1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Line from theal Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. So this was the post on social media. 3 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: Five NFL teams chose not to honor Charlie Kirk with 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: a moment of silence today, and it lists the five teams. 5 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: And now I guess we're supposed to ask what that 6 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: means or what we want to do about it. Tony Katz, 7 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: Tony Kats today, good to be with. You find everything 8 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: at Tony Katz dot com. Moving over to substack in 9 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks, you'll find everything there a 10 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: lot easier to navigate, a lot more enjoyable to utilize, 11 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: and a lot more productive for us. Tonykats dot com 12 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: is the only place you need to be. So it 13 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: lists the five teams. The Detroit Lions, the Indianapolis Colts 14 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: that's where I'm at, the Cincinnati Bengals, the Baltimore Ravens, 15 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: and the Minnesota Vikings. These teams, I guess, because they 16 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: had home games, did not honor Charlie Kirk with a 17 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: moment of silence. So I want to start with a 18 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: with a basic first, I don't know. I didn't know 19 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: that other teams did honor Charlie Kirk with a moment 20 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: of silence. So it's actually a story about this Green 21 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: Bay Packers did. I guess there was a decision from 22 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: the league. I mean they did this on this is 23 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: Thursday night. The National Football League acid you please join 24 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: us in a moment of silent reflection following the murder 25 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk. The NFL condemns all violence in our communities. 26 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: It will take all of us to stop hate. Thank you. Okay, 27 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: So the Giants, Cowboys, Rams, Titans, Patriots, Doltman's forty nine Ers, Saints, 28 00:01:53,120 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: Bill's Jets, they all did, and then Panthers, Cardinal Eagles, 29 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: Chiefs they did. But yeah, so the Bengals against the Jaguars, 30 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: the Lions against the Bears, the Steelers against the Seahawks, 31 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: but the Steelers were flying the flags at half staff, 32 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: Ravens Brown's Colts, Broncos, and then Falcons Vikings. The Vikings 33 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: honored all victims of recent gun violence, including those impacted 34 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: at the Annunciation Catholic church shooting. Okay, that happened in Minnesota. 35 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: So first the question is do they have to have 36 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: a moment of silence? Allow me to be the first 37 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: one on record to say no, not at all. They 38 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: don't have to do anything at all. No one does. Now, 39 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: if the president declares flags at half staff, the standard 40 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: is to fly the flag at half staff. The president 41 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: could do this for a whole series of things. And 42 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: that's what you do. You follow the lead in that one. 43 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: And I think the places that aren't doing that that 44 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: that's not a show of defiance. That's a show ugly, crass, 45 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: nonsensical politics. And these are the people, and I think 46 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: important to note the ones who are saying, we're so 47 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: okay with people we disagree with being murdered, assassinated, slaughtered 48 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: in front of their wife and children on television and 49 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: on video, that we're not going to put a flag 50 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: at half staff. We want everybody to know how cool 51 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: we are with it. I think it's a weird thing 52 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: to be cool with. But this is what they're saying, 53 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: this is what they're doing. So that's that's that's the flag. 54 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: But I do not know if these places needed a 55 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: moment of silence. I don't know if that was necessary, 56 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: if that was something that had to be had they, 57 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: I mean the places where they had it, clearly, the 58 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: crowds took this well. I mean the Titans did it. 59 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean they put up a photo of Charlie Kirk 60 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: on the board, right. Dolphins did it as well, so 61 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: one could argue there was a marketing compar to this. 62 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: The Jets did it, and you say, to me, Tony, 63 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: that's so craven. I'm taking a look at this objectively 64 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: what it is these teams did, and then asking whether 65 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: or not it was something that had to be done, 66 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: because we saw a lot of people take a look 67 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: at moments of silence and things for George Floyd and 68 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: say what are you doing and how dare you now? 69 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: Before we get anywhere else. I am not comparing Charlie 70 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: Kirk to George Floyd. Charlie Kirk was a better man 71 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: than George Floyd every day of the week and twice 72 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Even if I disagreed with Charlie Kirk ab 73 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: out of Pacific policy or something else. Charlie Kirk did 74 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: not deserve what happened to him, and the people celebrating 75 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: his death are despicable people, and I'm glad that they've 76 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: out of themselves so I never have to pay them 77 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: any mind, and certainly would not invite them into my home. 78 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: So there are people who have had moment of silences 79 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: where you agree and where you disagree, And I do 80 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: not believe there has to be some code that says 81 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: everybody has to do this, some unwritten rule that everybody 82 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: has to do this. And not every NFL team, nor 83 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: did any NFL team have to engage a moment of silence. 84 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: But as has been discussed, every one of the teams 85 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: that I mentioned, the Detroit Lions, the Indianapolis Colts, the 86 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, the Baltimore Ravens, the Minnesota Vikings, according to 87 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: the reporting, I'd let anybody triple check they all honored 88 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: George Floyd back in twenty twenty. And now, if that 89 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: is indeed the case, I think you are more than 90 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: welcome to look at these teams and ask them what 91 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: the flying blank oh ten thousand percent? If you were 92 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: having moments of silence for George Floyd, was that league mandated? 93 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: So George Floyd got the league mandate and Charlie Kirk didn't, 94 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: or was this a team by team decision? But you 95 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: did it because you knew that you would be vilified 96 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: and very possibly your stadium and or team damaged if 97 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: you didn't and what you just you didn't worry about 98 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: what was going to happen to you on the other 99 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: side over here, or and go with me on the philosophy. 100 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: Is it that we have actually overcome the idea of 101 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: well I have to play along or go along in 102 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: order to be liked. Otherwise that we destroyed? We have 103 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: we done away with that? Have we created the level 104 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: of the political posturing exhaustion? And people are like, can 105 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: we just play football? Because that's what we're here to do. 106 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: Play football. He wasn't a politician, he wasn't in the military. 107 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: Could we just play football? Could have been in their argument. 108 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: The argument's much harder to make when you were doing it. 109 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: For George Floyd, it's a much harder argument to make. 110 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: And these are teams that are going to take some 111 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: heat for doing it. I do not support the idea 112 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: of forced profession. Are you willing to say how much 113 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: you loved fill in the blank? That's that's not That 114 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: is not what I want in the slightest I don't 115 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: want any part of that. I want to avoid that 116 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: at all costs and let people do what they're going 117 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: to do. In terms of commentaries and then let people 118 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: react and respond to it. If the response to these 119 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: teams is people don't buy their jerseys, or people don't 120 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: do this, people don't do that, don't show up to 121 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: the game, Okay, if nothing happens, nothing happens, then the 122 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: same is true the other way. You take a look 123 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: at all the companies that bent the knee and did 124 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: this for George Floyd, and that for George Floyd, and 125 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: the other for George Floyd. George Floyd wasn't a good guy. 126 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: Your choice of whether or not you want to spend 127 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: your money with them, or whether you want to attend 128 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: those events, etc. I happen to like going to NBA games. 129 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: The game in person is fantastic. I don't give good 130 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: too Holy you know, whats about Lebron James. I think 131 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: he's a jerk. I think he's a self entitled pseudo 132 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: intellectual while great court vision has no decency off the court. Well, 133 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, Tony, he started a school. I know that 134 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: he is so in the pocket of China that he 135 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: writes op eds talking about how great it is to 136 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: work with the Chinese while they oppress people, destroy Hong 137 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: kongers and keep weager Muslims in prison camps. That's what 138 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: I know. I know this guy went after Daryl Moray, 139 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: who was clearly smarter than him, and said he needed 140 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: to educate himself on China. When it was Darryl Moray, 141 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: the then general manager of the Houston Rockets, saying I 142 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: stand with Hong Kong because every rational person should have 143 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: been standing with Hong Kong, but not Lebron James. He 144 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: had to get paid. What what I mean, That's exactly 145 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: what happened. I've got the data to back me up 146 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: up there. And it's up to you whether you are 147 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: gonna watch the NBA or not watch the NBA, watch 148 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: the emmis, or don't watch the Emmys. Because they've got 149 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: this this actress, Hannah Einbeinder from the show Hacks, and 150 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: she's gonna say h f ice and free Palistine, which 151 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: she did in her acceptance speech. She wins an Emmy, 152 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: f ice and free Palestine. Sorry, I've watched a couple 153 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: episodes of the show. My wife watches the show. We're 154 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: done now. You don't get my attention, you don't get 155 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: my love. You are you? You lack to me the 156 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: properness of decency Supporting terrorists is nuts. Not approving of 157 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: everything Israel does is fine. Free Palestine is a political statement. 158 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: Saying that you want Israel destroyed. And then you say 159 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: to me, Tony, you know the actress is Jewish, And 160 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say to you, oh, I know, I know. 161 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: But liberalism rocks the brain. And I have often to 162 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: discussed how the progressive has replaced their Judaism with their liberalism. 163 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: We've seen this in many different ways across a whole 164 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: bunch of religious spectrums. It's up to us to decide 165 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: how our responses are going to go. And it may 166 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: these teams may get a bad response in terms of 167 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: boycott and things like that I wouldn't participate in, and 168 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't endorse, and I don't condone at all anything 169 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: of a violent nature. That's nutty, that's nuts, But it 170 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: is worthy of stating if indeed we've got the data 171 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: correct that if a team was all about honoring George 172 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: Floyd and isn't honoring Charlie Kirk, what changed? What changed? 173 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a difference of five years. A lot 174 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: has changed in five years, But what actually changed? What 175 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: is different? What changed your mind? What changed your your 176 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: thought process to doing these things. That's a worthwhile question. 177 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: And I don't mind these teams being asked worthwhile questions. 178 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: This is Tony Katz today