1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Sadie, don't even know if I'm doing. He spent two 2 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: decades playing with the Hoosier Legend. Let's hear the story. 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: Ninety three WBC. It's Kennelly Casey Show. I'm Rob Casey's 4 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: out today. Jerry Lopez is in for Casey. Oh my gosh, 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm so excited about this next segment. He is a 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: dear friend of mine and for basically in the past 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: twenty years, he's been hitting the road with John Mellencamp, 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: keyboard player for John Mellencamp and local indie music legend 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: Troy Kennett joins us. Now, Troy, Hello, Hey, you've been 10 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: what like almost twenty years now, you've been playing. 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: Twenty it's coming up on twenty years. Yeah, how does. 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: That even happen? Like, how do you because you've toured 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: the world with John, You've recorded with John, how do 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: you get to be John Mellencamp's keyboard player? 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I just worked around town long enough 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: that I finally was around when there was an opening. 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: Because you're a local guy. 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I grew up in Muncie and I've been here 19 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: since the late eighties when I moved to Indy and 20 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: did session work with the drummer and the bass player 21 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: that had been in John's band forever. Actually did one 22 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: album with his guitar players, Mike Kwanchak and Indy York. 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: We worked on a Jimmy Riser record together. So I 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: pretty much worked with everybody in the band at some 25 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: point or another, but it was mainly from doing session 26 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: work at like Gaither Studios. When I did production music, 27 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: I would bring Dan Clark in to play on something 28 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: that I wrote, and then it was his recommendation to 29 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: get me in. It was the fall of two thousand 30 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: and five. 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: That's exactly how I got this show. I just hung 32 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: around long enough and then finally somebody was like, we'll 33 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: just give it to Kendall. He won't strip up too bad. 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: So like, what is that? Like, does John call you? 35 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: How do you get asked to be in the band? 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: Well, when I got the call, it was to do 37 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: some record for the Ghost Brothers of Darkland County. It 38 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: was a musical he was working on Stephen King at 39 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 2: the time, and his keyboard player lived in Austin and 40 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: had his solo career and something going on, so they 41 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 2: just needed me to come in and record for four days. 42 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: I got the call on a Thursday afternoon to come 43 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: to be there on Monday morning. The problem with that 44 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: is that my brother and I were planning a trip, 45 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: a weekend trip to New Orleans to move our grandparents 46 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: back to Muncie that we're living there and just endure 47 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: Hurricane Katrina and Hurricane Rita. 48 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 49 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: So we were leaving the next day to go to 50 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: New Orleans and I hadn't really been playing my accordion 51 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: a whole lot, and at the time, the instrumentation they 52 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: had for that musical were two guitars, violin and accordion. 53 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: So is it like with music do you have to 54 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: warm up? Do you have to practice it? Like golf 55 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: where you've got to play the course a couple of 56 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: times you can't step up better. 57 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: Not like a singer really has to warm up their voice. 58 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: It's not so much with you know, with playing keyboards. 59 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: I mean it's good to warm up, but playing accordion, Yeah, 60 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 2: it was just one of those things that you know, 61 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: it's a it's a workout. 62 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: Because keys you do everything. Like Yeah, at one point 63 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: at far Maide, you were like a Dick Van Dyke 64 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: character where you were playing a pedal drum and an accordion, right, 65 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: I mean like you have to do like a piano, 66 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: all of these different things you have to know how 67 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: to do. 68 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: In that case, Yes, it was definitely John that called 69 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: and had the idea for me to do that. I 70 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: never dreamed of playing bass, drum and accordion at the 71 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: same time, but I figured it out. Yeah, I try 72 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: had enough notice that I could hold up in my 73 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: basement for like three weeks. And yeah, stand on one foot. 74 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: Troy Kenna is our guest. He is the keyboard player, 75 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: longtime indie musician. He's a keyboard player for John Mellencamp, 76 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: in with him for twenty years and and so like 77 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: you go and it's like hello mister Mellencamp, Hello John, Like, 78 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: how how does that work? Well? 79 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: It went really well. I have to say I was ready. 80 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: I practiced in the back of my brother's truck as 81 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: he drove down there and he had to endure her. 82 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: That's well, so like you're practicing on your way to. 83 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: Yes, I had to do it. I had like fourteen 84 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: songs I had to learn on and so I was 85 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: ready for Monday morning. And I have to say it 86 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: just went really well. And uh, six months later, there 87 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: was an opening. 88 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: Do you do you act? I mean, I assume you 89 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: have to act like you've been there right cale Like, 90 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is a big deal. I'm here 91 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: with John mellen Cave. You get act like okay, yeah this, yeah, 92 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: we're just here doing some music. 93 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: You know what with him? I had In the early nineties, 94 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: I worked at TRC Studios as an entry level writer producer. 95 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: John Cassella was the main writer there, so I knew him. 96 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: I always thought that maybe I would get this job. 97 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: I thought that this is the job I should be doing. 98 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 2: I you know, I'm and I think I'm a good 99 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: fit for the band. 100 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: So you saw it in your mind? 101 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew it's like I belong here when I was, 102 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: you know, as soon as I was recording with at Belmont. 103 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: You know, There's been a lot of other other situations 104 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 2: where I've been really intimidated. That was one. For some reason, 105 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: I just felt like I am ready for this. 106 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: Is it like the Bachelor where they give you the 107 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: rose or hey, you're in the band? 108 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: Like no, actually, And you know what part of it 109 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: maybe is that there wasn't It wasn't an audition. It 110 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: was just recording. Yeah, he clearly had another keyboard player 111 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 2: that had been touring with him, and this was just 112 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: you know, you're just here to do a job and 113 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 2: play for the session. Well it went really well. We 114 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: hit it off and then so when there was an opening, 115 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: I was a no brainer. They just called me and 116 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: I was in. 117 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: Troy Kenna is our guest. He's a keyboard player for 118 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: John Mellencamp. How does that change your life? I mean, 119 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: you are a very well known, like you said, session musician. 120 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: You'd played with all sorts of bands. Like I tell 121 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: people were friends and people who've been around the indie 122 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: music for a long time, and they tell these incredible 123 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: stories about you in the eighties and nineties, not to 124 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: date you, but but like, how does that change your 125 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: life to then be on tour, to be recording with 126 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: a John Mellencamp, Because you have many jobs in music 127 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: outside of just doing that. 128 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: Right, I think, you know, he's probably doesn't tour as 129 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: much as some bands that are out there. So I 130 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: was always able to keep my other things going. I 131 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: played a church gig at the time. I kept that 132 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 2: going like forty weeks a year, maybe. 133 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: So crazy, Hey, look at our talent. They know him 134 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: from melon. 135 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: And session work. I've got a little mobile rig. I 136 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: can do tracks when if I've got two days off 137 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: in a hotel room. It's good to have a project 138 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 2: to work on. Yeah, you know, it's good and so 139 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: I can do that. Everybody in the band has got 140 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: something like that that they you know they can do. 141 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: You get impressed by musicians anymore, like. 142 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Yes, there's so many multitalented multi instrumentalists. 143 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 2: Yeah that I've that I meet nowadays it seems like 144 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 2: I just met Kevin. I bet he plays guitar too, 145 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: Producer Kevin, Yeah, I mean, and look at what he 146 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: does in there. So but yeah, that's the the new 147 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: thing I think is that what I'm realizing with a 148 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: lot of young players is that they can play a 149 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: lot of instruments. 150 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: And that's probably changed a lot because of the way. 151 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: I mean, there are record companies, but it's like the 152 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: way things get produced and made now people can make 153 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: them in their own home. So if you can learn 154 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: how to do, the more stuff you can learn how 155 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: to do, the easier it is for you. 156 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: Right. 157 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you've toured like like it's so cool. I 158 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: live vicariously through you every time you're out on a tour, 159 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: and like you toured with Bob Dylan one time. 160 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we did a tour. It was a minor league ballparks. Actually, 161 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: Willie Nelson was on that one year. The next year 162 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: it was just Bob and John and then there was 163 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: the dough Rollers. I think we're the opening man. 164 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just so cool because you guys actually 165 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: went to like minor league the state the stadiums that 166 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: had the concerts in the stadiums, right. 167 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: And last year we did the Outlaw Tour, Willie Nelson's 168 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: Outlaw Tour, and Bob was on that. 169 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: So happened. 170 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it was incredible. 171 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: You're a big fan, are you. Yeah? 172 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: And Willie too. I mean we've seen Willie at so 173 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: many farm aids, but to see him from the side 174 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: of the stage do his thing and it's like ninety 175 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: two years old, that was a blessing. 176 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. Troy Kennet's our guest. He's a keyboard 177 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: player for John Mellencamp, legendary indie musician. I would be 178 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 1: remiss if I didn't ask on multiple occasions. Now I 179 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: think you've played with with Bruce right. 180 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: A couple times. 181 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: That's right. 182 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: We did the you know, he was on the record 183 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 2: strictly One Eyed Jack in twenty twenty. 184 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: One Wasted Days. Yes, now I can. I hope you 185 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: don't mind me telling this story. But you did your 186 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: part before he came in with John right, like, yeah, 187 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: I don't mean to like if I'm doing some big 188 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: reveal here, but when they put albums together, everybody kind 189 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: of their part and then it gets put together and 190 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: becomes an album. 191 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: Right right, The band did our thing, and then it 192 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: was It might have been a couple of months later. 193 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: I don't know when Bruce came there and did some 194 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 2: did his vocals, did some guitar. So I wasn't there 195 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: at the time. 196 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you know it? Did you know he was 197 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: coming in? 198 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: Yes? Oh I got it, Yeah, cause you told me. 199 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: An insider said, hey, he's digging your piano. 200 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, oh my gosh, that's so cool. 201 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: But you've played with him, like on on stage with 202 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: him too. 203 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. He did a uh there's a fundraiser he does 204 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: called stand Up for Heroes, and he got it. We 205 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: uh played a small combo violinist guitarist John and me 206 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: did that, and Bruce got up and did a song 207 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: with us. It was a couple of years later, so 208 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: that's when I finally got to meet him. And then 209 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: when we did when we were on tour last year 210 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: played Pink Pink Howses we were in New Jersey, he 211 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: got up and did that with us. 212 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: What's the etiquette when you meet because like, as a fan, 213 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: obviously I was fortunate enough to win some sort of 214 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: lottery where I got to meet Bruce for a minute. 215 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,599 Speaker 1: But you're a fan, right, is there some sort of 216 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: musician etiquette when you meet other musicians? 217 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 2: I would say so, yeah, kind of unwritten. We did 218 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: a sound check and I just just stayed in my 219 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 2: place and just kept you know, we just sound checked 220 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: and it wasn't any big deal there. Yeah, the the 221 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: vocals are good. Can you hear Bruce? And it was 222 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 2: all that. But then when we were done, I kind 223 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: of hovered for maybe a minute on the stage and 224 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: he was still there. So I walked over and said, yeah, 225 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 2: it's fine, great to finally meet you after doing this recording, 226 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: and I thought we'd finally do a show. Sometimes. 227 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: Troy Kennet's our guest. He's the keyboard player for John Mellencamp. 228 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: Who inspired you? Because I like John? 229 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I grew up in the so the 230 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: music of the early seventies. I think Talking Book was 231 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: my first eight track. 232 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: Did you say I want to be that guy? Or 233 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: I want to be like that guy? 234 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: Like like you know, well, now, you know, like with 235 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: Elton John on the Honky Chateau album, I played the 236 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: heck out of that. But I think I never saw 237 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: myself as being the artist. Yeah, but I always just 238 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: wanted to be the piano player. 239 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. What's a couple of minutes that we have left 240 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: here with you? These are all things I wanted to ask. 241 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: I've been at Troy for years to come in and 242 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: do this and so this is great, great for me. 243 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: What's it like home life like? Because obviously you have 244 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: your son has grown now I'm curious, you know, like 245 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: twenty years ago, he wasn't and I'm curious how you 246 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: were able to balance that, especially with your wife et cetera. 247 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: Well, I started touring when he was six seven years old, 248 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 2: and the way it went is that you know, I 249 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 2: didn't I wasn't able to see him for weeks at 250 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: a time. But then when I was home. I was 251 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: with him every day. Yeah, I would take him to school, 252 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: I would pick him up. Yeah, we would do you know, 253 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: So weekends, I was there a lot. Now, there was 254 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: a period of time I guess before that I did, 255 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: you know, it was tougher, not getting I would get 256 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: to see for an hour before he went to bed, 257 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: before I went and played shows at Beef and Board. Sure, 258 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 2: or I would be home with him during the day 259 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 2: and then so. But once I started playing with John, 260 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: it's it was great, but at times a roller coaster ride. 261 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: Do you still I mean you still love doing music, right, 262 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: Like it's not a job to you still love this? Yeah? 263 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: I mean it has its good and bad days, like 264 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: any other job. But you know we made the best 265 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 2: of it with remember Skype. 266 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. 267 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: Sam would be swimming at a swim meet and I 268 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: would be in Canada on Skype. 269 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah it's going go Sam, Yeah. 270 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: And then it would cut out, and you know, it's 271 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: like everybody has to. I guess parents go through that. 272 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: They could be across town and still doing that. 273 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: So we talked to fifty thousand people a day. But 274 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: I don't see anybody like I see you. I'll see Jerry, 275 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: I see Kevin, that's it. Yeah, I don't have to 276 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: look at people. You have to go out in front 277 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: of the people, Like I would be mortified to be 278 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: in front of that many people if somebody said, there's 279 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: fifty thousand people. Do you ever do you see the people? 280 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: Do you notice them? 281 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: Is that it's really hard to When they're people I 282 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 2: know my brothers there or whoever, and I know where 283 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: they're sitting, I can never find them during the show. Yeah, 284 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: And I don't try too hard, but I you know, 285 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: I'll look out there in the general area where I 286 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: know they should be sitting, and it's always hard to find. 287 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: But then if they're really close, you know, you see 288 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: some faces. But for the most part, you're pretty far 289 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: removed from, you know, most of the people. 290 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: If you'd have told yourself when you were like in 291 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: the eighties early nice, when you were grinding, like I'm 292 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: gonna end up with Mellencamp, would you have ever believe that? 293 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I thought, yeah, I always thought 294 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 2: I would be doing this with somebody at this level. 295 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: It just took me a long time. 296 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's awesome, man, And you're such a good 297 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: dude and I'm so glad we were able to do 298 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: this because local music. I do fear for local music 299 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: like the future, right, because the way record contracts work 300 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: or don't work now. And you're one of those guys 301 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: that can tell that success story, like you did all 302 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: these cool things locally, you're in Indiana guy, and then 303 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: you end up getting to do this really amazing thing 304 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: later on in your career. 305 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to say, I'm I'm pretty lucky. 306 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, Troy, thanks for being with this today. Man, I 307 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. 308 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: Thank you. 309 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: It's kentll Casey Show ninety three WIBC