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Speaker 1: Why from dall Hertliner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: So you've got Marco Rubio in Geneva working on a

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Speaker 2: on the phone with Jijuan Ping today, as reported he

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Speaker 2: is the despot of China. Might not let's say that? No,

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Speaker 2: you know, sorry, I just thought. I just thought, you know,

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Speaker 2: being an honest would matter a conversation at US Chinese relations,

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Speaker 3: So what comes from that? Hey?

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Speaker 2: Talking world leaders is part of the gig Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today. Good to be here, Good to be

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Speaker 2: with you. Find everything I do over at Tony kats

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Speaker 2: dot com.

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Speaker 3: And it was.

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Speaker 2: Marco Rubio speaking to the press assembled there in Geneva, saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: Pretty great. Good day today.

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Speaker 4: I think we made a tremendous amount of progress even

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Speaker 4: from the last time I spoke to you, and I

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Speaker 4: apologize for keeping you waiting, but there was more work

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: We began almost three weeks ago with a foundational document

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Speaker 4: create a foundational document, which has been an ongoing working document.

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Speaker 4: In fact, over the last ninety six hours or more,

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Speaker 4: there's been extensive engagement with the Ukrainian side, including our

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Speaker 4: We arrived here today with one goal, and the goal

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Speaker 4: and we have achieved that today in a very substantial way. Now, obviously,

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Speaker 4: like any final agreement, they'll have to be agreed upon

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Speaker 2: But I think I assume one of those issues is

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Speaker 2: This was a little bit confusing over the weekend because

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Speaker 3: Was this deal was somehow not our deal. The reporting

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Speaker 2: That this was a deal that was put forward by

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Speaker 3: And then that didn't happen, and Trump said, okay, well

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say I did what I could promise, has

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Speaker 2: Easier to give Ukraine to give, to get Ukraine to

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Speaker 3: In that Oval office dust up, they don't have the cards.

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Speaker 3: It's JD.

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Speaker 2: Vance who played it wrong. It's Donald Trump who played

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Speaker 2: Vance pushed back on on Vladimir's Zelenski, why haven't you

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Speaker 3: And that's when Trump stepped in and said, you don't

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Speaker 2: Here we are today, Here we are today, and Marco

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Speaker 4: The report today is that I think today was worthwhile.

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Speaker 4: It is probably the most productive day we have had

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Speaker 4: but certainly in a very long time. But work remains,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to declare victory or finality here. There's

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Speaker 3: For certain.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that the deal is working. I'm glad that

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Speaker 3: The question before us is whose deal is this?

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Speaker 2: Because these senators said, this is not the American deal,

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Speaker 2: this is a Russian wish list, to which.

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Speaker 2: Rubio come out and say that is absolutely not the case.

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Speaker 2: This is one thousand percent our deal. So it is

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Speaker 2: our deal to tell Ukraine to give it up.

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Speaker 3: This is over. There's a part of this that does

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Speaker 2: And the part that does not come pute is the

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Speaker 2: part of US selling.

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Speaker 3: Weaponry to NATO.

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Speaker 2: And NATO was going to have a large play inside Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: Trump's doing great here and doing great there, and they're

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Speaker 2: not going to go to Ukraine. We're still Europeans at heart,

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Speaker 2: and we're just afraid because that's what it looks like.

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Speaker 3: There was a lot of discussion.

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Speaker 2: About how NATO was going to be strong and they

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 3: Certainly possible.

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Speaker 2: They can't lose as many people as the Russians can lose.

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Speaker 2: I think this is more a conversation of everybody else

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Speaker 3: They're not. We don't have to even question that.

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Speaker 2: But you can't identify or you can't what's the best

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Speaker 3: To get in many ways rewarded with an invasion.

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Speaker 3: There's a reality to this.

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Speaker 2: I don't say no, But what happened here is Vladimir

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Speaker 3: I can't see how Ukraine's gonna walk away. Do I

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Speaker 2: I think it's ugly as can be. Sometimes his reality

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be here, Good

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Speaker 3: Find everything I do over.

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Speaker 3: Epstein files? No, not at all.

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Speaker 2: I have never had an issue with Thomas Massey, and

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Speaker 3: They're all lies.

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Speaker 2: And that's how it goes for another eight plus minutes,

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Speaker 3: Which they will. I'm not being a part of that.

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Speaker 2: She spent over nine minutes creating a video that could

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats.

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Speaker 7: In March of twenty twenty four. I wrote a piece

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Speaker 2: That was really weird, Like everything just started repeating, sorry

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Speaker 3: I was really weird. The wrong button. Tell me. Everything

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Speaker 2: Who Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Find everything I do over tonykats dot com. That is

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Speaker 2: Scott Bessen't. He was on Meet the Press with Kristen

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Speaker 3: In March of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 7: and so across the board, prices are starting to come down.

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Speaker 7: We're having Thanksgiving week. This will be the lowest cost

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Speaker 2: You got to stop it with the Thanksgiving dinner stuff.

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Speaker 2: No one believes that one at all. You sound ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: You sound like Joe Biden saying, look at how much

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Speaker 3: I know this because I was told this. It happened.

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Speaker 2: You know, I talked about Steve Bannon playing the clip

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Speaker 3: Sound ridiculous, Steve, ridiculous. I'm embarrassed for you on that one.

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Speaker 3: And why they're working.

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Speaker 2: You cannot tell people things are getting better. You have

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Speaker 2: That's reality. So Besson's can lecture with his perfectly pressed

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Speaker 2: it's not yet costing me less for insurance. It's a

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Speaker 2: Talk about that it is not yet.

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Speaker 3: At all costing you less for milk.

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Speaker 2: Don't sell Americans on something that is not happening. Don't

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Speaker 3: With a plan.

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Speaker 2: To rethink the Affordable Care Act. The subsidies are going

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Speaker 2: They don't they it's they're fine by that as long

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Speaker 2: what Representative Costio Cortez I would say.

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Speaker 3: At this moment. So the plan.

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Speaker 2: As is described is something called the Healthcare Price Cuts Act,

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Speaker 2: Does money flow to these subsidies, to hospitals and others,

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Speaker 3: Back to the people now.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of just course, I object to all

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Speaker 2: The idea that we would pay the government that we

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Speaker 3: That's what it is. I offer up my labor, someone

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Speaker 3: Well, Tony, the country has to run.

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Speaker 2: Screw that a million ways we can make that done.

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Speaker 2: I'm asking a different question. My labor belongs to me.

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Speaker 2: And you also have to be able to make money

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Speaker 2: every member of the executive branch, every member of the judiciary.

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Speaker 3: I don't give a damn.

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Speaker 2: They don't deserve any part of my income. That is

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Speaker 3: But if you engage taxes.

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Speaker 2: If states charge an income tax.

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Speaker 3: I have no issue. I don't like it.

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Speaker 3: Federal government has no right to charge an income tax.

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Speaker 2: To hell with them, and anybody thinks like them not interested,

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Speaker 2: to find the government. Well Tony, you don't care about

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Speaker 2: these people who whoa My labor is mine, and if

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Speaker 2: anybody thinks they're entitled to a part of it, I say,

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Speaker 2: let's fight. I'm talking about Jackson's shark style. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: am I the first person ever to explain it like this?

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Speaker 2: Because there's no way possible. I'm the first person ever

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Speaker 2: to explain it like this, if only because I know

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Speaker 2: that Reason magazine exists, So there's just no way.

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Speaker 3: I'm the first guy. But that's the fundamental issue.

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Speaker 4: I have.

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Speaker 2: The idea that the government takes our money and now

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Speaker 2: is going to dole it back to us, and we're

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Speaker 2: supposed to say thank you.

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Speaker 3: Ooh who.

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Speaker 2: Despicable? Despicable. But let's hold off on that, just for

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Speaker 2: a moment to understand what is being discussed here. Terminate

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Speaker 2: what the White House refers to a surprise premium hikes

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Speaker 2: generated by the ACA. Eliminate zero premium subsidies currently offered

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Speaker 2: under the Affordable Care Act Obamacare, which would stop ghost beneficiaries,

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Speaker 2: you know, fraudulent policies and things like that. Take the

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Speaker 2: money that would go to all of these groups and

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Speaker 2: give it back to the people. I haven't done enough

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Speaker 2: looking in, I haven't done enough research, I haven't done

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Speaker 2: enough talking to people who know more about this than

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Speaker 2: I do. There are two questions to be asked in

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Speaker 2: this conversation, which is true of all economic conversations. Number One,

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Speaker 2: are we talking about a conversation? Are we talking about

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Speaker 2: something you can make real? Can you get Thomas Massey

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Speaker 2: to vote for it?

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Speaker 3: Meaning?

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Speaker 2: Can you get it past the House? Can you get

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Speaker 2: it past the Senate? You're going to change Obamacare? Fundamentally,

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Speaker 2: Democrats are going to scream you're killing Grandma now.

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Speaker 3: Unless you're willing.

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Speaker 2: To tell those Democrats to shut their mouths, you dirty freaks.

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Speaker 3: Unless you're willing to walk up.

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Speaker 2: To Chuck Schumer while he's doing an interview with CNN

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Speaker 2: and say Chuck, you are a lying freak. To hell

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Speaker 2: with you and your whole family. You also don't know

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Speaker 2: how to make a cheeseburger, shut it and then walk away.

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Speaker 2: You've got a problem. You got to be able to

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Speaker 2: fight that fight properly to be able to.

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Speaker 3: Get the vote.

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Speaker 2: Secondly, what is the immediate result? What's the immediate result

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Speaker 2: for the for that American citizen? What is the immediate

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Speaker 2: results overall? Do people all of a sudden see a

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Speaker 2: lowering of healthcare costs so they can then say Trump

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Speaker 2: and Republicans lowered healthcare costs. Now you understand that by

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Speaker 2: doing this, you're not removing the Affordable Care Act, You're

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Speaker 2: not removing Obamacare, which I see as an issue. Republicans

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Speaker 2: have had over a decade to come up with a

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Speaker 2: better plan feel the air quotes, and they've never done it.

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Speaker 3: They have failed epically on that subject.

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Speaker 2: You've got polling that state seventy four percent of Americans

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Speaker 2: supporting it's sending the tax credit, including fifty percent of Republicans.

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Speaker 2: I do not count me amongst the people who are rational. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: we actually have to fix the problem.

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Speaker 3: Is this a fix?

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Speaker 2: I think this is a code of find and that

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Speaker 2: I consider worrisome.

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Speaker 3: But if you return the money directly.

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Speaker 2: To the people and that is seen as an immediate savings,

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Speaker 2: immediate more money in the pocket, then it's the win.

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Speaker 3: And that, Secretary Bessent, is my story to you.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell people things are coming, although it's good to

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Speaker 2: explain them and then claim something is here that isn't

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Speaker 2: explain what you're doing, why it matters, why we're in

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Speaker 2: this fight together, what's coming down the line, these things

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Speaker 2: that we're working on every day. Tell the story that

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Speaker 2: is inspirational. But don't undercut your message with hey, Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: meal costs twenty five percent less. I don't care what

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Speaker 2: Walmart said. We don't want Walmart thanksgivings. We at the

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Speaker 2: very least want of Target Thanksgiving. You get my point.

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Speaker 2: You can win this arguments. You're smart enough, you are

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Speaker 2: the guy. You're the adult in the room. Keep adulting.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz, and this right here is Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: Today someone asked me in the chat room, did I

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Speaker 2: think that Ron DeSantis was running for president in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty eight? And I yeah, I think everybody's gonna run

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Speaker 2: for president at least right now. Tony Katz Tony Kats today, guys.

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Speaker 2: Good to be here, Good to be with you. I

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Speaker 2: am on the YouTube's right there. We're live streaming YouTube

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Speaker 2: dot com slash Tony Katz also Twitter x Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: Facebook Tony Katz a radio live stream brought to you

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Speaker 2: by the good people at Fledaman of von Reest.

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Speaker 3: Oh. You know, I love these time pieces. I work

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Speaker 3: with them. They're brand ambassador v O n ri E

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Speaker 2: Incredible both timepieces shop dot van Reest dot com. Incredible stuff.

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Speaker 2: And so I think that everybody is going to run

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Speaker 2: right now. Things can change. And one of the things

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Speaker 2: that brings Ron DeSantis' name back is that Ron DeSantis

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Speaker 2: was talking about Doge and he said, Doge fought the swamp,

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Speaker 2: and the swamp won.

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Speaker 3: Doge is shutting down.

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Speaker 2: Corn of Federal Officials, Office of Personnel Management, DOGE doesn't

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Speaker 2: exist as a centralized entity. The Department of Government Efficiency

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Speaker 2: has dissolved.

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Speaker 3: Very disappointed. Doge was the right idea.

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Speaker 2: Doge was everybody's saying, this is what I voted for.

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Speaker 2: And if you had a Doge without elon, but you

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Speaker 2: were going about engaging these cuts, going about engaging these reductions,

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Speaker 2: we'd all be pleased.

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Speaker 3: To end this early. Is wrong.

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Speaker 2: Now you could argue, well, no, no, I see they're doing

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Speaker 2: it this way, they're doing it that way, they're doing

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Speaker 2: it the other way.

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Speaker 3: You could do it in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 2: But where are the conversations about the reductions every day?

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Speaker 3: Is usaid really gone?

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Speaker 2: Are we going to find another six months it's been

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Speaker 2: reconstituted somehow. Are you telling me that what we have,

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Speaker 2: this bloat, this wreckage is just the way it's always

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Speaker 2: going to be for forever and all we are is

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Speaker 2: on the slow decline. I'm personally not a wanter of that,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think you are either. One must run

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Speaker 2: fast and break things sometimes, and Doge was doing just that.

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Speaker 2: This isn't the time to give up the ship. This

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Speaker 2: is the time to triple down. And anybody willing to

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Speaker 2: pick up that mantle is gonna have a good opportunity.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty eight, this is Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 1: Live from Vall Hartliner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today. The Pentagon is now threatening to court martials.

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Speaker 2: Senator Mark Kelly good Now, I don't know if they

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Speaker 2: actually can. I don't know if you could recall him

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Speaker 2: to active duty service and make this happen.

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Speaker 3: Why is this happening?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a bigger story. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Great to be here, Good to be with you, live

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Speaker 2: streaming YouTube dot com slash Tony Katz, don't forget to

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Speaker 2: subscribe right, make that happen.

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Speaker 3: Let me let me bring this to you.

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Speaker 2: This started with a video of such disgusting proportion from

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Speaker 2: Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona, Senator Alissa Slopkin of Michigan,

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Speaker 2: Congressman Jason Crowe, and a host of others, including a

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Speaker 2: congresswoman by the name of Maggie Goodlander. Maggie Goodlander, who

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Speaker 2: is a foreign policy advisor to Joe Lieberman and John McCain,

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Speaker 2: a long clerk to Merrick Garland and Justice Bryer, served

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Speaker 2: on the House Judiciary Committee during the first impeachment of Trump.

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Speaker 3: And she is a member of Congress.

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Speaker 2: You know she's married to Jake Sullivan, the former National

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Speaker 2: security advisor under Biden. If you want to talk about

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Speaker 2: somebody who knows how to be subversive, it's Maggie Goodlander.

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Speaker 2: Maggie Goodlander was amongst those who made this video that said, hey,

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Speaker 2: acts of service military, the Trump administration is bad and

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Speaker 2: they're putting you in a bad spot, and you do

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Speaker 2: not have to follow illegal orders. You must disobey illegal orders.

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Speaker 2: This was, of course, these Democrats pushing the idea that

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Speaker 2: Trump should not be able to be in charge of

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Speaker 2: the military's commander in.

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Speaker 3: Chief and you shouldn't listen to him.

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Speaker 2: It was undermining the presidency, it was undermining the executive brand.

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Speaker 2: It was trying to usurp the duly elected president. It

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Speaker 2: is obscene. A lot of people on your social media

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Speaker 2: feeds and my social media feed have decided that the

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Speaker 2: correct response is what's wrong with letting back to the military.

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Speaker 3: Know what their duty is and know what their rules are.

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Speaker 2: I can't stop people from saying something that ignorantly stupid,

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Speaker 2: and I say it exactly that way, because everybody who

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Speaker 2: is rational knows what these senators and these members of

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Speaker 2: Congress were doing.

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Speaker 3: Everybody the sophistry of they were just saying the law,

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Speaker 3: what's the.

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Speaker 2: Law, and you don't follow illegal orders. That isn't what

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Speaker 2: they were doing. That's what they said. That's not what

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Speaker 2: they were saying. Rational people understand what is being what

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Speaker 2: they were saying. People who think that everything is a

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Speaker 2: court of law want to go into.

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Speaker 3: What was said.

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Speaker 2: We know better, and so does America. And what we

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Speaker 2: saw on Sunday Show after Sunday Show after Sunday Show

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Speaker 2: was the ignorance of people like Representative Goodland, who, when

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Speaker 2: asked about this, sounded like a child.

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Speaker 3: Take away from your message, Away from your memory, Alex.

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Speaker 5: We love this country, We love our constitution. It is

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Speaker 5: our job as lawmakers, and especially in this moment, to

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Speaker 5: be clear morally, to be clear legally, and simply and

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Speaker 5: clearly stating what the law says, what the Uniform Code

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Speaker 5: of Military Justice says. It's not a crime, it is

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Speaker 5: not treason, it is not sedition. It is our job,

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Speaker 5: and I think it's really important that we do our

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Speaker 5: jobs in this.

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Speaker 2: I did not know she also did voiceover for Cartoon Network. No,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing I can do about her voice, nothing she

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Speaker 2: could do about her voice. She certainly does not sound

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Speaker 2: in any way authoritative. It happens, But does that sound

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Speaker 2: like somebody who's convinced of her position, who believes in

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Speaker 2: the strength of her position, or is she being a

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Speaker 2: mealy mouthed whatever you want to do, then say next

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Speaker 2: by trying to skate around what it is that she

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Speaker 2: when of course that isn't the thing that was being said.

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Speaker 2: But she is not the only one who was doing this.

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Speaker 2: This is representative Jason Crow.

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Speaker 8: Let's get to the content of what you had in

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Speaker 8: that video you released, because there are also fifteen House

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Speaker 8: Republicans who are also veterans, who released a video, including

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Speaker 8: a retired three star Marine Corps General Jack Bergman.

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Speaker 3: Take a listen to this, troops, listen up. Any service member.

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Speaker 7: Who refuses a lawful order is subject to court martial

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Speaker 7: for violating the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

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Speaker 9: We study what's lawful and what's not lawful, and the

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Speaker 9: Democrats stunt insinuating that their illegal or unconstitutional orders.

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Speaker 3: It's done right, dangerous, it is corrosive.

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Speaker 2: It is meant to weaken our country and weaken the military.

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Speaker 8: How do you respond to these allegations from your colleagues

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Speaker 8: fellow veterans that what you have put out there.

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Speaker 3: Is weakening and corrosive to the military.

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Speaker 4: Well, these, unfortunately are some of Trump's core supporters that

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Speaker 4: are rallying behind the president, and.

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Speaker 2: They these are fellow members of the military who have

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Speaker 2: served with distinction.

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Speaker 3: Now all of a sudden, they're just Trump supporters. I

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Speaker 3: did not know we were allowed.

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Speaker 2: To dismiss members of the military because they're on one

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Speaker 2: side of the aisle or the other. I thought these

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Speaker 2: were people who sacrificed everything in service of their country,

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Speaker 2: just like you.

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Speaker 3: Guess not guess that's not the case.

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Speaker 2: I guess when when you're a Republican, your service for

661
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: the nation doesn't matter, or you can be as absolutely

662
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: ignorant as Senator Alissa Slotkin, who, when asked about this

663
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: by Martha Raddicks, Oh, I should give the warning right

664
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Speaker 2: now if you're driving hands on ten and two. I know,

665
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Speaker 2: I know the kids say you're supposed to have your

666
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: hands on nine to three because of airbags or something else.

667
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 3: I'm an old schooler.

668
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: It's ten and two, a ride or die At ten

669
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Speaker 2: and two. That's where the hands go right there until

670
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: you get me the jetsons and the truly self flying cars.

671
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: My hands are on ten and two. Senator Alissa Slockin,

672
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: you've been warned.

673
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 10: Is very clear that no one should follow legal order,

674
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 10: but it's very when you look at what is an

675
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 10: illegal order, and if you go into morally ethically, that's

676
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 10: a pretty tough thing to look at and say, how

677
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 10: do I navigate this?

678
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: I don't.

679
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Speaker 11: I mean, look, you going back to Nuremberg, right that, Well,

680
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 11: they told me to do it.

681
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Speaker 3: That's why I'm murdered. People. Is not an excuse.

682
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Speaker 11: If you look at popular culture, there's like you watch

683
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 11: you know a few good men like We have plenty

684
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 11: of examples since World War Two in Vietnam where people

685
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 11: were told to follow illegal orders and they did it

686
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 11: and they were prosecuted for it.

687
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 3: Your argument, let's slock him.

688
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: For making a video usurping the duly elected president of

689
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Speaker 2: the United States, for putting the idea out there that

690
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: the commander in chief should not be listened to that

691
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: he's engaging illegal orders. Is a code read from Colonel Jessup.

692
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: Kevin Pollack wouldn't have needed Tom Cruise. He could have

693
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: found you guilty. He could have found you guilty and

694
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: had time to have done.

695
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 3: Grumpy old men three, I don't think there was a

696
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 3: grumpy old man. Three. There was a grumpy old man

697
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 3: and a grumpy old man.

698
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 2: I don't think there was a third one. The best

699
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: you could do is a few good men. You said

700
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Speaker 2: that Trump was issuing illegal orders.

701
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 3: Well, Tony, they didn't say that.

702
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: What you were saying is Trump issues illegal orders, and

703
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: everybody in America saw it, and everybody in America heard it,

704
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: and no one, no one should think that this is okay.

705
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: This brings us to the statement from the Secretary of

706
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Speaker 2: War Pete Hegseth.

707
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: This statement reads.

708
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Speaker 2: That the video made by the Seditious six was despicable, reckless,

709
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Speaker 2: and false. Encouraging our warriors to ignore the orders of

710
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: their commanders undermines every aspect of good order and discipline.

711
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Speaker 3: That's accurate.

712
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: He goes on to state their foolish screeds sows doubt

713
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Speaker 2: and confusion, which only puts our warriors in danger. Five

714
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Speaker 2: of the six individuals in that video do not fall

715
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Speaker 2: under the Department of War jurisdiction. One is CIA, and

716
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: four are former military but not retired, so they are

717
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: no longer subject to the UCMJ. However, Mark Kelly, retired

718
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: Navy commander, is still subject to the Uniform Code of

719
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: Military Justice, and he knows that, which brings us to

720
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Speaker 2: the store about the Pentagon, which is now threatening to

721
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Speaker 2: court martial Senator Mark Kelly. They may call on Mark Kelly,

722
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Speaker 2: they may call him back to active duty and therefore

723
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Speaker 2: face court martial proceedings or other administrative actions under the

724
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Speaker 2: Uniform Code of Military Justice. The departments saying, quote, this

725
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Speaker 2: matter will be handled in compliance with military law, ensuring

726
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 2: due process and impartiality. Good. Good, in every single way. Good.

727
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: I did not serve. I did not serve in the military.

728
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: Someone on social media was saying, you were too afraid,

729
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: and I said, what kind of stupid nonsense is that?

730
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Speaker 3: It is of disappointment in my life, not that I didn't.

731
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Speaker 2: Serve that my earlier days, my younger days were engaged

732
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: in depression and confusion and sadness kept me from a

733
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: whole bunch of things, and a whole bunch of opportunities,

734
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Speaker 2: and a whole bunch of thoughts of what could have

735
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 2: been opportunities. Military was never ever in the cards for me. Ever,

736
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Speaker 2: back then, there would have been no way to see

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Speaker 2: that one through.

738
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Speaker 3: There would been no capacity for me to handle that.

739
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Speaker 2: That is to not to my shame, just the reality

740
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Speaker 2: of what it was for me. I know that people

741
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Speaker 2: joined the military. I knew there was a military.

742
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 3: Certainly.

743
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Speaker 2: I had parents who had no interest in me going

744
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Speaker 2: down that road and never entertained it with me. I

745
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: will tell you exactly what I told my children. If

746
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: you told me you want to join the Navy, we'd

747
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: have a conversation about it. If you told me you

748
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: wanted to join the Army, we'd have a different conversation

749
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: about it. If you told me you wanted to join

750
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Speaker 2: the Marines, we'd have a really different conversation about it.

751
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Speaker 2: These are different worlds than I come from, and you've

752
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: got to understand what it is you're getting into and

753
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: how these things are different, and what it is you're

754
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: signing up for, because there is no out, there is

755
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Speaker 2: only through. But I would not have objected. I still

756
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 2: would not object. The military is better off that they

757
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: didn't have to deal with me. I would have been

758
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: better off not having such a level of depression in

759
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: my childhood into my early adulthood and having figured it

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Speaker 2: out later and found a better way later in life.

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Speaker 3: I am just thankful I found a better way. You

762
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 3: want to call it an excuse, I'm giving you reality

763
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Speaker 3: you don't want to buy it. I can't do anything

764
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 3: about that.

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Speaker 2: There were people at a younger age, far more equipped

766
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Speaker 2: for what this nation.

767
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Speaker 3: Needed than I did.

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Speaker 2: And good on them, Good on them for answering the call.

769
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: Mark Kelly deserves no love now, no harm should come

770
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: to him from any citizen. All that stuff is madness

771
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: and nonsense, and the swatting and everything else. It's ridiculous,

772
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 2: it's disgusting. It isn't how we do things. I have

773
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: a ballot box. I can do this without all the

774
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Speaker 2: things that disastrous nations have to go through.

775
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Speaker 3: But being charged. Hell yes, hell yes, I favor it.

776
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 2: I favor Mark Kelly having to deal with the consequences

777
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 2: of his actions. He wants to lecture to us about

778
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Speaker 2: how he upholds a code and then does not uphold

779
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Speaker 2: the code.

780
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 3: He should have to live by it.

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Speaker 2: Someone in the chat says, but you're advocating for regular

782
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 2: Americans to go to war while you sit at home

783
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 2: telling us propaganda. First of all, nothing I have said

784
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: is propaganda. It is a point of view. If you

785
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 2: don't like it, you don't have to listen. Secondly, advocating

786
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 2: for regular Americans to go to war, you mean soldiers

787
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 2: when the moment does call for it, And the answer

788
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 2: is yes, I advocate when the moment calls for it,

789
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: for us to engage a fighting force of full and

790
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Speaker 2: outright lethality, to destroy the enemy until the enemy is

791
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Speaker 2: quite literally dead. Can I ask what's wrong with you

792
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 2: that you don't I did not say that we should

793
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Speaker 2: go to war for as the Constitution would describe with

794
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Speaker 2: the Constitution Declaration, Sorry, light and transient causes. I don't

795
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 2: believe in that. But when the moment comes, the answer

796
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 2: is we send other people's children to fight.

797
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 3: That's the way it goes.

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Speaker 2: You don't understand that you would not have won World

799
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: War two, you would not have won anything. You would

800
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: still be a subject of the king. It's time for

801
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 2: grown ups, and time for Senator Mark Kelley, and I

802
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 2: believe all the rest who should resign in shame to

803
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 2: have to deal with the consequences of their despicable actions.

804
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: Let's see what the Pentagon does. This is Tony Kats today.

805
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 2: So what in the world just happened to James Comy case, Well,

806
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what needs to happen. I'll say it again.

807
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: I put everything on Pam BONDI really disappointed Tony Kats.

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00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 3: Tony Kats today. Great to be here, great to be

809
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 3: with you.

810
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 2: Judge by the name of Cameron Curry, who was appointed

811
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Speaker 2: by Bill Clinton, dismissed the cases not only against James Comy,

812
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 2: but against Letitia James, the Attorney General of New York.

813
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 3: They were.

814
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: Dismissed without prejudice. They can be refiled. These people can

815
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Speaker 2: be reindicted, and that's going to happen. Comy indicted for

816
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: lying right saying he never leaked things to the press

817
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: when he did. Letitia James for lying about how she

818
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: got mortgages, this fraud.

819
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Speaker 3: That's my take. The argument is.

820
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: About the US attorney in question, Lindsay Halligan, and the

821
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: argument is that she was appointed improperly. That she was

822
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: appointed improperly meant that when the indictment took place, she

823
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: was not actually the attorney in charge for the Eastern

824
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 2: District of Virginia, and therefore the indictments themselves are invalid.

825
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 2: She has been unlawfully serving in a role since September

826
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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five, so therefore she could not have

827
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Speaker 2: moved forward to engage the indictment against either one. Now

828
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: there's a conversation about whether or not what is the

829
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: proper terminology here. The statue limitations with James Comey is

830
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 2: involved that you won't be able to reindict. The question

831
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: will be and this will be for lawyers who have

832
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: an understanding of these things. If an indictment came through

833
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: but there was some kind of technical issue, does that

834
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Speaker 2: indictment date? Can another indictment be brought with a fixing

835
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 2: of the snapoo and fits into that timeframe?

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Speaker 3: Or is it's over, it's over, It's over, that's it.

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Speaker 3: That's question. James Comy is what you never want your

838
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 3: sons to become.

839
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: You don't ever want your sons to grow up to

840
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: be like James Comy, this abusive, no moral compass individual daughters,

841
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: letitia James, You don't want to be that. Not interested

842
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: in doing a job, interested in engaging in vengeance to

843
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: win the favor of your party or some other dollar.

844
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 2: But all this makes me say the buck stops somewhere.

845
00:54:54,880 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 2: Pam Bondy's gotta go. So it's embarrassing already can't do

846
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 2: the job. Let's find somebody who can. I'm Tony Katz.

847
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. So the Trump administration is

848
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 2: denying reports of the demise of DOGE. Is that what

849
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: they're doing. They're saying, oh, no, no, no, everything's fine.

850
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Speaker 2: What are you talking about. Everything's super groovy efficiency otherwise

851
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 2: known as DOGE.

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Speaker 3: He is dead. Darren Botello's got the story. Capitol Hill

853
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Speaker 3: working that what you find out, Darren, Good morning, Good morning, Bill.

854
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Speaker 12: As you pointed out, the administration is saying that DOGE

855
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Speaker 12: is not dead, instead saying it's decentralized and every agency

856
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 12: is working on cost cutting measures. This whole controversy started

857
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Speaker 12: with the Reuters article that was posted just about twenty

858
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Speaker 12: four hours ago. Here's what he was talking about. It

859
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 12: was saying that DOGE is disbanded, eight months ahead of schedule.

860
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Speaker 12: Of course, by the way, it's set to come to

861
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Speaker 12: an end in July twenty twenty six. Also in the article, Bill,

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Speaker 12: it says that former DOGE employees have taken new roles

863
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Speaker 12: in the administration. Scott Kapor, director of the Office of

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Speaker 12: Personnel Management, hitting back with this tweet, saying, in part,

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Speaker 12: the truth is DOGE may not have centralized leadership under USDs,

866
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 12: but the principles of DOZE remain alive and well. Deregulation

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Speaker 12: eliminating fraud, waste and abuse, reshaping the federal workforce, making

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Speaker 12: efficiency a first class citizen.

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Speaker 3: Doge good?

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Speaker 2: Excellent? Am I concerned? Well, sure, absolutely concerned. You know

871
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Speaker 2: you need to be focused on this. I don't need

872
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Speaker 2: a big government agency to do it. I need the

873
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 2: work to be done.

874
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 3: But I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know if putting it in these separate places it

876
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Speaker 2: all just Michael falls by the wayside. This brings us

877
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 2: to MSNBC. I'm sorry, ms NOW talking about Marjorie Taylor

878
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: Green And if you want to understand the Republican from

879
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: Georgia who is resigning from Congress, well you need ms

880
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: NOW to explain it to you.

881
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 3: Michael, So, which is it.

882
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 8: What does her split from Trump tell us about the

883
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 8: future of MAGA.

884
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 9: It tells us the MAGA coalition is collapsing.

885
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 3: She was one of the most powerful and.

886
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 9: Influential voices he had in Congress. She was with him

887
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 9: since the beginning in twenty fifteen, and now she has chosen.

888
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 3: To move on. And it's not just her.

889
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,959
Speaker 9: Even outside of Congress, you have some of the most

890
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 9: powerful media voices on the right who have moved on

891
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 9: from Trump, people like Joe Rogan and Tim Dillon and

892
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 9: the racist white supremacist Nick Fuintes. Those people have all

893
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 9: moved on because they have said they feel betrayed.

894
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 3: And so if I'm Donald Trump, I'm wondering what this means.

895
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 9: For me and my ability to get anything done.

896
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 2: Next, what you need is the former spokesperson of Rakim

897
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: Jefferies to explain it to you. That's Marjorie Taylor Green

898
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: to the idea she was influential.

899
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 3: Is silly.

900
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan influential, and a really acceptable, worthy conversation should

901
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: exist regarding why did you lose these people, these players

902
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: who were certainly helpful and influential and helping you winning reelection.

903
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 3: It could be because you.

904
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 2: Now say, hey, it's okay, I six hundred thousand Chinese

905
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: nationals clearly connected to the Chinese Communist Party or in

906
00:58:50,080 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 2: our universities. What are you possibly talking about? Can you

907
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 2: tell us that the Jeffrey Epstein files don't matter? I

908
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 2: wonder if Trump has had a little bit of understanding

909
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 2: of what it must have been like for those so

910
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 2: called conservatives, some of whom are friends, who have come

911
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 2: around and all signed on to that letter over at

912
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 2: National Review saying you can't vote for Trump.

913
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 3: Do you remember this?

914
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 2: They put out a whole issue of National Review about

915
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: this and I talked to National Review guys today. There's

916
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 2: some smart guys over there. This was an unbelievably bad move.

917
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 2: Unbelievably bad move. The worst move was never Trump. The

918
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 2: people who are never Trump are the most ridiculous people

919
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: out there. Never Trump is a pathetic and embarrassing movement.

920
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: Guys like David French who are writing things I agreed

921
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 2: with and disagreed with the National Review, who decide to

922
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 2: go never Trump and now want to play the game

923
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: of I don't know what these democrats said wrong. You

924
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 2: shouldn't follow I legal orders. They didn't say anything wrong.

925
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 2: Oh dear lord, what's the line? It was a billing ball.

926
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 2: Here's your sign? Like, it's just that that clear. But

927
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: those guys got a very rude awakening when they realized

928
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 2: they didn't have any.

929
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 3: Control over voters.

930
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 2: They didn't get to decide what conservatism was or what

931
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: they wanted for the nation. They could only put out

932
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: an idea. It was up to people to decide what

933
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: to do with that idea and what they decided to say,

934
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 2: and they did. What they decided to say is we

935
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: know best, and that's not reality. Here's what I think,

936
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 2: and here is why Here's why I think it's a

937
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 2: good idea. Here's why I think it's a bad idea.

938
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 2: You've heard me talk about Tarris. I know some of

939
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 2: you disagree with me.

940
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 3: We're still friends, dear lord.

941
01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 2: And what these radio people and bloggers and television and

942
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 2: others learned is that you don't get to decide. You

943
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: don't understand what's happening. You don't know it's like to

944
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 2: have somebody finally listen and understand us. We've been having

945
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 2: these conversations for years. I don't know if Trump has

946
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 2: begun to understand that when you said something, we took

947
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 2: you at your word, and we're gonna hold you aggressively

948
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 2: to your word. And we don't care what name you

949
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 2: call us. Why something we understood from the beginning, we said,

950
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 2: from the beginning, Oh, we got a whole bunch of

951
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 2: heat for it, from the beginning. I do not You

952
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: do not have to be loyal to Donald Trump. He

953
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 2: has to be loyal to us.

954
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 3: We do not work for him. He works for us.

955
01:01:54,680 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 3: When you know your place at the table, when you

956
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 3: know who you are man, the whole thing is a

957
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 3: lot easier.

958
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 2: And when you're not engaged in some Magaville insanity, idle worship,

959
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: but rather recognize the guy who can do good and

960
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 2: has issues.

961
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 3: And Trump is a guy who can do good and

962
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 3: has issues.

963
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: And Marjorie Taylor Green could not have done anything if

964
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 2: she wasn't all Trump all the time.

965
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 3: She chose idle worship.

966
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 2: And the idea that this proves that the MAGA coalition

967
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: is collapsing, what does that even mean? It means that

968
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 2: a group of Democrats on MSNBC finally have something to

969
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 2: sexually excite them.

970
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 3: So it means there's no value in this. None.

971
01:02:55,520 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: Going back to Marjorie Taylor Green, though, she of course resigning,

972
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 2: and it is noted by a whole bunch of people

973
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: that her resignation comes on January fifth, twenty twenty six.

974
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 2: Why January fifth It could be, could be because the

975
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 2: Congress will be sworn in on January third. She will

976
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 2: at that time will have served five years. Five years

977
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 2: guarantees you a full lifetime pension.

978
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 3: You know.

979
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 2: The rumor is that Marjorie Taylor Green is worth twenty

980
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 2: five million dollars? And do you know how much that

981
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: makes me crazy? How have I not figured this out yet?

982
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 2: What's wrong with me? I mean dear lord, but she's

983
01:03:55,200 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 2: gonna stick around to get the full pension. Okay, thank goodness,

984
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 2: you're so convicted. But in her nine minute plus screed,

985
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 2: her nine minutes plus of announcing that she was leaving,

986
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 2: what she stated deserves a serious amount of questioning, Like,

987
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 2: for example, this right here.

988
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 6: Standing up for American women who were raped at fourteen

989
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 6: years old, trafficked and used by rich, powerful men, should

990
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 6: not result in me being called a traitor and threatened

991
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 6: by the President of the United States, whom I fought for.

992
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 6: I have too much self respect and dignity. I love

993
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 6: my family way too much, and I do not I

994
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 6: want my sweet district to have to endure a hurtful

995
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 6: and hateful primary against me by the president that we

996
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 6: all fought for, only to fight and win my election,

997
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 6: while Republicans will likely lose the midterms and in turn

998
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 6: be expected to defend the president against impeachment after he

999
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 6: hatefully dumped tens of millions of dollars against me and

1000
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 6: tried to destroy me.

1001
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 2: Now, I think we would agree that's a worthy argument.

1002
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 2: What am I sticking around for? But when you tell

1003
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 2: me about how much you love your family and you

1004
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 2: love this, you love the country and you love your constituents,

1005
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 2: and you did it all for the people. You're sticking

1006
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 2: around for the money. So that's a that's a hard

1007
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 2: one to kind of, you know, do a math on.

1008
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 3: But this idea that you were betrayed.

1009
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 2: I if you want to play the part of useful

1010
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 2: idiot Representative Green, you can, but I don't think anybody

1011
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 2: should play that part.

1012
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 3: And you did. And don't worry, You're not alone.

1013
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 2: There are others, whether they're in Congress or they're influencers

1014
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: or whatever they are, they play the.

1015
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 3: Part of useful idiot.

1016
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 2: There are only two people you agree with one hundred percent.

1017
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 2: There are only two peoples whose opinions you think are perfect,

1018
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 2: and that is your own and Jesus and everybody else

1019
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 2: is fallible.

1020
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 3: That's reality. The man never said anything wrong a day

1021
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 3: in his life. Do you know how insane that is.

1022
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 2: I agree with everything he says all the time, really,

1023
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 2: because I think that's crazy. And you sound ridiculous, And

1024
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 2: we should be clear, Marjorie Taylor Green, you sounded ridiculous.

1025
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 2: If you had been someone who at least openly said

1026
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 2: I'm not in favor of that, right there there would

1027
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 2: be more credibility to it.

1028
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 3: But when you are shocked to learn that.

1029
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 2: You disagree with the president and the president has choice

1030
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 2: things to say about you. You've never seen Donald Trump before,

1031
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 2: You never once, I don't know, saw a video clip.

1032
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of crocodile tiers here. I

1033
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 2: think you're allowed to resign. I think you have an

1034
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:40,479
Speaker 2: interesting thing to say about how Congress works and how

1035
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 2: nothing ever gets better and the real issues there, and

1036
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 2: I think that's valuable. I think you make a point

1037
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 2: about why should I run. I'm gonna win.

1038
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if you will.

1039
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 2: Trump's has spent all this money against me, then I'm

1040
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 2: gonna be expected to back them up.

1041
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 3: I don't want to be around that.

1042
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 2: I think that's an argument people can actually connect with

1043
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 2: and to prove how gross it all is. I'm gonna

1044
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: stay so I get my pension. I will say clearly,

1045
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 2: I don't think you'll be missed. I'll be curious to

1046
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 2: see what you do on the outside. I'm Tony katz

1047
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:15,919
Speaker 2: Eder of debate for us.

1048
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 3: We know it.

1049
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: Somali community is an integral part of our state, our culture.

1050
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 3: In our neighborhoods.

1051
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 2: Like so many immigrant communities, before them, many Somolis came

1052
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 2: to Minnesota fleeing conflict, instability, famine, just looking to build

1053
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 2: better lives.

1054
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 9: For themselves and their families like everybody else.

1055
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:41,879
Speaker 2: But that's not what happened seemingly in Minneapolis. There Keith Ellison,

1056
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 2: the guy who claimed he didn't know what Antifa was,

1057
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 2: but there's pictures of him years ago holding the Antifa handbook. Yeah,

1058
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 2: that Keith Ellison. Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, Great to

1059
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 2: be with you. He's the Attorney General of Minnesota. And

1060
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:03,480
Speaker 2: the story here is that it was learned through reporting

1061
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 2: from the Manhattan Institute that Somali nationals in Minneapolis is

1062
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 2: a very large Somali population are applying for all types

1063
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 2: of funds that were available through things via COVID nineteen,

1064
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:26,799
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Medicaid housing stabilization, a service, something called Feeding

1065
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: Our Future, and they made claims of kids being autistic,

1066
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 2: they made claims of this, that and the other and

1067
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 2: to get funding dollars.

1068
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 3: And then what they did is they.

1069
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 2: Sent that money back to Somalia and Al Shahab I'm sorry,

1070
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,759
Speaker 2: al Shabab, I gotta pronounce correctly.

1071
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 3: The terrorist organization ended up with the money.

1072
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 2: They funneled money back to a terrorist organization. And now

1073
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 2: Trump is saying, you lose your temporary protected status.

1074
01:09:58,360 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 3: This is ending.

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01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 2: Temporary protected status is what we found in Actually we're

1076
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 2: heading back in the spring Springfield, Ohio.

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01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 3: The Haitians are eating the dogs, eating the cats.

1078
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 2: That wasn't happening, but they are eating geese, and they

1079
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 2: are terrible drivers. And the housing problem is massive. Temporary

1080
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 2: protective status is what allowed the Haitians to stay.

1081
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 3: And it seemed to me like it was a.

1082
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 2: Jobs programs for factories out there in Springfield, Ohio, because

1083
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 2: now they got these workers. Tempre protected status is what

1084
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 2: the Biden administration utilized for specific groups, for specific purposes,

1085
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:39,799
Speaker 2: to keep them from being removed. Somehow, they deserved extra protection.

1086
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 2: All the animals are equal, with some more equal than others.

1087
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 2: Trump is removing that and it shouldn't just be for

1088
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:53,640
Speaker 2: those in Minnesota. It should be for the nation. I

1089
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 2: will dig more into that.

1090
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 3: Keep it here.

1091
01:10:55,880 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz Today.

1092
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 1: Line from Baal Hartliner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today, Big News.

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Speaker 13: There was a filing today at the FCC by a

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Speaker 13: very renowned regal expert Brian Fitzpatrick, Vanderbilt Law School. He

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Speaker 13: is a former Justice Scalia law clerk, very respected on

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Speaker 13: the constitution and legal analysis, and says the FCC's plan here,

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Speaker 13: which they're moving towards doing, of eliminating this TV cap

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Speaker 13: is illegal. It's a violation of federal law. The federal

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Speaker 13: law had been set and that they cannot change it.

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Speaker 13: Only Congress can change it.

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Speaker 2: So that's Chris Ruddy, the CEO of Newsmax, discussing the FCC.

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Speaker 3: Federal Communications Commission and.

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Speaker 2: The lifting of CAPS first station ownership Tony Katz Tony

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Speaker 2: Kats today, good to be with you. CAPS came on

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Speaker 2: during the Reagan years and said you can only if

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Speaker 2: your company owns so many types of stations radio.

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Speaker 3: TV and others. You can only be in so many households.

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Speaker 2: And if you own too many, because let's see, you

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Speaker 2: buy another group, you have to divest and sell some.

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Speaker 3: You can't have total control.

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Speaker 2: And it's an interesting argument that, well, that's not a

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Speaker 2: competition argument, is it, Because if I can afford more,

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Speaker 2: and if I buy more, and if I grow better

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Speaker 2: because I have a better product, why.

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Speaker 3: Can't I have more stations?

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Speaker 2: It's an argument of well, are we now engaged in

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Speaker 2: actually providing news or is one source providing just one thing?

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Speaker 3: If everything was owned.

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Speaker 2: By MSNBC, which is now called ms now and that

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Speaker 2: was the only news you could get, would you actually

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Speaker 2: be getting news at all. So this has been the

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Speaker 2: argument and the FCC making claim that hey, we simply

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Speaker 2: don't allow someone to have this much growth or or

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Speaker 2: not growth but control. Well, you now have a deal.

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Speaker 2: We're Nextstar, which owns news Nation. It wants to acquire

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01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 2: a group called Tegna, and it would create a group

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Speaker 2: that has two hundred and forty four stations across forty

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Speaker 2: four states, and they would have seventy They are nearly

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Speaker 2: like eighty percent reach. And so there's this real argument

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Speaker 2: against and Chris Ruddy of Newsmax is one of the

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01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 2: people saying no, no, no, this is problem that you

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Speaker 2: can't have them be so big. President Trump has now

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Speaker 2: jumped into this, putting on true social no expansion of

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01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 2: the fake news networks, if anything, make them smaller.

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Speaker 3: So it's Brendan Carr, who runs.

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Speaker 2: The FCC who is now thinking about allowing these caps

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Speaker 2: to be grown. I admit to you, I'm in a

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01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 2: unique place of push because I think the argument for hey,

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Speaker 2: this is the market and they can afford to buy X, Y,

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Speaker 2: and Z, why are we stopping them?

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01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 3: Is legit.

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01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:08,799
Speaker 2: The conversation of this is monopoly power is equally legit.

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01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 2: You've got law professors at Vanderbilt, a guy who was

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Speaker 2: a clerk to Supreme Court Justice Anton's Kalia filing briefs

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Speaker 2: with the FCC saying that the FCC can't even change

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01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 2: this unilaterally. You want to change these caps, it has

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Speaker 2: to happen through Congress, not through the Federal Communications Commission. Otherwise,

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Speaker 2: any deal that the FCC would give a green light

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01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 2: to doesn't have the express authority of Congress, who would

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01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 2: violate the law. What's going to come of this? I

1152
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,759
Speaker 2: don't know. Am I paying attention?

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01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:46,719
Speaker 3: Yes? I am.

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01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: I think we all should be. I think because we're

1155
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 2: in it, right. I'm in it because I'm on radio.

1156
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 2: You're in it because you're a consumer of it, of radio,

1157
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 2: of TV, of all these things. So we're we come

1158
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 2: at it maybe from different angles, but in the end,

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01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 2: we both have levels of interest in what happens here

1160
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 2: because our futures, financial or informational.

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01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 3: Depending on it. What is it that we want.

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01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 2: Do we want the government being able to have this

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01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 2: level of control of blockage, or do we want to

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Speaker 2: ensure that there's a wide array of voices and thoughts

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01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 2: on the broadcast side, or does none of it matter

1166
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 2: because everything's digital anyway? Who cares what you put out? Until,

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Speaker 2: of course we start.

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Speaker 3: Regulating that, Oh what, you don't think that.

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Speaker 2: Conversation's happening, honey, Please, I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz today. So is gen Z.

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01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 2: Just like the millennials, and all their searching for is

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Speaker 2: a cushy gig Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. Good to

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Speaker 2: be here, Good to be with you. Find everything I'm

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Speaker 2: doing over at Tony Katz dot com. I don't, I

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01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: don't have if you will towards gen Z, and I

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Speaker 2: certainly have never looked at gen Z in the same

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Speaker 2: way I've looked at millennials, which is a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of what about me, a lot of oh well

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Speaker 3: is me?

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Speaker 2: And a lot of complaining gen Z my dealings with them,

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Speaker 2: my working relationship with them.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen that. I've seen some.

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Speaker 2: Very very focused people who I have always taken it

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Speaker 2: that they've looked at the kind of madness of the

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01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 2: millennial generation, said, I don't need that now, Millennials for

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01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 2: all of their complaining and caterwauling, and certainly that's what

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01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 2: we get to see the most of.

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Speaker 3: In news reports and what have you.

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Speaker 2: According to the first reports, they've also done a very

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Speaker 2: good job at savings and in financial growth. They've also

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Speaker 2: been less afraid of things like bitcoin other things like that.

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01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 2: But they've done well there. They just don't do well as.

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Speaker 3: People.

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Speaker 2: And maybe that's because the most famous of them are

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Speaker 2: just so terrible.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Alexandria Cassio Cortez. We're done here.

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Speaker 2: I haven't noticed the madness amongst gen Z, or maybe

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Speaker 2: maybe more to the point, I haven't attributed to gen Z.

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Speaker 3: I just see madness. Did you see there is?

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Speaker 2: There's a video going around of Ariana Grande, who I

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01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 2: do not know what's going on with her, but she

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01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 2: doesn't look healthy to me at all, and it's it's

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Speaker 2: for the movie Wicked, and it's, uh, the the one

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Speaker 2: who plays Glinda, not Glinda Alphaba Cynthia.

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Speaker 3: Is is it Viro everro Vio? I don't know how

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Speaker 3: to pronounce your last name.

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Speaker 2: But she's the one who's got all the nails, and

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Speaker 2: she seems very, very emotionally fraught. And and in this

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Speaker 2: video they're they're doing an interview, right, you know, you

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Speaker 2: do the junk it and you talk about your movies,

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Speaker 2: and I guess the helicopter is over head, right there outdoors,

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01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 2: and literally arrivos, thank you, Cynthia Arrivo puts her hands

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01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,839
Speaker 2: over her face. She can't take the helicopter, and Ariana

1214
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 2: Grande is like doting on her, like this is a

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01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 2: serious thing. She's really concerned. Oh look how distressed she is.

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Speaker 2: It's a helicopter. And I'm saying that that is a

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01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 2: great example of some crazy emotional weakness. Doesn't matter what

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01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 2: you could do on stage, it's a helicopter. You'd be like, man,

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Speaker 2: I wish this thing went away because it's too loud

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Speaker 2: or whatever. But dear lord, she's like she's distraught over

1221
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Speaker 2: its existence.

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Speaker 3: It's very weird.

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Speaker 2: And that's the kind of stuff I have no interest

1224
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Speaker 2: in being around. But then again, and she was born

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Speaker 2: in eighty seven, so somehow I associate her with millennials,

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Speaker 2: but I don't think that's what she is in that regard.

1227
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Speaker 2: But it's this idea of just being emotionally incapable. I

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01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 2: think that happens in all generations, and so I find

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01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 2: that I look at gen Z and my dealings with

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01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 2: them is they've been kind of emotionally okay, they really have.

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Speaker 2: But there was this story over zero Hedge about how

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01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 2: the gen Z workers aren't interested in putting in the

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Speaker 2: hours and putting in the work, and they're convinced that

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01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 2: the work life balance is the non negotiable, right, this

1235
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 2: is exactly it. They don't respond to emails after five o'clock,

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01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 2: they don't believe.

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Speaker 3: In saying late.

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01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 2: They're not willing to do the work that it takes

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01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 2: to grow, but they want all the rewards just to

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01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 2: this thing about I was saying about a revo. I

1241
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 2: think that that has just become a truism of a

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01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:48,639
Speaker 2: lot of people, that they're not willing to do the work.

1243
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: They're not willing to engage, they're not willing to sweat,

1244
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 2: they're not willing to sacrifice, and what.

1245
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 3: They expect is things to come to them.

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01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 2: I brought this up to my a gen Z kid

1247
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 2: who said to me that they haven't seen that, right,

1248
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 2: He hasn't seen that, but rather what has been noticed

1249
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 2: and certainly discussed is that there is a real belief

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01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 2: amongst gen Z that they are moving into a society

1251
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 2: where they will absolutely not do as well as their parents.

1252
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 2: It's just fact there is no way to do as well,

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01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 2: which one could argue is the reason that people say, well,

1254
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 2: what about socialism, because capitalism clearly isn't working, when of

1255
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 2: course capitalism works, but the bastardization of capitalism ruins everything,

1256
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 2: which is so much of what we've seen in the

1257
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 2: United States, never mind around the globe. It's why the

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01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 2: lie of socialism is so appealing and continues to engage

1259
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 2: through the generations. It's this idea that somehow you're being

1260
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 2: done dirty, you're being done wrong, and it shouldn't have

1261
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 2: to be this tough, and some people have gained the

1262
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 2: system against you, and therefore they should have to pay

1263
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,719
Speaker 2: and this versus job to pay, and we should utilize

1264
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 2: government as a panacea for providing these better things. And

1265
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,799
Speaker 2: government is a good as opposed to a necessary evil.

1266
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 2: Now history shows us it's necessary evil. What they believe

1267
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 2: is that somehow history is written improperly, or history doesn't

1268
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 2: tell the proper story, that everything could have been better

1269
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:26,879
Speaker 2: if just if just more money was spent in education,

1270
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 2: we'd have better educated students. If just more money was

1271
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 2: spent on public housing, we wouldn't have a housing issue.

1272
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 2: If just more money was spent here, more money was

1273
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 2: spent there, more was done here, more was done there.

1274
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 2: But they never get into where it comes from. As

1275
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 2: Margaret Thatcher explained, socialism is great until eventually you run

1276
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 2: out of other people's money. This argument holds true. What

1277
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 2: they believe that if we just did this, if we

1278
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 2: just did that, my father arrests his soul. Used to

1279
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 2: say that if you didn't have a Republican in public office,

1280
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 2: every offer was held by Democrats. When the Democrat plan

1281
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 2: or position fails, they will claim it's because of three

1282
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 2: Republicans hiding and talking in a basement somewhere.

1283
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 3: They're the ones keeping us from greatness.

1284
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 2: Because in the end, this policy, in this push from

1285
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 2: the left about if only the right would do more

1286
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: of this, and only the right would do more of that.

1287
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 2: That is and otherising that leads to destruction. It's a

1288
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 2: boogeyman argument. It is, look at this group that is

1289
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 2: destroying you. Not hey, here's a different philosophy. Not hey,

1290
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 2: here are the two philosophies now go look at history,

1291
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 2: which one is succeeded, in which one has failed, Which

1292
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 2: one has created growth, and which one has created a disaster,

1293
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 2: which one creates individual opportunity, and which one puts you

1294
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:45,440
Speaker 2: in the collective healthscape.

1295
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 3: The data is very very clear.

1296
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 2: They now say, well, this person is keeping you from happiness,

1297
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 2: This person is keeping you from being fed or being paid,

1298
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 2: and that has to continue, and there always has to

1299
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 2: be a boogeyman. This is why when we talk about

1300
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 2: communism in Toto the whole of it, one of the

1301
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 2: things that we look at and that we see is

1302
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 2: that the power structure of communism leads to paranoia. Somebody

1303
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 2: is always to blame, somebody is always after you, somebody

1304
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 2: is always the problem, and someone must always be scapegoaded

1305
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 2: in order to show the people who are living in

1306
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 2: misery that you're really on top of it. There can't

1307
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 2: be an expansion of people and ideas. There has to

1308
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 2: be a collapse around one supreme leader, and of course dictatorship, authoritarianism.

1309
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 2: However it is you want to describe it, one all

1310
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 2: powerful oz. See that I tied it into a revo.

1311
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 2: You're welcome everybody. So the whether it's Kim Jong un,

1312
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 2: it's Vladimir Putin, whether it's Jijinping. The communist leader becomes

1313
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 2: more and more insulated because everybody is a threat to

1314
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 2: the power, and everybody must be thought of as a

1315
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 2: possible threat to the power, because if I just get

1316
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 2: rid of that person the people, I will get another

1317
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 2: six to seventeen month reprieve from their being angry that there.

1318
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 3: Is no food. You know, it's the.

1319
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 2: Old line of people in the days of Stalin being

1320
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 2: in the Gulag saying I can't believe I'm here. Stalin's

1321
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 2: a friend of mine. If he knew, he'd be so angry.

1322
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:39,640
Speaker 2: It was Stalin who put you in the gulog. It

1323
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 2: was Letting who put you in the gulog. That's always

1324
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 2: the way. It is always the way it is. You

1325
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 2: were the thing to be sacrificed so he could get

1326
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 2: an advantage somewhere else, or you were the thing that

1327
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,480
Speaker 2: was the threat and therefore you need it to be isolated.

1328
01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 2: Gen Z going back to them does not see a

1329
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 2: future as bright as maybe you did. Whether you're a

1330
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:11,719
Speaker 2: gen X or a baby boomer, maybe you're a millennial,

1331
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:17,520
Speaker 2: they don't see it. They see the future as hard.

1332
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 2: They see the housing as non existent, they see the

1333
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 2: opportunities as less, and I think.

1334
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 3: That we.

1335
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:34,600
Speaker 2: Would be right to note this as opposed to diminishing it.

1336
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 2: We do not win an argument, and we win ourselves

1337
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 2: no favors if we say grow up now. Some twenty

1338
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 2: four year old working at an advertising firm in Los

1339
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,679
Speaker 2: Angeles says, after five.

1340
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:53,799
Speaker 3: Of them, I'm not by my laptop.

1341
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 2: I'm not by it I don't provide an explanation for

1342
01:25:56,400 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 2: it either. That's an actual quote. Yeah, you're not getting hired, right,

1343
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 2: that's one thing. Oh, I don't work late. Well, sometimes

1344
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 2: the job requires working late. Well, I don't work late. Well,

1345
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 2: then you're not the guy for the job. That is different,

1346
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 2: because that is anecdotal to a specific scenario. Then a

1347
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 2: recognition of if house builders only buy houses that sell

1348
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:22,600
Speaker 2: for five hundred and eighty thousand dollars, how does somebody

1349
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 2: with their first job out of college afford that house?

1350
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 3: Where do they live?

1351
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 2: How does the first time home buyer starting a family live. Well,

1352
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 2: that does involve moving, which got a very weird response

1353
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 2: from the political right. I think it was Shapiro who

1354
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 2: brought that up, and some others on the woke right

1355
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 2: ight like Youacy, This is the problem. You're not catering

1356
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 2: enough or understanding enough what. I should now have some

1357
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 2: kind of housing credit so people can live in the

1358
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 2: middle of Manhattan.

1359
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 3: No, sometimes you can't afford to live in Manhattan.

1360
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 2: I had this own conversation with my kid the other day.

1361
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 3: Is New York cool?

1362
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 13: No?

1363
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 2: New York was cool. You know, it's still got a

1364
01:26:57,960 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 2: little bit of that romance thing going.

1365
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 3: It is the place that you should really be looking at.

1366
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 2: It's too expensive, it's too dangerous, it doesn't provide the value.

1367
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 3: What don't be in love with.

1368
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:11,959
Speaker 2: A romanticized photo or romanticized image. But if it's too expensive,

1369
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 2: you can't afford to live there. They don't owe you

1370
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 2: anything to reduce the cost. Some places you can't afford

1371
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 2: to live you can't afford right off the bat. The

1372
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 2: house with five bedrooms and cost seven hundred and eighty

1373
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 2: two thousand dollars. You might need a condo at first.

1374
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 2: And no, it doesn't need to have granite countertops. Get

1375
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 2: over yourself. Those things aren't necessary. But that's a different

1376
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 2: conversation than if I want to live and pick the

1377
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 2: suburb in the Midwest and every house is three four

1378
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 2: or five hundred thousand dollars.

1379
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 3: How am I supposed to do this?

1380
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 2: If I can afford one hundred and sixty two thousand dollars,

1381
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 2: what is supposed to happen at that moment? And doesn't

1382
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 2: a city, a municipality, a town, a state want.

1383
01:27:58,600 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 3: To have those people in?

1384
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 2: So you could be building people up and bringing in

1385
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 2: a younger workforce that grows and then becomes capable of

1386
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 2: affording these larger scale things. And isn't that a good

1387
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:13,799
Speaker 2: kind of movement and value system? So there the argument

1388
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 2: about some nonsensor gen Z. We can find that in

1389
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 2: every generation the larger scale conversation about call it the

1390
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 2: buzzword of affordability, but rather what is the reality that.

1391
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 3: They're looking at or what is the.

1392
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:35,560
Speaker 2: Vision the landscape that they have been told that exists

1393
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 2: and anecdotally have seen. How do we recognize that as

1394
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 2: well and then help them through it? Do we have

1395
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 2: a responsibility to I would argue, yes, absolutely we do.

1396
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:50,759
Speaker 3: I think it's absolutely in our best interest.

1397
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 2: So I have seen gen Z be smarter, I've seen

1398
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 2: gen Z be more willing to work. I've seen gen

1399
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 2: Z be more focused to more and more capable, certainly

1400
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 2: the millennials. That's been my anecdotal experience. But I can

1401
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 2: point to you Gen xers who are total schmucks. I

1402
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 2: mean Baby Boomers, who are just complete losers. You talk

1403
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:17,839
Speaker 2: about a nonsense bit of generation. Good God, baby boomers

1404
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 2: are insulting.

1405
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 3: I know, I know Baby boomers never like hearing that.

1406
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 3: But man, there's a lot of issues.

1407
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 2: We should take a look at gen Z and say,

1408
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 2: what is it that they're dealing with, and how do

1409
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 2: we help create something better? What is it that we

1410
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 2: could be engaging if not on policy that would still

1411
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:41,560
Speaker 2: stick with capitalism and not any level of government intervention interference,

1412
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 2: but rather with something attitudinal of yes it's tougher, and

1413
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 2: yes you can do this, Yes you can fight through it.

1414
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 2: You gotta think smarter, you gotta think better. And let's

1415
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 2: start with don't major in gender studies because you're guaranteed

1416
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 2: not to get a job and no one owes you anything.

1417
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 2: If you major in gender studies, you get the nothingness

1418
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 2: that you most rightly deserve. If you majored in puppetry,

1419
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 2: there are no jobs for you.

1420
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 3: But if you became a mechanic.

1421
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 2: I know that the CEO of Ford is looking for

1422
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 2: five thousand of those paying one hundred and twenty thousand

1423
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 2: dollars a year. So just like you might have to

1424
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 2: move to find a place to live, you might have

1425
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 2: to think of a different career. And anybody going into

1426
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:33,560
Speaker 2: gender studies is wrong. And any parent who's okay with

1427
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 2: it hates their kid who said that.

1428
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 3: That isn't the part of the conversation.

1429
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz today. So

1430
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 2: I believe the term used by the kids on the

1431
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 2: streets and whatnot is based based the idea that a

1432
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 2: thought or response or reaction is totally grounded in reality

1433
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 2: and an honesty based Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good

1434
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:05,719
Speaker 2: to be with you. At least that's how I've always

1435
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 2: taken the terminology. When something is based, it's like you

1436
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 2: know what here it is laying it out clearly, everybody

1437
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 2: gets it.

1438
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:13,799
Speaker 3: These are the facts.

1439
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,720
Speaker 2: This is the truth, and say, yeah, that's exactly what

1440
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 2: it is. Boys are not girls and girls are not boys,

1441
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:23,679
Speaker 2: based right, just the facts. Everything else is some clapshop nonsense.

1442
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 2: Well that's the response being given to Sophie Cunningham. Sophie

1443
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 2: Cunningham plays in the WNBA. She plays on the Indiana

1444
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 2: Fever and she plays with Caitlyn Clark, and Cunningham was

1445
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 2: the one who when she joined the team, these players

1446
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 2: who would say, hey, my job is to beat the livings,

1447
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 2: not out of Caitlin Clark, because we don't like the

1448
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 2: fact that the league is getting attention and money now.

1449
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 2: We don't like the fact that because Caitlyn Clark showed up,

1450
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:52,640
Speaker 2: we went from flying commercial to flying private. No, no, no,

1451
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 2: we don't like that at all. We don't like the

1452
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 2: fact that WNBA players are now getting a really sponsorship deals,

1453
01:31:59,360 --> 01:31:59,959
Speaker 2: an opportunity.

1454
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, how no.

1455
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 2: That's terrible and awful and my gosh, selling out wherever

1456
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 2: it is we're playing and people are actually watching the game.

1457
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 3: This is all just awful. We wanted this to.

1458
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 2: Be the league of either black women or black lesbian women.

1459
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:19,759
Speaker 3: And that's it. I mean, that's what got said.

1460
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 2: The anger, the vitriol, the hatred, and people who are

1461
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 2: in the WNBA or father WNBA could yell me all

1462
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 2: they want.

1463
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 3: Still true, and weirdly, you guys may not know this

1464
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:32,719
Speaker 3: if you're.

1465
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 2: Not in where I live in Indianapolis, or of course

1466
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 2: the INDI nafever are. I've been outrageously supportive of the team,

1467
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:41,640
Speaker 2: and there were times in the earlier part of my

1468
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 2: career here they were going to the playoffs and we

1469
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:46,599
Speaker 2: did events outside the station for them.

1470
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:49,800
Speaker 3: I mean, you want what's good for your city. That's

1471
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 3: always been my take.

1472
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 2: And if they're going to be playing in the playoffs,

1473
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 2: why not make a thing of it.

1474
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 3: Some rallying cry, Okay, this is cool. I may not

1475
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 3: have watched the game, but if there's going to be

1476
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 3: playoff games, it's be a fun night. Let's go watch it.

1477
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:05,639
Speaker 3: Be supportive. It makes perfect sense to me. What doesn't make.

1478
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 2: Perfect sense are the people who say, well, we should

1479
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 2: get paid as much as the men. No, you shouldn't.

1480
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 2: It's not as good of a product. And you know it, well,

1481
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 2: what women's basketball is just as physical as men's basketball,

1482
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 2: just as good.

1483
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:22,480
Speaker 3: No it's not. It's a different game altogether.

1484
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:26,440
Speaker 2: But all this goes back into the idea that somehow

1485
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,759
Speaker 2: there are women out there who think that a pro

1486
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:33,599
Speaker 2: women's team could be a pro men's team. We're talking

1487
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 2: about the same level of pro within the leagues. The

1488
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 2: answer is one time out of a billion. And I

1489
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 2: say that because you know, things happen, but on the main,

1490
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 2: on the average, the answers, no, they couldn't. Women's soccer

1491
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 2: team couldnot meant it beat a men's soccer team if

1492
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 2: we're talking about quote unquote equal level, the best of

1493
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 2: this division women's versus the best of this division's men's.

1494
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 2: Same thing is true with baseball, softball, same thing is

1495
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 2: true with basketball, same thing is tr truth football, same thing.

1496
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 3: Is true with track.

1497
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 2: A myriad of subjects on those type of things, the

1498
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:11,839
Speaker 2: answer is no, don't be ridiculous. It's not anger that's based,

1499
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 2: which brings us to Sophie Cunningham. Sophie Cunningham was talking

1500
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:22,879
Speaker 2: about a guy by the name of Michael Porter Junior.

1501
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,719
Speaker 3: Now I do not know who.

1502
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 2: Michael Porter Junior is because when it comes to sports.

1503
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 2: While I pay more attention than ever before, I do

1504
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:36,440
Speaker 2: not get into all of the fake drama that sports

1505
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 2: needs to produce these days in order to fill the

1506
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 2: commntions of all the places that I do things about sports.

1507
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 2: Michael Porter Junior plays for the Brooklyn Nets, That's who

1508
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 2: he is.

1509
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 3: He was on.

1510
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 2: A podcast and he said that a team of elite

1511
01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:01,720
Speaker 2: eighth grade boys could beat the WNBA All Stars.

1512
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 14: I mean as respectfully as possible, but ninth grade Lonzo

1513
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:12,599
Speaker 14: ball in the WNBA, it's quite crazy. In ninth grade,

1514
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 14: I'm over six feet and I'm dunking like I'm coming

1515
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:18,559
Speaker 14: through the like no girl in the WNBA is doing that.

1516
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 3: I'm going back door throw it up like I'm looking

1517
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 3: like Jordan out there.

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Speaker 15: I'm gonna go probably eighty grade because look, but I

1519
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:29,799
Speaker 15: have real experience doing this because I played my sisters

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01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 15: went to University of Missouri, and I would tell a

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01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 15: young dude and they had me playing like on the

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Speaker 15: scout team, and they had a few WNBA players on

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Speaker 15: the team, like Sophie Cunningham and a couple others, and

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Speaker 15: I think I was, like in the seventh or eighth grade,

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Speaker 15: going dumb.

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Speaker 2: Sophie Cunningham was asked about this these comments there from

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Speaker 2: Michael Porter, and she said, I mean, it's probably true

1528
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 2: because it is.

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01:35:55,800 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 3: It's a fact, no anger or anything else. It is

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01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 3: a fact.

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Speaker 2: She goes on to say, I think if you're a

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Speaker 2: professional athlete, if you're in that elite level group, yeah,

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01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 2: you should be able to beat the girls. I'm not

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01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:11,640
Speaker 2: surprised by that. I don't get why it's continuing to

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01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 2: get brought up. If women are saying, yeah, he couldn't

1536
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 2: beat us, Yes he could any NBA star or player

1537
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:21,680
Speaker 2: that can beat a female in high school. The context

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01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 2: of it is fair, yes, accurate. Why is it continually

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01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 2: brought up. Well, if your whole world is predicated on

1540
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 2: some feminism nonsense. I didn't say, predicated on the idea

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01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 2: that you should be treated fairly, predicated on the idea

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01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 2: that you should be treated respectfully. But this pseudo intellectualism

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01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 2: of feminism that dictates that men are bad, men are

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01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 2: always bad, women are somehow superior, which is a lot

1545
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 2: of what feminism tries to inculcate. Well, that's ridiculous because

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01:36:54,960 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 2: it creates a false reality. And somehow it is by

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01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:03,960
Speaker 2: the feminist point of view of scene to say that

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Speaker 2: a man.

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01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 3: Or a men's team would be a women's team no

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01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:07,600
Speaker 3: matter what.

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01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 2: There are women who have walked out of events when

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01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,640
Speaker 2: there'll be someone speaking a woman in the case that

1553
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:17,759
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of, men are naturally taller and stronger than women,

1554
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:19,720
Speaker 2: and they're like, Nope, we're not gonna put up with this,

1555
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:22,800
Speaker 2: We're going to walk out. We won't listen to reality.

1556
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 2: That is what based.

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01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 3: I appreciate Sophie Cunningham and her comments here.

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01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:34,799
Speaker 2: I appreciate her saying, yeah, why are we still talking

1559
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 2: about this? Why are we still talking about this? Why

1560
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:41,600
Speaker 2: aren't we more talking about what the WNBA has to

1561
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 2: do to get into more homes and to bring in

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01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 2: more dollars, to be more exciting, And maybe it should

1563
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 2: involve not hating Caitlin Clark, not hating Sophie Cunningham, raise

1564
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 2: the game and shut off the old skin. I didn't

1565
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 2: say forget where you came from, but this idea that

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01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:04,600
Speaker 2: you have to be this cloistered league as opposed to

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01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 2: this exciting league, the idea that you have to do

1568
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 2: it the way you always did it, as opposed to

1569
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 2: something that can actually be more wait for the word inclusive,

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01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 2: and bring more players into the fold, more fans into

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01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 2: the fold, more opportunity for everybody into the fold.

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Speaker 3: That's what you should want. Now.

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01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:29,679
Speaker 2: As for Marjorie Taylor Green and the resignation heard around

1574
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 2: the world, is I've discussed there are reasons for this resignation.

1575
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 2: If you didn't know the story, Marjorie Taylor Green resigned

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01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 2: over the weekend from the House of representatives. I want

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01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:48,640
Speaker 2: to make sure I'm clear. She didn't resign. She announced

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01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 2: her resignation, and her resignation is coming on January fifth,

1579
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 2: And you say to me, hey, that's weird. Why in

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01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 2: the world is it January five fifth? Because January fifth

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01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 2: would be two days after January third, and January third

1582
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 2: is when the House has sworn into office, and that

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01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 2: would make it five years that she has been in office.

1584
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:14,000
Speaker 2: And I always thought it was four years, and some

1585
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 2: people said it was five years. Five years serving in Congress.

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01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:21,440
Speaker 2: That's when you get a full lifetime pension.

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01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:25,240
Speaker 3: TUTA.

1588
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:27,840
Speaker 2: So maybe it was always the plan, maybe it wasn't.

1589
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent sure what the story here is.

1590
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 3: But the.

1591
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 2: Anger and vitriol here of Marjorie Taylor Green and her

1592
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 2: response to.

1593
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 3: Why it is, or her announcement as to why she

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01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 3: is retiring.

1595
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 2: Which was this nine minute plus kind of inarticulable screed.

1596
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 3: It really was. It was.

1597
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 2: Like, I'm not gonna sit here and be a battered

1598
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 2: That was a batter housewife, right, and she's going after Trump.

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01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 6: Standing up for American women who were raped at fourteen

1600
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 6: years old, trafficked and used by rich, powerful men, should

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01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:16,879
Speaker 6: not result in me being called a trader and threatened

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01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 6: by the President of the United States, whom I fought for.

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01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 6: I have too much self respect and dignity. I love

1604
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 6: my family way too much, and I do not want

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01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 6: my sweet district to have to endure a hurtful and

1606
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:33,360
Speaker 6: hateful primary against me by the president that we all

1607
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 6: fought for only to fight and win my election, while

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01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 6: Republicans will likely lose the midterms and in turn be

1609
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:45,640
Speaker 6: expected to defend the president against impeachment after he hatefully

1610
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 6: dumped tens of millions of dollars against me and tried

1611
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:49,760
Speaker 6: to destroy me.

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01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:56,720
Speaker 2: Admittedly, that's a that's a pretty compelling argument. Why in

1613
01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 2: the world should I keep running? And then I'm going

1614
01:40:58,479 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 2: to be told to be dutiful?

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01:40:59,560 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 5: Right?

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01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 2: The battered Housewife is how she brought it up in

1617
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 2: being supportive of him.

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01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:08,200
Speaker 3: When Trump was asked about Marjorie Taylor Green, a willing

1619
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 3: Are you willing to forget commerce for my favorite Greens?

1620
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 3: Both forgetful us? No, we just I just disagreed with

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01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 3: her philosopher. She started backing perhaps the worst Republican congresson

1622
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:27,760
Speaker 3: in our history. You know, stupid person became bastly, and

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01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 3: I think, go your own way.

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01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 9: And once I left her, she resigned because she would

1625
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 9: have he would never have divided the primary.

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01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:37,639
Speaker 3: But I think she's a nice person.

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01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 2: She's hanging out with the stupid guy, Thomas Massey. She

1628
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 2: couldn't win without me, But I think she's a nice person.

1629
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 2: He never stops being him for a second. Let's talk

1630
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:56,679
Speaker 2: about what is based. It's not that Marjorie Taylor Green

1631
01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 2: is wrong about what she said about what's going to

1632
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:03,519
Speaker 2: be expected of her. And of course, if Democrats win

1633
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 2: the midterms to which she is seating that point, which

1634
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 2: I think is pretty ugly. If the House of Representatives

1635
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 2: is sworn in on January third, Donald Trump will be

1636
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 2: impeached on January third.

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01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:19,599
Speaker 3: There is no debate here. We don't have to question

1638
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:23,520
Speaker 3: that that's coming. What we have to question.

1639
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:28,799
Speaker 2: Is why did you think that you and President Trump

1640
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 2: were going to have a perfect relationship all throughout? If

1641
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 2: you disagreed with him, you have to understand the guy,

1642
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 2: that's all. You have to understand the style and the methodology.

1643
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:48,479
Speaker 2: You have to understand the person. Trump's entire style is

1644
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 2: we're friends while we're friends, and we're enemies while we're

1645
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 2: enemies and then we could be friends again. That whole

1646
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 2: meeting with zar on Mom Donnie is so freaking ridiculous.

1647
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,120
Speaker 3: And for the record, does anybody think.

1648
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 2: Said Trump and Mom Donnie or somehow going to be

1649
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 2: friends because they had a little bit of a laugh

1650
01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 2: in the oval. Stop it, Stop kidding yourself, Stop everything.

1651
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that meeting was far more upsetting to the

1652
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:15,960
Speaker 2: political left than it ever was to the political right,

1653
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 2: because they were like, how dare you humanize Donald Trump?

1654
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:21,160
Speaker 2: Why didn't you scream at him? Oh, you should have

1655
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:21,559
Speaker 2: just hit.

1656
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 3: Him right there.

1657
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 2: I know somebody who was asked to be on stage

1658
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,679
Speaker 2: at an event Trump was at and did a quick

1659
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:32,360
Speaker 2: speak at the event. I'm not gonna name names, and

1660
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 2: then Trump was there to give the guy a hug,

1661
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 2: and people.

1662
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:36,639
Speaker 3: Were like, you should have punched him in the face.

1663
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:37,639
Speaker 3: You should have.

1664
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:42,160
Speaker 2: Done What what kind of crazy person would think this.

1665
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:44,599
Speaker 3: There's the President of the United States wanting to give

1666
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 3: you a hug.

1667
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:46,840
Speaker 2: You give him a hug. Now, maybe you could just

1668
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:48,920
Speaker 2: put your hand out and shake his hand. If Barack

1669
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:51,599
Speaker 2: Obama wants to give me a hug, God, shake his hand.

1670
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:55,599
Speaker 2: Oh I don't agree with him about anything. Punch him

1671
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:59,520
Speaker 2: in the face is the craziest thing in the world.

1672
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,320
Speaker 2: But I think that's what the left really expected of

1673
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 2: Mom Donnie, and I think he's going to suffer a

1674
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:06,600
Speaker 2: little bit for it. But no one thinks they're going

1675
01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:10,720
Speaker 2: to be buddies. Marjorie Taylor Green didn't understand that if

1676
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 2: she might disagree with Donald Trump, that he's going to.

1677
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 3: Lash out. What do we what are we new to

1678
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:18,519
Speaker 3: this game?

1679
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 2: I think that listening to Marjorie Taylor Green complain in

1680
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 2: this nine plus minute video was just that one or

1681
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:30,000
Speaker 2: two moments of Okay, that's interesting, but mostly a bunch

1682
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 2: of moments of I did this to myself because she did.

1683
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 2: I don't mind her walking away. I don't mind her resigning.

1684
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 2: Do you think I'm bothered by losing Jewish space laser girl?

1685
01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 2: As I said about her from the beginning, she ain't

1686
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:51,680
Speaker 2: on my side. I might get some boats out of her,

1687
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 2: I like, but that's it.

1688
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:57,920
Speaker 3: That's it. Does she have one or two points? Absolutely?

1689
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 3: She has one or two points? Am I going to

1690
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 3: miss or no? Should we elect better? Yes?

1691
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 2: And should we elect people who are more interested in

1692
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:12,759
Speaker 2: not just party, but in country and in a value system?

1693
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:17,680
Speaker 2: Than engaging in the level of idology of people. Absolutely,

1694
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz.

1695
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 3: Today. We had a very good day today.

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Speaker 4: I think we made a tremendous amount of progress, even

1697
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 4: from the last time I spoke to you, and I

1698
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 4: apologize and for keeping you waiting with those more work

1699
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 4: to be done. We began almost three weeks ago with

1700
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 4: a foundational document that we socialized and ran by both

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01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:37,080
Speaker 4: sides and with input from both sides. And one of

1702
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 4: the things that happens when you've been involved in this

1703
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 4: now for ten months is you get a pretty good

1704
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:43,800
Speaker 4: sense of what the priorities and the red lines and

1705
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 4: the important issues are for both sides, and so that

1706
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 4: allowed us to create a foundational document, which has been

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01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 4: an ongoing working document. In fact, over the last ninety

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01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 4: six hours or more, there's been extensive engagement with the

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01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:59,000
Speaker 4: Ukrainian side, including our Secretary of the Army and others

1710
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 4: being on the ground and Kiev meeting with relevant stakeholders

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Speaker 4: across the Ukrainian political spectrum in the legislative branch and

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01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:09,759
Speaker 4: the executive branch and the military and others.

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Speaker 3: Does that mean you're going.

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01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 2: To accept get them to accept the idea of giving

1715
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 2: up way more land that the Russians have control of.

1716
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:19,799
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the question, Secretary Rubio. Are they going

1717
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 2: to give up even more? And what's the real peace guarantee?

1718
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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony kats today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: That's Secretary of Saint Mark Rubia, this peace deal with

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Speaker 2: the Russians in Ukraine, these negotiations that have been going

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Speaker 2: on in Geneva. I think the plan is to make

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Speaker 2: some kind of announcement Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: That's been the word on the street.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what makes anybody think the Russians are going

1725
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Speaker 2: to live up to the word. Vladimir Putin living up

1726
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:52,559
Speaker 2: to his word. Come on, come on, let's not be

1727
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:53,759
Speaker 2: silly people.

1728
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 3: That's just me. That's not helpful at all. We will

1729
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Speaker 3: see what we will see.

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Speaker 2: Find everything at Tony Katz dot com.

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Speaker 3: I'll catch you tomorrow. Everyone, take care,