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Speaker 1: Let the hammer tell me what you make of this

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Speaker 1: Indiana Former Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels asking lawmakers to quote

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Speaker 1: do the right thing and reject the redistricting push. You

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Speaker 1: and I, I think have a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: diferent opinion than like Rob Kendall and some of the

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Speaker 1: other people on this. Well, I don't know. Rob is

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Speaker 1: like coming from a place of you know, you don't

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Speaker 1: do this. All right, things are fine. This is politics,

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Speaker 1: you know, And I'm coming from a place where no, hell,

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Speaker 1: screw it, let's get as many seats as possible.

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Speaker 2: I'm a counter puncher, yes, by nature, That's how I am.

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Speaker 2: If you kick me in the crotch, I want to

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Speaker 2: kick you in the crotches. And this kind of thing

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Speaker 2: has been happening in other states. So you have to

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Speaker 2: ask yourself, do you want to fight back or do

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Speaker 2: you want to sit there and look noble, sit there

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Speaker 2: and look right and knowing you've done the right thing.

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Speaker 1: I want to win.

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Speaker 2: I want to win now. Rob does make a great point.

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Speaker 2: You're under the impression that you're going to get a

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Speaker 2: good Republican if you do this, which is not a guarantee.

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Speaker 2: There's not a lot of good Republicans right now. The

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Speaker 2: problem with Indiana as a state is that there are

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Speaker 2: too many squish, weak ass Republicans. And honestly, as a

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Speaker 2: guy that votes on the right most of the time,

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Speaker 2: a week Republican is way worse than a radical Democrat

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Speaker 2: because at least with a radical Democrat, you know what

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Speaker 2: you're in for, you know what you're getting. With a weak,

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Speaker 2: squish Republican, you're just setting yourself up to be let down.

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Speaker 2: And I understand that argument. But Illinois has been doing

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Speaker 2: this for a while. California has been doing this for

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Speaker 2: a while. I'm a counterpuncher, fight back. And we're starting

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Speaker 2: to hear that some folks in Washington had some and

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Speaker 2: shakers in the conservative movement, like the kid in Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: Scott Pressler, who's famous for going door to door and

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Speaker 2: campaigning for conservative causes. Starting to look at Indiana, specifically

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Speaker 2: the leadership in the Senate in Rod Bray and say,

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Speaker 2: now wait a minute here, you guys got ours next

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Speaker 2: to your name, but you pass a lot of taxes

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Speaker 2: you didn't get property tax through, and now you're against

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Speaker 2: the changing of the congressional maps. Are you sure there's

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Speaker 2: an R next to your name. Be a shame if

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Speaker 2: you got primaried. And we'll talk to Rob about this

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Speaker 2: a little bit later on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Bray, I mean, it's going to be twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty eight before he right, he just won. He is

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Speaker 1: in the action. But I'm with you counterpunching, and I

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Speaker 1: like what North Carolina did. North Carolina is doing what

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Speaker 1: we should be doing here in Indiana, or at least

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Speaker 1: that's what some people think.

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Speaker 2: Right. They have changed the congressional map. It wasn't a

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Speaker 2: radical change. It didn't pick up like nine or ten

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Speaker 2: seats or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: What would be a radical change in Indiana if that happened,

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Speaker 1: if we picked up two more seats.

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Speaker 2: One or two the max because already it's pretty red,

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Speaker 2: yes already. But Mervan and Andre Carson would be the

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Speaker 2: ones that would be sweating this out. And if you're

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Speaker 2: telling me.

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Speaker 1: Andre Carson might have to do some actual work.

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Speaker 2: If you're asking me like, would you be okay if

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Speaker 2: andre Carson lost his gig, my answer would be yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: I would. I'm not optimistic. I'm gonna get anybody in

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Speaker 2: his place that would do any better, even if there's

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Speaker 2: an R next to their name. Because Like we said,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of weak, just squish ass Republicans, but

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Speaker 2: it's worth a try.

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Speaker 1: Exactly exactly