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Speaker 1: And a here we go. Good Wednesday morning to you

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Speaker 1: once again. Westfield, Indiana's where we call home. We will

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Speaker 1: do that's today, Tomorrow, Friday, Monday, and Tuesday when the

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Speaker 1: cold top of morning practice. James Boyd, you and I

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Speaker 1: are right here. Thank you to Cam on site engineer.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to Mark Dydon back in studio, and shout

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Speaker 1: out to Ken from Grand Park. He delivers these ice

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Speaker 1: cold waters to us every morning. Gosh does the sun

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Speaker 1: always look out beautiful?

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Speaker 2: I'm usually not outside to see it, so I guess

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Speaker 2: so may we do have a great view though cool

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Speaker 2: clos Indiana you ever but I like it.

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Speaker 1: Again once again hashtag Indiana. Troy Glendenning getting the fields

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Speaker 1: ready to go. They will be in use today. First

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Speaker 1: practice coming up ten am today. Typical with the start

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Speaker 1: to training camp, they'll kind of ease into things. An

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Speaker 1: hour long session I believe today and tomorrow Aba hair

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Speaker 1: over an hour tomorrow, but expect listen back to we

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Speaker 1: needs to ramp up again. It's a four day stretch

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Speaker 1: here to start training camp. It's the longest stretch of

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Speaker 1: consecutive practices the colts will have all camp long. Josh downs,

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Speaker 1: we were hoping to sneak him in at the end

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Speaker 1: of the show yesterday, but we will play that for

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Speaker 1: you coming up at seven point thirty. Again. Enjoyed the

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Speaker 1: conversation with Josh yesterday, so we'll play that for you

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Speaker 1: at seven point thirty. And you know, obviously, anytime the

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Speaker 1: GM talks James, it was some level of news from

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Speaker 1: Chris Bawd yesterday. We'll certainly hit on Anthony Richardson. But

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Speaker 1: I can't recall. This is my fifteenth training camp covering

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Speaker 1: the Colts. I don't know if I've ever sat here

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Speaker 1: on the first day of practice and not seen a

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Speaker 1: single player on the physically unable to perform lists. Now

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Speaker 1: we know Zio Franklin will not practice, but his absence

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Speaker 1: is not expected to be too too long, so I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't seen an injury report that's healthy

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Speaker 1: to start camping quite some time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is kind of weird. We'll have to see

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Speaker 2: along the same lines of zire Fra cleaning out for

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Speaker 2: a little while. I there's anybody else that might be

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Speaker 2: a little bit dinged up, but still a very positive

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Speaker 2: sign for your team's wanted to training camp. Because, as

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Speaker 2: Josh Downs told us, and you'll hear from herehim later

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Speaker 2: on this hour, I believe.

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Speaker 3: But he told us.

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Speaker 2: You know, your body never really feels as good as

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Speaker 2: it does to start, you know, the year, So that

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Speaker 2: is a good sign for the Colts.

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Speaker 1: Mark, good morning to you. How are things back in studio?

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Speaker 4: They are good. I miss you guys. Shout out to

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Speaker 4: Cluster Truck yesterday that delivered me some nice food while

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Speaker 4: you guys were out. So I did get to see

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Speaker 4: another human, that being Evan Cheryl. He smells a lot

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Speaker 4: better than you guys do, so it was nice to

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Speaker 4: do with their see him.

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Speaker 1: Smells, looks better, he brings better gifts than we do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But other than that, I mean, it's me rolling solo.

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Speaker 4: So Zipper is going down, guys.

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Speaker 1: A little in there boy, now, hr might be in

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Speaker 1: there soon here on this Wednesday morning. Obviously some Chris

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Speaker 1: bout audio we can get to. I thought Kurt Signette

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Speaker 1: was feeling himself out in the city of Sinya.

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Speaker 3: He knew he was gonna go there.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, he heard you hating on him on the show,

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Speaker 2: and he was like, this is for Kevin bonwhen you

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Speaker 1: About sick that I'm always struck By. He's always ready.

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Speaker 1: I mean he is when he comes with the Zingers.

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Speaker 1: have time for Kurt signetty Clippers as well. Tyr's Halliburton

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Speaker 1: spoke yesterday, first time we've heard really from him in

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Speaker 1: day ago Game seven. So a plenty of audio to

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Speaker 1: get to. But let's do begin with the Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 1: news from yesterday. I guess you don't call it totally

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Speaker 1: no restrictions. The restriction is volume and not lack of participation.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the spring it was no participation.

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Speaker 1: The expectation is right in front of us, James in

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Speaker 2: Yes, I believe you might have had a chance to

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Speaker 2: I believe it was something like you know, does the

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Speaker 2: And Chris Ballard sort of dismissed that notion. Now, I

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Speaker 1: I don't think Chris's numbers matched up with my numbers.

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Speaker 2: No, no, But nevertheless, it did not sound like he

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Speaker 2: make sure that he keeps the you know, QB competition

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Speaker 2: him basically say, no, this is still a very open

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Speaker 3: And as you've pointed out Kevin a.

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Speaker 2: Lot and profusely throughout this show, the games are gonna

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Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of confirm that notion that they will indeed

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Speaker 1: Looks like a gusta National To me, it's refic work

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Speaker 1: I would say this with Richardson. You know, I know

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Speaker 1: next week, So next week there shouldn't be the volume

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Speaker 1: maybe he scales it back Thursday or Friday, right, and

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Speaker 1: then Saturday he rams it back up. But I'm really

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Speaker 1: That's probably the important dates for me. They're all important,

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Speaker 1: to be fair with Anthony Richardson, but those are the

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Speaker 2: Me, absolutely, and I'm curious to know Kevin, you talk

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Speaker 2: about scaling up, you know, how often will you have

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Speaker 3: If you scale back at all? Once he gets fully

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Speaker 2: Just because of the injury history there with the shoulder,

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Speaker 2: and I did have a chance to ask Chris Ballard yesterday,

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Speaker 2: forward because of the just injury history with Anthony and

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Speaker 2: how delicate shoulders can be, you know, is that something

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Speaker 2: where for the rest of his career, perhaps he doesn't

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Speaker 2: go full bore like the rest of your quarterbacks or

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Speaker 2: like other quarterbacks around the league. And not saying you

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Speaker 2: still can't have a successful career with that in mind,

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Speaker 2: but I believe that they will certainly keep a closer

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Speaker 2: eye on his shoulder and for his Kevin, as we've

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Speaker 2: talked about throughout the show, really throughout his career here

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Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, and as of late even more, you can't

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Speaker 2: have any more slip ups like we can't get out

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Speaker 2: here and you know, come Friday, Saturday and it's all

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Speaker 2: we got to shut him down. Oh he's feeling too sore,

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Speaker 2: Because at that point then you really have to question

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Speaker 2: kind of reinforces why you brought in Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the next setback might be.

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Speaker 2: And and it's tough to say that because that's right,

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Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, you want him to be healthy, and

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Speaker 2: obviously we don't root for anybody to be injured. But

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Speaker 2: the reality is that we can't trust him to be healthy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at all the numbers from

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Speaker 2: very promising. I mean, obviously, seventeen miss games because injuries,

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Speaker 2: I'm sore again. So that can't be a conversation we're

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Speaker 2: having next week.

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Speaker 1: Avalanche late third quarter, early fourth last night absolutely doomed

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Speaker 1: the Fever. Anybody watched the game, I thought the Fever

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Speaker 1: played pretty darn well through two and a half quarters,

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Speaker 1: and they actually led by I think it might have

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Speaker 1: been seven. Yeah, they're late in the third, and then

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Speaker 1: it just got out of hand in a hurry there,

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Speaker 1: which I think was the expectation going into the game. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: I didn't think the Fever would be leading by seven

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Speaker 1: from the Fever there down the stretch. Again, Kaitlyn Clark

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Speaker 1: did not play Kelsey Mitchell. Big scoring night for her,

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Speaker 1: I think it was twenty nine, but a tying a

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Speaker 1: season high in turnovers for the Fever. As they restart

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Speaker 1: here the second half of the season with a loss

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Speaker 1: in the Big Apple.

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Speaker 3: Well kind of set out to me, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: It reminded me a little bit, not fully of Game

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Speaker 2: seven when you don't have your best player. And I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about Game seven with the Pacers, but we don't

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Speaker 2: have you don't have your best player.

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Speaker 1: I feel like.

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Speaker 2: Most teams can hang if you're really good, which I

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Speaker 2: think the Fever when they're you know, fully healthy, they're

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Speaker 2: very good team and they've shown that they can be

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Speaker 2: some of the best teams in the WNBA.

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Speaker 3: However, you're like.

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Speaker 2: Losing the battle of attrition at some point not have

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Speaker 2: your star player, not having even just Caitlin and Clark

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Speaker 2: you used to have to account for her presence. That

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and considering that he was part of that rebuild,

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Speaker 1: with him after our show yesterday. We'll play that for you.

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Speaker 1: On the other side. He did answer the question him

437
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Speaker 1: versus Kenny Moore best out of seven to one on one.

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Speaker 1: The wide receiver did not hold back at all. We're

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Speaker 1: live from training camp here in Westfield. This is the

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Speaker 1: Fan Morning Show here at Grand Park. We're back Colt's

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Speaker 1: first day of practice and the third year wide out.

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Speaker 1: Josh Downs joins us right now. Josh, you were talking

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Speaker 1: to the media a little bit earlier. You mentioned different

444
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Speaker 1: focus kind of some of your off season training. Could

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Speaker 1: you expand a little bit on that. What was different about.

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Speaker 5: The Yeah, just really looking at my game and what

447
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Speaker 5: I feel like I need to improve on, and then

448
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Speaker 5: started working with a new receiver trainer and tried to

449
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Speaker 5: hone in on those specif fix and work them, work

450
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Speaker 5: what I feel like I need to do most importantly,

451
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Speaker 5: and then also refining the things that I feel like

452
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Speaker 5: I do well. And then really just being being in

453
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Speaker 5: shape is a huge thing. So pushing myself to the

454
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Speaker 5: limit of being just tired. I mean a lot of

455
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Speaker 5: footballs play when you're when you're really exhausted, So it's

456
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Speaker 5: like going out there and working out when you're one

457
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Speaker 5: hundred percent every day is not really realistic because after

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Speaker 5: two days of camp you're going to be already shot.

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Speaker 5: So at the end of the day, those two things

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Speaker 5: for me were very important.

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Speaker 1: Which wide out is winning the conditioning test?

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Speaker 5: Oh see, I mean we're a competitive group. I like,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think if we're just doing conditioning, I

464
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Speaker 5: will win. But I think Alex would say he'd win.

465
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Speaker 5: I feel like a d would say he'd win. So

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Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like mentioned little.

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, I'm not I mean, you know, just

469
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Speaker 5: I'm just going off who who I think is most

470
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Speaker 5: athletic in the group. So you can throw dueling in

471
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Speaker 5: there too, and then Anthony google real athletic as well.

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Speaker 5: So we got a pretty athletic group.

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Speaker 2: So you mentioned that wide receiver room, which I think

474
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Speaker 2: is probably one of the strongest groups on this team.

475
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Speaker 2: How do you all push each other when you know

476
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Speaker 2: it's only one ball? And obviously you're happy for someone

477
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Speaker 2: else's success, but as you mentioned a few minutes ago,

478
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Speaker 2: you want to make sure that when I'm open to

479
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Speaker 2: guy goes to me. So what is it like just

480
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Speaker 2: battling with those guys in the room to raise the level?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: No, we're all a family. So at the end of

483
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Speaker 5: the day, your brother doing good, you're really happy for him.

484
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Speaker 5: But also, as you know, receivers all got that little

485
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Speaker 5: not diva but air receiver wants the ball. So you

486
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Speaker 5: got to just go out there and take advantage of

487
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Speaker 5: every opportunity you get, so like times like this is

488
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Speaker 5: the perfect time to go out there and do what

489
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Speaker 5: you're supposed to do. When they call your number, make

490
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Speaker 5: the play. So then when when Sundays come around, they

491
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Speaker 5: have no other obligation to but then the call your

492
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Speaker 5: number and then yeah, I mean the targets, that's just

493
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Speaker 5: what it may be. But you got to just go

494
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Speaker 5: out there and make the players that come your way.

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Speaker 1: It's the best thing you did the soft season, favorite

496
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Speaker 1: thing you did the off season.

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Speaker 5: The best thing I did, Like, h can I can

498
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Speaker 5: I go back into the spring too?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, best thing I did me and my me

501
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Speaker 5: and my girl with the Disney World, that was that

502
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Speaker 5: was a great time.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, now that sounds like hell to me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I got kids right, a little different, so.

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Speaker 1: Adult Disney World looks like what I mean, are you riding?

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Speaker 5: I mean yeah, right, the Rise, you know Orlando they

507
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Speaker 5: got We stayed at this place called the Conrad they

508
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Speaker 5: got they got a great golf course, great spa, excellent

509
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Speaker 5: food there. So it was just it was like that

510
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Speaker 5: sounds a lot better for it was like there was

511
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Speaker 5: a lot of stuff besides is Disney right, And then

512
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Speaker 5: like Orlando has good like restaurants and stuff, so we

513
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Speaker 5: was out there eating too.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 1: We mentioned a little bit earlier the California trip. You know,

517
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Speaker 1: obviously teams to this pretty much every off season, where

518
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Speaker 1: the QBS and the past catchers get together. What was

519
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Speaker 1: that like for you guys, take fans a little bit

520
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes and what you guys did. Obviously some

521
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Speaker 1: work on the field, but also a little bit of

522
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Speaker 1: fun time off the field.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, No work on the field in the morning,

524
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Speaker 5: and then the rest of the day is really like

525
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Speaker 5: team bonding kind of things. Like I said, we went fishing,

526
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Speaker 5: we went we went golfing, and then we went out

527
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Speaker 5: to dinner every night and then sometimes went out. But

528
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Speaker 5: it was it's just a it's a good time to just,

529
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Speaker 5: you know, like I said, see your teammates off the

530
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Speaker 5: field and not just like every day go out there

531
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Speaker 5: and see the dude with the helmet on. You're you're

532
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Speaker 5: hanging out with them off the field at a restaurant,

533
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Speaker 5: going fishing, going golf and so you really see like

534
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Speaker 5: their true personality and and yeah, football brings you a

535
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Speaker 5: lot of your closest friends. So I feel like a

536
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Speaker 5: lot of my best friends in life are front football,

537
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Speaker 5: so I felt like that opens up that window as well.

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Speaker 1: You got some Scottie Scheffler in your game.

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Speaker 5: Oh I'm not see Look, I'm all right. I say

540
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Speaker 5: Alex is the best golfer in the group. But if

541
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Speaker 5: I really want to work at it, I can be good.

542
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Speaker 5: But I just I've just been inconsistent at the work.

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Speaker 5: That sounds like every golf rid.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like a guy that's got a little bit

545
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Speaker 1: of like the golf.

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Speaker 5: It's it's just fun. But golf is one of them sports.

547
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Speaker 5: It is just so like you think you're doing good

548
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Speaker 5: one hole and then you get to the next hole

549
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Speaker 5: and I'm just like, just like, whoa what is this?

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Speaker 3: So it's Josh.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned a few minutes ago that obviously the goal

552
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: this year is gets a playoffs, like it is every year.

553
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Speaker 2: But what have you learned just through the first couple

554
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Speaker 2: of years of your career about how hard it is

555
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Speaker 2: to win at this level and how hard it is

556
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Speaker 2: to maybe sustain that in the NFL?

557
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Speaker 5: Nah, definitely, It's it comes down to like who's the

558
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 5: most disciplined team and who makes the less mistakes because

559
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 5: the talent gap on each team is so slim. So

560
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Speaker 5: at the end of the day, it's it's being disciplined,

561
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Speaker 5: it's it's really doing everything that when you're tired, you're

562
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Speaker 5: not gonna go out there and make mistakes. So I

563
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Speaker 5: feel like, yeah, winning at this level is incredibly hard

564
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Speaker 5: because you can watch a team on film and be like, oh,

565
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Speaker 5: I don't they might not look that good, But then

566
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Speaker 5: you go out there and play and it's like, well

567
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Speaker 5: they beat us, and it's like we you see back

568
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 5: on the table, you made a lot of mistakes. So yeah,

569
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Speaker 5: this level is just I feel like it's about discipline

570
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Speaker 5: and making the less mistakes than the team in front

571
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Speaker 5: of you. So yeah, this year we got we gotta

572
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Speaker 5: just hone in on the details. Everybody do their job.

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Speaker 1: It's been a nice start at the NFL career for

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Speaker 1: Josh Downsy's with us here. Year three upcoming for him.

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Speaker 1: If you could take any quality from one of those

576
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Speaker 1: other wide outs in your room and put that into

577
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Speaker 1: your game, what would it.

578
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Speaker 5: Be, mm hmm, any quality? Let's see, I would uh

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Speaker 5: I probably take a p's uh D ball ability. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'll take that, he just mosses, Yeah, I'll take I'll

581
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Speaker 5: take into ability. I'll take that.

582
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Speaker 1: What would they say for you? What would they take

583
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Speaker 1: from you?

584
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 5: They probably take my my quickness or let's see my

585
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Speaker 5: quickness or yeah, I'll say my my agility.

586
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Speaker 1: Now, we had Kenny Moore on the show yesterday. James

587
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Speaker 1: and now were going back and forth. Would Kenny or

588
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Speaker 1: Josh take the bait?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Best out of seven? One on one? Out here? You

591
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Speaker 1: or Kenny?

592
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Speaker 8: Did he take?

593
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Speaker 5: Did he take the bait?

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Speaker 1: Well? I was hoping you'd answer first.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm going best out of seven. I mean

596
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Speaker 5: I'm going with me for show, best out of seven.

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Speaker 1: Like Pacers thunder, best out of seven, like like like

598
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Speaker 1: a pretty good matchup for three or sweet.

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Speaker 5: Four one for two? Maybe yeah, man.

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Speaker 1: Looking like a true wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta would give him one out of respect? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Two?

603
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, two out of respect. One, Okay, I'll give you one.

604
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Speaker 1: Now Kenny wouldn't answer. Is that a lack of confidence

605
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Speaker 1: out of no?

606
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 5: Nah, it's just him just he just he just being

607
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Speaker 5: a vet and I'm just I'm just the youngest. So

608
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Speaker 5: you go, you know, you got to bring it to

609
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 5: the vet. That's how it goes it every sport. The

610
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 5: young cat gotta go after the og.

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Speaker 1: Now from afar. When I see one versus twenty three,

612
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Speaker 1: I perk up like I'm like, this is good versus good.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel that way like when you see him

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Speaker 1: across me?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, I love. I love going against Kenny.

616
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Speaker 5: He's one of the best slot nickels in the league,

617
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 5: best corners in the league, So I know going against

618
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Speaker 5: him every day is going against the best. It's not

619
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Speaker 5: just going against like some slap that's in front of me.

620
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Speaker 5: So I feel like when he's in front of me,

621
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Speaker 5: I'm giving my I'm giving my best every time, and

622
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Speaker 5: he helps me go against better guys on Sunday as well,

623
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Speaker 5: so well he's better than most of the guys on Sunday,

624
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Speaker 5: so he helps me in that manner. So yeah, I

625
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Speaker 5: love going against Kenny. I really only go against him

626
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Speaker 5: in a lot of drills because I feel like that's

627
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 5: how it's supposed to be. You're not supposed to try

628
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Speaker 5: to go against somebody that's not the best.

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Speaker 2: Josh, Obviously, you don't decide who's gonna tarry a quarterback.

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Speaker 8: Boy.

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Speaker 2: Has it been like just building chemistry obviously no ar already,

632
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Speaker 2: but building chemistry with Daniel Jones and throughout this quarterback battle.

633
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, DJ DJ is a great dude, So I mean,

634
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 5: you gotta, you gotta, you gotta mess with both of them.

635
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 5: At the end of the day, they're both really good quarterbacks,

636
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 5: but they both go with the ones they rotate. So

637
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 5: it's like when you're when like like I said, when

638
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 5: your numbers called, you got to make the best of

639
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 5: the opportunity. So he's a new quarterback, so he comes in.

640
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 5: If a play is called to you, it's about making

641
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 5: the play because that'll build confidence with you and him.

642
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 5: If you if you can keep messing up or you're

643
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 5: not not getting open or not catching the ball, then

644
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 5: that's that's his first impression and he's like, I don't

645
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 5: know about this guy, so that kind of hurts you.

646
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 5: So right now is a huge opportunity as well as

647
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 5: the spring, like when your number is called, go out

648
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 5: there if he's in there, and make the plays as

649
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,719
Speaker 5: well as ar because yeah, he's even though we've known

650
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 5: him for a while, we still got to build out

651
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 5: with a mechion. Every year, not every year is the same,

652
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 5: not every week it's the same. So just a couple

653
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 5: of minutes left here, with Josh Downs. You appreciate his

654
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 5: time as close training camp is getting underway.

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Speaker 1: How would you describe an Anthony Richardson thrown ball? How

656
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Speaker 1: would you describe a Daniel Jones.

657
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Speaker 5: Thrown Oh that's I mean, uh, they're both really good,

658
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 5: both really good balls. I mean I just say, like

659
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Speaker 5: Anthony has like one of the strongest arms in the league,

660
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 5: So it's just a little faster. Yeah, that's all.

661
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: You mentioned in your media session that you're kind of

662
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: hoping the playbook opens up a little bit more for you.

663
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: You feel like it will open up a little bit

664
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Speaker 1: more for you. Could you kind of expand on where

665
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: you think your game will grow? I guess the Shane

666
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: Steiken's offense.

667
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Speaker 5: I mean, I just you know, as the years goes on,

668
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 5: the coaches confidence and you gets better and you get

669
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Speaker 5: more confidence in office. So I feel like they just

670
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Speaker 5: give us, like not even just me, like pitt alec ad,

671
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Speaker 5: They'll just give us more freedom and what to do

672
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 5: and allow us to i mean work even more because

673
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 5: we're a rookie day they kind of like try to

674
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 5: tell you what to do, but they don't want you

675
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 5: to do too much. But as as like more vets

676
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 5: in offense, they're like, hey, y'all, can maybe add this

677
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 5: to your route or do this a little more so,

678
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 5: just things like that.

679
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: So I did with this.

680
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Speaker 2: So I know it didn't end well for the Pacers

681
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: with Tyre's Halliburn and the Achilles, but you were pretty

682
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: early on saying they were going to the finals. I

683
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: want to say it might have been like in the

684
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Speaker 2: second round of the playoffs. So what was it like

685
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Speaker 2: for you, as you know, who plays a professional sport

686
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Speaker 2: to be a fan of them and see them going

687
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: that run.

688
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was cool to see how they are. They

689
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 5: really got the city to jump and be alive, and

690
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 5: it kind of like motivated me in a sense like hey,

691
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 5: like if they can do it, like we got to

692
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Speaker 5: do it as well, because I mean everybody was down

693
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 5: them as well. They were saying they was gonna lose

694
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 5: to the Bucks, than the Cavs, then the Knicks, and

695
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 5: it's like they just keep wanting to win, and they

696
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,239
Speaker 5: really they really could have won the last game, Like

697
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 5: when Halliburn got hurt, broke my heart, actually broke my

698
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 5: heart a lot. So I was I was looking forward

699
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 5: to them winning. But yeah, I mean motivation to us

700
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 5: and the team as well to pick up our slack, like, okay,

701
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 5: they made it to the finals, Like, let's let's do

702
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 5: something ourselves so that they can see that we're on

703
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 5: our way as well.

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Speaker 1: So last last one, have you had to show any

705
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Speaker 1: IU fans that punp return from your brother just to

706
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Speaker 1: remind them they are?

707
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 5: They already seen? They already seen that. Pubbers heard enough.

708
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 5: I posted every time I see it and they were

709
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 5: mad that day when I was going for Ohio State.

710
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 5: They was like, Dangna, You're gonna betrayer state. I was like,

711
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Speaker 5: blood people, I'm like blood, I'm like dang I think family,

712
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Speaker 5: Trump's everything else. But I was like, I guess not.

713
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Speaker 5: So No.

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Speaker 1: One thousand percent. Josh Downs year three in the NFL.

715
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Speaker 1: He is with us here live at Grand Park. Josh,

716
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Speaker 1: stay healthy, man, appreciate the time, Yes, sir, thank you.

717
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Speaker 1: Always enjoying the Josh Downs conversations. James Boyd that is

718
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: a very quality quality football player. Over under catches for

719
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Speaker 1: Josh Downs this season? Would we say seventy two last

720
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Speaker 1: year in a fourteen game season.

721
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Speaker 2: So I'll set the over under at seventy seven and

722
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Speaker 2: a half.

723
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit the over and I really think an injury.

724
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: And again we saw it unfortunately out here last year.

725
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: Remember Nick Cross took him to the ground and he

726
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't have and it cost Josh downs. The first was

727
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Speaker 1: the first two games, right last year.

728
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it might have even been the first three, but

729
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: I know he missed the first two because he was

730
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Speaker 2: not available in Green Bay.

731
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Speaker 1: Well he started hing two and I think and not

732
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Speaker 1: having him and those one possession games were huge.

733
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Speaker 2: So yeah, even yesterday he mentioned I hurt my ankle

734
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: in the camp and I was like, no, you didn't

735
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: hurt your.

736
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Speaker 1: Ankle, and say you did nothing wrong.

737
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Speaker 8: Man.

738
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Speaker 1: So enjoyed that conmo. That'll be up on the podcast.

739
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: If you missed any of that's we will play the

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Speaker 1: Chris ballad audio in just a minute. But if you

741
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Speaker 1: James the Keys to the game where it unraveled for

745
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: the Fever last night. Nineteen turnovers. That would be a

746
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: season high, And I know it sounds very elementary, but

747
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: they also just stopped making shots there, and I thought

748
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: they got some bad shots late third, early fourth and

749
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: that thing it didn't snowball, that was an avalanche.

750
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Sabrina Esque woke up as well.

751
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: She had been struggling throughout the entire game, and I

752
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: want to say she might have got a foul on

753
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: or got fouled by Leah Boston, and she just kind

754
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: of woke up the monster there for a few minutes.

755
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: And I thought that, you know, Sad as they call her,

756
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: Sabrina Escue just buried him.

757
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Speaker 1: Chris Ballad yesterday met the media and we want, I

758
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: want to make sure probably eight o'clock hour, we'll get

759
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: to you know, James asked him. I thought a very

760
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: direct question about you know, do you kind of view

761
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: this as a make or break here for Anthony Richardson

762
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Speaker 1: and Chris certainly had a strong opinion on one side

763
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Speaker 1: of that. We'll play that for you coming up the

764
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: eight o'clock hour. And honestly, we do have to get

765
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: to Kurt Signetti because I think right now he's making

766
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: his way through the SEC radio shows after a pissing

767
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: off that large cult, and.

768
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Speaker 3: He's beaving with Kevin Bowen today.

769
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Speaker 1: I guess he wasn't. I did see somebody ask him

770
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Speaker 1: about the bury otom. I did see that as well,

771
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: a little shout out. I don't know if one of

772
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: seven five the fan got to mention for that. But nonetheless,

773
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Speaker 1: Chris Balad was asked yesterday about the current playoff drought,

774
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Speaker 1: and just to remind everybody, it is four years. As

775
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Speaker 1: I said on yesterday's show, there are only three NFL

776
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: teams right now that currently have a longer playoffs trout

777
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Speaker 1: than the Colts. It's the longest as franchise has experienced

778
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Speaker 1: in over thirty years. Here was Chris Ballard's answer to

779
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Speaker 1: that general question yesterday.

780
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 8: Yeah it sucks, man.

781
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: I mean the first time in my career.

782
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Speaker 7: Gone four years without making I mean, no, it's a

783
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 7: it's a bothersome thing, especially with the expectations we have

784
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 7: here in Indie. I mean, that's the one thing with

785
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 7: Jim that always appreciated man like, he don't want to

786
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 7: people want to be average. Wants to be great, and

787
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 7: that's Carly probably not. I mean, look, we you know,

788
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Speaker 7: spent a lot of time together because she's around us

789
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Speaker 7: so much, but chills take. Look, I don't want to

790
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 7: be good. I want to be great, and you know

791
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 7: that's always the goal going in and you know, twenty

792
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 7: two was twenty two to let you know, the twenty

793
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 7: three season, we you know, last.

794
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Speaker 1: Game of the year, we're right there.

795
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Speaker 7: And even last year at the end, you know, we

796
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 7: didn't play as like as good as I thought we

797
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 7: should add, but we were still kind of in the mix.

798
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Speaker 7: And then you go back to twenty one and we're

799
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 7: in the driver's seat and we piss it down our

800
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 7: legs and that's we have got to finish.

801
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Speaker 8: Better like that at the end of the day.

802
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 7: We have to finish the seasons better because we've had

803
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 7: some really good football teams that just haven't got it done.

804
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Speaker 1: James, what do you make of Ballard's overall tone yesterday

805
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: in regards to, you know, those sorts of questions, the

806
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: bigger picture, the resume, get into year nine, those questions.

807
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: He was.

808
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Speaker 2: Typical Ballad when it comes to the defense of his

809
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Speaker 2: resume or lack thereof. And I thought that there were

810
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Speaker 2: times where he sort of will get politiciany and give

811
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: us some sort of round the way answer. And I

812
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Speaker 2: believe one of the questions they'd ask Nate Atkins asked

813
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: him was, you know, about the pressure that he should

814
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: be feeling, and he went answer way left to you know, well,

815
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: real pressure is the person trying to make ends meet,

816
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: and it's not football, it's life. And I get all

817
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: of that, and we all get that, and then I

818
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: guess cop out in yeah, exactly. I certainly appreciate those,

819
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: even our listeners, who are dealing with real life problems

820
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: and certainly don't have the privilege of, you know, worrying

821
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: about winning and losing football games.

822
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 3: But that is not the point when we're out here.

823
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in the NFL bubble, And so that to

824
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: me was sort of a cop out. And what else

825
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: are you going to say, Kevin when you haven't had

826
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Speaker 2: the success? I mean, when he told us in one

827
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Speaker 2: of those answers that we just played this is the

828
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Speaker 2: first time in my career I've you know, been four

829
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 2: straight years off the playoffs, I'm like, yeah, because usually

830
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 2: guys don't last that long to have that happen. So

831
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Speaker 2: I'm not so sure about, you know, the defense of

832
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Speaker 2: his resume.

833
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 3: But if I was in his.

834
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Speaker 2: Shoes, I mean, what else do you say, Well, what

835
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 2: do you kind of come back with?

836
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I guess from an answer standpoint, you know,

837
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Speaker 1: he could have opted for a little bit more falling

838
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Speaker 1: on the sword. You know, that's what we saw back

839
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Speaker 1: in January. And I don't know, maybe just as the

840
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: calendar turns, you know, this is the most optimistic time

841
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: every fan base. I mean literally, you know, two hours

842
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: from now will be maybe where the point of all

843
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: optimism just kind of stops for a second. It's like, Okay, now,

844
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: bleep catrial out here on training camp fields, and you know,

845
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: you have good things that happen, you have bad things

846
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: that happen, Injuries can occur, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah,

847
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Speaker 1: I thought it was general tone yesterday and again, I mean,

848
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: I guess we just hit on it on the Nate

849
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: Akins question. I mean, like you can cop out with

850
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: the real life answer to every single question if you

851
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: would like it too. I don't think that's addressing the

852
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 1: issue at hand. I guess going back to the overall

853
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: state of the union, if you will, I would assume,

854
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: and knowing Carly orse Gordon the little that I do,

855
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: I would think those facts piss her the hell off.

856
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: I would think the fact that you show her thirty

857
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: two NFL teams and right now you are twenty ninth

858
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: on the list of playoff appearances would piss you off.

859
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: I would think the fact that you haven't tasted the

860
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: postseason since twenty twenty and haven't had a home playoff

861
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: game since twenty fourteen would frustrate the hell out of you.

862
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: And I know this might sound like a weird thing

863
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: to say, but I think the fact that those daughters

864
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: are in the age range where two hours from now,

865
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Speaker 1: Colts will be right here in Westfield on this very

866
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Speaker 1: practice field at Grand Park. It is day number one

867
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Speaker 1: of training camp. Again, morning sessions each of the next

868
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: three days late afternoon on Saturday, off day, Sunday, Monday,

869
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Speaker 1: and Tuesday morning practices. Well play with Chris Ballard audio

870
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Speaker 1: if he feels like this is a make or break

871
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: year for Anthony Richardson upcoming in a few James. For

872
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,959
Speaker 1: those that missed the Ballad presser yesterday, from a news standpoint,

873
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: when you hear there will be volume restrictions on Anthony Richardson,

874
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: what does that mean to you?

875
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: I do want apologize really quickly for those who might

876
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: have been listening. We dropped out glad to be back

877
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: with you, but for me, Kevin, when I hear volume restrictions,

878
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, does that mean that you're not splitting

879
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 2: reps early on? And how could that factor into the

880
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: quarterback competition? So that is where I start and then

881
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: where I finishes. How long will these volume restrictions last?

882
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: You know, is this something where we're talking one day

883
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: today or are we going into Saturday and he's still

884
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: splitting reps. So not splitting reps, but he's still not

885
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 2: getting what we would think is a good workload for

886
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: someone who is trying to obviously win the starting job.

887
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oftentimes when you hear individual workload will be scaled back,

888
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: and this goes for any player. Usually that happens in

889
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: the team drills. That's when they scale back that stuff.

890
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: Like Sampson epicom for example, coming back from a torn achilles.

891
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: He falls in that same boat as Richardson. Well, you know,

892
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: maybe today we only see evacom do like individual drills?

893
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: Is that going to be Richardson? We just see individual

894
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: drills and then we don't see eleven on eleven like

895
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: that would be the question I would have. Then again,

896
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, as you brought up, when does that fifty

897
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: to fifty split occur. That would be kind of the

898
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: top of mind stuff from him. By the way, I

899
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: did want to share, you know yesterday No when viral

900
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 1: shout out to listener Alex he was able to sync

901
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: up the young Jock song along with our dance moves

902
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: and James, you seem to be rather complimentary of my

903
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: effort yesterday.

904
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I do want to follow up here.

905
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: Were you just being supportive and a good friend or was.

906
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: That anuine that was genuine? That was genuine? What did

907
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: Maddie think? I think he was that you knew what

908
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: that was? He's like, wow, looking at No, I feel

909
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: like me and Kevin are still somewhat in the same

910
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: age rang.

911
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 8: So I.

912
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: Come on, Mark chiming in from the cheap scenes here.

913
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: This is like Chap saying that you know, I wasn't

914
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: alive from when he started covering.

915
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 3: The team, and I'm like, well, Kevin wasn't either.

916
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: Schaff thinks we got to get another hair transplant. Basically

917
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: freaking fifty eight years old.

918
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 8: Here.

919
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: Maddie's text was this, you look like you're starting the lawnmower.

920
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: Is that the goal? Should I take that? Well?

921
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know, Yes, I mean, I don't

922
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: know if you start lawnmowers from up here, but yeah, somebody.

923
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: Said I needed to get a little higher, so maybe

924
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: I should get a little I don't know. And now

925
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: she chimed in and very of course ego centric here

926
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: she goes, I remember it. I'm really good at it,

927
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: you know. I asked her if she remembered, you know,

928
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: back in college. That was of course, you know, a

929
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 1: big go to move. But then she added, she goes,

930
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: my evaluation is you look like you're starting the lawnmower.

931
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: And James's giggle is so cute.

932
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 2: I didn't expect you to, you know, hit the wave

933
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: with me. I will say that, but we were in sync.

934
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 1: So I'm starting the lawnmower and James's laugh is cute.

935
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: That's where I'm at right now here on this Wednesday morning.

936
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: Sounds like a win to me.

937
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is a win for James. James getting compliments

938
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 4: star of the lawnmower, I am loved.

939
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: After we signed off yesterday, again, thank you Josh Downs

940
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: for joining us. That'll be up on the podcast Kenny

941
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: Moore the second yesterday, and then we headed over a

942
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: couple hundred yards south of here, for the Chris Ballard

943
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: annual pre training camp press conferences, we had to lead

944
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: off the show James. From a health standpoint, the cults

945
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: are in, it seems like pretty good health. Sama Franklin

946
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: is one that is not expected to participate, but his

947
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: absence isn't likely to be too too long. But in

948
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: regards to Richardson, I thought you asked a very direct

949
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: and a very fair question. If you don't mind before

950
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: we play the Ballard clip, just your overall thought in

951
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: the question and setting up the answer.

952
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: Mainly because Chris Ballard has repeatedly stated that this is

953
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: not our make or break season. For Anthony Richardson, I

954
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: wanted to follow up just to make sure his mind

955
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 2: hadn't changed, And since it hasn't, I was just wondering, well,

956
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: why does it feel like? And again I'm not inside

957
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: the building. Outside the building, we're all saying why is

958
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: it not a make or break season? Considering the lack

959
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: of success, the lack of continuity, the lack of an

960
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 2: answer for him at quarterback? And then Ballor got into

961
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: his explanation and he referenced a couple other quarterbacks. So Mark,

962
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: if you have that cueued up for us, We can

963
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 2: definitely hear what Balor had to say and react to

964
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: that because I thought it was interesting and you can

965
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: hear me probably interject and if you can't hear it,

966
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: I'll follow up with it after this clip.

967
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 7: Do you think people regret Baker Mayfield's timeline, Sam Darnold's timeline?

968
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 3: Let's just go.

969
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 7: Exactly, and so how about a little Sometimes you gotta

970
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 7: have a little patience with a guy and let them

971
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 7: grow through things. Now, there's got to be like, if

972
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 7: you just know this guy, no he can't do it.

973
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: But if you think.

974
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 7: Hey, he's on the right trajectory, why are you gonna

975
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 7: Why are you gonna flush him just because people outside

976
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 7: think you should plush him.

977
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 8: I don't.

978
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that.

979
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 7: I think we need to give Anthony every chance to

980
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 7: be the best he can be, and I think I

981
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 7: think he can be really good, you know, but things

982
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 7: got to come together.

983
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: James, if you don't mind, could you share for those

984
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: that maybe didn't hear, just you know, when you did

985
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: interject there a little bit early in that answer.

986
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So his response to why this isn't a make

987
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: or break season for Anthony was, well, do you think

988
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: people regret kind of basically dismissing Sam Darnold's timeline or

989
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: dismissing the fact that Baker Mayfield was talented or could

990
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: bounce back. And I interjected and said, well, wait a second.

991
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: Those two guys changed teams, and often when we see

992
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: quarterbacks revive their careers, they do have a change of scenery.

993
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: And then he kind of just did not really acknowledge that.

994
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, Kevin, correct me if I'm wrong.

995
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: He kind of just theme rolled right through it and said, well,

996
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: you got to give a patience, You gotta give it time.

997
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: But it kind of sounds like he was talking on

998
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: both sides of his mouth, because yes, you want to

999
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: give it time, Yes, you want to be patient. However,

1000
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 2: decisions have to be made about his future at some point,

1001
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: and you all made the decision to kind of open

1002
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: another layer to this by bringing in Daniel Jones. So

1003
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: which one is it? Do you believe in Anthony Richardson

1004
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: to be the guy or do you not? Which if

1005
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: you don't, that's fair because you want to go out

1006
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: and get somebody that could be competing.

1007
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 3: At the position.

1008
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was a totally accurate and I

1009
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: would agree with you on the change of scenery being

1010
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: vital in those guys careers. I've argued this, do we have.

1011
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: One like in recent memory, do we have a quarterback

1012
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 2: that was benched and injured and was a high draft

1013
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 2: pick and he came back with the same team and

1014
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: was good. I'm just trying to think of it, and

1015
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that it's not possible, right, but what

1016
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: does history tell us?

1017
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: And I choose to think of one at least in

1018
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: the last twenty years. Yeah, I mean I remember looking

1019
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: this up a little bit, you know, back kind of

1020
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: the spring, when you know, Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson

1021
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: became a real thing, and I kind of came to

1022
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: the conclusion that if either of them hit, it'll be

1023
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: rather unprecedented. Now, Daniel Jones to understand some people that

1024
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: would say, no, he actually has more starts than Baker

1025
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: or Donald or Gino Smith did in.

1026
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 3: Their sixty nine starts in New York.

1027
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there Park knows that's that respective careers. Now,

1028
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: I have said this quite often. We live in two

1029
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: different quarterback worlds right now. The A havec in the

1030
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: NFC are two different worlds. So where did Baker go

1031
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: to resurrect his career the NFC. Where did Sam Donald

1032
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: go to resurrect his career the NFC? Yeah, that is

1033
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: the world where you can do it. I don't think

1034
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: I can talk about that good point in the AFC.

1035
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: And I guess in regards to Richardson more specifically, I

1036
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: guess there's no way for this to sound like anything

1037
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: but a shot at him, but it is reality. Unlike

1038
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield winning the Heisman Trophy in college, I was

1039
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: just going to get to that point, Unlike Sam Donald

1040
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: throwing for four thousand yards in the PAC twelve when

1041
00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:00,479
Speaker 1: it was real at USC. Anthony richards has never been good,

1042
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: right that Like that's real. He wasn't good at Florida

1043
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: that Anthony Rison thought. It's been built on hope and

1044
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: potential and physical and potential, yes, and development all of that.

1045
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 1: So that's where I don't think it falls into apples

1046
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: and apples. And we go back to the age old

1047
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: question that we've had with Richardson in regards to the

1048
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: day he was drafted, and you and I were in

1049
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: that press room that Thursday night and the question was asked,

1050
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: and it was asked, I think of Shane Sike and

1051
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: even before Anthony Jerson was drafted, can you teach accuracy?

1052
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1053
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: And how much can you improve accuracy? And those questions

1054
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: now as we sit here, what two years and three

1055
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: months after he was drafted, are still there? Can you

1056
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: teach accuracy? Can you improve accuracy? And is Anthony Richardson good?

1057
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 1: Like we see flashes but the general thought and Baker

1058
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: Mayfield was very good in college. Sam Darnold was a

1059
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: pretty good college football quarterback. You would not classify Anthony

1060
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: Richardson's time at Florida in that mold. So yeah, I

1061
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: don't think I get that. You know, Ballad is largely

1062
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 1: just trying to support his guy, But I don't think

1063
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: that's apples tables, No.

1064
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: And it is tough for that reality to sort of

1065
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: be accepted because Anthony is the highest drafted player this

1066
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: franchise has had since Andrew Luck, and you want so

1067
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: desperately to find that answer and that consistency at quarterback

1068
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: since Andrew Luck. But he hasn't been that guy. And

1069
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: that's why we're having this conversation again about who's going

1070
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: to start, Because unlike his counterpart down in Houston, I

1071
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: would even argue in Carolina with Bryce Young and obviously

1072
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: in Houston it's c J.

1073
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 3: Stroud.

1074
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 2: Those two guys, there's no question about them being the

1075
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: guy going into your three. But for you, that answer

1076
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: is still very much op.

1077
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 1: I think we also have this in regards to Ballard

1078
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: right now, James. The answers are really difficult. Yeah, and

1079
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: let's go back to the combine. I believe that was

1080
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: your first show with us. Yes, when we had Ballard

1081
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: on at the comp and when you hear him answer

1082
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: the question of why do you feel like you're getting

1083
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: the ninth year? What do you feel like it's the

1084
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: greatest achievement on your resume, the answers are met with

1085
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: really but that's the hardcore evidence. He can't go off

1086
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: of anything else.

1087
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: So it was the question I had, I believe me

1088
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: or someone else. We all were kind of just taking

1089
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: I think fair aim at him, but I believe it

1090
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 2: was something along the lines of did you earn a

1091
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: ninth season or were you given a ninth season? This

1092
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: was the end of last season, I believe, end of

1093
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 2: your press conference, and he kind of looked at the

1094
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: kind of you know, took it personal, which I probably

1095
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 2: would in the same situation. But that's a fair question.

1096
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 2: Did you earn it? I'm not so sure that you did,

1097
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 2: considering your resume.

1098
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: You know, there was a there was a follow up

1099
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: there you later asked about, Okay, the trajectory, Yeah, because

1100
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: he kept saying he's on a positive trajectory, and I

1101
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: thought it was important that you did eventually get there.

1102
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: I know, I think I was one of the people

1103
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: that interrupted afterwards and and kind of reugated on that.

1104
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: But you did niceab coming back to that, and you know,

1105
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: he pointed to which, again, this is something I totally

1106
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: agree with Richardson. His best moments, you could arguably say

1107
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: have been in the game's most clutch moments. Yes, so

1108
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: late in the Jets game, late in the Patriots game.

1109
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: You know, Chris brought up the Rams come back a

1110
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: couple of years ago his rookie season. You know, he

1111
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 1: has been very good at times in the two minute

1112
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: third down when you have got to have it. So

1113
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: I do hear him on that. I would probably just

1114
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: generally go here in guards to Richard, like, should Richardson

1115
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: be getting a third year? I don't know if that's

1116
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: maybe the question that we're at, But if you're going

1117
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: to commit to drafting a project fourth overall, I probably

1118
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: think you should at least say, we need to wait

1119
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: for the first healthy NFL offseason, don't we like? Don't

1120
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: like if you're gonna make that choice. I do, even though, Okay,

1121
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: where has he earned it? You know, where has he

1122
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: earned it from a you know again, has he ever

1123
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: been a good quarterback? You know that answer is largely no.

1124
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna make that investment as a franchise

1125
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: and the alternatives are the alternatives, yeah, I think you

1126
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: at least owe it to your franchise, your coaching staff

1127
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: to say, and maybe even the player to say, you

1128
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: know what, let's give him this healthy offseason, I E.

1129
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: Right now, right, and let's see what happens. That's kind

1130
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: of where I'm at in regards to how should twenty

1131
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 1: twenty five play out? You know, should it be Richards

1132
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: and should it be you know that that whole debate.

1133
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: You know what, if you're gonna draft the dude fourth overall,

1134
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: if you're gonna invest how you've invested into him? And

1135
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: Shane Stikeen was the head coach when you drafted him,

1136
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, Will Levis with Brian Callahan

1137
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: or Canalis with Bryce Young. No, this is the same

1138
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: coaching staff. Give him this season, healthy off season, and

1139
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: see what the hell happens.

1140
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 2: And it's kind of like they're trying to reverse engineer it, like,

1141
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: wait a second, we played them too early. Maybe we

1142
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: shouldn't have, So let's try to back up a little bit,

1143
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: and if he isn't quite ready, we're not going to

1144
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: give up on him. But that clock is still ticking

1145
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 2: as far as his contracting years in the NFL. So

1146
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 2: even hearing how young he still is, that doesn't necessarily

1147
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: matter when it comes to making your choice on his

1148
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: future with your team, because time doesn't stop because you're young.

1149
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,479
Speaker 2: The contract year is the fourth year option. I'm sorry,

1150
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: the fifth year option is still coming up after this season.

1151
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: To pick up or not pick up, you have to determine,

1152
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 2: you know, do we want to try to extend this

1153
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: guy or not. Those things are conversations you have to have,

1154
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 2: and you definitely want clearer answers after year three.

1155
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 3: And I even go back to his what was a.

1156
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 2: Combine interview and the viral moment where everyone was laughing

1157
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 2: at me because I just got dunked on by Anthony

1158
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 2: by asking him directly, Hey, a lot of people think

1159
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: you're a project quarterback. Totally fine, what can you give

1160
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 2: a team right now versus in the future? And he

1161
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: told me I don't even know what that means. And

1162
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: then someone else followed up and said, hey, well you

1163
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 2: only play thirteen games s O thirteen games at Florida.

1164
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 2: What if teams told you about your inexperience? And he

1165
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 2: came back to me and said, well, this guy thinks I'm,

1166
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: you know, a project, and I'm like, wait a second,

1167
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: you are, and now we're seeing that, and it's not

1168
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: to you know, Rubend's face. I don't really care you

1169
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 2: the way. Obviously, I would love to see all players

1170
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 2: succeed and have success. However, the reality is that you

1171
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: were a project coming in and we're seeing the same

1172
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: sort of things.

1173
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 3: Two three years later.

1174
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 1: Well chout Stephen Hoolder coming up at nine o'clock again,

1175
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: Josh Downs earlier, Kennymore the second Yesterday, life beginning to

1176
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: happen here at Grand Park. They're setting up the practice

1177
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: field right now. Colt City behind us gets underway at

1178
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: nine o'clock. I believe gates open at nine o'clock again,

1179
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: first practice coming up at ten. Still want to get

1180
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: to that Kurt Signetti audio In true Sig fashion, that

1181
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: man was ready to go oh yeah six, heard you

1182
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: talking Kevin before that question was asked. There is a

1183
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: question and that you know, maybe we can tease of,

1184
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: like do you owe it to your fan base to

1185
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: provide a marquee September game? That is something to think

1186
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: about it or is it simply like no, no, no, I

1187
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 1: don't care if it's kennessall State.

1188
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 3: Just I was gonna say, is it Marquis as long

1189
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 3: as we win? That's probably the question.

1190
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1191
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: I mean I can hear both sides of it, but

1192
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 1: you know, certainly September appointment viewing inside of Memorial Stadium

1193
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: is not there with the schedule and a little bit

1194
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: later we'll get to that Patris audi Aga and Tyre's

1195
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: Halliburn comedy for the first time on Myles Turner, I

1196
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: thought the TJ McConnell players should be in piece. Yesterday

1197
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: two was very very strong from TJ McConnell. Had me

1198
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: laughing a bit and at times tad emotional, which sounds

1199
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: like Josh Downs was emotional watching Game seven. Did you

1200
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: share that with us earlier?

1201
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: Yes, and I thought it was really cool to hear

1202
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: his perspective on and like I said, Josh Downs was

1203
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 2: calling it pretty early among his teammates here on the Colts,

1204
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: and so it was cool to see him have that

1205
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: fan moment and kind of give us his reaction to

1206
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 2: the run and also saying that hopefully it has Galvin

1207
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 2: I it's his team to go on a run. I

1208
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: thought it was crazy that quitny pay was saying we're

1209
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 2: gonna go in the playoff running at with Wait a second, brother,

1210
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: you gotta figure Ou'm starting that quarterback. But nevertheless, you know,

1211
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: a lot of those guys do feel like they owe

1212
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 2: it to the fan base, and they should feel like

1213
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 2: they owe it to the fan base to go out

1214
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: there and have a successful season, which in my mind

1215
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: means playoffs are bust.

1216
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: One thing I'm super curious about you heard in the

1217
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: ballad answer We played last segment with struggles to end seasons,

1218
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: and hell, you can go both ways. They've struggled in

1219
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: Week one, we know that it's whatever eleventh straight no

1220
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: wins to start the season.

1221
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: And then I have a stat for you on that too,

1222
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: by the way, that can oh kind of validate some.

1223
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 1: Things for you tease or it looked like to share

1224
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I'll just get into it after the break,

1225
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: all right, let it sit there. And then obviously the

1226
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: collapses to end seasons, which we've seen quite often, the

1227
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: losses to quarterbacks that are Taylor Heineke, Jake Browning, Drew Locke,

1228
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: except I know I'm missing somebody, but et cetera, et cetera.

1229
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: So the question becomes, Okay, how do you Is there

1230
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: anything you've looked into as a staff out here at

1231
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: training camp to try and counter that, right, and Ballard

1232
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: is pretty adamant late in the press yesterday that this

1233
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: will be a more physical training camp than we are

1234
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: used to seeing, in that him and chains second have

1235
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: had long conversations. Now, I think creating an uber physical,

1236
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: atmospheric training camp is difficult in today's NFL world, right

1237
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: there are restrictions from a CBA standpoint, just from how

1238
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: many full pad of practices you can have, how long

1239
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: you can be out there those sorts of things. Now,

1240
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: tackling is always kind of a buzzword. I don't know

1241
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: if people realize, but tackling is very minimal in NFL

1242
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: training camps. And I would say this training camp in particular.

1243
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: But Ballard kind of doubled down on that on a

1244
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: couple of different occasions. And I don't know if he

1245
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: pointed to, like anything super specific within the practices we'll see,

1246
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: but he just kind of said, you'll notice it, you'll

1247
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: notice it. Yeah, you know anything that you are I

1248
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: don't know keeping an eye on or is this just

1249
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: one of those things where it's the age old. I

1250
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: don't know how to define it, but I know when

1251
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: I see it.

1252
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 2: I took that is, if you're not a star, you

1253
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 2: might be getting thumped a little harder. For example, if

1254
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: you're DJ Giddens, you come through the whole, you might.

1255
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: The stars be thumping if those are the ones playing.

1256
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, could you imagine someone hits Jonathan Taylor's.

1257
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: It's a fine line. And I don't know if I'm ness.

1258
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: Michael Pittman Jr. Who wants to fight everybody anyway?

1259
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 6: Right?

1260
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: Still right? But like, okay, you were how many times

1261
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: did Ballot say yesterday we got to be a better

1262
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: tackling team at least twice when I was going back

1263
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: through the transcript. No, I don't know if I need

1264
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: to see undrafted free agent out of Villanova tackling undrafted

1265
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: free agent out of Mississippi running back because week one,

1266
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: when you're trying to tackles out in space or Tyreek

1267
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: kill in space, those guys aren't being asked to tackle.

1268
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,439
Speaker 1: So again, I think it's a let me be clear,

1269
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 1: I think it's a difficult question in the twenty twenty

1270
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: five world that we live in with the NFL and

1271
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: the restrictions on it. But Baalot was pretty adamant that

1272
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: that is something they have discussed. I have looked into

1273
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: and it will be different. So I must say again

1274
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting it today. I mean, hell, you can't

1275
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 1: wear full pads to win Saturday Monday, right, I forget

1276
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: the exact rules on that, But when we get there,

1277
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: what will the physicality be and how will it look different?

1278
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: It's a very good question.

1279
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 2: And I also think that again, if you're coming from

1280
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 2: the Zaire Franklin school of thought, you could be hearing

1281
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 2: some thumps throughout camp and kind of setting the tone there.

1282
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: But they have to be better at starting and finishing

1283
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: seasons because you're always playing uphill, and when you're always

1284
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 2: playing uphill or trying to chase a spot, Obviously that

1285
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: margin for error strengths a ton, So you want to

1286
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: go out there and try to do something different, Kevin,

1287
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 2: which means when you're a season opener for the first

1288
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: time in twenty thirteen, or were you in twenty thirteen.

1289
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: Twenty thirteen, I was twenty three years old living in

1290
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: broad Ribble Browse Avenue right behind Shtard High School. That

1291
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: place was a dump, but man, I loved it. Gosh,

1292
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: we had some great parties.

1293
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: I was a junior in high school in twenty thirteen,

1294
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: so I Will still had hoop dreams back then. Then

1295
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: I'll stopped growing in the same size as my junior

1296
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 2: of high school, and I figured out very quickly. You

1297
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: should probably remember where the comments of the periods go,

1298
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 2: because if you're going to go to the NFL the NBA,

1299
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: it will not be as an athlete.

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00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: Boy, my dreams were nightmares. The nightmare was hoping that

1301
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: the Kasma roof wouldn't cave in on me when I'd

1302
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: go downstairs. I think it recently closed. Rip to Kasma,

1303
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: Mark Dacton, let's go and check it out. Ten am

1304
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: to eleven am, James Boyd. That is the practice time

1305
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: for the Colts. Today again it is a free practice.

1306
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: You can get those tickets online Colts dot com, slash Camp,

1307
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: guys on the sideline, Zira, Franklin, scaled Back, Sampson, Ebacom

1308
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: and then we'll see about the volume for Anthony Richardson.

1309
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: But as of right now, no one is technically on

1310
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: the physically unable to perform lists for the Colts, which

1311
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: is very very rare. I mean the rest of the league.

1312
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: I would argue, or probably put good money down that

1313
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: every player where we've seen in the league has at

1314
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: least one player who's unavailable to start camp or on

1315
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: that pup list. But considering they aren't, that is a

1316
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 2: good sign for the Colts.

1317
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: I've dropped my phone twice today. James Boyd has had

1318
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: to pick it up twice today, So thank you very

1319
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: much for that.

1320
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 3: I apologize for I know, man, is that an omen is?

1321
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 2: Is there gonna be a lot of turnovers and recovering

1322
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 2: this year or something like that, or you gotta, you know,

1323
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: be strong with the ball man.

1324
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: Sticky hands right here, non existent for me all right.

1325
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: Last night in the Big Apple, it was a New

1326
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: York Liberty pulling away from the fever and really impressive

1327
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: fashion in the third quarter. Start the fourth quarter, boy,

1328
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: I thought the Fever about ready to do it again

1329
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: without Caitlyn Clark have one of these marquee wins. James

1330
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: Air up seven late third and if you blinked, that

1331
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: thing was over.

1332
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 3: Yeah it was.

1333
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 2: It was rough, and I thought that you saw that

1334
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: championship metal from the Liberty, but also you just saw

1335
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 2: what the Fever are not capable of without Caitlin Clark.

1336
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 2: You needed that one more scoring punch because a lot

1337
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 2: of those buckets that Kelsey Mitchell made or had throughout

1338
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 2: that game, Kevin, they were tough buckets, and I was

1339
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 2: thinking to myself, Man, how many times can you continue

1340
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 2: to make these really tough shots versus where the Liberty

1341
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 2: were running really good offense and obviously have a lot

1342
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: of star players. They got better looks, finished better, and

1343
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: obviously they're one of the best teams in the league

1344
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 2: for a reason.

1345
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: Now, I must say my brother in law has a

1346
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: massive amount of interest right now in the New York Liberty.

1347
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: He has got a title parlay that includes sounds like

1348
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: a Mark Dyton parlay. He has the Eagles winning at all.

1349
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: I believe in this parlay that happened. He had the

1350
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: Thunder winning at all that happened, He had the Florida

1351
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: Panthers winning, and all that happened, and the last leg

1352
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: of the parlay is the Liberty.

1353
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 2: Well, he must have been feeling good because, like I said,

1354
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 2: they were already the best team in the league. And

1355
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 2: I heard a stat last time that they're undefeated with

1356
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 2: their starting five healthy.

1357
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 3: And in the lineup.

1358
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: And they added and Mamisa Man who's been a great

1359
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 2: player over in Europe, and she was a former finals

1360
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 2: of v people to Shago Sky I believe actually in

1361
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. So you put all that together and you

1362
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 2: have a good chance of going back to back.

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Speaker 4: Can you discuss the uh, you know, how much you

1364
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 4: put down on what the payout is and if he's

1365
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 4: gotten a cash offer.

1366
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: There we go.

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01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 3: Mark, Yeah, that bearon the leaf.

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01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: I think it's significant. Ross. If you're listening, you know

1369
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: where to find me. I mean again, he's a degenerate,

1370
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: but he's my degenerate. I mean, I am, I am

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01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: all in. I don't know.

1372
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 3: I think you might be calling him a genius if.

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01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: He hits the hell, my goodness, genius degenerate just because

1374
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: degenerate does not just have to be a negative turn

1375
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: fair enough. I like this, but Mark, I mean I

1376
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: think it's it's rather not I mean a four team

1377
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: preseason title parlay, right. I mean I think it might

1378
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: have been in season for the Eagles or something. But

1379
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: still that's got to be I don't Mark, would you

1380
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: think there's a comment in there?

1381
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm curious where the cash out is.

1382
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 4: There's got to be an offer on the table for

1383
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 4: him to cash this thing out. Is he tempted it

1384
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 4: all or is it not? Really he's letting it ride

1385
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 4: at this I don't know.

1386
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: He's got a kitchen renovation he's gotta pay for, so

1387
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna let it ride here

1388
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: all right. Other items from last night Shout out to

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Speaker 1: the falehearted TVT team. It's been fun getting to know

1390
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: that story. A lot of local kids, a lot of

1391
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: U Indy flavor to it. Darius Adams, that was a

1392
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: hell of a shot he hit to send them to

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01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: the Elite Ate. So they win the Butler Regional. They

1394
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: are alive for that million dollar grand prize they will

1395
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: play in which it's all coming up on Sunday, last

1396
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: night they defeated the defending champs. Carmen's crew is supposed

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01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: to be an Ohio state team, not a super Ohio

1398
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: State flavor on it, but that was fun to watch there.

1399
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: We mentioned this earlier. Julian Blackman cult starting safety from

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01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: the past couple of seasons he joined the Saints. Tyron

1401
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: Matthew announced his retirement yesterday.

1402
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 3: Is he a Hall of Famer?

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01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: Ummm no, no, right, I don't think so, but I

1404
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: was just curious about it.

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01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 3: He has a very good career though.

1406
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: He's in the Hall of Entertainment. I've always absolutely, but

1407
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: we have to have a wing for entertainment.

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01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 3: He's in there.

1409
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: The honey bat one in a couple Oh, I want

1410
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: to College Schober a couple of weeks ago. Again, we

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01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: need a Hall of Fame for entertaining athletes. Yes, and

1412
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,919
Speaker 1: I'd say Honey Badger, especially as LSU days, I would

1413
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: definitely put him in that boat.

1414
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 4: Jimmy Graham Jimmy Graham retired too. What is his status?

1415
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 5: Do you think?

1416
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 3: Good player?

1417
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would have to show me some of the stats.

1418
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,919
Speaker 2: He's not up there, I will say, though I saw

1419
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, but He had

1420
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: like this ESPN special segment talking about his childhood and

1421
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: how rough it was growing up. His parents actually gave

1422
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 2: him away and kind of gave up on him, and

1423
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 2: he was talking about having an adopted mother and just

1424
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 2: how he beat all these odds and so if you

1425
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 2: are going to go to the Hall of Something, I

1426
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 2: think he's, you know, basically the Hall of I beat

1427
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 2: the odds and so incredible story for him. And Yeah,

1428
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 2: as long as you announce your retirement within the Tomly fashion,

1429
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 2: I'm okay.

1430
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: You want to go.

1431
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 4: You want to get inducted in the Hall of something.

1432
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 4: The Hall of Something sounds like something I could. I

1433
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 4: could get into a hall of a class of that.

1434
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: I think he'll be in the Hall of vibes. Mark, Yeah,

1435
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: you're in a good vibes. We have some clarification on

1436
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: the parlay. Thank you to Ross Lubberts here for reaching out.

1437
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: It was not the Eagles winning the Super Bowls Alex

1438
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: Pulow winning the five hundred. Okay, this is a twenty

1439
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: dollars twenty dollars bet to win eleven hundred. Ooh wait,

1440
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: currently no cash out right now. His direct quote pissing

1441
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: me off. So he sounds like a man that's ready

1442
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: to cash out. I might say that's soft. I watched

1443
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: The Liberty, now you gotta roll with that. The Liberty

1444
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: are by far the favorite. I say, you got to

1445
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: ride the Liberty right? What about the links.

1446
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 3: They're good, They're not Liberty good though.

1447
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: I about that cash out.

1448
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 4: That cash out probably comes closer to playoff time, and

1449
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 4: then then they'll give him the option of you want

1450
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 4: to ride this out before the playoffs, or you want to,

1451
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 4: you know, get your money.

1452
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: Boy, the beauties of being a degenerate. On the other side,

1453
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: speaking of the land of degenerates, that would be Las Vegas,

1454
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti was ready to go, per usual, No surprise there.

1455
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: We'll play that audio upcoming live from training camp, Kevin

1456
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: Bell and James back in studio, Great Mark Dyke. Fans

1457
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: starting to line up here at Grand Park ten am.

1458
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 1: That is when things will get underway officially nine am.

1459
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: Gates open, hour long practice, and we will be keeping

1460
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: you posted all certainly day long and tomorrow morning we'll

1461
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: be back up here. I believe Jake will be here

1462
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: today noon to three, so he'll have some coverage for you.

1463
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: Live in Westfield. Yesterday Kurt Signetti took to the podium

1464
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: out in Vegas. It took a while for the question

1465
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: to be asked about the buyout of the Virginia series.

1466
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: But you know one thing about Kurt Signetty, that man

1467
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: has not come unprepared whatsoever. Sig in front of a mic,

1468
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: go ahead and Mark.

1469
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 9: Dykton Bence McLoughlin locked on podcast network. Coach, you guys

1470
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 9: recently announced that you canceled a future home and home

1471
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 9: series with Virginia. Can you talk about what went into

1472
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 9: that decision and why you think that's in the best

1473
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 9: interest for your program and the fans.

1474
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, that was a scheduling philosophy that began

1475
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 10: before I was hired, but I did sign off on

1476
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 10: it upon being hired before our first season. Okay, and

1477
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 10: look here's the bottom line. Okay, we picked up an

1478
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 10: extra home game and we play nine conference games. You know,

1479
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 10: the two best conferences in college football. Any football guy

1480
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 10: that's objective will tell you is a big ten in

1481
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 10: the SEC.

1482
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 5: All right.

1483
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 10: Twelve of the sixteen SEC teams play three G five

1484
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 10: or an SCS game. Twelve of those teams play thirty

1485
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 10: six games, twenty nine G five games and seven SCS games.

1486
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 3: And one less conference game.

1487
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 10: All right, so we figured we'd just adopt SEC scheduling philosophy.

1488
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 10: You know, some people don't like it. I'm more focused

1489
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 10: on those nine conference games.

1490
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: You know.

1491
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 10: Not only do we want to play nine conference games, okay,

1492
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 10: and have the four to four championship the playoff format, okay,

1493
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 10: we want to have playing games to decide who plays

1494
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 10: in those playoffs Championship weekend, Let's play three verse six

1495
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 10: and four verse five. You want to decide that on

1496
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 10: the field and make sure everybody's strength the schedules what

1497
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 10: it needs to be. Let's make everybody play nine conference games,

1498
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 10: and on championship weekend three will play six to four

1499
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 10: play five. And there's still room for another at large

1500
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 10: in that format. And why shouldn't the Big ten have

1501
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 10: four aqs? Because the highest state actually finished fourth in

1502
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 10: the conference. At the end of the season, Indiana and

1503
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 10: Penn State were tied for second. They won the tiebreaker

1504
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 10: the high state won national championship. Okay, you're going to

1505
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 10: put the best teams in the playoff, give the best

1506
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 10: legs the aqs, but make them earn it with playing games.

1507
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 10: And we wouldn't be opposed to big ten SEC regular

1508
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 10: season games every year. We need to standardize as a

1509
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 10: schedule across the board if we want to have objective

1510
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 10: criteria for who should be in the playoffs and who shouldn't,

1511
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 10: and we need to take the decision making off the

1512
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:16,919
Speaker 10: committee to some degree.

1513
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,839
Speaker 3: Your reaction there, Kevin Bowen, did you sit there in silence?

1514
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: I watched the full Kurtson goun Any press conference yesterday,

1515
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: and the first thing that I was struck by was

1516
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: can you imagine going on a date with that man?

1517
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: Why did your mind go there? He starts off the

1518
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: press conference by saying how they're one hundred and twenty

1519
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: six years of Indiana football and they just had the

1520
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: number one season in the history of the football program.

1521
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 1: He then followed that up by saying, and I couldn't

1522
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: really follow the stat but he said something effective. They're

1523
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,919
Speaker 1: the first coaching staff in the history of college football

1524
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: to start ten to zero and back to back seasons

1525
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: at two different schools. Like before the water's poured at

1526
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: the opening. At the first date, he'd already tell you

1527
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: about how much money makes well. You need to know

1528
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 1: you in the presidence of greatness. He's the comedian of

1529
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: his group. And this is what happens behind a closed

1530
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: door when Kurtzignetti's there, if you're lucky to be there.

1531
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 2: So he wants uniform scheduling, which means you should get

1532
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 2: in the conference.

1533
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 3: He is a Notre Dame fan.

1534
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: He is the gift that keeps on giving. He is

1535
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: just he is one of a kind. God bless him.

1536
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 5: Boy.

1537
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 1: There's so much there, you know, in all seriousness, the

1538
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: standardized scheduling. I mean, let's be honest, we can't even

1539
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: anything with college football. You think we're going to agree

1540
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: on that cross conferences.

1541
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 2: I think part of wat college football iss love so

1542
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 2: much is because we argue so much.

1543
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 3: We would lose some of that. I'm serious, I'm so

1544
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 3: serious about.

1545
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,839
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to beate, you know, the SEC

1546
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,839
Speaker 1: angle to it. I get what he's saying, eight conference

1547
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: games versus nine. Now what There's this graphic going around

1548
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: virally right now social media that shows the secs. It

1549
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: only shows three of their non conference games for these opponents.

1550
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: The SEC teams right now, in the non conference this year,

1551
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 1: there are teams that will play Notre Dame. Two SEC

1552
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 1: teams play Notre Dame. They will play Ohio State, they

1553
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: will play Miami, they will play Clemson, they will play Michigan.

1554
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: You talk about the best non SEC teams in college football,

1555
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: They're playing all of them, yep, in the non conference.

1556
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 1: So I would push back a little bit on the

1557
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: we are adopting the SEC non conference scheduling. Yes, SEC

1558
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: programs do schedule some soft opponents. They also almost universally

1559
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: have a major power team on their schedule, which Indiana

1560
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 1: does not have in the non conference. Now, some would say, well,

1561
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: we have nine conference games. Well do you think Purdue

1562
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: or Northwestern really is going to count as your big

1563
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: oal you know, extra conference game.

1564
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 2: Hey, I can only play the conference. I'm in Kevin.

1565
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 2: I can't be held accountable for what other teams are doing.

1566
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 1: And I brought this up yesterday. Why are the other

1567
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: seventeen teams in the Big Ten scheduling a power four

1568
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 1: team but Indiana's not.

1569
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 3: That's a good question and maybe you should have been

1570
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 3: there to ask him that.

1571
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 1: Okay, And I guess the other thing I would add

1572
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: too is the question was started off by buying out

1573
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: the Virginia series, right, Yeah. Reportedly that was a five

1574
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars buyout they bought out of the Louisville

1575
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 1: series last year.

1576
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, louis was crazy.

1577
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: That was reportedly at a million.

1578
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 3: You should pay that.

1579
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: So in a day and age where we are griping

1580
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: about college athletics and budgets and finances and how much

1581
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 1: money we need from our NIL collective and we need

1582
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: everybody to come out to you know, French Lick and

1583
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: Hubre Winery and raise all this money for the NIL budget,

1584
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: there's one point five million dollars that you have bought

1585
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 1: out of games to schedule softer. In a day and

1586
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 1: age where college athletics and finances are the talk of

1587
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: the town and we need more NIL money. Everybody says it, well,

1588
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: one point five million was used to buy out of

1589
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: games to get softer on this schedule. And I assume

1590
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: if you're buying out of those games, aren't you paying

1591
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: the Kennesaw States of the world money to come play you.

1592
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: So you're spending more money to get softer on the schedule.

1593
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: That doesn't add up to me at all. Is it

1594
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: just the optics though?

1595
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 2: Is it just getting to a certain number of wins

1596
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 2: and then being able to argue you know, point differential

1597
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 2: and things of that nature to try to get into

1598
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:20,759
Speaker 2: the playoff.

1599
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: I think it's a risky game to play. I think

1600
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: it's a very risky game to play, and I think

1601
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: there's a lot of the bravado of Kurt Signetti that

1602
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: has been absolutely gold. Yeah, Indiana they needed it too.

1603
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: But if and when they're in a position like they

1604
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: would have been in or like they were in last year,

1605
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: and I don't think the Notre Dame game helped them

1606
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 1: in that world, I don't think they'll get benefit of

1607
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 1: the doubt with that. Now, again, there's some things that

1608
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti said there that I can listen to, but

1609
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: now I did not agree with all that, And I'll

1610
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: go back to the question I asked you earlier. Is

1611
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: there any part of you you as a fan that

1612
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: you want to see some entertainment in the month of

1613
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: September see on the schedule.

1614
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 3: I'm I'm pretty.

1615
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 1: Are you good with Cupcake Central?

1616
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 2: Maybe I should be a pole that Mark puts out there,

1617
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: but seriously, I think you're probably good with it as

1618
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 2: long as you win.

1619
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: Like everyone loves the good matchup until you lose. So

1620
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: Cupcacker not.

1621
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 3: Give me the dope.

1622
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see kind of split fans on that

1623
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: make there are some people that want, you know, and

1624
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: I obviously like Indiana, you know, beat Kentucky when I

1625
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: was their senior year in basketball, But just the hype

1626
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: and the appeal around those games, you know when I

1627
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: you play Kansas, especially Ago in basketball, like you get

1628
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 1: those on site environments. Boy, I think there's something with that.

1629
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean I you know, certainly wins and

1630
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: losses and dollars and cents and all that, I can

1631
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 1: hear that. But Kurtzy Daddy up to his old tricks.

1632
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: That was yesterday. Barry Odam and Purdue will have their

1633
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 1: media day out in Vegas coming up on Thursday. Much

1634
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: more on the Colts opening day of training camp. We'll

1635
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: get that Tyrese Halibert audio in a bit as well.

1636
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: This is a phantamunyhow ninety three five on a seven

1637
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: five the fan A great, great weather day, it looks

1638
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: like here to start off Colts training camp. I know

1639
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: it's going to be a scorcher tomorrow, but things get

1640
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 1: underway ten am this morning and again it looks excellent

1641
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 1: here in Westfield. Fans starting to line up and it

1642
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: is Freedmitton's head Coults dot com slash camp to get

1643
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: your tickets to believe five bucks for parking, but it

1644
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 1: will be an hour long practice today. James Boyd, we

1645
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: heard from Chris Ballard yesterday. Position battles. Ballard hit on

1646
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 1: several not just I think battles, but also just things

1647
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 1: that kind of stand out to him from a roster

1648
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,719
Speaker 1: depth chart standpoint. What drew your ears when Chris Boward

1649
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 1: started to go down that road.

1650
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,640
Speaker 2: Well, one of the things that I really wanted to

1651
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 2: push back on didn't have a chance to was when

1652
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:51,480
Speaker 2: he talked about the linebackers and he got very defiant

1653
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 2: with his response. And I'll give him credit, they have

1654
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 2: drafted very well at linebacker. But he was telling us,

1655
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, we might not have year to start,

1656
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 2: but we have a you know, a bunch of unknown

1657
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 2: guys are going to earn their names. They're gonna earn

1658
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 2: their keep. You guys didn't know who Darius Leonard was,

1659
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 2: Shaq Leonard. You guys didn't know who Zayer was until

1660
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 2: he became a guy. But still, I was kind of like,

1661
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: do you really want to be doing this because the

1662
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 2: last time that you went into a season where it

1663
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 2: was so clearly obvious. You maybe didn't invest enough into

1664
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 2: that position, which was cornerback last year.

1665
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,799
Speaker 1: It came back to bite you very very quickly.

1666
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 2: And so I just thought that was a bit odd

1667
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 2: that he was so adamant about that. Perhaps that's because

1668
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 2: again they've drafted so well and they've scouted so well

1669
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 2: at linebacker, but even then, they didn't add anybody of

1670
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 2: significance to that room to make me think like, oh,

1671
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 2: this guy could be a starter.

1672
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 1: So I thought that was a bit odd. Yeah, I

1673
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 1: think I've said this. You know, linebacker does offer some concern.

1674
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: You know, there's a reason why I put Zia Franklin

1675
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: too on the indispensable list. I've mentioned this before. I

1676
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: don't peg Zia Franklin as the second best player on

1677
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: this football team, but when you look at the depth

1678
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 1: chart and you're insalling a new defense, I think it's

1679
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 1: vital to have the quarter back over your defense out

1680
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: there as much as possible. And you know, as I

1681
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: ever mentioned yesterday, James the first time he has dealt

1682
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 1: with the surgery, you know, in his professional career. So

1683
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: you know, even for his own self, I know he's

1684
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: back running, but this would be an important ramp up here,

1685
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 1: and he's been super durable throughout his career, and I

1686
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 1: think it's played through a lot. You know, Ballard touched

1687
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: on kind of that swing tackle, and that's always one

1688
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 1: that I almost kind of view as like the twenty

1689
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: third or twenty fourth starter. You know, inevitably Bernard Ryman

1690
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 1: or Braden Smith, banking on them to play seventeen games

1691
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: is unlikely. So that means, you know, Jalen Travis or

1692
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: Blake Freelan is going to have to be asked upon

1693
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,879
Speaker 1: to play that role. And you know, for example, Travis,

1694
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:49,879
Speaker 1: let's play this out. Fourth round pickout Iowa State. Ballard

1695
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 1: mentioned yesterday he feels like he's got a high ceiling,

1696
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: and you know when you draft middle round offensive lineman,

1697
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 1: the ice ceiling. Okay, I can see where he's coming

1698
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 1: from on that. The kid played at Princeton for what

1699
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 1: three years, then went to Iowa State. It comes from

1700
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: a huge athletic background family. You know, he's only played

1701
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 1: college football the major level for one year. He's a

1702
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: massive frame, one of the biggest players ever to put

1703
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: on a Colt's uniform. But if HI does high ceiling

1704
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 1: mean year one growing pains like Bernard Ryman had I mean,

1705
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: remember Ryman's rookie year. Yeah, it was ugly.

1706
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 2: He did not think that at this point he'd be

1707
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 2: getting paid probably very soon.

1708
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: Here is all fine and well, but the question becomes this,

1709
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: if Travis is called upon as a swing tackle and

1710
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 1: there's year one growing pains, now you have an inconsistent

1711
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: quarterback situation with an inconsistent edge either on the right

1712
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 1: of the left side, depending on where that injury. So

1713
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: that's probably largely a question that all thirty two NFL

1714
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 1: teams have. Yes, but that is a question that I

1715
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 1: think is left to be answered here.

1716
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 3: And also he mentioned Blake Freeland. I'm just curious to.

1717
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 1: Know bigger and stronger, right, Yeah, which.

1718
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 3: Is he gonna figured out this year?

1719
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 2: Because again last year preseason he looked pretty rough and

1720
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 2: they did not trust him. I want to say the

1721
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 2: Dean the Great Mike Chappell had it off top of

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01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 2: his head. He played twenty three snaps last year, and

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01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,639
Speaker 2: obviously that is not very many and for a good reason.

1724
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 2: So is he someone you can rely on if you

1725
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 2: do need some more depth there along the offensive line?

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01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

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01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,480
Speaker 2: Which is not an answer I want to give obviously,

1728
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 2: but it's the reality of the Colts.

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01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 1: One other name I would add too is we've talked

1731
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 1: about this third corner battle, like is it real Jalen

1732
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 1: Jones justin Wally Ballard did throw Juju Brence's name into

1733
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 1: that group. Now again when we talk about stringing health together,

1734
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,600
Speaker 1: every time we've talked about that with Anthony richardson the

1735
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:43,759
Speaker 1: same sadly could.

1736
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 3: Be going to say he's been more hurt than Juju Brentz.

1737
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, he has been, so I guess I say that

1738
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 1: one it's a local angle. It's obviously someone you want

1739
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: to see healthy. He deserves to have some proper health.

1740
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: But that's a real battle, you know that that third

1741
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 1: corner which again as a pseudo starter Jalen Jones, justin

1742
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 1: Wally maybe Juju Brents that appears to be one on

1743
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 1: the mind of Chris Ballard as well. Nine o'clock our

1744
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: upcoming we will get to tires Halliburton's reaction on Miles

1745
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 1: Turner departing. But on the other side, Stephen Holder from

1746
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: ESPN will join us. What was his reaction to Chris

1747
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: Ballard's comments yesterday. That'll happen next right here, live from Westfield.

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Speaker 1: It is the Fan Morning Show ninety three five one

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01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 1: seven five gates are open here at Grand Park, fans

1750
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: starting to trickle into the Westfield facility. Is We're t

1751
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: minus one hour away from the first practice of training

1752
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 1: camp getting underway again, an hour long session here on

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01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 1: this Wednesday morning. James Board, I must say, I don't

1754
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 1: know if it's because you've been scouring the Nike website

1755
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:57,679
Speaker 1: for the last couple of minutes, but I must say

1756
01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 1: our next guest, I meant to compliment him. Did you

1757
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 1: s that hat he was rocking yesterday?

1758
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 8: Yeah?

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01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 3: He's always very well dressed.

1760
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 2: And I will explain I'm searching for this because Evan Cheryl,

1761
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 2: the lovely Evan Cheryl, was asking me what shorts I

1762
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 2: was wearing today, and I had to look up what

1763
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 2: brand they were, and I was double checking to make

1764
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 2: sure I could send him the correct brand and name.

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01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: Boy, I'm gonna say I've done this show for four

1766
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: years now. I don't know if anyone's ever asked me

1767
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 1: anything about my wardrobe in terms of interest. So I've

1768
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 1: never been this speedo. Well, yeah, this speedo.

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01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 2: We're still waiting by the way for someone to deliver

1770
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 2: a homemade speedo at the request of Jeff.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, we are, let's out of the palost liickers hotline

1772
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 1: right now. He was with us yesterday and I thought

1773
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 1: that Miami hat he was rocking was a great one.

1774
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: Stephen Holder from ESPN, Steve, and I meant to say

1775
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: that to you. I liked the hat choice yesterday from you.

1776
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 1: With football season right around the corner, hey.

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01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 8: You listen. Anything I can find on the clarance rack

1778
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 8: looks good to me. So yeah, and I guess I'm mulling.

1779
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 8: I'm mulling right now from friends of mine. Uh, don't

1780
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 8: like this, Kevin. The season open week one, Labor Day weekend.

1781
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 8: I don't know if I can pull it off because

1782
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:13,440
Speaker 8: we will probably have to be back that Monday. But

1783
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 8: we'll see, we'll see. We're talking about it.

1784
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:19,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Notre Dame opens up their football season down

1785
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 1: there against Steven's Hurricanes. Last time Notre Dame went down

1786
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 1: there to play the U it did not go well.

1787
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 1: That is a Sunday night game August thirty first. Boy,

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01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 1: I cannot wait. Gosh. I don't feel good though. Now

1789
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 1: they've got the Georgia transfer right. Carson Bett transfer to

1790
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 1: Miami to be their quarterback with Cam mordigone.

1791
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 6: They do, they do.

1792
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 8: I'm cautiously optimistic, but you know, we'll see. He was

1793
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 8: so hot and cold last year. I just don't know

1794
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 8: what they got, I know.

1795
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Steven autiez this earlier on the shows.

1796
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,600
Speaker 8: No cam Ward just to be Claire cam Ward.

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01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 6: Clai.

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01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 2: I think I think we all kind of realized that

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01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 2: for sure, But to pivot a bit to I guess

1800
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 2: more cult related quarterback news and really team news. One

1801
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 2: of the things I teased earlier throughout the show and

1802
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 2: for listeners who stuck around, you know, I was telling

1803
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 2: Kevin Harry, here's this that I have for you. So

1804
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: obviously they haven't won a season opener since twenty thirteen,

1805
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 2: but also from the weeks sixteen through eighteen since twenty twenty,

1806
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 2: the last year they.

1807
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 3: Made the playoffs.

1808
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 2: They're five and nine, so they don't finish season as

1809
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 2: well either. So if we think it's true, it does

1810
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 2: you know, back it up with the data. So, Stephen,

1811
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 2: when you heard Kevin ask Chris Valley yesterday how do

1812
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,520
Speaker 2: you all start and finish seasons better? And he mentioned physicality,

1813
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 2: what was your reaction to that? And perhaps having a

1814
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 2: more physical training camp.

1815
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1816
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 8: I mean this is something that Shames Siken had alluded

1817
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 8: to before, and I apparently they're they're sticking to that idea.

1818
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 8: I like it because I think, frankly, you have to

1819
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 8: do something different that I don't know if it's gonna work.

1820
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 8: I don't know what the answer is, but they don't

1821
01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 8: know either. That's why they're trying something different. I thought

1822
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 8: Chris Ballard was one hundred percent right when he talked

1823
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 8: about the way they have ended seasons, and the players

1824
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 8: talked about it too. I think it is a huge

1825
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 8: indictment because the games that matter the most are the

1826
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 8: ones that determine how your season's gonna go. The games

1827
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:20,600
Speaker 8: with the most pressure are the games late in the

1828
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 8: season when there's a lot in the line, and that

1829
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 8: is when they are at their worst. What does that

1830
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:28,640
Speaker 8: say about you as a football team if when the

1831
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 8: games are the most important, you play at your worst.

1832
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't think you can you can explain

1833
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 8: that as anything more than an indictment. So for them

1834
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 8: to change the results, they have to show up when

1835
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 8: it matters most. I think they have a lot of talent,

1836
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 8: but they have had talent maybe not enough. But they've

1837
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 8: had talent, they've been they've been a good roster through

1838
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 8: and through. They just can't get it done when it matters.

1839
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 1: Most Steven hold It from ESPN with this year on

1840
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 1: the Payless Slickers hotline. I thought we had an interesting

1841
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 1: question from Tyler earlier in the show, and I wanted

1842
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: to share it with you. In regards to the quarterback competition,

1843
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: Tyler said this, if both quarterbacks are fairly even through

1844
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 1: camp in the preseason and there's no clear winner, who

1845
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 1: would then be named the starter?

1846
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 6: You know?

1847
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 8: Okay, So I've been thinking a lot about all of

1848
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 8: this because I have to now where I'm back from

1849
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 8: vacation and I have been for hey, listen, I care.

1850
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 8: I really do care, but I gotta be honest. Like

1851
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 8: the wheels were turning flow initially, but I would say this,

1852
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 8: I have been telling people throughout the off season. I

1853
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 8: was leaning a little more toward Daniel Jones, but then look,

1854
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 8: we're allowed to change our minds. And I will say,

1855
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 8: just kind of thinking about this, and also listening to

1856
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 8: Chris Ballard yesterday, I wonder if something else might be

1857
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 8: the case, and I think what Tyler laid out there

1858
01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 8: is actually great for this thought process I've had, which

1859
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 8: is if it's if it's close, maybe you just start

1860
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:09,719
Speaker 8: Anthony Richardson to start the season. You can always change,

1861
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 8: you can always go to the other guy, and if

1862
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 8: he gets hurt, then he gets hurt, and then you

1863
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 8: have your answer on what he is. He's a guy

1864
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 8: who can't stay el thees right. So I think if

1865
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 8: you if they truly want to see Anthony Richardson get

1866
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:28,799
Speaker 8: every opportunity, well then you got to start him. Unless

1867
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 8: it's unless he loses, just flat out loses the battles.

1868
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 8: But if if he if he holds his own, then

1869
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 8: you got to start him. Otherwise, what is the point

1870
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 8: of everything? Chris Ballad said yesterday, what is even the point?

1871
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 1: Sorry? Do you think Shane Sichen thinks that?

1872
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 8: Uh? That That's why? I don't know and and I

1873
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 8: think shame Siching is of the opinion like brother, I

1874
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 8: gotta win, and I don't care who plays, and if

1875
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 8: if that means Daniel Jones plays, because I know he's

1876
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 8: gonna be out there, and so be it. I think

1877
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 8: Shane Staken, I don't know who he prefers. I'm not

1878
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 8: gonna put words in his mouth. But I will tell

1879
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 8: you this. I will tell you this. I know that

1880
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 8: he believes he can win with Daniel Jones just as

1881
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,560
Speaker 8: much as he can win with Anthony Richardson, because what

1882
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 8: he wants is a certainty. He wants I know the

1883
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:22,679
Speaker 8: guy is going to run the play that I call,

1884
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 8: He's going to be out there, et cetera, et cetera.

1885
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:28,879
Speaker 8: I think Shane is very confident in his offensive calling ability,

1886
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 8: and so that's where he probably comes down on it.

1887
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 8: But the fact remains, the bigger upside and the bigger

1888
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 8: return on investment might be Anthony Richardson. In fact, I

1889
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 8: think it is if he's on the field, but so.

1890
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 3: Out and he did not hold back.

1891
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 2: He blasted last year's defense, saying it was the worst

1892
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 2: one he's been a part of since coming to Indianapolis,

1893
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,759
Speaker 2: and he's been here one, two, three, four, five years

1894
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 2: now going into the sixth season. So when you hear

1895
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 2: that from a team leader, how much confidence or perhaps

1896
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,600
Speaker 2: you know, how much difference did this defense look? Considering that,

1897
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 2: I would think that the front office agreed with him,

1898
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 2: and they made some wholesale changes with the new defensive

1899
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 2: coordinator brought in, cam Bin.

1900
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 3: Them in savarious wars.

1901
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 2: So when you hear Buckner react like that, how much

1902
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 2: do you think that perhaps, you know, just ignited a

1903
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 2: little more fuel to change some things.

1904
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 3: And that's on that side of the ball.

1905
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's interesting.

1906
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 8: He hasn't said this specifically, but I think it's pretty

1907
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 8: clear the Forrest Buckner after last season, he had some

1908
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 8: things to say, and I mean internally, I think that

1909
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 8: is very clear. I think everything he said to us,

1910
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 8: I believe he said that and more inside in those

1911
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 8: meetings with the staff, with Chris Ballard, et cetera, because

1912
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 8: it needed to be said. His voice carries a lot

1913
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 8: of weight around here, and he has been a little

1914
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 8: bit passive about how he's viewed the situation. At the

1915
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 8: end of these seasons. He has been frustrated, don't get

1916
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 8: me wrong, but he has been a little bit deferential

1917
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 8: and saying, look, you know, last year he says, look,

1918
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 8: I trust Chris Vallord. After twenty twenty two, we were like,

1919
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 8: why are you still here? Why didn't you demand a trade?

1920
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 8: And he was like, well, I trust Chris. He says

1921
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 8: he has a plan, et cetera, et cetera. And I

1922
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 8: don't think he was deferential this time, and certainly lou

1923
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 8: Anon Rumo.

1924
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 6: I think it's the biggest reason.

1925
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 8: That that Mooney, Ward and cam Bina are here and

1926
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:32,600
Speaker 8: that we saw, you know, sort of a defensive influence

1927
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 8: in the draft. I think that is mostly due to

1928
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 8: lou Anoumo, but I'm not so sure that the forest

1929
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 8: fucking didn't play a role in that too. And I

1930
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 8: think it's great. I think that he has the standing

1931
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 8: to go in there and say what needs to be said,

1932
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 8: and it's important that they listened to him because the

1933
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 8: locker room listens to him. So I think it's pretty

1934
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 8: clear to me Forrest Buckner had an impact on the

1935
01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 8: off season.

1936
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Speaker 1: In my opinions, he is Steve Holder. You find his

1937
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:04,799
Speaker 1: work at ESPN dot com. We saw him in Bristol

1938
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 1: last week there on set there of NFL Live Again.

1939
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 1: Colts first train camp. Do you think Spencer Strader is

1940
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 1: the first player in the field or do you think

1941
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: that's because we can only see this portion of the field.

1942
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 2: It might be just as portion of the field because

1943
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 2: it looks like special teamers, because that is indeed he strikes.

1944
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 1: For someone that would be out here very early. Stephn

1945
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 1: Non quarterback, and I don't know. Maybe we'll take kicker

1946
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 1: off the board too. Position battle you think matters the most,

1947
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: or one that you care the most about.

1948
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:41,759
Speaker 8: I think I think linebacker is interesting to me because

1949
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 8: who are the linebackers?

1950
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:44,679
Speaker 6: I mean.

1951
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 8: Position that. I mean, let's be honest, Zion Franklin isn't

1952
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:53,600
Speaker 8: going to practice today or maybe for a few days.

1953
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 8: So who's playing linebacker today? I don't know.

1954
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:58,759
Speaker 6: Your guest is as good as mine.

1955
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 8: I mean it might, it might be me, or it

1956
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 8: would be except I hurt my back the other day,

1957
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 8: so so I'm out. I don't know.

1958
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:06,719
Speaker 6: I just I'm not.

1959
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 8: Saying it's the most important position in this scheme. It

1960
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 8: clearly is not, and Luanna Roumo doesn't seem really stressed

1961
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 8: about it. But but I mean, somebody's gonna have to

1962
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 8: go out there and cover tight ends and play over

1963
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 8: the middle and do those important things. So I don't

1964
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:26,719
Speaker 8: want to gloss over it, you know. I just think

1965
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 8: they've done that before with other positions, and you saw

1966
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,719
Speaker 8: how that turned out. Now they were more important positions,

1967
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 8: like the secondary and like the offensive line at times

1968
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:39,520
Speaker 8: where Chris Ballard had those blind spots. But but linebacker,

1969
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 8: there are some potential there. Don't get me wrong, there

1970
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 8: is some potential, but we've got to see it guys

1971
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 8: like Carlis and so forth. But you know that's a

1972
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 8: dangerous word, you know what I mean? And again, they

1973
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 8: will be involved in some very important matchups. So I

1974
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 8: got to see it. I got to see what they

1975
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 8: got there.

1976
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 2: So, Steven, I do want to pivot to what I

1977
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 2: thought was one of the bigger moments of the press conference,

1978
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 2: I say, with Chris Ballard where pressed on Anthony Richardson

1979
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 2: and why he doesn't think it's a make or break season.

1980
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:14,720
Speaker 2: He mentioned Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield, but as we've

1981
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 2: all pointed out in our discussions in the media room,

1982
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 2: those guys changed teams. And so, yeah, what did you

1983
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 2: think of his response to the question about Anthony and

1984
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:26,760
Speaker 2: you know, preaching more patients and also can you name

1985
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 2: a quarterback and you know, sorry putting you on the spot,

1986
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 2: but just in recent memory that has been through the

1987
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 2: things that Anthony has been through with one team and

1988
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 2: has come back and still been very good for that same.

1989
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 1: Team, right.

1990
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Speaker 8: I Actually I would argue there aren't there's not a

1991
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 8: long list if it lists at all. Now this is

1992
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,920
Speaker 8: what I talked about last year when he was benched

1993
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 8: and and the you know, the company line was, look,

1994
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 8: we're not done with him. And my argument was, well,

1995
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 8: everybody else has done this, was done with that quiter back,

1996
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 8: so what's the difference. Now, Granted they did they did

1997
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 8: reinsert him into the starting lineup because you know, the

1998
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 8: alternative wasn't good either, which was Joe Flacco's, which, by

1999
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 8: the way, I am done by all the assumptions in

2000
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 8: Cleveland that Joe Flacco is the default starter to start

2001
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 8: the season. All right, good luck with that. But anyhow,

2002
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 8: and I love Joe, but like, come on, so anyway,

2003
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 8: staying on task here, I do think that that it's

2004
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 8: a little bit of a stretch, There's no question about it. Look,

2005
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:38,679
Speaker 8: those guys Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold, they not only

2006
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 8: changed teams, but it also took like six years. Okay,

2007
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 8: so you know, be careful how you be careful for

2008
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 8: the examples you use. Now that being said, I actually

2009
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 8: welcome the concept that you know, we're not going to

2010
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 8: rush to We're not going to you know, make snap judgments.

2011
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,560
Speaker 8: I mean, look that judgments going to go be on

2012
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 8: this year. The decisions will be made about Anthony Richardson

2013
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 8: this year. I mean, that's very clear, but you don't

2014
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 8: have to make it today, you know what I mean?

2015
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 8: And I think I think it's okay to say right now, Look,

2016
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 8: let's let this play out a little bit. He's only

2017
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 8: played seventeen games now. His health is his health. We

2018
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 8: can't put a happy face on that. If he if

2019
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 8: he has a hangnail in this training camp, it's going

2020
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 8: to be devastating for him. He has to be out

2021
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 8: there every day. He cannot miss a snap. He's got

2022
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 8: to be out there and not have setbacks. If he

2023
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 8: does that, then let's see what he can do right

2024
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 8: with with a little bit of time on task. I

2025
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 8: mean a little consistency and continuity. I don't know what

2026
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 8: that might look like because we've never seen it from him,

2027
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 8: but I think it's worth at least trying to see

2028
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 8: if you know what that looks like.

2029
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 1: Steven last one and I am. I don't know if

2030
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 1: I'm just lazy today or if we've just gotten some

2031
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 1: great listener questions. And Larry asked this of us yesterday,

2032
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 1: and I thought it'd be a good question to throw

2033
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 1: off of some other people. And you know, we're in

2034
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 1: kind of a weird time. You know, with Jimmercy there's

2035
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,559
Speaker 1: a lot of past precedent, the kind of base decision

2036
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 1: making off of with carl Ers Gordon, there's not that.

2037
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 1: But Larry asked this, do you think it's as black

2038
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 1: and white as playoffs are bust? Or do you think

2039
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 1: of Anthony Ridgardson proves he can be the starter next season,

2040
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 1: yet they don't make the playoffs that would save Chris

2041
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 1: Ballard and change second for another year?

2042
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:29,760
Speaker 8: Hm? Yeah, there is always It's always complicated because it's

2043
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 8: I don't think it's ever as simple as what's the record?

2044
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 8: And do they make the playoffs with any team? Right?

2045
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 8: I mean, the season's had and flow, what do they

2046
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 8: look like, what happened? How did you get there? I

2047
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 8: think all of that is gonna matter. But I would

2048
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 8: also say this, nine years for Chris Ballard, one playoff victory.

2049
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 8: He has to wear that man and it's a really

2050
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 8: tough thing to make an argument against. If he doesn't

2051
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 8: get there this year, I will say I sent a

2052
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:05,599
Speaker 8: tone around the franchise right now, and to the player's credit,

2053
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 8: I think they're saying the right thing. They're staying playoff

2054
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 8: or bus. All right, So why should we hold Chris

2055
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 8: Ballard to a different standard? Now, the question is, I'm

2056
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 8: not determining the standard. Carl Ers and her sisters are right,

2057
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 8: but I do think I do think they have a

2058
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 8: high standard, and I don't I know that this is

2059
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 8: not okay with them. This is not okay. I mean,

2060
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 8: that woman that sat up there at that podium back

2061
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 8: in June is not someone who's okay with the results

2062
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 8: that they've had. That is very clear to me, and

2063
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 8: I think we all that all came across to all

2064
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 8: of those right. So if I were a Chris Ballard

2065
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:46,679
Speaker 8: would I would hope that this season goes well into January.

2066
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 8: Otherwise I would not feel very comfortable about my future.

2067
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 8: That's what I said.

2068
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I echo that as well. Steven Holder

2069
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:57,559
Speaker 1: from ESPN debating a trip to watch the U take

2070
01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 1: on Notre Dame in week one. I would highly encourage that,

2071
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 1: although I hope he has a MOPI playing ride home

2072
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 1: because I'm a pathetic fan like that. Stephen. We will

2073
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 1: see you in a bit. Safe travels across town. All right,

2074
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 1: Stephen Holder, right there, ESPN, Uh Mark, I got a poll,

2075
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 1: very simple poll. If you don't mind here. Sure. I

2076
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 1: saw Matthew in the YouTube chat just had a very

2077
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 1: simple the fans want Daniel Jones. So Mark, how about that?

2078
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 1: For the poll? Two answers, who do Colts fans want

2079
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 1: to be their starting quarterback in twenty twenty five? A

2080
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 1: Daniel go in alphabetical order, A Daniel Jones b Anthony Richardson.

2081
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 4: Okay, listen, so this isn't just week one. This is

2082
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 4: like if you had to pick one QB for the season.

2083
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just say, who do the Colts want? New

2084
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 1: do Colts fans want is their starting quarterback in twenty

2085
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,799
Speaker 1: twenty five? What do you think? James, I have no idea.

2086
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:56,720
Speaker 2: By the way, I think Anthony richards are gonna win

2087
01:36:56,760 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 2: that fairly easily easily. Yeah, I think so, especially with

2088
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:02,520
Speaker 2: the ways my social media looks.

2089
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 1: Because of Daniel Jones is who he is, or because

2090
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 1: they believe there's still something left of Anthony Richardson.

2091
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 2: Because I think a lot of fans are like, if

2092
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 2: we're going to stink, let's just roll with the guy

2093
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 2: that we picked number four and just see if something

2094
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 2: is there. Because we've already seen a very very hefty

2095
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 2: sample size of Daniel Jones in New York. As you

2096
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 2: pointed out earlier in the show, this was not the

2097
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:24,599
Speaker 2: case of that sort of the other quarterbacks that switch

2098
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 2: thcenes and then kind of revitalized their career. He got

2099
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 2: sixty nine starts in New York. That's a lot of starts,

2100
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 2: and so that's a good point. I do want to

2101
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 2: mention real quick. And I was throwing out there, who

2102
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 2: is a quarterback in recent memory that's kind of gone

2103
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 2: through these things and.

2104
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 3: Bounced back Stady Garrison team and Garrison.

2105
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 2: Mentioned Bryce Young in Carolina and I hadn't thought about that.

2106
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 2: And I have to give Eddie some credit there for

2107
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 2: the poll because Bryce Young had a terrible rookie season

2108
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 2: and we were all writing him off.

2109
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 3: Came back last year and.

2110
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:55,160
Speaker 1: Looked pretty good to end the year with the new

2111
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:55,839
Speaker 1: coaching staff.

2112
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so there are some you know, that's a

2113
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 2: very rare example and well to see how it obviously

2114
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 2: plays out long term. But go pull with medi Garrison there.

2115
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:04,400
Speaker 5: Boy.

2116
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:09,799
Speaker 1: I am loving these stranger things uniforms from the Indiana Fever.

2117
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 1: Have you guys seen these?

2118
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:11,919
Speaker 3: They are a spire.

2119
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:15,680
Speaker 1: Wow. Maybe this will be our Fever focus here brought

2120
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 1: to you after every game by pay less liquers, get

2121
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 1: more and pay less at payless liquors. Who cares about

2122
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 1: the game. Last night, boy, Fever gonna look good in

2123
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 1: these jerseys, and Mark, I think I saw the Indianapolis

2124
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 1: Indians are going to rock some stranger things uniforms coming up,

2125
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:32,879
Speaker 1: I believe, on Saturday night. And they also look excellent.

2126
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, stranger things. The final season starting soon, so

2127
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 4: everybody's roving up for that final gasp of stranger things.

2128
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, those Fever jerseys and the Indians jerseys both

2129
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 4: look great. I need to try to snag a couple

2130
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:45,679
Speaker 4: of those.

2131
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 2: Can I mention that we have some Colt's royalty in

2132
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 2: the house with River and Turry walking by. I always

2133
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:54,760
Speaker 2: joke with Coach, and I'll make this joke with him later.

2134
01:38:55,200 --> 01:39:00,240
Speaker 2: Whenever the football gets to flying around, he emerges, he

2135
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 2: comes out of hibernation.

2136
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 1: He's ready, he was ready a million bucks. And not

2137
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 1: only Rick Ventury in the booth, but I believe Matt Taylor,

2138
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 1: voice of the Colts, is here as well. And I

2139
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 1: think that I've seen a little bit more activity on

2140
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 1: social media from Matt Taylor. I don't know if this

2141
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:17,040
Speaker 1: is the millennial on him coming out or what all

2142
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 1: of a sudden it popped up of you should follow

2143
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 1: Matt Taylor on Instagram. I'm like, hell, is it over? Yeah?

2144
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 2: Now we don't get him on TikTok unbelieved. I got

2145
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 2: a couple of dances for you, mate, says.

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01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 1: The first one up. As long as he's not on

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01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 1: only fans, I think we're probably good on that front.

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01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 1: All right, up coming in a few one of tyres

2149
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 1: Haliburn have to say about the Miles Turner departure. We'll

2150
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 1: share that audio. Let's check it down, Mark, what do

2151
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: you think number training camp for Rick Ventury?

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01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 3: Oh, it has to be at.

2153
01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 1: Least I'm gonna say fifties.

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01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 3: I was gonna say in the fifties.

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01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:00,160
Speaker 1: Rick Ventury, what number training camp is?

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01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:00,320
Speaker 5: This?

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01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 1: Forty three? A little high, little high on that.

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01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 2: So you went chaperl like right together, I think chapters

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01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 2: at forty two.

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01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 1: Ah, okay, okay, he's got two Baltimore years him. Look

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01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:22,719
Speaker 1: at that, he's got some Baltimore years to him.

2162
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 3: Ooh okay, okay, I'm sorry short change though.

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01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 1: We'll hopefully get a little combo with Rick in here

2164
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,599
Speaker 1: as we inter closer to the preseason schedule starting two

2165
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:33,960
Speaker 1: weeks from tomorrow. That'll be in Baltimore. But again, James

2166
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 1: Boyd crowd starting to fill in here. Nice turnout for

2167
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 1: this opening practice of training camp. We got good Jimmy

2168
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 1: in the building to everything is underway here. He's a

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01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 1: big Miami Hurricane fan.

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01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 8: Uh.

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01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 1: Non Richardson storyline you care about today would be what?

2172
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:50,679
Speaker 5: Oh?

2173
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:52,720
Speaker 3: That is a good question because obviously that is the

2174
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 3: biggest one.

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01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 1: And to be fair, this is going to be a

2176
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 1: little ota like today and tomorrow is kind of a

2177
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 1: reacclamation period before we'll ramp it up a little bit

2178
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 1: more from.

2179
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 2: Honestly, I want to see Javarius Ward. Didn't get to

2180
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 2: see a lot of him. I like ot the spring,

2181
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 2: So let's see what the big time, big payday cornerback

2182
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 2: looks like in real action.

2183
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 1: Good morning practice each next three days Saturday afternoon. It's

2184
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 1: the longest stretch of camp. Four consecutive practices here for

2185
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:19,880
Speaker 1: the Colt. Sorry last night the fever as we mentioned,

2186
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:22,799
Speaker 1: not good there ending the third quarter, started the fourth James,

2187
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 1: they honestly played I thought one of their best stretches

2188
01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:28,479
Speaker 1: we've seen without Caitlyn Clark all year. And then boy,

2189
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 1: it just got away from him in a hurry there

2190
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 1: late in the third.

2191
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 2: Honestly, that effort last night probably gets you a win

2192
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:38,599
Speaker 2: against every other team in the league except that one,

2193
01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 2: which is a defending champ with the return of John

2194
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 2: quyld Jones their lineup, so they were getting healthier and

2195
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 2: you're just trying to tread water there.

2196
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 3: So tough loss.

2197
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:48,840
Speaker 2: But like I said earlier throughout the show, Kevin, no

2198
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 2: rest for the weary because they have the Aces coming

2199
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:53,680
Speaker 2: up tomorrow and that is a big one for the standings.

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01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:57,240
Speaker 1: Yes, and again up in Chicago coming up on Sunday.

2201
01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:01,759
Speaker 1: Baseball wise, yesterday cub shout out the Royals. The Brewers

2202
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 1: finally lost Joela ericson, I'll need some cleanexes to wipe

2203
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 1: away his tears from that. I don't know why I

2204
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 1: said that they've won eleven in a row. Joela Erson

2205
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 1: probably doesn't care about one game. And the Reds are

2206
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 1: currently in their stink mode there and now are you

2207
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 1: getting being a Reds fan? Are you gonna abandon following

2208
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 1: this team?

2209
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 4: Gosh, I haven't played that one in a while. I

2210
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 4: thought I dust that one.

2211
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 1: Off as much as I want to be mad at you.

2212
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 1: I really can't be too bad about that Julian Blackman

2213
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 1: with the New Orleans Saints. So we'll see if the

2214
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:37,160
Speaker 1: former cult safety can find a permanent starting job there.

2215
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:39,599
Speaker 1: Of course, cam binde him the new starting safety here

2216
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:41,720
Speaker 1: next to nit Cross. Nitcross, the guy that you know

2217
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 1: had a really nice training camp last year and turned

2218
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 1: that into I think a really promising third season for

2219
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 1: him and Terry McLaurin holding out. Although I did see, Hey,

2220
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 1: the man we have I love this during holdout season,

2221
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:54,599
Speaker 1: like you know, people are tracking like Trey Hendrickson's car

2222
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 1: driving to Florida. I did see that someone tweeted that

2223
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 1: they were in the yoga class in the you see

2224
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 1: area with Terry McLaurin this morning. So he's in the area.

2225
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 1: He's not here in Indy in his hometown necessarily, so

2226
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 1: he's close by, but he is apparently holding outs and

2227
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:15,800
Speaker 1: again this is the final year of his second NFL contract,

2228
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:17,760
Speaker 1: and so we'll see how that plays out for a

2229
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:20,320
Speaker 1: team that certainly was a bright spot last year across

2230
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:20,799
Speaker 1: the NFL.

2231
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 3: It's not so I look.

2232
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 2: I just look at him, and I wish that I

2233
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,560
Speaker 2: could be as buff as Brett Bensley.

2234
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:30,719
Speaker 1: Brett Bensley, Yes, yeah, I mean the shoulders, the traps,

2235
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:32,720
Speaker 1: the Deltoyd's. I'm just naming body part. I don't even

2236
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 1: if these are the right ones. You again, something you've

2237
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:35,760
Speaker 1: never said about me?

2238
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:39,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know I don't want to be you know too,

2239
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:41,759
Speaker 2: you know profuse in my love of you, Kevin.

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01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 3: You do have a wife and kids at home?

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01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, sure, I'm sure Maddy's very worried you didn't

2242
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:48,040
Speaker 1: compliment you on your giggle earlier.

2243
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:50,519
Speaker 2: I did see you do the stanky leg earlier. Yes, yes,

2244
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 2: the music you know, kind of hit me. And when

2245
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 2: you hear the stanky leg, you gotta get a little

2246
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:54,800
Speaker 2: sticky leg?

2247
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 1: Is stanky up in Westfield? Does James Lloyd rocks that

2248
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 1: on the camera? If I did that, I might be

2249
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 1: at the nearest local hospital here, So I'll probably continue

2250
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 1: to sit down On the other side, What did Tyre

2251
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 1: Saliburt have to say about the departure of Miles Turner.

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01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 1: We'll play that for you next. Well, boys, I think

2253
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 1: you might be surprised by the old poll results here

2254
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 1: of who do you want to be the Colts starting

2255
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:22,799
Speaker 1: quarterback in twenty twenty five? Very simple poll Anthony Richardson

2256
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 1: or Daniel Jones. We'll share those results upcoming. Shout out

2257
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:30,639
Speaker 1: to Layman and his father making the truck here from Toledo.

2258
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 1: James and I just chatted with them during the break.

2259
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 1: They're staying over in some cabins the green Field area

2260
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 1: and they're here four straight days. Again. The longest stretch

2261
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 1: of Colts practice here at Grand Park is this week,

2262
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 1: four in a row. To begin things, right out of

2263
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:47,040
Speaker 1: the gate, a player starting to trickle out on the

2264
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:49,880
Speaker 1: practice field. Fans are in the building, and it is

2265
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 1: a gorgeous Wednesday morning here at Colts Camp.

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01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:56,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're hearing the kids screaming in the back running

2267
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:58,480
Speaker 2: there forty times trying to catch footballs.

2268
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 1: Life must be good. We have no bills and a

2269
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Indeed, all right, Mark Dyckton, let's cue

2270
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 1: this up. Tyre's Halliburn. We have yet to hear from him,

2271
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 1: and you know, exit interviews or anything like that of

2272
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:12,880
Speaker 1: the sense And again a month ago and what yesterday

2273
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:17,320
Speaker 1: was Game seven against the Oklahoma City thunder Tyrese made

2274
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 1: an appearance on the Pat McAfee show yesterday and he

2275
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 1: was asked about the departure of Miles Turner, and here

2276
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 1: was what the Pacers star had to say.

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01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,320
Speaker 11: Obviously, since I've gotten here and just for the last

2278
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 11: whatever ten years, Miles name has been synonymous with our

2279
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 11: organization and he's done a lot here and I think

2280
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 11: that people have really taken a liking to Miles and

2281
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 11: he's done some great things, been a part of some

2282
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:41,920
Speaker 11: great groups. But you know, I think they to day

2283
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:43,800
Speaker 11: it is a business he's got to do, you know,

2284
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 11: what's best for him, and wish them the best moving forward.

2285
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:48,679
Speaker 11: I mean, I'm my focus is now on the guys

2286
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:50,559
Speaker 11: that we have here and getting better here. But yeah,

2287
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:52,559
Speaker 11: I wish them the best, you know, moving forward.

2288
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 1: He's done. Does Tyres Haliburn ever misspeak? I mean, that's

2289
01:45:57,439 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 1: like such a perfect answer to be like pat Miles

2290
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 1: on the back. But also at the end the wa

2291
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 1: ain't where about no old girl?

2292
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:07,599
Speaker 3: You with your new girl?

2293
01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 5: Nah?

2294
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 1: Now you're what your new relationship? You new man? Okay,

2295
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:12,800
Speaker 1: Let's see how I go. Let's see if you you know,

2296
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm a better catch. It'll be a little different talent

2297
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 1: And honestly give.

2298
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:19,200
Speaker 3: You a real answer for your question.

2299
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:20,920
Speaker 2: I think the only time you ever really miss spoke

2300
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 2: was when he didn't speak after the Cleveland game. That

2301
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 2: was the only time I've ever seen him not really

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01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:28,880
Speaker 2: respond correctly in the media. But I do think that

2303
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 2: what he said was true. I don't people want the

2304
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:32,479
Speaker 2: players to be better. I don't think Tie is a

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01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 2: very bitter person at all.

2306
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:35,680
Speaker 1: Well, publicly he's not, I think going to air that.

2307
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 1: I think by the scenes there will naturally be some fire.

2308
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 2: And I think you see that with him a lot

2309
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 2: more when he's on the court, right.

2310
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 3: You know, some people carry it just you know.

2311
01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 2: Obviously guys like an emotional player, they carry it all

2312
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 2: the time. Tyreez can laugh and joke with you, but

2313
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 2: in between those lines, man, you know, Fawnsworth Bentley as

2314
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 2: they call him, wants to kill you a.

2315
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 1: Couple of Haliburton items. In relation to his rehab, he

2316
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 1: said about seven to eight weeks surgeries, when he'll lose

2317
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 1: a scooter. I think we saw him scooting around of

2318
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 1: the WNBA also game. He has done some upper body work.

2319
01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 1: He mentioned that probably won't travel as much early in

2320
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:13,599
Speaker 1: the NBA season due to his Rehappy did say Kevin

2321
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:17,000
Speaker 1: Durant visited him at his home last week. Kevin Durant

2322
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:19,400
Speaker 1: was in town for the WNBA All Star a week

2323
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 1: and at and made the trip up to see time.

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01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:24,840
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm being body shamed. In the YouTube chat, someone

2325
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 2: said I need to do more push ups. I guess

2326
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 2: me and tyres can work on together. Yes, yes, I

2327
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 2: think I just eat.

2328
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 1: So poorly, Like my chest area just looks you know,

2329
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:34,879
Speaker 1: halfway whatever.

2330
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:36,720
Speaker 3: It's all good, but I did.

2331
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:39,719
Speaker 2: I will say getting back to the Tyrese who obviously

2332
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:42,240
Speaker 2: is much more important. His body and the way it

2333
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:44,080
Speaker 2: looks and feels is a lot more important than ours.

2334
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 2: It was good to hear from him and hear that

2335
01:47:46,479 --> 01:47:49,599
Speaker 2: he has heard from other people around the sports world.

2336
01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:52,439
Speaker 2: Really as far as the recovery process, and so we've

2337
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:54,759
Speaker 2: talked about previously how close he is with Jason Hatum,

2338
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 2: so at least he has somebody kind of going through

2339
01:47:57,040 --> 01:47:59,120
Speaker 2: it any different timelines, we're going through it together.

2340
01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:01,200
Speaker 1: I think when the overrated stuff came out, did he

2341
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:03,679
Speaker 1: say Joelle Embiid had yahed out to him as well? Yep,

2342
01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 1: as well, which you know, that's a little bit more.

2343
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 1: And I know this bothers some people, but the NBA

2344
01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 1: culture climate can be a little bit more from a

2345
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 1: uh whatever, the we're all in this together. Yeah, you

2346
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,240
Speaker 1: sort of fail to it. I believe that was Kaylin

2347
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: Jackson in case here say Ford. I think both of

2348
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 1: them just made the rounds here at Colt's training camp.

2349
01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:24,679
Speaker 1: So it looks like probably all the daughters because Carli

2350
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 1: ters Gordon seemingly never missed the practice that we're at.

2351
01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:30,599
Speaker 1: So you could get some ersa daughter flavor around here

2352
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 1: for opening day of camp. One more Halliburton item he mentioned,

2353
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 1: and you know, again I'm not here to retwist the

2354
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 1: knife at all, but this is the first time we've

2355
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 1: really heard him talk at all about looking back on

2356
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:46,280
Speaker 1: his finals experiences. He kind of summarized him from a

2357
01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 1: health standpoint. You know, we saw the video. I think

2358
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 1: Scott Agnes had that video in game two. Remember down

2359
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:54,520
Speaker 1: in Oka see when he was limping off the podium.

2360
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:57,559
Speaker 1: He said he had some swelling. MRI showed that after

2361
01:48:57,600 --> 01:49:02,120
Speaker 1: game two, but felt good. Now in game five he

2362
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 1: felt a little bit of a poll. That was the

2363
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:07,439
Speaker 1: game down there in OKC where you know, he struggled

2364
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 1: and the Pacers lost, you know, rather handily there and

2365
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:13,720
Speaker 1: that was deemed a capstrain. But he said what was

2366
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 1: really surprising, and again obviously extremely disappointing about how Game

2367
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 1: seven went. He said he felt great after game six,

2368
01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 1: and I think we did the show after game six,

2369
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:30,960
Speaker 1: and you know that was the thought James of like

2370
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:33,160
Speaker 1: game six on a Thursday, and we did that show Friday.

2371
01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, he looked great in game six, like I

2372
01:49:36,160 --> 01:49:38,719
Speaker 1: would have said, no effects. Remember he only played what twenty.

2373
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:40,639
Speaker 3: It was a perfect scenariotive game.

2374
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 1: He sits down, he didn't have to tax him at all.

2375
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:47,599
Speaker 1: So I think that just contributed to obviously the surprise

2376
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:49,880
Speaker 1: and the shock of you know, when he went down.

2377
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:52,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, even just the authenticity to say, yeah, I wanted

2378
01:49:52,720 --> 01:49:54,759
Speaker 2: to get a walk off like Kobe, but I couldn't.

2379
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:56,639
Speaker 2: I mean, how many athletes are going to say that

2380
01:49:56,760 --> 01:49:59,680
Speaker 2: in the moment. So good on ty Reeves for you know,

2381
01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:01,960
Speaker 2: just got I guess clearing the air a little bit

2382
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:04,680
Speaker 2: there and being a little more vulnerable, which I appreciated.

2383
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:07,400
Speaker 2: But also the fact that you know, he's not gonna

2384
01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 2: let this, I would imagine be the end of the story.

2385
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 2: And that's kind of what pivot a little bit the

2386
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 2: TJ McConnell. That's what he said in his Player Stribune article.

2387
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:17,000
Speaker 1: How about that tech McConnell. You know, we saw the

2388
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 1: players should be with Miles Strander back during the season.

2389
01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:21,800
Speaker 1: We saw McConnell yesterday, James, I know you wanted to

2390
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 1: bring this up. I thought it was I thought it

2391
01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 1: was awesome, And I'll just start here with with McConnell

2392
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:30,000
Speaker 1: because I know you want to share some thoughts on

2393
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 1: the player should be in piece that he wrote. But

2394
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:34,880
Speaker 1: when Game seven happened and we did the show the

2395
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 1: morning after, I said to you and Jeff, that lost

2396
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 1: to me, and the scene in particular of them walking

2397
01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 1: off the floor, it felt like a high school team

2398
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:47,080
Speaker 1: had just lost in the regional final. It felt like

2399
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:50,920
Speaker 1: the college team had just lost in the Sweet six

2400
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:53,320
Speaker 1: team and you had watched this team for three or

2401
01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 1: four years come together. Like I don't get a pro

2402
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:59,040
Speaker 1: sports vibe from last year's Pacers. I got a college,

2403
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:04,679
Speaker 1: high school live cheerleaders, crying student sections, crying, parents are weeping.

2404
01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 1: That's what I got. And McConnell really the first couple

2405
01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 1: of paragraphs he had, you know, the quoting there is

2406
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:13,519
Speaker 1: we did it as a family, and he basically said

2407
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 1: he's never felt that as a pro at all, and

2408
01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:18,439
Speaker 1: pretty much said that just in his own words, I

2409
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 1: just love the title of it to start off. As

2410
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:21,839
Speaker 1: a writer. It was awful.

2411
01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:25,360
Speaker 2: It meant everything, and I was like, what a nice

2412
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:28,680
Speaker 2: succinct way to put it, because that is what we

2413
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:32,880
Speaker 2: all felt like. Man, that really really sucked. It really

2414
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 2: hurt that ended in that fashion. But boy do we

2415
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:39,599
Speaker 2: have a lifetime memories from that, because I'm not going

2416
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 2: out on a limb to say we will never see

2417
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:43,920
Speaker 2: a run to the finals like that by any other

2418
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:47,360
Speaker 2: team ever, even by a player individually in the playoffs.

2419
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 2: I mean, Halliburton has hit you know, game winners. I

2420
01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 2: believe three game winners during that run. Another shot lates,

2421
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 2: He tend its overtime players have played their entire careers

2422
01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:01,519
Speaker 2: and not in Hall of Fame players great players and

2423
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:03,600
Speaker 2: have done that entirely. They have not done that in

2424
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 2: their entire careers. Excuse me, so to me, it was

2425
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:10,360
Speaker 2: just very cool to see TJ reflect and also the

2426
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:13,639
Speaker 2: defiance in sort of the Indiana swagger of Okay, count

2427
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:14,799
Speaker 2: us out again and see what happens.

2428
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are the two big things.

2429
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:16,120
Speaker 8: He said.

2430
01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:17,960
Speaker 1: He wanted to say thank you to the fans, but also,

2431
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 1: don't you dare count us out again? Those were kind

2432
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:21,800
Speaker 1: of the two big That.

2433
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:23,679
Speaker 2: Was like his classy way of raising his middle finger

2434
01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 2: to the haters out.

2435
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 1: The one thousand percent. And yeah, he had the quote

2436
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:29,000
Speaker 1: in there of how it ended was so awful, but

2437
01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 1: the rest it meant everything, which again is a tough thing,

2438
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:33,800
Speaker 1: and you see that with the way he plays, he

2439
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 1: gives everything to balance there. He did tell a pretty

2440
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 1: funny joke at the end of that player's tribute piece

2441
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:43,120
Speaker 1: without when Tyre's Halliburton got traded here TJ introducing himself

2442
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 1: to Tyrese and the Pacers facility and he's like, oh

2443
01:52:46,120 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 1: my gosh, he has no idea who I am at all.

2444
01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 2: Like that is exactly do you know what it reminded

2445
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 2: me of when John Stockton said he was over was

2446
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 2: at Barcelona when they had the Dream Team and he

2447
01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 2: was saying everyone was getting mobbed and he's like the

2448
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:01,640
Speaker 2: you know, six foot ish white guy who could just

2449
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 2: walk through the crowd and people don't even know who

2450
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 2: he is. And he's talking to some lady that this

2451
01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 2: old video of this. He's talking to some lady who

2452
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:10,599
Speaker 2: has the Dream Team on her shirt and she doesn't

2453
01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 2: realize she's talking to John Stockton. What about what was

2454
01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:15,840
Speaker 2: hilarious and so similar to that effect for ty Resent TJ.

2455
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:17,519
Speaker 1: No No, I know I've told the story before, but

2456
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:19,479
Speaker 1: it made me think of TJ McConnell and I doing

2457
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:24,599
Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving you know, dinner giveaway that the Pacers do each year,

2458
01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:28,360
Speaker 1: and TEJ McConnell introducing himself with Jalen Smith flanking on

2459
01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:30,799
Speaker 1: the other side as Hi, I'm TJ from the marketing apartment,

2460
01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 1: which had to make me waugh when he said that,

2461
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:37,479
Speaker 1: all right, what are the poll results? Who should be

2462
01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 1: or who do Colts fans want to be the starting

2463
01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 1: quarterback in twenty twenty five? Would that be Anthony Richardson?

2464
01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:46,920
Speaker 1: Would that be Daniel Jones? We will give you those

2465
01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 1: results on the other side. One final time Fan Morning

2466
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:52,040
Speaker 1: show Here Kevin Bowen and James Boyd live from once Field.

2467
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:55,839
Speaker 1: All right, wait live here at Grand Park. The hustle

2468
01:53:55,880 --> 01:54:00,439
Speaker 1: and bustle is underway, players on the practice field and

2469
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 1: we are just look over ten minutes away from that

2470
01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 1: horn officially sounding in the Colts first training camp practice

2471
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five starting. I did get a glimpse

2472
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:13,519
Speaker 1: of Anthony Richardson a helmet on going through some mental

2473
01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:16,320
Speaker 1: reps out there. Some of the other quarterbacks have started

2474
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:19,560
Speaker 1: to throw just a mental rep so far from Anthony Richardson,

2475
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 1: but he is out on the practice field. Myself, Kevin Bowe,

2476
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:26,680
Speaker 1: and James Boyd, Mark Dychton back in studio. We're here,

2477
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:30,599
Speaker 1: of course all week long. If you're at Colts training camp,

2478
01:54:30,640 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 1: come by and say hey to us out here. James,

2479
01:54:35,160 --> 01:54:37,680
Speaker 1: we had Mark send out a very simple poll. The

2480
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:41,720
Speaker 1: poll has shifted a bit, but I think I think

2481
01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 1: you would Mark maybe would still be a little bit

2482
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 1: surprised by the results of this poll. Who do you

2483
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 1: want to be the Colts starting quarterback in twenty twenty five?

2484
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 1: And as I continue to hit refresh, it seems to

2485
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 1: be the answers for Anthony Richardson continue to float in

2486
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:04,520
Speaker 1: five percent right now, Richard said about thirty five. For

2487
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:07,080
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, your thoughts on that.

2488
01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:09,920
Speaker 2: It was about fifty to fifty like twenty minutes ago.

2489
01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 2: So that was certainly a bit surprising to me. And

2490
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:18,000
Speaker 2: I think, like I said that I would win that argument,

2491
01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:20,840
Speaker 2: but mainly because again, you know what you have and

2492
01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, and I guess some would argue you know

2493
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 2: what you having.

2494
01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 3: Anthony Richson because of the injuries and the inaccuracy.

2495
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:28,680
Speaker 2: But still I think you stick with the guy you

2496
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:31,600
Speaker 2: drafted because that is the one that, if he hits

2497
01:55:32,120 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 2: that I think would ideally be the most realistic path

2498
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:38,480
Speaker 2: to everyone keeping their jobs, having success long term, all

2499
01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:41,000
Speaker 2: those things. But so many questions in the air with

2500
01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:44,879
Speaker 2: Anthony regarding his health, his accuracy as I just mentioned,

2501
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:47,880
Speaker 2: and also his maturity. You know, that's not something that

2502
01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:51,400
Speaker 2: I can necessarily dismiss just because of everything that happened

2503
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:52,000
Speaker 2: last year.

2504
01:55:52,120 --> 01:55:53,960
Speaker 3: You know, is all that stuff behind you.

2505
01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:56,840
Speaker 2: We've talked so much about the injuries and things like that,

2506
01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:59,640
Speaker 2: but from a preparation standpoint, we can no longer hear

2507
01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:03,000
Speaker 2: things you not preparing as well as you should have,

2508
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 2: or maybe not being the first guy in. Lads, gotta

2509
01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:07,360
Speaker 2: leave all the cliches. I mean, the QB is a

2510
01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:10,320
Speaker 2: walking cliche. So even if you come here very early

2511
01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 2: and totally your thumbs, just do all that stuff and

2512
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:15,000
Speaker 2: have that nipped in a bug going into your third season.

2513
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:17,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I think some of the comments

2514
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:19,560
Speaker 1: are interesting here as you take a look at those.

2515
01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:21,879
Speaker 1: Daniel says, we all know what we'll get from Richardson

2516
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:24,720
Speaker 1: Jones has always been a better qub, even during his

2517
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 1: worst times.

2518
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:29,920
Speaker 2: I don't know about always. It was rough for the

2519
01:56:29,960 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 2: Giants and Daniel Jones on.

2520
01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 1: The flip side and again like there are people liking

2521
01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 1: that tweet, but then on the flip side of it,

2522
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 1: you get this from James, not you, James Boyd at

2523
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:41,160
Speaker 1: different James, he goes Daniel Jones gets is another dumb

2524
01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:45,040
Speaker 1: nine win season, no playoffs in the seventeenth pick in

2525
01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:48,280
Speaker 1: the draft, No thanks in all caps.

2526
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:53,120
Speaker 2: That is I think probably the biggest conundrum for the Colts.

2527
01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 2: If they make the playoffs with Daniel Jones, Let's say

2528
01:56:57,080 --> 01:57:00,000
Speaker 2: they go ten and seven, they lose the first round,

2529
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:03,920
Speaker 2: then what do you keep them? Do you move on

2530
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:05,880
Speaker 2: from them? Do you move on from Anthony? Like that

2531
01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:09,960
Speaker 2: to me is like the most nightmare situation because it's

2532
01:57:10,120 --> 01:57:13,120
Speaker 2: just you want to have a definitive answer, and I

2533
01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 2: think that will give you the most murky outcome.

2534
01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, if you're gonna be bad, be bad.

2535
01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:24,840
Speaker 1: I know it's not necessarily what everybody wants, but you know,

2536
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 1: if you.

2537
01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:27,760
Speaker 2: Know, certainly not from a front office standpoint, no fan

2538
01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:30,040
Speaker 2: base standpoint, Yeah, I think they would prefer the top

2539
01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 2: five pick over a top.

2540
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 1: You know, their eighteen huge amount of the audience and

2541
01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:36,960
Speaker 1: I get that that kind of view. This season weirdly

2542
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:41,480
Speaker 1: all about being about, you know, finding the next future

2543
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:46,240
Speaker 1: at quarterback. And again, I know that's not what wins

2544
01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:49,040
Speaker 1: and losses people out there want, but that is the

2545
01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 1: reality of where you're at with this situation. So again,

2546
01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:54,520
Speaker 1: things getting underway right now. Is he Tyler Warren catching

2547
01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:57,480
Speaker 1: a few balls on the sidelines getting ready that lefty

2548
01:57:57,560 --> 01:57:58,760
Speaker 1: toss from Tyler Warren?

2549
01:57:59,160 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 8: Yes?

2550
01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:01,200
Speaker 1: How many times we're going to see that this season?

2551
01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:02,880
Speaker 3: I hope we see it a few times.

2552
01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 2: And even in the wildcat I mean goal line for

2553
01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:08,400
Speaker 2: the Colts if they get down there, boy, Tyler Warren,

2554
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:11,800
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, Jonathan Taylor.

2555
01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:13,160
Speaker 1: They should be elite in that area.

2556
01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they should never lose when it comes to one

2557
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:17,680
Speaker 2: yard or closer.

2558
01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren through let me double check this. I want

2559
01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 1: to say six passes last year at Penn State.

2560
01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 3: I know one of them was for a touchdown.

2561
01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:30,760
Speaker 1: Three of six last year. Indeed, he did have a

2562
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:33,360
Speaker 1: touchdown last year. So when we say he might toss

2563
01:58:33,360 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 1: one left handed, that's what Penn State did with him. Again,

2564
01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:39,840
Speaker 1: thank you to Josh Downs. Thank you to Kenny Moore

2565
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:43,839
Speaker 1: the second. I believe Jake will have Alec Pearce joining

2566
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 1: the show today. I think Jake's gonna be here from

2567
01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:49,040
Speaker 1: noon to three, so he'll be live here. We'll keep

2568
01:58:49,040 --> 01:58:51,400
Speaker 1: you post on the player front of who we will

2569
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:54,040
Speaker 1: have throughout the week. But again, one more time from

2570
01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:58,640
Speaker 1: a practice schedule standpoint morning sessions each of the next

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Speaker 1: three days, ten start times each day. I think it's

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Speaker 1: just an hour today, maybe even tomorrow. I think we

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Speaker 1: progressed to like eleven fifteen, maybe even eleven thirty. Yep,

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Speaker 1: at some point here later in the week, and then

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Speaker 1: Saturday is that late afternoon practice. So head to colts

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Speaker 1: dot com slash camp and yes, if you've got young kids,

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Speaker 1: I think you should bring them out here. There's plenty

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Speaker 1: of activities to keep them entertained outside of just watching

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Speaker 1: practice itself and.

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Speaker 3: Our future cults out here. Maybe it's a.

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Speaker 1: Nice little turnout out here. I saw Jonathan Taylor Jersey

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Speaker 1: and the kid out of one of the best mullets

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Just he looked absolutely he's probably a

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Speaker 1: ball with two He probably dominates on the playground, dominates

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Speaker 1: from the recess those are the days standpoint, so we'll

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Speaker 1: continue to keep you posted. One oh seven five the

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Speaker 1: fan dot Com. I love a notebook recap and of

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Speaker 1: course James's work over on The Athletic. Thank you on

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Speaker 1: site engineer Cameron Blank and Chip. Thank you to Mark

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Speaker 1: dykedon back in studio, James boy Kevin Bowen signing off

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Speaker 1: from Westfield. We'll talk