1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: You got to stop talking about Jeffrey Epstein's unit. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: There's an article that came out that said it was 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 2: shaped like a fruit. 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: You have been on this now hour? 5 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 2: No, you're like showing it. 6 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: She brings her phone over here, and it's like, look 7 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: at this. Did you see this? Why would I want 8 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: to see that? Lady? 9 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: Why why would anybody want to see that? Well? Why 10 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 2: are you showing post is reporting on it? I thought 11 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: you needed to have the in. 12 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: You needn't know what Jeffrey Epstein's unit was shaped line? 13 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: No, thank you, No, you needed to know what the 14 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: report was. Oh, that's what it is. 15 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: What was it? 16 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: I'm not talking. 17 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: About it any pumpkin. That's what you said. 18 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: A lemon? 19 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: A lemon? Why was that a story? 20 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: I don't know. That's why I was like, look at this. 21 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: This is where maybe if you didn't even read the story, 22 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: you just the headline? 23 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: Correct? 24 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: Thank you? Yeah, how does that even work? 25 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: How does what even work? 26 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: Like if you're unit were shaped like a lemon. 27 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. You're the one with the equipment, not me. 28 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: Well, you've been married for twenty seven years. You all 29 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: said you have a child. You know how it works? 30 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: By the way, it's twenty eight years. 31 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: Congratulations, thank thank you, You're welcome. 32 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: This past weekend. 33 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: Oh oh did you do anything fun? 34 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: Yeah? 35 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: What'd you do? 36 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: I'm not telling you. 37 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: Oh didn't involve a lemon? 38 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: No? 39 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: What is what is going on with Jeffrey Epstein? 40 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: Well, Congress passed the bill compelling the public release of 41 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: all the unclassified DOJ records the House. Yes, the House 42 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: approved the bill four hundred and twenty seven to one. 43 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: And the one guy, Representative. 44 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: Clay Higgins from Louisiana. 45 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: He's getting crushed. I have no idea why he voted 46 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: against it, but he is just getting just slaughtered, you 47 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: know on social media. What possible reason could there have 48 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: been to vote against releasing that information? 49 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why he voted. No, he had 50 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: his reason, but you're right now people are picking on him. 51 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: It does, really, though, give you some insight into how 52 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: rotten Washington, DC is. Okay, so everybody but one guy 53 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: votes to do this, and yet when it came to 54 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: the now, this is not the discharge petition, right, This 55 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: is not this is not the dist because that's not 56 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: come until December. 57 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: Correct. These are the unclassified DOJ records. 58 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: Right now think about this though, the discharged petition, they 59 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: only got four Republicans to vote four or to sign 60 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: off on that, so they'll have to address that in 61 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: a little bit. But like, why are we not allowed 62 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: to know this guy's been dead? What has he been dead? 63 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: Six years? Five years? 64 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? I saw somebody on social media just having a 65 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 2: complete meltdown. Why do they have to vote on this? 66 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: Why do they have to vote at all? Just do it? Yeah, 67 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: And it's very Why does it have to be a law? 68 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: I think it's the game that appears to be being 69 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: played with this. We talked about this a little bit yesterday, 70 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: where whether you're a Democrat or Republican or libertarian, apathetic 71 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: to politics, whatever, every single one of us, I think, 72 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: would say we all have a vested interest in standing 73 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: on human sex trafficking, pedophilia. You know, children being exploited, 74 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: young women being exploited, whether they're adults or not, and 75 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: all of this is sort of in play or alleged 76 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: to be in play in some kind of capacity here, 77 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: and it's just this game of hey, you can't release 78 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: it this way, you got to do it that way. 79 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: Don't vote for this, you got to vote for that, 80 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: And It's like, why, that's very bizarre, and it's a 81 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: really horrible look for all the parties because they keep 82 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: seemingly positive. It seems like they're posturing for what's the 83 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: best spin that I can put on this? How does 84 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: this help me the best? 85 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: The only the only thing that I could come up 86 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 2: with is why they had to vote on it, Why 87 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: it has to be a law that is to protect 88 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: the victims. Well, okay, many of them have already come out. 89 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: Yet they're not saying any of their abusers' names. 90 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: Well, and this is what, like, other than the one 91 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: woman who was abused who wrote the tell all and 92 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: then tragically committed suicide. Yeah, who are these people? Did 93 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: you they not know them? Did they not? Are they obscure? 94 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: I think that's what the America public is look at this, going, Okay, 95 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: we know this guy did something right because he had 96 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: this island and he was shipping these girls, and we 97 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: know these girls existed, and so we know he was 98 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: doing something. We also know he was hyper connected into 99 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: very powerful circles. See, he clearly had a relationship with 100 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, he had a relationship with Donald Trump in 101 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: some capacity, the former Prince Andrew like so we know 102 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: something was going on, we know it wasn't good. We 103 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: deserve to know the answers, but nobody, including it seems 104 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: like the victims themselves or the alleged victims themselves, can 105 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: provide a clear cut here's who it was, here's who 106 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: was doing it, here's what was and then people are 107 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: just going. 108 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: Nobody wants to mister forced. 109 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: Well, the mystery that surrounds all this is part of 110 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: the like lure is not the right word, but the intrigue, 111 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: I guess is people saying what actually took place here 112 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: and who did it take place with? 113 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: It's it's obvious clearly Epstein he was running a sex 114 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: trafficking operation, right. 115 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's somebody. 116 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: But as this information comes out, though it's on he 117 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: had a pipeline to the White House, to rich powerful people, 118 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: Wall Street, Silicon Valley, professors at Harvard, the Royals, So 119 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 2: there's much more than just sex trafficking that's going on there. 120 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: Well, no, I mean he was clearly, you're right, you're right, 121 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: and this is but I think this is We're focus 122 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: on Jeffrey Epstein because it was so high profile, and 123 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: then obviously it took on a new life of its 124 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: own when he allegedly committed suicide and all of that 125 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: other stuff, but the idea that really gross, disgusting people 126 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: have access to people of power and influence. Harvey Weinstein 127 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: has entered the chat Hello, like this happens all the time. 128 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: These politicians are in large part surrounded by Oh I 129 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: can't say that we're crap bags. They're surrounded by really 130 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: horrible people. They're surrounded by wealthy individuals, many of them 131 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: highly flawed individuals in their personal lives. And that's the 132 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: cesspool that is Washington. It's like, I think Jeffrey Epstein 133 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: is probably I'm not gonna say pales in comparison does 134 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: some of the other people they associate with. But I 135 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: think if you knew the full stories of some of 136 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: the people that they accept money from and go to 137 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: parties with and hang around with, Epstein would probably just 138 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: be another guy in many cases, another guy in the line. 139 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: One of the many How did the story go from 140 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: it's on Pambondi's desk to releasing that tranche with the influencers, 141 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: to it's a hoax, to it could be national security? 142 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: Like which one is it? What's the story? 143 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: Well? And that is a part of the intrigue, right, 144 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: That's what the public wants to know is how could 145 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: you make in the case of Donald Trump, how could 146 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: you make something an issue for years and say I'm 147 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: going to definitively fill in the blank, and then you 148 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: get in there and you don't do it. That's part 149 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: of what's been working against Donald Trump, as he was 150 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: so adamant about it. Look, should Joe Biden have released Absolutely? 151 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: Should the Democrats have released it when they had full 152 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: power of the federal government. Absolutely, And this is in 153 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: no way in their defense, because there's no defense for 154 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: not doing it, But they didn't make it a campaign issue. 155 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: Trump made it for years, a front and center campaign issue. 156 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: And so you do wonder did they not release this 157 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: stuff because they got in there and realized we don't 158 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: have it, and now it's going to look like we 159 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 1: over promised and under delivered. Or are they not releasing 160 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: it because there's stuff in there that is national from 161 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: a national security standpoint that people think, you know, he 162 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: was Masad or whatever. Is that part of it, or 163 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: is that that the names would be so damaging to 164 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: both sides that both sort of share in this sort 165 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: of conviction to not let it out there because it'll 166 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: make everybody look bad. I don't know what it is, 167 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: and that's why people want to get to the bottom 168 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: of it. 169 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: I do want to make a correction. You had mentioned 170 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: that it was the House that passed. Both chambers passed it. 171 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: So it's now past the Senate. It has passed the. 172 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: Senate as well, so now it's going to land on 173 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's desk, and he has said that he's, you know, 174 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: he's going to sign it. The exact timing that's uncertain 175 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 2: because under the Constitution, the president now has ten days 176 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: excluding Sundays, to sign or veto a bill after it 177 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: passes the Congress. 178 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: It is also sort of a if you're a you know, 179 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: a high profile person or a person of trust, or 180 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: or you know, certainly a public officeholder, or like I said, 181 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: just somebody of trust, that if you are hit with 182 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: an allegation, then of all something like this, because there 183 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: are various levels of scandal or allegation or whatever, this 184 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: is about as bad as something can get. But if 185 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: you're someone who's is somehow connected to an allegation of 186 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: scandal involving something like this, and you didn't do anything wrong, 187 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: the best thing is just put it all out there, 188 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: even if it makes you look bad. When you're dealing 189 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: with human sex trafficking or petifically things like you know, 190 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: child pornography or pedophilia or whatever. If you're connected to 191 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: somebody who did something but you didn't do anything wrong, 192 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: you just got to take the momentary hit on something 193 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: like that. 194 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: And wait it out because that'll r story. It may 195 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: look bad for your day. 196 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: Hey, I was a hyper connected or in the case 197 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: of Trump, but you know I was around this guy, right, 198 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: I had a business relationship with him or whatever. Yeah, okay, 199 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: it's a news cycle for a day. But then here's 200 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: the whole truth. I did have anything to do with 201 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: any of this. I saw the guy, you know, I 202 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: got rid of him, what he was doing or a 203 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: legship done, I got rid of him. Blah blah blah. 204 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: And then it, you know, like it runs its course, 205 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: right because there's no evidence you did anything wrong, because 206 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: you didn't do anything wrong. And then you just go 207 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: about your and go. I made a bad decision being 208 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: connected to a creep, who amongst us in our lives 209 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: hadn't made a bad decision around somebody. We've had a 210 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: friendship or a relationship with her, you know, whatever right 211 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: that runs its course. The problem is so many people 212 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: have deflected and denied and stymiat on this that now 213 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: the American public keeps saying there has to be more, 214 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: There has to be more, there has to be people 215 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: that are protecting and it's just like fed itself, and 216 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: it may be far bigger than it actually is because 217 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: of the way it's been handled. 218 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 2: So the Speaker of the House came out and he 219 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: said that he was disappointed that the Senate approved the 220 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: bill without making any changes, like he he wants to 221 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: redact things. And now they're saying it's national security, but 222 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: I thought it was a hoax just a few days ago. 223 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: Well that's the problem. Nobody can keep their story straight. 224 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: And the other problem is when you get something like 225 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: this and it gets so big, it starts gets confusing 226 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: to people. That we kind of reached a point where 227 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: it's almost Kennedy assassination level. Think about all the documents 228 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: that they've released now about Kennedy that basically everything's out there. 229 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: There's nothing that proves anything other than Lee Harvey Oswald 230 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: that sorry refutes the story, like there's no concrete anything 231 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: that's been released that refutes the prevailing official story, which 232 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: is Lee Harvey Oswald was the gunman who assassinated John F. Kennedy. 233 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter at this point because it's been 234 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: so long and that it was so much was deflected 235 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: and denied and pushed back on that it doesn't even 236 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: It takes on a life of its own where people 237 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: just formed their own opinion. And I sort of think 238 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: that's where Epstein is that you may not get some 239 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: smoking gun of Hey, Bill Clinton was on this flight 240 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: and this happened, or this guy was on this flight 241 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: and this happened. But because it's been in such a 242 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: shadow of secrecy for so long, people think they think 243 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: something happened, and you're not going to convince him of others. 244 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: Okay, well, Donald Trump, he was in the Oval Office 245 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: and he did mention Bill Clinton and also Larry Summers. 246 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: As far as the Epstein file says, I have nothing 247 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 3: to do with Jeffrey Epstein. I threw him out of 248 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 3: my club many years ago because I thought he was 249 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: a sick perverb. But I guess I would turn out 250 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: to be right. But you know who does have Bill Clinton? 251 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: Larry Summers, who ran Harvard was with him every single night, 252 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: every single weekend. They lived together. They went to his 253 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: island many times. I never did Andrew Weissman here. All 254 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: these guys were friends of his. You don't even talk 255 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 3: about those people. 256 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: So Larry Summers, by the way, addressed it in one 257 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: of his classes. He's a teacher at Harvard, professor at Harvard, 258 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 2: and he has said he's going to step back now, 259 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: but he also resigned from his board of director's position 260 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 2: at open AI. 261 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'll be pasting to see what comes out 262 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: of it. But are we done with what does Epstein's 263 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: unit look like? Are we done with that story? Have 264 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: we moved on past that? Are you've got your phil 265 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: I've moved on? Okay, thank you? Yeah, very good. 266 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: It's Kennelly Casey on ninety three WIBC. 267 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,599 Speaker 1: Okay, So Michelle Obama is saying something. 268 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: She said Americans are not ready to elect a woman president. 269 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: It's nice that she knows the difference. 270 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: It's Kettle Casey, by the way. I'm rob that's Casey. 271 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: The Obamas sort of seem like they're not a thing anymore, right, 272 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: Like it's sort of like America has moved on from them. 273 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: Yes. 274 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I get if if you're a Democrat 275 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: can and you have an event where Barack Obama is 276 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: the headliner or whatever, people are going to show up. 277 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: He's a former president. He was you know, Biden was 278 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: such a disaster. Like the Democrats PROBA don't even claim him. 279 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: So he's probably the last Democrat president gets claimed. So 280 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying to the standpoint of nobody would be there, 281 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: But it doesn't seem there's like the aura or the 282 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: special anymore. It used to be oh, the Obamas whatever 283 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: they're doing. It just it's turning to gold and it's amazing. 284 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: That's it seems like those days are over. 285 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: Well, what is he doing these days? I don't see 286 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: him as often. And every time I see her, whether 287 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: it's on her podcast or as a guest on somebody 288 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: else's show, she's just complaining about something. 289 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: Well, it is fascint because you and I have talked 290 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: about this for years. There's every so often there's some 291 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: celebrity that ponders a run for public office. Whether it 292 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: was Hey, the Rock is going to run for president, 293 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: or Oprah's going to run for president, or it was 294 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: the most reason was Matthew McConaughey's going to rant for 295 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: governor of Texas, and they don't pull the trigger on 296 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: it because eventually you gotta have a position on something. 297 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: And the hype. It's sort of like all these college quarterbacks. 298 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: Arch Manning's got to be the greatest quarterback of all time. 299 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: His autograph is selling for seven hundred dollars. And remember 300 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: for the season, I was like, what if he's not 301 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: that great? It was like, you're crazy. And then try 302 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: wasn't very good and that kid from LSU wasn't very 303 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: good this year, like all other than Mendoza from IU, 304 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: all the tippy top projected quarterbacks have been Stinksville. And 305 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: that's an example of the hype. The hype is ridiculous 306 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: and then you got to see him play it out 307 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: on the fielding and you can never match the hype 308 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: almost no matter how good you actually are. The same 309 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: thing is true for politicians. Why the celebrities don't pull 310 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: the trigger because they know they will immediately alienate half 311 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: of their base. Obama was like the first sort of 312 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: celebrity politician in the sense of he wasn't a celebrity 313 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: before running, but he was. They met in the media, 314 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: made him a celebrity, like this guy is bigger than life, right, 315 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: Like he's gonna soothe the world. 316 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: He's gonna be we have one great speech and all 317 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: of a sudden everyone loved him. 318 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: And then he had to governor. And once he started governing, 319 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: he just sort of governed as some regular liberal with 320 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: bad ideas, didn't help the country. And so my point 321 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: at all of that is the hype with these politics. 322 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: Why it amazes me these people get fired up about 323 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: politicians they are meeting them are no, this is great, 324 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: They're just they're just failures, right, They just people let 325 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: you down. And I think with Obama, they time has 326 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: started to bear that out. 327 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: Them on paper is better than what they are in reality. 328 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: You know, there's this. 329 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: That's why you should always have low expectation. 330 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: I wish we had the audio to this. I didn't 331 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: think about it until he got into it. But what 332 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: a phenomenal movie. I don't know. Have you've ever seen 333 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: this called High Fidelity? John Cusack owns a record store 334 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: and keV have you ever seen the movie High Fidelity 335 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: with John Cusack? 336 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen bits and pieces. 337 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: Great movie. Early two thousands or late nineties. Young Jack 338 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: Black in the movie with him. He owns this record 339 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: store and there's all sorts of famous people in this movie, 340 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: and he gets this idea that, you know, his whole 341 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: life is records and music, and he gets this idea 342 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: that he has this like fever dream and it actually 343 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: involved he's talking to Bruce Springsteen like the real guy, 344 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: and he comes up with this idea that he can 345 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: move forward with his life if he makes a list 346 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: of his five favorite all time girlfriends and he goes 347 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: back and he finds him and he tracks him down 348 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: and he tells him this long goodbye, like how much 349 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: they meant to him, and I'm moving on with my 350 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: life and I got to get closure on my all 351 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: time my all time top top five. And Springsteen's listening 352 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: to him, drumming the guitar and goes, he goes, it'll 353 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: make them, it'll make them feel better, and Springsten goes, 354 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: it'll make you feel better. And that's sort of like 355 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: where we're at with this, like it makes you feel better. 356 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: So Michelle Obama, she said that we're not ready to 357 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: elect a woman president. Don't waste her time. She cited 358 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris's loss to Donald Trump as evidence She's been 359 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: out promoting her new book called The Look, and the 360 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: book is about fashion beauty in the scrutiny she endured 361 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: during her time as First. 362 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: Lady, isn't the victim mentality of these people just simply unbelievable? 363 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: Like you were the first Lady of the United States. 364 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: You were afforded all these riches and then the fortune 365 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: that came after that because of these book deals, movie deals, 366 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: You live in all these houses. Your party was asking 367 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: you to run for president of the United States. 368 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 2: You you thought, I remember when we had that conversation 369 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: and I said, they're going to pull Joe Biden. He's 370 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: not going to be the candidate. And you said it's 371 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: going to be Michelle Obama, and I was like, I 372 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: don't think it's going to be her, but I know 373 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: it's not going to be Joe Biden. 374 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: And then you say, okay, well, there are men. Two 375 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: women who have run for president. They have been major 376 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: party nominees for president. They have both lost, not because 377 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: they were women, but because they were just horrible candidates. 378 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, before Kamala Harris, was the most unlikable person 379 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: in recent history to ever have a major party domination 380 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: for president. It's the same reason Al Gordon when presidency 381 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: against Bush, the stain of the Clinton stays with them. 382 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: The country does not want more of the Clintons. With 383 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, she did not separate herself from Joe Biden. 384 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: She was a continuation of Biden. Anything to do with 385 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: her being a woman. It had to do with the 386 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: fact that people said, we have seen the condition of 387 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: the country, We're once again going to try something different 388 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: with Trump again, just like the last time. It doesn't 389 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: appear to be all that different. 390 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: Well with Kamala Harris, it also is. She didn't come 391 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 2: across as the sharpest knife in the drawer. 392 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: No, a woman could totally be president of the United States. 393 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: I would totally vote for a woman for president if 394 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: she were the best can espousing views of liberty and 395 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: freedom and limited government and lower taxes and paying down 396 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: our national debt inlight getting inflation under control, like women 397 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: can do anything in society now. And the idea that 398 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: like she's using that as some sort of crutch for 399 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: a victim impact statement, it's just ridiculous. 400 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: It's interesting because she wrote in her book that women 401 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: in politics are often judged on appearance rather than leader 402 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: ship ability, and she said that she wants to reclaim 403 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: her story after years of intense public analysis of her 404 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 2: clothing and hair. But I go back to every time 405 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 2: I see her on any podcast or any show, she's 406 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: talking about her clothing and hair. Her book is about 407 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: fashion and beauty. 408 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: Are you saying she's a hypocrite? 409 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: Saying? 410 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: Is that what you're implying? Yeah, are you besmirching the 411 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: good name of Michelle Obama? 412 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 2: Is it a good name? 413 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: Well, I'd just come back to I think you've reached 414 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: a point with them, just like with you know, any 415 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: of these politicians or these athletes or whatever, where they 416 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: didn't meet the expectation. He was a two term president 417 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: again because the Republicans were so bad. Romney was such 418 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: a bad candidate or he would not have even been reelected, 419 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: and he didn't really accomplish anything good for the country. 420 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: His signature thing, Obamacare, is a disaster to this day. 421 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: And so outside of the peopleho are like. 422 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: See forty three days of government shut down? 423 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: Right, people just say I think people average person goes, yeah, 424 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: you just were kind of a guy, and and once 425 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: you kind of become a guy to those people, they 426 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: need to be worshiped. They need to be elevated, they 427 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: need to be you know. Oh, they're here, Thank God, 428 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: they're here. The world is gonna be better. And the 429 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: most people have just seen through that with the Obamas. 430 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: It is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three WYBC. 431 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: Are we just just let the song play? 432 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: You don't remember what you're talking about? 433 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: Oh, I was just learning to State House Happenings. I'm 434 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: paying any attention to you during the break, I've done, God, 435 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: no attention whatsoever. 436 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: Typical. 437 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: My goal is to get out of here as soon 438 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: as this show ends, and I gotta upload State Hou's 439 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: happenings to the masses. By the way, would you like 440 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: to hear my headline for State Hol's happenings? 441 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 2: Yes? 442 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: Uh, State Hoou's happenings. Braun implodes the Senate rejects districting again. 443 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 2: There you go. Well, tell everybody when they can hear 444 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: State House. 445 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: Sunday mornings are on WIBC. But then, of course I 446 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: get the podcast up during the middle of the week, 447 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: which people love, and so I'll have that up and 448 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: tweet it out and to post up and anything else. 449 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: But anyway, no, I was making any attention. 450 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 2: Anyway based on the headline, you're talking about redistricting. Oh yeah, 451 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 2: the State House House. 452 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm just taking a giant dump over dump all over 453 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: brawn for thirty minutes. 454 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 2: So not much different than our ver first segment on 455 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: the Kendel and Casey Show. 456 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: No, No, what are we doing? What's going on? 457 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about the all electric F one 458 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: fifty lightning. 459 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: Did I have like a confused look on my face? 460 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 2: I knew I could just tell you had no idea 461 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 2: what the topics with Lauper? Absolutely? 462 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: No, Oh, you're just playing that for fun. 463 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 2: It's just the selling Kevin that for me. There's another 464 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: story you had that was money related. Well, yeah, that's true, 465 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: the Thanksgiving I'm not sure if you're going to get 466 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: to that next ye Are we going to get to it? 467 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: Do you want to talk about the Ford executives considering 468 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: canceling the all electric F one fifty lightning truck. 469 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't care. Whatever you want to do, no 470 00:21:58,640 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: matter to me. 471 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: They it was projected to sell up to one hundred 472 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: and fifty thousand units annually, but they know only thirty 473 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: three thousand were sold last year. 474 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: Well, people didn't want an electric truck. You mean, like 475 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: a truck that hauls things around is heavy duty and 476 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: you know it requires really getting down in the muck 477 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: and the mire. People didn't want an electric truck. 478 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was low consumer demand for this. 479 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: We want have seen that. 480 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 2: They also said that electric trucks are difficult to price competitively. 481 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: So these couple things combined, they're considering a Nixon it eh. 482 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: Although they are considering investing in a new electric truck, 483 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: this just won't be the Ford f one fifty. 484 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: Well, these these car companies are largely doing this because 485 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: they've been subsidized by the government to do it. 486 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 2: There you go. 487 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: They're not doing it because people want them. Now people are, 488 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: they get forced into them, tax breaks, whatever. But they're 489 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: not doing this stuff out of the goodness of their heart. 490 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: They're doing this because we the taxpayers, have essentially paid 491 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: for these for profit companies to make money off of it. 492 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: That's why they've done it. 493 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: Not only that, but there's the lack of the ev 494 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: charging stations. Do you remember with the Inflation Reduction Act 495 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: they were going to have fifty thousand charging stations all 496 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 2: over the country. No, it didn't happen. Why not There 497 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 2: was a one report that said they built eight. 498 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: They were going to build how many five hundred thousand, 499 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 1: half a million, and they built eight, and they built eight. 500 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: They stopped at eight. 501 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 2: They wanted to have five hundred thousand by twenty thirty, 502 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: and they didn't quite get there. 503 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: I do that all the time with like yard projects, 504 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm gonna get this done today, and 505 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: then I get the equivalent of eight into five hundred thousand, 506 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: like I might dig a hole, yeah, or like I 507 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: might start to dig a hole, and then I'm like. 508 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: Nah, yeah, what did I start this for? I don't 509 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: want to do this. That's kind of what happened with 510 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: the EV charging stations. All right, Kevin, you wanted to 511 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: talk about money average spending. This is from study Fines. 512 00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: Americans celebrating Thanksgiving are expected to spend nine hundred fifty 513 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: two dollars on food, drinks, decorations, travel, and miscellaneous iteas. 514 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: No way, yes, no, no, no no cost breakdown. Are 515 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 2: you ready for that? 516 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: You're taking the average American for Thanksgiving, he's going to 517 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: spend nine. 518 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: Hundred bucks nine and fifty two dollars. No way, yes, 519 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy five dollars on food, one hundred 520 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: and ten dollars on beverages decorations eighty three dollars miscellaneous 521 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 2: category two hundred ninety one dollars. 522 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 3: What what what? 523 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: You kid? 524 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: Just say? Miss a? What the hell's miscellaneous with Thanksgiving? 525 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: If it's not food or drinks? 526 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe they need to go buy a 527 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: new folding table? 528 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: And what for the kids to stable Thanksgiving? Are we 529 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: dealing with here? What are what is this the Moselle 530 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: Sanders operation over here? What are we doing so a lot? 531 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: One hundred Wait wait wait one hundred and seventy five 532 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: dollars for food? Is nobody else helping? Is nobody? Everybody 533 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: comeing to your house and like, well, ethel will take 534 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: care of. 535 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 2: All of it. There are some generational differences when it 536 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 2: comes to cost sharing. Baby boomers one third believe that 537 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: the host should cover all the costs. 538 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: Oh no way. 539 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: When it comes to gen z, a third say, now 540 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 2: we should split up the costs among everybody equally. 541 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean it's like, but don't people bring stuff? 542 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: Isn't that the customary thing? If you're going to a 543 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: large Thanksgiving? Hey? Can I bring anything? 544 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? Typically you kind of divide it out right, whoever 545 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: is the worst cook has to bring the paper products. 546 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: Well, like we like my wife's grandmother. She's phenomenal and 547 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: she just loves to do all this stuff and handle 548 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: it and da da da da dah. So we just 549 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: stay out of the way and like, can I help 550 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: you U set the table or whatever? But the offer 551 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,959 Speaker 1: is there, right, can I bring Can I bring up 552 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: you know, a twinkie or you know whatever to help 553 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: with the the there's. 554 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 2: No way what's this according to what is fine? But 555 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not making this up. 556 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: But where we're like, okay, let's stick through this logically. 557 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: What they say the average Thanksgiving meal is what nine 558 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: bucks or something like that? Is that what we came 559 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: up with? Ten dollars something like that? You have seventeen 560 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: people at your house. 561 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 2: I guess you're having more of an open house or 562 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: a very large family. 563 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: Just buy the whole block in see, I call a 564 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: bull crap at this. And what's the miscellaneous? 565 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 2: What could possibly Yeah, they've already covered food, beverages, decorations, 566 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 2: and even travel, So what would be miscellaneous, Like I said, 567 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 2: unless you got to go buy like an extra table 568 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: or folding chairs, or. 569 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm gutting this whole study. I'm just picking it apart 570 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: here because I don't know what miscellaneous for Thanksgiving would be. 571 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: There's no costume, thirty five crafts, arts and crafts. 572 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. 573 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 2: Thirty five percent of Americans are reducing their budget by 574 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: an average of forty one percent. They're using strategies like 575 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: smaller gatherings, potluck style meals like what you mentioned, cheaper ingredients, 576 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: or they're skipping travel altogether. Now, there was this woman 577 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: on Fox. She's a co host of the Dave Ramsey Show. 578 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: You're familiar with that, and she was giving tips. 579 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: On dead free that guy. 580 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, she was giving tips on how to save money 581 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: on the holidays. Budget. 582 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 4: Budget, budget, you need a plan. Also, remember adults don't 583 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 4: need gifts. Okay, focus on the people in your life 584 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 4: who are aged three to eighteen. Grandma doesn't need slippers. 585 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 4: If they don't live by you, don't get them a gift. 586 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 4: Now's not the time to spend and break the bank 587 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 4: sending packages across the country, Dana. Focus on the people 588 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 4: in your life ages three to eighteen. That's my thirty 589 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 4: seconds for you. 590 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: Exempt you're out, I gotta do anything for my cat. 591 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: I have to buy anything for you for you, not 592 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: there for Kevin baby Tyrant. 593 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: See O good we did on that segment. I had 594 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: no idea what we're talking about. We're paying attention at all, 595 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: think about actually tried. Yeah, Abduel's going to join it. Yeah, 596 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: think Abduel's going to join us. 597 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: Next, it's Kendall ly Casey on ninety three WYBCAM love 598 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 2: it and I love my cont. 599 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 1: I can't like them. A better way to wrap them 600 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: up with this program talking about the cold play and 601 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: other failures of Mike Brown, Kendler Casey's John Rop Casey's here. 602 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: Look who it is, author, broadcaster, provocateur, owner, operator of 603 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: India Politics dot org. I'm doing keep Jaba's Hello. 604 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 5: And paper millionaire too by the way today. 605 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, on paper, right, it's always on paper. You 606 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: and Elon Musk Okay, I'll give you that one. Okay. 607 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: So you were at the State House yesterday. It sort 608 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: of seemed like one of those wacky days in the 609 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: history of Indiana politics and government. You essentially had as 610 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: close to like a complete meltdown as you're going to 611 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: get from the governor. What a sad state of affairs 612 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: for Mike Braun. It didn't end well. 613 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 5: Whether it was Mike Broun, what was Michael beck with, 614 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 5: whether it was the Baker's dozen of read for redistricting 615 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 5: protesters act it should have been in the rotunda demanding redistricting. 616 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 5: You know, after they stood up straight and got off 617 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 5: their walkers and had their hearing aids, you know, adjusted 618 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 5: a little bit. I've I said, I'll come in politics 619 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 5: for thirty years, tenn Illinois twenty here. I've never seen 620 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 5: anything quite like this, and I've seen some stuff in 621 00:28:59,520 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 5: my day. 622 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about the response to the governor. 623 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: Because it's one thing for something to not go your way, 624 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: it's nothing to fight. But the language he's using, like 625 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to compel I can't remember the exact quote. 626 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: It is something like he's going to compel the Senate 627 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: to come back to work. Anything was going you can't 628 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,239 Speaker 1: make them do anything, dude, do you not know how 629 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: this operates? They'll come when they want to come. 630 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 5: But when the governor said I'm going to compel them 631 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 5: to come and felt like the sign of the exorcist. 632 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 5: Compel you, what are you doing? 633 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: And doesn't he know how ridiculous that sounds, and that 634 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: looks and see. 635 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 5: And the thing is, you can't really compel them to 636 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 5: do anything anymore now because session starts on an organization day, 637 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 5: a special session, right, that's the first official day. And 638 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 5: so now they can basically stay and do whatever they 639 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 5: they want period now. The speaker, Todd Houston said, a 640 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 5: couple of days, a couple of weeks in December, just 641 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 5: in case, you know, something does happen and they need 642 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 5: to come back. But Rob Brady the Senate based like, no, 643 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 5: we're not coming back. We're coming back in January fifth, 644 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 5: because it's. 645 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: Stupid quote about we're in the first standing of this game. 646 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: It's like, dude, it is almost December. The filing starts 647 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: in January. You don't even have a map. What delusional 648 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: planner are you living on, Grandpa? Where you think the 649 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: game has just begun? By all, I mean, at the 650 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: very lead, at the very best, it's the bottom of 651 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: the ninth and it's eight to two with two outs, and. 652 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 5: So the World Series is the last game of the 653 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 5: World Series. It's eight to two, bottom of the ninth, 654 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 5: one out left to go. It's the last game of 655 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 5: the World series and like, Okay, we're really gotta get him. Now, 656 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 5: we're gonna come back. 657 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: Like yeah, Like I mean, what who is advised? Isn't 658 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: there anybody in there who can say, displease stop, mister governor. 659 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: You're making yourself. I mean, it's great for us, It's 660 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: great the implosion and meltdown of Braun over an issue, 661 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: by the way, that most people don't care about, and 662 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: those that do don't want it. It's great for our show. 663 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: Nothing makes me happier than seeing this guy go down. 664 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: But like, somebody's gotta stop him. Well, the thing is, 665 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: I think. 666 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 5: Here's here's my thing is going on the governor's cabinet 667 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 5: right now is that there are institutionalists, people who've been 668 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 5: there for a while and governess is a bad idea, 669 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 5: don't do it. No, But then there's other people like no, governor, 670 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 5: stay fight, stand your ground. Well you can stay on 671 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 5: your ground, so they bury you in it. I guess, 672 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 5: but I don't see. I did not see how this 673 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 5: is going to end. Well, I said from day one, 674 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 5: this is not going to happen. I was right, Okay, 675 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 5: there we go. Rob admitted it, which means. 676 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: My day that was worth all this just just well, 677 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: and we talked it well, but I was right with you, right, 678 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you and I have said the same thing 679 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: from the beginning. And one thing we talked about of 680 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: state as happenings and case I got it this earlier, 681 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: this ruling in Texas, which ultimately could get overturned to 682 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. I think it will. But it is 683 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: playing on exactly as we had said with Marion County, 684 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: which is the Texas maps have been struck down by 685 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: a Trump judge, by the way, because of their impact 686 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: on black and Hispanic voters, which is exactly what we 687 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: said could happen with Marion County, which is part of 688 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: the reason those guys Bray in the Senate didn't want 689 00:31:59,560 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: to do it. 690 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 5: They didn't want to do it for a number of 691 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 5: different reasons. And they when they took and actually when 692 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 5: they took the vote to start the forth for the 693 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,479 Speaker 5: day they're going to come back, that kind of gave 694 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 5: us with an idea of what the vote was gonna 695 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 5: was gonna break down and look like a clear number 696 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 5: of Republicans, a clear number of Democrats, because once say 697 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 5: the vote was like what thirty seven to like seventeen 698 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 5: or something along those something something along thosem. 699 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: And they didn't. They didn't even get half of the 700 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: Republicans to go along with this, right, I mean, like 701 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: they could well it was right almost right at half, 702 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't think they got to half 703 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: of the Republicans want to stay a fight on this. 704 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: And that's why it was so weird when Braun was 705 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: on Hammer in Nigel yesterday talking about well almost half 706 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: a Braised caucus was against him. Well, the majority were 707 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: for him, and that means they were against you, skippy, Like, 708 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,959 Speaker 1: I mean, that's such a bit like the grasping its 709 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: straws on this trying to find something to hang your 710 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: hat on, to me, just makes him look pathetic. 711 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 5: It didn't help I hear. It is one, two, three, four, five, six, ten, Yeah, 712 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 5: less than half. Yeah, and so I just I find 713 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 5: it bizarre. Okay. 714 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: Then the other side of this is they have the rally, 715 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: and you were at the State House yesterday. They have 716 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: the rally at the State House and what maybe thirty 717 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: thirty ish people, I mean the head counts for seemed 718 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: to like between thirty and fifty people show up, I 719 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: say twenty nine and a half recount Diego. It's I'll 720 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: go tell you be nice. But you said about Diego, 721 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: so fine, keep going. The uh it's the same people, right, 722 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: like the hardcore people our property tax rally, all sorts 723 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: of new faces who don't usually show up to things. 724 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: Didn't do any good in the end, but it was 725 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: all sorts of new people like, hey, that person doesn't 726 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: usually come to stuff. They were telling us, Oh, I've 727 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: never been to one of these things before. This was 728 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: a pathetically small crowd. And it's the same people. And 729 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: if I'm a lawmaker, look at this going. When does 730 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: this suppose a large group of people who wants this 731 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: show up because they don't show up polls, they don't 732 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: show up town halls, and now they don't show up 733 00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: to this, where are they? 734 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 5: Then they had to Then they had Then I remind 735 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 5: people that in the in our business, optics matter, and 736 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 5: so if you're gonna have a you, you're gonna have 737 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 5: a small crowd like that, get a small room, right 738 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 5: But they they they did right the rotunda, which I 739 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 5: was like, really yeah, yeah, bad. 740 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: And and you got look you got Micah and Diego 741 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: as the basic of the spokespeople for this. If you 742 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: were to pick the two worst people in the state 743 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: House that you could possibly have to say, show who 744 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: would be the best influence these lawmakers to do something, 745 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: it'd be those two chuckle heads. And look at what 746 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: you got? 747 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely nothing. 748 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 5: And it was even funnier, uh because they were on 749 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 5: the first They were on the second floor, which is 750 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 5: the first floor in the state House, but on the 751 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 5: rail where this house and senad are all the lobbisters 752 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 5: kind of looking at like is that the crowded, Like, yeah, 753 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 5: that's the crowd, Like, yeah, it's kind of small, Like 754 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 5: where's my binoculars to see what's going on on? 755 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that's the that's the crowd. I think that's 756 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: the other takeaway. What's Micah without w i v C. 757 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: Nothing nothing without this show in w I v C. 758 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: That was that crowd was embarrassing? All right? So does 759 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: this end? I mean, at some point Rod Bray's got 760 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: to stand up for himself. He I'm loath to say 761 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: something nice about Rod Bray, but he's been very nice 762 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: to Braun so far through this. At some point, doesn't 763 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: he have to say enough out of you, Grandpa and 764 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: put him in his place. I think they did it. 765 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: I think they. 766 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 5: I think I think Rod did it by not by 767 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 5: not putting, by basically saying we're going to schedule this. 768 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: Uh. 769 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: He did the worst you could do to someone like 770 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: a Mike Braun. You can ignore him. 771 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, because in a nutshell, that's what they did when 772 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 5: they took the vote. Uh to come back on January 773 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 5: fifth like that. There's your registering vote right there. Nobody 774 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 5: wants it. Have a nice day. We will gavel in 775 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 5: on the fall of gavel on January fifth at at 776 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 5: one o'clock in the afternoon. 777 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: Find him over at indiepolitics dot org. Abdulla keeps shabaz. 778 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. It's gonna do it for us today. 779 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: Thank you to Kevin. Great job as always, Casey, and 780 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 1: most importantly you the listener. You are the most important part. 781 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: Without you, there is no US stick around. Tony Katz 782 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: coming up next, Kittle A Casey Show twy three w IBC.