1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 2: Hello, my name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 2: with a very special guest. 4 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 3: On the hotline, the newly named chief of police for 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 3: the IMPD, Tanya Terry, joins us, a Chief, can we. 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: Call you chief at this point? Do we have to 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: wait a few days. 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 4: I'll answer to anything, but you can call me chief 9 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 4: if you'd like. 10 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Chief, welcome to the program here. Congratulations, twenty 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: seven years working with the department and now in essence 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: it's your department. 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about yourself. 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 4: Well, as you said, twenty seven years IDIMPD veteran officer. 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 4: I'm married. I actually was raised here in Indianapolis and 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 4: a proud graduate of Warren Central High School on the 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 4: east side of town, and have chosen to raise my 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 4: family here in Marion County as well. So the city 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 4: is important to me. It matters, and I absolutely adore 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 4: our police department. 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: Let's go back, we could get onto you know what's 22 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: going to happen in here in the future with the 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: city and her new leadership. But just maybe do you 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: remember the first time you ever thought about becoming a 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: police officer and did you ever think it would be 26 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: escalating to the one of the highest positions within the department. 27 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 4: No, I never actually thought about being the chief of police. 28 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: When I considered a career in law enforcement. I remember 29 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 4: being a young, active street cop and thinking that that 30 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 4: was what I was going to do for the next 31 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 4: thirty plus years, is be a beat officer. And there's 32 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 4: been so many beat cops that I have admired and 33 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 4: respected that have done that and spent their entire career 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 4: on the street. So that's kind of where my mindset was, 35 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 4: except I kind of took a turn about fifteen sixteen 36 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 4: years in my career. I was encouraged to take the 37 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 4: promotional process, and when I got promoted, my eyes were 38 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 4: opened to the opportunity that formal leadership afforded for me 39 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 4: and those that I worked around. So things kind of 40 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 4: took off from there, as you can tell. And now 41 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 4: I've gotten this incredible honor and opportunity to serve in 42 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 4: this capacity. As deeply humbling. 43 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: And looking at your bio and your career in terms 44 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: of public service with the police department, you were a 45 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 3: founding member of that violent crimes unit. I believe that 46 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: was back in nineteen ninety nine, one of the founding 47 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: members of the IMPD Violent Crimes Unit, talk about that 48 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: experience and I know you've probably seen some heinous, awful 49 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: things working with that group, but has that prepared you 50 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 3: for this current role? 51 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 4: Absolutely it has. My time with the Violent Crimes Unit, 52 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 4: which as a patrol officer at the time, really opened 53 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 4: my eyes to new units being formed and being a 54 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 4: part of shaping what the vision and the mission of 55 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 4: that unit was. And then working there was only nine 56 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 4: of us in the unit and working, of course, I 57 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: was the only female, So working in a small unit 58 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 4: dynamic going after some of the most violent criminals in 59 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 4: our county opened my eyes a lot, and I learned 60 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 4: an incredible amount about police work, investigations, and how important 61 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 4: partnerships across different agencies, across different units within the agency, 62 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 4: and partnerships in the community are so crucial to our success. 63 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: What's it been like we're speaking with a new IMPD chief, 64 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: Tany Tarry here. What's it been like working with the 65 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: current chief? Chris Bailey's been on this program many times, 66 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: and what have you learned from him? And what can 67 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: you take moving forward to improve the city, improve IMPD 68 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: and what's that going to look like here in the future. 69 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: Actually, I don't know if everybody is aware of this, 70 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 4: but Chief Bailey and I were in the same IPD 71 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 4: recruit class in nineteen ninety nine, so we have followed 72 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 4: each other's careers for the last twenty seven years and 73 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 4: really never worked directly with each other. Our paths kind 74 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 4: of went separate ways because our agency is so large, 75 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 4: But of course we've followed each other along and in 76 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 4: recent years, as I've been a member of the command staff, 77 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 4: we've gotten even closer. And he has set an incredible 78 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 4: example for me to follow in his leadership, in his 79 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: strategic thinking. I know that as a man and as 80 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: a person, he cares very deeply for his police officers 81 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 4: in his community, and he's been in extremely inspired hiring 82 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 4: mentor for me throughout the entire our entire career. 83 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: Really, Chief, what are some plans you have to improve 84 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: on what's happening with IMPD. We hear that the crime 85 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 3: numbers are down, We see the statistics. That's good, but 86 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: there's also the fact that this is a city that 87 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: has a higher homicide rate per capita than Chicago, which 88 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 3: is bad. So what can you do to address some 89 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 3: of these issues moving forward. 90 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 4: Well, absolutely, we have been. We're constantly looking for ways 91 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: to improve. We're constantly self critiquing our strategies and operational plans. 92 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 4: But we want to continue the trend that we currently 93 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: are enjoying of driving violent crime down. One of the 94 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 4: ways that we'll do that is making sure that we're 95 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 4: involving other community partners, and we've proven that that's been 96 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 4: successful when we have have an approach that involves our 97 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 4: entire community and that's not just involving the police alone. 98 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 4: We're definitely going to have greater success in that and 99 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 4: attacking and identifying people, places, and behavior that are contributing 100 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 4: to that crime, because we know that it's a small 101 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 4: percentage of our community that are contributing to this violence. 102 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 4: So we'll continue to be laser focused on those people, places, 103 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: and behaviors that are driving our crime stats up and 104 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 4: make an impact in that way, but with help of 105 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: our local, state, federal, and community partners. 106 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: FOP President Rick Snyder had nothing but glowing things to 107 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: say about you and your placement there is in the 108 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: role of the new IMPD chief. How important was it 109 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 2: for you to have the support of people under you 110 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: and the FOP and the president. 111 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 4: Oh, it's incredible. There's one thing that is certainly front 112 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 4: of mine for me, and that is bringing people together, 113 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 4: whether it's our labor union and the management or if 114 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 4: it's our officers in our community. That's one of my 115 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 4: goals is to work together with people to accomplish common 116 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 4: vision and goals. 117 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 3: We know that recruitment has been somewhat of an issue 118 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: the last couple of years now, I admit I haven't 119 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: seen the numbers for this past year, but is retainment 120 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: and recruitment something that you're focused on. 121 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 122 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: Of course, staffing and staffing challenges have been an extremely 123 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 4: pressing issue for our agency. We're down over three hundred 124 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 4: officers currently, and I would love to emphasize the fact 125 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 4: that we intend to focus on retention first and foremost. 126 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 4: That's short term. We want to make sure that the 127 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 4: people that work here, we have amazing sworn off the 128 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 4: incredible professional staff that have been dedicated and work tireless 129 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 4: hours to ensure safety in our community. We want to 130 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 4: make sure that they have the support of their department, 131 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 4: the support of their community, that they have the tools 132 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 4: that they need, that they have the training that they need, 133 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 4: and they have the wellness supports that they need to 134 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 4: stay healthy to continue to do the work that they're doing. 135 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 4: We know that if we have a healthy workforce, that 136 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 4: that is going to translate in our community through every 137 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:35,359 Speaker 4: interaction that our officers have with the members of our public. Additionally, 138 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 4: for the long term you mentioned recruiting. Of course, we're 139 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 4: going to strengthen our recruiting efforts. We'll be looking at 140 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 4: what's working in other cities, what's working in other communities, 141 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 4: and attempting to strengthen the partnerships that we have in 142 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 4: the community so that we can identify those who have 143 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 4: a heart to serve. We certainly need the help and 144 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 4: we welcome people that want to be a part of 145 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 4: something that's bigger than themselves, the people that want to 146 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 4: help somebody who can't help themselves. 147 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 3: Chief last thing here before we let you go, and 148 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: we appreciate your time. I know that when you first 149 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: got into policing with now the IMPD, you were friends 150 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: with David Moore, fallen officer, fallen hero David Moore. We 151 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 3: had talked about him recently as we celebrated his life 152 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: with the anniversary of his in in the. 153 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: Line of duty. Death, unfortunately. 154 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: But talk a little bit about your friendship with David Moore, 155 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: and it just kind of goes to show what your officers, 156 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 3: what you your crew deal with on the daily basis. 157 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 4: Absolutely, David was an incredible human being and an incredible 158 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 4: police officer, So what a wonderful combination. I had the 159 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 4: privilege to know him as a friend and to work 160 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 4: with him as a peer, and I would love to 161 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 4: share an important lesson that I learned from David. As 162 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 4: a senior officer, I had more experience. I was a 163 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: veteran and worked with David and had the pleasure to 164 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 4: learn from him the importance of compassion and empathy. So 165 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 4: David had a special skill of being the humanity and 166 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 4: every single person that he met, whether he was arresting 167 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 4: them and taking them to jail or he was helping 168 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 4: them on the side of the road, he treated everybody 169 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: with dignity and respect and compassion and empathy. And that 170 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: is something that I had carried with me. After knowing 171 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 4: him and seeing how he carried himself and seeing the 172 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 4: way he impacted those around him, it helped me to 173 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 4: see that there were more things in this world, more 174 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 4: things than brain making the law or not breaking the law. 175 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 4: It was deeper than black and white. It was important 176 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 4: to carry that on in his memory and remember that 177 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 4: in my daily work, and I think it's made me 178 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 4: a better person. And there would be no bigger cheerleader 179 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 4: and nobody happier than David to see this appointment with me. 180 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 3: Yep, he was a ron colleague kid. I was a 181 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: beach growth kid. So us Southsiders we kind of stick together. 182 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 3: I've been fortunate enough to meet his family at a 183 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: couple different FOP events and great people and it's important 184 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: for us on this program to always remember the heroes 185 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 3: that put their lives. 186 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: On the line. 187 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: Newly named IMPD Chief Tanya Terry. Tanya, We're wishing you 188 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: nothing but the best of luck and we'd love to 189 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 3: have you back on the program here. 190 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: Please don't be a stranger. 191 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 4: Absolutely, thank you for having me. I appreciate it. 192 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.