1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: You're listening to Rob Kendall. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 2: When we talk about sending money somewhere, we're talking about 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: printing the money because we have no money. 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: And Casey Daniels. 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 3: My government would never lie to me, would they? 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: A ninety three? Tellld you why PC? 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 3: After last night? 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: I think I could do it. You could do what 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: I think? 10 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: What are we gonna do? Well? 11 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: I think after last night. I'm not saying I want 12 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: to do it or I will do it. I'm just 13 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 2: saying I think I could do it that after what 14 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: we saw last night, both in Indiana and then it 15 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: certainly across the nation, is that voters are so fed 16 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: up with everything that is the status quo, that is 17 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: as it is in both parties, and they're so looking 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: for some alternative. And this is what's important. They're looking 19 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: for an alternative, for someone to meet them where they 20 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: are because neither side. This is why we keep doing 21 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: the ping pong thing right where now I vote Democrat 22 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: and now I vote Republican, and then I go back 23 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: to this way Da da da da da dad. And 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: then now you got this Mondami guy in New York. 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: And if you look at the exit polling, what voters 26 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: are saying very clearly is that they are desperate for 27 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: their elected officials to meet them where they are, and 28 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: neither party is doing that, and where they are right 29 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: now is doing something to make living affordable. And there 30 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: is no plan from any party on the end of that. 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: And so I think now more than ever, if I 32 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 2: could get that ten million dollars, I could meet the 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: voters of Indiana where they are, and I could be 34 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: the governor of the state. 35 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: All you need is the lolo price of ten million, 36 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: ten million dollars. To make it happen, you need some 37 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 3: rich friends. Then it was funny. 38 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: Many people will remember. Ari told me I could tell the. 39 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: Story producer Ari, who used to produce Tony Katshow. 40 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: And Hammer Nigel for years. Ari is moving. He left 41 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: us to go to He didn't like not He's still alive. 42 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: He left us to you. He went to go work 43 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: for Indigo is there a social media guy and spokesperson, 44 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: And now he is moving to South Carolina. So Ari 45 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: and I got together for one last little seal you 46 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: later before he left, and he told me yesterday he goes. 47 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: You know, my wife and I were watching TV the 48 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: other night because what the jackpot whatever? The lottery is now, 49 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: it's hundreds of millions of dollars. He goes, if we 50 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: win the jackpot, they're going to give He said, I'm 51 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: going to give Rob the ten million dollars because I 52 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: just want to I want to see him. We're carving 53 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: out ten million for Rob because I just want to 54 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 2: see what he would be able to do. But what 55 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: you're seeing is on all of these issues, right, And 56 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: this is why people are so against redistricting here in Indiana. 57 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 2: They're looking at their politicians going, we beg you for 58 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: help with our property taxes, We're begging you for help 59 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: with our utilities. We're begging you for help being able 60 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: to afford to put gas in our car, and time 61 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: and again you reject us and do nothing. Yet you 62 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: will move heaven and earth. 63 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: It deals big business to try to do this redistrict again. 64 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: And then yeah, then you can get into that the 65 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: IDC stuff and the giveaways and dah da da da, 66 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: and it's a but there's no in this state. There's 67 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: no viable alternative to how bad the Republicans are. So 68 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: there is there is nobody, no Republican meeting them halfway, 69 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: and their voice against the redistricting is sort of people saying, no, 70 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: this is us rejecting you. We don't embrace the Democrats, 71 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: we don't support them, but we reject you. And I 72 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: think you saw in these other states where they view 73 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: it as a viable option, where there are robust parties 74 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: in New Jersey and in Virginia, states that lean Democrat anyway, 75 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: and certainly California. People are asking for politicians to meet 76 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: them where they are and they're not getting it from anyone. 77 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting it's being reported that young 78 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: women are the story of last night. Eighty one percent 79 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: voted for Mom Donnie in New York City, eighty percent 80 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: for Sharilla in New Jersey, seventy eight percent for Spamberger 81 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: in Virginia. So it's it's a lot of the young 82 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: gen Z females that are driving that. 83 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: Well, and they're obviously heavy almost exclusive Democrats. Democrat right, 84 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: and so all elections are really about relationships Like this 85 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: is what so many politicians don't understand is that whether 86 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: it's a school referendum or it's you running for public office, 87 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 2: it's about relationships with the voter base that you serve, 88 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: and part of the like I come back to the 89 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: serving the voter base and having the relationship is understanding 90 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: what matters to them. And I think the Republicans have 91 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 2: once again gotten And a big reason why is there 92 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: beholden just like the Democrats to this donor lobbyist crowd, 93 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: look at the energy issues in our state and look 94 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: at how bought and sold so many of these high 95 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: profile politicians. See Ed Soliday, the head of the Yes, 96 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: the head of utilities in the House of Representatives in Indiana, 97 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 2: and the Indie Star article, well that came out about 98 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: him and his what his counterpart, whatever you call him 99 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: in the Senate is similar, I believe according to that article, 100 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: where they're just bought and sold by these utilities and 101 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: they're screwing you and are totally in bed with the 102 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: with the utilities, with the lobbies. Yeah, so you know, 103 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: I think yesterday's results were about one Virginia. Look it 104 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: as a Democrat, lean to it. It's not a Democrats, David, 105 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: as a Democrat, lean to it. You have a bunch 106 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: of pissed off people because a lot of them in 107 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: Virginia work in Washington, d c. And so they're not 108 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: about that. But also whether it's new Jersey, which has 109 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: voted Republican in the not too distant past, or Virginia. 110 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: You're not seeing the Republicans in Washington offer people anything 111 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: to say, Hey, I want to be a part of that. 112 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: I want our country to my state to look like 113 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: the way Washington, DC looks, And as a result, you 114 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: just get Democrat wins last night. 115 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 3: Do you think Scott Pressler is licking his wounds this morning, Well, 116 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: he had the big push in New Jersey. 117 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 2: So we just to remind people who this guy is. 118 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: He was this what he's a what do you call him? 119 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: Maybe a social media influencer. 120 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, who realed a lot of door knocking in Pennsylvania 121 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: right last. 122 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: Year for Trump, and he was very visible and did 123 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: all this media stuff and he sort of became like this, Oh, 124 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 2: it's the Midas touch guy. And we've been saying again, 125 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: and you know how we hate to be right on 126 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: this show, but we've been saying because he was threatening 127 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 2: to come to Indiana and I said, Okay, come to Indiana. 128 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,239 Speaker 2: How are you going to walk around the entire state 129 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: because all of these senators are all spread out all 130 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: over the state and you ain't got the organization to 131 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: pull that off, and he found out yesterday all bunch 132 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: of these people and causes and whatever that he was 133 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: for went down in flames, because it's much harder when 134 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 2: you're doing First of all, he doesn't have the reach 135 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: to hit multiple states and be in multiple places and 136 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But he also doesn't have the relationships. 137 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: He had sort of built some of those relationships in 138 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: Pennsylvania because he'd spent so much time there. And yeah, 139 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: now nobody's afraid of him here in Indiana either, because 140 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: that's not how it works. It's like yesterday, if we 141 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: spent some time talking at the Avon referendum, and you know, 142 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: I was saying it's the sneaky and the scam and 143 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: everybody should vote against it. I was under no delusion 144 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: that Rob Kendall doing one or two segments on a 145 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: school referendum in a city or a town I don't 146 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: live in. 147 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: We're going to move this, We're gonna. 148 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: Change the not day of Well, no, we didn't do 149 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: anything like if I don't want to do go on 150 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: a knock on doors whatever. But the point is, if 151 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: it happens in my hometown, it's a different ballgame. Because 152 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: I got a lot more press way and a lot 153 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: more friendships, a lot more relationships, and as we proved 154 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: the last time this happened, but you have to be 155 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: that is what all of this is about. And so 156 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: if you kind of extrapolate that out to a statewide, 157 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: it's about who's in your corner, What are you talking 158 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: about doing, how are you talking about doing it? And 159 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: most importantly, what are you offering the people? Not in 160 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: terms of giveaways, not in terms of hands out necessarily, 161 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: but what are you offering them in terms of a 162 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: plan to make their lives better? 163 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: To govern? Yeah, So in Virginia, half of the voters 164 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: said the economy was the most important issue. In New 165 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: Jersey they claimed it was property taxes and utility bills. 166 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: And in New York City, half of the voters said 167 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: it was cost of living. But back to your point, 168 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: vivek Ramaswami, he came out and he said that the 169 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: Republicans lost all of those races because they don't care 170 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: about affordability. 171 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: We got our asses handed to us in New Jersey, Virginia, 172 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 4: and New York City. Democrats swept all three. There's two 173 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 4: key lessons for Republicans. Listen carefully Number one, our side 174 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 4: needs to focus on affordability, make the American dream affordable, 175 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: bring down costs, electric costs, grocery costs, healthcare costs, and 176 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 4: housing costs, and lay out how we're going to do it. 177 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: And number two, cut out the identity politics. It doesn't 178 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 4: suit Republicans. It's not for us. That's the woke lefts game, 179 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 4: not ours. We don't care about the color of your 180 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 4: skin or your religion. We care about the content of 181 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 4: your character. 182 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: That's who we are. 183 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: Brings up an interesting point. 184 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: Uh, he does. And I think when you see we 185 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: were talking in the back about like sort of these 186 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: crop what we hammer, Nigel and I were talking about 187 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 2: this these what I call kind of like crossover governors 188 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: where it's hey, I'm a Democrat in a red state, 189 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: whether it's a Kentucky or a Kansas. There are like 190 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: we saw with Youngkin in Virginia, and then there's some 191 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: of these other blue states in the Northeast that have 192 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: have had in New Hampshire as a Republican governor that 193 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: what you see is those people really talk directly to 194 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 2: the voters about issues that resonate and they don't get 195 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: drawn to one corner or another, and they sort of 196 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 2: stay down the straight and narrow in terms of hey, 197 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: we've always talked about this with campaigning. You got to 198 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: pick four or five issues, and you've got to stay 199 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: on those, and you got to never get off them, 200 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: and you're going to live or die with whatever you 201 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: make those issues. 202 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: Out to be. 203 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: And so often we see the identity he identified in 204 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: identity politics. People were not going to vote against Mondami 205 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: because he's a Muslim, Like, I'm sorry, that was a 206 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: stupid play. Because New York is a by default goes left. 207 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: That wasn't going to bother those people. We're twenty five 208 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: years on from nine to eleven. Again, don't mean to 209 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: be crass, but a lot of people who were there 210 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: on nine to eleven aren't with us anymore. Your generation, 211 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: entire generation removed from it, and so that stuff just 212 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: doesn't play. If you're going to beat a guy, first 213 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: of all, you can't beat him with a disgraced governor 214 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: who went out for allegedly groping and harassing women and 215 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 2: was hated because of what he did during COVID. That 216 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: was your alternative. The other alternative was the current corrupt mayor. 217 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: The Republicans are non existing there in that Silva guy who, 218 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 2: while a hero for what he's done to try to 219 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: clean up the streets, has been at this for how 220 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 2: long and never moved to anybody. You have to get 221 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: people viable alternatives, and I'm sorry, so I just reeled 222 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: off to you. Was not that well. 223 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: And it doesn't hurt that mom. Donnie was out there 224 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: saying free, this free, that everything's going to be free. 225 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: I'm going to make it so affordable for you. People 226 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: wanted to hear that. Now he's going to actually have 227 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 3: to make that happen, and that's where the problem's going 228 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: to come for him. 229 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: Years ago, friend of our show, Michael Munger, he's a 230 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: famous dooke economist, one of the people that really got 231 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: me motivated to get involved in politics. He said this, 232 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 2: and it's always stayed with me. It is very hard 233 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: to defeat Santa Claus. When Santa Claus is on the ballot, 234 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: it's very hard to defeat that because he doesn't have 235 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: to follow through. He knows it's not really free, but 236 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: he can make the promise and then it forces you 237 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 2: to run against that, and if you run on reality, 238 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 2: that's not nearly as appealing as Santa. 239 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 3: Claus yep so CNN, CNN, I know, take it with 240 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: a grain of salt. They came out with a new 241 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 3: poll and they said that Donald Trump's approval rating is 242 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 3: sitting at thirty seven percent, that's the lowest of his 243 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 3: second term, and seventy one percent cite the economy as 244 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: the reason. 245 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: Let's take a break and get into that, because I 246 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: think that's really interesting that we had talked about how 247 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: Trump was sort of stuck in that forty forty two range. 248 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: It appears now we have tipped in multiple polls, which 249 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: if you think of a poll, it's a snapshot of 250 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: a moment in time. It's like a flip book. You 251 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: see a bunch of them, it gives you a picture. 252 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 2: Let's talk about that number and the economy. Because the Republicans, 253 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I know, they hate well, they like you, 254 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: they hate me. But we've been saying this for months 255 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: on this show, and it's totally playing out across the 256 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: country about what they need to do. 257 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: You're listening to Kendall and Casey. I'm ninety three WIBC. 258 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: We got a feud, Casey, I'm here for this. 259 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 3: What's going on? 260 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: Well, Destiny Wells, you know she is one loss away 261 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: from becoming the Buffalo Bills of Indianapolo Tison government. She 262 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: lost badly to Diego Morales for Secretary of State. She 263 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: lost badly to Todd Rokeita for Attorney General. She then 264 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: lost badly to a grandma with no opinions on anything, 265 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: whose actual name was Karen when she ran for party boss. 266 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: And so when the guy running for governor in New 267 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: Jersey lost, I think it's a third time. They keep 268 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: dominating the some guy, the same guy for some reason. 269 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: Hammer and Nigel made this this AI meme or gift 270 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: or whatever they're called. 271 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: And it was Destiny Wells and Beta O'Rourke. 272 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he it's them. It's them with their arms open, 273 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: and it says, I'll just read you the tweet. This 274 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: is so good, he said, maybe it's time for New 275 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: Jersey to stop nominating Jack. How do you pronounce his 276 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: last name? I think Chitarelli. How he pronounce his last name? 277 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 2: Let's go live to Desney Wells and Beta Rourke welcoming 278 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: Welcoming Jack to the habitual Losers Club. And now she 279 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: apparently got winto this because she has responded with her 280 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: own meme or gift or something back to them, And 281 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: so I think we got a feud going on here, and. 282 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 3: I back life to you Hammer and Nigel. 283 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: Yes, look here, lady, you can do whatever you want 284 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 2: to do. But Jason Hammer is the last person I 285 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: would pick a fight with. 286 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 3: So he is, speaking of picking, he is. 287 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: The most spiteful, relentless person I've ever met. So I 288 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: can't wait to see how this, how this goes Anyway. 289 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: Destiny Well has been very creative lately. I think she's 290 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: using the AI, the chat Gita. She's a lot. 291 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: Of fun on social media. She's a complete dumpster fire 292 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: anytime she runs for anything because people get to know 293 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: her and they're like, no thanks. But she's she's got 294 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: a spicy on social media. She brings the smoke she does. 295 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 3: She's not afraid. Okay, she picking fights with Hammer and Nigel, 296 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 3: But you're right I would not do that. 297 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, take the free advice, lady. This is not 298 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: gonna end well for you. 299 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: So CNN released a poll, Yes, CNN, they said that 300 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: Donald Trump's approval rating is at thirty seven percent, the 301 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 3: lowest of his second Okay. 302 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: Now who this was CNN. Now people will probably dismiss it. 303 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: But like we have talked about, we have you know, 304 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: we follow this stuff closely, and until a couple of 305 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: weeks ago, you saw Trump on most polls somewhere between 306 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: forty and forty four percent. We kind of said forty 307 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: two is probably where the number is. But then over 308 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: the past several weeks we have seen that number dipping lower. 309 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: We've seen more forties, We've seen a couple thirty nine. 310 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: We now see a thirty seven. And so if you 311 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: think of it like a flip book, we're polling as 312 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: a snapshot of a moment in time. The picture you're 313 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: getting from multiple outlets seeing kind of the same thing 314 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: is that Trump's approval rating is going down from already 315 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: in probably uncomfortable territory. 316 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 3: It was in sixty eight percent of Americans say the 317 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 3: country's going very badly and the economy is the biggest concern, 318 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: seventy one percent rating conditions as poor or very poor. 319 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 3: They say it's the economy and the cost of living 320 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 3: is the most pressing. 321 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: Issue, Bingo. 322 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 2: And this is why we've been screaming about this for 323 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: months on this program, which is that while the border 324 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: is certainly important and there are people who like the 325 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: border is, like we're talking about the border is like 326 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: just something you expect. It's like if you go someplace 327 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: and there's you know, did you get good service or not? Right, 328 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: there's just basic things. Whatever the deal is, whatever service 329 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: you order or place you go or whatever, there's just 330 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: certain things you expect, and if it doesn't work, then 331 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: you get punished for it see Biden, see Kamala. But 332 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: if it works, you're like, well, yeah, I pay taxes 333 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: for this, right, Like I expect us to have a 334 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: secure border. I expect crime to be under control wherever 335 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: I live. Unless you live in Indianapolis. Then if it 336 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: doesn't work, then you're just like, oh great, let's vote 337 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: for Joe hawk Set again. But for most places, politicians 338 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: would get punished for those things and not rewarded. Trump 339 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: has done a nice job with those things. However, when 340 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: it comes to approval rating, front and center is the economy, 341 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: which we have told you. I don't care what speech 342 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: Trump gives. It stinks. The cost of living, I don't 343 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: care what levit or living or leave it or whatever 344 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: her name is. The Press Secretary Caroline Levitt. Levitt comes 345 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 2: out and says stuff is very expensive. Food is ridiculous 346 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: trying to get at the grocery store, you know, for 347 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: a week's worth of groceries. If you've got a family 348 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: of you know, I'll operate off a family of three. 349 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: It's essentially impossible to get out for less than a 350 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty bucks. 351 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 3: Well, and when you're being told consistently that how hot 352 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: the country's hot, hot, hot, you feel like you're being 353 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: gas lit totally when you just went to the grocery 354 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 3: store and you know, oh, this is not going well. 355 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: He comes off as a guy that's more interested in 356 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 2: promoting himself than helping you, and more interested in convincing 357 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 2: you it's not as bad as you know it is, 358 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: and that is something people will recoil against if you know. 359 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: It's the whole Bill Clinton, I feel your pain. Of course, 360 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 2: he didn't actually feel your pain. He didn't care about 361 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: your paint, he didn'tant to do anything about your pain. 362 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 2: But he said it. He lied, right, He said the thing, 363 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: I feel your pain, and people buy that. I don't 364 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 2: know why, but they buy that. And in the case 365 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: of Trump, he just comes off as a guy that's 366 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 2: totally out of touch with the reality on the ground. 367 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 3: So according to this poll, eighty percent of the people 368 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: said that the shutdown is a major crisis, a major problem. 369 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 3: What percentage eighty percent? 370 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 2: Eighty percent yeah, and. 371 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 3: Sixty one percent disapprove of Trump's handling of the shutdown. Now, 372 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 3: to me, that's just miscommunication or the branding of the shutdown. 373 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: The message isn't getting true from the Republicans that they 374 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 3: voted fifteen times. 375 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 2: Well, let's work through this for a second. Okay, let's 376 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 2: bring this back to home, which is what we do 377 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: better than anybody else. Now, there were referendums that failed, 378 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: there were referendums that passed yesterday, the big ones. It 379 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: was a very mixed bag, right, But in Central Indiana, 380 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 2: we had a referendum for a sizable tax increase on 381 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: residence in Amon and only eighteen percent of the people 382 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: even showed up to vote. 383 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 1: Like. 384 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: Either, you so like Logically, you would say to yourself, 385 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 2: if you live in this community, you're one of two camps. Right, 386 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 2: Either I so believe in where this money has gone 387 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: to the schools. I'm all in on it, and I'll 388 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 2: show them vote for that. 389 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: I'm most likely you're a parent or of a student 390 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 3: in that school system. 391 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 2: Screw you people, I can't afford to live, and you're 392 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: proposed to taking five or six hundred dollars a year 393 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: from me for this school system that fifty four percent 394 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: of the kids are passing tests a few people. I'll 395 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: wait in line for ten hours if I have to 396 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: to vote. And yet eighty two percent of the people 397 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: that community weren't in either of those camps, which means 398 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: they're not paying attention, they don't care. By default, they're 399 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: then basically voting yes because unless you vote no, then 400 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: you're condoning the behavior. 401 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 3: But the point of it isn't that the plan of 402 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: the school system to do it in a non electioneer 403 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 3: get that in under the radar really quick. 404 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: It is, but in a world in which everyone basically 405 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 2: has a cellular telephone with the internet access, and the 406 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 2: everybody's on the towny chatterboards into blah blah blah, how 407 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 2: could you not have known? How could you not you 408 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 2: see the signs? Wouldn't you be curious to go vote 409 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: yes for Amon schools? What's going on with Avon's schools? 410 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: My point in all this is, of course the public 411 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 2: is going to say it's Trump's fault or the Republican's 412 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 2: fault because they're not. 413 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 3: Once in power. 414 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 2: These are the same people in eighty two percent. The 415 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: people didn't even show up to vote when they were 416 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: gonna either get screwed or before it or whatever. The 417 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 2: point is, the public at large is uninformed. The Republicans 418 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: are in charge. Hell, the Republicans got blamed when the 419 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: Democrats were in charge for it. The Republicans always get 420 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 2: blamed for government shutdowns. 421 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 3: Well, there's a big case now in front of the 422 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 3: Supreme Court. They're hearing the case on the tariffs, and 423 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 3: if tariffs are invalidated, that could be bad news as well, 424 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: because what the US is going to owe tens of 425 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 3: billions in refunds then. 426 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: And I got a fit. Well, no, they would just 427 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,239 Speaker 2: say we're done here, Like you don't have to give 428 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: China it's money back. You just say you can't do 429 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: it anymore. That's like, you know, we're not sending a 430 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: bunch of y end to the Chinese. That's gonna go down, 431 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 2: I think because the way Trump got so, I'll do 432 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: this role, I'll do this real quick. So if you're 433 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 2: not paying attention, so Trump does all these tariffs, and 434 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 2: these tariffs are supposed to go through the Congress, which 435 00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: makes sense. However, going back to Richard Nixon, under times 436 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 2: of quote unquote emergency, the president can impose emergency tariffs 437 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: on countries. Now, they have pretty broad freedom on this right, 438 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 2: They have pretty broad ability to do this. So like 439 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 2: when Trump came out and said, hey, the fentanyl crisis 440 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: of Canada and Mexico tariffs, nobody really fought back on 441 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: that because of the broad powers given. However, when you're 442 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: doing India and Britain and you know all these other countries, 443 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: people are going, now, wait a second, you can't what's 444 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 2: the emergency with all of these other countries? And so 445 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 2: Democrat attorney generals across the country, along with various small 446 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 2: businesses small business organizations are suing the federal government, suing 447 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: the Trump administration claiming and probably rightfully, so, casey, what 448 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: is the emergency here? 449 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: How about pricing out Americans of existence? 450 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: Well, he's making it worse. He's not helping it with 451 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 2: these tariffs. That's not China is not pricing America out 452 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: of existence. We are pricing Americans out of existence by 453 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: printing all the money and buy the tariffs and everything else. 454 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: And so they're probably going to win at the Supreme Court. 455 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 2: Just a guess. Reading the tea leaves thus far, it 456 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: could obviously go any anyway saying no, these aren't emergencies. 457 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 2: They basically had admitted in these filings that they're not emergencies. 458 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 2: And now it's going to be hard for you to 459 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 2: hard for you to claim things you've said publicly aren't 460 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 2: the things that are going on. But anyway, that's what's 461 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 2: going on with the tariffs at the Supreme Court. 462 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 3: He's going to be giving a speech or he's talking 463 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 3: today at one o'clock and it's supposed to be all 464 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 3: economy based. 465 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: Oh thank you. Someone pointed out the yen is Japan, 466 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: Wan is China, so I definitely want to get that right. 467 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 2: So we wouldn't want to be I mean, because somebody's 468 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: basing their time. I'm sure there was somebody going down 469 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: the street screaming at their in their car about that. 470 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 3: Probably. Hey, you a all the yen is the Japanese, right, Rob? 471 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 3: It is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three WYBC salesman. 472 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: How many friends do you have? 473 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: All of them? I'm actually accepting applications right now. I 474 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: have an opening. So, okay, you're my only friend, Rob, 475 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 3: I'm accepting applications. 476 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: You don't want me as your friend. 477 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: The average American maintains just three point six close friendships. 478 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: Adults lose nearly one close friend per year, totally nine 479 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 3: over a decade. 480 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I wonder, like what they constitute is a 481 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: close friend? I would buy that, Like, do you think 482 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 2: you have three and a half people? Three and a half? 483 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 2: Cut me in half, I'll be half right. 484 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 485 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 2: Do you think you have three people excluding me that 486 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 2: you would say is a close friend? 487 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 3: Yes? I do. 488 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: Okay, you have more than that. 489 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: Noah, it's a small circle. 490 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. Don't tell people stuff, they'll just use it against you. 491 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true, as when you don't trust anybody, the 492 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 3: circle becomes very small. 493 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 494 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 2: I had to get good at making new friends all 495 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 2: the time because I would just you know, like I 496 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 2: just went to the same places for about fifteen years, 497 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 2: and then people would go on with their lives and I. 498 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 3: And you were still doing the same thing. 499 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: Phobia going on with mine, and so I would just 500 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 2: sit there and every two years I have to make 501 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 2: new friends. 502 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I've told you this before, but when your 503 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 3: daughter gets in school, you'll most likely become friends with 504 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 3: her friend's parents. That's the way that went. 505 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, though, most of the people in 506 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 2: that community know me, Casey, and they priority made their 507 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: up their mind about me. 508 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 3: That's true, they already keep their distilled. 509 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to be that parent that stands in the 510 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: the out the outfield fence, behind the fence, away from everything. 511 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to taint my kid with being my kid. 512 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 2: I want her to have her own chance and her 513 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 2: own going to. 514 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: Give her like she'll she'll be like in witness Protection, 515 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 3: give her a fake name. 516 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she's gonna. I mean she is a 517 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 2: spitting image of me, both in looks and personality. But 518 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: my point is I don't want her to ever have 519 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: anything used for her or against her because of who 520 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: her father was. I grew up loathing that as a kid, 521 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: where I would say, well, his dad is so and so, 522 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: so he got whatever. I want her to sink or 523 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: swim on her own. So to answer your question, no, 524 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: I'm not making any friends with my kids friends. 525 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 3: So you're good. You're set. Top reasons that friendships end 526 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 3: geographical distance. That's the leading cause. Fifty percent. Oh, Yeah, 527 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 3: people move away. 528 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: I wonder in the Facebook, Twitter, Instagram era, like if 529 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: that's more common now because you still see everybody each day, 530 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: you still pictures or whatever. 531 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 3: Right, you still know what's going on in their life, right, 532 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 3: but the actual physical hanging out, being together, face to 533 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: face conversation, that's not there. I don't know. 534 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: If I want to know what's going on in people's lives, 535 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 2: then I got a care life. 536 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 3: Transitions is another reason why friendships fade. And that's what 537 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 3: you're claiming happened to you. 538 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: Oh, every two years people got on with their. 539 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 3: Lives, right, they would get married or they would have kids, 540 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 3: and you were not relating, and then oh I was. 541 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: Relating, just not like sort of lasting relating that right. 542 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 3: I can see how this is playing out. Your friends 543 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 3: with some guy you used to go to the bar 544 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 3: all the time, he meets a girl, they get married, 545 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: he says, hey, I'm gonna go beat rob for beer. 546 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 3: Why are you going to meet him at the bar? 547 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 5: Stay home with me? 548 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. 549 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: That would happen with every two year, yeah exactly. And 550 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 2: I would just tell them when they would say you 551 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: don't have got so and say, and it really would 552 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: start when they had a when you get some sort 553 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 2: of full time living girlfriend, and I would just sometimes 554 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 2: proactively tell the people, well, this is where we're gonna 555 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 2: part ways. You let me know if this doesn't work out, 556 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: I'll still be here. And then in the meantime, I'm 557 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: not going to ruin this for you, because I've seen 558 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: this play out several times that I know how it goes. 559 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 3: I'll be here when you guys are up. Yeah, you 560 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 3: can find me here. Time constraints are another reason that 561 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 3: friendships fade. Twenty five percent say they're just too busy. 562 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean after a while you get invite 563 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 3: it and you keep declining because you're too busy. Eventually 564 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: the person's probably gonna stop and bite me. 565 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: I told my dad this the other day because when 566 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 2: I was a kid, my dad was a very good 567 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: amateur golfer, and then when I was a kid, he 568 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: never he never played and as a kid, you're prossing, 569 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: like why doesn't my dad play golf anymore? Like this 570 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: seems silly for him not to do that, and then 571 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: you become a parent yourself. And I told him the 572 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: other day, Oh, I get it now. 573 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 3: He was doing it to get away from you. 574 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 2: There's no he wasn't playing because didn't have any time 575 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 2: any like you. 576 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 3: Just you don't. 577 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 2: You have no time as a parent, You have no 578 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: time to do teddy yep. And you can't just leave 579 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: the kid on their own, no, frown on that. 580 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 3: Not at the age of yours. 581 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 2: Is what's the first age you left your daughter by yourself? 582 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: It was probably what thirteen? 583 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 2: Oh wow, twelve? I was thinking eight. 584 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 3: No, not until she could babysit someone. 585 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 2: Else's don't answer the door. 586 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 3: Nope, Abduel's gonna join us. Next it is Kendally Casey 587 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 3: on ninety three WIBC. 588 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 6: Well, all, there is so much going on with themlypics 589 00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 6: and government. 590 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: Let's get to the bottom some some of them, some 591 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: of them. See how much we can do here. In 592 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: the next couple of minutes, ketl a Casey show, I'm 593 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 2: Rob Casey's here. Look who it is, author, broadcaster, provocateur, owner, 594 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: operator Indie politics dot org. 595 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 5: And do give shabaz hello. I feel like a million 596 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 5: bucks today. Well, act you are more like eighteen million 597 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 5: after taxes, but I feel like a million. 598 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 2: Buss always coming up roses in your your world. Okay, 599 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 2: so a lot to get to let's start with this 600 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 2: moving of the special session, which I guess no longer 601 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: is a special session. I guess it's now part of 602 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 2: the normal session on redistricting to December. The governor had 603 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: come out and it seemed pretty directly said, if this 604 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: isn't done by November, middle of November, you ain't gonna 605 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 2: get done because people need time to get everything organized. 606 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: People need to know what district they're in, the government 607 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: entities need to be able to, you know, do whatever. Well, 608 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: now it's first of December that they're going to be 609 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 2: starting on this. With the announcement from the legislature, that 610 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 2: seems like it's after Nova. Remember, lying is such a 611 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: strong word, but it bears the governor is not remaining 612 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: consistent with his pre pre given statements. 613 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 5: Well, actually, no, I disagree. I think the governor is 614 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 5: being consistent with the statement. His statement is basically saying 615 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 5: that if this doesn't start November third, it's probably it 616 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 5: is probably not going to happen. Well, guess what, it's 617 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 5: not going to start after It's not going to start 618 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 5: on November third, So guess what it's not going to happen. 619 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 5: You're just being clairvoyant in a nutshell because number one 620 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 5: to call it, call the special session November third. Number 621 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 5: one will cost the tax at least three hundred thousand 622 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 5: dollars because it's not like going to show up here 623 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 5: one day, get it done and then leave. Going to 624 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 5: take easily ten days to get all this done. 625 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: Because they get these tax code things they got to 626 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: do too, which that is pretty unc controversial. That is 627 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: just aligning state tax code with the federal tax code 628 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: because of the changes based on the new bill it was. 629 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 5: Passed, and that you can do during session period because 630 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 5: session officially starts on organization day. That's right, So anytime 631 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 5: after organization day it doesn't cost them anymore any more 632 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 5: money or or or a. It's a very small cost 633 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 5: in session predamn out sessions. 634 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, you got and yet the mileage and 635 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: the blah blah blah. So like when they're like saying, oh, 636 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: it's gonna save us all this money, well some, But 637 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: I don't think the issue here is money. I think 638 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 2: they heard that at like this Greg good town hall. 639 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: How do I think they said, oh, we'll check that back. 640 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: I don't think money is the biggest issue driving people 641 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 2: against redistricting. 642 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 5: No, and it's a number of other different reasons as 643 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 5: to why it's not happening. Money is the most is 644 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 5: the easiest one and most convenient one to use because 645 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 5: also you can also money is easier to spell, to 646 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 5: explain to a taxpayer. If we come early, we got 647 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 5: to spend this much money, we come after the date, 648 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 5: we don't. 649 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about the Greg good town hall. The 650 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: terre Haute Senator Republican has this town hall last weekend. 651 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: Literally no one speaks in support of redistricting. Seventy plus 652 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: people speak in opposition. If I'm him, I would have 653 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: just said, and maybe he did in his mind, he's 654 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: not going to say publicly. And if I'm any of 655 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: these swing district senators, I'm meaning myself, I'm done here. 656 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 2: There's that you couldn't even get one person. And you 657 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: had all these Internet influencers telling people to go and 658 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 2: turning Point USA and all of these people, and you 659 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 2: couldn't even get one person to come speak and support 660 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: We're done here. 661 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 5: And also here's another fun part too. And I've known 662 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 5: Greg for years when you used to work over over 663 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 5: at Indiana State University. One of the things that Greg 664 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 5: did for crowd control to make sure people live in 665 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 5: their district was they had to have an ID brilliant 666 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 5: and at driver's license and else had to have their 667 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 5: zip code brilliant because but Greg had was a zip 668 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 5: code of everybody in the district. Because it's not just 669 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 5: Bigo County said, it's a whole sect of southwest Indiana. 670 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 5: And if you didn't have an if your idea didn't 671 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 5: match one of the zip codes, you weren't you weren't 672 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 5: getting in. 673 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: It was brilliant on his part because he said because 674 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: I think people thought, oh, he's doing this to stop 675 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: the lefty crazies from showing up. No, no, no, I think 676 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 2: he did this to stop the conservative of that, not 677 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 2: the hardcore Republican people who don't live in his district 678 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: from showing up. And I think that was brilliant of him, saying, 679 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 2: I only care about what people who can vote for 680 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 2: me are against me. Thing. Great move. 681 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 5: It's it goes back to my days in the Illinoid 682 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 5: General Assembly. Whenever a lawmaker I was having a conversation 683 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 5: with lawmaker, Okay, we got a controversial bill here. How 684 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 5: do you determine who's in your district and who is 685 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 5: in like Ambula. It's easy when people call our office, well, 686 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 5: ask them and give us your name, and what's your 687 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 5: zip code? If a zip code like if the zip 688 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 5: code isn't And. 689 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: This is what we've been saying for months to these 690 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: people who am in huffing and puffing and these DC 691 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 2: DRAINO guys on the internet, as it taken from me 692 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: from my own experience. We got tens of thousands of 693 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 2: people to call about property taxes. But and part of it, 694 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: the limitation is we're only heard in twenty five counties. 695 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: There's ninety two of them, right, But if you don't 696 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: live in the what we learned is if you don't 697 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: live in the district, these people don't care. And in 698 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: a lot of places on property taxes, they didn't get 699 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: enough phone calls to overcome the school. They may have 700 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: gotten a lot of phone calls, but I don't have 701 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: to worry about pissing the school off or whatever. And 702 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 2: thus you didn't get the thing. You have to have 703 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 2: people in the districts who can vote against these people 704 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 2: show up and say something. That's who they're going to 705 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: listen to. 706 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 5: The Only people whose contingents are state white or stay 707 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 5: white elected official. 708 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 2: That's right, which is why Braun cared about it or 709 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: faked caring about it on this topic. If this fails, 710 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,239 Speaker 2: if they have a vote, well either way, if they 711 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: have a vote and it fails, or they gabble into 712 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 2: the tax coach Gable and don't have a vote, Braun's 713 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 2: in big trouble because he's going to look like an 714 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: idiot if this doesn't pass. 715 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 5: On a number of different levels. This is, if it 716 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,239 Speaker 5: doesn't happen, or they or it fails, this does not 717 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 5: look Mike Brod has come between a rock and a 718 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 5: hard place. His only option is that they passed redistricting, 719 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 5: and that is I will never say never, but the 720 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 5: odds are not in his favor that this is going 721 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 5: to happen, plain and simple. And by the way, you 722 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 5: spent all this capital your first year in office basically 723 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 5: pissed off lawmakers left and right for stuff that's public 724 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 5: and some other things that aren't very public right now, 725 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 5: and you got three years left. 726 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: Right and your two big things, which are property taxes, 727 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 2: you failed miserably on that. And part of the weird 728 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 2: thing is pissed people off about this special session is 729 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 2: you wouldn't veto the problem, pretty tax bill and call 730 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: special session for that, but you'll do it for this. 731 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: This looks like it's going to fail too. And even 732 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 2: if it passes, you kind of already failed because you 733 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: pissed everybody off. He's in big trouble. 734 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 5: Mike is a very smart guy, and I'm sure a 735 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 5: very good businessman, but his political acumen is quite lacking. 736 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, a duels with us a couple of minutes left. 737 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 2: We have to mention that on indiepolitics dot org, calling 738 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 2: it a flamethrow would be an understatement. This is like 739 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 2: some sort of over oversized, overcharged bazooka that you took 740 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 2: to the Lieutenant governor. Tell us about this column that 741 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 2: you wrote. 742 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 5: Well, it's it's it's a scene from kick Ass in 743 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 5: the very of the move when the guys got the 744 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 5: buzuka to my little friend. 745 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: I mean, this is it was glorious, but I mean 746 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: it was, it was, it was it was strong. 747 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, welly go. 748 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 2: Back with the Lieutenant governor. What what is going on? 749 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 5: Lieutenant governor? He went on Wo wo radio. Wo Wo 750 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 5: radio for those folks who may not be where I was, 751 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 5: the Ford Wayne version of WIBC radio down here. He 752 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 5: went on about redistrict, He went on about he was 753 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 5: on as a guest talking about lots of different things, 754 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 5: and then you talked about the grand jury investor mitigation 755 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 5: that is going on in his office right now, involving 756 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 5: ghost employment and AI generated porn. 757 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: Okay, so real quick, let's remind everybody because I know 758 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 2: most people know this, but we have new listeners all 759 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 2: the time. You and I said for months that they're 760 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 2: the marrin Kenny Prosecutor's Office was investigating the office of 761 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 2: Lieutenant Governor for a variety of issues, the two most 762 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 2: prominent of which were alleged AI porn being viewed shared 763 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 2: in the office and ghost employment. We said as part 764 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: of that, there is a grand jury also investigating. We 765 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 2: did not say anybody was guilty. We didn't saynybody was 766 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: going to get indicted. We did not say anbody was 767 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 2: gonna get convicted. 768 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 5: We never accused anyone of a crime. 769 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: We simply said this is happening, and the beckwith orbit 770 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: people lost their mind, li smear, sensationalism, clicks, the blah 771 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: blah blah. And then it came out last week, Oh, 772 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 2: there's documentation showing there's a grand jury and that's exactly 773 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 2: what they're looking into. 774 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 5: And now, now, and here's the fun part of their spin. 775 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 5: Now their spin is how did they know about it? Yeah, 776 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 5: they're you know, you're supposed to dispose. They're a grand jury. 777 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 5: You can't talk about a grand jury. No, you idiots 778 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 5: a lost clear. The only people Canno talk about what 779 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 5: happened in the grand jury are the judge, the jurist 780 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 5: of prosecution. The witnesses can talk about what happened, but 781 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 5: even the witnesses are limited by what they can say. Sure, 782 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 5: and we never talked, we never disclosed into the contents 783 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 5: of the grand jury investigation. 784 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, dumb trucks. 785 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you guys were right, but we demand to 786 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 2: know how you were right instead of focusing on why 787 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 2: are they looking into this? What's actually going on? And 788 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: so Beckwick goes on this who Wold radio show and 789 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 2: by the way, I don't know if he has an attorney, 790 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 2: I don't know who it is. If he does have one, 791 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 2: they got to be just pulling their hair out because 792 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 2: he's doing the worst thing imaginable. He can't keep his 793 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 2: mouth shut. He keeps talking, and every time he opens 794 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 2: his mouth he seems like he contradicts himself. 795 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 5: It doesn't help when there's a possible criminal investigation and 796 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 5: someone in your office and even yourself may and I say, 797 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 5: may you maybe facing criminal charges for you to talk. 798 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 5: That's why the lawyers Jim Boyle's one of the best 799 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 5: lawyers in town for criminal defensive has a card he 800 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 5: always gives his clients. Shut up, then turn over, shut up. 801 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 5: I told you to shut up. That's why if you 802 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 5: ever if there's a criminal investigation, you just don't talk. 803 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: Period. 804 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so real quick, I just want this column. One 805 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 2: of the things that was fascinating to me was Lieutenant 806 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 2: Governor claims on that on that interview that he found 807 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 2: out about the grand jury investigation from the media. But 808 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 2: then in the same interview he acknowledges that somebody he knew, 809 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: somebody from his office who was talking to the Marrion 810 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 2: Keunty Prosecutor's office. So the follow up question would be, well, 811 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 2: what did you think that this person was talking to 812 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 2: them for tittley wings. I mean, he appears to have 813 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 2: totally contradicted himself because, I mean he found out from 814 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 2: the media, but then acknowledges, oh, I knew somebody in 815 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 2: my office was talking to the prosecutor's office. 816 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 5: So I'm confused here you said. On the one here 817 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 5: you said you found out for the media. The other 818 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 5: hand you say you found out from a staffer. Which 819 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 5: one is it? Because that seems confusing because it's testabey 820 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 5: like this, it gets you in trouble with a grand jury. 821 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 2: Sure, And the other thing that is beyond stupid in 822 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 2: this interview on wo wo, he's going after Ryan Mehers, 823 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 2: the prosecutor. Why would you pick a fight with the 824 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 2: guy who holds your future in his hands? 825 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: Good? 826 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 5: You got nothing else better to do, and you don't 827 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 5: know how to shut up? 828 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 2: I just anyway, I'm glad they keep talking. Very good 829 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 2: for us, but for him? 830 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 1: Might we to stop? 831 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 2: Unless Michael will never leave the mile square? All right? 832 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 2: Find him over at Indie politics dot org and it'll 833 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 2: keep your boss. Thank you, Thank you, Ed'll do it 834 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 2: for us today. Thank you for joining us. Thank you 835 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 2: to Kevin, great job, Casey outstanding, and mostly most importantly 836 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 2: you you the listener. Without you, there is no stick around. 837 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 2: Tony Kats Coming up next, Kennel and Casey Show ninety 838 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 2: three WIBC