1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Your boyfriend's in the news. 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: My boyfriend you Sting? 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: You love Sting? I did. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 2: I love them a lot when I was younger. 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Now we should be we should clarify the Police. 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: Well, when we talk Sting, there's also a very famous 7 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 3: professional wrestler name Sting. So we're talking about Sting the 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 3: recording artist. 9 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about Gordon Sumner. 10 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Yes, you know what. 11 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: Sting was good, but he wasn't even my favorite in 12 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: the band. It was Stuart Copelan who was my favorite. 13 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: The Police were a three piece band. 14 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: Yep. 15 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 3: By the way, isn't it weird that there was a 16 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: Gordon Sumner and yet Alf was named Gordon Shumway, Like, 17 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: I mean, that's very. 18 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: Close to each other. 19 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: So close Alf the television show character from the nineteen eighties. Okay, 20 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: So the Police were a famous three piece band. They 21 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: were English band seventy seven to eighty four. I think 22 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 3: they were active together. Sting was the mega star that 23 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: came out out of the Police. But they had what 24 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: they on like seventy five million albums. I mean, they 25 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: were obviously a massive, you know, massive success in the 26 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: late seventies and early eighties and probably the pinnacle. 27 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: The Police was Every Breath You Take? 28 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, best selling song of nineteen eighty three? 29 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: Is that their Stairway to Heaven? Is Every Breath You Take? 30 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: Is that they're big? 31 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 3: Now any any well versed music fan, Well we'll get 32 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: to that in a second. Sting is now being sued 33 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 3: by the other two. 34 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, Andy Summers and Stuart Copeland. They're suing him over 35 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 4: unpaid royalties and also lack of co writing credits on 36 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 4: the song Every Breath You Take. 37 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: Now. 38 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 3: The Daily Mail claimed that Sting has earned Now this 39 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: is in pounds. I don't know what's the pound to 40 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 3: got it? 41 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: Okay? Do you know what the number is? Okay? What 42 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: is five hundred and fifty thousand pounds? 43 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: About seven hundred and forty thousand dollars? 44 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: Okay, so a pound is worth more than a dollar then, okay, 45 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: So they claimed Sting earns five hundred and fifty thousand 46 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 3: pounds annually, which is how much. 47 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 4: Seven hundred and forty It's between seven hundred and thirty 48 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 4: and seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 49 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: Okay, Its just nothing. He does nothing. He just gets 50 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: money that shows up because he wrote or claimed he wrote, right, 51 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: every Breath. 52 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: You take and it's still being played right, and so. 53 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 1: The other two bup gets zip right. 54 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: And so the Copeland and Summers they say, wait a second, 55 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: we had a role in writing this song. We have 56 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 3: been owed millions of dollars based on that. This is 57 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 3: how much this guy makes every year. 58 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: Yep, And now they're suing him in some sort of 59 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: English court. 60 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 4: Right. They're saying that they've never received any royalties on 61 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 4: proper songwriting recognition. So every year radio stations across the 62 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 4: country they have to fill out these BMI ass cap. 63 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: For oh boy and boy. It's a lot easier than 64 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: it used to be. 65 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 4: I mean you used to actually have to physically handwrite 66 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 4: it out, but now the computer systems will just print 67 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 4: out a report for you. 68 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: So, like Insider Baseball here, just want to make sure 69 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: people understand what you're saying. There are three major BMI 70 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: as CAAP, SEASACK, or at least there were music publishing 71 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: companies that get you that radio stations or bars or 72 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 3: anybody who plays music, and commercial any sort of commercial 73 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: entity that plays licensed music. If you're a major artist, 74 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 3: you're under one of those three and you have to 75 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: pay them, and the fees vary based on which company 76 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: it is, but you pay them a fee every year 77 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 3: in order to play their music, and then you fill 78 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: out a form saying what music you played, and then 79 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: the money is divvied up based on how often a 80 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: song gets played. 81 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 4: Right, So at a radio station, they'll print out this 82 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 4: report and they could potentially say we played every breath 83 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 4: you take ten times over the past year, and then 84 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 4: that report is sent to Deloutnetuche, which is an accounting firm, 85 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 4: and then they send it out to the artists and say, Okay, 86 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 4: you're going to get a check for this amount of 87 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: money based on this one radio station playing every breath 88 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 4: you take ten times. Now, if you put that across 89 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 4: this country alone, you're talking about fifty thousand radios. 90 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: And what some people may not realize is song writing 91 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: is where the money's at. 92 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: Actually writing. 93 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 4: Why these guys are suing Andy Summers and Stuart Copeland 94 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 4: are suing Sting because they want co writing credits because 95 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 4: in the reports. 96 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: You always have to say who is the writer of 97 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: the song? 98 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: Right? Okay, so. 99 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 3: You're a Sting megafan, I have a hot take for 100 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: you. You tell me if I'm way out in left field 101 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: in this because I'm not a Sting mega. 102 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: Fan, We're going to be synchronous in this. 103 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: I think Fields of Gold is one hundred times the 104 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: song Every Breath You Take is. 105 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: Really can we do a comparative? 106 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: Well, what is your opinion? 107 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 3: Because of the fact you said, really, I don't know 108 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: my house that usually doesn't go well, Really. 109 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: I don't agree. 110 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: That's fine. What didn't you say that I was. 111 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: Alive when Every Breath You Take was like the song 112 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 4: of the year, And I will see. 113 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 3: That you're blinded by personal bias. You're not You're not 114 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 3: thinking rationally. 115 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: I don't think Fields of what is it? Fields of Gold? 116 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: Fields of Gold feels incredibly, It's incredible sentimental song. 117 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: It's at everybody that takes about a stalker. It's someone 118 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: being stalked. Fields of Gold as sentimental. 119 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 4: Sting describes the song as having an ambiguous tone, capable 120 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 4: of being interpreted either romantic or sines. 121 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: keV can we. 122 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: Play these songs back to back? Why don't we play 123 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 3: Every Breath You Take first? 124 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: Can I do that? 125 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: Kevi's gonna pull that up because I want you people 126 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: to hear this song is about somebody being stalked, and 127 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 3: you're chasing. 128 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 4: He wrote the song while he was staying in a 129 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 4: house in Jamaica that once belonged to the. 130 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: Whole Sting Son. Is very weird to me, Kevin, do 131 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: we have this? Okay? 132 00:05:50,680 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 5: Very good? 133 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: Guess is creepy stalk stalking? 134 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: See yeah, you take it that way, straining order material 135 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: right here? 136 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's creepy. 137 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: Okay, so we got we're taking the senator sinister side. 138 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: What do you think it is? You can also look 139 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: at it. 140 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 4: As you know, I'll protect you, I'll be watching you. 141 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 3: You want it to be good or bad? That's your problem. 142 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 3: You You are blinders because you're attracted to him and 143 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 3: you have all these memories and you just you it's 144 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 3: what you want it to be. I mean, he's saying 145 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 3: it right there, is like I'll be watching you, no 146 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 3: I or. 147 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: He sang through the good and the bad, I'll be 148 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: there for you. 149 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 3: Now, compare that incredibly creepy song with this musical master 150 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: per Okay, you're. 151 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 6: Wise, you fucket this song and is jealous Scott ask 152 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 6: that's beautiful. 153 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is pretty very You can imagine the picture 154 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: in your. 155 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 5: Mind exactly with that one. 156 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, lyrics matter? 157 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: Are those bagpipes. Yes, that makes it even better. So Sting. 158 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 4: They released five albums and think about that, nineteen seventy 159 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 4: seven to nineteen eighty four not. 160 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: A long amount of time. 161 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 4: Oh it's seven years, right, five albums and a lot, 162 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 4: a lot of major hits. Roxanne Message in a bottle. 163 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 4: Every little thing she does is magic. 164 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know Sting kind of did the thing. 165 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: And you see this a lot where these guys, he 166 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: kind of became bigger than the group itself, or at 167 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: least in his mind he was bigger than the group itself. 168 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: He had LSD lead singer's disease. 169 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: Yes, that that I you know. 170 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: I mean, he had a reasonably successful solo career. I 171 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: don't think he achieved the heights he did with him, 172 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: but this will be fascinating to see a play out. 173 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: And I just wanted to touch on that because I 174 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: know you are a massive Sting fan and your boys 175 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: alleged to be screwing his buddies, and so I wanted 176 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: you to. 177 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope they win. 178 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: I hope they win because they deserve the songwriting credit. 179 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: It was a band. 180 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: If Sting had written that song as just Sting without 181 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 4: the Andy and Stuart. 182 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: Then you got a first name rais on a solo career. 183 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 4: You know, if that was the song he released during 184 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 4: his solo career, yeah, that should be his, But he 185 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: did it as a band, so the band should get credit. 186 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: One guy is way older than the other two. 187 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: Which one the Sandy Summers. 188 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't realize he was that. 189 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 3: Sting and Stuart Copeland are both seventy three years old, 190 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 3: and Andy Summers is like nine years older than those two. 191 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he's get him his money quick. He's not 192 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: far on time.