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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Best of the Fan Morning show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one seven five the Fan

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Speaker 1: Kevin I.

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Speaker 2: Was wondering about this one, and then I saw an

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Speaker 2: article in the Indianapolis Star that made me think of

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Speaker 2: you a little bit too. Dana Benbow wrote an article

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Speaker 2: today about Upland Brewing and Game Day of the Hoo's

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Speaker 2: your game day logger?

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Speaker 3: It is on fire.

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Speaker 2: It has been requested by national grocery chains in thirty

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Speaker 2: five different states.

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Speaker 3: They want big old displays.

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Speaker 2: On the end of aisles. They can't keep enough of it.

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Speaker 2: They're brewing it as fast as they can. Now they're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to wait for new stuff to come in

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Speaker 2: ever since. Kurt Signetti talked about this and mentioned that

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Speaker 2: it's his favorite the game day thing. Who's your game

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Speaker 2: day lagger? They can't keep it on the shelves. Man.

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Speaker 4: I am more of a dragonfly individual from the Upland

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Speaker 4: crew Matty Bowen that likes the Champagne velvet from Upland.

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Speaker 4: We venture to the forty ninethe College one quite often,

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Speaker 4: great great spot. So yeah, Kurt Signetti, who's your game

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Speaker 4: day Logger? He mentioned that in the postgame press conference

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Speaker 4: what couple. What do we know about nine days removed

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Speaker 4: from it all? He made it clear. Ooon beer right,

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Speaker 4: that's a great great straw, said me the other night.

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Speaker 4: I'm going one drink. If I go a second, I

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Speaker 4: might be napping on you.

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Speaker 2: Well, oh, job knows limitations.

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Speaker 4: I would have been fine. There was a lot of

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Speaker 4: room inside that arena on Monday night or Tuesday night.

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Speaker 4: He easily could have napped if you would like. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if Ertzignetti had a Who's Your Game day

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Speaker 4: logger or two? But did you catches shot at that

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Speaker 4: school up in West Lafayette?

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Speaker 3: Oh, it was Savage.

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Speaker 4: Now with Savage, we haven't had a Signetti drop the

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Speaker 4: mic in a while. I think in the Signetti world

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Speaker 4: of lingo, he's really behaved quite well.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: I was kind of hoping we'd get one of those

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Speaker 4: Saturday at the celebration. I don't know if it was

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Speaker 4: too cold. Haircut looked great by the way for Kurtzignetti,

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Speaker 4: very high and tight there. We didn't really get one,

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Speaker 4: I thought in Miami. Unless I'm missing something there, you know,

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Speaker 4: postgame or you know, even the day after. But uh,

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Speaker 4: it's Caleb. It's a little hard to maybe decipher, So

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Speaker 4: hopefully the audio will come across well, because Kurtzignetti is

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Speaker 4: like a facetiming here. This is with Stanford Steve, who

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Speaker 4: we see on college game Day, of course, and Stanford

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Speaker 4: Steve references the bucket and Mark Dial wanted to bring

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Speaker 4: the bucket out onto the floor the other night, and

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Speaker 4: Kurtzignetti was like, dude, we won the national title. We

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Speaker 4: don't need to bring the bucket out onto the court here.

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Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden the score total against

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Speaker 4: Perdue got brought up, and Kurtzignetti had quite the joke today.

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Speaker 6: You know, one of our one of the guys that's

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Speaker 6: been here a long time, Mark Deal, you know, he's

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Speaker 6: been here since like nineteen sixty five. I probably he

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Speaker 6: actually brought the uh, the bucket with them, you know,

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Speaker 6: to bring out with as Mark quill be on that.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 6: You know, we're just taking the national.

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Speaker 5: One. You beat that team two years?

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Speaker 6: What's that you beat this one hundred twenty two to

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Speaker 6: three in two years?

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Speaker 2: You beat them.

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Speaker 6: They don't need to see the bucket.

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Speaker 4: They know here.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear you say it again. What's that, Kevin?

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Speaker 4: What's that you say, Caleb, maybe just that last part

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Speaker 4: again again. It's a little He asks Stanford Steve to

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Speaker 4: repeat the score against Purdue from the last two years.

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Speaker 6: What's that You beat them one hundred twenty one hundred

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Speaker 6: and twenty two to three in two years. You beat them.

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Speaker 6: They don't need to see the bucket.

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Speaker 2: They know here. I want to hear you say it again.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted you to hear it. I wanted to

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Speaker 2: hear you say it again. That's all.

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Speaker 4: It's really funny.

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Speaker 3: It's savage the right word though, that is.

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Speaker 7: But I just feel so bad for Purdue fans right now,

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Speaker 7: Like you gotta if you're a Purdue fan, like you

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Speaker 7: just gotta wait, you gotta wait. You gotta see it through.

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Speaker 7: It's all gonna be worth it. But you are. You

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Speaker 7: are getting dragged right now.

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Speaker 4: I actually haven't. He looked outside.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: I mean Jesus, I mean, I don't know what we're

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Speaker 2: Kevin. I actually have a Purdue fan, like premiere decades

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Speaker 2: long fan update, our own beloved Todd Meyer, who I

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Speaker 2: love and respect, and I learned something new about produce

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Speaker 2: sports all the time when I talk to him, because

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Speaker 2: he's that into it and he's always willing to share stuff.

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Speaker 2: He has gone on strike. He will not watch this

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Speaker 2: Purdue basketball team again. He thinks he thinks that there's

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Speaker 2: something going on behind the scenes that nobody's talking about.

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Speaker 4: He just knows that this team juice here he something wrong.

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Speaker 4: But he is Paul George George Hilly from back in

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Speaker 4: the day.

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Speaker 2: So further notice, he announced to a Scotty Jay and

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Speaker 2: I yesterday that he is on strike against the basketball team.

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Speaker 2: There's a guy who never misses a second of anything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds like a sorry life. Brother. I'm not

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Speaker 4: gonna lie. I mean here, I am consuming forty minutes

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Speaker 4: at our name basketball, my entire life on it.

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Speaker 2: One to talk.

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Speaker 4: Are we really there with? Are we that worried?

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Speaker 7: I I I don't think this happens to a lot

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Speaker 7: of college basketball teams around the country.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was trying to tell him. I was

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Speaker 2: trying to talk him off the led yesterday.

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Speaker 8: Caleb and I understand they're a veteran team.

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Speaker 7: I understand that you know, Braden Smith, let your lawyer

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Speaker 7: have been there for a really long time. But but

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Speaker 7: this this is what college basketball is, man. Every team

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Speaker 7: goes through it in some capacity, and yes it was

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Speaker 7: a rough week, but they saw a lot of games

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Speaker 7: left where if you beat you beat Illinois Michigan, when

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Speaker 7: you play them again, like you got a chance to

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Speaker 7: kind of turn this back around.

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Speaker 4: So it happens this from listen to Ryan calls himself

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Speaker 4: a big Burdue fan. Please pass along to Todd Meyer

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Speaker 4: that he's a huge and I'll let you wow fill

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Speaker 4: in the blank there.

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Speaker 2: I think I think you got to give him some grace.

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Speaker 2: He's still very frustrated.

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Speaker 4: He's very frustrated, and he just expects more.

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Speaker 5: Or what are they up?

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Speaker 4: Five on Illinois? The final media time out of six

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Speaker 4: on UCLT me, what are you gonna do? Dial up

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Speaker 4: bury otum highlights and Ryan Walter's highlights.

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Speaker 2: I think he's just waiting.

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Speaker 3: Like many diehard Purdue fans.

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Speaker 2: I think he's still going through the stages of grief

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Speaker 2: with Indiana winning a national championship, I think he's still

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Speaker 2: going through that. And then you throw in this losing

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Speaker 2: streak where Purdue has been going in fits and starts

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Speaker 2: and hasn't quite looked like a top fourteen that we

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Speaker 2: all thought they were going to be this year. I

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Speaker 2: think he's just he's in his fields right now, and

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Speaker 2: I get it, and I think he should get a

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Speaker 2: little grace for that. Ok, lib am I wrong on that?

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 8: I don't think you're wrong.

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Speaker 5: Stop.

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Speaker 4: Just because he's the boss doesn't mean you gotta get

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Speaker 4: I'll be.

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Speaker 7: Honest, That's exactly why I'm saying this. But like, look, man,

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Speaker 7: like sports fandom. Sports fandom just went right, basketball fandom.

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Speaker 8: You know again, I think this is just what you

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Speaker 8: go through.

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Speaker 7: And I'm sure he'll be back around once the Big

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Speaker 7: Ten Tournament comes around, which I am.

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Speaker 8: I am curious where where.

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Speaker 7: That's gonna shake out, and where they're gonna be seated

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Speaker 7: in that, and just kind of where they'll be seated

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Speaker 7: in the tournament.

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Speaker 8: They got a lot of quality games left, they got chances.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I would say, in all seriousness, like

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Speaker 4: that is the one item right now. You know that,

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Speaker 4: you know pretty obviously he's one Big ten titles, and

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Speaker 4: you know they've made runs of the Big Ten Tournament

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Speaker 4: here in the Painter Era, probably more than any other team.

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Speaker 4: But you know, from a seeding standpoint, I do think

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Speaker 4: that's worth bringing up. You know, are you on a

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Speaker 4: route that is not conducive to necessarily be in within

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Speaker 4: I mean they've you know, benefit obviously two years ago

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Speaker 4: and near the one seed. You're in Detroit for the

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Speaker 4: first two rounds. I think they were here. If I'm

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Speaker 4: not mistaken for the first two rounds in Detroit, I

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Speaker 4: should have said for the Sweet sixteen Elite eight. You know,

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Speaker 4: if this recent trend becomes more of a thing in

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Speaker 4: February than that type of pathway, probably not gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: You're hopping on a plane trying to get back to

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Speaker 4: Indy for the final four here. So yeah, that sounded

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Speaker 4: a little.

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Speaker 2: He'll bounce back, He'll be ready to go this week.

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Speaker 4: It sounded like deep in the message boards, you know.

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Speaker 2: You know, he'll be watching the Maryland game as soon

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Speaker 2: as this starts on Saturday.

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Speaker 7: He's just going, Well, if they don't win that, then

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Speaker 7: we can have another conversation.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Maryland could beat US three.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that's that's got to be a muscle.

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Speaker 2: Well if we if we had JMB, then it's over. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we had jamb and James and it's over with US three.

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Speaker 2: That's right right there.

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Speaker 8: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk a little football, Kevin, You and I had

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Speaker 2: discussed it briefly. Yesterday, ESPN released their their list of

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Speaker 2: top fifty NFL free agents this year. Among them, there

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Speaker 2: were three or four edge guys within that fifty, some

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Speaker 2: of the big names that you know, and then are

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Speaker 2: there are other options like I don't know, would the

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Speaker 2: Raiders actually trade Max Crosby things of that nature. But

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Speaker 2: if you're the Colts, knowing where they're at with the

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Speaker 2: salary cap and that they'd have to move some things

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Speaker 2: to whatever, do we rely on Chris ballor to try

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Speaker 2: and go get an edge rusher in the draft or

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Speaker 2: are we just going to have to bring in somebody

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Speaker 2: who's demonstrated the ability over time in the National Football

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Speaker 4: Oh, I think it has to be somebody that's already

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Speaker 4: in the league. I mean, you want to talk about

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Speaker 4: the Ballard hit rate with pass rushers, particularly ones after

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Speaker 4: round one, and yeah, I'm not Yeah, I'm not betting

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Speaker 4: on that. I guess I could use my dad's old

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Speaker 4: quote that he would always tell me of, you know whatever,

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Speaker 4: the blind squirrel finds a nut in the forest every

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Speaker 4: once in a while. So I yeah, I'm not I'm

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Speaker 4: not banking on that you know, I'd be betting with

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Speaker 4: your money there, So yeah, I think again this gets

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Speaker 4: into the difficulty of the off season of without a

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Speaker 4: first round pick, A huge, huge, huge amount of that

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Speaker 4: cap space has got to go to your quarterback and

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Speaker 4: you're white out Alex Pearson, Daniel Jones. How do you maneuver?

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Speaker 4: You know, how do you do some of the other

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Speaker 4: things there? So those would be questions that I would have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and another guy that's going to be really sought

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Speaker 4: He was big for the Chargers, and he got traded

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Speaker 8: The team in this city.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's a lot of work to be done

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Speaker 4: You may have started something here with this IU Purdue

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Speaker 4: In a sweet sixteen loss, Man now fordw fans want

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Speaker 3: I think Kurt Signetti is the guy that lit the fuse.

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Speaker 8: I think we're pouring gasoline on the fire in here too.

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Speaker 4: So whatever that pathetic nature of Todd Meyer not watching

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Speaker 2: He's good, Todd's good.

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Speaker 2: I just know Purdue fans in general, they're going through it.

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Speaker 3: But they'll I I still care to scratcher back.

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Speaker 2: I still think that that that team has plenty of juice.

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Speaker 4: defensive starters. I don't see that and if you're going

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Speaker 4: to sit here and saying, well, your third round pick

442
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Speaker 4: can come in and start, Well, your fourth round pick

443
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Speaker 4: can come and start. Jeff named the second best rookie

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Speaker 4: the Colts had this season.

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Speaker 2: That would have been a guy that got hurt very

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Speaker 2: early on.

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Speaker 3: After Tyler Warren. There wasn't a lot happening, wasn't there?

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Speaker 5: Who was it?

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Speaker 2: Who am I missing?

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Speaker 4: Caleb Zuverer? How many games did you pla for the

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Speaker 4: Colts this year?

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Speaker 2: Zero?

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Speaker 4: How many sacks of JC twey Moloile have as a

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Speaker 4: second round.

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Speaker 8: Thing, I'm gonna guess zero.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's a dude that produced at a high

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Speaker 4: level for the best college football program in Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: And so that's where I'm getting at. It's like banking

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Speaker 4: on all these rookies and draft picks to come in here.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, you bring up justin Wally. You know you

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Speaker 4: were hoping that. Obviously Wally, you know, doesn't tear as

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Speaker 4: a cl but you know, still, it's just banking on

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Speaker 4: these rookie. If I literally said who the second best

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Speaker 4: rookie for the Colt Colts was last year, you could

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Speaker 4: make a case it was Riley Leonard.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say is like, I

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Speaker 7: think that's the only answer, because otherwise it's who Jalen traffic.

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Speaker 4: Jalen Travis would be the only other one that I

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Speaker 4: would even ponder. So again, that's where you know, Ballard

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Speaker 4: Dowd played that a few weeks back of like, how

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Speaker 4: do you operate an off season without a first round pick?

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Speaker 4: You know, he pointed to like past history, you know,

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Speaker 4: we've had pretty good off seasons without it. We can

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Speaker 4: maybe get more into that here in the coming days

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Speaker 4: and weeks. I would push back on that. I think

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Speaker 4: it's a very mixed bag, and honestly, I think that's

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Speaker 4: a compliment to call it a mixed bag. But that's

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Speaker 4: what makes this offseason, I think, different than last year.

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Speaker 4: I think last year I felt pretty confident they would

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Speaker 4: spend on outside free agents and do things differently, and

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Speaker 4: they did that this offseason. I'm a little unsure on

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Speaker 4: exactly how they'll retool the defense. They say they want to,

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Speaker 4: and I agree they need to, but again, the how

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Speaker 4: of it, I think is what makes this offseason an

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Speaker 4: unknown all.

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Speaker 2: Right, coming up in a moment, the Pacers get a

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Speaker 2: big comfort behind win last night at the Fieldhouse. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk a little bit more about that and continue always

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Speaker 2: talking about the NFL and the Coats as we roll

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Speaker 2: on on ninety three to five and one seven to

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Speaker 2: five the fan, Kevin Bow, Will you read that that

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Speaker 2: little weather screen for me? Real quick? What does that say?

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Speaker 2: Does that seem right?

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Speaker 4: Negative?

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Speaker 9: Two?

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Speaker 4: Am I reading that right?

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Speaker 2: Negative?

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Speaker 3: Two degrees outside?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 3: That's just wrong? It just feels wrong, doesn't it? My goodness?

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Speaker 2: Warm today whatever you're doing, although it did seem like

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Speaker 2: the streets are drying out a little bit, but you

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Speaker 2: never know. The ice is everywhere, so keep that in

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Speaker 2: mind as always. You know what to do. You've driven

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Speaker 2: in this before. In the meantime, nice nice win for

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Speaker 2: the Indiana Pacers last night at the field House. They

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Speaker 2: came from fourteen behind in the fourth quarter to knock

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Speaker 2: off the Chicago Bulls, a team they seem to do

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Speaker 2: well against this year. And here to tell us more

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Speaker 2: about that and tell us what lies ahead over the

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Speaker 2: next two three weeks for the Indiana Pacers. Man who

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Speaker 2: covers them every night on the Fieldhouse Files, our good

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Speaker 2: friend Scott Agnes joins us on the Payless Liquers hotline.

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Speaker 2: I hope it's warm in your apartment, because man, I

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Speaker 2: feel bad for anybody who may lose power or anything

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Speaker 2: like that or has to walk outside and Scott, I

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Speaker 2: just want you to be safe and warm. That's my

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Speaker 2: job today is keeping everybody safe and warm and happy.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to uplift Purdue fans. Keep you guys warm,

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Speaker 2: keep everybody in the sunshine today. Okay with that, I.

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Speaker 9: Do, I am, I appreciate it, but I agree these

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Speaker 9: temperatures are observed. I can't remember a run like this

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Speaker 9: in my lifetime here in Central Indiana at all.

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Speaker 2: So then how about the run for the Pacers last

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Speaker 2: night with about seven minutes to go? Do we see

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Speaker 2: that coming?

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Speaker 9: Not particularly given this group, right, like all the different

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Speaker 9: things that they have been through and such. But what

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Speaker 9: I mean when you do factor it, look last year,

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Speaker 9: this is what their seasons were made of. Like, they

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Speaker 9: just had some kind of spirit and fight every single

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Speaker 9: game that they were able to make a run out

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Speaker 9: of it. And that's what made the end of their

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Speaker 9: season so magical. But to me, it was just so

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Speaker 9: many different guys playing their role that stood out to me.

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Speaker 9: No one more than anyone you know, jumped out or

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Speaker 9: stood out, I would say, but you know, Matheren got

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Speaker 9: them started in that third quarter, and then they hunkered

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Speaker 9: down there in the fourth and made something of it

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Speaker 9: with that big eighteen to four run to close in

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Speaker 9: a game they really never really let until the very end.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't lead until a final minute there after a

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Speaker 4: brief lead in the first quarter. Or Scott agnesfield House

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Speaker 4: files you can find is excellent Workpacers and Fever coverage

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Speaker 4: from Scott's. Okay, let's talk about the news of the

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Speaker 4: day yesterday in the NBA and Yiannis and potentially a trade.

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Speaker 4: We are now seven days away, a week from today

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Speaker 4: from the NBA trade deadline. Do you think league wide

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Speaker 4: will kind of be in a frozen state? I guess

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Speaker 4: whether enter your punt here until the jannist domino falls

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Speaker 4: or doesn't fall.

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Speaker 9: I think to some extent those that are big game punting,

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Speaker 9: that does make sense.

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Speaker 5: But those like the Pacers that need to go.

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Speaker 9: Get a center or things like that, I don't know

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Speaker 9: how much of a direct impact that couldn't necessarily have.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, absolutely, if you're one of those main teams

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Speaker 9: and you're interested in trying to play play in that

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Speaker 9: game with Yannis.

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Speaker 5: That's going to have some kind of impact, But I don't.

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Speaker 9: Think it's a given that he's going to be traded

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Speaker 9: by this trade deadline. Certainly, all indications are that that.

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Speaker 5: Relationship is getting towards the end.

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Speaker 9: But if I'm Milwaukee there, I'm sitting back and weighing

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Speaker 9: my options, and maybe it'd be better to get to

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Speaker 9: the summer when you have more know how of exactly

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Speaker 9: what picks would look like and those sort of things.

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Speaker 9: So John Horst has his handsful there in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 4: Scott, I know you like hypothetical trades as much as

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Speaker 4: the weather outside, so bear with me here a week

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Speaker 4: before the trade deadline. But we had a listener bring

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Speaker 4: up earlier in the show a potential trade of Pascal

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Speaker 4: Siakam Benedict Matheren the twenty twenty six first round pick

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Speaker 4: of the Pacers for Jannis. If you presented that trade

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Speaker 4: to the Pacers, what do you think their response would be.

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Speaker 9: I think it would be very difficult for them to

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Speaker 9: part with Pascal given what he's done. But I think

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Speaker 9: you do that one hundred times out of one hundred,

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Speaker 9: how little that is, in my opinion, I think you're

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Speaker 9: going to see teams move a lot of apps us

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Speaker 9: to go and get Yannis, so one of a kind.

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Speaker 5: Type of players. So if it was just that, I

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Speaker 5: think you would jump at.

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Speaker 4: It, even at the age of thirty two.

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Speaker 9: I mean, look, Lebron's playing at forty one, Like if

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Speaker 9: you can get five good years at Yanni's which is

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Speaker 9: no reason to think that. Yeah, I mean Pascal himself

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Speaker 9: is like thirty one right now, by the way, and

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Speaker 9: they have no Yeah, I would have no urgency or

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Speaker 9: interest in trading Pascal.

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Speaker 5: But when it's just those and this hypothetical trade, yeah,

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Speaker 5: you're one hundred percent doing that.

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Speaker 2: Now we're doing hypotheticals. But here's the other part of

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Speaker 2: it too. Let's say that the Pacers had pretty much

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Speaker 2: everything that the Bucks wanted. Are they trading Yannis to

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Speaker 2: the Indiana Pacers within the division?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't imagine it.

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Speaker 9: Like tradition, traditionally you'd say no, like you try to,

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Speaker 9: you would send you know, Milwaukee would want to move

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Speaker 9: on from you, honest and send him out west, right,

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Speaker 9: so you see him just once a year in Milwaukee

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Speaker 9: and certain things like that. But I think it's going

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Speaker 9: to come down to the trade package. And also so

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Speaker 9: here's the other underlying thing in all this. When you're

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Speaker 9: a superstar at this talent, you have some say and

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Speaker 9: so all signals from Janna seem to be pointed towards

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Speaker 9: New York. Now, will they come through and keep them

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Speaker 9: in conference and such? We'll see, But yeah, you're totally right, Jef.

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Speaker 9: Generally no, you send them out to a different conference.

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Speaker 9: In fact, so you see.

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Speaker 4: Him less a man that is best in the glory

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Speaker 4: of the IU athletic run. Here he is, Scott Agnes.

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Speaker 4: He's with us here on the payless liquors hotline. Okay, Scott.

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Speaker 4: One more in the trade front from me. Bendick Matherd

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Speaker 4: and Jarris Walker are seemingly the two names we've discussed

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Speaker 4: the most mathering more than Walker. Certainly. Is there anyone

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Speaker 4: else on this roster we haven't discussed that, you're curious

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Speaker 4: about a week from today. Again, from a contract expiring standpoint,

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's anybody that jumps.

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Speaker 3: Off the page.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know if the center position has really

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Speaker 4: done much here fifty games into the season.

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Speaker 2: TJ.

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Speaker 4: McConnell and Obi Toppen, people have debated those contracts, But

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Speaker 4: anyone else non matherin non walker division.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right now, not really.

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Speaker 9: It'll obviously there would be an impact if they did

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Speaker 9: go out and do something at that center spot, because

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Speaker 9: then you wouldn't need an additional one. Although Tony Bradley's

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Speaker 9: second ten day contract is now finalized and fan should know,

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Speaker 9: you can't sign a third ten day contract with the

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Speaker 9: same team in a season, so they would have to

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Speaker 9: sign him to a more of a standard type deal

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Speaker 9: if they choose to bring him back here. But no,

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Speaker 9: there's no obvious names or anything like that. I think

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Speaker 9: it would be all the matter if they're able to

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Speaker 9: upgrade a position and what level of assets it would take.

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Speaker 9: But I don't see McConnell going anywhere. I do not

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Speaker 9: see Topping going anywhere for example. No, yeah, it's right now,

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Speaker 9: as you know as well as anyone. It's rumor central

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Speaker 9: on who's talking to who, And I'm just waiting Kevin

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Speaker 9: for the tweet that you know the Milwaukee Bucks are

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Speaker 9: fielding phone calls there's a significant interest in this player.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, kidding like.

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Speaker 9: That general tweet is usually sent out there by somebody talking.

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Speaker 2: To Scott agnesfield House files here on the payless Liquors

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Speaker 2: Hotline the Fan Morning Show. We look at the rest

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Speaker 2: of the of the division and specifically the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 2: Is there a true contender to any of the top

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Speaker 2: two or three teams in the West right now?

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Speaker 9: I don't think when you compare to the West, No,

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Speaker 9: not at all. New York could get hot could be

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Speaker 9: that team if they can, you know, stay injury free.

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Speaker 9: That's something that's really hampered them a lot in the last.

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Speaker 5: Year or two. Boston, we know what kind of.

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Speaker 9: Fight they could provide, but without Tatum, realistically, I don't

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Speaker 9: see it.

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Speaker 5: The droits in that first year.

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Speaker 9: So I see them winning a series or two, but

661
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Speaker 9: this being their learning here for a big.

662
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Speaker 5: Run potentially next season.

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Speaker 9: And then Cleveland continues to be a disappointment with Philadelphia

664
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Speaker 9: to me, and so no, I do not see a

665
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Speaker 9: major contender out in the East. I think it's Oklahoma

666
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Speaker 9: City and then the field.

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Speaker 2: Last thing too. Any thoughts on Caitlin Clark getting ready

668
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Speaker 2: to make her appearance on Basketball Night in America on

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Speaker 2: NBC coming up on Sunday.

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Speaker 9: I do tons of them, but from her standpoint, I

671
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Speaker 9: would I'm a little bit surprised, only because obviously she

672
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Speaker 9: has a pick of whatever she wants, right like which

673
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Speaker 9: TV network would not want her? But I think she

674
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Speaker 9: sees this position with NBC, a network that's just taking

675
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Speaker 9: over some NBA and WNBA rights, and you know, this

676
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Speaker 9: gives her an opportunity for a low commitment, big opportunity,

677
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Speaker 9: just like kind of Michael Jordan had, but in a

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Speaker 9: different way. The only unique challenging aspect, Jeff, I see is.

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Speaker 5: When you're out doing a road show, as you know

680
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Speaker 5: very well.

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Speaker 9: That's very unique and can be challenging if you got

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Speaker 9: all these people bothering you or yelling at you like

683
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Speaker 9: she might hear at Madison Square Garden. But to get

684
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Speaker 9: into TV, this will be easy to talk on set,

685
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Speaker 9: to make conversation, to talk ball.

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Speaker 5: I think she'll do phenomenally well.

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Speaker 9: She's better than some of these players that are thirty

688
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Speaker 9: five and forty and she just turned twenty four this week.

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Speaker 2: I ask you this with my fever hat on this morning,

690
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Speaker 2: what are the chances at this point in time, as

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Speaker 2: you see it, that we have a WNBA season that

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Speaker 2: starts on time.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we're getting in my opinion, Jeff, I think we're

694
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Speaker 9: getting to the point here where you have like a

695
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Speaker 9: couple more weeks and then it is danger zone. I

696
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Speaker 9: think we're less than one hundred days out from the

697
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Speaker 9: schedule that they have already put out here, and there

698
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Speaker 9: seems to be no progress, and the WNBA has not

699
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Speaker 9: gone back to the players Association for more conversation. At

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Speaker 9: some point they just got to be locked in a

701
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Speaker 9: room for an extended weekend and figure this out or

702
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Speaker 9: else there's going to be a lot of contingency plans.

703
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Speaker 9: So right now, I would say you're getting in high

704
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Speaker 9: risk mode of being delayed.

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Speaker 2: All right, buddy, as always, great info, Thanks for spending

706
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Speaker 2: time with us, putting up with my nonsense, and we'll

707
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Speaker 2: talk to you soon.

708
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, you got there.

709
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Speaker 2: You go. Scott Agnes on the Payless Liquors Hotline right there,

710
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: a little gut punch when he was talking about the

711
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Speaker 2: Cleveland Cavaliers.

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Speaker 9: There.

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Speaker 3: I saw you visibly kind of recoil back there.

714
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Speaker 2: I nodded, I nodded along.

715
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Speaker 8: It has been a disappointing season. He's right.

716
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Speaker 4: I don't know if Caleb is messing around the pole,

717
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Speaker 4: but it's not exactly sixty forty, but pretty close so far.

718
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Speaker 4: Caleb put this poll out, would you trade Pascal Siakam

719
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Speaker 4: Benedict Matheren and that twenty twenty six first round pick

720
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Speaker 4: for Jiannis. I believe Scott said one hundred times out

721
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Speaker 4: of one hundred he did would do it. Pacers fans

722
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Speaker 4: not in that boat at all, right now, seventy percent

723
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Speaker 4: saying no. And again I think some of the stems

724
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Speaker 4: from Jannis.

725
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Speaker 2: Is like.

726
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Speaker 4: You're too close to the situation, Like if Jannis played

727
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Speaker 4: for the Trailblazers and did everything he's done with the

728
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 4: Trailblazers and like he had whatever beef with the yeah,

729
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Speaker 4: Sacramento Kings, you know, and their version of John Halliburton.

730
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Speaker 4: I don't know if Pacers fans would be that demonstra

731
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Speaker 4: with the poll, but you know, and we should mention.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you are looking at potentially top five,

733
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Speaker 4: top ten picks. I don't know if that's influenced because

734
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Speaker 4: some people could look at and say, hey, Mattherin might

735
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Speaker 4: walk Anyways, Siakam is the same age as Jannis is

736
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Speaker 4: Scott brought up. You know, are you really looking at

737
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Speaker 4: just that dangling carrot of a top five top ten pick?

738
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Speaker 7: By the way, I plugged it in trade machine because

739
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Speaker 7: I know the NBA salaries can be Muggy and the rules.

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Speaker 4: It works, Oh it it works.

741
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Speaker 8: So we're we're good there, all right.

742
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Speaker 4: We're cooking with a little bit of grease.

743
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Speaker 2: Look, people try to put those trades together all the time.

744
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Speaker 2: You just came up with that off the top of

745
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Speaker 2: your head and it plugs right into the trade.

746
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Speaker 4: All credit to Matt. Listener, Matt, he's the one that

747
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Speaker 4: chimed in.

748
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Speaker 2: Maybe Matt's been playing around with that trade machine for

749
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Speaker 2: a while, right, all right, coming up in a few minutes,

750
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Speaker 2: we'll also talk football with Zach Kiefer, the athletic. That'll

751
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: be exciting, and see what he's up to, because he's

752
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: always up to he's always working on some amazing piece.

753
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Speaker 2: We'll find out what he's up to these days, and

754
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Speaker 2: we'll get i'm your comments and feedback at two three

755
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Speaker 2: nine ten seventy. In a moment, it's The Fan Morning

756
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Speaker 2: Show ninety three five one seven five The Fan.

757
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Speaker 3: Ah, this one takes me way back.

758
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 2: Caleb Foreigner Urgent, This song with this this album was

759
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: on repeat when I was a kid. Good stuff. I

760
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 2: don't know if that makes me really really old or

761
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 2: what that makes Kevin's just.

762
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Speaker 4: Laughing at me over there, how you know this morning

763
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Speaker 4: you were you were pumped up there.

764
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Speaker 2: I was, man, And I'll keep a lot of that

765
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Speaker 2: to myself, probably right now too, because we got bigger,

766
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: better things to do, do we not, Caleb Zuver, We're

767
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: in a momentarily going to be talking to our good

768
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Speaker 2: friend Zach Keefer. He writes for the Athletic, covers the

769
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Speaker 2: Colts and really general stuff over there. You want to

770
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Speaker 2: talk about a tremendously gifted writer. We are blessed. Not

771
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Speaker 2: only do have had Zach Keifer in this market for

772
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Speaker 2: a long long time, but he's he is throwback complete,

773
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 2: like he'd fit right in in the old glory days

774
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Speaker 2: of sports Illustrated Kevin.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I believe leave he will be off to

776
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 4: the Winter Olympics coming up here.

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00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: Wow, So you want.

778
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Speaker 4: To talk about what the Athletic thinks of him? So

779
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 4: he's dropped his kids off, he's going to join us

780
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 4: here in a few minutes. But yeah, and I also

781
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 4: want to talk to colto Zach. You know, I think

782
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 4: he always is a nice person to have. He's still

783
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Speaker 4: in the NFL beat and a nice person to have

784
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Speaker 4: when you kind of look back on some of this

785
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 4: ballad ten year but yeah, can you imagine covering the Olympics.

786
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Speaker 4: We're in Italy.

787
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 2: Correct, I've covered one Winter Olympics that was assault, like

788
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Speaker 2: seven games in twenty two thousand and two.

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Speaker 7: Do you guys have a favorite Winter Olympics sport to watch?

790
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Speaker 7: Because I have one. It's curling. I learned watching curling.

791
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Speaker 8: I think it's.

792
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Speaker 7: Great and I feel like that's what they always put

793
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Speaker 7: on in the early morning, like I remember, I think

794
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Speaker 7: it was in twenty fourteen, the Soshi Olympics.

795
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Speaker 8: I remember that they'd put that on. I'd be getting

796
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Speaker 8: ready for school instead of Sports Center. For those two

797
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Speaker 8: weeks it was it was curling I was watching.

798
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Speaker 4: I'll never forget being at a bat that party in

799
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Speaker 4: Vegas and it was we walked, we landed, walked into

800
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Speaker 4: the sports book and it might have been was soci eighteen.

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Speaker 8: I thought it was fourteen fourteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that sounds right. And now you say that

803
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 4: that adds up to it was morning hockey and it

804
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 4: was USA versus Canada's awesome, and the sports book was

805
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Speaker 4: just rocket And you know, I don't I mean, I

806
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 4: didn't grow up in a hockey climate. I mean, you know,

807
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 4: I've lived here, my whole life, so like, I don't

808
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 4: fall the NHL. So watching everyone react was like, damn,

809
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 4: this is awesome. So now I'm kind of like all in.

810
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 4: Now I'm like every Winter Olympics, I'm like, are the

811
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 4: NHL guys playing? Okay? They are all right, you know,

812
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 4: let's go. And so that's what I'm written for. I'm

813
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Speaker 4: rooting for USA Canadian gold medal match.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you this, one of the single greatest

815
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Speaker 2: sporting events I've ever attended was the two thousand and

816
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Speaker 2: two gold medal hockey game between Canada and the United States.

817
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Speaker 3: And what's special about hockey.

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Speaker 2: In the Olympics. It's it's you know, in basketball, we

819
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Speaker 2: have the best players in the world represent their countries,

820
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: but the United States is generally overwhelmingly a favor to

821
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Speaker 2: Occasionally Spain, Brazil, somebody like that pops up one of

822
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: the European countries. But for the most part, when you

823
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Speaker 2: talk about the top five or six countries in the

824
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: Olympics for hockey, you have all star teams right from

825
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: the National Hockey League and it's intense. Imagine all star

826
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Speaker 2: teams playing it like it's Game seven of the Stanley

827
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Speaker 2: Cup Final.

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Speaker 4: We're starting to inch close to that in basketball, Frank

829
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 4: getting better, you know it is. I mean, look at

830
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Speaker 4: the USA's run. I mean remember that Serbia fourth quarter

831
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Speaker 4: against them. I mean that was on the break. You know,

832
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 4: the gold medal game against France, Curry saved, and you

833
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 4: know Canada with Shay, you know, they weren't even in

834
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Speaker 4: the semi final round. So you know, maybe the twenty

835
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Speaker 4: eight Olympics, when you get there in La, you know

836
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Speaker 4: it'll be close to that. But yeah, I've grown to

837
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Speaker 4: get behind that. And I love the movie Cool Runnings.

838
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Speaker 4: I want to lot tonight. So I'm going to make

839
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 4: for Caleb Zuber on that one to answer his question.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen Cool Runnings? Caleb? We got to get

841
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: into that movie. I don't think so that's class great

842
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: stuff right there. But now you bring up a great point.

843
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 2: The Winter Olympics and on hockey, I think is as

844
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Speaker 2: good as it gets. That's fantastic stuff.

845
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Speaker 4: The NHLers are playing, Yeah.

846
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Speaker 3: They take a break from the regular season cinema.

847
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 4: The WNBA is going to do a break this year

848
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Speaker 4: for the World Cup, which I found interesting interesting, and

849
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 4: I assume that would be Caitlin Clark potentially with.

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Speaker 2: We are joined now by the aforementioned Zach Kiefer of

851
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: the Athletic on the Payless Liquors hotline. Zach, we were

852
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 2: just talking about some of our favorite sports and games

853
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: for the Winter Olympics, says you get ready to go

854
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Speaker 2: cover that for the Athletic.

855
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Speaker 3: What what are you most looking forward to?

856
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: Do you think?

857
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Speaker 5: I'm going to tell you what.

858
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Speaker 1: Watching these guys go down these hills, the skiers, the

859
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: alpine tiers, at about seventy seventy five miles an hour,

860
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Speaker 1: it's going to be pretty surreal. As one of them

861
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: told me, I kind of told them my backstory and

862
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: how I covered the NFL, and he said, yeah, we

863
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: suffered the same injuries. The difference is I'm the one

864
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: doing it to myself. In football, someone's usually hitting me

865
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Speaker 1: when I get hit.

866
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Speaker 4: Now, I thought you were covering the Olympics when I

867
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Speaker 4: saw you from afar the old Butler Hill with your

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Speaker 4: girls the other day. Can we can we can we

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Speaker 4: get that as a sport here.

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Speaker 1: Zach, I was gonna say that it's pretty great, and

871
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Speaker 1: living pretty close to the Butler Hill, and you know,

872
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Speaker 1: one of the purses they gave me a little money

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Speaker 1: to spend on gear like because I'm in the mountains

874
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Speaker 1: for three weeks and so having that gear for this

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Speaker 1: snowmageddon that we're in right now has been really nice.

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Speaker 5: I wore the fancy food there. You go to the

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Speaker 5: Butler Bowl the other.

878
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 4: Day before we you know, shift gears to more of

879
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 4: the daily of football. In a little bit of colts talk,

880
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 4: I do want to nerd out over this this Issignon.

881
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 4: I think it's awesome. I'm so thrilled that the that

882
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 4: the athletic is sitting you over there well well deserved.

883
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 4: When you leave, how long you over there? What do

884
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 4: you cover and give us a whole alay of the land.

885
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 4: I've never been close to an Olympics.

886
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely wasn't expecting this. I leave on Wednesday,

887
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: and I will be there basically through the first or

888
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: second day of the NFL Combine, So I'm gone the

889
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: entire month of February. The games are in Milan, Courtina,

890
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: but I'm actually in a small town in the northern

891
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: part of Italy called Bormeo Lavigno. I'm covering skiing and snowboarding.

892
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: So the names you're going to recognize are Lindsay vaugh

893
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: Chloe Kim Mikayla Schiffer, and Ryan Cochran Siegel. Maybe the

894
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: Indie native is Nick Yepper. Sure, I had a story

895
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: about right, Yeah, this is his this is his fourth

896
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: he's set in records.

897
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 5: And the crazy part is I asked him.

898
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, I got to ask you, as

899
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: like someone who's from Indiana, how in the world did

900
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 1: you make the Winter Olympics.

901
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 5: And he gave me an interesting response.

902
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: He said, because I don't know if you guys know,

903
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: like Perfect North down in southern Indiana, it's not exactly

904
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: like a hotbed of Olympic talent. And he said, well,

905
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: here's the thing. If I grew up in Vail or Breckinridge,

906
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: being at those fancy resorts, I would get maybe one

907
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: or two runs an hour. At Perfect North, I could

908
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: get a season pass for fifty bucks since ski one

909
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty runs per hours. So he just got

910
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: a million reps over time, and his trips.

911
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,479
Speaker 5: Are just jaw dropping. It's pretty incredible what these guys

912
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 5: can do.

913
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: It's crazy. You brought up Lindsay Vaughn, who's just had

914
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: to In my mind, Zach, I've covered sports forever. This

915
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: is one of the most amazing comeback stories I've ever seen,

916
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: not only coming back from major injuries, but time off

917
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: over the age of forty, and she's winning World Cup races.

918
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 3: This is unbelievable to me. How likely is.

919
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 2: It that she could pull off a gold medal here?

920
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 5: Oh, she could definitely do it.

921
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: I mean it's not that just similar than what her

922
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: ex boyfriend did in the world of golf, right did

923
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: it Tiger Woods for a minute, and that guy's knee

924
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: was shred and he came back and won the Masters

925
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: and all that. What she's doing is absurd. So we

926
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: all watch on TV and it's incredible.

927
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 5: Right.

928
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: I went to an event in December to just kind

929
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: of you know, the World Cup event, get the lay

930
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: of the land, to see them in action as a

931
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: completely different visual, you feel it in your entire body,

932
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: Like to see the halfpipe and how these these snowboarders

933
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: are thirty feet above the lift of the of the

934
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: halfpipe and it's completely ice at the top and so

935
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: when they fall, I mean, they break something, no matter what.

936
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 1: The coolest part for me has been like the Super

937
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: g the Alpine, the downhill stuff where there they're literally

938
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: rocket launching themselves. Down the side of a mountain and

939
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: they're wearing a quarter of an inch of spandex to

940
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: protect that one slip. And that's the other thing is

941
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: every single spear I've ever talked to is like, Yeah,

942
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: I blew out my ACL, I blew out myniscus, my PCL,

943
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: my MCL. Like they've all been hurt because it's such

944
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: a dangerous sport and they're sort of towing this line,

945
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: which of course snakes Lizzy Vaughn's come back all the

946
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: more remarkable, and the way she's skeeen right now, she

947
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: could absolutely contend.

948
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you cannot wait to read your work. I think

949
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 4: I'll meet the moment there at an Olympics coming up

950
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 4: in a few weeks. That key for that's the voice

951
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 4: you hear, of course on the Payloffs Liquors hotline. Harlo

952
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 4: Shift gears a little bit more Colts NFL related. So,

953
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 4: our first combo with you since the season ended here

954
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 4: in Indianapolis, just your overall thoughts on you know, the

955
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five and the complexities of the Colt season

956
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 4: and then the run it back approach they're taking here

957
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 4: into twenty twenty six.

958
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't say I was surprised based on kind

959
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 1: of sort of the conversations I had late in the season.

960
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like Carly was ready to make a move.

961
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: That's obviously what happened. They're written it back status quo.

962
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: If I'm a Colts fan, I'm probably a little bit

963
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: encouraged by the fact that there were ken openings this year,

964
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: and if you did make a move at head coach,

965
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you're getting your first or second or

966
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: third choice. Now maybe that's just glass as full talk,

967
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: but I don't think there's any play callers out there

968
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: on the market if you want to go offense, that

969
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: are better than Shane Stike.

970
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 5: And I think he would have.

971
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: Gotten my head coaching job in about fifteen minutes. And

972
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: that's from people I talked to around the league. But

973
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: the other thing is, I didn't think the press conference

974
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: was a great moment for this franchise. If I'm a

975
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: Colts fan, I did not walk away from that especially encouraged.

976
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: It felt very much to me that Chris Ballard was

977
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: weighed on eight games of work as opposed to nine years. Right,

978
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: those first eight games, we were really good. That's good enough.

979
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: Let's run it back as opposed to the collapse at

980
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: the end which he was responsible, or just as much

981
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: as the first eight games in the body of work.

982
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: So I totally hear the fans frustration on that point.

983
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: The logic did not make sense to me, and I

984
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: did not think it was.

985
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 5: Relayed very well.

986
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: This was not a very convincing argument in my opinion,

987
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 1: of why they made the decision they made and why

988
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: it's going to point in any direction other than the

989
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: direction they've been the last couple of years, which just

990
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: seems to be floating along and stuck in mediocrity.

991
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 2: Zach obviously big moves in the offseason last year with

992
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones and buying them and cam Ward and then

993
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: in the middle of the season with Sauce Gardner. How

994
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: aggressive can or should the Colts be on defense in

995
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: free agency this offseason.

996
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like Daniel Jones is free to complete right.

997
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: It sounds like he's coming back, almost as if he's

998
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: not a free agent who can test the market. Now.

999
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 5: I think that's what Daniel wants. I think that's what

1000
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 5: Shane wants.

1001
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: Shane really likes him, and so they'll bring him back

1002
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: and maybe the injury gives you a little bit of leeway.

1003
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 1: I've just thrown out a number three for one hundred,

1004
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more. It depends on what happens.

1005
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: Is Buckner back, Like, Buckner's your best pass rusher, and

1006
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: that's a problem. That's a problem because no offense to Buckner,

1007
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: but he's an interior defensive lineman and they haven't addressed

1008
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: the edges. When I did that story with my colleague

1009
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: Jordan rog Grive at the end of the season, I mean, like,

1010
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: if you look up their highest pass back guys of

1011
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: the last you know, let's say the whole Chris Ballot era,

1012
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: all of them have been brought from other rosters.

1013
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 5: None of them are homegrown talents.

1014
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: Edcom Justin Juson back in twenty nineteen, Denico Autry, Like,

1015
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: that's a problem.

1016
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 5: They have been able to.

1017
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: Grow those edge rushers, and that's a big achilles here

1018
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: for this team. We'll see what happens in the secondary.

1019
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: They got some guys coming back from injury, but again,

1020
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: it's just it just feels like every year that that

1021
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: room gets shredded.

1022
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 5: So and I'm very curious to see what they do

1023
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 5: with linebacker.

1024
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 1: Is desire Franklin back because it doesn't sound like anything

1025
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: is sure on that defense right now.

1026
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 4: Zach Keiber with us here on the payloss Slickers hot line.

1027
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 4: I could not agree more with them on the kind

1028
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 4: of that end of the season post mortem and his

1029
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 4: takeaways from that. This is kind of random, Zach, but

1030
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 4: you were on the beat and I'm going way back,

1031
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 4: so I apologize. But twenty eighteen, when they hired Josh McDaniels,

1032
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 4: I had forgotten that a part of that first head

1033
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 4: coach interview cycle was Mike Vrabel. Some of the names

1034
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 4: that I was thinking about the other day, and again,

1035
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 4: feel free to add anything on it, because I don't

1036
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 4: remember at all, but I remember like Matt Naggi's name

1037
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 4: being thrown around. I remember Matt Ruhle, who was then

1038
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 4: the Baylor head coach, getting an interview. Obviously, Josh McDaniels

1039
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 4: is who was initially hired there, but at the time

1040
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 4: that was Rabel, just one year as Texans defensive coordinator.

1041
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 4: They weren't very good Houston defensively, and then ironically Rabel

1042
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 4: ended up getting hired that cycle. Tennessee won a road

1043
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 4: playoff game at Kansas City, they still fired Mike Malarkey

1044
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 4: and hired Vrabel after that. But do you recall anything

1045
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 4: from that coaching search. I know, once the McDaniels things happened,

1046
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 4: we tend to only remember that aspect to it.

1047
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Chris really wanted Josh McDaniels. I don't know

1048
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: if the word saved is the right word, but he

1049
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: wanted to resurrect Josh McDaniels head coaching viability, Like he

1050
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: really wanted that offensive mind. And remember where McDaniels was right,

1051
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: he was piloting one of the best offices of football

1052
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady, and they were competing for championships every year.

1053
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: The interesting things here, and you know this TV is

1054
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: the Vrabel aspect because as the years went on, Jim Mersey.

1055
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 5: Was obsessed with Mike Rapel.

1056
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 1: Like I don't use that word lightly, but he got

1057
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: so mad, he got visibly upset in conversations I had

1058
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: with him, and then in conversations he had with me

1059
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: and other reporters that the Titans would come in and

1060
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,959
Speaker 1: win the AFC South every couple of years with less

1061
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: talent than the cole Tac. It drove him insane, and

1062
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: there was an oh to three start one year where

1063
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: the Titans had won the third game to beat the Colts.

1064
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: The Colts were owned three, and he called Frank Brake

1065
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: in every scout and every coach in the city like

1066
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: they were in town, into the building so he could

1067
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: rip them a new one.

1068
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 5: I forgot about it, absolutely just lit into them.

1069
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: And he loved the way Rabel's teams played with toughness.

1070
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 1: It's kind of what he wanted out of a Chuck

1071
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: Pagano era. Right, So they don't win more than one

1072
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: championship with Peyton.

1073
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 5: They want to go defense.

1074
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: They want to mimic what the Steelers and the Ravens

1075
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: did for all those years, the teams that beat the Colts.

1076
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 5: In the playoffs. That drove him nuts, but he wanted

1077
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 5: that with a Chuck Pagano era. They pitted back to offense.

1078
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, which leads to Frank brag But Jim Mercy

1079
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: was right about Mike Rabel, like he is a heck

1080
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 1: of a head coach.

1081
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 5: He's seeing it right now, and.

1082
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: It used to really drive him nuts that Rabel's teams

1083
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: would win the ANC South with less talent, he thought

1084
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: than the Indianapolis Colts.

1085
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 4: Man, I'm looking on a map here, Zach, you weren't kidding.

1086
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 4: Milan is not very close to Cortina at all. It's

1087
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 4: like a two hour drive.

1088
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I'm hopping on a plane that's or sorry,

1089
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: I'm hopping on a train that's like a three hour ride.

1090
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm in this like little small ski town that's like

1091
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Speaker 1: basically the Swiss out So I'm bas in the Swiss

1092
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: Alps for the next three weeks.

1093
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 2: Oh well, unbelievable. I feel for you.

1094
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 4: Is your wife coming over all?

1095
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: She's gonna come for the first couple of days, the

1096
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: whole Can I cover the Olympics and be gone for

1097
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: three weeks?

1098
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 9: Was?

1099
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 5: You know?

1100
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: Probably better to get her a couple of days of

1101
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: her own before she's got a solo parent for quite

1102
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: a while.

1103
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 4: Sure, dude, have a blast man, safe travels, and yeah,

1104
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 4: I can't wait to Rea. I mean, hell, with a

1105
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 4: time change, maybe we might dial you up if it,

1106
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Speaker 4: if it works at all.

1107
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'll be out. I'll be out on the

1108
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 5: slopes every day.

1109
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: One more quick thing. Any thoughts on the whole Pro

1110
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame brew haha with Bill Belichick and

1111
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: how people are reacting across the league to that.

1112
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have some thoughts because the process is really

1113
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 1: unnecessarily complex. Like I know people are mad at Belichick

1114
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: isn't the first ballot Hall of Famer. I don't think

1115
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: that's worth our time. He's a Hall of Famer. Everybody

1116
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: knows that he should have gotten in. You guys don't

1117
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: need to waste airwaves on that. I think the reality is,

1118
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: why are these voters, these fifty voters choosing between you know,

1119
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: Ken Anderson and Bill polly In and a coach right

1120
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: like or Bill Belichick? Excuse me, Like, it just doesn't

1121
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: make sense that they're having to equate players careers with

1122
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: these legendary coaching careers like I should. I feel like

1123
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 1: they should be separate categories. And the way they've rearranged

1124
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: and redone the process is.

1125
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 5: Just added this confusion.

1126
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: And the other thing is I think a lot of

1127
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: voters didn't vote for Belichick because they just assumed he

1128
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: was going to get in. And then all of a

1129
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: sudden you had eleven voters at least who didn't vote

1130
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: for Belichick and he doesn't get in, which is just

1131
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: a terrible look for the Hall of Fame. I think

1132
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: it's a terrible look for the voters as well. I

1133
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: just think this is more a reflection of a very

1134
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 1: very flawed process than anything it has to do with

1135
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: with Belichick's credentials.

1136
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, I fun. As Kevin said, travel safe, buddy,

1137
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: and we look forward to hearing and reading your stuff.

1138
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 5: Awesome.

1139
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Thanks Dak Keith for the athletic joining us

1140
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 2: on the Payless Liquors hotline.

1141
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 4: Speed Skating Caleb, I love speed skating too. I think

1142
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 4: got so cool. They get down there, they're kind of

1143
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 4: getting that three point stance and many that they're hugging

1144
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 4: those inside lines, and I feel like there's a lot

1145
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 4: of tactical, you know nature to it of like you know,

1146
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 4: let's call it a ten lap race, and I'm gonna

1147
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 4: kind of, you know, be more the hunter than the

1148
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 4: Hunt did. And I love that. I can remember the

1149
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 4: American dude, Apollo anton Ono.

1150
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 3: I believe, yes, yeah, that was.

1151
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 4: That was a kind of an earlier Winter Olympic memory.

1152
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 2: I go back a little bit far. They're one of

1153
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: my first jobs in this business. Effectually my first full

1154
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: time job out of college was in Billings, Montana, and

1155
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: we covered the the speed Skating World Cup over in

1156
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: Butte at the same time. I don't know if you

1157
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 2: remember these names. You might be a little too young, Caleb,

1158
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: but Dan Jansen sure, Bonnie Blair, Yeah, people like that

1159
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: kind of And let me tell you when it's one

1160
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 2: of those things like Zach was talking about scheme, when

1161
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 2: you see it up close and see the actual speed

1162
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: that these folks traveled down open ice on those skates,

1163
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 2: it's it's like it's in some ways clearly, it's not

1164
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: like the Indy five hundred, where it's just they're from

1165
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: one end to the other like in no time. But

1166
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: it's fast, and you're like, WHOA.

1167
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 7: I gotta say this for Zach, And he said he's

1168
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 7: going to be in the Swiss Alps. He's getting a

1169
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 7: good primer out here in Indy with this snowstorm, So

1170
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 7: I think I think this is a good warm up.

1171
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 3: You're gonna be quite as cold out there.

1172
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that's that's fair.

1173
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 4: The top of Crown Hill to the highest point here

1174
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 4: in Indianapolis. Yeah, I believe Rake Straw said to me

1175
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 4: on the trim up thirty one. Oh, here we go

1176
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 4: the highest point in uh in Kocoma where about right

1177
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 4: across right now.

1178
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: That's why I go to Brown h you know, uh,

1179
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: the State Park down to Brown County because the there's

1180
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: actually terrain and hills out there. Man, I love that.

1181
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 7: Just the cold and the snow aspect, I would say

1182
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 7: he's getting maybe a good warm up.

1183
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: All right, let's do a quick checkdown as we continue

1184
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 2: to roll through the shit. And he had a Pacer

1185
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 2: was one thirteen to one to ten winners at the

1186
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 2: Fieldhouse last night over these Chicago Bulls, a team they

1187
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: seem to have figured out Kevin Bowen three of their

1188
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 2: twelve wins this.

1189
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 4: Year, right, so three and zero against the Bulls. Yeah,

1190
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 4: last night you just made all the plays in the

1191
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 4: fourth quarter, and we haven't said that too often this year.

1192
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 4: Raced a fourteen point deficit. Nemhard big shot Siakam has

1193
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 4: several big plays. Aaron Nee Smith probably the top of that,

1194
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,479
Speaker 4: both ends of the floor, huge huge plays. Jay Hoff

1195
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 4: hit the top of the key three and Ben mcmatherin

1196
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 4: had a really key flurry there in the third quarter.

1197
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 4: You know, that could have gone either way there. He

1198
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 4: got the start in the second half, had a big

1199
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 4: little stretch there to keep the Pacers within striking distance.

1200
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 4: So yes, a win here is they are back at home,

1201
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 4: and they will be at home for three more Saturday

1202
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 4: Hawks next game inside of a Gamber trip.

1203
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw two numbers out at you that jump

1204
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 2: out at me when I was looking at the box

1205
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: score in the post game last night, only six turnovers

1206
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: and Kevin, they were fifteen to thirty six from three

1207
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 2: point range, which is not terrible. That's pretty good.

1208
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 4: No, no, no, And we will give you an update

1209
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 4: on our Yannis trade scenario. Poll Pacers fans, do you

1210
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 4: want it? We'll give that to you here.

1211
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 2: On the other side, I, as you mentioned, the Pacers

1212
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 2: at home again against the Atlanta Hawks tomorrow night, Saturday night,

1213
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 2: not Tomorrow night, Saturday night. That one.

1214
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 3: We'll start at seven o'clock over there.

1215
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 2: Last night college basketball, Butler had a problem with Saint

1216
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: John's from the very opening tip, just never really got

1217
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: it going. They lose by twenty two points, and it

1218
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: brings it into their little winning streak they had going

1219
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 2: on there.

1220
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, and not that I work out much, but

1221
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 4: whenever I watched Saint John's play, I think to myself,

1222
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 4: I don't need to work out because I'm sweating imagining

1223
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 4: bringing up the ball against that Saint John's pressure there. Shockingly,

1224
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 4: Butler only had six turnovers yet still lost by twenty two,

1225
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 4: so Saint John shot the hell out of it. Butler

1226
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 4: tried a little one three one action and Saint John's

1227
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 4: was able to kind of carve that up there. So again,

1228
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 4: not a lot of claud one opportunities left. Last night

1229
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 4: was one of them. Saint John's looked like that preseason

1230
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 4: top ten team. That's really how they played here in January,

1231
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 4: say Rick Patino's bunch looks like Dad. So Butler needs

1232
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 4: to continue to hold serve. They'll get Georgetown at home

1233
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 4: on Saturday, and then they're gonna have to steal one

1234
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 4: Yukon at Nova, win a game or two back in

1235
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 4: Madison Square Garden Biggie's tournament time. They're gonna have to

1236
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 4: do a little bit more if they're gonna want to

1237
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 4: continue to build a resume.

1238
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 2: And you can see them for yourselves. Saturday, they will

1239
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 2: be at Hinkle Fieldhouse. They'll be taking on Georgetown. I

1240
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 2: You on Saturday night will be out on the West

1241
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 2: Coast taking on UCLA. Purdue travels to Maryland for a

1242
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon game, and your Notre Dame fighting Irish try

1243
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 2: to bounce back from that heartbreaking, crushing, tough loss in

1244
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 2: double overtime to Virginia the other night.

1245
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 4: I don't sense a lot of sympathy in how you

1246
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 4: described that.

1247
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 3: I said it was heartbreaking and tough.

1248
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: Did I not come?

1249
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 8: I like Notre Dame's chances in that game.

1250
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 4: By the way, Syracuse is not Syracuse is reeling not great.

1251
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 2: It's not your father Syracuse basketball.

1252
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 4: It is true.

1253
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: That is true, all right, another head coaching hire. Yesterday,

1254
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 2: Todd Munkin goes to the Cleveland Browns, and yes, Patrick

1255
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 2: Lee Reid is leaving the Live Golf Tour to return

1256
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 2: to the PGA Tour. Not eligible to compete, I believe

1257
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 2: till August.

1258
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, he's gonna try. One thing I do appreciate

1259
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 4: about Reid, He's gonna go play on the European Tour

1260
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 4: and try to earn more status. So you know, again,

1261
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 4: that's stuff that I do appreciate about. You know, even

1262
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 4: the Koepka coming back and or the Patrick Reid. It's

1263
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 4: not like, hey, you're just being handed. You know, all

1264
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 4: these events per se. You know, Brooks obviously is won

1265
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 4: a lot of majors. Patrick Reed's a Pass champions, so

1266
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 4: they do get some status, but to earn more, in

1267
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 4: Patrick Reid's case, he's gonna have to go earn it

1268
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 4: on the European Tour. So I do appreciate that aspect

1269
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 4: of it.

1270
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 2: All right, anything else you want to throw in before

1271
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: we head to break here.

1272
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mentioned it, you know, throughout the show. So

1273
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 4: Cotton nunerpad this of Bud Arright, the all time winnings

1274
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 4: coach at high school football here in the state of Indiana. Southwood.

1275
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 4: He's coaching at the age of eighty.

1276
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 3: Five, and we don't doubt him, do we?

1277
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 4: Football coach four hundred and sixty four career wins for him.

1278
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 4: He was an assistant at North Miami. I believe that's

1279
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 4: the alma mater of the great great Ruth Riley. Their

1280
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 4: last season, so there you go, Larry budd Right, didn't

1281
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 4: look like a great night for mid majors in the state.

1282
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 4: A lot of them were playing IU Indy, Evansville, Valpo,

1283
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 4: Fort Wayne. I think all of them suffered setbacks. Again,

1284
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 4: the story of the year from a mid major standpoint. Mayama, Ohio.

1285
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 4: We'll talk with Rakestraw about it again tomorrow. They are

1286
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 4: undefeated on the year, not just Pete suedor Justin Kirby

1287
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 4: from Fishers as well Travis Steele and that staff has

1288
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 4: a ton of Indiana flavor on it. Of course, Miami,

1289
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 4: Ohio geographically is not as close as you're gonna get

1290
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 4: here to the state of Indiana. And shout out as

1291
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 4: well to Josh Schertz, the former Indiana state coach. I

1292
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 4: don't know if Saint Louis qualifies as a mid mid major,

1293
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 4: but they have just one loss in the season. They

1294
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 4: are also right, so I don't know how much Indiana

1295
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 4: flavor will get in the bracket per se, But a

1296
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 4: couple those storylines to watch here as we get closer

1297
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 4: to March.

1298
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 2: You mentioned Miami of Ohio. It's not terribly far from Dayton,

1299
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: But have you been to Oxford, Ohio, Caleb and your

1300
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: Ohio travels?

1301
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 8: I actually have lots of times.

1302
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: My stepfather was a graduate, got a graduate degree at

1303
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 2: the Miami.

1304
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 8: It's a good place, despite them being rivals with my

1305
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 8: alma mater. Yeah, good Miami. How's a good place?

1306
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 2: All right? That's what's happening in the world of sports.

1307
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: We'll come back talk a little bit more about some

1308
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: college basketball in a moment ninety three five one oh

1309
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Speaker 2: seven five of the fan, Little Caleb Zuver flavor right

1310
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: there the nine o'clock hour here on the ninety three

1311
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 2: five one o seven five the fan. He's in for

1312
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 2: the as I mentioned, is there a better way to

1313
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 2: describe it, Kevin than the ever vacationing Mark Titon.

1314
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 4: You're the one that signs off on the piece. He's

1315
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 4: been here for a long time.

1316
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: He takes like a day or two at the end

1317
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 2: of a week here and there all the time. I

1318
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 2: don't blame I don't blame his strategy necessarily, but he

1319
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: will be back on Monday. We are happy to have

1320
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 2: Caleb Zuber in today doing our thing. And Caleb, since

1321
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: you are in for Mark Dyton today, I assigned you

1322
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 2: last night the task of coming up with some questions

1323
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: for I gotta know, and so let's hit it all right.

1324
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 8: Let's do this.

1325
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 7: It is not Mark Dyton, is Caleb Zuber. I got

1326
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 7: four questions here. It's spent. I mean, I was burning

1327
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 7: the midnight oil last night when you send me that text, Jeff.

1328
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 7: First one, We'll start with some sports stuff here, I

1329
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 7: gotta know, and we kind of maybe covered this in

1330
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 7: the show today, But I gotta know will the Pacers

1331
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 7: make a trade within the next week when the deadline hits?

1332
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 2: Still looking for a center, Kevin Bowen? Are there centers

1333
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 2: to be had out there? And are you just a

1334
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 2: major upgrade over what the Pacers have been using all

1335
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 2: season long?

1336
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 4: Well, I think if you want a trade, you should

1337
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 4: cheer for Yannis to be moved. Honestly, I think to quote,

1338
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 4: you know, when I listened to the IndyCar races, sometimes

1339
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 4: you hear the announcers say caution, breed cautions. I think

1340
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 4: trades breed trades. So I think Giannis Domino would lead

1341
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 4: to some action. I'll say, yes, Caleb, I will say

1342
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 4: we will see a trade here in the next seven days.

1343
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 3: Pacers have got to find the center somewhere.

1344
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: If not for the rest of the season, they certainly

1345
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: need to find one by the time Tyrese Haliburton gets

1346
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 2: back next year. I'd imagine they get a little bit

1347
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 2: of help in the front court when Obi Topin comes

1348
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 2: back whenever that's going to be.

1349
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 3: But he's not obviously a true true center.

1350
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 2: They need a center, and unless they're just going to

1351
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 2: hang out and try to draft bigger guys or go

1352
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 2: after somebody in the off season. I think they have

1353
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: to take all phone calls at this point in time.

1354
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 2: I just don't know who's out there that. You say yourself, man,

1355
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 2: I'm really really glad we got that right now. I

1356
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 2: don't know Jordan Poole, a guy like that.

1357
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 8: Take a flyer, you know what I'm saying.

1358
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: That doesn't doesn't it doesn't flow your boat, doesn't. No thanks,

1359
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: But that's what's out there. That's my point.

1360
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I could see them getting involved in

1361
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 7: a three team or four team trade, just as a

1362
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 7: maybe a salary filler, salary dump, or whatever the case

1363
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 7: may be, maybe trading some second round picks. I think

1364
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 7: that's maybe more of what we're gonna see. By the way,

1365
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 7: on the poll, I know I said sixty forty look

1366
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 7: at you, a we are right there with fifty nine

1367
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 7: point three percent. Wow, forty point seven percent yes, eighty

1368
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 7: six votes in on that, we may start calling you

1369
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 7: the oracle.

1370
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Speaker 4: There are some Patiers fans clearly that are putting their

1371
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 4: Yana's differences to the side. Yeah, with that and again

1372
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Speaker 4: that trade, excepting everybody we threw it out there earlier.

1373
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 4: Pascal Siakam, ben Nick mather in a first round pick

1374
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Speaker 4: next year for Jannis. Listener Matt tossed that our way,

1375
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 4: so Cayler put it out on a poll fan morning

1376
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Speaker 4: show on Twitter.

1377
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Speaker 7: Second one, I gotta know if Perdue will be a

1378
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 7: top four seed in the Big Ten tournament. I have

1379
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 7: the standings here, and if you look at it, Michigan,

1380
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 7: Michigan State, and Nebraska all at nine and one, Illinois

1381
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 7: eight and one, Perdue at seven and three. Right now,

1382
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 7: they wouldn't get the double buy.

1383
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 4: It's kind of wild like they might. They You can

1384
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 4: make a case they have a better chance for a

1385
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 4: top four seed in the Big Tournament than they do

1386
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 4: in the Big Ten, just because their non conference was

1387
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 4: so you know, promising, with you know, winning at Alabama

1388
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 4: Texas Tech on the neutral floor. They have some nice

1389
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 4: wins there. I will say they clawed their way back.

1390
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 4: They've already done their Western trip. I believe I'm not mistaken.

1391
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 4: Michigan State and Michigan are both at home this year.

1392
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 4: I think that's part of their schedule, so I know

1393
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 4: there are still some other, you know, very notable game.

1394
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Speaker 4: I want to say they go to Illinois maybe, but

1395
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 4: I will say they will be a top four seed.

1396
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 2: Right now, CBS bracketology has them as a three seed.

1397
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: I can't imagine they don't get anything but better from

1398
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 2: here on out the rest of the season.

1399
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 4: Well again, Calebs asking Big ten, not in Big ten,

1400
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 4: I get that Big Ten.

1401
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're probably right, four or five something

1402
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 2: like that.

1403
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's gonna be really interesting to watch

1404
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 7: because could this be the year for the Big Ten? No, boy,

1405
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 7: I mean it's it's the question we ask every single year.

1406
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 7: But geez man, those are some really good teams.

1407
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 2: Michiganok's really good.

1408
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 3: Yes, Arizona looked tremendous against the other.

1409
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 4: Night the other night on the road without rink masts

1410
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 4: and they nearly win the game. So, you know, obviously

1411
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 4: winning six in a row in March and April, the

1412
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 4: Big ten, I mean, hell, we haven't seen that many

1413
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 4: Big ten teams even in the final four really here

1414
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 4: in recent recent years. So yeah, that is a really

1415
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 4: great question. I you know, it'll be one of those

1416
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 4: weird things we get to the tournament. It's like, you know, boy,

1417
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 4: how many top three seeds will be out of the

1418
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 4: Big ten, top four seeds will be out of the

1419
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:43,919
Speaker 4: Big Ten.

1420
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 2: Well, I bring up Arizona because they are clearly playing

1421
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 2: at a different level right now. They are twenty one

1422
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 2: to zero, but I think Michigan could hang with them.

1423
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 4: Well that was my don't sleep on Yukon because I

1424
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 4: know they lost Arizona, but they didn't have Terence Reid

1425
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 4: for that matchup. They didn't have Bradlan Bullens for that matchup.

1426
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 4: And I can't wait for Yukon Saint John's. I believe

1427
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 4: it's next week because St. John's starting to play good ball.

1428
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to.

1429
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 2: That one, all right.

1430
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 7: I am going to say that Perdue will call their

1431
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 7: way back in as well next one. I know Jeff

1432
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 7: in the past has pointed out I am a single man,

1433
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 7: and he has made that known to the wide audience.

1434
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 8: I'm trying to help with that, Taylor. Maybe you can

1435
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 8: help me here.

1436
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 7: This Valentine's Day won't be an issue, but it is

1437
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 7: coming up, and I got to know the perfect way

1438
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,439
Speaker 7: to spend Valentine's Day.

1439
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 3: There are different seasons in life sometimes.

1440
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 2: And you learn to got our love proper cared for everybody,

1441
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 2: Doctor Jeff Rickard, properly appreciate the person you have been with.

1442
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 2: You know, my wife and I have been together for

1443
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 2: about twenty four years. Coming up to sell me some

1444
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 2: are we've been married for a little over twenty one,

1445
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 2: and I will say it. I will admit I'm not

1446
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 2: always perfect at this, not probably the best gift giver,

1447
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: although I have tried at times. But my wife's birthday

1448
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 2: is a week before Valentine's Day, and in the past

1449
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: I have wanted to have the eight what I call

1450
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 2: the Eight Days of Christine and do something each day.

1451
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: I have probably not kept up with that as well

1452
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 2: as I need to, but I try to.

1453
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 3: Her big thing is she's one of those people does.

1454
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 2: Like, don't spend money, Let's save it so we can

1455
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 2: go travel someplace is her big thing.

1456
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,439
Speaker 3: But I'll try to come up with something pretty cool.

1457
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 2: What about you, Kevin?

1458
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 4: Here you go hour long coaching session after the show,

1459
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 4: Here Caleb slide into jeff Rickord's office and all of

1460
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 4: a sudden be winding done on the romance. I love.

1461
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 4: Eight Days of Christine sounds like a terrific idea. In

1462
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 4: all seriousness, I am very lucky that my wedding anniversary

1463
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 4: is February sixteenth and Valentine's Day. Wow, you know pretty

1464
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 4: much there so wow, unfortunately we did not have this weather.

1465
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 4: We actually had fifty degree weather. It took pictures over

1466
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 4: a butler. It was very very fortunate there. So yeah, Caleb,

1467
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 4: I married a G eight great, great, great woman who

1468
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 4: is very much like the Hey, let's just combine with

1469
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 4: the anniversary. Let's do something you know, along those lines to.

1470
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 2: You have kind of a similar thing going on in

1471
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 2: terms of time.

1472
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 4: Now, Caleb, if you want to sneak it in, I

1473
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 4: believe weve got a couple of days left here Devoured

1474
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 4: Indy and shout out to our local businesses because unfortunately,

1475
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 4: when we get weather like this, they lose multiple days

1476
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 4: of you know, potentially us you know, venturing out there.

1477
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 4: So definitely check out local businesses Devoured Indy or some

1478
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 4: great menus there. If I must say so, we've done

1479
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 4: it before where honestly we just kind of share one

1480
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 4: of the devour menus and then you know, maybe get

1481
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 4: one extra item there. So I think we honestly might

1482
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 4: do that here. Here's this week, and I believe it

1483
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 4: ends on the first.

1484
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a that's a great idea. And here's the

1485
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 2: biggest thing, learn her love language and feed it. Absolutely,

1486
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 2: that's the key.

1487
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 4: I literally just saw Caleb take out his notebook.

1488
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 8: I did write some stuff down there.

1489
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 4: I mean look at that now, can I can I

1490
01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 4: toss one year? Guys?

1491
01:07:59,000 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 5: Way?

1492
01:07:59,280 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1493
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 4: So wh're about ready hit a break? I think I

1494
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 4: told you yesterday car didn't start how to take the

1495
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 4: other car in, so jump it yesterday afternoon. Drove it

1496
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 4: around for about five minutes. Didn't want to be you know,

1497
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 4: I just didn't have time to be driving around for

1498
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 4: ten or fifteen minutes. I go out there this morning

1499
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 4: six am, fire it up. Nothing. So I'm jumping at

1500
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 4: this morning?

1501
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1502
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 4: Is that dangerous? Now? I drove it about twenty minutes

1503
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 4: into work, so I drove it for longer this morning.

1504
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 4: Once it was jumped, I'm nervous. I'm thinking about going

1505
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 4: out there during the break to start it. I want

1506
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 4: to know is it going to start or not? Because

1507
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 4: if not, I screw your love doctor meeting. Oh I'm

1508
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 4: gonna need some help. I got the cables in the

1509
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 4: back seat right now. So should I be worried about

1510
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 4: jumping my car potentially for a third time in eighteen hours.

1511
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 2: I would say, you've got a sixty to forty chance

1512
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 2: it'll start we're up to three degrees now Covin three

1513
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 2: degrees out of climbing.

1514
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 4: The sun was not out at six am this morning.

1515
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 7: Dude, Like last night, I was actually driving and my

1516
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 7: for some reason, you know, I got stuck. One of

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01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,719
Speaker 7: the roads wasn't ploid. But I got out after about

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Speaker 7: thirty seconds. And then I looked down. My engine light,

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01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 7: my tire pressure, my steering wheel light all came on

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01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 7: at the same time, and I was like, what is

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01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,919
Speaker 7: happening here? And I think it was just the sensors

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01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 7: were messed up. So we're all good now. But the

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01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 7: cold and the snow does some weird stuff to your car.

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01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 8: Man, you just never know.

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01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 4: So do you think a battery shot?

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01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 8: I think the battery shot.

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01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if they make them this way, but

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01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 2: in the older days, he used to be able to.

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01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,520
Speaker 3: Like plug your car into.

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01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 2: Like it would be an extension cord that would run

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01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 2: up to your house. And I know that when I

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01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 2: was young. My first job, I mentioned I was in Montana.

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01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 2: It would get really cold there and you'd see people

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01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 2: with like electric cords running from their car to the house.

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01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 2: And I don't even know if they make those extensions

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01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 2: for cars anymore or not. They probably don't, but that's wave.

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01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are people over the age of fifty

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01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 2: that know what I'm talking about there.

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01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, people are chiming in sounds like your batter is dead.

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Speaker 5: Take it in.

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01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 2: We should get a poll going on that. Yeah, everybody

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01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 2: who's participated myself.

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01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 4: Should I attempt to start it now? Or should I

1544
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 4: just wait?

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01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 7: Hey, you got five minutes so you can do that.

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01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 7: You got time, all right, and uh, we can come

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01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 7: back with an answer.

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01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 3: We'll watch from the windows.

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01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 5: I like this idea.

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01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 2: We'll watch from the windows. Is he races out there,

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01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 2: tries to start the car and races back.

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01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 8: Watch for ice, don't slip, don't fall, all right.

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01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 2: Well, we'll have an answer that for you, maybe if

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01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 2: Kevin decides to go down that route. When we continue next,

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Speaker 2: it's ninety three five and one on seven f