:19,160
Speaker 5: of your herbs today are processed. It's just not buying

3081
02:50:19,240 --> 02:50:21,959
Speaker 5: herbs and this herb fixes that doctor be what herb

3082
02:50:22,040 --> 02:50:24,680
Speaker 5: does this. That herb might do it if it grew

3083
02:50:24,800 --> 02:50:27,640
Speaker 5: in Morocco. But if you're getting that same herb, like oh,

3084
02:50:27,720 --> 02:50:30,840
Speaker 5: let's say olive leaf that you're getting from Oregon or Idaho,

3085
02:50:31,440 --> 02:50:33,880
Speaker 5: it's not the same olive that grew in Morocco in

3086
02:50:33,959 --> 02:50:38,200
Speaker 5: a very arid, hot condition. So even all herbs are

3087
02:50:38,240 --> 02:50:42,200
Speaker 5: not the same. Herbs are not gonna fix everything. What

3088
02:50:42,360 --> 02:50:43,880
Speaker 5: the body really needs is minerals.

3089
02:50:43,920 --> 02:50:44,320
Speaker 3: It needs a.

3090
02:50:44,440 --> 02:50:48,039
Speaker 11: Balance, It needs a certain mindset, you know.

3091
02:50:48,360 --> 02:50:50,640
Speaker 5: So we got to change that. Also when we're talking

3092
02:50:50,640 --> 02:50:51,520
Speaker 5: about major disease.

3093
02:50:52,400 --> 02:50:54,520
Speaker 1: All right, thirty minutes at the top, they have family.

3094
02:50:54,560 --> 02:50:57,320
Speaker 1: I guess who's doctor beat Doctor Base a metaphysician. He's

3095
02:50:57,400 --> 02:50:59,520
Speaker 1: also a master Herbert Less. You got a question or

3096
02:50:59,520 --> 02:51:02,000
Speaker 1: a health chare, reach out to us at eight hundred

3097
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Speaker 1: and four five zero seventy eight seventy six, line four

3098
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Speaker 1: Blumte Hope. I'm national and correctly calling from Baltimore, Grand Rising,

3099
02:51:11,320 --> 02:51:14,360
Speaker 1: Grand Rising Call. My name is Balanta from Baltimore.

3100
02:51:14,400 --> 02:51:15,800
Speaker 5: Thank you very much for taking this call.

3101
02:51:16,400 --> 02:51:16,520
Speaker 7: UH.

3102
02:51:16,720 --> 02:51:20,039
Speaker 5: I have been fact checking the doctor as he's been speaking,

3103
02:51:20,640 --> 02:51:26,600
Speaker 5: and amazingly, AI is confirming the use of toxoplasma as

3104
02:51:26,640 --> 02:51:33,160
Speaker 5: a possible behavioral behavioral influence. It also suggests some very

3105
02:51:33,280 --> 02:51:39,000
Speaker 5: complicated UH drugs to to get rid of it. A

3106
02:51:39,160 --> 02:51:45,400
Speaker 5: four to six Greek kind of regimen primatamine selfa disease

3107
02:51:46,040 --> 02:51:49,600
Speaker 5: luca vern four to six weeks is there something doctor,

3108
02:51:49,959 --> 02:51:53,400
Speaker 5: that is quicker than what what what what they're recommending.

3109
02:51:53,879 --> 02:51:56,119
Speaker 5: And because it also speaks about how it could remain

3110
02:51:56,200 --> 02:51:59,200
Speaker 5: dormant and eventually die. But if we're eating more of it,

3111
02:51:59,320 --> 02:52:04,840
Speaker 5: we're just flinishing it. I'm very much concerned.

3112
02:52:04,440 --> 02:52:08,080
Speaker 25: Now having heard and verified for what you're saying. What

3113
02:52:08,200 --> 02:52:15,439
Speaker 25: you're saying, first of all, there to deal with toxoplasma.

3114
02:52:16,200 --> 02:52:19,119
Speaker 5: It takes anywhere from twenty eight days to three months

3115
02:52:20,280 --> 02:52:24,000
Speaker 5: to totally deal with opula. You may never actually get

3116
02:52:24,120 --> 02:52:27,280
Speaker 5: rid of it, but you could cut down. You could

3117
02:52:27,320 --> 02:52:30,160
Speaker 5: turn it down. Excuse me, you can turn it down

3118
02:52:30,240 --> 02:52:33,680
Speaker 5: so it can't communicate, so it can't then frequency, so

3119
02:52:33,800 --> 02:52:38,320
Speaker 5: it can't control you. And yet taxoplasma has been dormant

3120
02:52:38,400 --> 02:52:40,000
Speaker 5: in a lot of people for a long time and

3121
02:52:40,080 --> 02:52:42,680
Speaker 5: then it just turns on one day based on you know,

3122
02:52:42,879 --> 02:52:45,600
Speaker 5: trauma in the body, trauma and the mind, or just

3123
02:52:46,000 --> 02:52:48,680
Speaker 5: you know, a confrequency in the body being off because

3124
02:52:48,720 --> 02:52:51,720
Speaker 5: we are frequency dependent people, because we're made of frequency.

3125
02:52:52,400 --> 02:52:54,520
Speaker 5: So what I did when I found out about this

3126
02:52:54,760 --> 02:52:58,080
Speaker 5: was I went deep with doctor Quakuando to create a

3127
02:52:58,360 --> 02:53:02,880
Speaker 5: program natural that would help deal with toxoplasma. So we

3128
02:53:03,000 --> 02:53:06,920
Speaker 5: have this elevated Total Body program, which is not just herbs.

3129
02:53:07,400 --> 02:53:10,840
Speaker 5: It's herbs, it's essential oils, it's flower essences. This sound

3130
02:53:11,080 --> 02:53:15,280
Speaker 5: is frequency. It's what they call m state monoatomic elements

3131
02:53:15,680 --> 02:53:19,320
Speaker 5: that are in this solution. It's no one thing that's going.

3132
02:53:19,200 --> 02:53:21,879
Speaker 11: To do it, because it'll have you picking something kick

3133
02:53:21,920 --> 02:53:22,120
Speaker 11: it out.

3134
02:53:22,120 --> 02:53:24,840
Speaker 5: A deep disease. This parasite will have you go to

3135
02:53:24,959 --> 02:53:29,600
Speaker 5: the herbal shop and pick something that's not going to work,

3136
02:53:29,959 --> 02:53:33,879
Speaker 5: but it will help make it stronger. It's certain herbal substances,

3137
02:53:33,959 --> 02:53:37,720
Speaker 5: certain minerals that actually makes toxoplasma stronger. And because it's

3138
02:53:37,760 --> 02:53:40,760
Speaker 5: in the brain, you have to have substances that can

3139
02:53:40,879 --> 02:53:44,000
Speaker 5: pass the blood brain barrier. Now, I don't know of

3140
02:53:44,080 --> 02:53:48,440
Speaker 5: any chemicals, any pharmaceuticals that actually can work without a

3141
02:53:48,480 --> 02:53:51,560
Speaker 5: lot of side effects. It is a challenging thing to

3142
02:53:51,800 --> 02:53:56,360
Speaker 5: disable this particular parasite. I might just possibly be one

3143
02:53:56,360 --> 02:53:58,600
Speaker 5: of the few people on the planet that came up

3144
02:53:58,680 --> 02:54:03,560
Speaker 5: with a formula that people have reported has been very affected, well,

3145
02:54:04,040 --> 02:54:06,480
Speaker 5: very effective at dealing with this parasite. It's called the

3146
02:54:06,640 --> 02:54:11,600
Speaker 5: Elevated Total Body Program. It's available at Elevation Time dot com.

3147
02:54:12,160 --> 02:54:14,600
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be talking about this tomorrow night. You know,

3148
02:54:14,760 --> 02:54:17,120
Speaker 5: and because a lot of choices that people are making

3149
02:54:17,240 --> 02:54:20,600
Speaker 5: either check this out, Carl. Do you know that there's

3150
02:54:20,720 --> 02:54:24,160
Speaker 5: food that people feel is healthy. It's in a health

3151
02:54:24,160 --> 02:54:29,640
Speaker 5: food al and it's organic that actually is toxic. There's

3152
02:54:29,640 --> 02:54:32,680
Speaker 5: a lot of food that you think is healthy because

3153
02:54:32,720 --> 02:54:34,680
Speaker 5: people told you it was healthy to eat this. I'm

3154
02:54:34,720 --> 02:54:36,520
Speaker 5: not gonna mention some of the names because you know,

3155
02:54:36,520 --> 02:54:37,600
Speaker 5: I don't want to have any trouble.

3156
02:54:38,400 --> 02:54:41,280
Speaker 11: But yes, there's a lot of stuff that you think

3157
02:54:41,400 --> 02:54:41,879
Speaker 11: is healthy.

3158
02:54:42,200 --> 02:54:46,520
Speaker 5: Just even vitamin C. There's vitamin C made from citric

3159
02:54:46,600 --> 02:54:50,640
Speaker 5: acid that's toxic, but somebody told you vitamin C was good.

3160
02:54:51,240 --> 02:54:52,400
Speaker 5: And a lot of times we want to get the

3161
02:54:52,480 --> 02:54:55,240
Speaker 5: cheap one, you know, buy one, get three free. We

3162
02:54:55,360 --> 02:54:57,880
Speaker 5: want that one. Usually that product is going to be

3163
02:54:58,040 --> 02:55:01,240
Speaker 5: not one that has the highest vibration energetically to really

3164
02:55:01,320 --> 02:55:03,120
Speaker 5: help kill the body. That's why a lot of people

3165
02:55:03,160 --> 02:55:05,000
Speaker 5: said I took herbs and it didn't work for what

3166
02:55:05,200 --> 02:55:09,200
Speaker 5: herbs Because for everybody now is an herbalist. Everybody can

3167
02:55:09,280 --> 02:55:11,720
Speaker 5: go buy a herb herbs store. Everybody's got an herb book.

3168
02:55:12,760 --> 02:55:15,080
Speaker 5: A lot of that stuff even in the herb books,

3169
02:55:15,600 --> 02:55:21,119
Speaker 5: Karl is not accurate. It was written by people who

3170
02:55:21,240 --> 02:55:25,080
Speaker 5: had an idea that now you know, over time ideas changed.

3171
02:55:25,120 --> 02:55:27,000
Speaker 5: What we thought was great back in the day may.

3172
02:55:26,959 --> 02:55:27,800
Speaker 6: Not be so great.

3173
02:55:29,160 --> 02:55:29,480
Speaker 7: You see.

3174
02:55:29,720 --> 02:55:32,160
Speaker 5: We thought being you know, totally vegans was the way.

3175
02:55:32,680 --> 02:55:36,840
Speaker 5: Half of this vegan food is trash. What is it?

3176
02:55:37,959 --> 02:55:40,560
Speaker 5: Somebody you know was showing me a burger the other day. This,

3177
02:55:40,680 --> 02:55:45,360
Speaker 5: this is this vegan burger. It had fifteen ingredients and

3178
02:55:45,520 --> 02:55:47,480
Speaker 5: not one of them was natural and they were all

3179
02:55:47,760 --> 02:55:52,200
Speaker 5: organically modified. Is that the right word, organically manified? I

3180
02:55:52,280 --> 02:55:55,680
Speaker 5: just made that organically modified. You know. They were all

3181
02:55:55,840 --> 02:56:00,760
Speaker 5: GMOs genetically modified organisms. Everything in this quote nquote Beggy burger,

3182
02:56:01,280 --> 02:56:02,720
Speaker 5: and it's supposed to be notaw you wants to go

3183
02:56:02,840 --> 02:56:06,760
Speaker 5: eat the actual animal, you'll be better off. So we're

3184
02:56:06,840 --> 02:56:11,000
Speaker 5: our mindsets of being controlled to some level, we're not

3185
02:56:11,160 --> 02:56:14,360
Speaker 5: able to break free. And one of those reasons is toxoplasma.

3186
02:56:14,560 --> 02:56:16,600
Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep talking about it. I got a whole

3187
02:56:16,680 --> 02:56:21,080
Speaker 5: section of the book about toxoplasma. But the reason why

3188
02:56:21,200 --> 02:56:24,760
Speaker 5: we're able to choose so easily things to be debil

3189
02:56:24,800 --> 02:56:28,800
Speaker 5: fool is because of this thing called a Flexner report. Carl.

3190
02:56:28,879 --> 02:56:30,040
Speaker 11: We have enough time for me to read just a

3191
02:56:30,040 --> 02:56:30,920
Speaker 11: little bit from the book.

3192
02:56:31,360 --> 02:56:34,280
Speaker 1: No, we're coming upon a break and I got a letter,

3193
02:56:34,760 --> 02:56:37,360
Speaker 1: a letter, a note from one of our listeners in London.

3194
02:56:37,440 --> 02:56:39,560
Speaker 1: Paul has a question for you as well, so when

3195
02:56:39,600 --> 02:56:41,119
Speaker 1: we get back we can through that. When we get back,

3196
02:56:41,160 --> 02:56:43,480
Speaker 1: though it's twenty four minutes away from the top of

3197
02:56:43,560 --> 02:56:46,280
Speaker 1: our family, I guess it's Doctor B. Doctor B is

3198
02:56:46,360 --> 02:56:48,800
Speaker 1: a matter physician, a master herbalist. He's written the book.

3199
02:56:49,160 --> 02:56:51,280
Speaker 1: That book is referring to What's Eating You. That's the

3200
02:56:51,360 --> 02:56:53,439
Speaker 1: time of the book. You want to join this conversation,

3201
02:56:53,600 --> 02:56:55,960
Speaker 1: you can reach out to us on number is really simple.

3202
02:56:56,040 --> 02:56:59,279
Speaker 1: It's worldwide as well. It's total free. It's eight hundred

3203
02:56:59,360 --> 02:57:02,120
Speaker 1: four or five ZEO seventy eight seventy six, and we

3204
02:57:02,240 --> 02:57:07,840
Speaker 1: takeing phone calls when we get back. Thank grand Rising family,

3205
02:57:08,160 --> 02:57:10,680
Speaker 1: thanks for staying with us on this Wednesday morning, hump Day.

3206
02:57:10,720 --> 02:57:12,720
Speaker 1: We're halfway through the work week with our guest at

3207
02:57:12,879 --> 02:57:16,160
Speaker 1: Dr B. Doctor B is a metaphysician and master herbalist.

3208
02:57:16,160 --> 02:57:18,000
Speaker 1: He's got a new book out, it's called What's Eating You.

3209
02:57:18,080 --> 02:57:20,120
Speaker 1: Will get him to give us a chance to a

3210
02:57:20,320 --> 02:57:23,080
Speaker 1: portion that book before he leaves. But before the let

3211
02:57:23,120 --> 02:57:25,000
Speaker 1: me just remind you, Carl tomorrow we couldn tinue our

3212
02:57:25,040 --> 02:57:27,640
Speaker 1: salute to the one hundredth anniversary of Black History Month

3213
02:57:27,760 --> 02:57:30,280
Speaker 1: or African Heritage Month. Some people have been now calling

3214
02:57:30,320 --> 02:57:33,400
Speaker 1: it through the eyes of a Grill and Quanza creator

3215
02:57:33,440 --> 02:57:36,720
Speaker 1: doctor Milana Kurenga, also a music historian. Bill Carpenter will

3216
02:57:36,840 --> 02:57:38,480
Speaker 1: be with us to tell us what you know the

3217
02:57:38,560 --> 02:57:41,240
Speaker 1: role of music played in our black history. So if

3218
02:57:41,280 --> 02:57:42,880
Speaker 1: you are in Baltimore, make sure we keep you a

3219
02:57:42,959 --> 02:57:45,320
Speaker 1: radio lock tin tight on ten ten WLB. Or if

3220
02:57:45,360 --> 02:57:48,840
Speaker 1: you're in the DMV area Washington Metropolitan here on fourteen

3221
02:57:48,920 --> 02:57:51,960
Speaker 1: fifteen WOL. All right, doctor B. You know got listeners

3222
02:57:51,959 --> 02:57:54,960
Speaker 1: all over and Paul's listeners from London and he seventies

3223
02:57:54,959 --> 02:57:57,560
Speaker 1: to know, he says, please ask doctor B to articulate

3224
02:57:57,640 --> 02:58:00,160
Speaker 1: on how living a lie you gotta follow this, doctor be,

3225
02:58:00,640 --> 02:58:03,600
Speaker 1: Please ask doctor B to articulate on how living a lie,

3226
02:58:03,840 --> 02:58:06,959
Speaker 1: or telling yourself lies about yourself, about your life, about

3227
02:58:07,000 --> 02:58:10,880
Speaker 1: your faith, or be indoctrinated in lies affects your health.

3228
02:58:11,440 --> 02:58:13,440
Speaker 1: That is, if he feels it does he may not

3229
02:58:14,120 --> 02:58:16,600
Speaker 1: in this case a lie being the opposite of truth.

3230
02:58:16,800 --> 02:58:20,040
Speaker 1: Does he think one lying to themselves is conducive to

3231
02:58:20,120 --> 02:58:23,160
Speaker 1: good health? Or maybe he feels it has no effects.

3232
02:58:23,320 --> 02:58:25,640
Speaker 1: That's coming from Paul in London.

3233
02:58:27,800 --> 02:58:34,119
Speaker 5: Most people are living a lie. They've been told things,

3234
02:58:34,120 --> 02:58:38,360
Speaker 5: they've been given references about who they are, about their

3235
02:58:38,600 --> 02:58:47,440
Speaker 5: history that's not correct. That creates illness. They have the

3236
02:58:47,520 --> 02:58:52,360
Speaker 5: thing called imposter syndrome, where you're living this life and

3237
02:58:52,480 --> 02:58:54,600
Speaker 5: you're not being the best person you could be. You're

3238
02:58:54,640 --> 02:58:56,520
Speaker 5: not being as creative you could be. You're not even

3239
02:58:56,560 --> 02:58:59,440
Speaker 5: moving out on the ideas that you innately have the

3240
02:58:59,600 --> 02:59:02,800
Speaker 5: genius in you right that you don't move on those

3241
02:59:02,959 --> 02:59:07,039
Speaker 5: because you got this mindset about how it's gonna affect

3242
02:59:07,120 --> 02:59:09,640
Speaker 5: other people and who you think you are, who is

3243
02:59:09,800 --> 02:59:13,280
Speaker 5: actually usually less than who you really are. Because we're

3244
02:59:13,320 --> 02:59:16,800
Speaker 5: being reduced. It's like crowd control. Get all the people

3245
02:59:16,920 --> 02:59:20,640
Speaker 5: to believe in this story, and if everybody repeats it

3246
02:59:20,720 --> 02:59:23,280
Speaker 5: over and over, it seems like the truth. Most of

3247
02:59:23,320 --> 02:59:25,720
Speaker 5: it is not true. Even the way the Earth looks,

3248
02:59:26,879 --> 02:59:30,560
Speaker 5: the size of the continents, the colors of the galaxy,

3249
02:59:31,240 --> 02:59:35,560
Speaker 5: what disease is, what a virus is, All of that

3250
02:59:36,240 --> 02:59:37,560
Speaker 5: was created.

3251
02:59:37,120 --> 02:59:40,440
Speaker 11: By the people who control the corral.

3252
02:59:40,560 --> 02:59:41,320
Speaker 5: They control.

3253
02:59:42,240 --> 02:59:45,040
Speaker 11: It's like sheep that's why they call it sheeple, and

3254
02:59:45,200 --> 02:59:46,439
Speaker 11: only the black sheep.

3255
02:59:46,360 --> 02:59:48,200
Speaker 5: Is going to have enough courage to jump over the

3256
02:59:48,280 --> 02:59:51,400
Speaker 5: fence and go see the real world. Most people may

3257
02:59:51,480 --> 02:59:54,280
Speaker 5: not do that because they're afraid. They're afraid of what

3258
02:59:54,320 --> 02:59:57,920
Speaker 5: their friends, their family, their religion is gonna say. We're

3259
02:59:57,959 --> 03:00:01,400
Speaker 5: caught in these systems which are are based on keeping

3260
03:00:01,520 --> 03:00:04,199
Speaker 5: people in mental, physical, and spiritual slavery.

3261
03:00:07,520 --> 03:00:09,760
Speaker 1: All right, you wanted to mention a part of the book,

3262
03:00:09,800 --> 03:00:10,879
Speaker 1: and can you want to share.

3263
03:00:10,720 --> 03:00:11,080
Speaker 12: That with us?

3264
03:00:12,440 --> 03:00:16,760
Speaker 5: So this is chapter nine and it's about the medical system.

3265
03:00:17,480 --> 03:00:21,920
Speaker 5: In the early nineteen hundreds, the Carnegie Foundation commentioned Abraham

3266
03:00:22,080 --> 03:00:25,879
Speaker 5: Flexner to create a report about medical schools and hospitals.

3267
03:00:26,680 --> 03:00:29,440
Speaker 5: This was cloaked as a concern for the quality of

3268
03:00:29,600 --> 03:00:33,640
Speaker 5: healthcare education in the USA. The story goes that the

3269
03:00:33,800 --> 03:00:39,080
Speaker 5: Rockefeller and Cargile drug companies use this report to fund

3270
03:00:39,240 --> 03:00:45,040
Speaker 5: only those medical businesses who exclusively prescribed pharmaceutical drug. Guess

3271
03:00:45,080 --> 03:00:47,920
Speaker 5: whose drug they are? And I'm gonna go to another

3272
03:00:47,920 --> 03:00:51,360
Speaker 5: piece here, according to history, a few greedy parasites, which

3273
03:00:51,400 --> 03:00:58,560
Speaker 5: of these people virtually eliminated all independent medical schools, druglist doctors, hospitals.

3274
03:00:58,360 --> 03:01:01,959
Speaker 11: Clinics and healing houses, and natural health centers.

3275
03:01:02,640 --> 03:01:05,880
Speaker 5: They lobbied, lied, and made up laws and statistics that

3276
03:01:06,120 --> 03:01:09,640
Speaker 5: made it impossible for those who were not white and

3277
03:01:09,920 --> 03:01:13,760
Speaker 5: male to even go to medical school. The report went

3278
03:01:13,840 --> 03:01:17,360
Speaker 5: on went so far to suggest that black people should

3279
03:01:17,480 --> 03:01:20,520
Speaker 5: only learn to work in the hygiene department at hospitals

3280
03:01:20,920 --> 03:01:25,040
Speaker 5: because they were unclean and had more germs and parasites

3281
03:01:25,120 --> 03:01:29,880
Speaker 5: than white people. Because of racism and sexism, the flex

3282
03:01:30,000 --> 03:01:35,760
Speaker 5: Nurse sham blocked up to fifty thousand or more black

3283
03:01:35,879 --> 03:01:39,880
Speaker 5: potential doctors and women from practicing medicine. When a black

3284
03:01:40,000 --> 03:01:43,080
Speaker 5: health community is being served by mostly doctors and nurses

3285
03:01:43,120 --> 03:01:45,879
Speaker 5: who going to look like them, the community exhibits more

3286
03:01:45,959 --> 03:01:49,000
Speaker 5: stress as a whole because of a history of mistrust

3287
03:01:49,120 --> 03:01:54,160
Speaker 5: and mistreatment. Black people live longer in areas where more doctors,

3288
03:01:54,200 --> 03:01:58,320
Speaker 5: where there's more doctors that look like them. Now, do

3289
03:01:58,480 --> 03:02:02,480
Speaker 5: you know, Carl Flexing report ended up being how they

3290
03:02:02,600 --> 03:02:08,840
Speaker 5: taught school, even just grade school, college, based on telling

3291
03:02:08,920 --> 03:02:11,040
Speaker 5: you that they're telling you the truth. We're giving you.

3292
03:02:11,120 --> 03:02:12,880
Speaker 5: We're giving you the truth about who you are. We

3293
03:02:13,000 --> 03:02:14,840
Speaker 5: know more about your health than your body, and your

3294
03:02:14,879 --> 03:02:20,320
Speaker 5: history than you. They are all herbalists, all natural people.

3295
03:02:21,800 --> 03:02:25,160
Speaker 5: They basically they were burning people alive. They killed people

3296
03:02:26,000 --> 03:02:29,520
Speaker 5: because they were doing natural things to help folks that worked,

3297
03:02:29,840 --> 03:02:33,920
Speaker 5: that was based on nutrition, based on maintenance. The only

3298
03:02:34,240 --> 03:02:37,440
Speaker 5: people they let even exist with people that were going

3299
03:02:37,520 --> 03:02:40,880
Speaker 5: to sell nothing but pharmaceuticals. And I went to the

3300
03:02:40,959 --> 03:02:42,880
Speaker 5: doctor the other day because I go get a blood

3301
03:02:42,879 --> 03:02:44,160
Speaker 5: test every once in a while, just to see how

3302
03:02:44,160 --> 03:02:47,440
Speaker 5: everything is working. And they looked at my blood and

3303
03:02:47,520 --> 03:02:53,600
Speaker 5: the lady came back, she says, this is unbelievably good.

3304
03:02:54,240 --> 03:02:55,959
Speaker 5: I said, what do you mean, it's unbelievably She says,

3305
03:02:56,800 --> 03:03:01,360
Speaker 5: your blood. Everything is perfect in your blood. You have nothing,

3306
03:03:01,560 --> 03:03:03,200
Speaker 5: she says, and at your age, you should be on.

3307
03:03:03,560 --> 03:03:05,680
Speaker 5: She started mentioning all the medicines that I might need

3308
03:03:05,760 --> 03:03:07,120
Speaker 5: to be on. And look that I take. I'm not

3309
03:03:07,320 --> 03:03:11,520
Speaker 5: not on any medicine, no pharmaceuticals. That's my choice. She

3310
03:03:11,720 --> 03:03:15,680
Speaker 5: was like, well, I'm confused. She was confused that a

3311
03:03:15,879 --> 03:03:20,760
Speaker 5: healthy black man walked in and had perfect blood. The

3312
03:03:20,920 --> 03:03:21,959
Speaker 5: lady looked at it.

3313
03:03:22,000 --> 03:03:23,960
Speaker 11: As if she had never seen anything like this.

3314
03:03:24,680 --> 03:03:27,600
Speaker 5: How could you be in your sixties and have this

3315
03:03:27,720 --> 03:03:28,320
Speaker 5: kind of blood?

3316
03:03:29,320 --> 03:03:30,840
Speaker 11: And then check out what she did next.

3317
03:03:30,680 --> 03:03:34,520
Speaker 5: Say to go Carl. She started prescribing some drugs.

3318
03:03:35,720 --> 03:03:38,840
Speaker 11: She started prescribing and suggesting some drugs.

3319
03:03:39,160 --> 03:03:41,959
Speaker 5: So that I won't get sick later. She just said

3320
03:03:42,000 --> 03:03:46,400
Speaker 5: I was healthy sixty something years. Now, you're gonna prescribe

3321
03:03:46,440 --> 03:03:50,119
Speaker 5: because she's got to prescribe because based on this flashing report,

3322
03:03:50,680 --> 03:03:54,640
Speaker 5: doctors are controlled by the pharmaceutical companies, which are not

3323
03:03:54,959 --> 03:03:58,120
Speaker 5: They don't make drugs. Their marketing companies. They come up

3324
03:03:58,160 --> 03:04:03,000
Speaker 5: with drugs right fix something or to create an idea

3325
03:04:03,120 --> 03:04:05,840
Speaker 5: that they can fix something or heal something that may

3326
03:04:05,920 --> 03:04:09,960
Speaker 5: not even exist. I'm not saying that drugs are not

3327
03:04:10,080 --> 03:04:13,200
Speaker 5: bad because in an emergency, Yet modern medicine is really

3328
03:04:13,200 --> 03:04:15,920
Speaker 5: good in an emergency. Don't call me for like, you know,

3329
03:04:16,920 --> 03:04:19,560
Speaker 5: you need some cayenne pepper or whatever, or some dandelion.

3330
03:04:19,800 --> 03:04:21,560
Speaker 5: You're in the ambulance. No, do what they tell you

3331
03:04:21,680 --> 03:04:23,800
Speaker 5: to do in in the emergency. But when it comes

3332
03:04:23,840 --> 03:04:25,359
Speaker 5: to maintaining your health.

3333
03:04:25,879 --> 03:04:28,720
Speaker 11: The first thing you got to do is detoxify.

3334
03:04:28,040 --> 03:04:32,840
Speaker 5: Yourself every time the seasons change, because your body goes

3335
03:04:32,879 --> 03:04:36,720
Speaker 5: through changes, this metabolic process is always going to be toxics,

3336
03:04:36,720 --> 03:04:39,480
Speaker 5: even if you live in a perfect society. So you

3337
03:04:39,560 --> 03:04:42,160
Speaker 5: got to get rid of the things that are gonna

3338
03:04:42,200 --> 03:04:46,960
Speaker 5: weigh your system down, especially parasites. And there's thousands and

3339
03:04:47,080 --> 03:04:49,000
Speaker 5: thousands of different type of parasites, and a lot of

3340
03:04:49,080 --> 03:04:51,600
Speaker 5: them don't live in the colon, So your average colon

3341
03:04:51,680 --> 03:04:54,320
Speaker 5: cleansed parasite is not gonna work to these things on

3342
03:04:54,480 --> 03:04:58,040
Speaker 5: these things called superbugs, superbugs, or what they all call

3343
03:04:58,240 --> 03:05:01,520
Speaker 5: what they used to call biological war They drop stuff

3344
03:05:01,879 --> 03:05:05,840
Speaker 5: on countries, on neighborhoods to try to control the people

3345
03:05:06,040 --> 03:05:10,040
Speaker 5: or to create disease. This biological warfare, it's in the air,

3346
03:05:10,440 --> 03:05:14,560
Speaker 5: it's in our environment. When it rained, you're getting rain

3347
03:05:14,640 --> 03:05:16,360
Speaker 5: that may come from a place where they drop the

3348
03:05:16,560 --> 03:05:21,080
Speaker 5: agent orange. So you have got to constantly be changing

3349
03:05:21,200 --> 03:05:24,119
Speaker 5: the way we eat. Focus in your mind on detox

3350
03:05:24,760 --> 03:05:27,800
Speaker 5: detoxification and cleansing. So what I said was a lot

3351
03:05:27,800 --> 03:05:29,520
Speaker 5: of people may not hear me. They may hear my

3352
03:05:29,600 --> 03:05:31,520
Speaker 5: voice and say, well, he's kind of wild, which I am.

3353
03:05:31,640 --> 03:05:33,560
Speaker 5: You know, I may not deliver in the way that

3354
03:05:34,240 --> 03:05:38,320
Speaker 5: is agreeable to some people. Put us know a book,

3355
03:05:38,959 --> 03:05:41,800
Speaker 5: So the book What's Eating You? It's the first book

3356
03:05:41,840 --> 03:05:44,720
Speaker 5: of its kind. And I usually do things that nobody

3357
03:05:44,720 --> 03:05:47,440
Speaker 5: else does. Even my herbal products, nobody had anything like them,

3358
03:05:47,879 --> 03:05:51,400
Speaker 5: so I created them. But the book is a piece

3359
03:05:52,200 --> 03:05:58,000
Speaker 5: of documentation that once you read it. First of all,

3360
03:05:58,080 --> 03:06:02,160
Speaker 5: it's partly a drama, it's a documentary.

3361
03:06:02,440 --> 03:06:05,120
Speaker 11: But also it's a resource guide and I.

3362
03:06:05,160 --> 03:06:07,720
Speaker 5: Give you exercises and things that you can do to

3363
03:06:07,879 --> 03:06:11,160
Speaker 5: actually change your health. So this book needs to be

3364
03:06:11,320 --> 03:06:15,480
Speaker 5: in everybody's library. And if you'd like the audio version,

3365
03:06:15,520 --> 03:06:18,160
Speaker 5: the audio version will be ready tomorrow. And also there's

3366
03:06:18,200 --> 03:06:20,720
Speaker 5: a soundtrack if you want to get the soundtrack that

3367
03:06:20,800 --> 03:06:25,080
Speaker 5: goes with the book. That changes your frequency energetically. The

3368
03:06:25,320 --> 03:06:26,360
Speaker 5: medicine is in.

3369
03:06:26,440 --> 03:06:30,280
Speaker 1: The words, yeah, yeah, I'm gona know for a second

3370
03:06:30,320 --> 03:06:33,600
Speaker 1: help because we raised the clock. But do you mention

3371
03:06:33,920 --> 03:06:36,360
Speaker 1: your relationship with Dick Gregory in the book, doctor B.

3372
03:06:37,520 --> 03:06:39,720
Speaker 5: Yes, because Dick Gregory was going to originally write the

3373
03:06:39,760 --> 03:06:43,240
Speaker 5: forward to the book. Dick Gregory really pushed me on

3374
03:06:43,360 --> 03:06:47,080
Speaker 5: this book. In fact, the title was based on something

3375
03:06:47,160 --> 03:06:48,960
Speaker 5: Dick Gregory said to me. In fact, there was at

3376
03:06:48,959 --> 03:06:51,840
Speaker 5: an event that you were having down in Florida, and

3377
03:06:52,480 --> 03:06:54,000
Speaker 5: there was many years ago when you know, you had

3378
03:06:54,040 --> 03:06:55,920
Speaker 5: all of us come and he said, well, doctor B,

3379
03:06:56,040 --> 03:06:58,000
Speaker 5: you got to write a book. This stuff that you

3380
03:06:58,080 --> 03:06:59,920
Speaker 5: got in your head, man, you got to write a book.

3381
03:07:00,400 --> 03:07:04,440
Speaker 5: She said, otherwise this information that you have is going

3382
03:07:04,480 --> 03:07:07,480
Speaker 5: to eat you alive. She says, if you don't do

3383
03:07:07,560 --> 03:07:10,640
Speaker 5: what you really came here to do, your own mind

3384
03:07:10,800 --> 03:07:13,560
Speaker 5: is going to eat you alive. That's what he told me.

3385
03:07:13,959 --> 03:07:17,600
Speaker 5: And I was like, my information that I'm not expressing

3386
03:07:18,720 --> 03:07:20,400
Speaker 5: is going to eat me alive. And that's why I

3387
03:07:20,440 --> 03:07:22,600
Speaker 5: came up with the idea what's eating.

3388
03:07:22,400 --> 03:07:25,320
Speaker 11: You know that story?

3389
03:07:25,560 --> 03:07:28,680
Speaker 1: But but tell us about teleomars, because you would. You

3390
03:07:28,760 --> 03:07:31,280
Speaker 1: were the first black person. You were actually the first

3391
03:07:31,320 --> 03:07:34,800
Speaker 1: person I heard was talking about telomars. After you came

3392
03:07:34,840 --> 03:07:36,800
Speaker 1: on and talked about telling me, said, the other folks

3393
03:07:36,840 --> 03:07:38,760
Speaker 1: talked about it. I don't hear any of the other

3394
03:07:39,320 --> 03:07:42,480
Speaker 1: black uh health folks to even talk about telling mares.

3395
03:07:42,640 --> 03:07:45,640
Speaker 1: So explain that for the audience while we have time.

3396
03:07:47,080 --> 03:07:49,680
Speaker 5: Tell Ameres are like these little strings of little intendants

3397
03:07:49,720 --> 03:07:52,320
Speaker 5: that are hanging at the end of your June, and

3398
03:07:52,480 --> 03:07:56,000
Speaker 5: there's a band around them, or a substance around them

3399
03:07:56,080 --> 03:07:59,920
Speaker 5: called the telomere rap and it tells the telomeres together.

3400
03:08:00,080 --> 03:08:03,560
Speaker 5: These telomeres have a lot to do with speaking or

3401
03:08:03,959 --> 03:08:07,160
Speaker 5: sending information from gene to gene or from self to self,

3402
03:08:07,760 --> 03:08:10,400
Speaker 5: but they also have to do with your life, how

3403
03:08:10,480 --> 03:08:14,760
Speaker 5: long you live, how quickly your cells repair themselves through age,

3404
03:08:14,840 --> 03:08:18,840
Speaker 5: through stress, through certain diets, and you know, just from

3405
03:08:18,959 --> 03:08:24,039
Speaker 5: our spiritual knowledge, these things begin to break off. If

3406
03:08:24,080 --> 03:08:27,160
Speaker 5: you're receiving spiritual knowledge that's not really coming from source,

3407
03:08:27,840 --> 03:08:31,600
Speaker 5: your telomeres begin to break off and you age and

3408
03:08:31,720 --> 03:08:35,840
Speaker 5: your body can't repair itself quickly. So telomere length has

3409
03:08:35,920 --> 03:08:37,879
Speaker 5: to do it how long you live and how healthy

3410
03:08:38,000 --> 03:08:41,760
Speaker 5: you are. They're like a little antennas. You have to

3411
03:08:41,920 --> 03:08:45,440
Speaker 5: feed yourself something or give yourself something, or do something

3412
03:08:46,160 --> 03:08:50,200
Speaker 5: that increases the telomere length. So when talking about this

3413
03:08:50,320 --> 03:08:52,480
Speaker 5: with Dick Gregory, because we had the extensive talks about this,

3414
03:08:52,840 --> 03:08:54,440
Speaker 5: he said, man, if you could come up with something

3415
03:08:54,520 --> 03:08:57,520
Speaker 5: that that fixes the telomeres and helps to repair the

3416
03:08:57,600 --> 03:09:01,600
Speaker 5: telomere cap, he says, this will be So he began

3417
03:09:01,720 --> 03:09:04,360
Speaker 5: to work with me. We worked together on creating this

3418
03:09:04,760 --> 03:09:09,039
Speaker 5: this product called a Platinum Life Elixir. This Platinum Life

3419
03:09:09,080 --> 03:09:13,000
Speaker 5: Elixir has these monoatomic elements. It helps to get rid

3420
03:09:13,040 --> 03:09:15,640
Speaker 5: of heavy metals in the body because heavy metals will

3421
03:09:15,640 --> 03:09:19,160
Speaker 5: break off your your telomeres also and to destroy the

3422
03:09:19,879 --> 03:09:24,240
Speaker 5: communication factor between you yourselves. And we came up with

3423
03:09:24,320 --> 03:09:28,080
Speaker 5: this product that is amazing for actually turning up your

3424
03:09:28,120 --> 03:09:30,240
Speaker 5: pineal and your pineal has a lot to do it

3425
03:09:30,360 --> 03:09:34,160
Speaker 5: connecting you directly to source. So, uh, yeah, the telomere

3426
03:09:34,200 --> 03:09:35,440
Speaker 5: thing is deep. We could go on to the we

3427
03:09:35,480 --> 03:09:38,280
Speaker 5: could do a whole show just on telomeres. But that's

3428
03:09:38,320 --> 03:09:40,680
Speaker 5: why we're aging so quickly, and that's why we're going

3429
03:09:40,720 --> 03:09:43,320
Speaker 5: through so much of the drama because we're receiving the

3430
03:09:43,400 --> 03:09:45,600
Speaker 5: soft the wrong messages from the cosmos.

3431
03:09:46,720 --> 03:09:48,520
Speaker 1: Right, And I tell him, is what you call the

3432
03:09:48,600 --> 03:09:51,080
Speaker 1: fountain of youth. If you can figure it out, family,

3433
03:09:51,160 --> 03:09:55,000
Speaker 1: this is what you could have to have a lasting life,

3434
03:09:55,120 --> 03:09:57,520
Speaker 1: or you could live live quite some time, longer than

3435
03:09:57,600 --> 03:09:58,560
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to live.

3436
03:09:58,840 --> 03:10:02,480
Speaker 5: My correction saying that dot be Yeah, we actually can

3437
03:10:02,520 --> 03:10:04,880
Speaker 5: live one hundred and fifty years outside of all the

3438
03:10:04,959 --> 03:10:08,160
Speaker 5: drama and the chemicals and all that. So telomeres help

3439
03:10:08,280 --> 03:10:10,920
Speaker 5: you with the potential of your life force potential. So

3440
03:10:11,000 --> 03:10:12,680
Speaker 5: they do call it the fountain of youth. And if

3441
03:10:12,680 --> 03:10:15,680
Speaker 5: we could repair our telemeres or strengthen our telemeres, will

3442
03:10:15,720 --> 03:10:18,000
Speaker 5: live longer and not just live longer, because you don't

3443
03:10:18,040 --> 03:10:20,760
Speaker 5: want to live longer and be unhealthy, but live longer

3444
03:10:20,840 --> 03:10:23,880
Speaker 5: and be more healthy. The telomeres are the key to that.

3445
03:10:24,680 --> 03:10:26,440
Speaker 5: And there's a couple of big books out. And I

3446
03:10:26,480 --> 03:10:29,359
Speaker 5: talk about telomeres in the book too, highly strengthen your telomeres.

3447
03:10:29,720 --> 03:10:31,680
Speaker 5: But we have that product, you know, Platinum Life, Elix

3448
03:10:31,720 --> 03:10:34,600
Speaker 5: say at Elevation time dot com. Yeah.

3449
03:10:34,640 --> 03:10:36,840
Speaker 1: And in the book, though, does it tell your journeys?

3450
03:10:36,879 --> 03:10:40,000
Speaker 1: He's sort of autobiography in your book, is it? You know,

3451
03:10:40,080 --> 03:10:42,040
Speaker 1: do you tell your journey from being a musician and

3452
03:10:42,160 --> 03:10:46,360
Speaker 1: how you got into being a metaphysician and a master herbalist.

3453
03:10:47,240 --> 03:10:49,640
Speaker 5: Yes, it does. It's not my autobiography, but there's the

3454
03:10:50,160 --> 03:10:52,360
Speaker 5: first chapter. I have to talk about my journey of

3455
03:10:52,440 --> 03:10:55,440
Speaker 5: how I got to this place of studying parasites, how

3456
03:10:55,480 --> 03:10:58,400
Speaker 5: that became my specialty. So I do talk about growing

3457
03:10:58,480 --> 03:11:01,520
Speaker 5: up and I, you know, in Connecticut and some of

3458
03:11:01,560 --> 03:11:03,440
Speaker 5: the things that I saw. And then I also talk

3459
03:11:03,480 --> 03:11:06,440
Speaker 5: about this thing that happened to me in nineteen ninety

3460
03:11:06,520 --> 03:11:09,480
Speaker 5: six in what they now call the Bermuda Triangle that

3461
03:11:09,680 --> 03:11:12,880
Speaker 5: changed everything, and how I met doctor Ando and Dick Gregory.

3462
03:11:13,480 --> 03:11:17,400
Speaker 5: And yeah, it's a whole book. It's like a movie.

3463
03:11:17,800 --> 03:11:19,520
Speaker 5: My sister read it. She said, man, this is like

3464
03:11:19,560 --> 03:11:22,400
Speaker 5: a movie. So, and you know the book. We actually

3465
03:11:22,400 --> 03:11:25,480
Speaker 5: there's a previe league starting last last Saturday. Man these

3466
03:11:25,520 --> 03:11:27,680
Speaker 5: books are moving so fast. People have been waiting for

3467
03:11:27,800 --> 03:11:30,120
Speaker 5: something they could put in their hands that actually is

3468
03:11:30,200 --> 03:11:32,080
Speaker 5: going to give them power and not just talk about

3469
03:11:32,080 --> 03:11:32,720
Speaker 5: the problems.

3470
03:11:33,840 --> 03:11:35,480
Speaker 1: Right, So, how can we get copies of the book,

3471
03:11:35,560 --> 03:11:35,959
Speaker 1: doctor b.

3472
03:11:37,400 --> 03:11:39,240
Speaker 5: Well, the easiest way is to go to elevation time

3473
03:11:39,280 --> 03:11:42,400
Speaker 5: dot com. Elevation time dot com. When you go straight

3474
03:11:42,440 --> 03:11:44,080
Speaker 5: to the page, you're going to see the book and

3475
03:11:44,160 --> 03:11:46,440
Speaker 5: you can click on that, and there's many different options.

3476
03:11:46,520 --> 03:11:50,040
Speaker 5: There's a hardcover, there's a softcover, there's ones. I'm doing

3477
03:11:50,120 --> 03:11:53,320
Speaker 5: signatures or what'll we call energetic imprinting on each book.

3478
03:11:54,080 --> 03:11:56,520
Speaker 5: And as of tomorrow, there's going to be an audiobook

3479
03:11:56,640 --> 03:12:00,279
Speaker 5: version and there's also going to be the music Soundtrackovation

3480
03:12:00,440 --> 03:12:03,480
Speaker 5: time dot Com. And you know, tomorrow night I'm going

3481
03:12:03,520 --> 03:12:06,880
Speaker 5: to be doing a free workshop, you know, talking about

3482
03:12:07,120 --> 03:12:09,440
Speaker 5: you know, health conditions and ways that we can help

3483
03:12:09,520 --> 03:12:14,440
Speaker 5: to heal our body. This Saturday at eleven am, I'm

3484
03:12:14,480 --> 03:12:16,760
Speaker 5: going to do read from the book and talk more

3485
03:12:16,800 --> 03:12:20,720
Speaker 5: about the book. But don't forget. On March the first,

3486
03:12:20,920 --> 03:12:23,520
Speaker 5: here in Atlanta, and this is also on the website

3487
03:12:23,600 --> 03:12:28,040
Speaker 5: elevation time dot com, we're doing Unlocking the Divinity Code,

3488
03:12:28,160 --> 03:12:32,160
Speaker 5: which has to do with telomeres in the mitochondria. You know,

3489
03:12:32,760 --> 03:12:36,600
Speaker 5: this is a huge event with with brother Billy Carson.

3490
03:12:37,240 --> 03:12:39,760
Speaker 5: We did something years ago called Godpower and it was

3491
03:12:39,840 --> 03:12:42,800
Speaker 5: the largest event ever done of its kind, and we're

3492
03:12:42,879 --> 03:12:45,520
Speaker 5: doing that again on March the first here in Atlanta.

3493
03:12:45,600 --> 03:12:46,920
Speaker 5: So if you're in Atlanta, or if you'd like to

3494
03:12:46,959 --> 03:12:49,400
Speaker 5: come to Atlanta, you know that's going to be huge.

3495
03:12:49,440 --> 03:12:52,000
Speaker 5: It's also going to be online. So those are the

3496
03:12:52,040 --> 03:12:54,879
Speaker 5: events that are coming up. Tomorrow night seven point thirty,

3497
03:12:54,959 --> 03:12:59,000
Speaker 5: we're going to talk about healing protocols. Saturday at eleven am,

3498
03:12:59,520 --> 03:13:01,640
Speaker 5: I'm gonna talk more about the book and how the

3499
03:13:01,680 --> 03:13:04,560
Speaker 5: book can be used. And then on March the first,

3500
03:13:04,600 --> 03:13:07,800
Speaker 5: I'll be doing that unlocking the healing Coach. And I'm

3501
03:13:07,840 --> 03:13:09,800
Speaker 5: still going to do you know, books, having books there

3502
03:13:09,840 --> 03:13:12,440
Speaker 5: and do signatures. All right, become a thank.

3503
03:13:12,320 --> 03:13:14,240
Speaker 1: You doctor baby, just flat out of time. Thank you

3504
03:13:14,320 --> 03:13:15,920
Speaker 1: for sharing your thoughts with us this morning.

3505
03:13:16,720 --> 03:13:19,560
Speaker 5: Get on the email list, all right, get on there.

3506
03:13:19,760 --> 03:13:21,920
Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you Carl.

3507
03:13:22,520 --> 03:13:24,920
Speaker 1: All right, he doctor b family. That's it for the day.

3508
03:13:25,040 --> 03:13:29,680
Speaker 1: Classes dismissed. Stay strong, stay positive, please please family, stay healthy.

3509
03:13:29,840 --> 03:13:31,920
Speaker 1: We'll see tomorrow morning at six o'clock right here in

3510
03:13:32,080 --> 03:13:35,760
Speaker 1: Baltimorerow on ten ten wlb and also run the DMV

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03:13:35,920 --> 03:13:38,320
Speaker 1: on Fortune fifty wol