1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: All right, today's the day. 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 2: Yes, the Election Committee, they're going to discuss redistricting. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 3: You'll be there. 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 4: I will be there. It starts at one thirty, is 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 4: my understanding. The public can come and watch it in 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 4: action live at the State House. It streams on the 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 4: internet on the state's website if you want to watch 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 4: it there too. It'll be very interesting. So for those 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 4: who don't know byther, it's Kennlly Casey, Seoan Rob, that's Casey. 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 4: The Senate now gets the redistricting bill today. It's going 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 4: to be very close one way or another. According to 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 4: our friend Adam Wren of Politico, also in Portonville, they're 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 4: what we're supposed to tell people who people are. He 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 4: once dubbed me the most powerful broadcaster in the state 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 4: of Indiana. 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: In all the landes. 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 4: He claims that Braun was at some big shindig with 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 4: Trump over the weekend and Trump straight up asked him 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 4: in a room full of people, do you have the vote? 20 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 4: He said yes, and people are like ooh. And then 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 4: I pointed out to you. I said, well, what was 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 4: he going to say? 23 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: No? 24 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: No? Yeah, So would you do this weekend? Your governor 25 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: was at a White House Christmas Party. 26 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, really working hard on your behalf right, And so 27 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 4: it will go in front of the Elections Committee today. 28 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 4: The way it works is a bill is heard by 29 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 4: a committee. In order for it to go to the 30 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 4: full in this body, this case, the Senate, it has 31 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 4: to clear out of the committee three undecided will essentially 32 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 4: make the choice. I believe we know of at least 33 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 4: one Republican who's against it. There are two Democrats who 34 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 4: are against it, three Republicans who have announced support for it, 35 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 4: and then three Republicans who have not decided. Which two 36 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 4: of those have to go one way? Whatever it is. 37 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 4: If it dies in the committee, it will not get 38 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 4: a full Senate vote. I would be surprised if it 39 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 4: didn't end up going to the entire Senate. Would be 40 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 4: great if it didn't. But generally you'll hear the we 41 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 4: just want to move it forward, right, You'll hear the 42 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 4: i'm gonna vote. Sometimes you'll even see these guys go, 43 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,639 Speaker 4: I'm voting against this in front of the full Senate. 44 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: But I wanted to give it the courtesy of my 45 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 4: fellow senators an obligation. Don't know, don't know what's gonna 46 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 4: happen today, wouldn't be surprised on anything that takes place. 47 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 4: But again, I come back to what do you get 48 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 4: out of it? How does your life get any better? 49 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 4: Like take away the letters, just take away the letters 50 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 4: and the personalities. Is your life any better? Your daily existence? 51 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 4: I'm not talking about what you read in the headlines. 52 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 4: I'm talking about your daily existence. Is your daily existence 53 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 4: any better than it was eleven months ago when Donald 54 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 4: Trump took office. 55 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: No, And I think most people would say no, but 56 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 3: we strugg I mean, you could. 57 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: Say the borders more secure. 58 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: But has that affected you personally? I'm not talking about 59 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 4: what you've read in the news, or what you hear 60 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 4: reported or on a podcast or whatever else. I'm talking 61 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 4: about your daily actual existence. Is you life any better? 62 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 4: Price of gas has gone down because of why the 63 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 4: economy is constricted, it is harder to get a job. 64 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 4: And if you know what's interesting too, one of the 65 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 4: things I like to do for fun is explore what 66 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 4: houses are selling for in my community, just to try 67 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 4: to see how much my property taxes are likely to 68 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: go up going forward. And what's very interesting and Mark 69 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: Didel talked to real estate guru extraordinaire Mark Deele Great 70 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 4: Mark Deedle's sponsor of this program. Talking to us last time, 71 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 4: he was on about how homes are sitting on the 72 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 4: market longer and you're not seeing the elevation in prices 73 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 4: because of the constricting economy. And so if you're a 74 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: person who had to buy high to get in, we 75 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 4: predicted this a couple of years ago. Remember, we said, 76 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 4: what's gonna happen is eventually the economy is gonna reconstrict. 77 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: You can't bail yourself out of all this printed money 78 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 4: without cutting off a whole bunch of stuff, which will 79 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 4: constrict the economy. And then if you're a person who 80 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: bought in high, now you're gonna be stuck because the 81 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 4: bank's not gonna let you sell that house for the 82 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 4: in inflated price you paid for. 83 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: So you're stuck. And you're starting to see more and 84 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: more of that. Now. 85 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 4: Homes are still selling, some are still selling relatively quickly, 86 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: but a lot more are sitting longer, and they're not 87 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: getting the enhanced prices they were getting before, exactly as 88 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 4: we predicted. 89 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: Look, the economy's crap. Would you I mean, would you 90 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: argue that no? 91 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: Right? 92 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: And so gas has been a benefit, So if you 93 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: have a job, if you have the same job you had, 94 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 4: you'll benefit out of that, there's no doubt. But the 95 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 4: amount you're going to benefit out of saving three four dollars. 96 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 4: You know, if you have a large tank and you 97 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 4: fill up, how does that compare to what you're not 98 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 4: getting because the economy is constricting. 99 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're actually getting a pay cut because wages aren't 100 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: going up, but everything else is. For example, health insurance. 101 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 4: Well let's get into that, shall we. Sure, I mean 102 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 4: we are in the process. We talked about this a 103 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 4: little bit last week. Our company, the people who work here, 104 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 4: are looking at huge insurance premium spikes, which is happening, 105 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 4: as they laid out to us, at many other non 106 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 4: government into t ease all across the country. It's not 107 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 4: an urban one thing where they're doing some nefarious or 108 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 4: manipulative thing. They're in the same boat everybody else is in, 109 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 4: which is the price of all this stuff is skyrocketing 110 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 4: to the point where they can't absorb the cost. So 111 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 4: you and I have spent the weekend. Do I downgrade 112 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 4: my insurance? Do I get less insurance? Do I just 113 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 4: hope that I don't have a major medical catastrophe. You've 114 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 4: had to weigh the same thing. Obviously, you have multiple 115 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: people on your insurance plan, so yours is a little 116 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 4: different than mine. And so what do you do You're 117 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 4: getting no matter what we do, you're either going to 118 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 4: pay a lot more or you're going to get less 119 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 4: service for roughly the same amount of money. And that's 120 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 4: sort of the American way of life right now. Can 121 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: you for the same amount of money find a way, 122 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 4: whether it's shrink flation less food, you know whatever. And 123 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 4: I don't think that that makes people overly happy. 124 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: One of the things that you have to consider. You're 125 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: talking about what does this do for you. There are 126 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: some people who are doing well with the redistricting conversation, 127 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: and that is the the groups that have spent half 128 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: a million dollars in ads trying to sway a public 129 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: opinion both ways. 130 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 3: Right, both ways. 131 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 4: So you have said, seen a half a million dollars 132 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: pour in on both sides of the Look, I'm not 133 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 4: going to be a hypocrite. We benefit off of this, 134 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: right you hear these ads from both sides on these 135 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 4: radio on this radio station. I'm not gonna be a 136 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 4: hypocrite and say we haven't benefited from that, But I 137 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 4: will say I would much rather that money have gone 138 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 4: to property tax reform or fighting the rise. 139 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: Of utility bills. 140 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 4: And I keep coming back to the same thing that 141 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 4: that is what's amazing these lawmakers don't see it, don't care. 142 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 4: I don't know which one it is, but maybe it's 143 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 4: a little both. That when you had an opportunity to 144 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 4: fight for the people, people would be more invested in 145 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 4: you doing this if they felt you were doing something 146 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 4: for them. If having two more Republicans got us something, 147 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 4: some tangent benefit, if our lives had gotten better in 148 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 4: the past eleven months. Wow, look at what Republican leadership 149 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: got us. Look at what having the Republicans in the 150 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 4: House got us. Look at what having all three branches 151 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,239 Speaker 4: of government controlled by Republicans got us. If the average 152 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 4: person saw some benefit of that, they would go okay, 153 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 4: m hmm, okay. Even if I don't necessarily agree with 154 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 4: changing mapsmith cycle, at least I'm going to see some 155 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 4: benefit out of it. They see no benefit out of this, 156 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 4: because once again, at a state and a federal level, 157 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 4: the Republicans are not delivering. 158 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: For the people. 159 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: It is going to be a test of Donald Trump's 160 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: power here in Indiana. 161 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: And this kind of goes along with something. 162 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: Ronda Santis, Governor of Florida, he was on the Fox 163 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: and Friends Morning Show and he was saying how Congress 164 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: hasn't done anything since August. 165 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: Listen to this. 166 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: What should be the bullet points? 167 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 5: I think it's economy, Immigration. We don't talk about immigration 168 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 5: as much as we were maybe when Biden was letting 169 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 5: it in. The border is secure, we've stopped the influx. 170 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 5: He's now working on a moratorium of new people coming in, 171 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 5: particularly from some of these countries where the people are hostile. 172 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 5: That's a huge victory for people. Then need to be 173 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 5: talking about that and go even bolder on that. 174 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: I just think you got to be bold. I think 175 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: you got to be strong. 176 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 5: And I think one of the frustrations with the Congress 177 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 5: is what have they done since August till now? They 178 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 5: really haven't done anything right. And it's like if I'd 179 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 5: be like every day coming out with something new and 180 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 5: make the Democrats go on the record, show the contrast. 181 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 5: Think about what we've been able to win big in Floridas, 182 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 5: because there's a very sharp contrast to what we're doing 183 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 5: and what the what the liberal Democrats stand for, parents rights, 184 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 5: illegal immigration, you know, tax c anything you can think of. 185 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 5: Most voters knew we were on their side, and I 186 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 5: think you got to really make that sharp. But I 187 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 5: would tell you, you know, the Democrats they caused a 188 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 5: lot of this with the inflation, and now they're acting 189 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 5: like it's like they had nothing to. 190 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: Do with it. Are you do good on the couch? 191 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: You got to come in more? Yeah? I have. But wait, wait, 192 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: wait a second. You can. 193 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 4: Put that to the Republicans too. They act like it's 194 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 4: all Democrats that caused the inflation. Everybody's guilty in this. 195 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 4: And I get what he's saying, and he's right. Have 196 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 4: you noticed there's been almost no sales pitch of the 197 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 4: big bullcrap bill. 198 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, you haven't heard a lot about it. 199 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 4: Numerous publications have had articles about this that it's really 200 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 4: frustrating a lot of these especially you know, House members 201 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 4: are going to be in these tight races, who say, 202 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 4: wait a second, we went on a limb for you. 203 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 4: We voted on something that was deemed very kind of 204 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 4: unpopular when it passed. And normally when a president gets 205 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 4: a signature agenda item, he goes out around the country whereases. 206 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: People go out and keeps talking about it. 207 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: You haven't seen any of this. 208 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 4: We had Ben and I were talking Ben Verbannick from 209 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 4: Tara hate Whi and Tara Hote. We were having conversation 210 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 4: last night with our waitress when were out watching the 211 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 4: Bears game and there was almost nobody in this bar 212 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 4: last night, and we were like, dude, usually Sundays are 213 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 4: pretty good when the NFL's going on. People go out 214 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 4: do stuff. And we were talking to her. She goes, well, 215 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: you know, last night was just super packed. But she 216 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 4: was saying, this is more of a reflection now, not 217 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 4: on Fridays or Saturdays they do okay, but the day 218 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 4: to day operations or flow is more of what you're 219 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: seeing here on this Sunday rather than how well we 220 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 4: did on the you know, the game last night. 221 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: That was more than norm through the week. 222 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: Right. 223 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: And then when Ben and I were walking back to 224 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 4: the to the radio station, this is seven thirty, right, 225 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 4: We're not talking. 226 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: This is not midnight. 227 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 4: This is seven thirty on a Sunday and the city's vacant, 228 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 4: like there's nobody. 229 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: It's like some. 230 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 4: Dystopian like or well thing, and we're looking around at 231 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: all these businesses, including these high end restaurants, and we're saying, 232 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 4: I wonder how they're doing it, because not only you're 233 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 4: not seeing people out on the streets. 234 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: And again, it's Christmas time. 235 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 4: As a kid, you know, kid or even an adulting 236 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 4: come down here, trees lit up, people are coming to 237 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 4: see the thing. It's a Sunday night. The weather wasn't 238 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 4: you know, it wasn't sixty and sunny, but it also 239 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 4: wasn't minus ten. You normally see all sorts of people 240 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: out and about, and there's nobody here. And so one 241 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 4: of the problems the Republicans are having is the same 242 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 4: thing the Democrats had last year, which is, you can 243 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: put up whatever numbers you want and you can say, 244 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 4: oh this, by this measure, the economy's great. You can't 245 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 4: make people not believe in their own experience. You can't 246 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 4: make people not believe their own life that they're living. 247 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: Day to day. And it's like Trump's doing the same 248 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: thing Biden did. No, no, no, it's great. Well, but 249 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: it's not. 250 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 2: Another thing that Ron DeSantis was saying was that a 251 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: lot of the Republicans, they rode into office on Trump's cotails, 252 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: and they're not going to be able to do that again. 253 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: A couple things. 254 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 5: One, in an off year mid term, the party in 255 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 5: powers voters tend to be more complacent. Party out of power, 256 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 5: they get upset, right, That's just the nature of midterms. 257 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 5: We saw it when Obama was in and Republicans can 258 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 5: so that dynamic is always going to be there. And 259 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 5: then I think Republicans have an issue that Donald Trump 260 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 5: has created a big pool of voters, but some of 261 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 5: them are unique to him, right, So they will go 262 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 5: vote for Trump and they'll vote for all the Republicans 263 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 5: when Trump's on the ball but if he's not on 264 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 5: the ballot, some of them don't vote. Now, you can, 265 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 5: you can overcome that we did in Florida in twenty 266 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 5: twenty two. You know, we had a state that was 267 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 5: a purple state, one point state. We won by a 268 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 5: million and a half votes, twenty points, the biggest Republican 269 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 5: victory ever. But we did that based on results and substance. 270 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 5: We did it by flying under a banner of bold colors, 271 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 5: not pale patals. We were sticking it to the left 272 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 5: every single day and delivering big victory. 273 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: So it can be done. 274 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 5: But I think it's like You can't go on twenty 275 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 5: twenty four and say, oh, well, we Republicans won this 276 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 5: district by ten points, so therefore we're going to win 277 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 5: it because President Trump was the reason. 278 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: You want to what do you say? 279 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, let's take a break, because that's the that's 280 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 4: the money quote, right, he says it. Nobody loves it. Yeah, 281 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 4: I say it, and people are outraged. I want to 282 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 4: take a break because that is everything I have just 283 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 4: said about this whole redistricting thing. 284 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: Is that is that is our show? Is that amazing? 285 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: Guys like that say it? They go, oh that's great, 286 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: that's right. What do you say? They go, we hope 287 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: you die. 288 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 2: It's Kennily Casey, it's ninety three WYBC. 289 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 1: Okay, we got to play that. 290 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 4: Ron to Sanda's audio again because that's that's everything we've 291 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 4: been saying about redistricting for months, and it's always fascinating 292 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 4: to me. 293 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: People here for the thing. 294 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 4: You know, if you're decent, a little nicer, bad, it 295 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 4: might get further. Okay, Well one, I'm not an officeholder, 296 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 4: so I'm not trying to win anybody over. And case 297 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 4: I think you could thought on it caught onto this 298 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 4: very quickly. I say things the way I do so 299 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 4: people will talk about it more. Because the only way 300 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 4: we're gonna fix this stuff is for enough people to 301 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 4: wake up and start talking about it. And it ain't 302 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 4: only gonna be Rob Kendall that's going to do anything 303 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 4: about it. But if I can start the conversation on 304 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 4: whatever the topic is, or keep the conversation going, and 305 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 4: keep people talking about it in their own lives, then 306 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 4: that's how it's ultimately gonna get fixed. I don't come 307 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 4: in here every day going I almost say something and think, 308 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 4: you know, it's gonna get fixed. And the colorful way 309 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 4: that I describe things. 310 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 3: In people, some flowery language is very. 311 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 4: Effective at keeping converses going. But so Desanta's Ronda, Santa's 312 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 4: governor Florida was aunt was this Fox and Friends? 313 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: Is that right? 314 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 4: And he's talking about so what have we said from 315 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 4: the beginning? People would be for redistricting, or more people 316 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 4: would be for it if they saw some benefit to it. 317 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 4: Happenings and people would actually, you don't even need redistricting. 318 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 4: People would vote for your candidate if you did something 319 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 4: that gave them a compelling reason to be for you. 320 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 4: The reason the Republicans can't win the first congressional swing 321 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 4: district in the Chicago Land area is because they don't 322 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 4: give people compelling reason to be on their team. It's winnable. 323 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 4: It's five points every time. If you just did something 324 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 4: worth motivating people, they'd be like, we can't wait to 325 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 4: vote for those people. 326 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: The same thing with Indianapolis. 327 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 4: People fled Indianapolis people have left, and then you rigged 328 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 4: the district for decades now, but even just the most 329 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 4: recent time because you needed to save other Republicans because 330 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 4: you weren't giving people a reason to vote for you. 331 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 4: Ron DeSantis said this same thing and talked about how 332 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 4: he we did it in Florida. 333 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 5: You know, we had a state that was a purple state, 334 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 5: one point state. We won by a million and a 335 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 5: half votes, twenty points, the biggest Republican victory ever. But 336 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 5: we did that based on results and substance. We did 337 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 5: it by flying under a banner of bold colors, not 338 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 5: pale pastals. We were sticking it to the left every 339 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 5: single day and delivering big victory. 340 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: So it can be done. 341 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 5: But I think it's like, you can't go on twenty 342 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 5: twenty four and say, oh, well, we Republicans won this 343 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 5: district by ten points, so therefore we're gonna win it 344 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 5: because President Trump is the reason you want to What 345 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 5: do you say? 346 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 4: You have to Whatever the thing is, you have to 347 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 4: continually give people a reason to engage in it. Look, 348 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 4: just use the show as an example. People say heinous, 349 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 4: horrible things about me on social media, on our YouTube chat, 350 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 4: everywhere every day. 351 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: What do they do? They listen, They come back. 352 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 4: Because we give them a compelling reason. Hey, what are 353 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 4: they gonna do today? I may hate this guy like you, 354 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 4: you're just an innocent victim and all this. I may 355 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 4: hate this guy, but he's They're interesting. They're going to 356 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 4: do stuff we're not going to hear anywhere else. Have 357 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 4: you seen the new ratings case fabulous as always right? 358 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 4: Every time, that's it, they're done. It's all over for them. No, 359 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 4: And it's the same thing with politics. You have to 360 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 4: continually give people a reason to say, Okay, I'm going 361 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: to go with them because I've seen a tangible betterment, 362 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 4: a tangible benefit in my life, and the Republicans in. 363 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: The state should just do that. 364 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, people would vote for them in the first if 365 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 4: they would give them a reason. 366 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: To do it. 367 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ron de Santas saying that some of these voters 368 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: they only show up for Donald Trump, and when he's 369 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: not on the ballot, they're just going to stay home. 370 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: So these other Republicans have to introduce some bills that 371 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: affect the average American. That's how they're going to get votes. 372 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 4: It all comes back to the same thing and why 373 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 4: people are upset with the Republicans. And it's always the 374 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 4: same stuff. It rears its head in different forms, but 375 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 4: it comes back to and out of control federal government, 376 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 4: out of control spending. Now it is in the form 377 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 4: of inflation, right, and that is the affordability and the 378 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 4: cost of living, and the Republicans have done absolutely nothing 379 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 4: to fix that issue. It's not going to get any 380 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 4: better between now and the time of the election. And 381 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 4: so people naturally because at a conversation this was last 382 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 4: week with a very influential Democrat, not a politician, but 383 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 4: somebody who's a major player in Indiana politics and government. 384 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 4: And they told me, they said one of the things 385 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 4: that people like us. He was talking about his role 386 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 4: and he was talking about me in the medium. 387 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: And you and I have mentioned this many times. 388 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 4: We lose site or the media and the politicians and 389 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 4: the political class lose sight of where the average person is, 390 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 4: and the average person has next to zero investment in 391 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 4: this the way we do. The average person doesn't care 392 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 4: about the personalities. They don't care about the drama, they 393 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 4: don't care about sides, they don't care about teams. That's 394 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 4: something we've invented. The average person votes based on where 395 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 4: is my life at. Is this person doing a good 396 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 4: job with whatever responsibility they have been entrusted with, and 397 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 4: do I think based on their performance? Can I get 398 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 4: somebody else to do it better? 399 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 5: Right? 400 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: Like again, sometimes that's just lack of scandal. 401 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: Well, it is, it can be, it can be. 402 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: Look who is the arguably best thought of politician in 403 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 4: the state House from the state wide perspective. It's Daniel Elliott, 404 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 4: You're right, State treasure Why because he just goes to 405 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 4: work and. 406 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: Does his job, does his job. Lack of scandal, right, 407 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: He goes to work, he. 408 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 4: Does the things he lays out, when he does things, 409 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 4: the reasons he does them. He will go against his party, 410 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 4: he will challenge his party, as we saw like with 411 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 4: the banking bill, when the time is right. But he's 412 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 4: not a celebrity. People in our in our state house, 413 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 4: these people in Washington, d C. They see themselves as celebrities. 414 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 4: Now diego Micah Rokeeda Braun. Those people see themselves as 415 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,239 Speaker 4: celebrities first and elected people second. So everything they do 416 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 4: is about how much attention can they grab and it 417 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 4: totally alien aid based on Look at the polling on 418 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 4: those people compared to a Daniel Elliott who is about 419 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 4: government competence. Look at how they're viewed versus how he's viewed, 420 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 4: and so and so people are going to vote. Most 421 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 4: people vote based on where is my life at. They 422 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 4: don't care about your star status, they don't care about 423 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 4: your Instagram, they don't care about your Lincoln Day speech. 424 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 4: They simply care about is my life better? Is this 425 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 4: person doing something for me? And for the Republicans. The 426 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 4: answer next year, unless they change very quickly, which they're 427 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 4: not going to do, is going to be a resounding no. 428 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 4: But they've earned that, Casey, they're not victims in this. 429 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 2: Inspire the voters and watch the map flip automatically on 430 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 2: its own. 431 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 4: They have earned the ire of the voter because they 432 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 4: had a chance, again with all layers of government, to 433 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 4: fix it, and they haven't done it. 434 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: It's Kendall and Casey. 435 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 2: It's ninety three WIBC. 436 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: You had touched on this earlier. 437 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: In the program. 438 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 4: Obviously we have people, thousands of people coming and going 439 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: through at the course of this highly acclaimed the radio show, 440 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 4: and I thought it'd be good to come back to. 441 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 4: And you were talking about the amount of wealth that 442 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 4: the tippy top people have amassed. 443 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: Is that this is the past year. 444 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the wealth of the top one percent has 445 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: reached fifty two trillion dollars. How much, fifty two trillions, 446 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 2: So the top ten percent of Americans added five trillion 447 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 2: dollars to their wealth and that was in the second 448 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: quarter of this year, mostly because the stock market did 449 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: really well and that benefited bigger, the biggest investors. 450 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I remember this years ago. 451 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 4: It's funny because he did the exact opposite when the. 452 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: Chips were down. 453 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 4: But in the very first presidential debate primary in twenty 454 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 4: fifteen with Trump, they were talking about the economy and 455 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 4: they were talking about interest rates and one of the things, 456 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 4: and it's I mean, it's hilarious, not in the sense 457 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 4: of it's funny, but it's ironic. Now looking back on it, 458 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 4: Trump said, he goes one of the worst things you 459 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 4: could do for the economy is lower the interest rates, 460 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: because rich guys like me benefit the most, he said, 461 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 4: because I'll be able to borrow money at one or 462 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 4: two percent, and the amount of money that I'll borrow 463 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 4: one or two percent, I'll do way more with it 464 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 4: than some regular person would be able to do because 465 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 4: they can't afford the thing they'd be trying to do anyway, 466 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 4: And ironic because that's exactly what he did during COVID, 467 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 4: which what who benefited during COVID the tippy top people 468 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 4: and the governments. The regular people got totally totally screwed. 469 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 4: And so now like you're saying, you're seeing in the 470 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 4: wake of Catalyst was the massive money printing, factory and 471 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 4: interest rate cuts of the of the twenty twenty year. 472 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: Look at who benefited the. 473 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: Most well, and to your point, they say that wealthy 474 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 2: Americans drive almost half forty nine point two percent of 475 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: all consumer spending, and that's the highest that it's been 476 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: since nineteen eighty nine. They're calling it a K shaped economy, 477 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: and that's where the rich do very well while others 478 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: grow slowly. 479 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 4: It was fascinating because you know my wife and II 480 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 4: there's fifteen years difference between us, right, so we are. 481 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 4: She is experiencing things that I experienced in my mid twenties, 482 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 4: and I will tell her things and then she'll go, 483 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 4: but you don't understand. And I got to go, oh, 484 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 4: I do because I've been through it. But she's reading 485 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 4: this book on artificial intelligence and she most of our 486 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 4: audience knows, but she works in the field of cybersecurity. 487 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 4: And I asked her, I said, what are you doing 488 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 4: with that? And she said, well, she said, the next 489 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 4: logical step for me, because she's advancing fairly rapidly in 490 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 4: her career. She doesn't see it as being rapid, but 491 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 4: it is when you have perspective on something like this. 492 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 4: She said, the next logical step of the thing that 493 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 4: you will still need some level of human oversight in 494 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 4: is artificial intelligence. And she said, but I'm having to 495 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,239 Speaker 4: prepare for what in my field will always need or 496 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 4: for the foreseeable future, will need some level of human oversight. 497 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 4: And I was sitting there hearing her say that, and said, 498 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 4: think about this is a person in their mid twenties 499 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 4: and her rear path is going to be dictated on 500 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: what will still need some level of human oversight. That's 501 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 4: a horrible abyss to be staring into because most people, 502 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 4: myself included, don't have near the skill set she has. 503 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 4: So she will still likely keep getting jobs and elevating. 504 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 4: But the average person, the grunts, for a lack of 505 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 4: you know, you know, the rank and file, they're screwed. 506 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 4: Look at the abyss we're staring into where the tippy 507 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 4: top people are like, yeah, I'm really needing to look 508 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 4: ahead to see what will need human interaction because there 509 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 4: ain't gonna be much of it. 510 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: Well, wasn't it Elon Musk who was saying that in 511 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: the future, a job will be elective, you can choose 512 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: whether you want to work or not. 513 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 4: Well, that's and that was the argument that guys like 514 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 4: well Andrew Yang remember when he ran for president several 515 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 4: years ago, was it president? 516 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: He ran for twenty twenty, Yes, he. 517 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 4: Was twenty twenty, and he was talking about the idea 518 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 4: of universal basic income and he said, look, I'm not 519 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 4: saying this is a socialist thing. 520 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying this is. 521 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 4: A reality that technology is quickly phasing people out. And 522 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 4: if we as a society and it makes more and 523 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 4: more sense by the day, if we as a society 524 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 4: are going to have giveaways of tax money to these 525 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 4: companies that are phasing people out, then they deserve to 526 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 4: share that in it's sort of a profit sharing program 527 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 4: since they fronted the cash or the resources for these 528 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 4: companies to come into our country and be able to 529 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 4: do these things. And so sort of like you're going 530 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 4: to see this weird thing in the future of our 531 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 4: economy where if you learned a skill plumber, roof for carpenter, electrician, 532 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 4: you're gonna be okay because they'll need those people to 533 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 4: do that. And if you've learned a skill on the 534 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 4: other end, where like my wife is, in terms of technology, 535 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 4: you're gonna maybe be okay. But there's gonna be this 536 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 4: huge group of people in the middle who were taught 537 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 4: just go get a four year degree, just go to 538 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 4: work each day, just go where some white collar job, 539 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: and you're gonna be fine. Those people are getting right 540 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 4: now rapidly constricted to the point where ten years from now, 541 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 4: maybe they don't even exist. 542 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 2: It's interesting that she's reading a book. It would seem 543 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 2: to me that the book would be outdated the second 544 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: it's in it as quickly as things change. 545 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know Casey. I don't know 546 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: what she does. 547 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: I don't know what she's doing back there. 548 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 4: The other day, like I'm such an old person. I 549 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 4: was having trouble with something on the computer, and I said, 550 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 4: do you know how to do you know how to 551 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 4: do this? And she just goes. I can tell like 552 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 4: she's sitting on the couch. 553 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: She just goes, and she just. 554 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 4: Walks up and goes boom boom, and then just looks 555 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 4: at me, and I was like, thank you. 556 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: My job is to talk about the things, not know 557 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: how they operate. 558 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: So yesterday was a day that will live an infamy. 559 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 2: Pearl Harbor, that's right, eighty four years ago. Yes, only 560 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 2: twelve of these sur there's only twelve of the survivors 561 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 2: that have lasted. They're all centurions. 562 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 4: Now, well, it's actually amazing that there's that many when 563 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 4: you think about it was eighty four years ago. I mean, 564 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 4: how many people lived to one hundred? 565 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: So none of them were able to attend ceremony in Hawaii. 566 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: That's horrible. 567 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 4: But I come back to that, if you'd told me 568 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 4: how many people are still living, I would not have 569 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 4: thought it would have been that many, because that means 570 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 4: in all likelihood, there's that many was sixteen Is that 571 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 4: what you said? Twelve twelve? Sorry, there's twelve people of 572 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 4: that single event that lived to be one hundred years 573 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 4: or most of them more well beyond one hundred years old. 574 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 4: That's pretty amazing. 575 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: I always remember a story that my grandmother told me 576 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 2: that she was in Ohio and she was taking a 577 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: train across the country to see my grandfather who was 578 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: able to get leave, and my mother was a baby 579 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: and she was sick on the train. My mother was 580 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 2: sick on the train and was just crying NonStop, and 581 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: a stranger went to my grandmother and said, let me 582 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: watch your baby for a while. You take a nap. 583 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: Oh you need a break. You never do that today, right, 584 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: You would never turn your baby over to a stranger 585 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 2: and let them watch. 586 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: The child after yesterday? 587 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 3: I might, but that just shows. 588 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: You, I mean, how different you would. Nobody would ever 589 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: even offer that now? Oh no, And then if somebody 590 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 2: did offer, you probably wouldn't take him up on it. 591 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 4: By the way, did you see Bronze, big thing is 592 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 4: now you can bring your baby to work. So he 593 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 4: cut out the work from home and we're gonna run 594 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 4: short on time here. What an idiot. So he cuts 595 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 4: out the work from home because that was everything he 596 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 4: was getting his orders from Trump. And then he's like, 597 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 4: oh man, everybody's pissed off. Well, I can't rescind the 598 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 4: order because I'll make Trump mad. So you can bring 599 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 4: your baby to work. 600 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 3: Your baby to work? 601 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: What? 602 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the guy running our state. Hey, I 603 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 4: realized you just shot that shorty out about three months ago. 604 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 4: The thing you're gonna want to do is try to 605 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 4: do some work while it's screaming in your ear. 606 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: You're going to out. 607 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 2: Start in the Governor's office and the Department of Health 608 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 2: is where that test pilot. 609 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: We are so cooked. 610 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: Casey, It's Kennell and Casey. It's ninety three WYBC. 611 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: Casey, did you ever have like a. 612 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,479 Speaker 4: Super special Christmas wish when you were growing up? 613 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: No? I never had a special wish, but I did 614 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 2: have some special gifts that I got over the years. 615 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 4: When you were a kid, there was not like one 616 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 4: thing you really wanted, Like, there was not some gift 617 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 4: that stood out to you that you just so badly wanted. 618 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 2: Okay, well, for the longest time I wanted a monkey, 619 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: like a pet monk, like a live monkey. Yeah, like 620 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: a chimpanzee, like one of those ones. 621 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: That escaped at the zoop. Yeah you're not getting that. 622 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 3: No, I know. 623 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: I wasn't getting that, but I was young. I thought, Oh, 624 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: they're cute, they're cuddly. I want a monkey. Right. Wait? 625 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 4: Wait, you realistically thought someone was going to give you. 626 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 4: Your parents weren't shutting that down? 627 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 3: Well, I mean I didn't really think it was going 628 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 3: to happen. 629 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: We didn't even have a dog when I was growing up, right, 630 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: but I it was on my wish list, you said, 631 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: a Christmas wish list. 632 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 4: If you're the lead boy, anything can happen with a pony. 633 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: Well what I did get instead was a stuffed monkey 634 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: that my grandma. 635 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: Sewed for me. 636 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: Oh that's way better. 637 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 3: And I loved that monkey for. 638 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: Years and yeah, so much better. 639 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, it was. 640 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: It was a sentimental gift for many years as I 641 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: got older. 642 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: Okay. 643 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 4: The reason I ask this is because there's a new 644 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 4: every year. It seems like there's an it gift. 645 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 3: Right, like a new hot toy. 646 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 4: Yeah m hmm. And this year, that's very interesting. What 647 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 4: the new hot gift is from adults. 648 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Americans just want you to pay their bills. 649 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 3: That's it. You know what. 650 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: The the desired gift this year is cash. It's the 651 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: top holiday gift request, not a gift, many hoping for 652 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: more than six hundred dollars, though, like asking for a lot. There, 653 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: One in five Americans say help paying their financial their 654 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: bills would be the ideal present. Oh yeah, help me 655 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: with my finances. 656 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 657 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 4: I mean, look, if you're gonna do something nice, so 658 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 4: that's fine. But cash is not a I mean, it 659 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 4: is a gift, right, but it's just like you shouldn't 660 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 4: be asking give me money, right, I. 661 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 3: Don't know, you know, it seems not very personal, right, but. 662 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 4: It does show where we're at in our society or 663 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 4: the number one thing on people's mind is just please 664 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 4: give me money. 665 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 3: It's practical. 666 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: It is, no, it totally is. 667 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 3: It's not a waste, right, that's something you really need. 668 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 3: Pay my bills. 669 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: People are spending over eleven hundred dollars on gifts. They're 670 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: expecting that they'll receive less in return, so they're giving 671 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: a lot they're expecting less. But financial stress continues to 672 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 2: cause about forty one percent of people to cut back 673 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 2: after the holidays. 674 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 4: Other than I don't know, I mean, like when I 675 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 4: was a kid, other than my grandparents, like I stop 676 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 4: getting slash asking for gifts. I think when I was 677 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 4: around like fourteen. 678 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: When you were expected to buy some in return. 679 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 4: Well, it's like okay to my you know, it was 680 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 4: like with my dad, it was like, if I want someone, 681 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 4: I'm just going to ask you for We don't need 682 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 4: to go some through. 683 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: Some big charade here. 684 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 4: And as a kid, just like I am now as 685 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 4: basically that child version of a minimalist, right, and so 686 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 4: it's like, I don't know, gifts have never just been 687 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 4: a huge thing to me because whether it's a birthday 688 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 4: or Christmas. You know, my wife wants something, she'll go 689 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 4: buy it, just go get it, just go get it. 690 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 4: That's the way we are now. 691 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: We have a running joke in my house. 692 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 4: It's called the credit card bandit because the credit card 693 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 4: band we have this very kind person, Casey. It's very odd, 694 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 4: well kind in the sense that they steal my credit card. 695 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes it'll go missing for. 696 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 4: Days at a time, and then it'll just magically show 697 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 4: back up in my wallet. Like days at a time 698 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 4: it'll go missing, and and and so whenever it goes 699 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 4: back in the wallet, I will look at my wife 700 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 4: and go, oh my gosh, and she'll go what, And 701 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 4: I'll say that kind credit card bandit who racked up 702 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 4: these charges? 703 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: I can see them right line, who did that? And 704 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: I said, you would love I. 705 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 4: Tell my wife, I said, you would love to meet 706 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 4: the credit card bandit because his or her interests are 707 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 4: the exact same as. 708 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: Your Oh isn't that weird? That's so weird that that happens. Yeah, 709 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: as you get older, gift giving is it's more difficult 710 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 2: because if you're buying for an adult, just you know, 711 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 2: they don't buy what they want. 712 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 4: Or work through this with me because I tell my 713 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 4: parents Gabrielle side. 714 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: Of the family, no, no, no gifts. I'd like, there's 715 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: nothing I want. 716 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 4: I'm a minimalist, Like I'm out of space in my 717 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 4: house as it is. Right, But your daughter is twenty 718 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 4: four years old? Do you still get her stuff for Christmas? 719 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 3: I do? Really, yeah, but you know what it. 720 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: Tends to be stuff like that she won't buy for herself. 721 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: It's like once a year sort of oh yeah, like 722 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 2: she likes to use this, she puts this hair oil 723 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 2: stuff on her hair to make it glossy and beautiful. 724 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: But it's a little expensive, so she's not going to 725 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: buy that regularly for herself. 726 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so it's stuff she'll use. 727 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, definitely not buy her PlayStation. No, no, we're 728 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 3: long past those. 729 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine because that's something 730 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 4: that you would say, I recognize you'll do this for yourself. 731 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 4: I'd like to do this for you. You will use 732 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 4: this all year, so you'll think of me all year. 733 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and she does actually, and she's getting smart too. 734 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 2: She's starting to request consumables, things that she'll use, not 735 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: just stuff. 736 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: Do you and your husband do you guys do Christmas gift? 737 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 2: You know? 738 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: What do you get him? Another? A press? Another presser? 739 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: He what did he buy? He bought himself some light 740 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 2: something or another. I asked him, just somew is some 741 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 2: light for his social media, not like a ring light, 742 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 2: but something like that. 743 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 3: I don't even know what it is. 744 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: I literally asked him this weekend, what do you want 745 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: for Christmas? And he said, oh, I already went on 746 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: Amazon and bought it. And they said, well, what is it? 747 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 2: If I'm giving it to you, can you at least 748 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 2: like I won't find out what it is until I 749 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 2: go to wrap it. 750 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 3: You put it under the tree. 751 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 4: Oh wait, you're going through the whole process. You're just 752 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 4: to let him have it and start using it. He 753 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 4: has to go through the hole. 754 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 3: He said. 755 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: It's in his office already, like it came from Amazon. 756 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 3: I don't know if he's using it or if it's 757 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 3: still in the box. 758 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 4: But you're actually gonna wrap it up. I will to 759 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 4: open it, even though he may have already used it. 760 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 2: Yes, so that I can say to our daughter, look 761 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 2: what I bought your dad for Christmas? 762 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 3: I have no idea even what it is. 763 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: My wife and I, uh, we have never done gifts. Never. 764 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 4: No, I can't think of anything that I got her. 765 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: Well you know how she is. Yeah, she's worse about 766 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: it than I am. 767 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 3: She'll just go get with you. 768 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: Well that's my point. It's like, why would I the 769 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: credit card band? Well, the credit card. 770 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 4: Bandit will just and why would I get something hold 771 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 4: it for like three or four weeks if she wants 772 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 4: to just let her use it? 773 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 1: Now, what do I care? 774 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 2: Well, what do you guys do on Christmas to celebrate 775 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 2: each other? 776 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: Well, we have Olivia. Okay, look at what we made. 777 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 4: Yes, well got made, but look look at look at 778 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 4: what we participated. 779 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 1: Right. 780 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazing to me as as gargoylish as I am, 781 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 4: that I have a kid that that's beautiful, That is 782 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 4: that beautiful. 783 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 2: She is a door. 784 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: It takes after her mother. Yeah, and she one of 785 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 1: my quality. 786 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 2: She's going to love Christmas this year. Oh yeah, because 787 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: she'll understand. 788 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 4: It and uh yeah yeah yeah, so we're gonna go 789 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 4: see Sannah and all that, all that stuff. So this 790 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 4: is a big and she It's amazing how quick your 791 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 4: kid learns at this age. So like obviously last year 792 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 4: she was too young to understand any right, And within 793 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 4: like a week of showing her the cartoons of Sanna, 794 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 4: she went from when she would see Santa, she would 795 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 4: point out him and go ho ho ho, And a 796 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 4: week later, Sannah, that's amazing. 797 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: Do you guys have the tree up yet? 798 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:34,479 Speaker 3: Not yet? 799 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: Very lazy. I need to do that. 800 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 3: I did it this weekend. 801 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 4: I was planning on doing it today, however, and I 802 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 4: got to waste several hours of my day going to 803 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 4: talk to those steam people down the street from us. 804 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 2: Are you going to tell them what you're Number One 805 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: Christmas gift item is money. 806 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 3: Pay your bills. 807 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: Please pay my bills. You're paying everyone else's bills. Can 808 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: you please pay mine? All right? 809 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 2: I'm done, all right, good luck speaking to the Senate 810 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 2: Committee on Redistricting. 811 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: Very glad to see me. 812 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: We're all counting on you. Thank you, Rob, Thank you, Kevin, 813 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening today. This is being Kettling Casey 814 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 2: on ninety three WIBC.