1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Grand Rising family, and thanks for checking in with us 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: on this Wednesday morning. Later, economist doctor Julianne Malveaux returned 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: to our classroom. Doctor Malvaux will analyze the Trump administration's 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: claims that the economy is quote doing great. Doctor Malvaux 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: will also dig into what's really happening with prices of 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: the stock market and your bottom line. But before we 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: hear from Dr Malveaux, Temple University afrocology professor Not Duff, 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: we'll repreview her book that defines white supremacy and flip 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: that stocks and j. R. Fenwick will check in to 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: break down how to build wealth by investing into Wall Street. 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: But Momentaril, hopefully we'll get La Gang. Interventionalist Malik Spelling 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: will join us. But first let's get Kevin to open 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: these classroom doors again. Grand Rising, Kevin, Oh, I. 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: Got to hit the right button here, Grand Rising, Indeed, 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: Girl Nelson, my man, my man, how you feeling. 16 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm still learning, Kevin, I'm still learning. 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: Hey, man, tell me about it. 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: I realize that it's a constant. 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: You know. 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: You if you're not consistently learning, you're just standing still, stagnating. 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 3: And you're certainly not stagnating brouh. 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: But you know what, let me throw this in here, Kevin. 23 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: We're all learning because as long as you deal with people, 24 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: you're learning. You learned some things about folks that you 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: thought you knew that you didn't know, and you learned 26 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: something different about them on a daily basis. You go, oh, okay, 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: get fat in that box. You know what I'm saying, 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: learning the man an American teaching something exactly. You're learning 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: about yourself as well. 30 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: That's true, learning about the choices you've made, the minds 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: that you have and why you did it, yeah. 32 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: And why right? And how you know? 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: But I think we get real deep here now, Kevin. 34 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: We need to get back to Dr Wilson back and 35 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: here help us out here. Sit on a couch, but 36 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: go ahead. I'm sorry deep with the capital of D. 37 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, man. 38 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: And speaking of deep, the President is celebrating his one 39 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: year anniversary and he says that God is really proud. 40 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: It's been an amazing period of time. What do you 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: think of this last three hundred and sixty five days. 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: Wow, it's been a roller coaster for sure, But it's 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: not as rosy as he thinks it is. When he 44 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: was making that pronounce when he was having that press 45 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: conference and it went all over the place, and he 46 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: was saying that the country's hot, the economy's hot. At 47 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: the same time, Wall Street's reporting that Wall Street was down, 48 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: the Nasdaq was down, everything was down on Wallstreet. The 49 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: down was down. That was down almost more than eight 50 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy. So, you know, while he was telling 51 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: the people that you know, the price is a down 52 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 1: and all this kind of stuff, and people like, hey, 53 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: if you've been in the stores lately, you know, if 54 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: you've seen what the problem is. And I guess it's 55 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: falling on deaf ears, but what else is going on? Kevin? 56 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 3: I just want to ask you, does Trump even though 57 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: what a store is? Man? 58 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: Is he right? Has he ever been in a store? 59 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: Been in Well no, no, we know he's been in 60 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: a couple because he did some kind of a little 61 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: store tour. You know, he put on an apron and 62 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: work at McDonald's. He he went to some warehouse, so 63 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: he knows they exist. 64 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: You know, those are photo ops. 65 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: If you want a photo op, right, you go to 66 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: a place called a store. That's it, apparently. And one 67 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: last thing about that, Jimmy Kimble said, that one of 68 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: the things that the President accomplished in the last three 69 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: under sixty five days. 70 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: Is the whole world hates us. 71 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: Every country in the world hates the United States. And 72 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: you know he's on his way to Davos. He said, 73 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: Davos is in Switzerland. He's on his way to Switzerland. 74 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 4: Man. 75 00:03:54,400 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: And they say his agenda is Greenland and that threats 76 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: to be the top thing on his agenda. And I 77 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: mean because Trump said that his boarder peace is about 78 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: rebuilding Gaza and it might replace the UN And did 79 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: you know that he's charging a billion dollars to be 80 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: a part of the border. 81 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: Peace right everything. But we talked about this earlier. Everything 82 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: with him is transactional. There's always elementing their health, how 83 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: to make some money out. He figures out how to 84 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: make money out of everything. Everything he does is you know, 85 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: whether whether he goes golfing in this golf uh uh, 86 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: parks down in whether it be in Scotland or it 87 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: being Florida or in Maryland where he's got them because 88 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: he charged he goes to the Secret Service, it has 89 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: to be there. He charges them up and there stay 90 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: at the finest hotels. And the bottom line is we're 91 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: paying the tab. So but anyway, at some point the 92 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: American people will wake up. 93 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 5: You know. 94 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: Well, he experienced an electrical issue on the plane, according 95 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: to White House officials, on his way to Switzerland. 96 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: So he'll be a little lady. I suppose. 97 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably shook him up, you know, because he I 98 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: think in his mind that he thinks that everybody loves him. 99 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: He's good. It's gonna be interesting to see what kind 100 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: of reception it gets in Dallas today because if he 101 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: ends up scolding some of those world leaders, which they 102 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: think he will, and tell them, you know, they over 103 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: the United States and Da da dada and threat to 104 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: leave NATO and he's gonna take Greenland and all that stuff. 105 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: That's not gonna go over Well, that's not gonna go 106 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: over well with the world leaders. 107 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: Uh. 108 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: You mentioned Jimmy Jimmy Kills. What say he said that 109 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: the rest of the world hates us? Yes, say no, 110 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: they hate Donald Trump. They don't hate me and you 111 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: but you know he is You're right, they hate They don't. 112 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: I don't think they hate the American people. They understand 113 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 1: there's a distinction. 114 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: Okay, don't don't run around in the world with Baseball 115 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: cap on saying, Hey, I'm American, all right, I wouldn't 116 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: brag too much, but you're the world traveler, that mean man. 117 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: And hey, look, continuing though, they're saying that he is 118 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: very serious about his position on Greenland, and the next 119 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: step for Europe is to manage and delay and kick 120 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: this issue down the road. 121 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 3: For as long as possible. 122 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: There's been real movement in Europe, and unfortunately, doing this 123 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: president's term, the likelihood that Europeans will develop capabilities that 124 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 2: they need to be fully independent in a meaningful way 125 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: from the United States is quite low. So, yeah, the 126 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: thoughts about America around the world kind of wild, kind 127 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: of wild. 128 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. All you got to do is read some of 129 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: these foreign newspapers and I go through some of them 130 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: every morning just to think, I'm just going to headline 131 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: up yesterday's newspaper, the Metro in the UK, it says 132 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: a prize idiot, a pitcher of Donald Trump, and the 133 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: headline is a prize idiot. So and you'll never see 134 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: a headline that in an America newspaper. They're all scared, 135 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: but the Brits and the other countries they don't care. 136 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: You know, they're going to tell the truth. 137 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: Wow, So did you hear that? Trump? 138 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: And after the pardon, now they are being paid, many 139 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: of them. They're sixteen hundred people that charged the White 140 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: House during the insurrection and many of them are getting 141 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: money now for the refund on their restitution that was paid. 142 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: You see, wow, double dip it. You know, you go 143 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: to throw overthrow the government, you get fined and you 144 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: sued because you were found guilty. But it's the same 145 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: thing that Donald Trump is suing the government to pay 146 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: him because he had to defend himself for leading that insurrection. 147 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: So and he wants the government to pay him again. 148 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: Everything he does is transactional. Everything that there's a money 149 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: I an't go through just about everything. So it's not 150 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: surprising that his supporters things the same way. 151 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: Right. 152 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: And meanwhile, Trump has made ICE the largest law inforcement 153 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: agency in the country. They were already making, you know, 154 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: a billion dollar budget. Now he's going to increase that. 155 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and uh well I'm not going to go there. 156 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, what else. 157 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: You mean, what else you have to like continue with 158 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: this line? 159 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: You know what, Kevin, he just controls the news cycle. 160 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: It's just it's just every single day there's something. He 161 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: can we have a day? Can we have a no 162 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: Trump day? You know? Can we just have it with 163 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: there's nothing about Donald Trump, is not in the news 164 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: and no Trump day for once. This is so you 165 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: can breathe. 166 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: This is the lightning round of the year in review. 167 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 2: I tell you what, I tell you what We've got 168 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: Brother Melik and standing by he can make this sound better. 169 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 3: Okay, thanks first of January. And that's the way it is. 170 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: All right, Thank you, Kevin. Eleven minutes half the top 171 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: of us go to l A. Brother Malik is waiting 172 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: for us. Grand Rising, Brother Malik, welcome back to the program. 173 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 6: Grand Rising to you and yours as well. Man, great 174 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 6: conversation you guys are having. Thanks for having me. 175 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this because because you're you're a 176 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: brother from the streets, and I guess you see things 177 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: in this country differently. If you if you were president 178 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: or mayor, let's let's make you mayor of l A 179 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: because that's where that's where your roots out right now, 180 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: what what what would you think you would do differently 181 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: from what what you see what's going on in the 182 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: in the in the country today. What would you was 183 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: a brother from the streets from the hood. What would 184 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: you do differently and what do you think people who 185 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: were would support you for or would they still think, well, yeah, 186 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: he's just a street dude, you know. You know, he's 187 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: he's different, He's he's not flashy, He's he's not he's 188 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: not a Trumpster, he's not an Obama kind of person. 189 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: How do you how do you think you'd win them 190 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: over since we're in this political arena right now, Well. 191 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 6: One of the ways that I would what them over 192 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 6: call is to be very honest with me with the 193 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 6: situation in terms of what we're dealing with in our society. 194 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 6: In the event that I was to be a mayor 195 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 6: or had an opportunity to make a decision like that, 196 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 6: it would be predicated on the needs of the people first, 197 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:22,359 Speaker 6: with real results and not just a bunch of malockey. 198 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 6: It would be with real points and authority in regards 199 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 6: to their expectations and dealing with the fire situations, dealing 200 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 6: with the public safety and sanitation, things of that nature. 201 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 6: I think it's very important that we as a group 202 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 6: of people considered the inner part of our inner city 203 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 6: first to make that healthy and home again, and then 204 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 6: perhaps we can work our way down to the suburban areas. 205 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 6: But there's quite a few things that I would do 206 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 6: an event that I was man after watching this disastrous 207 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 6: situation take place here in Los Angeles under our banner 208 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 6: of civil engagement, I've noticed that there is need for 209 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 6: something different, in a new face and then with some 210 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 6: great ideas. 211 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you. There's thirteen at the top 212 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: there Malik' spellings. I guess a family. Malik is a 213 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: gang intervention. She his offices the streets, especially the streets 214 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: of south central Los Angeles. But Malik, what would you 215 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: say to get people, our people to go to vote? 216 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: You know what, our people have very suspicious about voting, 217 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: getting the electoral politics. They feel that, you know, we've 218 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: been doing this for four hundred years and our situation 219 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: is still the same, and some people just really don't care. 220 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: They still they don't think that vote makes a difference, 221 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: especially young people that you deal with. What would you 222 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: tell them to make them get off that don. 223 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 6: Well, I would tell them, Carl, that it's time for 224 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 6: us to get involved in this situation, to take this 225 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 6: horse by the reins and allow us the opportunity to 226 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 6: run the city. Because at one point that lives, we 227 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 6: were considered part of the problem that we want to 228 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 6: be part of the solution, so we didn't have a 229 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 6: situation like that. To get the young people in the 230 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 6: community to vote for someone, you have some ideas that 231 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 6: reflect their everyday crisis and can act on it and 232 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 6: show true results, not just individually but collectively. I believe 233 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 6: that black people will vote for them as well as 234 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 6: others because we've had enough of the traditional politics and 235 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 6: the politicians that are connected to all the various groups 236 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 6: that have had their opportunity to try to make. 237 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: This thing better. 238 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 6: But when you look at it all actuality. You know myself, 239 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 6: if I was running for mayor or the people that 240 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 6: I would serve my constituents would consist of the stones 241 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 6: that the builders rejected, and the builders rejection stones are 242 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 6: normally the ones who has the simple solutions to these 243 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 6: complex issues like homelessness, crime, poverty, things of that nature. 244 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 6: And once again, I would stop addressing every issue that's 245 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 6: in our community as a violent situation because there's other 246 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 6: things going on in the community of it than violence. 247 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 6: But violence is only a part of the octopus of 248 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 6: poverty that exists in our community today. So getting black 249 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 6: people to vote that and shown the results of your 250 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 6: vote in regard to their future is getting reparations or 251 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 6: the future and getting some parody in the workplace, of 252 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 6: getting some parody inside the housing situation and things like that. 253 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 6: I think that's very important. It has to go hands 254 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 6: on and the world has to know that's being done 255 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 6: in such a bold weight that it's all inclusive, not 256 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 6: just for them, but the priority is those who need 257 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 6: it the most and those who made the most contributions. 258 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: All right, the big deal, milik. Since we're talking about 259 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: electoral politics this morning, you know Jesse Unru, former California lawmacker, 260 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: he said that money is the mother's milk of politics 261 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: something to that extent. Money, who are you going to 262 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: get because all people, you know, when you get into politics, 263 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: you've got everybody's want to write you a check, but 264 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: they always expect something in return. And you see these 265 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: other guys, they're well funded. Do you think a street 266 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, a grassroots campaign could really make it at 267 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: any level, even getting the elected dogcatcher at any city 268 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: anywhere without having money behind them. And I'll tell you what, 269 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the clock here. We got to take 270 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: a quick break So when we come back though, explain 271 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: to us where do you think? And this is this 272 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: is all wrapped up in one too because people are 273 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: saying this the black folks don't support we don't. We 274 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: talk about the inactivity of the Congression Black Caucus, or 275 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: yet still we don't donate to their campaigns. We don't 276 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: help them. We talked about earlier with Kevin about Donald 277 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: Trump being transactional. You understand this. If you you write 278 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: a check to a lawmaker, you expect something in return. 279 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: How are you going to get that hurdle? That's a 280 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: huge hurdle that you have to cross, a Milik, if 281 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: you were elected official, how are you going to get 282 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: some of these big corporations, these billionaires to write a 283 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: check so they could get you over the finish line. 284 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: I'll let you tackle that when we get back. Family 285 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: YouTube can help us out here on this conversation. We're 286 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: talking politics with brother Milik Spelman. He's a gang interventionist 287 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: based in Los Angeles and journalists as well. You can 288 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: reach us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy 289 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: eight seventy six and we're taking phone calls next and 290 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: Grand Rising family, thanks for waking up with us on 291 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: this Wednesday morning. It's a hump day. That means we're 292 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: halfway through the work week. Twenty minutes after the top 293 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: they are with I guess the Milik spelling Malik is 294 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: a gang interventionist. It's one of these brothers who dedicated 295 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: his life to helping brothers and sisters who've made made 296 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: a wrong turn younger in life. He's out there and 297 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't And he's also a journalist. He's worked in 298 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: all different platforms of media, TV, writing, radio, podcasting. He's 299 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: done it all and all for our young people. And 300 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: right now we're talking politics. We're talking just politics with 301 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: the brother of Malik. And the question I posed to 302 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: him because if those of you know the political game, 303 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: you gotta have money. You've got to have money. You 304 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: don't see any poor folks who winning in the offices 305 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: these days. So Malik, how you going to across that hurl? 306 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: What are you going to do? Do you think you 307 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: think people are going to be donating to a person 308 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: who doesn't have money? Just have connections, just and no 309 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: knock on you. But you're basically a street brother. Is 310 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: the streets have that kind of cash that can fund 311 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: a campaign. 312 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 4: Well being that. 313 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 6: I'm the type of person that deal with street politics, 314 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 6: which is far more complex than any political arena or 315 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 6: platform that you can get in America with the Republican 316 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 6: or Democratic Party or otherwise. So I feel that we 317 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 6: as a group of people speaking collectively, in the event 318 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 6: that I was mayor, or considered to be mayor, or 319 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 6: was pretending to be mayor in this conversation, I would 320 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 6: allow corporate America to come back to California in such 321 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 6: a way that when the ones that do exist here 322 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 6: will take on a school, for example, and that graduating 323 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 6: class will get an opportunity to come straight out of 324 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 6: high school into college, or go to a trade or 325 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 6: be a part of some sort of functioning machine here 326 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 6: in Los Angeles that will get them to the next 327 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 6: level in life. So there's a lot of people that 328 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 6: need to be held accountable in regards to how our 329 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 6: situation got the way it is. For example, I would 330 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 6: go all the way back into the files and call 331 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 6: upon the old English people. I would call upon the 332 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 6: people that sold the Dayton steering wheels, all the stuff 333 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 6: that contributed to what they considered gang culture or gain 334 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 6: activity or poverty. Then these people need to be held 335 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 6: accountable all the way down to something as minuscule as 336 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 6: a top rhyming company who's been getting billions of dollars 337 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 6: out of brothers go in to prison for years. You know, 338 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 6: you have to call these people to the table and 339 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 6: explain to them. You have to call Hollywood back to 340 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 6: the table and explain to them that it's not healthy 341 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 6: to have your buses come through our community with billboards 342 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 6: with Martin Lawrence and celebrities with big guns down there 343 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 6: and stuff and influencing our children when you don't see 344 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 6: that in other places. In the event that I was 345 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 6: being considered from there, I would also get the opportunity 346 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 6: to explain to the American people by trying to captivate 347 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 6: their imagination, because we have a large portion of our 348 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 6: community that's going to the liquor store, for example, and 349 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 6: certain parts of America you can't go into the liquor 350 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 6: store and lets you a full grown adult twenty one 351 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 6: or better, and most of the time they're closed on Sundays, 352 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 6: whereas in Los Angeles, Detroit, Washington, Virginia, places like that, 353 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 6: we have young girls in liquorster with grown men and 354 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 6: they're buying alcohol, sex products, talking loud and slick, and 355 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 6: then that's not healthy. When you and I was growing up, 356 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 6: you had bread advertisements in the window, fish, chicken pampers, 357 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 6: things of that nature. So we have to clean up 358 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 6: our own house first, and then in the process of 359 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 6: cleaning up our own house, we have to have results 360 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 6: that reflect our activity along the way. We can't as 361 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 6: black people continue to participate in things with the hope 362 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 6: of getting to carrot. At the end, it's a mistake 363 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 6: and we're tired of the stick and dangle in front 364 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 6: of us. The other way that I would approach the 365 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 6: situation was to make sure that those people were involved 366 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 6: with contributing to the largest portions of our taxes cities, 367 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 6: community to get the respect that they deserve, eating fire victims, 368 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 6: that people who are or are having a hard time 369 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 6: getting their their families back together. Because of that situation, 370 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 6: you have to deal with the fact that Ms Karen passes, 371 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 6: you know, in my opinion, as a constrict twenty year 372 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 6: in Los Angeles for one of two candidates. I haven't 373 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 6: seen her fulfilled that obligation with the connection to the 374 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 6: community and the promises that were made would never failed. 375 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 6: And some of the things that she's expounding on does 376 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 6: not reflect us all. 377 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: Right, twenty four minutes after the top of our family, 378 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: we're doing hypotheticals here with the brother Malik spelling and 379 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: the leak is a guinea pig. He's the question is 380 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: out there? Can you run for office as a person 381 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: without any political background, any money to your street Persson, 382 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: You're just an average guy and you see the changes 383 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: the needed to me and you want to you want 384 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: to make a difference. How would you do that? I 385 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: want to hear from you family reach out to us 386 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: at eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight 387 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: seventy six, I MA think you mentioned clean up the streets, 388 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: and you've mentioned the liquor stores. And that's how the 389 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: current mayor, Karen Bash started, As you recall, she was 390 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: part of a group there was against all these liquor 391 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: stores in our neighborhoods. And then she grew from there. 392 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: But she went, she got she went into an electoral politics. 393 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: She got elected at the local level and moved all 394 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: the way up to a congress room and before coming 395 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: to sign of coming back to la as the mayor, 396 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: do you think people need you need that seasoning to 397 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: play the political game because a lot and I've spoken 398 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: to many of the congress people. You know, they one 399 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: were first going to office, this is what I'm going 400 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: to do. This is you know this, I'm going to 401 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: do this. When they get there, they sat down and 402 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: told this is how this is how it's run up here. 403 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: This is different. You know all those things, those those 404 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: plock commissions you made we were running for office. Once 405 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: you get in office, the change, and that's what they 406 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: change because there's a structure that's an old school structure 407 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: that's in place. There. We see Donald Trump turning out 408 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: on its head right now. He's just throwing everything out 409 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: the window. But as a local person, do you think 410 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: you could be able to do that? Would you fight 411 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: the power? So to speak? After say, you win the election, 412 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: could you could you make those changes that you're talking about? 413 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: Do you think it would be possible? 414 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 6: Yes, I think it's very possible. Due to the fact 415 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 6: that I am not your traditional politician regards to my 416 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 6: allegiance to anyone other than the people, of the circumstances 417 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 6: in which I served not to mention the fact that 418 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 6: I would come in with a bumpy Johnson style of 419 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 6: activism that will reflect our authority in these communities and 420 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 6: make sure that there's an opportunity for every party that's 421 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 6: participating in this electoral or this election get an opportunity 422 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 6: to express themselves freely without any reservation, and then keep 423 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 6: to that promise. And as far as money is concerned, 424 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 6: you know, money can't buy everything. Integrity is what I'll 425 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 6: be running on, and I have a lot of that, 426 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 6: And most of the stuff that people run on that 427 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 6: are becoming government officials or mayors or whatever is normally 428 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 6: the struggle of those who are oppressed, those who live 429 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 6: near the airports, because if you notice, all airports are 430 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 6: in ghettos and an urban cities. So that's why I 431 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 6: make that reference, you know. So what I would do 432 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 6: differently the opportunity to have the people be a part 433 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 6: of my administration, and within that administration would be a 434 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 6: group of people that doesn't have any affiliation with outside 435 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 6: entities that can make them distract from what they are 436 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 6: trying to do. Not to mention the fact that we 437 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 6: can't be bought or soul. You understand, when you deal 438 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 6: with multiple gang murders, when you deal with the politics 439 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 6: of the streets in prison, always know that no matter 440 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 6: what candidate, whether it be John F. Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, 441 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 6: or Donald Trump, the politics that's in the prison always 442 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 6: determines and dictates with those in the political arenas, because 443 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 6: everything that's in prison is based on race and economics. 444 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 6: And that's one of the places that is an event 445 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 6: that I was to run for mayor metaphorically speaking, the 446 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 6: places that I go to campaign at, Karen Vasses and 447 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 6: the Rick Caruso's and the Spence and all them. They 448 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 6: can't go to the dope house, I can. They can't 449 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 6: go to the men's county jail and get them regis 450 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 6: voters I can. They can't go to the prostitutes and 451 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 6: get the vote. 452 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 7: I can. 453 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 6: So when you get a group of people and you 454 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 6: speak the language, speak to the people of the language 455 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 6: and which they understand. Is not always necessary to have 456 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 6: that particular instance, that money substance to make sure that 457 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 6: you have a bounce, because then it doesn't become more gan. 458 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 6: We run organic campaigns like we ran organic campaigns for 459 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 6: peace in our community and bought of violence down by 460 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 6: ninety percent. And one of the things that I want 461 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 6: to introduce you to too, Paul, is a concept that 462 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 6: my friend Daou and I Sharell's came up with that 463 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 6: that we fill with definitely captivate their imagination of the 464 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 6: American people and others. I mean, if Mondani did it 465 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 6: in New York City being a Muslim and just saying 466 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 6: yes to everything, that's not a problem. And as far 467 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 6: as mister Trump is concerned, you know, it's mine on mine, 468 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 6: O what us. I'm a man, he's a man. And 469 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 6: that same dude just to be in my parents' house 470 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 6: asking for cash back in the days, and that's another story. 471 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 6: But when you deal with a person like a Donald Trump, 472 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 6: who's got to look that dude right in his eyes 473 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 6: and just straight up to tell him, look here, man, 474 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 6: I have a plan for the city of Los Angeles. 475 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 6: Give us enough time to get it together to present 476 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 6: it to you and your administration. See if you're with it. 477 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 6: We wouldn't be bullied, but we would use a different 478 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 6: form of communication. We would be more standing on our 479 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 6: square and looking him in his eyes and telling him 480 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 6: what we want to do, because he can't tell us 481 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 6: what to do. 482 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 8: We're the people people got you. 483 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: Thirty minutes after top of that family just waking up, 484 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: I guess it's really expelling me because don't own gang 485 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: interventions in Los Angeles. So we're doing hypotheticals this morning. 486 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: You know, what would he do if he had the 487 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: chance to run a city, run the country? How would 488 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: how would it differ from being just a brother from 489 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: the streets. How would it differ? 490 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 3: How can you do it? 491 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 8: Can it? 492 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: Can it make it possible? Can can you do without money? 493 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: Can you get the street folks that you help? He 494 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: talked about the drug dealers, the prostitutes, the people you've 495 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: got out of jail. The people first, if they can vote, 496 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: that's the other thing. And will they vote, that's the 497 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: other issue too, Millie. So tell me what kind of 498 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: conversation you would have to convince, say, a convicted drug 499 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: dealer who's out and he just happen to be out, 500 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: Why should I? He's going to say, well, brother Malik, 501 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: why should I vote for you? How are you going 502 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: to change my life? What would you tell it? 503 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 6: Well, I'm not into changing your life. What I'm into 504 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 6: doing is secure in the future, for your future, for 505 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 6: your children and your future children. My position is termed 506 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 6: just getting in the streets to vote is to let 507 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 6: them know that. For example, Karen Bass is pulling at 508 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 6: what forty percent and there's a billion dollar depth is 509 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 6: that involved? We have to figure out how to include 510 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 6: them into the process of fixing the situation, and they 511 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 6: can play up a major role in it. Communities have 512 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 6: to be embraced and have to be rewarded for their 513 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 6: good deeds. If you have a community that has zero 514 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 6: sanitation issues and zero crime, then that neighborhood needs to 515 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 6: be rewarded for that and it needs to show. It 516 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 6: can't show in just conversation or one big collective. We 517 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 6: fix one community and then the city takes credit for 518 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 6: it and apply it to the whole city as if 519 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 6: the whole thing has been fixed. We need to start 520 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 6: with the issues that we have. For example, there's smashing, grabs, 521 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 6: the home invasions. One of the things I would do 522 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 6: is to secure the people in the valley or assure 523 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 6: them that we're going to get these brothers out of 524 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 6: the yard because he have gun, will travel. But nothing 525 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 6: beats a gun like a job. And once you get 526 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 6: to talk them to these brothers and sisters in the 527 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 6: streets and get these young people to do the gang 528 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 6: prevention instead of having the cast of are forty and 529 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 6: fifty years old. You have to tap into these young 530 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 6: cats in the streets and make them cybersecurity officers, give 531 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 6: them the opportunity to do some things on the platform 532 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 6: that will allow them to say, you know what, I'll 533 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 6: hope for him because I am them. The problems that 534 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 6: I want solve call is the problems that I do 535 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 6: with every day as a human being. And I feel 536 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 6: I can be the best candidate for that because I 537 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 6: speak the language of the people, and I have no 538 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 6: affiliation with those who have been successful what they're doing 539 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 6: right now in politics. 540 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: All right, twenty To get away from the top of that, 541 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: we're discussing hypotheticals with brother Malik spelling. Malik is a 542 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: gang and vanagers in Los Angeles, and the question is 543 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: do you think a person, a street person who is 544 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: not you know, it's not a seasoned politician, can win 545 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: a race in this country. I have doubts about it. 546 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: Malik says he can happen. He says, you could appeal 547 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: to the street people because and also the suburbanites will 548 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: support him because he's going to control make sure they're 549 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: not going to be in an attack. What are your thoughts? 550 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: Family eight hundred four or five zero, seventy eight seventy. 551 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: If you see brother Daoud has joined us. He's out 552 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: in l A's online too, Brother Daoud. Do you think 553 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: Malik would stand a good chance if he decides to 554 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: run for marriage, runs for Congress or do you think 555 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: the people on the streets, at the street level will 556 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: come out and decide, well, let's get involved because one 557 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: of our guys are running. How do you think that 558 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: would work out? 559 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 4: I wanted to call I thank you for the opportunity, 560 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 4: and I think the city is ready for a change, 561 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 4: and I think that Malik is probably one of the 562 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 4: best qualified person for the for the position of them here. 563 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 4: A lot of times we look at politics and we 564 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 4: look at, you know, what it takes for an individual 565 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 4: to run a big city like Los Angeles, and just 566 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 4: historically looking at it is always, you know, a Democrat 567 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 4: or Republican somewhere going to a Republican party, are the 568 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 4: money issue and all these things. I think that today, 569 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 4: based upon the lower Vuler, is that a lot of 570 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 4: these traditional ways of voting and getting people in office 571 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 4: is now dying and there's a great disconnect, you know, 572 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 4: from politics because of the lack of trust and all 573 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 4: these institutions that's been you know, claiming to make the 574 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 4: lives better for residents in the city of Los Angeles, 575 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 4: and I mean there's been a lot of promises and 576 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 4: a lot of failures, you know, the majority of failures. 577 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 4: So I think that Malik, you know, bringing in a 578 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 4: different energy, a different hoping, of different different motivation to 579 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 4: have people come to the post because Malik is someone 580 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 4: that we can help hold accountable. A lot of times, 581 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 4: a lot of these big name politicians and big money 582 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 4: machines that's behind these politicians has a has a total disconnect. 583 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 4: And we were living in a big city of Los 584 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 4: Angeles when we got over four million people, and I 585 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 4: mean when you're looking at the voter turnout, a lot 586 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 4: of these candidates are barely reaching half I mean, not 587 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 4: even half the population. And I think that Maligue have 588 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 4: the ability to cross over to a lot of different 589 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 4: groups of people in the city that would like to 590 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 4: hear his message and hear his vision, and especially as 591 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 4: we arrive upon the Olympics, I think Maliku has stands 592 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 4: a better chance than any other candidate in this race 593 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 4: based upon his historical services work. It's organizing and like 594 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 4: I say, it's just having a hope of someone new, 595 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 4: someone that we can hold accountable. We can't hold a 596 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 4: carp as accountable. You know, we've just seen the last 597 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 4: four years, and I mean she has felled tremendously, you know, 598 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 4: with the fires, with public safety and with this whole 599 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 4: thing and this battle with immigration and with the administration 600 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 4: costing millions of dollars to flow into the consisit to 601 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 4: the city because for her hard stance and her political 602 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 4: party stance against under Trump administration. I think that just 603 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 4: like like Malik was mentioned, and the Mandani fever that 604 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 4: took place in New York is because of you know, 605 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 4: the people are sick and tired of this politics as 606 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 4: to where it is because it's not getting the job done. 607 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 4: Unemployment in la is high amongst them. 608 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: Let me tell them here for a second, because we'll 609 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: come up on a berry. But man, Donnie was a 610 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: seasoned politician, you know he's and this is where the 611 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: question I'm asking you, brother Malik and Dalwood, if a 612 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: person from the street, just just an average guy, you know, 613 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: brothers just says, Okay, I want to make a difference. 614 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: So I want to make a change. Vote for me, 615 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: and you don't know how this because it's a system. 616 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't know how the system works. Can they make 617 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: it happen? Can it happen? Or just your other than 618 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: your thoughts and your dreams and your wishes in practicality, 619 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: can you make it happen? You're a street guy, can 620 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: you make it happen? That's my question, your thoughts real quick. 621 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 7: I think you can make it happen. 622 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 8: Like I say, he crosses over. 623 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 4: Malika is a resident, a long term resident in the 624 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 4: city of Los Angeles. As a matter of fact, all 625 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 4: the politicians who seek elections come to the community. And 626 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 4: right now Karen bass is polling. Her polling numbers are very, 627 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 4: very very low. That means that people is looking for 628 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 4: a change. She's they're not touching the court issues that 629 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 4: are face that faces, you know, the residents city, residents 630 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 4: of Los Angeles, they're not touching it. Unemployment races high, 631 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 4: homeless is still high. The city look like a piece 632 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 4: of trash. I mean, she's not addressing anything other than. 633 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: Right, right, we get all of that, but you can't 634 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: win by by degrading the person who was in office, 635 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: because everybody sees that. In fact, all I thought, because 636 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: we got to check the news. But there was another 637 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: candidate who expressed wanted to become we'll deal with La now, 638 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: I want to become mayor of Los Angeles. And they 639 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: asked her platform and they chewed her up. She was 640 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: on TV and she says she should forth for me 641 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: because I'm a single mom. It's not going to happen 642 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: like that. So hold your thought right there, brother, and 643 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: my leak stayed with us. This is an interesting concept 644 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: here can a street person win an elected office? What 645 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: are your thoughts? Family, you want to join this conversation, 646 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: reach out to us at eight hundred and four or 647 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your 648 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: phone calls if we check the news, sports and weather 649 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: in our look. Family, Thanks for starting on Wednesday. Well 650 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: this is a hump day. That means we're halfway through 651 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: the work week. Our guests right now is Malik spelling 652 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: Melik is from the streets. It's a gang intervention. It's 653 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: also a journalist as well. He's worked on all the 654 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: platforms and he works with our young people. And we're 655 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,719 Speaker 1: doing a hypothetical what would you do if you decide 656 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: you want to take over a city? Or the county 657 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: or just run for elected office. I know folks in Washington, 658 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: d C. We've got some people in Washington see probably 659 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: think of the same thing now that Mayor Bowser says 660 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: she's not running for reelection. Ken, is it? Is it practical? 661 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: Can you really make that dream come true? What are 662 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: your thoughts? Eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight 663 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: seventy six. We love to hear from you before we 664 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: go back to Milik and Brother dal Hudho's checked in. 665 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: Let me just remind you. Coming up later this morning, 666 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: we'll speak with economists doctor Julian Malveaux also Temple University 667 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: Africology professor and now Doubel join us and wealth Builder 668 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: wealth coach j R. Fendrick will be here. And tomorrow 669 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna speak with Africana history professor, doctor Manu and 670 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: Panel join us from Contra Costa College. Talk about Martin 671 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: Luther King. So if you are in Baltimore, make sure 672 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: you keep you ready, locked and tight on ten ten 673 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: WLB or if you're in the DMV family area around 674 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: fourteen fifty wol So when we left were speaking with 675 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: brother Dawoods joined us now to get in this conversation 676 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: about becoming an elected official if you're just a street guy, 677 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: or you don't have to be a street guy, if 678 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: you're not somebody who's got you know, so sort of 679 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: popular place. The game plays the political game because it 680 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: is a game. Family, it's a game, so do I'll 681 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: let you fit. My question to you is is it 682 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: practical to do it without the money people behind you? 683 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it would definitely be impossible for out the 684 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 4: money people behind you. So we've been speaking with a 685 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 4: lot of people. That's one of the issues that we 686 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 4: talked about because I think Maleague is a likable candidate 687 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 4: and I think that people is looking for an option 688 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 4: to care bands and right now, if you look at 689 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 4: the race, there's not too many favorable people. 690 00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 8: That's really going against us. 691 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,959 Speaker 4: She claimed to have a straight path, but there's troubles 692 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 4: in the water. So you know, I think that Malik 693 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 4: with a strong platform to address the social needs such 694 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 4: as public safety and housings. As you come on to 695 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 4: this whole Olympic thing is I think that people is 696 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 4: really looking for people that's considered serious, and I think 697 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 4: that Malik is one of those persons that could be 698 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 4: a serious candidate and the lackful candidate. And I think 699 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 4: that people Malie could raise the necessary funds to defeat 700 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 4: of Karen. 701 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: Again bowing it down to Canada. People siting know the weaknesses. 702 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: And there's other people out there. As I mentioned, there 703 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: was a there's a woman who declared herself and I 704 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: can't think of her name right now, Democratic Socialist and 705 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: she says she was challenging. I think she's still in 706 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: the race to challenge Karen Bass and she did her 707 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: first interview and they just totally destroyed it. She ended 708 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: up saying that the people should vote for her because 709 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: she's a single mom, as an agent sister who did so. 710 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: It's it's more of a task. And that's what I'm 711 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: sharing with Milik here. It's not easy just coming you 712 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: don't have that background because in the game of politics, 713 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: and this is the coldest, dirtiest game is played, because 714 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: it's always you got to get Donald Trump plays it 715 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: well because you understand it's a business, it's transactional. You 716 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: have to trade off some things. Could you do that, Milik? 717 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: The question to you, somebody says I'll vote for you 718 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: if you do this for me, would you be able to. 719 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 9: Do that. 720 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 10: Well. 721 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 6: First and foremost, politics and politicians is nothing but a gang. 722 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 6: And I have forty years of service dealing with gang activity. 723 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 6: And when you're an independent candidate like myself and you're 724 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 6: reaching across the line, you have to remember that I 725 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 6: don't need I don't necessarily just need money because my 726 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 6: sincerities are my credentials. What I need to do is 727 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 6: addrest the issues that are already in front of us 728 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 6: that are costing us these tax dollars and putting people 729 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 6: in these empoverse situations. How is it possible that we 730 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 6: have two to three years of energies that have tried 731 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 6: to fix this homeless situation and we've given them six 732 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 6: hundred and nine point seven billion million dollars for this 733 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 6: year twenty twenty three with no results, and then the 734 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 6: results don't start coming in the form of housing until 735 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,959 Speaker 6: the Olympics is on its way here for those people 736 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 6: to occupy that space. So one of the things that 737 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 6: I would do is address that issue and cut that 738 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 6: down half. Due to the fact that the government in Washington, 739 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 6: DC went from six hundred and nine million dollars to 740 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 6: six hundred and thirty seven million dollars for this situation, 741 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 6: not to mention the fact call that five hundred and 742 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 6: thirty five million dollars from Measure A. I don't know 743 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 6: if you've stayed with that or not. Well, that particular 744 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 6: measure and also Measure H was one of the measures 745 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 6: that was here to help the homeless. And when you 746 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 6: start talking about cutting taxes and cutting budgets for people 747 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 6: that have already put the money in place, that gets 748 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 6: the cent of the of the cent of the smell 749 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 6: up to the people that want to be involved with 750 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 6: your mayor's situation in terms of getting you the votes 751 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 6: that you need, getting you the support that you need, 752 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,439 Speaker 6: and also getting you the necessary currency to make become 753 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 6: the mayor, because see, I'm not viable. You can't purchase me. 754 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 6: My sincerities are my credentials. And I can see here 755 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 6: clearly that some of the issues that we need to 756 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 6: address is very simple to fix. For example, we have 757 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 6: over ten thousand females in prison that costs US millions 758 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 6: of dollars. We have to look at what's in front 759 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 6: of us before we start looking behind us. 760 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me jump in here a ten away from 761 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: the top down, And I like that you start now 762 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: to talk about the issues. You talked about the incarceration issue, 763 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: you talked about the housing problem, and that's a problem. 764 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: It's all across the country. In fact, we did address 765 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: that yesterday. The homeless situation, especially in Baltimore and in 766 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: all major cities, we see that there's a homeless problem. 767 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: There's a homeless problem in la as well. But how 768 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: would you solve the homeless problem? Though, Malik, you a 769 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: some tangible ideas that would you would help these people 770 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: get off the streets and it wouldn't impact it wouldn't 771 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: cost the tax bay all money. Because this is what 772 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: the politicians in office are now are wrestling with. There's 773 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: a homeless problem. And if it was a quick fix, 774 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: that it fixed it a long time ago, but they 775 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: kick the can down the road, mostly because the homeless 776 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: folks can't vote or don't vote, so they're not the 777 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: top priorities, you know, just an inconvenience to many of 778 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: these politicians. What would you do differently? 779 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 6: Well, first thing I would do, Carl, is assess the 780 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 6: situation for what it's work by using wrap around services 781 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 6: from the City of Los Angeles and any other surrounding 782 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 6: county contributor to make sure that we cut back on 783 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,720 Speaker 6: some of the issues that help that hurt the homeless, 784 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 6: like their health things of that nature. If people do 785 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 6: the math on some of the emergency business that they 786 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 6: have to do person just from being homeless, that goes 787 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 6: almost thirty seven hundred dollars per person. Oftentimes it's eighteen 788 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 6: thousand dollars a year and they have to stay for 789 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 6: several nights and it's going to cost even more to 790 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 6: the taxpayer. So you have to support the ideas that 791 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 6: are in place and the problems that are in place, 792 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 6: like permanent housing, and you know, the annual spending on 793 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 6: person has to be reduced. You know, the jail situation 794 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 6: has to be addressed in terms of the mental health, 795 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 6: how we deal with that. You know, the youth when 796 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 6: they're coming. 797 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 8: Out of prison. 798 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 6: When I was wanting the youth of coming out to 799 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 6: the youth authority, what are they going to do when 800 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 6: they come out of high school? I would ask a 801 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 6: person like Tesla or In and Out Burgers, these corporations 802 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 6: that are moving out of Los Angeles because of the 803 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 6: high taxes and gas to come back and adapt two 804 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 6: or three schools to where we can have a transition 805 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 6: from high school to being alongshoreman from high school, to 806 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 6: being a share from high school, to being whatever it 807 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 6: is that you want to do, and keep them away. 808 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 8: From the liquor store. 809 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 6: One of the other things that I would do is 810 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 6: first clean up our community, because we can't put on 811 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 6: clean clothes that out washing our ass. So we got 812 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 6: to get these liquor stores that I dressed earlier to 813 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 6: get involved with keeping the young people out of there 814 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 6: and putting better influences. But then also call these other 815 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 6: people to the table, like Vond's and Routes and all 816 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 6: these big supermarkets and publics and tell them that we 817 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 6: need family friendly community markets in these areas convenient because 818 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 6: they're food deserts that we need to address. So once 819 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 6: we start addressing the issues and speaking on the issues 820 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 6: that people that are in these high places never addressed 821 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 6: because what they talk about is whatever they are told 822 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 6: by their staff that day that's important to them and 823 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 6: their constituents in terms of him before them becoming elected 824 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 6: against I don't operate like that. My campaign is more 825 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 6: organic and it's sincerely from the heart, and I'm really 826 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 6: here just to protect the truth because if you look 827 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 6: at the approach that they're using to become these mayors 828 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 6: or whatever. It's all based on our struggles homelessness, lack 829 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 6: of health care, food, deserts. You have to talk to 830 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 6: the people in which the language wish stay understand, and 831 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 6: I'm going to call them the spirit of Bumpy Johnson, 832 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 6: so that I can organize my community such a way 833 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 6: that we can protect one another and be prosperous within 834 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 6: the first thirty days. As far as the homeless is concerned, 835 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 6: I would use all those wrap around services in one day. 836 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 6: I would take the police department instead of having them 837 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 6: ride around the cars. You guys would be in the community. 838 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 6: You don't have to do a rest, but you're going 839 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 6: to be in the community. I would take the meeter 840 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 6: people and make sure that they control the traffic, and 841 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 6: then I would become one of those people that create 842 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 6: jobs for cybersecurity from young people, things that they like 843 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 6: to do. Put art in schools, put the mechanics back 844 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 6: in schools. Some much kids don't even how to use 845 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 6: a pencil. You have to put these things in schools 846 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 6: that allow them to transition from one point to the next. 847 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 6: And then we have to address the issue of our 848 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 6: youth that are being putashed in these foster care places 849 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,720 Speaker 6: because that's costamillions of dollars. So once you start getting 850 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 6: the data and then showing these people how we can 851 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 6: cut costs and then have results in an immediate fashion, 852 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 6: we don't need a bunch of malaukey told to us. 853 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,439 Speaker 6: We need a real candidate that can get the job done. 854 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 6: And my slogan if I ran for candidate would be 855 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 6: I've had enough. I'm the stone that the builders rejected. 856 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: The corner side, setting away from the top. Let me 857 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: share this with you. Though, Mandannie ran on the same 858 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: thing about afford to build it, but he knew the system, 859 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: he knew the game because he wasn't elected official. You 860 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: coming down just off the streets. One of the things 861 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: that you probably need to read is doctor Claude Anderson's 862 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: book Black Labor, White Wealth, and also his follow book Paranomics, 863 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: because he will tell you that these systems that the 864 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: people that you're trying to help, the homeless, the risk children, 865 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,760 Speaker 1: and the hungry and the needy, they're there for a reason. 866 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: He'll show you that somebody's got to win and somebody's 867 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: got to lose. Those are really they don't want me 868 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: to be living homeless up because they like it and 869 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: getting trouble all the time. But the people that you 870 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: were focusing on, those are the people that are the 871 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: people who win elections. They don't care about because the 872 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: people who they make money. There was all the money 873 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: making we talk about transactional there's a money making issue there. 874 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,439 Speaker 1: They make money of people being homeless and make money 875 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: at risk children. They make money building these prisons in 876 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: these jails and come up with all these ideas to 877 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: keep that's that's and those are the ones who donate 878 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: to the politicians to make sure that the system doesn't change. 879 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 1: I said all of that to say this, how when 880 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: they come to you and say, Malik, we need to 881 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: build another jail, we need to be another prison these 882 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: you know, get these folks off the street and people 883 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: and their supporters say yeah, yeah, yea. Because all they 884 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: do is cause problems. We need to get rid of them. 885 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: We got the Olympics coming up. We've seen that story before, 886 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: so we've got to get rid of these homeless people. 887 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: And we got rid of them when the Olympics it 888 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: was out there in eighty four and they sort of disappeared. 889 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: Deeck Gregor was asking what happened to the homeless people, 890 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 1: says it's the Olympics. Where are they're? 891 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 3: God? 892 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: Where they never came back for a few maybe a 893 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: few months after. So how are you gonna do it? 894 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: Because what I'm saying all this is they're hidden hand 895 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: here and they get paid to create these situations for 896 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: the people that you're trying to help. They're not going 897 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: to support you. They're going to support the other candidates. 898 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: So what are you going to do? How are you 899 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 1: going to counter that? 900 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 6: Well, first and foremost, any candidate that runs for political 901 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 6: office or public office has to come through the people. 902 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,919 Speaker 6: All roads to candidacy comes through the people. That's first 903 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 6: and foremost. We the people for the people. And when 904 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,720 Speaker 6: they ask me, how would I deal with that issue? 905 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 6: I would try to create a situation where we would 906 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 6: have communication across the board to perhaps we can take 907 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 6: some of the two point fourteen billion dollars that we 908 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 6: used for twenty twenty five or twenty twenty six LAPDS 909 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 6: budget and help them out in terms of how we're 910 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 6: going to get the homos off the streets. We would 911 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 6: take in and teach them some of the technology that 912 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 6: they need, the installation and technology that they need to 913 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 6: install in some of these police cars and then be 914 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 6: coming out in the very seats where they're spending forty 915 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 6: five point two million dollars. So there's different ways to 916 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 6: get the people off the streets. In regards to how 917 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 6: we're going to spend the money and how we're going 918 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 6: to convince the system to work for us. I could 919 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 6: give a rabbits ask about any of those people are 920 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 6: who are going to say, you know, I'm not going 921 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 6: to vote for you or I'm not going to believe 922 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 6: in you. Because if we're a machine that's already in place, 923 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,720 Speaker 6: I'm going to reach out to people like Peter Field 924 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 6: and others who have the ability to make sure that 925 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 6: both sides of the coin can be heard because he 926 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,919 Speaker 6: speaks their language. You know, you have to reach across 927 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 6: the aisles and mister Caruso or even a Karen Vass 928 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 6: for that matter. When it comes down to the city 929 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 6: budget for the jails and stuff like that, and how 930 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 6: to improve the mental health of these people that are 931 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 6: on the streets, there's already money in place for that 932 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 6: the city two point seven million dollars in place for 933 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 6: the call to improve the mental health of these individuals. 934 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 6: And there's also an opportunity for people that are getting 935 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 6: out of the county jails to move on to better 936 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 6: lives where there's twenty nine and thirty million. So once 937 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 6: you get to tapping into those types of situations and 938 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 6: asking where's the money, then you'll get different results. But 939 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 6: the main thing that I would focus on is getting 940 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 6: these ten thousand black women out of jail. 941 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: All right, all right, hold, I thought right there, Hold, 942 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: I thought right there, Melik. I'll let you expound on that, 943 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: and thank you for saying with us three minutes away 944 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: from the top there. We gotta check the trafficking weather, 945 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 1: not different cities, so we haven't done it. A hypothetical 946 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 1: here with brother Malik spelling out of LA. He's a 947 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: gang interventionis it's not about thinking about running for office? 948 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? Family? Could a street person make 949 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,479 Speaker 1: it happen? Eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy 950 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: six and well, ticket phone calls after we check the 951 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,479 Speaker 1: trafficking weather in our different cities. That's next, seeing family, 952 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 1: Thanks for starting your Wednesday with us. I guess there's 953 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: a Milik spelling. Malik is a gang interventional. It's based 954 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, and we're doing some hypotheticals here about 955 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,879 Speaker 1: the you know, running for office. Can you run from 956 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 1: an average person? Just think about, you know, just think 957 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: about I could do better than the current mayor. And 958 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: I know this situation in Washington, dc' is the same thing. 959 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: A lot of folks. They are watching it and maybe 960 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: they're going to throw their hat into the Beforemia ring 961 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: to go after run for the mayor. But this has 962 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: got a tweet I got from you from one of 963 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,879 Speaker 1: our listeners, Mi Leiku. The tweter says that every major 964 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,760 Speaker 1: city in the United States has a very secretive committee 965 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: of twenty five comprised of the uber rich, the wealthy 966 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: individuals who wheel the power behind the scenes. These are 967 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 1: the folks who decide who becomes mayor, who becomes on 968 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: the city council. As a street person, you probably don't 969 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: have access to those people. The people. Once they see 970 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: you as a credible candidate, then they'll reach out to you. 971 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: How are you going to ridge that gap there? How 972 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,720 Speaker 1: are you going to make them feel comfortable? They say, Okay, 973 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 1: I can put millions of dollars behind this person's candidate. 974 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 6: Because I would surround myself with some of the brightest 975 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 6: and smartest people in Los Angeles that know this system, 976 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 6: that respects the system, and know how to function within 977 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 6: this system. I'm not here to claim that I don't 978 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 6: know anyone or know anyone, but you would be surprised 979 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 6: at the reach that this octopus called the ghetto has 980 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 6: in regards to who we know. And I've talked to 981 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 6: people in high places that are willing to participate in 982 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 6: and let me event like this if I decide to 983 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 6: run for mayor of Los Angeles. Although we're speaking hypothetically 984 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 6: right now, but as far as our reach, our reach 985 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 6: is long bro and the marathons continues with us, and 986 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,879 Speaker 6: we have no one that we fear other than God. 987 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 6: So when we come into a situation like that, you know, 988 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 6: we deal with gang violence, the things that they talk about, poverty, housing, transportation. 989 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,320 Speaker 6: My ideas and ideologies will reflect that progressive Los Angeles 990 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 6: and New Los Angeles. The fair lost that one that 991 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 6: gives opportunities to everyone to make it safe, that would 992 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 6: be my priority. One of the things that I would 993 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 6: definitely do was to add on to the freeway system, 994 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 6: in which I would get ten miles of freeway where 995 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 6: you can have your car charges as you rode down 996 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,320 Speaker 6: and road. We have to get more innovative. We're not 997 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,359 Speaker 6: going to get into racial politics or connected politics, because 998 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 6: at the end of the day, all these systems need 999 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 6: a dish. So we're going to be that dish that 1000 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,359 Speaker 6: comes in. And no disrespect to the ladies, but we're 1001 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 6: going to be that cleansing that comes in and make 1002 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 6: sure that we protect those who voted us into office. 1003 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 6: All the people that have ran for office in the 1004 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 6: city of Los Angeles, in California and other urban cities 1005 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 6: have always leaned on the people who have been the 1006 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 6: most oppressed and has gotten no services, as Malcolm X says, 1007 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 6: representational taxation, representation, And we're going to put the stops 1008 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 6: to that because we're going to utilize what we have 1009 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 6: in our hands in order to facilitate getting us to 1010 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 6: another level, and then we'll look for more in the 1011 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 6: beginning of our success. That's the thing hiving people in 1012 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 6: high places. Carl, I've been around the blocking up a 1013 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 6: couple of alleys, and dot then played from the suite, 1014 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 6: from the streets to the swites, from the guinea to 1015 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:07,720 Speaker 6: the ghetto. 1016 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 8: Bro. 1017 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 1: All right, hold that tho right there, because we've got 1018 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,359 Speaker 1: another guess coming, but Everlasting he's calling from Alabama, has 1019 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: a comment for you. He's online for Grand Rising brother 1020 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: Everlasting round with Malik. 1021 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 7: Yes, how you doing wrong? 1022 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 11: And much respect to mister Spelman, Malie. So here's the thing. 1023 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 11: The thing that I got right quick most out of 1024 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 11: all wood he'm saying is that the fact that he 1025 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,959 Speaker 11: can't be bought. See, when you can't be bought, even 1026 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 11: the first people are supposed to be to hire ups. 1027 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 11: They may not like you, but they're going to respect you. 1028 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 11: And from the fact that you can't be bought, and 1029 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 11: so many things flow from that, Just like when he 1030 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 11: said the Bumpy Johnson aspect, Bumpy Johnson could not be bought. 1031 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 11: You had politicians, you have police commissioners, you had the mob, 1032 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 11: everybody against it. But he would not sell Hall m out. 1033 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 11: So in the fact that him not selling Hall them out, 1034 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 11: everything flowed from that. He was able to do so 1035 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,080 Speaker 11: many things for the people, you know, and even he 1036 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 11: went to war with the mob to protect carlorm So 1037 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 11: what mister Spelman is saying, you know, far as him 1038 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 11: not being bought, that's one of the main catalysts because 1039 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 11: the fact that he's not being bought. The people that 1040 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 11: you're talking about, the people with the big money, this, 1041 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 11: that whatever, they're going to eventually have to respect that 1042 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 11: because they're gonna look at him in a different light, 1043 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,479 Speaker 11: and they look at the people who can be bought, 1044 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 11: because they don't respect the people who can be bought, 1045 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 11: but they'll respect somebody like mister Spelman who cannot be bought. 1046 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 11: So I just want to I just want to take 1047 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 11: his comment and hear what this comment is about that, 1048 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 11: and much respect to your brother, and all. 1049 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: Right, real quick your response to what brother. 1050 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 6: Of the last things I said, I appreciate that, man. 1051 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,799 Speaker 6: And then the voice of my homeboy, rest in peace, 1052 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:43,959 Speaker 6: hush up truth. 1053 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 1: All right, but here's something I got a treat for 1054 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 1: you from you. Didn't never know who listens to this program. 1055 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: We've got we got some really high place the folks 1056 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,839 Speaker 1: who listen to this program, if they have a tip 1057 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,959 Speaker 1: for you, Malik. They said, there's an old saying about 1058 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Since we're doing hypothet negotiations, the people who 1059 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,879 Speaker 1: run Los Angeles belonged to the Jonathan Club. The people 1060 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 1: who own Los Angeles belong to the California Club. So 1061 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: do some research in both of those clubs if we 1062 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 1: ever think about running, do some research. Again, that's the 1063 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 1: Jonathan Club, and that's the California Club, the people who 1064 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,879 Speaker 1: own the city and the people who run the city 1065 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 1: actually because the mayor doesn't really run the city, as 1066 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, just like Donald Trump doesn't run the country, 1067 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: somebody else put go into strings. So they say, do 1068 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 1: some research on those two groups, the Jonathan Club who 1069 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,320 Speaker 1: run the city actually run the city, and the California 1070 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 1: Club who owned the city. So anyway, let's before I 1071 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: let's go real quickly. Dorothy calling from la as a 1072 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,919 Speaker 1: quick comment for you. Go ahead, Dorothy, real quick. 1073 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:51,800 Speaker 12: Thank you, Grand Rising. Four days ago, Rick for Rossel, 1074 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 12: the number one opponent to Karen Bath, had decided not 1075 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 12: to run. And La Times cow Matters date that Karen 1076 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 12: Bath she'll be hard. 1077 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 13: To stumble out. 1078 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 12: She's never her ratings are at forty five percent favorable 1079 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 12: and forty percent non approval. But they said she's going 1080 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 12: to be hard to be so being Rick Carrosso, the 1081 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 12: Republican dropped out. He felt that he couldn't beat her. 1082 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 14: What are your thoughts, Well, thank you for calling. 1083 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 6: In, and we really appreciate that. My thoughts on that 1084 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,360 Speaker 6: is I would reach across the aisles to the villian 1085 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 6: mind of mister Caruso personally in the event that I 1086 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 6: did decide to run for mayor. Some of the things 1087 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 6: concerning Karen Bath, I've never went in the streets without 1088 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 6: the confidence of winning, because we look for the worst, hope, 1089 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,279 Speaker 6: hope for the best, and look for the worst when 1090 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 6: we go into these situations. So with me coming in 1091 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 6: as a confident individual and started and Karen bad started 1092 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,279 Speaker 6: out with us doing community activism, and I also was 1093 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 6: one of the main participants to help her become a 1094 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 6: mayor of Los Angeles by hitting the pavement every day 1095 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,319 Speaker 6: for hours in and hours out and have the check 1096 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 6: stub to prove it. I know what the candidate, the 1097 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 6: constituents in the streets want, and the reason that Karen 1098 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 6: has that particular edge of them at this time with 1099 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 6: some of the things that are going on in her office, 1100 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 6: is that she utilizing the vote of us, which is 1101 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 6: the people, which is the circumstances of the people. And 1102 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 6: we have that same ingredient in our chicken as well, 1103 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 6: and that would balance the situation out because basically what 1104 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,800 Speaker 6: I'm going in there to do is to look for 1105 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 6: the worst and hope for the best, but also to 1106 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 6: protect the truth and to protect the opportunity for other 1107 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 6: people that's coming up in the future like myself, who 1108 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 6: have had these rocky roads and have walked their way 1109 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 6: through it and continue to walk their way through it 1110 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 6: and pull people along the way. 1111 00:53:56,160 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: So we just ran out of time before we go, though, 1112 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,439 Speaker 1: if you're still considering it, please the person who said 1113 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 1: that was a well connected and I say, please check 1114 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: out those two groups that you mentioned. But if you 1115 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 1: are concidered, how can folks reach if they want to 1116 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 1: help you, if they want to help you, if you decide, 1117 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 1: If you do decide, please let us know first. And 1118 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: if you do, how can people help you? Is there 1119 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 1: email address, a website? Did you have that any place yet? 1120 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 6: Well, they can always reach p on Instagram of course 1121 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,280 Speaker 6: through a Malik spellman or spellman Malik. You can always 1122 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 6: inbox me on any of these social media platforms. And 1123 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 6: not to mention the fact that they can reach out 1124 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 6: to you. You know, we're coming in with the faith, 1125 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 6: and we're going to come in with the faith of 1126 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 6: a mustle seed, and we plan on trying to slave 1127 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 6: the lives with just one smooth Stone. But we're not 1128 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 6: there to just badger people or anything like that. We're 1129 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 6: here to protect it through and to get some progressive 1130 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 6: politics going in the event that our people get an 1131 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 6: opportunity to run the city in the spirit of the mayor, 1132 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 6: Tom Bradley's and others who. 1133 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 9: Have made their mark. 1134 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 6: And to the gentleman that called in, thank you very 1135 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,399 Speaker 6: kindly for articulating that for me. Because Bumpy Johnson could 1136 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 6: never be bought and sold out, and neither can I. 1137 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 1: All right, thanks Malik, and let us know again if 1138 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,800 Speaker 1: you do decide, I know you're considering. If you do decide, 1139 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,839 Speaker 1: let us know, we'll talk about it some more. Thanks 1140 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 1: for sharing your thoughts with this this morning, and thanks. 1141 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 6: For having me on your platform. I appreciate it. 1142 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 1: All right, feel family. That's I'm Elik spelling that now. 1143 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 1: My next guest has been on this program several times before, 1144 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 1: always brings a wealth of knowledge when it comes to 1145 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,760 Speaker 1: increasing wealth through active trading and investing in the stock market. 1146 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,320 Speaker 1: He's Jr. Friendwick. He's the CEO of Flip that Stock, 1147 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 1: a leading stock education and technology company that specializes in 1148 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,360 Speaker 1: teaching us how to become active investors and traders. In 1149 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 1: the stock market. Welcome back to r Welcome back to 1150 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:41,720 Speaker 1: the program. 1151 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,320 Speaker 8: Hey Carl, good morning, and thank you so much for 1152 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 8: having me on the show. 1153 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 1: A lot going on, Yeah, it's a lot going on. 1154 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,359 Speaker 1: It's really pertinent to what brother Belik is talking about, 1155 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 1: because you need you need money, you need wealth. You know, 1156 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 1: you're a wealth coach. You need to if you get 1157 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 1: into the politics, you've got to have some money. Just 1158 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 1: you know, idealism and thoughts about helping people, that's that's great, 1159 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 1: But if you don't have the money behind it, it's 1160 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 1: a problem. It's a major problem. But anyway he's considering, 1161 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 1: so a good good luck to the league. But tell 1162 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 1: us about our economy. Now, what's going on with our economy? 1163 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 1: Is it getting better? Is it getting worse? We keep 1164 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 1: hearing about these layoffs and these downsizings and these for 1165 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,839 Speaker 1: ai coming in taking away jobs, and we keep hearing 1166 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: the numbers, and Donald Trump keeps saying the economy is 1167 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 1: doing great. What's the truth? 1168 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 8: Well, you know, sometimes there's the old saying, how can 1169 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 8: you tell when a certain person in the White House 1170 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 8: is lying when they open their mouth? But aside from that, 1171 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 8: all we have to do is just look around us. 1172 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 8: Look what's happening, right, Corporations are laying off like they've 1173 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 8: never laid off before in history. Over a million jobs 1174 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 8: were cutting corporations last year. And you know, a lot 1175 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 8: of people may not realize that the quickest and the 1176 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 8: easiest way to priest profits is to and reduce expenses 1177 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 8: is to cut humans, right, because humans come with a 1178 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 8: lot of pay salaries, over time, uh, sick time and 1179 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 8: all that type stuff. So when companies have to get leaner, 1180 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 8: they cut people. Then who would have thought in our lifetime, uh, 1181 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 8: that the government would be laying off like they did 1182 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 8: last year, laying off downsize in furloughing. Right. We were taught, 1183 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 8: you know, you know, go to school, get that good 1184 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 8: job and get a good big good grades and get 1185 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 8: a good job. And if you can get that good 1186 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 8: government job, you're straight for life. Well who believes that now? 1187 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 8: And then you take AI and look at how many 1188 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 8: jobs AI is is going to take and is already taking. 1189 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 8: And a lot of people maybe in the dark about 1190 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 8: how big AI is, and and uh, you know what's coming. 1191 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 8: So you're in the middle of a storm. Corporations laying off, government, 1192 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 8: laying off AI taking jobs. If your only source of 1193 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 8: income is your job. You were at maximum risk, a 1194 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 8: maximum risk. So it doesn't matter what somebody is saying, 1195 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 8: any politicians. All we got to do is just look 1196 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 8: around at at what is actually happening. Food prices going 1197 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 8: up and things like that. So let me jump in. 1198 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 1: Here at ji for a second, here at fourteen hath 1199 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 1: a time. Donald Trump just yes, yesterday, just said, you 1200 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 1: know those furloughs that's coming work as a furloughed, many 1201 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: of them have gotten better jobs, better paying jobs. And 1202 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 1: many of those people who got that go were sisters, 1203 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 1: and you know, impacted in a disproportionate in black women. 1204 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 1: And is there any truth do you know if there's 1205 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 1: any truth to that? Because I say stuff it was no, no, 1206 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, nothing to back it up. But he's saying 1207 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 1: that many of those who lost their jobs now they 1208 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 1: got better jobs. 1209 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 8: What say you, well, yeah, what else would he say? Right? 1210 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 8: I mean, there's never a time where a mistake has 1211 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 8: been made or it's always many people. Where do you 1212 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,800 Speaker 8: know hundreds of thousands of government workers go and get 1213 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,200 Speaker 8: better jobs when they've been used to working for the 1214 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:16,640 Speaker 8: government for years, some decades, Where are they going? I 1215 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 8: have in contact with a lot of people who work 1216 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 8: for the government who've been laid off or management positions 1217 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 8: who call me and says, gut wrenching, I have to 1218 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 8: go in here and lay folks off. Where are these 1219 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,439 Speaker 8: folks going to go and make the type of money, 1220 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,120 Speaker 8: get the type of benefits that they were getting. Then 1221 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 8: you've got as high as six hundred thousand black women 1222 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,400 Speaker 8: who've been let go. Where are all these people going 1223 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 8: and getting these better jobs that they're talking about and 1224 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 8: doing it, you know, within less than a year's time. 1225 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 8: So again, all we have to do is look at 1226 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 8: what's around us and just read the headlines. I mean, 1227 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 8: the headlines are staggering out here. There's a headline that's 1228 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 8: why three hundred thousand black women pushed out of the workforce. 1229 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 8: Another headline, layoffs are piling up, raising raising worker anxiety. 1230 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 8: And they're listing all the companies Amazon, Target Ups, Intel, 1231 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 8: Microsoft PNG. Now, I mean, the list goes on and 1232 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 8: on and on about these companies Verizon that are laying off. 1233 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 8: And there is a gentleman that many of your listeners 1234 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,080 Speaker 8: may be familiar with. His name is Robert Kissaki. He's 1235 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,880 Speaker 8: a best selling author of Rich Dad, Poor Dad and 1236 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 8: another book called cash Flow Quadrants, and he's come out 1237 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 8: with the warning saying massive unemployment is around the corner 1238 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 8: and it will be caused by the biggest change in history. 1239 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 1: We have to take a short break. I'm glad you 1240 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: mentioned Keasaki. I read I read his book, but he's 1241 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,480 Speaker 1: a list of a Trump stun So you know when 1242 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 1: we come back from the break, he's one of those 1243 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 1: who supported Donald Trump and now he's wondering us of 1244 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 1: what Donald Trump is doing. Explain that for us when 1245 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,440 Speaker 1: we get back. Finally, you two can get in on 1246 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 1: this conversation. I guess he is a wealth coach. He's 1247 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 1: out there on Walshon. His name is jaf Fenwick. His 1248 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 1: company's called Flip that Stock. You want now how to 1249 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 1: make some money? Reach out to us at eight hundred 1250 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 1: and four to five zero seventy eight seventy six and 1251 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 1: we'll take your phone calls next and grind Rising family, 1252 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 1: thanks for starting your Wednesday with us. Twenty minutes after 1253 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,200 Speaker 1: the top day with our guest wealth coach and Jay Ourwick, 1254 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,680 Speaker 1: Jay our family from Flip that Stock. And before we left, 1255 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 1: we were talking about Robert Kyle Saki's books and I've 1256 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 1: read a couple of his books and inspirational books. He's 1257 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 1: talking about wealth building and he was and he was 1258 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 1: on the Trump train, as you know, Jr. And now 1259 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 1: he's blowing to the whistling and wanting that this train's 1260 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 1: about to crash. You what's going on here? 1261 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,600 Speaker 8: Well, yeah, two things can be true at the same time. 1262 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 8: He can be on the Trump train and still be 1263 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 8: telling the truth about what's going on and what's happening 1264 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,080 Speaker 8: with the economy and where the economy is going to go. 1265 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 8: And so I choose to just look at what is 1266 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 8: actually happening around me as we look in the news, 1267 01:01:53,160 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 8: and probably everybody has a relative, someone they know, a friend, 1268 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:06,040 Speaker 8: or themselves who's been impacted by all the layoffs, cuts 1269 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,360 Speaker 8: and downsizing and firings and things like that nature. So 1270 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 8: I look at a plethora of different sources and things 1271 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 8: like that, and then I make my own decision. In 1272 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 8: addition to know how many people are calling me every 1273 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,280 Speaker 8: single week I lost my job. I'm scared I'm going 1274 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 8: to lose my job. WI should I do? And the 1275 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 8: thing we don't want to do is go into a 1276 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 8: panic and be waiting until the last minute to plan 1277 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 8: for different things. But yeah, two things can be true 1278 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 8: at the same time. And what he's talking about, from 1279 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,920 Speaker 8: everything I'm seeing, is absolutely true. It's only going to 1280 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,560 Speaker 8: get worse as we go into twenty twenty six with 1281 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,960 Speaker 8: the economy as far as people's jobs are concerned. And 1282 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 8: if you think about it, when you look at the inauguration, 1283 01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 8: right for the first time in history, if you go 1284 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 8: back and you look at video footage of the inauguration, 1285 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 8: the very first row of seats was all billionaires. They're 1286 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 8: the heads of these companies. Their concern is their wealth 1287 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 8: and how to protect that and how to keep control 1288 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,400 Speaker 8: of that. And so all we got to do is 1289 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 8: just look around us, right, just look around us and 1290 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 8: take it in and then be critical. Thinkers. Don't sit 1291 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 8: up here and just say, you know, I'm going to 1292 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,040 Speaker 8: stay on this hamster wheel and everything is going to 1293 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:31,800 Speaker 8: be all right, and this, that and the other. A 1294 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 8: lot of people are thinking that are just getting slaughtered 1295 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,280 Speaker 8: and we don't want to be on that train. 1296 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 1: All right, So what's the new way now with the 1297 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:45,120 Speaker 1: old system of making money financial success? Since it's broken now, 1298 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 1: don't you know. We can allude that through either Donald 1299 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,440 Speaker 1: Trump or his policies. But So what's the new formula 1300 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 1: for financial success? What should we be doing right now? 1301 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 8: Right? Well, let's talk about what the old formula was. 1302 01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 8: And so the old formula was, and probably most of us, 1303 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 8: including myself, we're taught, hey, go to school, get good grades, 1304 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 8: and get that good secure job, in particular the government job. Right, 1305 01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,920 Speaker 8: but how many of us really believe that still works. 1306 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:19,440 Speaker 8: The new formula is buy assets, create residual income, and 1307 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:23,240 Speaker 8: build wealth. Now this isn't a new formula to the wealthy. 1308 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,760 Speaker 8: That's how they got their wealth. Buying assets, creating residual income, 1309 01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,360 Speaker 8: and building wealth. It's new to a lot of it. 1310 01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,200 Speaker 1: And hold that thought right there, Hold that thought right there. 1311 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,280 Speaker 1: Let's start at the first part. Buy assets. If you 1312 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 1: live in check to check jail, or how can you 1313 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 1: buy anything? The other thing? You think you can buy 1314 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,160 Speaker 1: food or hopefully pay your rent. You don't have a job. 1315 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 1: So how can we how can we cross that first hurdle? 1316 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 1: How do we do that? 1317 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 8: Well, let's let's see what the asset is. An asset 1318 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:56,920 Speaker 8: is something that you and uh put money into and 1319 01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,520 Speaker 8: it has an opportunity to grow that money bring back 1320 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 8: more money. In other words, I always say send a 1321 01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 8: dollar out and tell that dollar. Come back with a 1322 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 8: dollar and a quarter, come back with a nickel, come 1323 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 8: back with something right now. It's always amazed me how 1324 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 8: we say we don't have the money. But over the 1325 01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,240 Speaker 8: holiday season I did a research experiment where I went 1326 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,880 Speaker 8: into the mall and Carl, what do you think I 1327 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:23,880 Speaker 8: saw when I went in the mall Black Friday? And 1328 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,480 Speaker 8: over the holidays, I saw us in the mall buying 1329 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 8: up everything. So when we say we don't have money, 1330 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,400 Speaker 8: that's a hard pill to swallow. We have money to 1331 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 8: put in what we want to put in. Right, we 1332 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,920 Speaker 8: have to start shifting some of that money. It doesn't 1333 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,720 Speaker 8: matter to start as low. And one of the best 1334 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,320 Speaker 8: places to start, as you know, is a stock market. 1335 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,840 Speaker 8: And so that's an asset you can buy ownership, and 1336 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 8: companies a slice of ownership. And just like when you 1337 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,440 Speaker 8: go into a store, say you went into Walmart, and 1338 01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,920 Speaker 8: they have things in Walmart you could buy for a 1339 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 8: few dollars, and they have things at Walware that costs 1340 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,040 Speaker 8: hundreds of dollars and maybe even thousands of dollars. That's 1341 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 8: how the stock market is. It's the biggest store. You 1342 01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 8: can go in there and find different by different slices 1343 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 8: of companies and get started. The example is I'm not 1344 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 8: recommending this company. I'm using this as an example. Talking 1345 01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,200 Speaker 8: to a gentleman. He said, man, the stock market. You 1346 01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,240 Speaker 8: got to have all this money, you got to be rich, 1347 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 8: you got this all this is nonsense. He didn't know 1348 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,000 Speaker 8: what he's talking about. I said, have you ever heard 1349 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 8: of this company called Ford? Multi billion dollar company? And 1350 01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 8: he said yeah. I said, how much do you think 1351 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,280 Speaker 8: a slice of ownership and forward costs? He said, I 1352 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,000 Speaker 8: don't know. It's got to be at least, you know, 1353 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:43,840 Speaker 8: one thousand dollars. And because that's a billion dollar company, 1354 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,280 Speaker 8: a slice of ownership and Ford cost thirteen dollars and 1355 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:52,680 Speaker 8: twenty eight cents as of yesterday, thirteen dollars twenty cents. Again, 1356 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:56,920 Speaker 8: I'm not recommending for it. I'm making the point that 1357 01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 8: stocks come in all different price ranges. You can get 1358 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:04,040 Speaker 8: started with whatever you have and you start little and 1359 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 8: you just go and go and grow by by doing 1360 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,360 Speaker 8: a little at a time. So I'm not buying this 1361 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,320 Speaker 8: thing that we don't have money. We have money. We 1362 01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,160 Speaker 8: have money, you know at African American Commity. 1363 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,840 Speaker 1: You're right, but do we have that discretionary I'm sorry 1364 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,920 Speaker 1: to talk over you and jail a twenty seven a 1365 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,360 Speaker 1: half of teller, But do we have that discretionary income 1366 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 1: that we can go because people said you when you 1367 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:27,840 Speaker 1: tell people about the stop market, you can make money 1368 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,840 Speaker 1: in the stop market, but because you can also lose 1369 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 1: money as well. 1370 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:36,360 Speaker 8: Yes, absolutely. And this is very important to understand because 1371 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,440 Speaker 8: you know, there's so much misinformation out here, in particular 1372 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 8: on social media where people are hawking everything and it's saying, 1373 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,240 Speaker 8: you know, if you get this course and you get 1374 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,280 Speaker 8: this software, you get this, you know you're going to 1375 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,640 Speaker 8: be a millionaire overnight and all this stuff and all 1376 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:57,160 Speaker 8: of this is nonsense. Right, as with anything, Carl right, 1377 01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,560 Speaker 8: tell me if I'm telling the truth, you have to 1378 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 8: get edge. You have to have the right tools, the 1379 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 8: right resources, the right mentoring and coaching. Take the stock 1380 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,680 Speaker 8: market out of it. That's would be a successful anything. 1381 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 8: And then you still will have setbacks. So when you 1382 01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,200 Speaker 8: understand how the market works, there's things that you can 1383 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,360 Speaker 8: put in place. If the stock doesn't perform how you 1384 01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,680 Speaker 8: want to perform, you can click a few buttons and 1385 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,519 Speaker 8: just sell it. Within a matter of seconds. You can 1386 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:31,040 Speaker 8: automate the process to monitor your stocks. So there's all 1387 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,400 Speaker 8: kinds of ways that you can take advantage of the market. 1388 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,320 Speaker 8: There's another thing is a lot of people don't think 1389 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:40,120 Speaker 8: about this. There's an old saying the stock market is 1390 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,240 Speaker 8: the only place people run from when there's a massive sale. 1391 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:47,000 Speaker 8: Yesterday the market crashed. There's a massive sale going on. 1392 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,640 Speaker 8: So people with a wealth mindset don't run from it. 1393 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,040 Speaker 8: They say things are on sale. And if they bought 1394 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:54,519 Speaker 8: a stock and it went down, they may say, I'm 1395 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 8: gonna buy some more because it's on sale. Right, the 1396 01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:03,360 Speaker 8: market is historically overall, always gone up over time, always, 1397 01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:07,559 Speaker 8: Every historical chart has shown that the stock market historically 1398 01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,400 Speaker 8: has gone up. Now that doesn't mean every single individual stock. 1399 01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,560 Speaker 8: I'm talking about the market as a whole. And so 1400 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,160 Speaker 8: we got to get in the mindset of thinking, all right, 1401 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:22,200 Speaker 8: let me not buy into the height of uneducated. Let 1402 01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,200 Speaker 8: me look at what wealthy people do and what do 1403 01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,360 Speaker 8: they do They play in the stock market, And then 1404 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,519 Speaker 8: you got to ask yourself, well, how did they become wealthy? Right, 1405 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,759 Speaker 8: the majority of the wealth is in the stock market, 1406 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 8: So there is no situation where you lose. By getting 1407 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,760 Speaker 8: educated on the stock market and then understanding different strategies 1408 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:46,720 Speaker 8: you can use to start little by little building your 1409 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:50,320 Speaker 8: wealth up. And it's the easiest of the three big 1410 01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,800 Speaker 8: wealth builders to get started in. You've got real estate, 1411 01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,760 Speaker 8: stock market, and owning a business right no particular order. 1412 01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,040 Speaker 8: Getting involved in the stock market is the easiest to 1413 01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:00,639 Speaker 8: get started in when you know what you're doing. 1414 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:02,160 Speaker 9: And so. 1415 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:08,200 Speaker 8: We have the money, we have the time. People say, 1416 01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,879 Speaker 8: I don't have enough time. We got time for everything 1417 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,400 Speaker 8: else that we want to do, but we can't put 1418 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,439 Speaker 8: fifteen to twenty minutes a day into learning the stock 1419 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:20,200 Speaker 8: market and taking advantage of it. Because guess what, whether 1420 01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,960 Speaker 8: we do it or not, others are going to let 1421 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,280 Speaker 8: me say that again, whether we do it or not, 1422 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,639 Speaker 8: others are going to and they're going to keep increasing 1423 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 8: their wealth. And that wealth divide between the haves and 1424 01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,680 Speaker 8: have not is just going to keep on increasing and 1425 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:40,479 Speaker 8: increasing and increasing. And one of the major factors is 1426 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:45,320 Speaker 8: the stock market. Every statistic shows that people who are 1427 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 8: in the market are wealthier than those who are not. 1428 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,000 Speaker 8: And it's a massive reason for the for the wealth 1429 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:54,800 Speaker 8: gap that we have all right. 1430 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,280 Speaker 1: Hold on the right there thirty minutes. I have a 1431 01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,200 Speaker 1: top daft folks wealth coach is doing us this morning, Jay, 1432 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,720 Speaker 1: our family, he's from flip that stock. It's just this 1433 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:05,360 Speaker 1: money be made in the stock market. But Jr. You 1434 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,920 Speaker 1: know this generation, our generation, the microwave generation. He was saying. Now, 1435 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,240 Speaker 1: it's a good time because the stocks fell yesterday and 1436 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:17,240 Speaker 1: some of these stocks are a lot less attractive. But 1437 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,240 Speaker 1: people don't have a time to wait. They want to 1438 01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,240 Speaker 1: see their money accrued, you know, like yesterday. They think 1439 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,479 Speaker 1: that you know, explain that anxiety when you know your 1440 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,400 Speaker 1: money's tied up in a stock that's being devalued, it's dropping, 1441 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,720 Speaker 1: and you how long do you have to wait? That's 1442 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 1: the question you probably you've had that question posed to 1443 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,200 Speaker 1: you before. Do you have the patience to have your 1444 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,000 Speaker 1: money tied up? And do you know when the stock 1445 01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,479 Speaker 1: is going to rebound? How do you deal with those issues? 1446 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,439 Speaker 8: Well, first of all, listen to the language that you 1447 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,599 Speaker 8: use that we use. Oh my money is tied up, right, 1448 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 8: that's a negative. That's a negative connotation. Tied up, it's 1449 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,120 Speaker 8: over here, right, it's being held hostage. Right, This is 1450 01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,160 Speaker 8: a negative connotation. Those are type of things that we 1451 01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 8: think of. We live in this microwave I want to 1452 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,559 Speaker 8: right now generation. The fact of the matter is being 1453 01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:07,400 Speaker 8: good at anything is something that you do over time, 1454 01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,320 Speaker 8: and we have to get that mindset something that we 1455 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,240 Speaker 8: do over time. But the great thing about the market 1456 01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,320 Speaker 8: is that you can, literally, if you know what you're doing, 1457 01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 8: after you've been educated, you can go in and buy 1458 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,320 Speaker 8: ownership in a stock with a click of a few buttons. 1459 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,040 Speaker 8: And likewise, if you need to get your money out, 1460 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,640 Speaker 8: say you buy a stock and it takes off, Like 1461 01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:34,240 Speaker 8: during COVID a few years ago, I bought a biotech 1462 01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:39,000 Speaker 8: stock that had produced this vaccine, and I was planning 1463 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,559 Speaker 8: on holding it for years, but that thing took off. 1464 01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,240 Speaker 8: I bought it for I think it was like forty 1465 01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,840 Speaker 8: dollars a year. That thing took off and within a 1466 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,919 Speaker 8: few months it was almost at one hundred and twenty. 1467 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:50,320 Speaker 3: Dollars a year. 1468 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,280 Speaker 8: Well, Carl, with a click of a button, because I 1469 01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,560 Speaker 8: know how to do it, I can sell it and 1470 01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,559 Speaker 8: get my money out. So once we understand how all 1471 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,479 Speaker 8: this work step by step by step, we don't look 1472 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:06,760 Speaker 8: at our money being tied up. Right. You know, the 1473 01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,280 Speaker 8: stock market is one of the easiest places to get 1474 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,360 Speaker 8: money out of. So that's where a lot of people say, 1475 01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,000 Speaker 8: I'm just going to go sell some shares of my 1476 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,680 Speaker 8: stock and pay for my kids tuition, put a down 1477 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,439 Speaker 8: payment on the house. I even had a friend who 1478 01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,000 Speaker 8: opened up her medical practice by selling her shares of 1479 01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,120 Speaker 8: stock years ago. It's one of the easiest places you 1480 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,400 Speaker 8: can go have your money grow and grab it if 1481 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 8: you want to. But you've got to understand how to 1482 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,880 Speaker 8: do this and the process of doing it. And that's 1483 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,400 Speaker 8: what we specialize in and teaching people. So let's change 1484 01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,720 Speaker 8: our language and saying, oh, it's tied up and this, 1485 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,920 Speaker 8: that and the other, and let's say that's the place 1486 01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,599 Speaker 8: of opportunities, that's the place. That's the store we need 1487 01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 8: to know how to shop in. We know how to 1488 01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,400 Speaker 8: shop in all these other stores. We need to know 1489 01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,200 Speaker 8: how to shop in this market and take an advantage 1490 01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:54,639 Speaker 8: of that, because whether we do or not, the stock 1491 01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,200 Speaker 8: market is going to keep going. Others are going to 1492 01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,880 Speaker 8: keep getting in it and taking advantage of it, right, 1493 01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,559 Speaker 8: and we're just going to keep getting further and further 1494 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:03,479 Speaker 8: and further behind. 1495 01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,080 Speaker 1: Got you, hol I thought right there at twenty six 1496 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,840 Speaker 1: Away from the top, Dante's joined us, and Dante you 1497 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,160 Speaker 1: on with jur family and family. Jur family is a 1498 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,920 Speaker 1: sort of Wealth Coach. He creates a program called Flip 1499 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:17,800 Speaker 1: that Stock. It says it's easy to get into the 1500 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:21,000 Speaker 1: business and it's just what he teaches. But Dante, calling 1501 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,840 Speaker 1: from Baltimore, has a question for as online one Grand 1502 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:25,880 Speaker 1: Rising Dante question for Jr. 1503 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:28,320 Speaker 15: Grand Rising Family. 1504 01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:29,200 Speaker 7: Hey, mister Jr. 1505 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,040 Speaker 15: So, first and foremost, I want to commend you for 1506 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,000 Speaker 15: the venture that you're involved in, but I wanted to 1507 01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,240 Speaker 15: ask again. My name is Dante. I run a like 1508 01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,600 Speaker 15: Immaculate Deals when we educate our people on how to 1509 01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,800 Speaker 15: get luxury items at hotel prices. But I also have 1510 01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,160 Speaker 15: a new venture called the Triple Our Group, and we 1511 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,200 Speaker 15: just basically refer our business around to each other, Like 1512 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:50,120 Speaker 15: basically all. 1513 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 8: Of us are are hustlers. 1514 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,960 Speaker 15: We're all trying to make some money and figure out 1515 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,759 Speaker 15: new ways to do things. So in reference to your program, 1516 01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,040 Speaker 15: I went onto your website to check it out, and 1517 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:00,760 Speaker 15: I remember it was like, you know, a little bit 1518 01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:02,880 Speaker 15: more costly than what I could afford at the moment. 1519 01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,800 Speaker 15: So that's kind of why I created the Triple Og Groups. 1520 01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,120 Speaker 15: So if it's programs and subscriptions that maybe we can't 1521 01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,680 Speaker 15: afford at the moment, then we'll be able to just 1522 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:16,160 Speaker 15: let's just say ten of us from the family, the 1523 01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,080 Speaker 15: WLB family, we will put up one hundred dollars apiece 1524 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,599 Speaker 15: to be able to get your program, which might cost 1525 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,360 Speaker 15: twenty five hundred dollars. But now we got one thousand 1526 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,360 Speaker 15: dollars towards it, we bump up and get a little 1527 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,680 Speaker 15: bit more so we can hopefully be able to get 1528 01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:32,639 Speaker 15: into these subscriptions to be able to learn these amazing 1529 01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,360 Speaker 15: things that we're not being taught. And if anybody wants 1530 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,600 Speaker 15: to know why you're not being taught this stuff, just 1531 01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:41,080 Speaker 15: why they shut down the Board of education. They don't 1532 01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:42,920 Speaker 15: want to teach you this stuff. Why would they teach 1533 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,479 Speaker 15: you how to improve your life, to make your family, 1534 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,840 Speaker 15: you know what I mean better? So u's common sense 1535 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,160 Speaker 15: if you're wondering, well, why wouldn't they just teach kids 1536 01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:51,960 Speaker 15: this stuff? Because they don't care about your kids, you 1537 01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,280 Speaker 15: know what I'm saying. So anyway, but what we're trying 1538 01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,800 Speaker 15: to do is get your program. But I was just 1539 01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,519 Speaker 15: wanted to know, do you have a trial period or. 1540 01:15:59,479 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 7: Anything like that? 1541 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:01,840 Speaker 15: And I'm sorry, I'm going to track the trailer now. 1542 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,599 Speaker 15: But if we have a program that we could get 1543 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,400 Speaker 15: with you for like seven or fourteen days, so we 1544 01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,519 Speaker 15: could get the ball rolling and then buying to the 1545 01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,519 Speaker 15: program or whatever. I got five hundred towards it now 1546 01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:13,880 Speaker 15: that if we could just get in, But I know 1547 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,360 Speaker 15: it is a little costly because you're teaching somebody away 1548 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,160 Speaker 15: of life. So I just wanted to ask that is 1549 01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,679 Speaker 15: there anything that we could do with the Tripleog group, 1550 01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,800 Speaker 15: maculate whatever we can help help out when other people joining. 1551 01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:26,600 Speaker 15: But at the same time, I'm trying to learn the 1552 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,760 Speaker 15: program now, I got stops fight now, I'm trying to 1553 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:29,400 Speaker 15: click it right right. 1554 01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,479 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a short break, so I thank you 1555 01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,920 Speaker 1: for your calling, and I will let JR. Respond when 1556 01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,360 Speaker 1: we get back. We got to check the news, trafficking 1557 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,840 Speaker 1: and sports in our different cities. Family YouTube can join 1558 01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:43,679 Speaker 1: our conversation. All right, thanks, thank you, Dante. Dante calling 1559 01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,679 Speaker 1: from Baltimore. But I guess it's JR. Fanwek at. Jr's 1560 01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:50,840 Speaker 1: a wealth coach. It specializes in the stock market. He's 1561 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,040 Speaker 1: got a program called Flip that Stock. You want to 1562 01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:54,920 Speaker 1: speak to him, reach out to us at eight hundred 1563 01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll 1564 01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,280 Speaker 1: take your phone calls. As we check the news African 1565 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,240 Speaker 1: women at different cities. That's next. Thank Grand Rising family, 1566 01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 1: thanks for staying with us on this Wednesday morning with 1567 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,439 Speaker 1: our guest, the wealth builder wealth coach at j R. 1568 01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,519 Speaker 1: Fenwick Is company's called Build that Stock. He's trying to 1569 01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,840 Speaker 1: get us involved in the stock market and he's it's 1570 01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,160 Speaker 1: taking a show on the road. It's going to be 1571 01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,680 Speaker 1: in Baltimore. Sister Shina wants to find out where she's 1572 01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,559 Speaker 1: online One Grand Rising. Sister Shina, you're on with Jr. 1573 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:24,200 Speaker 13: Grand Rising. Yes, I do, because I'm thankful I'm in 1574 01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,640 Speaker 13: town this weekend. And I really think that you on 1575 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:28,320 Speaker 13: an earth angel, Brother Jr. 1576 01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:30,560 Speaker 4: With this flip these facts. 1577 01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:33,200 Speaker 13: And learn the stock market online is because we need 1578 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:34,160 Speaker 13: to shift. 1579 01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,719 Speaker 6: To the economic movement. 1580 01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:38,240 Speaker 13: It's just the answer. 1581 01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,880 Speaker 10: So where you're gonna be at, Brother, Yeah, I agree. 1582 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:48,160 Speaker 8: I appreciate that. You're absolutely right. So on Sunday, January 1583 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,519 Speaker 8: twenty fifth, from twelve thirty to two pm, I'm going 1584 01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,840 Speaker 8: to be at One Guy One Thought Center for Better Living. 1585 01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:59,760 Speaker 8: That's a thirty six oh five Coronado Road in Baltimore. 1586 01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,360 Speaker 8: We need everyone to register because seating is limited, so 1587 01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:07,519 Speaker 8: you can actually go to shop for stocks online dot com. 1588 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,680 Speaker 8: Shop for stocks online dot com and you'll see at 1589 01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,599 Speaker 8: the top it says register for our next live event, 1590 01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,280 Speaker 8: and we're just going to be sharing the information. And 1591 01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:23,200 Speaker 8: I totally agree with the caller is that, you know, marching, 1592 01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,439 Speaker 8: there's always going to be people who march and protests, 1593 01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,400 Speaker 8: but at the end of the day, that's not going 1594 01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:31,880 Speaker 8: to solve our issues in masters. We got to have 1595 01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:37,400 Speaker 8: a financial revolution, right, and we can do this ourselves, right. 1596 01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,400 Speaker 8: We can get into the market ourselves. We just have 1597 01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:43,200 Speaker 8: to learn. And we've got an incredible tour that we're doing, 1598 01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:47,160 Speaker 8: incredible guests that are coming out and helping with the tour, 1599 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,679 Speaker 8: and on top of that, we're sharing the knowledge step 1600 01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,719 Speaker 8: by step by step two missions. 1601 01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,120 Speaker 1: Because we're racing the clock here. We got doctor Doves 1602 01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:58,560 Speaker 1: on deck. We got to get to her before we 1603 01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,559 Speaker 1: do that. Though, Charles what he's calling from DC, has 1604 01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,280 Speaker 1: a question or comments online two Grand Rise. 1605 01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:11,479 Speaker 14: And Chalks Hotel Brother Carl enjoying the program. I like 1606 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,360 Speaker 14: to make a comment in the question. First, I'd like 1607 01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:19,040 Speaker 14: to say, as you're discussing stocks, Radio one just made 1608 01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,800 Speaker 14: a big announcement a few days ago. They're going to 1609 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:27,439 Speaker 14: do a reverse stock split, which I think is interesting 1610 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:31,040 Speaker 14: and people might want to look into that there, but 1611 01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:35,280 Speaker 14: they think it's effective within a couple of weeks or so. 1612 01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:37,439 Speaker 7: But they did make that big enough. 1613 01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:40,760 Speaker 14: But what I wanted to say is I listened to 1614 01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:45,760 Speaker 14: you brother, is there are many layers to the whole 1615 01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:52,519 Speaker 14: investing game, and it appears for me you're kind of 1616 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:56,120 Speaker 14: starting off in the middle. When you look at most 1617 01:19:56,160 --> 01:20:00,519 Speaker 14: of our people, they don't have basic savings checking accounts 1618 01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,680 Speaker 14: with a significant amount of money there, and so when 1619 01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,400 Speaker 14: you start telling them about buying stocks, you got to 1620 01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:12,600 Speaker 14: make sure you emphasize the volatility. Now, I believe we 1621 01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,360 Speaker 14: should be invested in the market, but I think people 1622 01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:20,040 Speaker 14: need to look into mutual funds, which removes them from 1623 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:24,519 Speaker 14: having to make the buy and sell decisions. Okay, so 1624 01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,080 Speaker 14: that's a way to go in and to participate in 1625 01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,840 Speaker 14: the growth in the market, to get your feet wet, 1626 01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,960 Speaker 14: to learn the gain and then eventually start once you 1627 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,880 Speaker 14: build up a solid foundation there, then you can start 1628 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:43,120 Speaker 14: buying stock. That's just my approach, and I could be wrong, 1629 01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:45,559 Speaker 14: and so I'll take your response off here. 1630 01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:50,479 Speaker 8: Thank you. Yeah, I appreciate your thoughts, and all the 1631 01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,280 Speaker 8: mutual fund is a basket of stocks, right, And so 1632 01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:55,560 Speaker 8: instead of buying an individual stock, you're going in and 1633 01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,560 Speaker 8: buying a basket of stocks that typically have less volatility. 1634 01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,120 Speaker 8: They also have a little slower growth over time, but 1635 01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,040 Speaker 8: you still are getting started in the stock market. I 1636 01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:08,720 Speaker 8: don't agree with the fact that you have to have 1637 01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,760 Speaker 8: a certain amount of savings before you can get into 1638 01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,200 Speaker 8: stock market. You can do both simultaneously. You can be 1639 01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,160 Speaker 8: putting something in the savings and you could be going 1640 01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:19,200 Speaker 8: into the market and whether you're buying mutual funds or 1641 01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,720 Speaker 8: buying individual stocks, right, we teach you all of that. 1642 01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,240 Speaker 8: The first thing you have to do is get educated 1643 01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,559 Speaker 8: on the whole process. How do you even open up 1644 01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,040 Speaker 8: a brokerage account which is a fancy name for a 1645 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,400 Speaker 8: bank that you can buy and sell stocks from. How 1646 01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,559 Speaker 8: do you open that up? How do you shop for stocks? 1647 01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:40,400 Speaker 8: How do you evaluate stocks? Right? How do you manage risk? Right? 1648 01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,719 Speaker 8: All those things we teach step by step by step 1649 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:49,080 Speaker 8: by step. Right, So you can do both simultaneously, and 1650 01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:51,800 Speaker 8: we encourage people to do both. We're not saying do 1651 01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:55,960 Speaker 8: one and lieu of the other, but we can learn 1652 01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:59,560 Speaker 8: and participate at the same time. And again that's what 1653 01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:04,240 Speaker 8: we specalizes in through our program. J Yeah, they can 1654 01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:08,080 Speaker 8: go to shop for Stocks online dot com. Shop for 1655 01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,680 Speaker 8: stocksonline dot com. They'll see information about our program. They 1656 01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:16,160 Speaker 8: can also register for our upcoming event in Baltimore, which 1657 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:17,760 Speaker 8: is going to be just incredible. 1658 01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:19,519 Speaker 1: All right, do you have all of the citi is 1659 01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,000 Speaker 1: lined up other than Baltimore or just Baltimore right now? 1660 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,920 Speaker 8: We have Baltimore's up next. Then we'll be in the 1661 01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,479 Speaker 8: DMV District Maryland, Virginia area on the thirty first. And 1662 01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,280 Speaker 8: every time we update a new city, it'll be on 1663 01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,800 Speaker 8: the website and there's a there's a button at the 1664 01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,519 Speaker 8: website that says register for our next live event, and 1665 01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,840 Speaker 8: so we'll always have that updated. But we'll be going 1666 01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:48,439 Speaker 8: across the country to major cities and just sharing the 1667 01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:53,280 Speaker 8: information and we're building a movement and a community. But 1668 01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:57,040 Speaker 8: this is a wealth movement that anybody can participate in 1669 01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,640 Speaker 8: who wants to. All right, we're not going out to. 1670 01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:03,559 Speaker 1: Yeah two once and then when you come to LA 1671 01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:04,839 Speaker 1: when you come to Los Angeles. 1672 01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,280 Speaker 8: It's funny, she said that, because we're in the works 1673 01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,920 Speaker 8: of planning that now, so we don't have an exact date, 1674 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,880 Speaker 8: but stay tuned. Go to shop for stocksonline dot com 1675 01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:18,360 Speaker 8: and you can register for any event. You will be 1676 01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,479 Speaker 8: in the system. You'll be in our system, and then 1677 01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:26,240 Speaker 8: we'll contact you as the as the tour goes across 1678 01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:26,679 Speaker 8: the country. 1679 01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,080 Speaker 1: Gotcha. Thank you, JL, thank you for shan your thoughts 1680 01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:31,519 Speaker 1: for this, and thank you if you're trying to make 1681 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,960 Speaker 1: it simple for folks who want to start wealth building, 1682 01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:36,880 Speaker 1: because this is all we got. Nobody else is going 1683 01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:38,560 Speaker 1: to come and help us, so we need people with 1684 01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,840 Speaker 1: skilled people like yourself to help us out. 1685 01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:42,640 Speaker 14: Thank you, Thank you so. 1686 01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:44,920 Speaker 8: Much, Carl. I really appreciate keep doing what you're doing. 1687 01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:48,040 Speaker 8: And I'll leave your audience with this last thought. Whether 1688 01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:51,600 Speaker 8: we get in the market or not, others will and 1689 01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:55,040 Speaker 8: the market will keep going without us. Let's get in 1690 01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:56,800 Speaker 8: you guys, have a fantastic day. 1691 01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:00,200 Speaker 1: Thanks jayall As Jr. Family from Flip that stock on. 1692 01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,680 Speaker 1: Now let's go to Philly. Doctor now Dove's waiting for us. 1693 01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:08,519 Speaker 1: She's from Temple University's an afrocology professor, Grant Rising, Doctor Dove. 1694 01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,679 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the program, oh. 1695 01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:17,400 Speaker 16: Grand Rising, our brother Carl. Good to hear you and 1696 01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,719 Speaker 16: thank you for making me welcome. 1697 01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,439 Speaker 1: Of course, all the time we can't afford to go 1698 01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:26,200 Speaker 1: to temple so we can get you on the radio. 1699 01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:29,000 Speaker 1: So thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. But 1700 01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,000 Speaker 1: before we get started, because some people never heard you 1701 01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:34,320 Speaker 1: before and now you work with our friend doctor Malefia 1702 01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:38,320 Speaker 1: Sante and you're an afrocology professor, can you explain to 1703 01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,760 Speaker 1: the audience with what africology is or what do you 1704 01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,479 Speaker 1: teach being an afrocology professor and then tell us about 1705 01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:44,000 Speaker 1: your new book. 1706 01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:50,200 Speaker 16: Okay, I first want to just mention that Dr Charles 1707 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:56,640 Speaker 16: Finch the third has made the transition to ancesterhood and 1708 01:24:56,760 --> 01:25:01,560 Speaker 16: perhaps you'll know that. I'm not sure, but I just wanted. 1709 01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:05,840 Speaker 1: To Yes, well, thank you for mentioning his name. As 1710 01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:07,720 Speaker 1: we do with our answers. As we mentioned the name, 1711 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,840 Speaker 1: they keep them alive. Yes, we've DoD like picture is 1712 01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,799 Speaker 1: one of our power targets. He's been on here like yourself, Seliti, 1713 01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:15,559 Speaker 1: thank you for mentioning though. 1714 01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:24,680 Speaker 16: Thank you, yes, well, as an africologist, it's really related 1715 01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:32,720 Speaker 16: to everything, the study of everything related to Africa, and 1716 01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:38,360 Speaker 16: it's grounded actually in this country in the US because 1717 01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:44,679 Speaker 16: of the history of black African people in this country 1718 01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:53,040 Speaker 16: and the visibilization of the history of people taken out 1719 01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:58,280 Speaker 16: of Africa and enslaved in this country. And doctor Santi 1720 01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:02,240 Speaker 16: created it as a as a discipline. You can get 1721 01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:08,640 Speaker 16: a PhD as a way of righting the wrongs of 1722 01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:14,920 Speaker 16: learning about a true African history that has been obscured 1723 01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:22,519 Speaker 16: and denied, debased and demonized. And so it began with 1724 01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:27,679 Speaker 16: the idea of rectifying the untruth, the belief in race, 1725 01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:33,400 Speaker 16: the belief in the inferiority of black people, which has 1726 01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:38,600 Speaker 16: been a fundamental to the development of this society that 1727 01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:43,960 Speaker 16: we live in. So when you become an afrocologist, you 1728 01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:51,960 Speaker 16: are understanding the centrality of Africa to black people and 1729 01:26:52,560 --> 01:27:00,920 Speaker 16: at the same time developing, learning, investigating, researching the true 1730 01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:07,880 Speaker 16: history that we have been denied. And it's not limited 1731 01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:13,960 Speaker 16: as a discipline. I mean, you have to love Africa. 1732 01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:20,560 Speaker 16: You have to come from a position of defining it 1733 01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:26,519 Speaker 16: correctly so that you challenge the negativity that it's been 1734 01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:32,680 Speaker 16: put forward that Africans had no Africans were barbarious, Africans 1735 01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:37,559 Speaker 16: knew nothing. And what essentially is happening is that black 1736 01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:42,439 Speaker 16: people in this country who are identified as a black 1737 01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:48,600 Speaker 16: race of people can actually make a cultural connection or 1738 01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:54,640 Speaker 16: understand that there is a very proud cultural connection to Africa, 1739 01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:58,160 Speaker 16: which is the birthplace of all people of humanity. 1740 01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:00,120 Speaker 13: But in the race. 1741 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:07,040 Speaker 16: Structure, we're all divided into phenotypes that represent particularly the 1742 01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:11,439 Speaker 16: amount of melanine in the skin. So in this way 1743 01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:19,320 Speaker 16: we're all challenging that structure. And so it is of 1744 01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:28,679 Speaker 16: there are aprocologists in India, in China, in Russia, different 1745 01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:31,679 Speaker 16: parts of the world, because they've been able to see 1746 01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:36,520 Speaker 16: that when you try to get the correct history of humanity, 1747 01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:42,040 Speaker 16: it enables you to see your people more clearly, whoever 1748 01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:45,799 Speaker 16: you are, whatever country that you come from. So doctor 1749 01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:50,439 Speaker 16: Usanti has created a wonderful discipline that is not racist. 1750 01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:57,320 Speaker 16: All the disciplines in the university are racist because they're 1751 01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:02,560 Speaker 16: all grounded in concepts. Let's say African people are infery, 1752 01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:09,639 Speaker 16: and that's where these disciplines begin theoretically and philosophically from. 1753 01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:13,519 Speaker 16: And we don't begin there, we begin going back back 1754 01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:17,680 Speaker 16: back to the ancient people. And it's hard for us 1755 01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:23,200 Speaker 16: to think clearly about that because we've been taught that 1756 01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:28,960 Speaker 16: the ancient people will bear no relationship to re modern people, 1757 01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:33,520 Speaker 16: that we learned nothing from them, that they were barbarians, 1758 01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:40,360 Speaker 16: and we're actually moving along a trajectory of being civilized 1759 01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:44,600 Speaker 16: and clearly from an apocentric perspective. When you know the 1760 01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:48,600 Speaker 16: history of Africa, you know that we were civilized and 1761 01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:56,479 Speaker 16: we're going along a trajectory of barbarism. Does that make sense? 1762 01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:00,920 Speaker 1: Yes, well understood. You know at the top they are 1763 01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,280 Speaker 1: family just checking in. I guess there is doctor I 1764 01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:06,880 Speaker 1: doug Out of Temple University, which is an apricology professor there. 1765 01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:08,920 Speaker 1: But you've written a new book. Can you tell us 1766 01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:09,760 Speaker 1: about your new book. 1767 01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:16,760 Speaker 16: Yes, it's a book. It's called Teaching Teachers the Afrocentric 1768 01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:22,360 Speaker 16: Model of Education, and it's a book for anybody. Really, 1769 01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:26,640 Speaker 16: it's not specifically. If you understand that we are all 1770 01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:31,720 Speaker 16: teachers and learners, then it's not restricted to the discipline 1771 01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:39,160 Speaker 16: of education or people who are necessarily teachers, professors, or 1772 01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:45,599 Speaker 16: teachers in public schools and private schools. So it has 1773 01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:49,479 Speaker 16: a broad range of people who could be interested in it. 1774 01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:58,040 Speaker 16: And the Afro Eccentric model of education basically recognizes the 1775 01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:02,320 Speaker 16: culture or influence on our minds, on our hearts, on 1776 01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:07,600 Speaker 16: our souls, and looks at education as something that is 1777 01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:13,919 Speaker 16: created to maintain. It's an institutional structure and it's created 1778 01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:19,920 Speaker 16: to maintain the cultural group that created it. So for 1779 01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:26,280 Speaker 16: some of us, when education is trying to maintain the 1780 01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:39,800 Speaker 16: institutional structure through schools, through healthcare, through politics, through governance, 1781 01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:47,400 Speaker 16: through economics, we have to investigate what does education actually 1782 01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:54,760 Speaker 16: mean if education is to maintain these hierarchical ideas of 1783 01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:58,800 Speaker 16: who we are like in this society. For instance, in 1784 01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:06,560 Speaker 16: the race character, we are still seeing women black, women. 1785 01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:10,320 Speaker 1: Black and doctor job. Hold that thought right there. For us, 1786 01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:11,880 Speaker 1: we got to step aside for a few moments. I'll 1787 01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:15,160 Speaker 1: let you finish sharing that point with us. Family, YOUTWBO 1788 01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,280 Speaker 1: can get in on this conversation with our guest. She 1789 01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:20,320 Speaker 1: teaches a Templary university. She's an afrocologist and just asking 1790 01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:23,680 Speaker 1: Africa and being an afrocologist what it all means. You 1791 01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:26,200 Speaker 1: can't talk about africology without talking about white supremacy. So 1792 01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:27,840 Speaker 1: we're going to get into that as well. What are 1793 01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,160 Speaker 1: your thoughts? Family, checking with us at eight hundred four 1794 01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:32,960 Speaker 1: or five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take 1795 01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,720 Speaker 1: your phone calls next and grind rising. Family. Thanks for 1796 01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:37,479 Speaker 1: checking in with us on this hump day. That means 1797 01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,599 Speaker 1: we're halfway through the work week. It's a Wednesday morning, 1798 01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:43,439 Speaker 1: and our guest, this wealth coach Jr. Family Jr. Deals 1799 01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:45,400 Speaker 1: with the stock market. He's got a program, go and 1800 01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:47,679 Speaker 1: flip that stock before we go back to the imus. 1801 01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:49,360 Speaker 1: To remind you come up later this morning, you're going 1802 01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:52,080 Speaker 1: to hear from an economist, doctor Julian Malvau. She's one 1803 01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:54,760 Speaker 1: of the best in the business. Do that, mit grad. 1804 01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:56,800 Speaker 1: So she's can tell us how the economy is really doing. 1805 01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:59,240 Speaker 1: Before we speak to Dr Malvaul, though, we're going to 1806 01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:03,840 Speaker 1: check in with Temple University hrocology professor. Her name is 1807 01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,320 Speaker 1: doctor I Doves. She's written a book about white supremacy 1808 01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:09,360 Speaker 1: and tomorrow are we going to talk Africana history professor 1809 01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,880 Speaker 1: Manu Mpinn from Contra Costa College and be here discuss 1810 01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:15,800 Speaker 1: it Mortin Luther King, all Things King tomorrow right here 1811 01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:19,280 Speaker 1: on ten ten WLB in Baltimore in the DMV on 1812 01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:22,080 Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen WL So, Jae, I'll let you respond to 1813 01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:23,439 Speaker 1: that question. Then I want to ask you about an 1814 01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:25,160 Speaker 1: article that I saw that you wrote. 1815 01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:33,200 Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, So first we want to understand that there's 1816 01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,120 Speaker 8: a difference between trading and investing, and this is going 1817 01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:42,200 Speaker 8: to tie into the with the caller had asked. So, 1818 01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:45,120 Speaker 8: trading is where you're buying and selling stocks in a 1819 01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:48,280 Speaker 8: short period of time. It could be months, week, days, hours, minutes, 1820 01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:52,880 Speaker 8: even seconds. That's a very specific and high level skill set, 1821 01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:55,200 Speaker 8: all right. And so the name of my company is 1822 01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:57,960 Speaker 8: Flip that Stock, and we have a program called Flip 1823 01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:00,320 Speaker 8: that Stock that teaches people how to flip stock going 1824 01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:03,639 Speaker 8: to the market and get out very quickly and grab 1825 01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:06,800 Speaker 8: a profit. Then you have investing, which is learning how 1826 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:10,880 Speaker 8: to buy and hold stocks over a longer period of time. Right, 1827 01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:13,120 Speaker 8: most of us don't even know how to do that. 1828 01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:17,000 Speaker 8: We specialize in teaching that too through a program called 1829 01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:20,240 Speaker 8: Shop for Stocks Online. That program is less than fifty 1830 01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:23,920 Speaker 8: dollars to get started, right, And so we have programs 1831 01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:27,360 Speaker 8: that range from all different price ranges, just like going 1832 01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:31,040 Speaker 8: into a store and you have various products and services. 1833 01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:33,360 Speaker 8: But one of the things that we do, going back 1834 01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:35,920 Speaker 8: to the formula that we were talking about earlier at CARL, 1835 01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:40,800 Speaker 8: which is the old formula, you know, go to school, 1836 01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,200 Speaker 8: get good grades, and get a good job. That's broken. 1837 01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:47,559 Speaker 8: The new formula is buy assets. A stock is an 1838 01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:52,599 Speaker 8: asset it can appreciate over time, but also get residual income. 1839 01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:55,800 Speaker 8: So how can we do that. There's two ways that 1840 01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,240 Speaker 8: we can do that, right, I want to use an analogy, 1841 01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:02,040 Speaker 8: all right, So the analogy I want to use is, 1842 01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:04,320 Speaker 8: let's say that we bought a house. Let's say we 1843 01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:06,880 Speaker 8: paid three hundred thousand dollars for that house, and then 1844 01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:10,320 Speaker 8: maybe five years later that house is worth five hundred thousand. Okay, 1845 01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,639 Speaker 8: that house appreciated in value. We all get that. That's 1846 01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:15,920 Speaker 8: the same concept behind stocks. We can buy them and 1847 01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:20,040 Speaker 8: they have opportunity over time to appreciate, not a guarantee, 1848 01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:23,200 Speaker 8: an opportunity. But let's say, going back to the real 1849 01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:26,080 Speaker 8: estate example, let's say we put a tenant in that 1850 01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:28,920 Speaker 8: house and they pay us rent every month, or we 1851 01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,599 Speaker 8: say you can pay us every three months. Right now, 1852 01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:35,880 Speaker 8: you've got house appreciation and you've got income coming in. Well. 1853 01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:39,080 Speaker 8: With stocks, you can get appreciation from the stock going 1854 01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,360 Speaker 8: up in value. But you can also buy something called 1855 01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:46,160 Speaker 8: dividend stocks, which pay every month, some of them, most 1856 01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:48,680 Speaker 8: of them pay every three months. And so that's when 1857 01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:51,920 Speaker 8: a company does well that you've bought ownership in and 1858 01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:55,360 Speaker 8: they share that profit with you. And so these are 1859 01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:58,759 Speaker 8: a couple of different ways that you can start generating 1860 01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:04,320 Speaker 8: this passive income. But a third way and this is 1861 01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:06,560 Speaker 8: a big one that we've added to our program just 1862 01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:11,599 Speaker 8: last October as we added a referral program. So now 1863 01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:16,000 Speaker 8: what we're teaching our members is, hey, learn the stock market, 1864 01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:20,360 Speaker 8: take advantage of finding stock to have opportunity to appreciate, 1865 01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:24,080 Speaker 8: take advantage of dividend stocks that pay dividends every month 1866 01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:27,479 Speaker 8: and some pay most pay every three months. And then 1867 01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:30,360 Speaker 8: we have this residual component program where as we grow 1868 01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:33,559 Speaker 8: our community, as we push this movement across the country, 1869 01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:38,320 Speaker 8: we're paying our members' residuals on helping us grow the 1870 01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:42,800 Speaker 8: membership base. So we got three things going on, all 1871 01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:46,120 Speaker 8: at a very very reasonable and low price, so anybody 1872 01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:50,160 Speaker 8: who's really serious can get involved. And so these are 1873 01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:54,800 Speaker 8: the type of things that we specialize in. Our main 1874 01:36:55,240 --> 01:37:00,560 Speaker 8: mission is to educate our people, in particular on the 1875 01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:04,200 Speaker 8: greatest wealth creator ever known demand, which is a stock market, 1876 01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:08,360 Speaker 8: step by step by step how to do it, and 1877 01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:12,880 Speaker 8: a fun and easy way, in an engaging way, one 1878 01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:15,880 Speaker 8: that's not built off of I got to learn all 1879 01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:18,759 Speaker 8: these fancy terms, I got to spend hours doing research 1880 01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:22,240 Speaker 8: and all that. No, this program we call created called 1881 01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:26,600 Speaker 8: Shop for Stocks Online, mimics shopping on Amazon. That's how 1882 01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:28,960 Speaker 8: I actually came up with the idea. I was shopping 1883 01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:30,960 Speaker 8: on Amazon one day, and I'm like, Man, what a 1884 01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:35,120 Speaker 8: consumer they have made meet and millions, tens of millions 1885 01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:37,200 Speaker 8: of other people. Matter of fact, anytime I think of 1886 01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:40,320 Speaker 8: buying anything outside of food and gas, the first thing 1887 01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:43,040 Speaker 8: I think about is Amazon. Right. And so I'm on 1888 01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:45,920 Speaker 8: Amazon one day and I'm buying I'm like, how come 1889 01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:49,040 Speaker 8: we don't have a platform that is easy to shop 1890 01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,559 Speaker 8: for stocks online as it is to be a consumer 1891 01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:54,640 Speaker 8: and shop on Amazon. And so I created this platform 1892 01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:57,800 Speaker 8: that mimics it, where you go into platform and you 1893 01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:00,800 Speaker 8: can look it up a big kind. It's a picture 1894 01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:03,160 Speaker 8: of a plane, let's say, and you click on that 1895 01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:07,519 Speaker 8: and it'll open up all the companies, airline companies that 1896 01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:10,040 Speaker 8: you can buy ownership in. And we use the same 1897 01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:12,880 Speaker 8: steps that you use to shop on Amazon. We use 1898 01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:17,280 Speaker 8: those same steps to buy ownership in these various companies. Right, 1899 01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,600 Speaker 8: if we're out here buying the Nike, we need to 1900 01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:22,160 Speaker 8: know how to buy ownership in Nike. Right. And again 1901 01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:24,679 Speaker 8: I'm not recommended Nike. I'm using this as an example. 1902 01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:28,800 Speaker 8: We understand how to go shopping all we need to 1903 01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:33,200 Speaker 8: do is just transfer that knowledge into buying things assets, 1904 01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:36,760 Speaker 8: and in particular we specialize in stocks that can help 1905 01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:41,719 Speaker 8: us grow our wealth. So it's a very very simple concept. 1906 01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:45,320 Speaker 8: It's an affordable concept, and we're teaching people how to 1907 01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:52,600 Speaker 8: how to generate passive and residual incomeaneously. 1908 01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:55,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jay, I have got folks want to talk to you, 1909 01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:57,519 Speaker 1: tweet questions for you as well, So let me go 1910 01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,880 Speaker 1: go Geane and Pikeshow has a question for your show onlines? 1911 01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,719 Speaker 1: Grand Rising genial question for JR. Fanwick? 1912 01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:08,800 Speaker 10: Yeah, Grand Rising everybody. Uh, I'm glad you introduced the 1913 01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:10,519 Speaker 10: subject of the residual side. 1914 01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:11,760 Speaker 3: Are you for me? 1915 01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:17,040 Speaker 10: Are you familiar with insurance trust and how to avoid 1916 01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:20,679 Speaker 10: paying taxes and the money can be left to even 1917 01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:24,080 Speaker 10: your you know, you know, one of your relatives or 1918 01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:28,280 Speaker 10: whatever beneficiary and not pay taxes. Also, uh, if it's 1919 01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:30,840 Speaker 10: sheltered in an insurance trust. 1920 01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:35,120 Speaker 8: No, I'm not an insurance expert. So one of the 1921 01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,120 Speaker 8: things I do is I stay in my lane. I 1922 01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:39,519 Speaker 8: know there's many different vehicles out there. As a matter 1923 01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:42,160 Speaker 8: of fact, I was talking to an insurance expert yesterday 1924 01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:44,840 Speaker 8: who's coming on board with our company, who will be 1925 01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:47,479 Speaker 8: teaching great, great, great things you were just talking about. 1926 01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:49,920 Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, great, all right. So I just wanted to 1927 01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,280 Speaker 10: introduce that, and I was hoping, you know, hoping you 1928 01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:54,600 Speaker 10: would be somewhat in agreement with you. But it is 1929 01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:58,080 Speaker 10: a way of you know, you know, taking advantage of 1930 01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:02,320 Speaker 10: the stock market like that you'll put professing and you know, 1931 01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,519 Speaker 10: I really appreciate the information that you're putting out here. 1932 01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:06,840 Speaker 10: Thank you very much, sir, Thank you so much. 1933 01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:10,160 Speaker 1: All right, thanks you. A tweet question for you, Jay Tweet. 1934 01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:12,360 Speaker 1: It says my son has two four A one accounts 1935 01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,280 Speaker 1: from previous jobs. He was told to combine them and 1936 01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:18,519 Speaker 1: put them in wroth accounts. You don't have to pay taxes, 1937 01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:20,920 Speaker 1: but you make more money. And person want to say 1938 01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:21,800 Speaker 1: us any truth to that? 1939 01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:23,519 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1940 01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:26,519 Speaker 8: You know. One of the things is that I kind 1941 01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:29,640 Speaker 8: of shy away from because without knowing all the particulars, 1942 01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:32,640 Speaker 8: I don't want to give an answer to something. And 1943 01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:38,639 Speaker 8: there's so many surrounding factors, right, So I get asked 1944 01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:40,960 Speaker 8: questions all the time, like, you know, should I take 1945 01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:42,280 Speaker 8: some money out of this and put it in this? 1946 01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:45,680 Speaker 8: Should I do this? And I don't like giving those 1947 01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:48,160 Speaker 8: scenarios because as soon as you give an answer to 1948 01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:51,880 Speaker 8: one scenario like that, then there's there's a circumstance that 1949 01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:55,760 Speaker 8: popped up that I knew nothing about, right, and so 1950 01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,880 Speaker 8: I kind of shy away from that. I would say, 1951 01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,320 Speaker 8: you know, called the benefits office where the four one 1952 01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:07,519 Speaker 8: K is and ask them those specific questions, right, and 1953 01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:10,880 Speaker 8: see what those implications are if you move that money, 1954 01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:13,639 Speaker 8: if you combine them. Right, they ought to be able 1955 01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:16,400 Speaker 8: to tell you, and they're doing that all day long. 1956 01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:19,479 Speaker 1: Got you saming away from the topic, Let's go back 1957 01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:22,680 Speaker 1: to tell us about the financial freedom expressed to all 1958 01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:23,880 Speaker 1: that you're doing across the country. 1959 01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:28,720 Speaker 8: Yeah. So one of the things that I wanted to 1960 01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:34,160 Speaker 8: do is go across the country and introduce people to, 1961 01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:37,920 Speaker 8: first and foremost the concept that we must. 1962 01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:39,080 Speaker 13: It's not optional. 1963 01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:42,800 Speaker 8: We must be in the stock market. This is one 1964 01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:45,479 Speaker 8: of the biggest things that is holding us back is 1965 01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:48,160 Speaker 8: not being in the stock market. So that's the first thing. 1966 01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:50,880 Speaker 8: The second thing is I wanted to show our people 1967 01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:54,639 Speaker 8: it's affordable. Anybody can do it. Like I said, stocks 1968 01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:57,519 Speaker 8: come in all different price ranges. I wanted to show 1969 01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:00,679 Speaker 8: that we have a program that's affordable. Body can join. 1970 01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:03,840 Speaker 8: It's under fifty dollars and then I want to show 1971 01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:11,040 Speaker 8: people how us working as a community right community economics, 1972 01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:18,320 Speaker 8: we can build residual income outside of corporate job, outside 1973 01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:21,599 Speaker 8: of a government job. We can do this on our own. 1974 01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:25,080 Speaker 8: And we have a very very specific program that walks 1975 01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:28,360 Speaker 8: us through it, step by step by step called shop 1976 01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:31,719 Speaker 8: for Stocks Online. And so that's what the tour is about. 1977 01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:36,120 Speaker 8: And we're going across the country with the tour. It 1978 01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:39,160 Speaker 8: would be in Baltimore as a matter of fact, this Sunday, 1979 01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:41,680 Speaker 8: I'm supposed to have a snowstorm. If we do, we'll 1980 01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:46,759 Speaker 8: be doing it converting it over to a online conference, 1981 01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:51,360 Speaker 8: but plan on being in Baltimore this Sunday. And it's 1982 01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:54,439 Speaker 8: been an incredible, incredible journey because so many people are 1983 01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:56,280 Speaker 8: coming up to me saying, man, I never knew this. 1984 01:42:57,240 --> 01:43:00,479 Speaker 8: I never met a person of color who are understood 1985 01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:02,400 Speaker 8: this and broke it down and made it so simple 1986 01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:05,320 Speaker 8: for us to get involved and so affordable to get involved. 1987 01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:12,200 Speaker 8: So that's what the Financial Tours about, the financial freedom 1988 01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:13,280 Speaker 8: expressed to it. 1989 01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:16,519 Speaker 1: Five away from the topic, I got another tweet question 1990 01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:18,439 Speaker 1: for you, tweet to watch Duffie. Do you think the 1991 01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:20,639 Speaker 1: stock market is going to crash like it did back 1992 01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:23,920 Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty nine. And if so, what do we do? 1993 01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:26,320 Speaker 1: What is there anything we can take advantage of me? 1994 01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:29,680 Speaker 8: Yes, so you know, I don't have a crystal ball, 1995 01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:33,800 Speaker 8: as nobody else anybody else does. However, think of it 1996 01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:37,559 Speaker 8: like this, all right. And again there's an old saying 1997 01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:42,200 Speaker 8: that wealthy people laugh at, and they laugh as they're 1998 01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:44,439 Speaker 8: talking about poor people and middle class people. They say, 1999 01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:46,639 Speaker 8: the stock market is the only place people run from 2000 01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:49,880 Speaker 8: when there's a crash. So if there is a crash, 2001 01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:52,639 Speaker 8: we should be getting excited. That means everything is getting 2002 01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:55,320 Speaker 8: ready to go on salem, or everything has gone on sale. 2003 01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:59,200 Speaker 8: There's an opportunity. That's the way we have to think. Right, 2004 01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:02,759 Speaker 8: We've got to get over this fear of, oh my goodness, 2005 01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:05,120 Speaker 8: what if it goes down. If it goes down, it's 2006 01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:09,160 Speaker 8: on sale. There's a reason that during the holiday season, 2007 01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:13,320 Speaker 8: Black Friday is the biggest shopping day. Why because everything 2008 01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:16,960 Speaker 8: is on sale. And what does that do? That attracts 2009 01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:19,800 Speaker 8: millions of people coming in these stores because they want 2010 01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:23,400 Speaker 8: to buy stuff on sale. That's a wealth mentality. I 2011 01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:27,120 Speaker 8: want to buy ownership in companies that are on sale. 2012 01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:31,479 Speaker 8: And so if it does, it's fantastic. Right, if it 2013 01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:35,880 Speaker 8: goes up, fantastic. We have strategies whether it goes up 2014 01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:39,400 Speaker 8: or whether it goes down. We look at things differently 2015 01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:42,720 Speaker 8: as your mindset of how you look at things. And 2016 01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,280 Speaker 8: so if we're always in this mindset of oh this, 2017 01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:47,720 Speaker 8: what if it doesn't work? What if it goes down? 2018 01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:51,880 Speaker 8: That's a poverty mindset that has kept us behind. If 2019 01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:54,519 Speaker 8: we know that wealthy people, the majority of them, made 2020 01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:56,439 Speaker 8: their wealth in the stock market, we need to be 2021 01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:00,479 Speaker 8: learning what their learning and doing what they're doing. And 2022 01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:03,759 Speaker 8: the stock market is the easiest place to start compared 2023 01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:08,200 Speaker 8: to the other wealth builders. So if it crashes, great, 2024 01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,280 Speaker 8: it's a massive sale and we can take advantage of it. 2025 01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:14,720 Speaker 1: Got you hold that's all right there. We've got to 2026 01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:16,479 Speaker 1: step aside and get caught up in our ladies' traffic 2027 01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:18,320 Speaker 1: and weather in our different cities. The three minutes away 2028 01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:20,599 Speaker 1: from the Tavef family, I guess there is wealth coach JR. 2029 01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:22,840 Speaker 1: Fenwick is trying and cut you to get into the 2030 01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:25,120 Speaker 1: salt market. What are your thoughts? Eight hundred four or 2031 01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:27,840 Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six, And I'm gonna call 2032 01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:29,680 Speaker 1: speak to him. We'll take your phone calls after we 2033 01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:32,599 Speaker 1: take the traffick and weather that's next and grand Rising family, 2034 01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:34,479 Speaker 1: thanks for rolling. But let's on this Wednesday morning with 2035 01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:36,960 Speaker 1: our guest. They're at a Temple University. Doctor No Dove. 2036 01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:39,640 Speaker 1: She's got a new book out. She teaches Africulture of 2037 01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:42,120 Speaker 1: the College, doctor Dove. You want to tell us about 2038 01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:42,760 Speaker 1: your new book. 2039 01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:50,560 Speaker 16: Yes, I've got the breakdown of the chapter's breakdown. So 2040 01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:55,320 Speaker 16: I look at the roots of us education. We often 2041 01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:59,000 Speaker 16: don't get a true picture of this country and what 2042 01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:04,240 Speaker 16: it's based. I look at culture and race and its 2043 01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:09,639 Speaker 16: effects on our minds and our behaviors, the afrocentric theory 2044 01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:16,640 Speaker 16: of education, remembering kim At an ancient African for this, 2045 01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:21,280 Speaker 16: so that we are linked to our ancient history, culture 2046 01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:27,320 Speaker 16: and knowledge and its institutionalization because you know, essentially education 2047 01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:33,720 Speaker 16: from the ancient perspective is the past to enlightenment, and 2048 01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:40,280 Speaker 16: often education is not that in this society. I look 2049 01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:44,240 Speaker 16: at shake cancer jokes to cradle theories, so that one 2050 01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:48,600 Speaker 16: is clear in reading this book of the significance of 2051 01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:55,879 Speaker 16: culture to the way we think behave act in this society, 2052 01:46:55,960 --> 01:47:02,000 Speaker 16: in any society, and then argue about the needs for 2053 01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:07,760 Speaker 16: this model. And I challenge prevailing racist assumption some of 2054 01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:12,880 Speaker 16: the things that we believe about each other, and you know, 2055 01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:16,799 Speaker 16: put them in the proper light of what has really 2056 01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:24,719 Speaker 16: from an afrocentric perspective, the reality to challenge these racist 2057 01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:31,400 Speaker 16: ideas of who we all are. Look at cultural memory 2058 01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:36,200 Speaker 16: and the significance of African matriarchy, which is the first 2059 01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:44,120 Speaker 16: culture that we developed in Africa when Homo sapiens Africans 2060 01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:50,080 Speaker 16: first existed three hundred and fifty thousand years ago. That 2061 01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:54,880 Speaker 16: is a cultural orientation that is still with us today. 2062 01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:59,080 Speaker 16: Some of us can still remember it and still practice 2063 01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:05,280 Speaker 16: these more egalitarian ways of being existing and thinking. And 2064 01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:09,360 Speaker 16: then I look at the writer's motive, which is a 2065 01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:12,880 Speaker 16: bit about myself and why I chose to go along 2066 01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:18,760 Speaker 16: this path, because all researched work needs, you know, the 2067 01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:23,560 Speaker 16: reader needs to know why did you do this or 2068 01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:27,960 Speaker 16: who are you? And then we understand the biases we're 2069 01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:31,720 Speaker 16: all by it that can appear in our works. So 2070 01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:35,840 Speaker 16: there's a bit about me, and that's the afronographic research 2071 01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:43,320 Speaker 16: method that's used for these books and other books are afrocentrist, right, 2072 01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:48,240 Speaker 16: there's a method, and you have to be able to 2073 01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:56,360 Speaker 16: include yourself so that the readers and investigators understand where 2074 01:48:56,439 --> 01:49:01,280 Speaker 16: you're coming from and why you wrote it. And then 2075 01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:07,720 Speaker 16: I look at cultural similarities and distinctions among humans, you know, 2076 01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:13,160 Speaker 16: to break the boundaries of race, because the cultural memory, 2077 01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:20,360 Speaker 16: our memory is in of humanity is within us. 2078 01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:21,040 Speaker 4: All, you know. 2079 01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:26,360 Speaker 16: But when we're conquered, the first things that the conquerors, 2080 01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:31,839 Speaker 16: that colonialists and in slavers, must do is to stop anything, 2081 01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:37,160 Speaker 16: to stop the knowledge, to stop the memory through violence 2082 01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:42,799 Speaker 16: or whatever means, so that we then the new cultural 2083 01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:50,400 Speaker 16: imposition takes place where we begin to not remember, but 2084 01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:57,080 Speaker 16: we begin to practice and think using the oppressors. 2085 01:49:58,000 --> 01:49:58,400 Speaker 8: Thoughts. 2086 01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:02,519 Speaker 16: So our thoughts have changed. So if you want to 2087 01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:06,479 Speaker 16: conquer people, you must stop their thinking because they usually 2088 01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:10,200 Speaker 16: know who they are, so you have to stop that 2089 01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:13,920 Speaker 16: and create the identity that you want them to be 2090 01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:15,360 Speaker 16: and think that they are. 2091 01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:19,600 Speaker 1: And well, I thought, right there, let's stick down on 2092 01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:21,120 Speaker 1: that one a little bit because I think that's when 2093 01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:24,000 Speaker 1: we look at Africans in America then that many of 2094 01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:26,840 Speaker 1: many of us are in that position. We don't know 2095 01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:29,880 Speaker 1: who we are. How are you going to address that 2096 01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:31,800 Speaker 1: if you don't know who you are because you don't 2097 01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:33,680 Speaker 1: know that you don't know who you are if you 2098 01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:36,640 Speaker 1: get my drift of doctor dog. So how how are 2099 01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:38,559 Speaker 1: we going to approach that? How do you approach because 2100 01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:40,920 Speaker 1: so many of us now, well some of us are 2101 01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:44,519 Speaker 1: saying with this and we're that the core we're African, 2102 01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:46,719 Speaker 1: and they don't want to be African. If you're black, 2103 01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:49,479 Speaker 1: you're African. Is you know, if you're black African? You know, 2104 01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:51,920 Speaker 1: just look in the mirror, you're African. But they don't 2105 01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:55,320 Speaker 1: want to accept that. So how do you when you're 2106 01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:57,479 Speaker 1: in class and this reaches to you with one of 2107 01:50:57,520 --> 01:50:59,720 Speaker 1: your students, how do you what do you say to them? 2108 01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:04,800 Speaker 16: Well, it's a process. People have to go through a process. 2109 01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:08,920 Speaker 16: So you really take people where they're where they are, 2110 01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:15,000 Speaker 16: you know, just as you're explaining, just believing, well, this 2111 01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:19,360 Speaker 16: is the idea, the quintessential African or the classical African 2112 01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:22,439 Speaker 16: looks like this, and I've got a dark skin and 2113 01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:27,920 Speaker 16: I look like that. So you know, to break it down, 2114 01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:31,840 Speaker 16: one has to say that there is a real history, 2115 01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:34,800 Speaker 16: a chronological history of humanity. 2116 01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:36,880 Speaker 13: We're in this place. 2117 01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:40,920 Speaker 16: But what's happened is that we've been our minds have 2118 01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:46,280 Speaker 16: been trained to look at everything about Africa as negative. 2119 01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:52,920 Speaker 16: So if you believe the hype, which is fundamental to 2120 01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:58,840 Speaker 16: education in this country, then everything that happened before enslavements 2121 01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:04,439 Speaker 16: was of low consequent If you are a member, you 2122 01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:09,160 Speaker 16: know a descendant of people enslaved here, and so if 2123 01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:13,000 Speaker 16: you go back, it's frightening for people because they think, well, 2124 01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:16,639 Speaker 16: what's the point of going back thousands of years? I'm 2125 01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:19,600 Speaker 16: here now. But the thing is that there was so 2126 01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:23,800 Speaker 16: much happening thousands of years ago, and we are connected, 2127 01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:30,000 Speaker 16: but our memory has been purposefully interrupted so that we 2128 01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:36,160 Speaker 16: don't know, particularly dark skinned African people here, the great 2129 01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:42,800 Speaker 16: achievements that we've already accomplished, that our ancestors accomplished, and 2130 01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:45,920 Speaker 16: so it makes us fear to hear that because we 2131 01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:51,040 Speaker 16: think they're barbarians. But it's the truth of the matter 2132 01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:54,800 Speaker 16: is that we were the first people, and all people 2133 01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:59,479 Speaker 16: are African. We look different because we're different phenotypes or 2134 01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:02,440 Speaker 16: all the events that have happened to us, the environments 2135 01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:07,240 Speaker 16: and so on, but we're all connected and we all 2136 01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:13,360 Speaker 16: have to understand our African, our relationship to Africa, and 2137 01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:18,560 Speaker 16: that our ancestors, all our ancestors were black and African. 2138 01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:25,240 Speaker 16: And so it's an educational process. So you don't begin 2139 01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:30,000 Speaker 16: with you know, as I say, you begin with where 2140 01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:35,200 Speaker 16: the students are and you ask them to write reflections 2141 01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:40,479 Speaker 16: papers so that as a professor, you understand what students 2142 01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:43,880 Speaker 16: are thinking, what do they think about Africa, what do 2143 01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:47,200 Speaker 16: they think about a cultural connection, what do they think 2144 01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:51,639 Speaker 16: this course is about, and you use that to guide 2145 01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:58,840 Speaker 16: you in teaching and education actually is the key. You know, 2146 01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:06,559 Speaker 16: you can't dominate people and force them to learn something 2147 01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:10,080 Speaker 16: at your will. It's got to be something that people 2148 01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:13,439 Speaker 16: can feel that makes sense. It ought to do with logic, 2149 01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:18,519 Speaker 16: and logic includes the heart and soul as well as 2150 01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:25,760 Speaker 16: the mind. So people love truth. Truth is almost scientific. 2151 01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:31,920 Speaker 16: It's like a psycho social experience. And you know, when 2152 01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:37,080 Speaker 16: students understand this is all making sense, I see, then 2153 01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:45,240 Speaker 16: you know they can then do their own introspective research 2154 01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:50,240 Speaker 16: to what happens, what information they've been given, why they 2155 01:54:50,360 --> 01:54:53,040 Speaker 16: think the way they do, and so on. So it 2156 01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:58,000 Speaker 16: makes the student the researcher because it's making sense. 2157 01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:02,040 Speaker 1: So it's I thought, right there, doctor Dover thirty minutes 2158 01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:04,000 Speaker 1: after the top of the family, they're fascinating. We're in 2159 01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:07,360 Speaker 1: her classroom now with doctor no Duve. She teaches athrocology 2160 01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:10,760 Speaker 1: at Temple University in Philly and discussing her new book. 2161 01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:13,520 Speaker 1: But part of what you just said, because there is 2162 01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:16,160 Speaker 1: a color spectrum here in our community, as you know, 2163 01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:20,360 Speaker 1: doctor Dove, some of our melanine challenged brothers and sisters, Uh, 2164 01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:25,520 Speaker 1: they they and the other groups the colonizers say them 2165 01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:28,720 Speaker 1: as non threatening because they're closer to them in look 2166 01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:33,520 Speaker 1: and appearances, while the darker skinned African is more threatening 2167 01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:38,200 Speaker 1: and they feel more inferior. Can you address that? Doctor 2168 01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:41,040 Speaker 1: Franciscaus russ And talked about this because some people who 2169 01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:43,240 Speaker 1: still think they were Melanie challenge and some of we 2170 01:55:43,320 --> 01:55:46,480 Speaker 1: got brothers and sisters severely mailing in challenge it could 2171 01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:49,400 Speaker 1: pass for white and they and there, I guess they 2172 01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:52,720 Speaker 1: feel that they were better than the darkest skin Africans. 2173 01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:54,720 Speaker 1: Back in the day, back in the days of slavery, 2174 01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:57,920 Speaker 1: they were shunned down because we knew that somebody white, 2175 01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, got into either raped or advantage of their 2176 01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:04,800 Speaker 1: mother or their grandmother. But now it's flipped on his 2177 01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:08,800 Speaker 1: head and now they're they sort of elevated themselves and 2178 01:56:08,840 --> 01:56:11,600 Speaker 1: feel they're better than the other darkskinned Africans, the people 2179 01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:14,320 Speaker 1: with rich Melanie. So can you address those issues for us, 2180 01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:15,080 Speaker 1: doctor Dot. 2181 01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:20,720 Speaker 16: Yes, I can. The thing is that this is just 2182 01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:24,600 Speaker 16: a belief. It's a constructed belief. It's actually a cultural 2183 01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:27,640 Speaker 16: belief that comes out of the culture that believes in 2184 01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:33,600 Speaker 16: the inferiority and superiority of people, and it's grounded in 2185 01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:38,320 Speaker 16: a patriarchal culture. That is, race arrives itself as that. 2186 01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:42,360 Speaker 16: So the first you know, when there are several modern 2187 01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:46,920 Speaker 16: religions that have evidence of this kind of thinking where 2188 01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:56,280 Speaker 16: the first woman, the black African, committed moral moral sort 2189 01:56:56,320 --> 01:57:09,200 Speaker 16: of can I say the first woman was she went 2190 01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:12,680 Speaker 16: behind her husband's back and had dealings with the devil. 2191 01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:17,040 Speaker 16: That type of idea as a religious as a spiritual 2192 01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:22,600 Speaker 16: foundation in these types of ideas, So people who are 2193 01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:27,080 Speaker 16: in the modern religions are taught this as a creation 2194 01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:31,880 Speaker 16: story and so it works in that way, the construction 2195 01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:35,680 Speaker 16: of race. And again it's just a belief. It isn't true. 2196 01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:39,560 Speaker 16: There's no evidence of it. For thousands of years before 2197 01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:44,200 Speaker 16: that type of thinking took place, people didn't see themselves 2198 01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:52,320 Speaker 16: as racist. And African matriarchy, which is placing the mother 2199 01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:59,800 Speaker 16: the center of social organization, you know, created a more 2200 01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:06,520 Speaker 16: egalitarian culture orientation where people respected each other. They didn't 2201 01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:10,440 Speaker 16: look at gender and say you're inferior to me because 2202 01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:14,120 Speaker 16: you committed the crime. Your punishment is that you will 2203 01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:18,520 Speaker 16: have men'sies and hard time having babies. These all sort 2204 01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:23,200 Speaker 16: of religious beliefs, but they're not actually true. But out 2205 01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:27,720 Speaker 16: of this first hierarchy came other hierarchies. Because once you 2206 01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:32,640 Speaker 16: justify a hierarchy and you think, yes, that's true, that's 2207 01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:35,880 Speaker 16: how things should be. I am superior to you. Once 2208 01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:40,000 Speaker 16: you justified that, then you continue to live that way 2209 01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:44,480 Speaker 16: and justify many hierarchies which we have in this society, 2210 01:58:45,080 --> 01:58:48,240 Speaker 16: and we create them because we believe in them and 2211 01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:52,160 Speaker 16: that they're just you know, natural slavery. They are just 2212 01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:57,080 Speaker 16: people that are born to be enslaved. Like Aristotle thought. 2213 01:58:57,880 --> 01:59:02,600 Speaker 16: You know, these ideas are hand down through the academic world, 2214 01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:08,000 Speaker 16: and so we believe, we're made to believe through academia 2215 01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:12,160 Speaker 16: as much as anything else that the darkest skin people 2216 01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:17,440 Speaker 16: are the inferior people and the lightest skin people are superior. 2217 01:59:17,680 --> 01:59:21,720 Speaker 16: So in that movement, there's a recognition that when people 2218 01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:26,000 Speaker 16: came out of Africa fifty to seventy thousand years ago, 2219 01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:31,440 Speaker 16: when Africans came out of Africa and populated the world. 2220 01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:36,000 Speaker 16: Those who got lighter skinned were more civilized. And this 2221 01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:41,280 Speaker 16: is absolutely rubbish, but we believe it because we're forced 2222 01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:44,960 Speaker 16: to believe it. You're punished if you don't believe it. 2223 01:59:45,160 --> 01:59:50,960 Speaker 16: You're not taught through in education, in schooling, as Muli 2224 01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:54,520 Speaker 16: mu Shuja would say, schooling, you are taught how to 2225 01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:57,840 Speaker 16: be a member of this society and believe in it. 2226 01:59:58,600 --> 02:00:04,760 Speaker 16: So even though the falsehood, it's activated because people's minds, 2227 02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:09,480 Speaker 16: which is the most powerful thing. It's central to culture. 2228 02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:12,520 Speaker 16: People's minds make. 2229 02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:13,840 Speaker 10: Them match in these ways. 2230 02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:18,160 Speaker 16: They think in these ways and conduct our lives believing 2231 02:00:18,320 --> 02:00:22,080 Speaker 16: in something that has no evidence to it because we're 2232 02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:25,320 Speaker 16: not allowed to look at the evidence. We start history 2233 02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:30,720 Speaker 16: from a particular point. So in this country, enslavement actually 2234 02:00:30,920 --> 02:00:34,800 Speaker 16: enslavement as the First Nations people took place as well. 2235 02:00:35,200 --> 02:00:37,920 Speaker 16: We don't know anything about them. I do write about 2236 02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:41,720 Speaker 16: them in this book. First Nations people considered to be 2237 02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:46,240 Speaker 16: the red people. And you know, so we've got this 2238 02:00:46,560 --> 02:00:50,280 Speaker 16: enslavement thing going on, as if people needed to be 2239 02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:54,720 Speaker 16: enslaved or deserved to be enslaved, you know, because they 2240 02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:58,600 Speaker 16: didn't know how to be true humans or intellectuals and so, 2241 02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:01,960 Speaker 16: and this is memory. We're taught this all the time. 2242 02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:06,440 Speaker 16: It's in our minds. And racism. While it's not true, 2243 02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:09,840 Speaker 16: it appears to be true because that's how we construct it. 2244 02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:14,680 Speaker 16: And racism and the belief in this has been responsible 2245 02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:18,560 Speaker 16: for the deaths of hundreds of millions of people. You know, 2246 02:01:19,320 --> 02:01:22,120 Speaker 16: it's as if it's a natural thing, but it isn't. 2247 02:01:22,160 --> 02:01:26,880 Speaker 16: It's only truth that can free us from believing in 2248 02:01:27,000 --> 02:01:32,640 Speaker 16: this falsehood, because the falsehood really enables people to exploit people. 2249 02:01:33,440 --> 02:01:36,960 Speaker 16: So you can go to the continent where we're all from, 2250 02:01:37,680 --> 02:01:43,440 Speaker 16: and it's covered in countries that are separated nations. These 2251 02:01:43,640 --> 02:01:47,280 Speaker 16: countries are all taking the world out of Africa and 2252 02:01:47,480 --> 02:01:53,000 Speaker 16: developing their own societies. And white supremacy is the foundation 2253 02:01:53,920 --> 02:01:59,400 Speaker 16: of race. So when you participate and you believe in it, 2254 02:01:59,640 --> 02:02:03,200 Speaker 16: you're actually practicing white supremacy. 2255 02:02:03,640 --> 02:02:05,360 Speaker 1: And hold up, throw right there, doctor Dove. We got 2256 02:02:05,400 --> 02:02:06,960 Speaker 1: to step aside for a few moments and we come 2257 02:02:07,000 --> 02:02:09,120 Speaker 1: back though. I want you to explain that more drilled 2258 02:02:09,160 --> 02:02:11,880 Speaker 1: down on that the white supremacy angle as well, when 2259 02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:14,520 Speaker 1: it comes into race and culture. Family, you too can 2260 02:02:14,600 --> 02:02:16,960 Speaker 1: join us in our conversation with doctor Now Duff. She 2261 02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:20,280 Speaker 1: teaches a Temple of University. She's an afrocology professor. Hope 2262 02:02:20,320 --> 02:02:23,000 Speaker 1: you're enjoying the presentation. Students fight to get in her 2263 02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:25,600 Speaker 1: classes every semester. You can reach it though. If you 2264 02:02:25,680 --> 02:02:27,680 Speaker 1: got a question, reach out to us at eight hundred 2265 02:02:27,720 --> 02:02:30,760 Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six. We'll take 2266 02:02:30,760 --> 02:02:33,480 Speaker 1: your phone calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks for 2267 02:02:33,480 --> 02:02:35,680 Speaker 1: sticking with us on this Wednesday morning. It's a hump day. 2268 02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:37,920 Speaker 1: That means we're halfway through the work. Wereek with our guest, 2269 02:02:38,080 --> 02:02:41,720 Speaker 1: doctor now Dove. Doctor dev teaches a Temple university. She's 2270 02:02:41,720 --> 02:02:45,520 Speaker 1: an afrocology professor. Before we get into more issues about 2271 02:02:45,560 --> 02:02:47,360 Speaker 1: white premiercy, we've got some folks who want to talk 2272 02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:48,880 Speaker 1: to you, doctor Dove. Before we do that, then, let 2273 02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:50,840 Speaker 1: me just remind the family. They're coming up. Later this morning, 2274 02:02:50,880 --> 02:02:53,280 Speaker 1: we're going to speak with economist doctor Julian male Vaux, 2275 02:02:53,800 --> 02:02:56,160 Speaker 1: and tomorrow we're going to speak with an Africana history 2276 02:02:56,200 --> 02:02:58,920 Speaker 1: professor Menu and Penn's going to join us. So if 2277 02:02:58,960 --> 02:03:00,960 Speaker 1: you are in Baltimore, make sure you keep your radio 2278 02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:04,040 Speaker 1: locktin tight on ten ten WLB, or if you're in 2279 02:03:04,080 --> 02:03:07,640 Speaker 1: the DMV area, we're on fourteen fifty WL, Doctor Dove. 2280 02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:11,480 Speaker 1: Before you respond to the question about white supremacy, we 2281 02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:14,240 Speaker 1: got some folks that let me take these calls for you. First, 2282 02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:16,920 Speaker 1: Sister Kashiba is reaching out to us from Silver Spring 2283 02:03:17,000 --> 02:03:19,080 Speaker 1: and Maryland has a question for us. She's online one 2284 02:03:19,640 --> 02:03:22,280 Speaker 1: Grand Rising and Sister Kashiba, your question for Doctor Dove. 2285 02:03:23,080 --> 02:03:28,440 Speaker 5: Yes, indeed, Grand Rising curl and as usual, you always 2286 02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:33,640 Speaker 5: have the most brilliant people on Doctor Dove. First of all, 2287 02:03:33,760 --> 02:03:36,120 Speaker 5: before I forget, I need the name of your book, 2288 02:03:36,160 --> 02:03:37,200 Speaker 5: and then I have a question. 2289 02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:45,080 Speaker 16: Okay, thank you. The book is called Teaching Teachers the 2290 02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:49,680 Speaker 16: Afrocentric Model of Education. 2291 02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:56,120 Speaker 5: Oh that's long. Teaching Teachers the Afrocentric Model of their education. 2292 02:03:57,160 --> 02:03:59,040 Speaker 13: Yes, and. 2293 02:04:00,920 --> 02:04:04,480 Speaker 16: It's out. You can make orders for it, but I 2294 02:04:04,600 --> 02:04:08,200 Speaker 16: think it's actually you can get it in hands in 2295 02:04:08,320 --> 02:04:09,040 Speaker 16: a few days. 2296 02:04:11,000 --> 02:04:16,560 Speaker 5: All right, good, thank you. Now I have a couple questions. 2297 02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:20,280 Speaker 5: Has something to do here with I tend sometimes to 2298 02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:23,520 Speaker 5: think outside the box, so I may be totally off 2299 02:04:23,600 --> 02:04:28,920 Speaker 5: kilter with this question, but please hear me out. But 2300 02:04:29,640 --> 02:04:34,240 Speaker 5: in today's Africa, as well as colonize Africa and ancient Africa, 2301 02:04:35,160 --> 02:04:39,040 Speaker 5: I believe that the male is always placed in the 2302 02:04:39,160 --> 02:04:44,680 Speaker 5: leadership role in governance now. But although we look and 2303 02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:47,720 Speaker 5: we see that many of these males have been co 2304 02:04:47,920 --> 02:04:55,080 Speaker 5: opted corrupted by European malibulators. Now there are obvious tricks 2305 02:04:55,240 --> 02:05:01,920 Speaker 5: that are used against the male personality and these manipulators, 2306 02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:09,320 Speaker 5: whereas the female in governance always seems to take a 2307 02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:14,920 Speaker 5: lesser role. Is there anything in the psyche of the well, 2308 02:05:14,960 --> 02:05:20,080 Speaker 5: you look at the the African psyche, uh, in the 2309 02:05:20,240 --> 02:05:24,760 Speaker 5: male that makes him more susceptible, made him today as 2310 02:05:24,840 --> 02:05:28,960 Speaker 5: well as an ancient times, more susceptible to this kind 2311 02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:29,880 Speaker 5: of manipulation. 2312 02:05:32,360 --> 02:05:37,920 Speaker 16: Well, one of the things is to not look at 2313 02:05:38,080 --> 02:05:45,560 Speaker 16: it from a sort of biological or genetic position, but 2314 02:05:45,840 --> 02:05:50,480 Speaker 16: to look a bit rather as cultural, because people can 2315 02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:54,960 Speaker 16: be taught to be anything depending on the cultural orientation. 2316 02:05:55,320 --> 02:05:58,520 Speaker 16: So culture is very important in this book because it 2317 02:05:58,600 --> 02:06:03,640 Speaker 16: affects the mind, and the mind affects culture. So they 2318 02:06:03,800 --> 02:06:08,800 Speaker 16: work with each other. So the ancient ideas, and they're 2319 02:06:08,920 --> 02:06:16,520 Speaker 16: still existing, are that women and men are equals, not 2320 02:06:16,880 --> 02:06:21,680 Speaker 16: equals exactly because they can do different things, but are 2321 02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:28,040 Speaker 16: respected equally. So what's happened at the moment is during 2322 02:06:28,120 --> 02:06:36,240 Speaker 16: this colonization that has been taking place for capitalist enterprises 2323 02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:40,400 Speaker 16: and various other things. The people who impose these ideas 2324 02:06:40,600 --> 02:06:44,480 Speaker 16: are actually male centered, and they come out of a 2325 02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:49,080 Speaker 16: cultural orientation where the male is supreme and the woman. 2326 02:06:49,240 --> 02:06:52,560 Speaker 16: And as I said earlier, you can look at the 2327 02:06:52,760 --> 02:06:59,160 Speaker 16: modern religions and see evidence of that as a spiritual 2328 02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:02,960 Speaker 16: way of looking at things. Of course it's not true, 2329 02:07:03,440 --> 02:07:06,040 Speaker 16: but how do we know that when we're not allowed 2330 02:07:06,120 --> 02:07:11,400 Speaker 16: to see outside the structure. But culture is essentially the 2331 02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:16,760 Speaker 16: difference amongst people because we're genetically ninety nine point nine 2332 02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:22,280 Speaker 16: percent the same, and we've constructed race is part of 2333 02:07:22,440 --> 02:07:29,080 Speaker 16: that patriarchal conditioning because it's a belief in hierarchy, just 2334 02:07:29,240 --> 02:07:33,280 Speaker 16: as a patriarchy is a belief in hierarchy. So right 2335 02:07:33,440 --> 02:07:38,360 Speaker 16: now in the world, we're living in a patriarchal, racist 2336 02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:44,520 Speaker 16: cultural orientation which has been imposed in all these different 2337 02:07:45,240 --> 02:07:50,760 Speaker 16: countries in Africa that have been created as the area 2338 02:07:51,480 --> 02:07:56,520 Speaker 16: for whichever European or Arabic country wants to control the 2339 02:07:56,640 --> 02:08:03,400 Speaker 16: resources and the people. The Essentially it's a patriarchal domain 2340 02:08:03,560 --> 02:08:09,360 Speaker 16: the whole of Africa. But underpinning that is the knowledge 2341 02:08:09,960 --> 02:08:14,440 Speaker 16: and the prevention of women and men who actually work together. 2342 02:08:15,160 --> 02:08:21,640 Speaker 16: And remember that this existed. It's forbidden in these religions 2343 02:08:22,280 --> 02:08:26,000 Speaker 16: and in these languages that are imposed upon Africa. So 2344 02:08:26,200 --> 02:08:31,040 Speaker 16: we're essentially looking at a conquered Africa that has been 2345 02:08:31,880 --> 02:08:36,800 Speaker 16: had these ideas of male supremacy. All these gods are 2346 02:08:36,840 --> 02:08:44,520 Speaker 16: all men. That male supremacy is, you know, is the 2347 02:08:45,440 --> 02:08:48,920 Speaker 16: is divine and the thing is that we're all impacted 2348 02:08:49,080 --> 02:08:52,160 Speaker 16: by that. And it doesn't matter what phenotype you are. 2349 02:08:52,200 --> 02:08:56,680 Speaker 16: It doesn't matter whether you're dark skin like in white, yellow, red, 2350 02:08:56,840 --> 02:09:01,800 Speaker 16: or brown. If that's the teaching that you have, that's 2351 02:09:01,920 --> 02:09:05,440 Speaker 16: what you will practice. So our thing is to go 2352 02:09:05,720 --> 02:09:08,960 Speaker 16: back to before that, what were we doing. And we 2353 02:09:09,160 --> 02:09:12,400 Speaker 16: find so much evidence to show that we were scientist, 2354 02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:21,440 Speaker 16: that we invented writing, we invented principles, moral principles and 2355 02:09:21,600 --> 02:09:26,800 Speaker 16: so on, which are not actually inside these modern religions. 2356 02:09:26,920 --> 02:09:29,880 Speaker 16: There are bits of it because that's where they got 2357 02:09:29,960 --> 02:09:34,400 Speaker 16: their ideas from. You know, we won't murder people, we 2358 02:09:34,480 --> 02:09:36,720 Speaker 16: won't do this, that and the other, but we actually 2359 02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:43,760 Speaker 16: do murder people. So it's the culture that is that 2360 02:09:44,080 --> 02:09:47,640 Speaker 16: is influencing how we live. So we can say to 2361 02:09:47,840 --> 02:09:51,600 Speaker 16: the Cels, come home, we will not commit this, will 2362 02:09:51,680 --> 02:09:54,640 Speaker 16: not commit that. But if you live in a culture 2363 02:09:54,680 --> 02:09:58,200 Speaker 16: where this is all you know, you do this every day, 2364 02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:04,600 Speaker 16: practice the religion that does that every day, then you 2365 02:10:04,880 --> 02:10:10,520 Speaker 16: can't actually carry out the principles that have been taken 2366 02:10:10,600 --> 02:10:14,920 Speaker 16: from the ancient times that appear in these modern religions, 2367 02:10:15,480 --> 02:10:21,200 Speaker 16: principles that are so ancient, and they cannot be carried 2368 02:10:21,280 --> 02:10:25,480 Speaker 16: out successfully in the environments that we live in, which 2369 02:10:25,560 --> 02:10:30,400 Speaker 16: are patriarchals. So black men, the dark skinned black men 2370 02:10:31,440 --> 02:10:35,400 Speaker 16: are just as can be, just as patriarchal as any 2371 02:10:35,480 --> 02:10:39,880 Speaker 16: other men. But it wasn't they who created that. But 2372 02:10:40,720 --> 02:10:46,040 Speaker 16: you know, in this race paradigm, but we are still 2373 02:10:46,200 --> 02:10:49,800 Speaker 16: practicing it, and it's a very sad thing. We don't 2374 02:10:49,920 --> 02:10:53,000 Speaker 16: know our history, we don't know who we were, we 2375 02:10:53,120 --> 02:10:57,200 Speaker 16: don't know culture is involved in all of this. I 2376 02:10:57,360 --> 02:10:59,840 Speaker 16: hope that makes sense to you. 2377 02:11:01,040 --> 02:11:02,920 Speaker 1: And I think it does, Doctor Dove. I'm going to 2378 02:11:03,040 --> 02:11:04,920 Speaker 1: keep on moving. I thank it's just the kashiva for 2379 02:11:05,000 --> 02:11:07,200 Speaker 1: your question. Ten minutes away from the top of that, 2380 02:11:07,760 --> 02:11:10,160 Speaker 1: let's go to Connecticut Cliffs waiting for us. He's online two. 2381 02:11:10,200 --> 02:11:12,560 Speaker 1: He has a question for your grand Rising Cliff, your 2382 02:11:12,640 --> 02:11:13,640 Speaker 1: question for doctor Dove. 2383 02:11:14,360 --> 02:11:17,080 Speaker 17: The grand Rising brother Colin and doctor Duff just want 2384 02:11:17,120 --> 02:11:20,320 Speaker 17: to get a clarification and just to get clarity on 2385 02:11:21,160 --> 02:11:25,480 Speaker 17: three terms. Now that the duff in Africa is there, 2386 02:11:25,680 --> 02:11:29,920 Speaker 17: can it be a situation of tribalism, meaning that we 2387 02:11:30,080 --> 02:11:34,520 Speaker 17: have one tribe going against going against another the tutsis 2388 02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:39,560 Speaker 17: the Hutus. That's tribalism in which black people kill each other. However, 2389 02:11:39,720 --> 02:11:42,640 Speaker 17: here in America, a lot of black people believe that 2390 02:11:43,040 --> 02:11:46,320 Speaker 17: we and you mentioned the word racism, Black people can 2391 02:11:46,360 --> 02:11:49,520 Speaker 17: be racist and we simply can't do that because of 2392 02:11:49,560 --> 02:11:52,560 Speaker 17: the fact that we don't have the ability, order resources 2393 02:11:52,600 --> 02:11:56,600 Speaker 17: to oppress the people. And then we had xenophobia, you know. 2394 02:11:56,720 --> 02:11:59,760 Speaker 17: So can you please explain the difference in those three 2395 02:12:00,440 --> 02:12:03,480 Speaker 17: and then which one is applicable to black people as 2396 02:12:03,520 --> 02:12:05,360 Speaker 17: well as white people here in this country. 2397 02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:12,440 Speaker 16: Okay, I'll do my best. Tribalism is a Eurocentric word 2398 02:12:13,400 --> 02:12:23,120 Speaker 16: that is to debase the African person, to see people 2399 02:12:23,600 --> 02:12:29,920 Speaker 16: as tribes fighting each other. But actually there's no such 2400 02:12:30,040 --> 02:12:34,400 Speaker 16: thing as a tribe. It's just nations of people, because 2401 02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:41,160 Speaker 16: nations have their own institutions that they practice and follow. 2402 02:12:42,760 --> 02:12:47,320 Speaker 16: In the conquest of Africa, it was absolutely necessary because 2403 02:12:47,360 --> 02:12:53,840 Speaker 16: the Africans had a sort of cultural unity that they understood, 2404 02:12:53,960 --> 02:12:58,080 Speaker 16: so even if there were different names for different spiritual systems, 2405 02:12:58,120 --> 02:13:04,920 Speaker 16: they were all basically moving towards thoughts of balance and 2406 02:13:05,200 --> 02:13:09,320 Speaker 16: truth and relations. And if you act this way, this 2407 02:13:09,480 --> 02:13:11,840 Speaker 16: will happen to you if you act this way. So 2408 02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:18,840 Speaker 16: they're all respecting ancestors, children, women, so, and the conquerors 2409 02:13:19,280 --> 02:13:25,440 Speaker 16: had to be able to divide African people along nation lines. 2410 02:13:26,440 --> 02:13:29,000 Speaker 16: If we go back to Chemic, there were forty two 2411 02:13:29,320 --> 02:13:34,240 Speaker 16: nations who helped the build Chemic and live in Chemic peacefully. 2412 02:13:34,760 --> 02:13:38,960 Speaker 16: We have evidence of that. But the tribalism is just 2413 02:13:39,080 --> 02:13:42,320 Speaker 16: a negative word, an excuse to say that all these 2414 02:13:42,480 --> 02:13:45,840 Speaker 16: different nations came together and fought each other. And they 2415 02:13:45,960 --> 02:13:50,400 Speaker 16: came together and fought each other because when the conquerors came, 2416 02:13:50,840 --> 02:13:53,840 Speaker 16: they had already divided Africa, but when they went to 2417 02:13:54,520 --> 02:13:57,840 Speaker 16: their particular section of it, they knew that people would 2418 02:13:57,880 --> 02:14:01,800 Speaker 16: be united even if they were different nations, because they 2419 02:14:01,880 --> 02:14:06,400 Speaker 16: had so many similarities. So they then began to provide 2420 02:14:06,520 --> 02:14:14,080 Speaker 16: false information about the superiority of this nation over another. 2421 02:14:14,240 --> 02:14:16,640 Speaker 16: And when they took the land, they didn't divide it 2422 02:14:16,840 --> 02:14:20,160 Speaker 16: in terms of where the nations were. So there are 2423 02:14:20,280 --> 02:14:24,480 Speaker 16: some countries where the major nations lived on that land, 2424 02:14:25,040 --> 02:14:30,280 Speaker 16: and actually there has no control over the over what 2425 02:14:30,560 --> 02:14:33,840 Speaker 16: happens to that land, over the governing of that land. 2426 02:14:34,440 --> 02:14:37,320 Speaker 16: So this is how you So you always have to 2427 02:14:37,480 --> 02:14:42,680 Speaker 16: create this kind of tension amongst people, and because of 2428 02:14:42,920 --> 02:14:48,560 Speaker 16: the culture of patriarchy and race, it's always about rising 2429 02:14:48,720 --> 02:14:52,000 Speaker 16: up and killing people. That's the only answer it has. 2430 02:14:52,160 --> 02:14:55,880 Speaker 16: It's always like that. Wherever you go, the answer is 2431 02:14:56,040 --> 02:15:01,400 Speaker 16: killed the people. But the ancient answer in an African 2432 02:15:01,600 --> 02:15:05,880 Speaker 16: setting is that we discussing and we come to an agreement. 2433 02:15:06,240 --> 02:15:12,320 Speaker 16: And it's even in Greek philosophies who learned from Africa. 2434 02:15:12,520 --> 02:15:15,960 Speaker 16: Even they said that although they weren't practiced in it, 2435 02:15:16,440 --> 02:15:20,080 Speaker 16: but then they learned about it. So it's a way 2436 02:15:20,160 --> 02:15:26,560 Speaker 16: of dividing people so that they're constantly aggravated by the 2437 02:15:26,760 --> 02:15:32,360 Speaker 16: unfairness and hierarchical structures that have been created in the 2438 02:15:32,680 --> 02:15:37,520 Speaker 16: image of the European world or the Arabic world, which 2439 02:15:37,640 --> 02:15:38,640 Speaker 16: does the same thing. 2440 02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:40,760 Speaker 4: You know, has. 2441 02:15:40,760 --> 02:15:46,000 Speaker 16: Hierarchy where the blackest people at the bottom, and you know, 2442 02:15:46,200 --> 02:15:49,280 Speaker 16: so that's one thing I hope that kind of looks 2443 02:15:49,360 --> 02:15:53,920 Speaker 16: that tribalism as a myth. It isn't true. We've become 2444 02:15:54,240 --> 02:15:57,280 Speaker 16: like that because we believe it, but prior to that 2445 02:15:57,800 --> 02:15:58,760 Speaker 16: it didn't exist. 2446 02:16:00,400 --> 02:16:03,280 Speaker 1: Right about can black people be racist? 2447 02:16:04,320 --> 02:16:07,640 Speaker 16: Well, the thing is that what is it to be racist? 2448 02:16:07,720 --> 02:16:11,920 Speaker 16: We're looking at it from an economic perspective. In many 2449 02:16:12,040 --> 02:16:16,240 Speaker 16: ways we're saying that we don't have the power to 2450 02:16:17,200 --> 02:16:22,040 Speaker 16: be racist, but actually you can be psychologically. You can 2451 02:16:22,200 --> 02:16:26,080 Speaker 16: commit psychological damage to people if you believe in the 2452 02:16:26,240 --> 02:16:30,160 Speaker 16: race paradigm. We're all trained. We're all trained to believe 2453 02:16:30,240 --> 02:16:33,400 Speaker 16: in the inferiority of the blackest skinned people and the 2454 02:16:33,560 --> 02:16:41,280 Speaker 16: superiority of the lightest skin people within something called We're 2455 02:16:41,320 --> 02:16:45,800 Speaker 16: all Black. I know that I'm a privileged person in it, 2456 02:16:46,680 --> 02:16:50,400 Speaker 16: and we can carry out the set. It is racism 2457 02:16:50,840 --> 02:16:55,800 Speaker 16: even amongst ourselves. So we can raise children feeling inferior 2458 02:16:55,920 --> 02:16:59,560 Speaker 16: or inferior because they're the darker kids in the family 2459 02:17:00,320 --> 02:17:04,240 Speaker 16: and the privileged lighter ones. We could do it the 2460 02:17:04,320 --> 02:17:10,440 Speaker 16: opposite way, but all of it is about hierarchy and superiority. 2461 02:17:11,080 --> 02:17:15,240 Speaker 16: You know, going back into history, these darkest skinned people, 2462 02:17:15,320 --> 02:17:18,800 Speaker 16: if we're going to casinos types, are the people that 2463 02:17:19,040 --> 02:17:20,879 Speaker 16: brought sciences and. 2464 02:17:23,000 --> 02:17:28,440 Speaker 1: Spirit hopef we were having last Doctor Dove sounds like 2465 02:17:28,680 --> 02:17:31,200 Speaker 1: a phone drop there, Kevin for Away from the top 2466 02:17:31,240 --> 02:17:32,720 Speaker 1: of the R table. We come up front of break, 2467 02:17:32,760 --> 02:17:34,879 Speaker 1: so Kevin, see if you can get doctor Dove backer 2468 02:17:34,920 --> 02:17:37,680 Speaker 1: since she was making an important point there, three away 2469 02:17:37,680 --> 02:17:38,920 Speaker 1: from the top of the R. Let's take the break 2470 02:17:39,000 --> 02:17:41,119 Speaker 1: and come back, and so our stations can identify themselves 2471 02:17:41,160 --> 02:17:43,279 Speaker 1: down the line. Family, I guess is doctor now Doves. 2472 02:17:43,480 --> 02:17:46,360 Speaker 1: She's an africology professor at Temple University in Philly. You 2473 02:17:46,520 --> 02:17:48,080 Speaker 1: like to speak to her, reach out to us real 2474 02:17:48,200 --> 02:17:50,920 Speaker 1: quickly at eight hundred and four or five zero seventy 2475 02:17:50,959 --> 02:17:53,480 Speaker 1: eight seventy six, and we're taking phone calls next and 2476 02:17:53,640 --> 02:17:55,800 Speaker 1: Grand Rising family, thanks for sticking with us on this 2477 02:17:55,879 --> 02:17:58,359 Speaker 1: Wednesday morning with I guess they're from a Temple University. 2478 02:17:58,400 --> 02:18:02,000 Speaker 1: She's an africology professor. Is a doctor, not Dove. Her 2479 02:18:02,080 --> 02:18:07,119 Speaker 1: name is doctor dev but she is a doctor, a PhD. 2480 02:18:07,560 --> 02:18:09,840 Speaker 1: And we're discussing her new book and I think we 2481 02:18:09,959 --> 02:18:13,280 Speaker 1: got it back, Doctor w responding to the question from 2482 02:18:13,360 --> 02:18:16,120 Speaker 1: A Cliffin, Connecticut about can black people be racist? So 2483 02:18:16,160 --> 02:18:17,240 Speaker 1: I'll let you finish your thought. 2484 02:18:18,840 --> 02:18:21,760 Speaker 16: Yes, we see. The thing is that we live in 2485 02:18:21,879 --> 02:18:27,360 Speaker 16: a racist society and what has happened is that part 2486 02:18:27,480 --> 02:18:31,280 Speaker 16: of domination is to fill our minds with the belief 2487 02:18:31,400 --> 02:18:36,120 Speaker 16: of the dominators. So we often view ourselves through the 2488 02:18:36,240 --> 02:18:40,240 Speaker 16: eyes of the conqueror, and the conqueror wants us to 2489 02:18:40,480 --> 02:18:45,000 Speaker 16: believe that race is real, so we can practice forms 2490 02:18:45,080 --> 02:18:48,480 Speaker 16: of it in our own families and amongst our friends 2491 02:18:48,560 --> 02:18:53,119 Speaker 16: and so on, because that is what we're being asked 2492 02:18:53,240 --> 02:18:53,440 Speaker 16: to do. 2493 02:18:54,160 --> 02:18:54,200 Speaker 8: It. 2494 02:18:54,760 --> 02:18:57,879 Speaker 16: Being black does not absolve you, It does not take 2495 02:18:58,000 --> 02:19:03,119 Speaker 16: you away from your minds. One's mind is like anybody's mind. 2496 02:19:03,240 --> 02:19:08,480 Speaker 16: It can be infiltrated with lives. And so even though 2497 02:19:08,560 --> 02:19:15,640 Speaker 16: we have black people, we're all of different colors, and 2498 02:19:16,120 --> 02:19:20,400 Speaker 16: in that we still can practice and often do practice 2499 02:19:20,840 --> 02:19:26,000 Speaker 16: the racialization of humanity amongst ourselves. And we have to 2500 02:19:26,120 --> 02:19:29,120 Speaker 16: watch out for that because if we say we have 2501 02:19:29,400 --> 02:19:33,480 Speaker 16: no power to be racist, that is if we don't 2502 02:19:33,600 --> 02:19:40,600 Speaker 16: have the economic and governing and political power. But we 2503 02:19:40,920 --> 02:19:46,119 Speaker 16: have power, we have agency, and we affect our children 2504 02:19:46,240 --> 02:19:50,879 Speaker 16: when we're raising them, and our lives when we're with people, 2505 02:19:51,440 --> 02:19:57,320 Speaker 16: and we often use the conqueror's white supremacist ideas, and 2506 02:19:57,480 --> 02:20:02,039 Speaker 16: not all conquerors are white supremacist, this is the central point. 2507 02:20:02,800 --> 02:20:06,480 Speaker 16: But we can use white supremacy to look at each other. 2508 02:20:07,080 --> 02:20:10,480 Speaker 16: Our minds is just as vulnerable, and we often do this. 2509 02:20:10,760 --> 02:20:14,840 Speaker 16: We've said some people have good heir, bad heir to light, 2510 02:20:15,000 --> 02:20:21,200 Speaker 16: too dark, and we affect each other emotionally and psychologically, 2511 02:20:21,480 --> 02:20:25,080 Speaker 16: and this is very, very powerful, and so we can't 2512 02:20:25,200 --> 02:20:29,600 Speaker 16: dismiss it just because economically we don't have the power 2513 02:20:29,720 --> 02:20:30,200 Speaker 16: to do that. 2514 02:20:31,040 --> 02:20:32,840 Speaker 1: Well, let me jumping here for a second, doctor Doug, 2515 02:20:32,879 --> 02:20:35,360 Speaker 1: because I think what Cliff is saying that we can 2516 02:20:35,480 --> 02:20:39,440 Speaker 1: be prejudiced. But somehow racism implies that you have to 2517 02:20:39,520 --> 02:20:42,320 Speaker 1: have some sort of power to be a racist. Can 2518 02:20:42,400 --> 02:20:43,480 Speaker 1: you flesh that out for us? 2519 02:20:44,240 --> 02:20:51,360 Speaker 16: Yeah, we have power, we have agency. We can participate 2520 02:20:51,520 --> 02:20:55,480 Speaker 16: in this or not participate in this. But we are 2521 02:20:55,640 --> 02:20:59,880 Speaker 16: taught every day about the superiority of the light skin 2522 02:21:00,200 --> 02:21:03,760 Speaker 16: person and the inferiority of the black skin person, and 2523 02:21:03,879 --> 02:21:08,279 Speaker 16: we can often and I have many students who actually 2524 02:21:08,520 --> 02:21:14,160 Speaker 16: have experienced this, we can despise ourselves because we're black 2525 02:21:14,240 --> 02:21:17,039 Speaker 16: and we can't change it. We may, you know, get 2526 02:21:17,200 --> 02:21:21,320 Speaker 16: light skin color and all that type of thing to change, 2527 02:21:22,680 --> 02:21:26,480 Speaker 16: but we can actually despise ourselves and it will show 2528 02:21:26,840 --> 02:21:30,360 Speaker 16: in how we raise our families or treat each other. 2529 02:21:30,520 --> 02:21:34,240 Speaker 16: We can dislike each other because we're too light, too dark, 2530 02:21:34,920 --> 02:21:38,880 Speaker 16: and we have the same lens that we're looking through 2531 02:21:39,200 --> 02:21:44,440 Speaker 16: through the imposition of the culture orientation of racist, so 2532 02:21:44,600 --> 02:21:51,160 Speaker 16: we're not I don't know. So let's say the person 2533 02:21:51,320 --> 02:21:55,760 Speaker 16: in the Supreme Court who does nothing for black people 2534 02:21:56,080 --> 02:21:59,480 Speaker 16: and is a black man, a very black man, but 2535 02:22:00,120 --> 02:22:08,480 Speaker 16: his orientation is the culture dominant culture orientation, which is patriarchy. 2536 02:22:08,600 --> 02:22:12,640 Speaker 16: In race, they're intertwined. You can't have one without the other. 2537 02:22:12,760 --> 02:22:16,440 Speaker 16: That they come together. And he I'm just using him 2538 02:22:16,480 --> 02:22:19,879 Speaker 16: as an example because he's in the highest position really 2539 02:22:20,040 --> 02:22:25,160 Speaker 16: that a black person can be in and has not 2540 02:22:25,360 --> 02:22:30,320 Speaker 16: done a lot to help black people. So you know, 2541 02:22:30,480 --> 02:22:35,840 Speaker 16: he is actually practicing racism, you know, because he's been 2542 02:22:35,959 --> 02:22:38,520 Speaker 16: taught that. We've all been taught this, and some of 2543 02:22:38,680 --> 02:22:44,000 Speaker 16: us have the luxury, not the privilege of being able 2544 02:22:44,120 --> 02:22:48,640 Speaker 16: to see outside it. But that's what I'm saying, that 2545 02:22:48,800 --> 02:22:53,640 Speaker 16: it's certainly possible to be a racist, and it's about 2546 02:22:53,720 --> 02:22:58,519 Speaker 16: believing in race. We sometimes say that we're practicing colorism. 2547 02:22:58,640 --> 02:23:02,560 Speaker 16: It doesn't make it any It's not a nice thing. 2548 02:23:03,240 --> 02:23:07,360 Speaker 16: Colorism is racism. We can't make it gentle when we're 2549 02:23:07,920 --> 02:23:12,720 Speaker 16: despising our own and hierarchicalizing our own people who have 2550 02:23:12,879 --> 02:23:17,959 Speaker 16: gone through enslavement and all colonization and so on as 2551 02:23:18,080 --> 02:23:19,199 Speaker 16: inferior people. 2552 02:23:22,360 --> 02:23:25,920 Speaker 1: But well, help us out here again, doctor Dove, because 2553 02:23:25,920 --> 02:23:29,520 Speaker 1: we've got folks who you say, everyone originated in Africa. 2554 02:23:29,600 --> 02:23:31,920 Speaker 1: So if you're looking at an Asian person, is he 2555 02:23:32,000 --> 02:23:35,120 Speaker 1: African as well? Can he decide that he's an African? 2556 02:23:35,160 --> 02:23:38,840 Speaker 1: And eskimo, is he an African or European? Is everybody African? 2557 02:23:39,600 --> 02:23:44,200 Speaker 16: Yes, everybody is a Homo sapian, the modern human who 2558 02:23:44,360 --> 02:23:48,560 Speaker 16: came out of Africa and populated the world. About fifty 2559 02:23:48,680 --> 02:23:52,640 Speaker 16: to seventy thousand years ago. Africans left the continent and 2560 02:23:52,800 --> 02:23:57,000 Speaker 16: populated the world. So all the first nations, people of 2561 02:23:57,240 --> 02:24:01,360 Speaker 16: people in Brazil in the rainforest being killed, all the 2562 02:24:01,560 --> 02:24:07,200 Speaker 16: people that were originally here before genocide was committed against 2563 02:24:07,280 --> 02:24:13,840 Speaker 16: them all have African origins and the culture. Like say, 2564 02:24:13,959 --> 02:24:18,720 Speaker 16: when Christopher Columbus went to i Et and he met 2565 02:24:18,800 --> 02:24:22,200 Speaker 16: the Taino people there, he wrote in his diary, how 2566 02:24:22,320 --> 02:24:25,400 Speaker 16: beautiful they were, et cetera, et cetera. They had women 2567 02:24:25,640 --> 02:24:30,920 Speaker 16: leaders and so on. So and they were fairly dark skins, 2568 02:24:31,280 --> 02:24:33,520 Speaker 16: you know in some of the paintings that you see. 2569 02:24:35,240 --> 02:24:40,200 Speaker 16: But even though he thought that that these were beautiful people, 2570 02:24:40,400 --> 02:24:43,720 Speaker 16: he still tried to enslave them, and he actually murdered 2571 02:24:43,760 --> 02:24:44,760 Speaker 16: them personally. 2572 02:24:45,760 --> 02:24:46,240 Speaker 7: And so. 2573 02:24:48,360 --> 02:24:53,240 Speaker 16: You know, it's uh, we don't recognize in the in 2574 02:24:54,480 --> 02:24:57,720 Speaker 16: we've got two sets of people that are close to 2575 02:24:58,160 --> 02:25:02,320 Speaker 16: African matriarchal value and beliefs. And that's the first nations 2576 02:25:02,400 --> 02:25:07,560 Speaker 16: people that we're here. As you know today, I'm standing 2577 02:25:07,680 --> 02:25:12,320 Speaker 16: on Lenape Lands, the land of the Lenamy Lenomy people. 2578 02:25:13,040 --> 02:25:15,880 Speaker 16: Why aren't I told anything about it? I try to 2579 02:25:16,120 --> 02:25:20,480 Speaker 16: bring that into focus in the book. These are the 2580 02:25:20,600 --> 02:25:24,119 Speaker 16: first African people. And you can tell by their culture, 2581 02:25:24,800 --> 02:25:28,080 Speaker 16: not necessarily how they look at their culture. What are 2582 02:25:28,160 --> 02:25:31,920 Speaker 16: their values and beliefs. They believe in the ancestors. 2583 02:25:32,000 --> 02:25:32,320 Speaker 10: They have. 2584 02:25:33,959 --> 02:25:36,000 Speaker 13: Male men and women. 2585 02:25:36,879 --> 02:25:41,720 Speaker 16: Respected for their work, love of children, so on and 2586 02:25:41,920 --> 02:25:45,160 Speaker 16: so forth. These are all African ways. And there are 2587 02:25:45,240 --> 02:25:51,480 Speaker 16: people who don't look like the classical African, the classical 2588 02:25:51,560 --> 02:25:58,040 Speaker 16: African person. We're all homosopien. So a person three hundred 2589 02:25:58,080 --> 02:26:01,160 Speaker 16: and fifty thousand years old could walk into a room 2590 02:26:01,200 --> 02:26:03,400 Speaker 16: and look like us. We wouldn't be able to tell 2591 02:26:03,480 --> 02:26:07,160 Speaker 16: the difference, except that since then some of us have 2592 02:26:07,440 --> 02:26:11,640 Speaker 16: lightened up, but we would look the same. And that. 2593 02:26:13,360 --> 02:26:18,440 Speaker 1: Yes, right there before we let you go and I 2594 02:26:18,640 --> 02:26:20,160 Speaker 1: just want to thank you because I learned so much 2595 02:26:20,200 --> 02:26:22,600 Speaker 1: this morning. Give us a tile of your book one 2596 02:26:22,640 --> 02:26:24,800 Speaker 1: more time, and how can we get copies? 2597 02:26:25,680 --> 02:26:31,120 Speaker 16: Okay, you can. It's a book. Pub is a published 2598 02:26:31,200 --> 02:26:36,360 Speaker 16: by a black woman, dr Ayo Sakai. She does black books. 2599 02:26:37,480 --> 02:26:44,760 Speaker 16: But you can purchase it from from Amazon and Bards 2600 02:26:44,800 --> 02:26:47,320 Speaker 16: and Nobles. You can order it from them. It goes 2601 02:26:47,440 --> 02:26:52,840 Speaker 16: into any of those shops. It's published by United the 2602 02:26:53,360 --> 02:27:03,480 Speaker 16: UWP and the book is teaching teachers the Afrocentric model 2603 02:27:04,000 --> 02:27:10,280 Speaker 16: of education. And it's very easily easy to read. You know, 2604 02:27:10,440 --> 02:27:14,199 Speaker 16: it's not a book where I'm using high foluting words 2605 02:27:14,320 --> 02:27:21,199 Speaker 16: and it's just you know, just information knowledge I would 2606 02:27:21,280 --> 02:27:25,200 Speaker 16: call it. That is useful for anyone who wants to 2607 02:27:25,400 --> 02:27:30,960 Speaker 16: have a more comprehensive picture of what is education and 2608 02:27:31,080 --> 02:27:35,760 Speaker 16: what are we teaching people and the history of humanity, 2609 02:27:36,560 --> 02:27:39,200 Speaker 16: you know, obviously it's a bigger history that can be 2610 02:27:39,320 --> 02:27:41,680 Speaker 16: in this book. It's not a huge book. It's spelled 2611 02:27:42,200 --> 02:27:45,680 Speaker 16: two hundred pages, but it gives you the foundation of 2612 02:27:45,840 --> 02:27:50,240 Speaker 16: doing extra work, extra research, but it gives you an 2613 02:27:50,440 --> 02:27:52,480 Speaker 16: understanding of where we're at. 2614 02:27:52,760 --> 02:27:54,560 Speaker 1: Well, I just want to thank you for doing that 2615 02:27:55,240 --> 02:27:57,400 Speaker 1: for us, doctor job, because you did the research and 2616 02:27:57,480 --> 02:27:59,440 Speaker 1: you put it in a book read and we send 2617 02:27:59,480 --> 02:27:59,959 Speaker 1: a in your. 2618 02:28:00,080 --> 02:28:05,640 Speaker 16: Ask like you, I thank you for having me on 2619 02:28:05,760 --> 02:28:06,160 Speaker 16: the show. 2620 02:28:07,400 --> 02:28:11,760 Speaker 1: Tweet questions for you. Thank you, Doctor Dove. Family. That's 2621 02:28:12,040 --> 02:28:15,120 Speaker 1: Dr now Duff. She's an afrocology professor at Temple University 2622 02:28:15,160 --> 02:28:18,200 Speaker 1: and she's written a new book and interesting conversations we 2623 02:28:18,320 --> 02:28:19,920 Speaker 1: have and like you know, I just went on there 2624 02:28:19,920 --> 02:28:22,000 Speaker 1: and see whether the students thought about it. They have 2625 02:28:22,120 --> 02:28:25,360 Speaker 1: this thing called rachel Professor or something, and she's rated 2626 02:28:25,640 --> 02:28:29,160 Speaker 1: almost universally a plus up there, so she's one of 2627 02:28:29,200 --> 02:28:31,960 Speaker 1: the best in the business when it comes discussing afrocentric 2628 02:28:32,200 --> 02:28:35,760 Speaker 1: efficentric issues. Eight hundred and four or five zero seventy 2629 02:28:35,800 --> 02:28:38,120 Speaker 1: eight seventy six. Thank again, Doctor Dove. Let's turn our 2630 02:28:38,120 --> 02:28:41,600 Speaker 1: attention there to our next guest, economist, doctor Julian Malveaux 2631 02:28:41,760 --> 02:28:45,640 Speaker 1: DTR Malveaux, Grand Rising, Welcome back to the program, Grand. 2632 02:28:45,480 --> 02:28:49,680 Speaker 13: Rising, thanks for holding for me. Apologies for being a 2633 02:28:49,720 --> 02:28:52,880 Speaker 13: little late, but I'm happy to be here. 2634 02:28:53,560 --> 02:28:57,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's worth the wait. DTR Malveaux. Here's the question. 2635 02:28:57,240 --> 02:28:59,240 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, you I guess you saw you heard that 2636 02:28:59,400 --> 02:29:02,720 Speaker 1: he did at his is a news conference on Tuesday, 2637 02:29:02,879 --> 02:29:07,080 Speaker 1: saying the America is great. We're the hottest country and 2638 02:29:07,400 --> 02:29:10,520 Speaker 1: our economy is the hottest that. I mean, you got 2639 02:29:10,600 --> 02:29:12,880 Speaker 1: to teach him some new words, some new adjectives. But 2640 02:29:13,360 --> 02:29:15,840 Speaker 1: he says we're doing well. He says, you know, prices 2641 02:29:15,879 --> 02:29:18,840 Speaker 1: it down, the stock market's doing well. Uh what say you, 2642 02:29:18,879 --> 02:29:21,160 Speaker 1: because you're an economist? Is he telling the truth or 2643 02:29:21,280 --> 02:29:22,680 Speaker 1: is he just blowing smoke? 2644 02:29:22,760 --> 02:29:25,600 Speaker 13: When has he ever told the truth? Carled Nelson? When 2645 02:29:25,840 --> 02:29:28,880 Speaker 13: is he ever told the truth? I mean he's salivating 2646 02:29:28,920 --> 02:29:32,520 Speaker 13: over Greenland because that diverts us from our failing economy. 2647 02:29:33,080 --> 02:29:37,199 Speaker 13: There are too many people who are too hungry, too tired, 2648 02:29:37,760 --> 02:29:43,160 Speaker 13: too collected, to collected. He says that our country is hot. 2649 02:29:44,320 --> 02:29:46,840 Speaker 13: I go chill us up in a minute. 2650 02:29:47,720 --> 02:29:47,840 Speaker 4: Uh. 2651 02:29:49,800 --> 02:29:52,160 Speaker 13: You know, I don't even know why even bother ever 2652 02:29:52,840 --> 02:29:56,560 Speaker 13: to listen to the nonsense that he spews. But the 2653 02:29:56,680 --> 02:29:59,960 Speaker 13: fact is that the economy is not horrible, but it's 2654 02:30:00,160 --> 02:30:04,360 Speaker 13: not great either. Inflation is relatively contained. But his war 2655 02:30:04,560 --> 02:30:09,320 Speaker 13: with the Fed is not going anywhere today. Later they'll 2656 02:30:09,400 --> 02:30:12,880 Speaker 13: have hearings on Lisa Cook, which is absurd. This woman 2657 02:30:13,120 --> 02:30:16,439 Speaker 13: is a brilliant economist who should not be under this scrutiny. 2658 02:30:18,640 --> 02:30:20,640 Speaker 13: So we got that going on the whole thing he's 2659 02:30:20,680 --> 02:30:24,080 Speaker 13: got with the FED. Meanwhile, he's trying to impose teriff 2660 02:30:24,160 --> 02:30:27,879 Speaker 13: on anybody who doesn't agree with him. This is internationally 2661 02:30:28,000 --> 02:30:34,360 Speaker 13: destabilizing and they're at DeVos right now where he is 2662 02:30:35,320 --> 02:30:40,320 Speaker 13: disrespecting our European allies that we've depended on in so 2663 02:30:40,480 --> 02:30:43,360 Speaker 13: many years. Well, he's not telling the truth, but he 2664 02:30:43,400 --> 02:30:45,800 Speaker 13: would know the truth that laid the bed with him. 2665 02:30:46,440 --> 02:30:48,920 Speaker 1: Oh wow, fourteen have the top their family. I guess 2666 02:30:48,920 --> 02:30:53,440 Speaker 1: it's doctor Julian Malvosch's an MIT trained economist, discussing all 2667 02:30:53,520 --> 02:30:55,880 Speaker 1: things about the economy. Donald Trump says he's doing great, 2668 02:30:56,120 --> 02:30:58,360 Speaker 1: But what do you think? Are you feeling great? You 2669 02:30:58,440 --> 02:31:01,160 Speaker 1: mentioned that he's ad Dallas are speaking between the speaking 2670 02:31:01,200 --> 02:31:04,279 Speaker 1: of the European leaders. He's demanding that he wants Greenland. 2671 02:31:04,760 --> 02:31:07,840 Speaker 1: Is just something behind that, and he's also chastising quote 2672 02:31:07,920 --> 02:31:10,640 Speaker 1: unquote our allies. Your thoughts, doctor malvo. 2673 02:31:11,560 --> 02:31:15,960 Speaker 13: Well, the Greenland thing is this, Greenland is strategically located. 2674 02:31:16,080 --> 02:31:19,160 Speaker 13: There are seven countries. Had a butt Greenland. You know 2675 02:31:19,680 --> 02:31:24,760 Speaker 13: it is a part of Denmark, but you know there 2676 02:31:24,800 --> 02:31:31,000 Speaker 13: are several countries, including Russia, but Greenland. He wants Greenland 2677 02:31:31,160 --> 02:31:37,440 Speaker 13: because it does have critical minerals that everybody else wants, 2678 02:31:38,040 --> 02:31:42,600 Speaker 13: including China, which is not there, but they are working 2679 02:31:42,640 --> 02:31:48,120 Speaker 13: in concert with Russia. He wants global dominance, and part 2680 02:31:48,160 --> 02:31:51,800 Speaker 13: of global dominance would be having this mineral rich country 2681 02:31:52,400 --> 02:32:00,440 Speaker 13: that certainly is international play. Russia wants it too, belongs 2682 02:32:00,560 --> 02:32:05,360 Speaker 13: to Europe. It is a NATO country. He's picking a 2683 02:32:05,480 --> 02:32:09,040 Speaker 13: fight with an ally. We can't win that fight. We've 2684 02:32:09,120 --> 02:32:11,920 Speaker 13: turned the world against us. We're certainly of NATO countries 2685 02:32:12,200 --> 02:32:15,600 Speaker 13: that we've been alliance with, Carl for decades. 2686 02:32:16,480 --> 02:32:19,680 Speaker 1: Uh well, let me let me jump in and ask 2687 02:32:19,680 --> 02:32:21,520 Speaker 1: you this. Then, since we're a NATO, let me ask 2688 02:32:21,560 --> 02:32:24,200 Speaker 1: you this is could he could he do this? Hopefully 2689 02:32:24,360 --> 02:32:29,440 Speaker 1: destroyed NATO because then fround, this is what Putin wants 2690 02:32:29,520 --> 02:32:32,439 Speaker 1: and he knows he can cause all kinds of disturbances 2691 02:32:32,560 --> 02:32:35,119 Speaker 1: because he mentioned Article five. It will trigger Article five, 2692 02:32:35,200 --> 02:32:37,760 Speaker 1: so NATO has to respond. In fact, the Brits and 2693 02:32:37,879 --> 02:32:41,760 Speaker 1: the French have been sending troops uh to Greenland? Is 2694 02:32:41,800 --> 02:32:44,000 Speaker 1: this is this? Is this? What is it? Really? This 2695 02:32:44,160 --> 02:32:46,480 Speaker 1: is what he wants? Or do you see it's the minerals? 2696 02:32:47,800 --> 02:32:56,160 Speaker 13: Well no, Uh, Putin is playing chess. Trump is playing checkers. 2697 02:32:57,320 --> 02:33:04,400 Speaker 13: Cwton wants NATO imploded. Think about all the implications of 2698 02:33:04,840 --> 02:33:10,119 Speaker 13: losing NATO. Right now, Ukraine is a candidate to enter NATO. 2699 02:33:10,800 --> 02:33:17,119 Speaker 13: If Ukraine enters NATO, what happens the Russian attack assault 2700 02:33:17,320 --> 02:33:22,000 Speaker 13: on Ukraine will be responded by the European countries. So far, 2701 02:33:22,160 --> 02:33:29,800 Speaker 13: European countries have sent resources, but they have not gotten 2702 02:33:29,879 --> 02:33:34,160 Speaker 13: into the war part as much as they could if 2703 02:33:34,280 --> 02:33:36,680 Speaker 13: NATO was part of a Ukraine is part of NATO. 2704 02:33:37,320 --> 02:33:42,360 Speaker 13: The war is on. We've had relative stability, relative stability 2705 02:33:42,879 --> 02:33:47,360 Speaker 13: outside of the Middle East for some years. Cwton is 2706 02:33:47,920 --> 02:33:52,400 Speaker 13: licking his shot of the provocations because he knows Trump 2707 02:33:52,520 --> 02:33:56,960 Speaker 13: better than we know Trump. Trump is a narcissistic egomaniac 2708 02:33:57,320 --> 02:34:01,640 Speaker 13: who cannot stand being told no. So he wants Ukraine. 2709 02:34:02,480 --> 02:34:05,880 Speaker 13: Now Ukraine. Sorry, he wants Greenland. They've told him he 2710 02:34:06,000 --> 02:34:08,080 Speaker 13: can't have it, so he said he's going to have 2711 02:34:08,200 --> 02:34:09,680 Speaker 13: it the easy way or the hard way. 2712 02:34:10,520 --> 02:34:11,680 Speaker 10: Well, the market is. 2713 02:34:11,680 --> 02:34:15,680 Speaker 13: Going to blow up NATO and then Tuton comes in and. 2714 02:34:15,760 --> 02:34:18,119 Speaker 1: Smashes all right, hold up the right there at Dr 2715 02:34:18,160 --> 02:34:20,320 Speaker 1: Malvaux seventeen minutes at the top there. I also want 2716 02:34:20,360 --> 02:34:23,320 Speaker 1: to talk about these tariffses he's boasting about the tarifsh 2717 02:34:23,360 --> 02:34:27,440 Speaker 1: have reduced the prices. Who pays when he poses tariffs 2718 02:34:27,440 --> 02:34:29,760 Speaker 1: as he's threatened to do over Greenland. Well, I'll let 2719 02:34:29,800 --> 02:34:31,640 Speaker 1: you explain that when we get back. Family, if you 2720 02:34:31,760 --> 02:34:34,480 Speaker 1: two can join our discussion with doctor Julian Malvaux. She's 2721 02:34:34,520 --> 02:34:36,959 Speaker 1: an economist. You can reach her at eight hundred four 2722 02:34:37,080 --> 02:34:40,360 Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your 2723 02:34:40,360 --> 02:34:43,200 Speaker 1: phone calls next and Grant rising, family, and thanks for 2724 02:34:43,200 --> 02:34:45,320 Speaker 1: staying with us on this Wednesday morning with our guest 2725 02:34:45,400 --> 02:34:48,120 Speaker 1: the economist, doctor Julian and Malvaux. And as I mentioned, 2726 02:34:48,200 --> 02:34:51,760 Speaker 1: doctor Malvaud is an MIT trained economist, and we go 2727 02:34:51,879 --> 02:34:54,080 Speaker 1: to her when he comes about the economy. As we 2728 02:34:54,160 --> 02:34:56,440 Speaker 1: mentioned before, the break of Donald Trump is already in Davis. 2729 02:34:56,640 --> 02:35:00,400 Speaker 1: He's also claiming that telling the world leaders, all of them, 2730 02:35:00,480 --> 02:35:02,800 Speaker 1: the European world lyders, that they're be speaking German or 2731 02:35:02,920 --> 02:35:06,200 Speaker 1: Japanese without US protection, and he's demanding they cave in 2732 02:35:06,400 --> 02:35:09,160 Speaker 1: to his demands to take over Greenland. And he says 2733 02:35:09,240 --> 02:35:12,320 Speaker 1: if they don't, he's going to impose tariffs on them. 2734 02:35:13,360 --> 02:35:15,640 Speaker 1: Dr Malvaux, who's going to lose in that fight when 2735 02:35:15,680 --> 02:35:16,959 Speaker 1: it comes to the tariffs. 2736 02:35:17,920 --> 02:35:22,000 Speaker 13: Well, first of all, American consumers will lose. Many of 2737 02:35:22,160 --> 02:35:25,800 Speaker 13: US use products that are manufactured in NATO countries in 2738 02:35:25,920 --> 02:35:29,200 Speaker 13: other countries, and so the tariff is nothing more than 2739 02:35:29,200 --> 02:35:32,760 Speaker 13: an attack on people. But the second loser is, and 2740 02:35:33,040 --> 02:35:36,080 Speaker 13: maybe even the first, is the issue of world stability. 2741 02:35:36,520 --> 02:35:39,920 Speaker 13: Tariffs are used are supposed to be used as an 2742 02:35:40,040 --> 02:35:43,880 Speaker 13: economic tool. They're not supposed to be used as a 2743 02:35:44,080 --> 02:35:47,440 Speaker 13: political tool. So basically, this man is saying, if you 2744 02:35:47,520 --> 02:35:50,480 Speaker 13: don't agree with me, I'm going to charge you money. 2745 02:35:51,600 --> 02:35:54,320 Speaker 13: If you cannot bow down to me, you will have 2746 02:35:54,520 --> 02:36:01,000 Speaker 13: to pay, and that affects world's stability, the possibility have 2747 02:36:01,080 --> 02:36:03,760 Speaker 13: reciprocal tariffs. You tear iff me, I'll tariff you back. 2748 02:36:03,840 --> 02:36:07,199 Speaker 13: We saw this earlier last year, and as you see, 2749 02:36:07,320 --> 02:36:11,200 Speaker 13: last year he calmed down and changed some of the 2750 02:36:11,280 --> 02:36:14,760 Speaker 13: things that he had asserted. So, but world's stability is 2751 02:36:14,840 --> 02:36:18,720 Speaker 13: really important, and we're moving further and further away from 2752 02:36:18,800 --> 02:36:24,119 Speaker 13: world's stability as this man works his what I don't 2753 02:36:24,160 --> 02:36:25,680 Speaker 13: want to call it, worse is evil. 2754 02:36:25,879 --> 02:36:26,600 Speaker 14: Worse is evil. 2755 02:36:27,400 --> 02:36:30,480 Speaker 13: We have the United States has no right to Greenland. 2756 02:36:31,360 --> 02:36:35,440 Speaker 13: As a matter of fact, with Greenland's acquiescence, we had 2757 02:36:35,520 --> 02:36:40,760 Speaker 13: military bases there. We closed them. We could still if 2758 02:36:40,840 --> 02:36:44,880 Speaker 13: we feel that insecure about Greenland, we could still reopen them. 2759 02:36:45,959 --> 02:36:50,280 Speaker 13: We could still easily reopen those things in Greenland. We 2760 02:36:50,400 --> 02:36:52,840 Speaker 13: don't have to go to war, we don't have to 2761 02:36:52,879 --> 02:36:53,640 Speaker 13: save we raval. 2762 02:36:54,040 --> 02:36:54,720 Speaker 6: But this is what. 2763 02:36:56,480 --> 02:37:01,120 Speaker 13: Bat Man does. Now the question becomes, you know, wind 2764 02:37:01,200 --> 02:37:06,279 Speaker 13: it out. What happens in a month, three months, six months. 2765 02:37:06,080 --> 02:37:06,440 Speaker 17: A year. 2766 02:37:07,160 --> 02:37:11,400 Speaker 13: He wants war or he wants acquiescence, and he says 2767 02:37:11,440 --> 02:37:15,320 Speaker 13: if he doesn't get acquiescence, it'll lead to war. He's threatened, tariff, 2768 02:37:15,760 --> 02:37:18,720 Speaker 13: he's threatened. What did he say? He's going to get 2769 02:37:18,760 --> 02:37:19,640 Speaker 13: it the easy way. 2770 02:37:19,600 --> 02:37:20,280 Speaker 14: Or the hard way. 2771 02:37:20,800 --> 02:37:24,400 Speaker 13: So the threats are out there, and there's nobody around him, 2772 02:37:24,520 --> 02:37:29,640 Speaker 13: Carl who calms him down. And the first term you 2773 02:37:29,800 --> 02:37:35,440 Speaker 13: had seasoned military professionals who say, dude, you can't do that. 2774 02:37:36,920 --> 02:37:39,640 Speaker 13: You know, like Zujus just can't do that. Now, what 2775 02:37:39,760 --> 02:37:41,520 Speaker 13: did he say? The only thing that will stop him 2776 02:37:41,560 --> 02:37:44,400 Speaker 13: will be his own moral compass. And we know what 2777 02:37:44,520 --> 02:37:48,119 Speaker 13: his own moral compass is is what got him thirty 2778 02:37:48,200 --> 02:37:53,360 Speaker 13: some felony convictions. So it's a challenging time and it's 2779 02:37:53,440 --> 02:37:56,560 Speaker 13: time for Europe to stand up because we need Europe 2780 02:37:56,560 --> 02:37:57,760 Speaker 13: as much as Europe needs us. 2781 02:37:58,879 --> 02:38:00,360 Speaker 1: Well, that was going to be my question. And you 2782 02:38:00,480 --> 02:38:03,760 Speaker 1: think we have already sent some of the countries, like 2783 02:38:03,840 --> 02:38:05,520 Speaker 1: the Brits and the French have sent their troops to 2784 02:38:05,680 --> 02:38:09,160 Speaker 1: to Greenland. Do you think they're gonna because everything he says, people, 2785 02:38:09,440 --> 02:38:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, either back down, he threatens to sue or 2786 02:38:12,000 --> 02:38:15,160 Speaker 1: you know in this country, but outside of this country, 2787 02:38:15,200 --> 02:38:17,600 Speaker 1: people don't take him that serious. They think he's a fool. 2788 02:38:17,800 --> 02:38:19,880 Speaker 1: You know, this was straight, That's that's what people think. 2789 02:38:20,520 --> 02:38:23,600 Speaker 1: Do you think if the NATO alliance is gonna fall, 2790 02:38:23,600 --> 02:38:25,600 Speaker 1: do you think they're gonna give into what he wants 2791 02:38:25,879 --> 02:38:29,720 Speaker 1: as opposed to because if he does impose taffs, you 2792 02:38:29,879 --> 02:38:33,400 Speaker 1: say that people different, the European people, the people tax 2793 02:38:33,480 --> 02:38:35,760 Speaker 1: being people in these different European countries, they're gonna they're 2794 02:38:35,760 --> 02:38:37,480 Speaker 1: gonna be at the brunt of it, and we're gonna 2795 02:38:37,480 --> 02:38:38,720 Speaker 1: be at the brunt of it on this side of 2796 02:38:39,040 --> 02:38:41,600 Speaker 1: the Atlantic Ocean at some point. Do you think they're 2797 02:38:41,600 --> 02:38:44,560 Speaker 1: gonna cave in because they don't want that economic disruption 2798 02:38:44,760 --> 02:38:45,440 Speaker 1: in their countries. 2799 02:38:46,959 --> 02:38:48,880 Speaker 13: I don't think they are. If you listen to uh 2800 02:38:49,640 --> 02:38:56,680 Speaker 13: macone uh yesterday when NATO opened, I'm not when the 2801 02:38:56,920 --> 02:39:02,160 Speaker 13: world Economic Forum opened, he was faber rattling back. He said, 2802 02:39:02,200 --> 02:39:06,000 Speaker 13: we're not going to be intimidated, We're not afraid. He 2803 02:39:06,360 --> 02:39:10,680 Speaker 13: was speaking for the entire NATO alliance. I don't think 2804 02:39:10,720 --> 02:39:12,920 Speaker 13: they're gonna fold. I think that Trump is gonna fold. 2805 02:39:12,959 --> 02:39:15,160 Speaker 13: I think he's going to figure out an elegant way 2806 02:39:15,200 --> 02:39:16,640 Speaker 13: to fold. But I think he's going to be the 2807 02:39:16,680 --> 02:39:17,880 Speaker 13: one to fold this time around. 2808 02:39:19,320 --> 02:39:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he seems to move from crisis to Cristius. 2809 02:39:21,600 --> 02:39:24,519 Speaker 1: You know, once it was Canada, then once it was Venezuela, 2810 02:39:25,040 --> 02:39:27,720 Speaker 1: and then once it was Mexico, and now he's moved 2811 02:39:27,720 --> 02:39:30,720 Speaker 1: to NATO and it seems like he's getting his way, 2812 02:39:30,800 --> 02:39:33,520 Speaker 1: But so far he's moved away from Venezuela. What are 2813 02:39:33,560 --> 02:39:36,480 Speaker 1: your thoughts on that whole thing Venezuela was? Has he 2814 02:39:36,600 --> 02:39:38,880 Speaker 1: gotten what he wanted? Was Was it the oil? Was 2815 02:39:38,920 --> 02:39:42,040 Speaker 1: it regime change? How do you see what happened in Venezuela. 2816 02:39:43,600 --> 02:39:46,080 Speaker 13: Well, I think it was the oil at the bottom line. 2817 02:39:46,560 --> 02:39:48,920 Speaker 13: I mean, I think that he had the cover of 2818 02:39:49,840 --> 02:39:52,240 Speaker 13: we had all these drugs coming in here. The drugs 2819 02:39:52,280 --> 02:39:56,520 Speaker 13: are not coming from Venezuela. But he had that cover, 2820 02:39:57,440 --> 02:40:02,400 Speaker 13: and he had the think efonts of expeth and the 2821 02:40:02,520 --> 02:40:07,120 Speaker 13: Rubio to back him up. He has now the head 2822 02:40:07,160 --> 02:40:11,200 Speaker 13: of Venezuela in custody. I don't know how long that's 2823 02:40:11,200 --> 02:40:16,920 Speaker 13: gonna last either. Many believe that that was illegal and 2824 02:40:17,080 --> 02:40:22,920 Speaker 13: that taking this accord will blow it up. But you know, 2825 02:40:23,800 --> 02:40:26,039 Speaker 13: as you said, I think he said a very athlete, Carl, 2826 02:40:26,120 --> 02:40:27,280 Speaker 13: I'm actually gonna bow it. 2827 02:40:27,360 --> 02:40:28,199 Speaker 9: He runs. 2828 02:40:28,360 --> 02:40:33,400 Speaker 13: He koreems really from crisis to crisis to prevent himself 2829 02:40:33,440 --> 02:40:36,200 Speaker 13: from dealing with the real issues. He was elected to 2830 02:40:36,280 --> 02:40:39,240 Speaker 13: do two things, and one of them was to stabilize 2831 02:40:39,280 --> 02:40:42,160 Speaker 13: the economy and to bring prices down. He has not 2832 02:40:42,320 --> 02:40:45,280 Speaker 13: done that. The other, of course, is to manage immigration 2833 02:40:46,160 --> 02:40:50,280 Speaker 13: and managing immigrations, not me shooting Renee Good in the head, 2834 02:40:51,000 --> 02:40:53,880 Speaker 13: pulling some little Asian man out of his house and 2835 02:40:53,959 --> 02:40:58,720 Speaker 13: his underwear, pulling an autistic woman out of her car. 2836 02:40:59,360 --> 02:41:04,840 Speaker 13: So this whole notion of he's problems immigration, Barack Obama 2837 02:41:06,959 --> 02:41:11,800 Speaker 13: basically pull people contain immigration. We never had headlines this 2838 02:41:12,360 --> 02:41:16,360 Speaker 13: because he wasn't he was doing it orderly fashion. This 2839 02:41:16,560 --> 02:41:19,280 Speaker 13: president wouldn't know an order be fashioned because he's not 2840 02:41:19,400 --> 02:41:21,600 Speaker 13: operator in orderly fashion. 2841 02:41:22,120 --> 02:41:25,800 Speaker 15: So but that's that river a cuff. 2842 02:41:26,160 --> 02:41:31,240 Speaker 13: When you see a picture of a small man with 2843 02:41:31,440 --> 02:41:34,840 Speaker 13: his draws and a blanket off. You can't help us 2844 02:41:34,879 --> 02:41:38,400 Speaker 13: to feel outraged when you see a woman pulled out. 2845 02:41:38,440 --> 02:41:40,760 Speaker 13: You can't help us to feel outraged. But we also 2846 02:41:40,879 --> 02:41:44,400 Speaker 13: have to feel outraged about the fact that this man 2847 02:41:44,920 --> 02:41:50,480 Speaker 13: is upending world order. And that's easier said than done 2848 02:41:51,080 --> 02:41:55,520 Speaker 13: because the pictures of these people are concrete. The work 2849 02:41:55,560 --> 02:41:57,199 Speaker 13: that he's doing is abstract. 2850 02:41:58,920 --> 02:42:02,720 Speaker 1: Gotcha, uh after top Elliot's checking in from Philly's got 2851 02:42:02,760 --> 02:42:05,920 Speaker 1: a question for you, doctor Melveaux, Grand Rising Elliott, you're 2852 02:42:05,959 --> 02:42:06,960 Speaker 1: on with doctor Julianna. 2853 02:42:07,240 --> 02:42:14,800 Speaker 7: Good morning, the good money to your guesst Doctor Malvaux. Great, great, 2854 02:42:15,879 --> 02:42:20,360 Speaker 7: a comment more than a question. You know, when we 2855 02:42:20,520 --> 02:42:25,880 Speaker 7: discuss geopolitical issues as black folks, I think that sometimes 2856 02:42:25,920 --> 02:42:29,560 Speaker 7: our leadership is on a different page and a lot 2857 02:42:29,600 --> 02:42:31,880 Speaker 7: of the rank and file black folks. And when I 2858 02:42:31,920 --> 02:42:35,920 Speaker 7: say our leadership, doctor Malveaux, you're not elected leadership, but 2859 02:42:36,080 --> 02:42:39,280 Speaker 7: you're a leader in your field as far as a 2860 02:42:39,360 --> 02:42:44,240 Speaker 7: black woman and black people. So when we've discussed geopolitical 2861 02:42:44,320 --> 02:42:49,520 Speaker 7: issues and talk about NATO nations and Europeans being our allies, 2862 02:42:50,480 --> 02:42:54,520 Speaker 7: they've never been black folks allies. None of these European nations, 2863 02:42:54,640 --> 02:42:59,160 Speaker 7: they've been black folks abusers. Now European nations are allies 2864 02:42:59,400 --> 02:43:02,440 Speaker 7: of white leadership here in this country, but they're not 2865 02:43:02,600 --> 02:43:05,640 Speaker 7: black people's allies. When that war broke out in the Ukraine, 2866 02:43:06,040 --> 02:43:08,800 Speaker 7: they treated black people they're worse than dogs. In fact 2867 02:43:08,840 --> 02:43:11,880 Speaker 7: that a lot of people were evacuating Ukraine. They let 2868 02:43:11,920 --> 02:43:15,320 Speaker 7: the dogs on with their white masters and didn't let 2869 02:43:15,360 --> 02:43:20,040 Speaker 7: black people on the trains. They had on the of 2870 02:43:22,160 --> 02:43:26,680 Speaker 7: the website about the people that were volunteering in the 2871 02:43:26,800 --> 02:43:29,520 Speaker 7: Ukraine that were black that when you go over there 2872 02:43:29,560 --> 02:43:32,119 Speaker 7: to people are gonna call you the N word, They're 2873 02:43:32,160 --> 02:43:35,160 Speaker 7: gonna use all types of racial epithets, and they wanted 2874 02:43:35,200 --> 02:43:38,280 Speaker 7: the people to ignore it and do their job. So 2875 02:43:38,680 --> 02:43:41,680 Speaker 7: I'm just using that as an example. Europeans and these 2876 02:43:41,720 --> 02:43:45,880 Speaker 7: European countries have never been black people's allies. And even 2877 02:43:45,959 --> 02:43:51,080 Speaker 7: when we talk about Greenland, the native population of Greenland, 2878 02:43:51,120 --> 02:43:54,000 Speaker 7: the loot Indians, I think they're like ten percent or 2879 02:43:54,040 --> 02:43:57,440 Speaker 7: maybe less of the population because white Europeans went in 2880 02:43:57,680 --> 02:43:59,039 Speaker 7: Danish and others. 2881 02:43:59,040 --> 02:43:59,840 Speaker 3: And white those people. 2882 02:44:01,280 --> 02:44:04,600 Speaker 7: So we can when we discuss these issues, we really 2883 02:44:04,680 --> 02:44:06,960 Speaker 7: have to put ourselves on one side and these people 2884 02:44:07,000 --> 02:44:10,680 Speaker 7: on the other. We have to do something to save 2885 02:44:10,840 --> 02:44:14,720 Speaker 7: our babies, women and black families. This place is coming 2886 02:44:14,720 --> 02:44:16,680 Speaker 7: apart of the seams, and I don't want to be 2887 02:44:16,760 --> 02:44:18,920 Speaker 7: associated with this type of a pialism. 2888 02:44:19,080 --> 02:44:19,640 Speaker 8: I just don't. 2889 02:44:21,520 --> 02:44:23,320 Speaker 7: I just wanted to be the comment. Thank you, Carul, 2890 02:44:23,640 --> 02:44:24,600 Speaker 7: and thank you for your guest. 2891 02:44:25,959 --> 02:44:30,480 Speaker 13: My brother, I appreciate your comment acutely for any number 2892 02:44:30,480 --> 02:44:32,879 Speaker 13: of reasons. First of all, as you said, the NATO 2893 02:44:33,080 --> 02:44:38,080 Speaker 13: countries were the countries who colonize our African continent. Our 2894 02:44:38,240 --> 02:44:39,640 Speaker 13: African continent. 2895 02:44:41,280 --> 02:44:41,640 Speaker 8: We have. 2896 02:44:43,400 --> 02:44:46,400 Speaker 13: I'm writing about lynching and dada whatever, but I have 2897 02:44:46,640 --> 02:44:52,400 Speaker 13: an in cyclical from an Italian pope who told the 2898 02:44:52,520 --> 02:44:58,080 Speaker 13: other European countries to go and civilize the enslaved people. 2899 02:44:58,280 --> 02:44:59,600 Speaker 13: Are the African continent? 2900 02:45:00,200 --> 02:45:00,560 Speaker 8: No, it was. 2901 02:45:00,800 --> 02:45:04,039 Speaker 13: It was the Pagans and it met the African continent. 2902 02:45:04,200 --> 02:45:06,800 Speaker 13: But they also use that to come here to the 2903 02:45:06,920 --> 02:45:10,680 Speaker 13: United States and so called civilized that as well. I 2904 02:45:10,840 --> 02:45:13,800 Speaker 13: am not in a love affair with Europeans at all, 2905 02:45:14,600 --> 02:45:20,480 Speaker 13: but or and from a geopolitical perspective or a geopolitical perspective, 2906 02:45:20,640 --> 02:45:27,160 Speaker 13: what who do we want to have Greenland, Russia, NATO, 2907 02:45:27,640 --> 02:45:32,360 Speaker 13: including the United States, or China For the sake of 2908 02:45:32,560 --> 02:45:35,160 Speaker 13: this country, which I am not a patriot. If you 2909 02:45:35,320 --> 02:45:36,960 Speaker 13: listen to me, or read me or talked to me, 2910 02:45:37,040 --> 02:45:40,800 Speaker 13: you will hear me say I am not a patriot 2911 02:45:41,080 --> 02:45:44,640 Speaker 13: a tall but there you know, you sleep with the devil, 2912 02:45:44,680 --> 02:45:46,880 Speaker 13: you know, as opposed to the devil you don't. And 2913 02:45:46,959 --> 02:45:49,199 Speaker 13: from that perspective, what I'm saying is that I would 2914 02:45:49,320 --> 02:45:54,200 Speaker 13: rather NATO and then Mark keep Greenland than to have 2915 02:45:54,400 --> 02:46:02,359 Speaker 13: Russia or China have Greenland. And I abhor the imperialistic 2916 02:46:02,560 --> 02:46:05,560 Speaker 13: nature of this president who's just boldly going come to 2917 02:46:05,640 --> 02:46:09,080 Speaker 13: I'm gona take it. In addition, if he takes it, 2918 02:46:09,560 --> 02:46:13,760 Speaker 13: what is the impact on the Black community, our young 2919 02:46:13,840 --> 02:46:16,920 Speaker 13: brothers and sisters. If he does boots on the ground, 2920 02:46:17,879 --> 02:46:22,880 Speaker 13: that'll be us. If he imposes tariffs, that will be us. 2921 02:46:23,640 --> 02:46:28,640 Speaker 13: The status quote, frankly works for me. And he's disrupting, 2922 02:46:28,720 --> 02:46:32,199 Speaker 13: as he always does. An apple cart and the status quote. 2923 02:46:33,760 --> 02:46:35,960 Speaker 1: Got you twenty eight away from the top of the 2924 02:46:36,040 --> 02:46:38,680 Speaker 1: oil its Edic Collins from Philadelphia got a tweet question 2925 02:46:38,760 --> 02:46:42,000 Speaker 1: for you, doctor Malva. Tweeter says, ask doctor Malvaux, how 2926 02:46:42,040 --> 02:46:45,440 Speaker 1: do we know the BONDI some pambond. He will give 2927 02:46:45,480 --> 02:46:47,760 Speaker 1: us all the important Epstein Files. I mean to add 2928 02:46:47,920 --> 02:46:52,280 Speaker 1: on to this this tweet the question for you too 2929 02:46:52,920 --> 02:46:55,400 Speaker 1: about the Epstein files all this was going on. Is 2930 02:46:56,000 --> 02:46:58,080 Speaker 1: this to take attention from the Epstein files. 2931 02:46:58,920 --> 02:47:03,320 Speaker 13: Oh, first of all, to the tweeter, No, we don't 2932 02:47:03,360 --> 02:47:06,160 Speaker 13: know what she's going to do. Her job is not 2933 02:47:06,400 --> 02:47:09,959 Speaker 13: to be the Attorney General of the United States. It's 2934 02:47:10,040 --> 02:47:15,200 Speaker 13: to be the attorney in chief of that man. And 2935 02:47:15,320 --> 02:47:18,600 Speaker 13: I say that man, Carl, because I I do you 2936 02:47:18,720 --> 02:47:22,800 Speaker 13: his resulation is not the curse it ain't working. But 2937 02:47:22,959 --> 02:47:25,000 Speaker 13: that man's name is a curse word. So at least 2938 02:47:25,040 --> 02:47:28,200 Speaker 13: I'm sticking to that. But no, she is his attorney. 2939 02:47:28,280 --> 02:47:30,959 Speaker 13: She's not our attorney. She's not the United States attorney 2940 02:47:31,240 --> 02:47:33,360 Speaker 13: Look at the people that she's going after now. She's 2941 02:47:33,440 --> 02:47:39,080 Speaker 13: going after Tim Waalks in Minnesota, after the mayor of Minneapolis. 2942 02:47:39,720 --> 02:47:42,920 Speaker 13: She's gone after Titian James. The courts have shut her down. 2943 02:47:43,600 --> 02:47:48,080 Speaker 13: She no, we cannot expect anything from her. They're deflecting now. 2944 02:47:48,120 --> 02:47:52,280 Speaker 13: They want the Clintons to testify. Why the Clintons don't 2945 02:47:52,320 --> 02:47:53,160 Speaker 13: have anything. 2946 02:47:52,879 --> 02:47:53,600 Speaker 10: To do with this mess. 2947 02:47:53,879 --> 02:47:58,520 Speaker 13: Yeah, he might have visited Marlote wherever he went. FC's 2948 02:47:58,560 --> 02:48:01,760 Speaker 13: little compound. A couple of time, Hillary certain wasn't there. 2949 02:48:03,760 --> 02:48:06,600 Speaker 13: We can count on that. But this is all deflection 2950 02:48:07,720 --> 02:48:11,000 Speaker 13: what this man is doing. He's running a five ring 2951 02:48:11,160 --> 02:48:14,680 Speaker 13: circus to deflect the fact that he has not done 2952 02:48:14,720 --> 02:48:17,160 Speaker 13: what he said he was gonna do, not a three 2953 02:48:17,280 --> 02:48:21,280 Speaker 13: ring circus, but a five ring circus. And therefore our 2954 02:48:21,440 --> 02:48:29,240 Speaker 13: attention is diverted time after time after time on something salacious, ridiculous, criminal, 2955 02:48:30,000 --> 02:48:34,200 Speaker 13: and we all become outraged about that. Meanwhile, back at 2956 02:48:34,240 --> 02:48:38,199 Speaker 13: the ranch, he's getting away with, if not murder, something 2957 02:48:38,320 --> 02:48:42,400 Speaker 13: near murder. In addition, Carl looks at the mini dollars 2958 02:48:42,760 --> 02:48:46,120 Speaker 13: that have been committed to ICE. Over one hundred and 2959 02:48:46,360 --> 02:48:50,200 Speaker 13: ninety billion dollars committed to ICE at the rate of 2960 02:48:50,320 --> 02:48:53,240 Speaker 13: at least ten billion a year for the next five years, 2961 02:48:53,480 --> 02:48:59,400 Speaker 13: was forty five billions to create new holding facilities. This 2962 02:48:59,600 --> 02:49:02,640 Speaker 13: is something that people are not paying attention to. Altho y'all, 2963 02:49:02,959 --> 02:49:05,840 Speaker 13: if you happen to want to subscribe to my newsletter, 2964 02:49:06,360 --> 02:49:10,760 Speaker 13: this week's position is on ICE and it's Malvox newsletter 2965 02:49:10,879 --> 02:49:14,240 Speaker 13: at gmail dot com. Forgive the self promotion, Carll that 2966 02:49:14,280 --> 02:49:17,080 Speaker 13: I will put it out there again Malvo Newsletter at 2967 02:49:17,120 --> 02:49:22,120 Speaker 13: gmail dot com exploring all things Ice, All right. 2968 02:49:22,320 --> 02:49:24,680 Speaker 1: I'll let you give that address out later as well. 2969 02:49:24,760 --> 02:49:27,240 Speaker 1: Twenty five away from the top of you, Alan's reaching 2970 02:49:27,280 --> 02:49:29,520 Speaker 1: out to us. She's in San Diego. He's online two 2971 02:49:29,959 --> 02:49:32,800 Speaker 1: grant rising Alan, I want with doctor Julianne Malveaux. 2972 02:49:34,600 --> 02:49:35,320 Speaker 8: Oh, how are you doing? 2973 02:49:35,360 --> 02:49:39,680 Speaker 9: Miss Melville's so fine. 2974 02:49:39,680 --> 02:49:40,080 Speaker 10: I met you. 2975 02:49:40,360 --> 02:49:42,320 Speaker 9: I met I personally met you a long time ago 2976 02:49:42,480 --> 02:49:43,920 Speaker 9: at the San Diego Airport. 2977 02:49:44,520 --> 02:49:44,640 Speaker 4: Uh. 2978 02:49:44,720 --> 02:49:47,240 Speaker 9: This is like in the nineties, and now I didn't 2979 02:49:47,280 --> 02:49:49,360 Speaker 9: really really you know, recognize her said, I've seen you 2980 02:49:49,440 --> 02:49:51,880 Speaker 9: somewhere before this. Did you work with me at General Dynamics, 2981 02:49:52,600 --> 02:49:54,520 Speaker 9: you know? I She said no. I said, oh okay. 2982 02:49:54,600 --> 02:49:56,480 Speaker 9: Then I then you told me who you were. I said, 2983 02:49:56,600 --> 02:49:59,720 Speaker 9: oh okay. But it's nice to hear from you again. 2984 02:50:00,160 --> 02:50:03,879 Speaker 9: Also too, I saw you on c SPAN years later 2985 02:50:05,480 --> 02:50:09,199 Speaker 9: after the old j trial. You was with Dick Gregory 2986 02:50:09,400 --> 02:50:13,640 Speaker 9: and Kathy Hughes. I remember seeing that segment on se Span, 2987 02:50:14,760 --> 02:50:16,240 Speaker 9: you know, but I don't know if you remember that. 2988 02:50:16,280 --> 02:50:20,040 Speaker 9: It was a long time ago. But anyway, it's always 2989 02:50:20,280 --> 02:50:25,920 Speaker 9: it's always great to be seen. Yeah, yeah, But anyway, 2990 02:50:26,000 --> 02:50:29,440 Speaker 9: I want to ask you something. I posted this fact 2991 02:50:29,480 --> 02:50:32,920 Speaker 9: to Carl Nelson about I think last month about the 2992 02:50:33,040 --> 02:50:37,160 Speaker 9: terrorists because about the let's about magic shade for instance, 2993 02:50:37,760 --> 02:50:40,280 Speaker 9: I used to pay like like five dollars a can 2994 02:50:40,440 --> 02:50:45,440 Speaker 9: about we said last the last July or something, five 2995 02:50:45,440 --> 02:50:48,000 Speaker 9: dollars a can. But after the terriff that that canon 2996 02:50:48,120 --> 02:50:50,680 Speaker 9: medic shape went up to thirty dollars a can. So 2997 02:50:51,840 --> 02:50:55,440 Speaker 9: I want to ask you something now, the taxes that 2998 02:50:55,879 --> 02:50:59,080 Speaker 9: the extra taxes that the American consumer be paying for 2999 02:50:59,200 --> 02:51:02,600 Speaker 9: those that we that that we're paying now, is that 3000 02:51:02,720 --> 02:51:05,800 Speaker 9: going to some kind of black budget or something? Or 3001 02:51:07,640 --> 02:51:10,080 Speaker 9: because they said that they accumulated so much money from 3002 02:51:10,160 --> 02:51:13,600 Speaker 9: the terrorff taxt and everything that it's in the millions 3003 02:51:13,600 --> 02:51:16,040 Speaker 9: of beellions or something, do you know anything about that? 3004 02:51:16,200 --> 02:51:16,960 Speaker 9: I'm just curious. 3005 02:51:18,720 --> 02:51:19,520 Speaker 1: Thank you for any questions. 3006 02:51:19,600 --> 02:51:19,879 Speaker 8: Hold on. 3007 02:51:21,840 --> 02:51:24,560 Speaker 1: Terror right, that's hold. I thot right there because we 3008 02:51:24,600 --> 02:51:26,320 Speaker 1: gotta take a quick break. Hold I thought right there. 3009 02:51:26,360 --> 02:51:27,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to stop you when you get to 3010 02:51:27,640 --> 02:51:30,280 Speaker 1: use your rhythm, Alan, I thank you for your question, though, Yeah, 3011 02:51:30,520 --> 02:51:32,760 Speaker 1: tell us about the taps and the taxes when we 3012 02:51:32,840 --> 02:51:35,040 Speaker 1: get back. All right, family you want to do? 3013 02:51:35,080 --> 02:51:35,360 Speaker 8: You too? 3014 02:51:35,400 --> 02:51:37,760 Speaker 1: Want to speak with doctor Julian Malveaux. Reach out to 3015 02:51:37,879 --> 02:51:40,560 Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight, 3016 02:51:40,840 --> 02:51:43,040 Speaker 1: seventy six, and we'll take your phone calls next and 3017 02:51:43,200 --> 02:51:45,400 Speaker 1: Grand Rising family, thanks for staying with us on this 3018 02:51:45,560 --> 02:51:47,680 Speaker 1: Wednesday morning. It's a hum day. That means we're halfway 3019 02:51:47,720 --> 02:51:50,520 Speaker 1: through the work week with our guest. She's the economist 3020 02:51:50,640 --> 02:51:54,080 Speaker 1: that doctor Julian Malveaux and trained. M I t one 3021 02:51:54,160 --> 02:51:56,920 Speaker 1: my best in the business analyzing the economy what it 3022 02:51:57,000 --> 02:51:59,600 Speaker 1: really means for us. That's why we have doctor Malvaux 3023 02:51:59,640 --> 02:52:02,520 Speaker 1: with us. So, doctor Malva, let you respond to Alan 3024 02:52:02,920 --> 02:52:04,840 Speaker 1: in San Diego's question about the tariffs. 3025 02:52:07,000 --> 02:52:09,640 Speaker 13: Well, I don't recall the question that quickly. I came 3026 02:52:09,720 --> 02:52:12,240 Speaker 13: down to here some coffee, but I know that he's 3027 02:52:12,440 --> 02:52:15,240 Speaker 13: who hurts what the terriffs we do and the world 3028 02:52:15,360 --> 02:52:21,640 Speaker 13: economic order does. Teriffs should be an economic weapon, a 3029 02:52:21,760 --> 02:52:26,039 Speaker 13: political weapon. That man is using them as a political weapon, 3030 02:52:26,480 --> 02:52:32,160 Speaker 13: and basically he's in raging, if you will, all of Europe. Now, 3031 02:52:32,800 --> 02:52:37,080 Speaker 13: as Alan did say, he talks about the relationship between 3032 02:52:37,160 --> 02:52:40,000 Speaker 13: black people and Europe, and you know, no, we're not 3033 02:52:40,160 --> 02:52:45,200 Speaker 13: European stands Europe colonized Africa and we know that. At 3034 02:52:45,240 --> 02:52:47,920 Speaker 13: the same time, I think we have to be short 3035 02:52:48,040 --> 02:52:51,720 Speaker 13: and long term pragmatic. Do we want Russia. And we 3036 02:52:51,840 --> 02:52:54,959 Speaker 13: look back from Cold War where it's the United States 3037 02:52:54,959 --> 02:52:56,920 Speaker 13: and Russia. And if it's the United States and Russia, 3038 02:52:57,840 --> 02:53:02,320 Speaker 13: that man will turn over from Russia a time. What 3039 02:53:02,480 --> 02:53:04,920 Speaker 13: does that do for the rest of us and what 3040 02:53:05,000 --> 02:53:08,320 Speaker 13: does it do also for the acting continents. So I 3041 02:53:08,480 --> 02:53:11,880 Speaker 13: think that we need to well, we do not have 3042 02:53:12,080 --> 02:53:18,840 Speaker 13: much love for Europe at the colonizers in the contemporary setting. 3043 02:53:19,440 --> 02:53:22,160 Speaker 13: We have to look at especially what these parish wools 3044 02:53:22,200 --> 02:53:25,879 Speaker 13: do not only for Europe, but also for the United 3045 02:53:25,920 --> 02:53:27,160 Speaker 13: States and for the rest of the world. 3046 02:53:28,400 --> 02:53:30,320 Speaker 1: All right, fifteen away from the top there with doctor 3047 02:53:30,400 --> 02:53:33,080 Speaker 1: Julian Malvaux, and we're monitoring Donald Trump speak to the 3048 02:53:33,120 --> 02:53:37,560 Speaker 1: world leaders Davis Switzerland and doctor Malvaux. This is what 3049 02:53:37,680 --> 02:53:39,320 Speaker 1: I guess He's got to earn the name of Taco 3050 02:53:39,360 --> 02:53:42,640 Speaker 1: because now says he won't use force to acquiet Greenland. 3051 02:53:42,959 --> 02:53:45,879 Speaker 1: So that's a new change of They said, just say 3052 02:53:46,120 --> 02:53:47,800 Speaker 1: moments ago, your thoughts on that. 3053 02:53:51,000 --> 02:53:55,040 Speaker 13: This faber rattling is unseemly and erolls the position of 3054 02:53:55,040 --> 02:54:00,440 Speaker 13: the United States in the world. But he has been 3055 02:54:00,560 --> 02:54:05,160 Speaker 13: saber rattling throughout his first term and now with his 3056 02:54:05,320 --> 02:54:09,080 Speaker 13: second term. Well, I think we have to do carl 3057 02:54:09,280 --> 02:54:12,480 Speaker 13: Is to focus on the midterms as on guardrails around 3058 02:54:12,520 --> 02:54:18,520 Speaker 13: this man. How do we get people Americans, voters, whether 3059 02:54:18,600 --> 02:54:22,960 Speaker 13: they're crazy white voters and idaho who don't want their 3060 02:54:23,120 --> 02:54:25,320 Speaker 13: sons to be the books on the ground, how do 3061 02:54:25,440 --> 02:54:29,120 Speaker 13: we engage them in a turnaround for this midterm election. 3062 02:54:29,560 --> 02:54:30,840 Speaker 13: That's what my priority is. 3063 02:54:32,360 --> 02:54:34,720 Speaker 1: Do you think that the country has reached this stage now? 3064 02:54:34,920 --> 02:54:38,280 Speaker 1: Is Trump fatigued? I mean it's dizzy and it sometimes 3065 02:54:38,400 --> 02:54:40,320 Speaker 1: times when you hear the news reports are coming out 3066 02:54:40,320 --> 02:54:42,520 Speaker 1: of the things that he's done. Every day you wake up. 3067 02:54:42,959 --> 02:54:46,080 Speaker 1: Has he started done something now to take off another group, 3068 02:54:46,120 --> 02:54:48,840 Speaker 1: another country, in another sect and we find in it. 3069 02:54:48,920 --> 02:54:51,400 Speaker 1: But it seems like he's still got some His approval 3070 02:54:51,480 --> 02:54:54,040 Speaker 1: hasn't hit the all time low. I don't think I 3071 02:54:54,160 --> 02:54:55,920 Speaker 1: know some people. It's been at the bottom of the 3072 02:54:55,959 --> 02:54:58,600 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh quite some time. But he's still got you know, 3073 02:54:58,680 --> 02:55:00,800 Speaker 1: he's still got a maga group that is based that 3074 02:55:01,160 --> 02:55:03,840 Speaker 1: loves him. Do you think that's a church? 3075 02:55:04,480 --> 02:55:06,840 Speaker 13: You know a third of all Republicans are a ride 3076 02:55:06,920 --> 02:55:10,800 Speaker 13: or die Trump. That's just how it is their right 3077 02:55:10,920 --> 02:55:13,600 Speaker 13: or die. I mean, as he said, he could kill 3078 02:55:13,680 --> 02:55:16,520 Speaker 13: someone on Fifth Avenue and get away with it. So 3079 02:55:16,680 --> 02:55:21,560 Speaker 13: that's a third of them. The rest of them can 3080 02:55:22,240 --> 02:55:25,800 Speaker 13: their buttons, can be pushed by certain issues, but that 3081 02:55:25,959 --> 02:55:32,080 Speaker 13: third isn't going away. They where he's losing ground right now, 3082 02:55:32,280 --> 02:55:38,400 Speaker 13: Carls with the independence. The independences are horrified. The twenty 3083 02:55:38,600 --> 02:55:42,960 Speaker 13: twenty four elections was put together as a dichotomy. Either 3084 02:55:43,040 --> 02:55:46,840 Speaker 13: you get this man who experienced with the economy, a 3085 02:55:46,959 --> 02:55:49,680 Speaker 13: little bit off, but experience of the economy, or you 3086 02:55:49,760 --> 02:55:53,880 Speaker 13: get this woman, black woman who, for whatever reason, people 3087 02:55:53,959 --> 02:55:56,640 Speaker 13: didn't trust. Some of it was her race, some of 3088 02:55:56,680 --> 02:55:59,080 Speaker 13: the was her gender. Remember we still have not elected 3089 02:55:59,120 --> 02:56:04,360 Speaker 13: a white woman. Her race, her gender, and their uncertainty. 3090 02:56:05,120 --> 02:56:09,680 Speaker 13: The uncertainty was a function of the way that Biden's people. 3091 02:56:09,760 --> 02:56:14,600 Speaker 13: Let's be clear, Biden's people used her the first two years. 3092 02:56:15,400 --> 02:56:21,560 Speaker 13: They gave her impossible task fix immigrations. Biden didn't fix immigration. 3093 02:56:21,800 --> 02:56:25,040 Speaker 13: Trump can't fix immigration, but they asked Comma to do that, 3094 02:56:25,680 --> 02:56:27,880 Speaker 13: and then they tried to grade her on that. So 3095 02:56:28,040 --> 02:56:33,000 Speaker 13: you have this person who is proven to be efficient, 3096 02:56:33,360 --> 02:56:39,439 Speaker 13: if erratic, and you have someone who's proven who's unproven 3097 02:56:39,640 --> 02:56:44,120 Speaker 13: in many people's eyes, the independence many of them went 3098 02:56:44,360 --> 02:56:49,600 Speaker 13: with this president, which is how he won Many of 3099 02:56:49,640 --> 02:56:52,039 Speaker 13: them are not regretting that they didn't expect to see 3100 02:56:52,080 --> 02:56:55,279 Speaker 13: their neighbors dragged out into the cold in their underwear. 3101 02:56:56,240 --> 02:56:59,640 Speaker 13: They didn't expect to see an autistic woman dragged out 3102 02:56:59,640 --> 02:57:03,920 Speaker 13: of her after ice broke her windows. They didn't expect 3103 02:57:04,000 --> 02:57:08,680 Speaker 13: to succeed the economic uncertainty of tariffs here then there. 3104 02:57:08,800 --> 02:57:11,600 Speaker 13: They're not there, They're not here, So they didn't expect that. 3105 02:57:11,720 --> 02:57:14,520 Speaker 13: So the Independents are looking in very different the republic. 3106 02:57:14,640 --> 02:57:17,039 Speaker 13: There's a core of the Republicans that you could move 3107 02:57:17,160 --> 02:57:22,440 Speaker 13: off Trump, but there are a larger core of independence 3108 02:57:22,680 --> 02:57:27,760 Speaker 13: who are looking sideways at Trumps. So there is a 3109 02:57:27,800 --> 02:57:33,279 Speaker 13: real possibility that Democrats could not only take the midterms 3110 02:57:33,320 --> 02:57:37,040 Speaker 13: but also take twenty twenty eight. But we have to 3111 02:57:37,160 --> 02:57:40,480 Speaker 13: be prepared to speak that truth, and they hear. They 3112 02:57:40,520 --> 02:57:43,520 Speaker 13: have an issue called we can't let the good get 3113 02:57:43,560 --> 02:57:46,160 Speaker 13: in the way of the perfect. They want the perfect. 3114 02:57:47,040 --> 02:57:49,280 Speaker 13: We're not going to have the perfect with that man 3115 02:57:49,360 --> 02:57:51,960 Speaker 13: in the mix. That will never be perfect. But there's 3116 02:57:52,040 --> 02:57:55,279 Speaker 13: always some good and we see it in certain elections 3117 02:57:55,400 --> 02:57:58,280 Speaker 13: like mom Dommy, what a what a victory? 3118 02:57:58,360 --> 02:57:59,040 Speaker 14: What a victory? 3119 02:57:59,560 --> 02:58:03,400 Speaker 13: We seek some other things. Abigail van Berger was just 3120 02:58:03,520 --> 02:58:08,120 Speaker 13: elected was a sport born in rather on yesterday, and 3121 02:58:08,240 --> 02:58:12,640 Speaker 13: she immediately set out executive orders to restore the Virginia 3122 02:58:13,000 --> 02:58:16,480 Speaker 13: higher education system. So we're going to see those small victories, 3123 02:58:16,840 --> 02:58:18,440 Speaker 13: but we can't rest on those. 3124 02:58:18,680 --> 02:58:21,040 Speaker 7: We need big victories too, all right. 3125 02:58:21,120 --> 02:58:23,440 Speaker 1: Ten away from the top, I'm glad you mentioned the election. 3126 02:58:24,120 --> 02:58:26,039 Speaker 1: I want you to mention, Lisa Coop before you leave. 3127 02:58:26,080 --> 02:58:28,680 Speaker 1: But the election because as a twelve folks on Bonnac 3128 02:58:28,760 --> 02:58:30,560 Speaker 1: and what Donald Trump is saying before the world leaders 3129 02:58:30,600 --> 02:58:33,119 Speaker 1: at datas in Switzerland, one of the things he again, 3130 02:58:33,480 --> 02:58:37,320 Speaker 1: he repeatedly said that the twenty twenty election was rigged. 3131 02:58:37,440 --> 02:58:40,760 Speaker 1: He's telling the folks democracy in America does not work 3132 02:58:40,800 --> 02:58:44,760 Speaker 1: because the election was stolen from him. Your thoughts on that. 3133 02:58:46,360 --> 02:58:49,040 Speaker 13: This is his mantra that he keeps upeating. Even though 3134 02:58:49,600 --> 02:58:54,560 Speaker 13: there were dozens of lawsuits around the election. He lost 3135 02:58:54,640 --> 02:58:59,039 Speaker 13: every single one of them, including in front of judges 3136 02:58:59,160 --> 02:59:03,200 Speaker 13: who he re appointed. But we all know that that 3137 02:59:03,400 --> 02:59:07,040 Speaker 13: election was not rigged. But he You know, here's the 3138 02:59:07,120 --> 02:59:11,320 Speaker 13: Republican playbook. If you say it enough time, somebody's gonna 3139 02:59:11,320 --> 02:59:14,600 Speaker 13: believe it. So they repeat it over and over and 3140 02:59:14,800 --> 02:59:17,920 Speaker 13: over again. The election was rigged. The election was rigged. 3141 02:59:17,959 --> 02:59:21,760 Speaker 13: It was not rigged, and we know that, but there 3142 02:59:21,800 --> 02:59:25,840 Speaker 13: are those who will continue to repeat it because it's 3143 02:59:25,920 --> 02:59:31,039 Speaker 13: convenient for them. He lost the election decisively in twenty 3144 02:59:31,160 --> 02:59:37,920 Speaker 13: twenty decisively, and many people actually have questions about twenty 3145 02:59:38,000 --> 02:59:41,400 Speaker 13: twenty four, although I don't dabble in that, but a 3146 02:59:41,440 --> 02:59:43,520 Speaker 13: lot of people say, well, how did he win twenty 3147 02:59:43,640 --> 02:59:49,360 Speaker 13: twenty four? So no, it just gives him cover to 3148 02:59:49,520 --> 02:59:50,680 Speaker 13: do all the devilment that he. 3149 02:59:50,760 --> 02:59:51,240 Speaker 10: Wants to do. 3150 02:59:52,360 --> 02:59:54,160 Speaker 1: All right, got a tweet question for you, a nine 3151 02:59:54,200 --> 02:59:57,400 Speaker 1: away from the tampaadis is a grand rising sister Kiddy 3152 02:59:57,440 --> 03:00:00,360 Speaker 1: from Kelly. Would you ask the doctor if she believes 3153 03:00:00,440 --> 03:00:03,040 Speaker 1: that the people could make a difference if we speak 3154 03:00:03,080 --> 03:00:06,879 Speaker 1: the language that the supporters of Donald Trump understand economics, 3155 03:00:07,160 --> 03:00:10,600 Speaker 1: should we only spend when absolutely necessary and call out 3156 03:00:10,640 --> 03:00:13,400 Speaker 1: the real culpris like the Heritage Foundation and other white 3157 03:00:13,440 --> 03:00:17,520 Speaker 1: supremacist groups. Don Donald is just a distraction and the 3158 03:00:17,680 --> 03:00:20,920 Speaker 1: useful idiot. This is going from sister Callihat in California. 3159 03:00:21,160 --> 03:00:23,359 Speaker 1: She wants to know your thoughts on that, Doctor. 3160 03:00:23,120 --> 03:00:27,160 Speaker 13: Malvaux, and I appreciate that question because quite friendly, She's right, 3161 03:00:27,240 --> 03:00:31,760 Speaker 13: he is a useful distraction. Let's be clear Donald Trump 3162 03:00:32,200 --> 03:00:38,200 Speaker 13: is a bloody foolish idiot, a bloody foolish idiot, But 3163 03:00:38,400 --> 03:00:44,160 Speaker 13: he didn't start this mess. This is predatory capitalism manifested. 3164 03:00:45,160 --> 03:00:49,560 Speaker 13: And you have the follow up money who gains well, 3165 03:00:49,680 --> 03:00:54,760 Speaker 13: I who gains. The private prison industry is making billions 3166 03:00:54,840 --> 03:01:00,280 Speaker 13: of dollars by warehousing people, feeding them poorly, etc. If 3167 03:01:00,320 --> 03:01:03,160 Speaker 13: we follow the line, what we see is that Trump 3168 03:01:03,280 --> 03:01:07,360 Speaker 13: is simply the manifestation of evil and predatory capitalism. So 3169 03:01:08,480 --> 03:01:11,160 Speaker 13: I agree with her. Don't spend unless you have to. 3170 03:01:12,040 --> 03:01:16,360 Speaker 13: We can take conscious people can take this economy to 3171 03:01:16,520 --> 03:01:21,440 Speaker 13: its needs needs rather if we do it surgically. In 3172 03:01:21,560 --> 03:01:24,080 Speaker 13: other words, I don't want anybody to lose their job. 3173 03:01:24,200 --> 03:01:27,040 Speaker 13: I don't want anybody to go broke. But you don't 3174 03:01:27,120 --> 03:01:29,560 Speaker 13: have to buy everything that they put in front of 3175 03:01:29,560 --> 03:01:32,600 Speaker 13: your front of your face. You have to really say 3176 03:01:32,959 --> 03:01:37,880 Speaker 13: to these capitalists, we're not participating in this system that 3177 03:01:38,040 --> 03:01:42,000 Speaker 13: oppresses us, and we can do that. We can do that, 3178 03:01:43,160 --> 03:01:43,720 Speaker 13: right me. 3179 03:01:43,720 --> 03:01:45,400 Speaker 1: A quick question for you, because it raise the clocket, 3180 03:01:45,400 --> 03:01:48,039 Speaker 1: it sticks away from the top. Day Donald's he's talking 3181 03:01:48,080 --> 03:01:51,360 Speaker 1: about the housing problem in America and he wants to 3182 03:01:51,440 --> 03:01:55,960 Speaker 1: block company's corporations from buying out the family homes, single 3183 03:01:56,000 --> 03:01:58,879 Speaker 1: family homes. It's just that races the process, and when 3184 03:01:58,920 --> 03:02:01,240 Speaker 1: he does this, the house prices will drop it and 3185 03:02:01,320 --> 03:02:03,760 Speaker 1: everybody can afford buying a house. Your thoughts. 3186 03:02:04,760 --> 03:02:06,800 Speaker 13: Legally, I'm not sure how that can happen, but that 3187 03:02:06,959 --> 03:02:09,280 Speaker 13: certainly is a large part of the housing crisis is 3188 03:02:09,360 --> 03:02:15,160 Speaker 13: that private companies have been purchasing a private homes and 3189 03:02:15,600 --> 03:02:19,760 Speaker 13: holding them waiting for a more precipitous time to put 3190 03:02:19,840 --> 03:02:21,560 Speaker 13: them on the market. I have to tell you, Carl, 3191 03:02:21,600 --> 03:02:24,360 Speaker 13: you know I live in downtown d C. Literally not 3192 03:02:24,480 --> 03:02:27,640 Speaker 13: a day goes by when I get a postcard in 3193 03:02:27,760 --> 03:02:29,840 Speaker 13: my mailbox or a. 3194 03:02:31,400 --> 03:02:32,240 Speaker 9: Ring of a doorbell. 3195 03:02:32,280 --> 03:02:34,040 Speaker 13: I think they figured it out. They're not supposed to 3196 03:02:34,080 --> 03:02:36,199 Speaker 13: do that. I have a baseball bat right by my house, 3197 03:02:36,600 --> 03:02:38,840 Speaker 13: and when people right front my door, and if you 3198 03:02:38,920 --> 03:02:40,760 Speaker 13: walk up my steps, you might be confronted with a 3199 03:02:40,800 --> 03:02:44,240 Speaker 13: baseball bat. Is your house to fail? Do you see 3200 03:02:44,280 --> 03:02:46,720 Speaker 13: a full sad sale sign in the front of this house? 3201 03:02:46,800 --> 03:02:48,320 Speaker 13: If not, to get the you know what off of 3202 03:02:48,400 --> 03:02:53,960 Speaker 13: my steps? But in my neighborhood is rampant, and in 3203 03:02:54,120 --> 03:03:02,400 Speaker 13: other neighborhoods it's rampant, and it's taking private dollars out 3204 03:03:02,560 --> 03:03:05,400 Speaker 13: of the housing market would make more housing available for 3205 03:03:06,640 --> 03:03:10,480 Speaker 13: starter families for others. There is a housing crisis, and 3206 03:03:10,600 --> 03:03:13,279 Speaker 13: it's part a part of it is a tax code 3207 03:03:13,760 --> 03:03:17,480 Speaker 13: which could be changed to make it difficult to have 3208 03:03:18,040 --> 03:03:23,960 Speaker 13: corporations purchasing private housing. You know, a broken clock can 3209 03:03:24,000 --> 03:03:26,560 Speaker 13: be wrong twice a day. And that's one thing that 3210 03:03:26,879 --> 03:03:29,640 Speaker 13: that president has put out there that's not a bad idea. 3211 03:03:30,800 --> 03:03:32,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to ask you this real quickly though. 3212 03:03:32,360 --> 03:03:34,640 Speaker 1: Folks who bind up the property isn't in the district. 3213 03:03:35,120 --> 03:03:38,039 Speaker 1: They look like us or there other folks talk about 3214 03:03:38,120 --> 03:03:41,040 Speaker 1: gentrification or they using people look like us to be 3215 03:03:41,160 --> 03:03:41,600 Speaker 1: front fas. 3216 03:03:41,640 --> 03:03:43,760 Speaker 13: Oh no, no, it's gentification. One on one, when I 3217 03:03:44,120 --> 03:03:49,400 Speaker 13: moved onto my block, it was probably about half African 3218 03:03:49,440 --> 03:03:55,320 Speaker 13: Americans and about a third probably gay, and the rest 3219 03:03:55,360 --> 03:03:57,840 Speaker 13: is just a mixture. Uh, the black folks. All of 3220 03:03:57,879 --> 03:04:00,480 Speaker 13: o'calls that. I think there are three houses on a 3221 03:04:00,560 --> 03:04:05,760 Speaker 13: block now that are owned by black people. Some people, 3222 03:04:06,120 --> 03:04:09,640 Speaker 13: you know, they get great cash offers, Some elders have 3223 03:04:09,760 --> 03:04:14,160 Speaker 13: been exploited. Taxes have gone up, which is a challenge. 3224 03:04:17,959 --> 03:04:21,879 Speaker 13: So the block is much wider. Or take let's take 3225 03:04:21,920 --> 03:04:25,160 Speaker 13: the area up by Howard University. Same thing. Some white 3226 03:04:25,200 --> 03:04:27,959 Speaker 13: men have the temerity. You know, the kids at Howard 3227 03:04:28,040 --> 03:04:30,160 Speaker 13: like to play their music, which they had right to do, 3228 03:04:31,720 --> 03:04:35,680 Speaker 13: and they don't want dogs on the of the yard. Well, 3229 03:04:35,720 --> 03:04:39,520 Speaker 13: he had his dogs walking frankly on the yard and said, well, 3230 03:04:39,560 --> 03:04:43,000 Speaker 13: maybe Howard should move. This white man had the admittigan 3231 03:04:43,240 --> 03:04:46,400 Speaker 13: gear goals will say that Howard University, how many hundreds 3232 03:04:46,440 --> 03:04:49,160 Speaker 13: of years old, should move to accommodate his. 3233 03:04:50,800 --> 03:04:51,359 Speaker 9: Preferences. 3234 03:04:51,760 --> 03:04:54,360 Speaker 13: Also wanted them to stop playing playing go go music. 3235 03:04:54,640 --> 03:04:56,320 Speaker 13: And I'd like to go up there sometimes to watch 3236 03:04:56,360 --> 03:04:57,920 Speaker 13: the kids just dancing. 3237 03:04:57,640 --> 03:04:58,080 Speaker 15: On the yard. 3238 03:04:58,120 --> 03:04:58,560 Speaker 16: It's fun. 3239 03:04:59,160 --> 03:05:01,320 Speaker 13: I used to be able to that so doing it, 3240 03:05:01,959 --> 03:05:04,840 Speaker 13: But he said it was disrupting to him. This is 3241 03:05:04,879 --> 03:05:09,080 Speaker 13: what gentifiers do. And it's happening all over DC and 3242 03:05:09,120 --> 03:05:11,640 Speaker 13: a whole lot of other cities as well, where you 3243 03:05:11,760 --> 03:05:15,680 Speaker 13: see these melanin deficient people coming in and then deciding 3244 03:05:15,760 --> 03:05:16,720 Speaker 13: they wanted their way. 3245 03:05:17,920 --> 03:05:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, we just about out of time, doctor Malva. How 3246 03:05:20,400 --> 03:05:23,160 Speaker 1: can folks get you your reach you first? And how 3247 03:05:23,200 --> 03:05:25,000 Speaker 1: can get that letter that you published and they could 3248 03:05:25,120 --> 03:05:28,000 Speaker 1: follow you what's going on in the economic world? 3249 03:05:29,200 --> 03:05:32,600 Speaker 13: Hey, Bob newsletter M A L Z E A U 3250 03:05:33,000 --> 03:05:38,200 Speaker 13: X newsletter all one word at gmail dot com. You 3251 03:05:38,280 --> 03:05:42,560 Speaker 13: could also follow me on Facebook to Julian Malveaux, and 3252 03:05:42,680 --> 03:05:45,760 Speaker 13: I'm attempting to expand my reach in terms of other 3253 03:05:46,120 --> 03:05:49,080 Speaker 13: electronic media. I'm on introgram, but I don't check it 3254 03:05:49,520 --> 03:05:54,000 Speaker 13: as often as I probably should. But we're rebuilding a presence, 3255 03:05:54,160 --> 03:05:57,200 Speaker 13: especially at this time around some of the economic issues 3256 03:05:57,480 --> 03:05:59,360 Speaker 13: that we have to pay attention to. And folks, I'll 3257 03:05:59,440 --> 03:06:04,080 Speaker 13: lastly said, do you pay attention, pay attention, pay attention 3258 03:06:04,120 --> 03:06:06,560 Speaker 13: to your money, pay it, put it to the news, 3259 03:06:07,320 --> 03:06:11,280 Speaker 13: don't ceak through this revolution. It's a revolution that could 3260 03:06:11,360 --> 03:06:13,560 Speaker 13: go our way or the other way, depending on what 3261 03:06:13,800 --> 03:06:15,080 Speaker 13: kind of effort we put into it. 3262 03:06:15,680 --> 03:06:18,959 Speaker 1: And thank you for sharing that advisor. That's that doctor Malva. 3263 03:06:19,120 --> 03:06:22,760 Speaker 1: We got to run family classes. Dismissed. Stay strong, stay positive, 3264 03:06:22,800 --> 03:06:25,360 Speaker 1: please stay healthy. We see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock 3265 03:06:25,440 --> 03:06:28,600 Speaker 1: right here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB name the 3266 03:06:28,720 --> 03:06:31,440 Speaker 1: DMV on fourteen fifty WOL